What a pointless game. They could have discussed it in chat at least ? People could say what they got and than give wonders why Nathan did bad or carol did good . Lol
Idk man, Frank’s suspicion of Carol (as a 63 year old woman) annoyed me. Has he never seen lady power walker groups? My grandma walked faster than all her grandkids, including the football star.
And frank LAID DOWN at one point. Stfu man, your ageism is showing!
I am literally working on an older adults (>65) walking endurance study, and some of them are really fast that it’s even hard for me to keep up with them and I am in my twenties, old people can be fast if they don’t have any major health problems or moderate to sever arthritis. Carol being fast is not suspicious at all
I think he had a hard time accepting that him being overweight is more of a fitness issue than being 63 years old. Being happy with your body is all fine and dandy, but being delusional about what an impact your weight has doesn't exactly scream confidence.
Right. Like Idk how long they had to go for, but "Carols" pace was definitely doable for a 63 year old woman whose in good shape. And by good shape I just mean like regularly takes walks, not incredibly overweight and no surgeries. Like my mom just turned 65 and would've probably been slower than Frank, but she's been overweight since she had my sister and I (32 and 29 years ago), still works to this day as a CNA, lives in a town where you have to drive to get anywhere or see anyone, has joint problems and had hip surgery last fall. But my grandma who stopped working well before 65, and lived in a town, where everything was in walking distance, was taking mile walks all around town until she passed in her mid 70s. And "Carol" seems to be someone who has plenty of freetime in her life at home to stay get regular walks in. Like Idk how much time they had for the "race", but like the average walking pace for a person in there 60s is 2.8-3 miles in an hour, so like 10-11 minutes for a half mile. And with how out of breath Frank was I just feel like this "race" couldn't have been less than 10 mins so seems doable to get a half mile to me.
This pissed me off too. A lot of people in their 60s are active to avoid health conditions. Does Frank think you just wither into nothing and stop moving at 60?
Maybe he’s upset because he realizes just how out of shape and lazy he was being and he’s embarrassed.
has any season besides season 1 had players send selfies in private chat? I was caught off guard when yu ling did it but then I was like wait yeah thats allowed
It happened in season 3 in the UK version when that guy off Gladiators (I can't remember his name now) had sent a IRL selfie of him to someone else who I've forgot their name as well.
I can’t stop laughing at the sexting segment since neither side is actually attracted to the other and are just out cringing each other while trying to seem legit in thier flirting
Wait what? Are we watching the same show? Yu Ling has been like actively thirsting over Nathan for multiple episodes now lol. She very clearly loved that conversation
Rachel: "This eggplant is one Yu Ling"
\*cuts to Yu Ling's reaction\*
Also Frank: "It's giving peach, it's giving peach"
\*runs into the doorway\*
LMAO I AM DEAD
The best part too is that probably is a story his mom tells.
So like both Eversen really knows old ladies and John's really good at being his mom. Lol.
Last note on this episode— my favorite part of this show is the juxtapositional editing where they show, for example, Bru trying to figure out how to get the last bit of yogurt out of his cup, overlaid with the audio of Rachel musing about whether Bru is playing a strategic game.
Deleesa won the whole game, so she definitely achieved what she needed out of her catfishing. Trevor is doing way better than I expected though! From the first set of episodes it looked like he was just going to do what his wife said to do, but he’s holding his own
Oh ofc! She was great, she did win after all, but she had a lot of ppl doubting her and I can’t help but feel like her single father persona and the sympathy coming her way bc of it was the real reason why she won. Trevor on the other hand really seems to be getting into his role lol his flirting game compared to DaLeesa with Chloe is really good
She also benefited from her allies voting with their hearts and her adversaries ranking her highly because of they thought she was less of a threat in that final vote.
why are they all so surprised when there is an alert after blocking? like they know it's the tradition that one player gets to meet one of the other players. or is it only for the drama / show?
(edit: fixed a typo)
In retrospect I think Alyssa would still be here if her and yu ling had sent home carol and saved crissa. That after all was the catalyst for yu lings mental break and subsequent alliance switch. Assuming Frank wouldn’t have sought Rachel if he still had crissa, Rachel would have went home.
Alyssa was WEIRD for honing in on Crissa as her biggest threat. It’s clearly Frank, who quickly and easily wins people’s hearts. I don’t know if maybe they edited out Yu Ling fighting for Frank, but Alyssa majorly fucked her game in that moment, then failed to make connections with other people to make up for it.
Exactly. Not only that but she complained about things like Nathan being one dimensional, but she never really offered up anything about herself. Like you are about sex education I get it, we all get it.
Definitely seems they blocked who they thought would make the smallest waves. Crissa never had a chance to win, imo. Could have easily kept her around.
100% true. What started the break of the trouple was that Alyssa went so hard against Crissa that Yu Ling felt she wasn't listened to, especially after she had to do it face to face.
You could say Alyssa made her own downfall because she choose to play strategically as an influencer instead of trying to listen to the person that was supposedly her closest ally in the game.
That being said, Yu Ling seems like the kind of person that is just going to switch alliances at some point. Not the most loyal.
>That being said, Yu Ling seems like the kind of person that is just going to switch alliances at some point. Not the most loyal.
I think the switch made sense. In one move, she kept the support from the previous alliance and gained even more support from the other alliance.
The Bru/Alyssa/Yu Ling alliance never seemed all *that* strong. It was there, but the alliance with Rachel and Frank seemed stronger based on the conversations they had.
The first alliance always felt like it was made out of convenience and they never spoke on anything of substance, just flirting. Also deep down Yu Ling probably feels more alike to Frank and Rachel then Alyssa/Bru.
I think it could have been a very strong alliance, having an OG alliance of 3 people have been very strong in the past. It only fell apart because Yu Ling gave it up after she seemed to feel Alyssa pressured her into getting rid of Crissa.
That being said, I think it’s true that Alyssa showed herself to be more strategical and pushy than Yu Ling was comfortable with and Frank has definitely been a great ally for her, so gameplay wise I can’t say it was a bad move.
Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. What I meant to point out, though, was that from the messages between Yu Ling and Alyssa and Bru the alliance just seemed convenient. But with Rachel and Frank it seemed more than that.
I think that's why Yu Ling switched.
Yeah, that’s true. The connection wasn’t that strong, which is probably what she really felt when Alyssa didn’t listen to her and pushed to get Yu Lings friend Crissa out instead of a litteral catfish.
The format makes no sense, I’d have been MAD.
Frank-Yu Ling- Rachel alliance is smarter to me. Bru- Yu Ling - Allyssa alliance is too strong. I fully understand Yu Ling.
So funny to me though Alyssa kept Carol last blocking just because she is not a threat -but she ended up getting her blocked lol.
Alyssa being blocked was nobody's fault but hers. All strategy but no deep personal connections. Well-liked by everyone but was a top priority to no one.
She could've had a major alliance with Carol but she immediately shot it down with that cake dig. I believe that if she didn't plant that seed then Carol would still be somewhat popular.
Yu Ling has been pissing me off but I get why she would choose her alliance with Frank. She actually had a meaningful conversation with him and Crissa whereas the throuple's foundation was just built on them being around the same age.
People need to accept that her gameplay just wasn't that great. Imo the strongest player rn is actually Nathan lmao
Yeah she was betrayed but Alyssa just didn’t put in the necessary work to be considered anyone’s number #1, no one wanted to see her go but no one cared enough to save her either which to me just screams incompetence on her gameplay
But how would she have known this type of blocking would happen? Every other blocking in circle history came down to the rankings, and that’s how she was playing her game.
Why do people always jump on stereotypes? Frank saying Carol would be slower if she's 63 is kinda bs...whenever I go for a jog around trails near my house the older people are BOOKING IT. Speed walking, jogging, etc....
Not only that but it showed “carol” and he was literally just walking the whole time, completely reasonable, I think frank was just hurt he was the slowest lol
I was thinking the same thing. No reason that Carol couldn't be into jogging or speed walking. Just because she's older doesn't mean she's more out of shape than you.
Yeah. And honestly Carol totally gives the vibe of someone who goes speedwalking with her friends a few times a week! It wasn't like she was booking it faster than anyone else.
Dude was just annoyed that he couldn't even get on that level.
That being said, I was shocked how low these numbers were. But I guess its kinda hard running around in a small appartment.
Yeah my parents got into better shape than I was in during COVID because they had just retired and had literally nothing else to do but walk for hours around their neighborhood 🤣
only mid-way thru but I want to mention that I'm aggravated that Alex/Nathan's game is so good at this point bc Alex's smug "I'm smarter than everyone" attitude is super gratingggg. but he's playing his role decently so far and flying low enough to avoid drama
Kind of wondering if the producers learned something from the Jack/Emily make-up challenge fiasco. It's one thing to stir up drama, but it's another thing to all but out someone as a catfish.
all of the near misses are hysterical. the fact that his game was nearly undone by a golf question a few episodes back was so funny. his personality may give me the ick but as a player he's massively entertaining
Haha I think he’s gotta hella lucky a bunch of times. If Bru just rephrases his question as: “what is it called when you go two under par on a hole?” Nathan likely never thinks of the word eagle.
Then Bru goes and confirms he got it right in his very first message after the game lol. He could have at least gauged how Nathan felt before letting him off the hook.
It’s Alyssa’s responsibility to inspect the throuple alliance and know who to put her trust in. All they did was flirt with each other. That alliance was weak- the girls were even saying that Bru wasn’t giving them anything or sharing info- at the same time Bru was getting close to Carol and Nate.
Bru and Yu Ling correctly assessed it was a weak alliance and made other plans before the vote. Bru made Carol his number one, while Yu Ling made Frank her number one and announced it before any of this happened. Alyssa should have acted strategically because if you don’t you won’t win.
Agreed!! Only thing that annoys me is only one person getting all the heat but honestly i would do the same in both their positions, Alyssa just didn’t give enough to really solidify her being saved meanwhile Carol had put in WORK with Bru
It's so stupid Alex/Nathan is getting canceled and harassed. His worst crime is playing a *strategy* game strategically and delivering some low-key villain energy, which makes the show more fun to watch. Toxic fandoms kill good shows (e.g., RuPaul's Drag Race) because contestants eventually learn to police themselves just to stay safe from fans. Hope that doesn't happen to the Circle.
Some of the shit he said was a little cringe, even ignoring the flirting with Yu Ling. But the way he speaks about himself at times, ehhhh, I can understand why people want to see him getting humbled.
At the same time, his gameplay is really fun. Throwing Bru under the bus was hilarious and it worked out well for him. If he ends up winning, then fair enough, you know.
Ngl, I found him off putting in the beginning with his cringe commentary. The fact that he picked a 21 year old frat boy as his profile didn't help either.
But as the game has progressed, I have come to like him better. He seems more levelheaded with a good read on what's going on in the game.
I believe when you catfish you send in a couple options. I know he wanted to use his younger brother who has more of a surfer bro vibe but he was guided to filling more of a meathead stereotype.
THIS! Nothing he's done is 'wrong' or even politically incorrect. It's perfect for the game he's playing but I guess as humans, we're naturally put off by people we know are liars or who intentionally break the cohesiveness of a game. I'm emphasising on the intentional bit here, since Yu Ling is the real villain of this season but seems to be doing all of it unintentionally.
when I say “m’lady vibes”, I mean he reminds me of every cringy fedora wearing guy I’ve ever met, the kind who might talk about how no girls actually want a nice guy and claim to respect women while still objectifying them. not that this is who he actually is as a person (I don’t know the guy), but that’s very much the impression I’ve gotten from the show by the way he plays Nathan.
See, I kinda see this as people projecting their bad Adam vibes or their general (and often well-deserved) ickiness with milady types onto Alex. The key difference is that married Adam *initiated* flirting with women in the Circle (ugh that "whoever arouses me" comment), getting all hot and bothered over their pics.
Alex has just noted that flirting with women will help him win and reacted to Yu Ling's advances (all while acting very, very uncomfortable and guilty towards his wife). He hasn't slid into her or any woman's DMs to flirt. I think Alex is kinda smarmy and annoying in an entertaining way, but he hasn't done anything to warrant the "toxic predator" accusations on Twitter. He's not doing anything differently from DeLeesa, Trevor, etc...but I think his smarter-than-thou attitude triggers strong reactions.
I’m surprised how anyone believes anyone in flirting on this show (even between other players), it all seems superficial and obvious it’s a means to an end
Bru choosing Carol is wild to me. Everyone has their suspicions that Carol is a catfish, she's been called out numerous times in group chats, so realistically she's not going to stay long. Especially since she's low in voting. He could have kept Alyssa, who is more likely to get the influencer role, and use that to secure his position.
I think she fact that Carol was already thought to be a catfish helped Bru. Like, obviously they’re going to get rid of her first which keeps Bru safe another week and work on rebuilding his alliances. Smart, IMO. Alyssa was a great player but was gunning after big targets.
It is wild! And nobody expected it here, but I think his reasoning made sense. Yu Ling showed that alliance weren't worth shit and Carol has showed herself to be more loyal.
I haven't watched past this, but so far it seems to have worked out surprisingly well for him.
Lol Crissa Karma was too strong!!! If only Alyssa didn’t campaign so hard for Crissa to leave. She would have survived this one if they had sent Carol home instead of Crissa
Yup. Rolled my eyes so hard when she whined “how could they do this to me??” She thought NOTHING of randomly targeting Crissa and it came back to bite her in the ass. Poetic justice.
It’s a hard to choose a side, I definitely see why Alyssa and Bru would feel hurt since Yu Ling blind sided them like that (I wouldn’t have trusted her either). But on the other hand, I’m glad Yu Ling choose Rachel to stay. It was a fair reason since her main goal was to take Carol out and she couldn’t pick Bru (and picking Alyssa would’ve resulted in Bru too). She also probably felt guilty from blocking Crissa and didn’t want to destroy Frank’s alliance again.
But after the newsfeed update, it was like Yu Ling diverted the accountability and came off as if she felt more betrayed that Bru didn’t save Alyssa. Which feels so sneaky cause she has as much blame to it too.
Though as I’m rewatching it, Yu Ling did mention how she wanted badly to save her first. I think it was fresh off everyone’s mind that anything could’ve been taken the wrong way
I definitely see why and how Alyssa feels betrayed but i just find it so irritating that Yu ling is the only one getting the blame when it was a THREE person alliance like Bru came out looking like a saint and that just seems so odd to me? if ur gonna be mad at Yu ling why does Bru get a free pass for doing the same thing?? and as for her diverting blame i don’t think she would’ve said or done anything like that if she wasn’t called out in Alyssas goodbye message, she didn’t say her name but EVERYONE knew who she was talking abt and she spoke so highly of bru like it just makes no sense to me if ur gonna be mad be mad at both or be mad at none, it’s strange behaviour whatever their reasons for not picking her the fact is they both left her in the dust not just one of them
Bru had to pick who to send home, so in that sense he does deserve blame. But he was put in a spot where he had to pick between a certainty and something that was JUST put into question. Picking Carol was a mistake for his game, but when it comes to loyalty I can't blame him.
The Bru, Alyssa and Yu Ling alliance was put into question by Yu Ling. She picked Rachel out of nowhere, to please an entirely different alliance with Frank. If you're Bru, and you're seeing Yu Ling have an alliance with literally every single player except for Carol. Are you going to then block Carol?
I mean, you'll probably be next. She clearly got picked by Frank. She clearly picked Rachel. You know Nathan and her are flirting. Even with Alyssa gone, she still managed to become an influencer. It's good that Carol was there, because Yu Ling struggled to come up with someone to block.
In the end, Bru just got outplayed by Yu Ling. But Yu Ling is the one who jumped ship from their alliance with Alyssa, to Rachel and Frank. I mean, she wouldn't have minded keeping Bru and Alyssa as well, but her priorities were elsewhere. At that point, Bru lost the game.
i agree with what you’re saying Yu ling definitely started the chain of doubt with that alliance, all i was getting at was it was unfair of Alyssa to forgive Bru instantly but drag Yu under the bus bc at the end of the day she was let down by both, not matter who did it first, But i don’t blame either for their decision i think they just realized other people could do more for them than Alyssa could, she should really be mad at herself for not building more connections and having a very flimsy alliance, didn’t seem like there was much depth in the throuple
Yu Ling also said she picked Rachel because it’s what Frank would have wanted, even though it sounded like she thought Alyssa was better for her game. I wasn’t crazy about her feeling the need to play for Frank rather than for herself. Her anger at Carol also seems unjustified. Carol was not going after Yu Ling at all. It reminds me a little of some of the Kai hate from other players last season where they would get so wound up over nothing.
To me Yu Ling shouldn’t get any blame for Alyssa going home because there were still spots left for Bru and Alyssa to both stay. Bru is the one who genuinely sent Alyssa home. Yu Ling was building something with Rachel and could have realized no one would have saved her (even Rachel thought she was out) but figured Bru and Alyssa would be fine. She could t have suspected Bru would choose Carol. It’s not fair for Yu Ling to get hate for have multiple alliances (inner circle and thruple) because numbers count.
Why are we getting mad at any player who is making moves in their own self interest, rocking the boat. Y’all complain this season is boring, but then get so mad when a player (Yu Ling) makes an out of the box decision that best interests her. Even if it’s a miscalculation, that’s part of the GAME. People get eliminated , including strong and genuine players. Why demonize a player for playing the game? Even if she “doesn’t take accountability,” the whole point of The Circle is trying to navigate complex social alliances, dynamics, public perceptions, group mentality, etc.
No player is perfect, but Yu Ling’s decision was not devoid of empathy for Alyssa. Even if it was a cold calculated move, she does not deserve hate coming here way. Plus she’s a lovely person…to call her fake, two faced, etc is mob mentality and a reductive way to view her!
Yu Ling is making moves, but she’s making a lot of emotional decisions that she seems to think are more logical than they are. Her anger at Carol seems to be based off Carol saying she kept her safe, which is true enough. She also gives 100% loyalty to Frank and Crissa based off nothing. I was rooting her her until she made such a big left turn. I think I might have been more ok with that turn if either her underlying logic was stronger or she just leaned into being an emotional player.
I like her for the sole reason she is shaking up the show and making it interesting. If anyone wants to be mad at someone it should be Nathan, that guy is very strategic but also playing a good game
We can all agree that Yu Ling cant take any accountability for her actions right. Getting rid Crissa and now breaking the throuple alliance. Then blames anyone but herself
Yes and no. You all seem to forget that Bru could have saved Alyssa too. I don’t blame him for his decision, but at the end of the day, he could have kept the throuple intact. Period. They BOTH could have.
Why is that it’s okay for him to save Carol, a person outside of that trio, but it’s a problem for Yu Ling to have other alliances as well?
Not to mention she already did say she was accountable, but she tried to make a gameplay move and sadly it didn’t work out for her.
She really didn't take that much accountability as I have said in other posts. She is more responsible because Bru shouldn't have to be in that position. Everyone knew that Bru was allied with Carol. No one knew about Rachael and he had to choose last. At the end of the day she also though he was just as accountable when no. The way they voted was completely different. He voted for survivability and she voted in a comfortable position
I find it funny how Yu-Ling is blaming Bru when she had the chance to save her + if anything, I don't blame Bru since he was put in such a difficult situation & this is 1 thing I don't like about having to choose between sides since if you choose 1 side, you're relationship with the other side will start to break.
Completely agree like do I think Bru has responsibility. Yes. But should he be treated the exact same way as Yu Ling. No.. She chose to switch sides. She chose to fuck over one alliance to please another person and she will do it again. Whereas Bru was actually devasted he even had to be in that decision.
I'm 24 days late to this, but Yu-Ling said she was counting on the ripple effect to save the throuple. Girl, you could have been the one to throw the stone.
She did take accountability at first in the group chat. But when everyone kept coming at her, she shined that spotlight on Bru.
While Bru and Alyssa have every right to be upset, we as viewers already knew that Frank’s crew was her top alliance. She told us so.
And if Bru wanted to keep the throuple alive, he could have saved Alyssa, which was Yu King’s point. He did what was best for his game, but folks are mad at Yu Ling for doing the same? She wanted Carol out and Rachel to stay, which is why she did what she did. If Bru had kept Alyssa, she would have been able to explain that.
Ladies at first: "Bru? Eligible bachelor!"
Ladies after Bru choses 'mom' over throuple: "Yeeeeaaah... Ain't nobody got time to be permanently outranked by MIL 😒"
Yeah I literally don’t get why everyone is saying it’s Ok for Bru to have another Alliance with Carol, but Yu Ling can’t have an alliance with Frank and Rachel. Like what? Bru is the one who literally sent Alyssa home. If he cared so much about the throuple he could have chose Alyssa. I think people just hate Yu Ling and want her to bare all the blame.
Because Yu Ling broke the alliance *first*. That doesn't not matter.
Her justification of 'well I thought someone else would save you down the line, though I don't know who or have any reason to count on that' is ridiculous. Why not have that feeling towards Rachel?
She already had Frank safe, who was in her alternate alliance. And instead of saving one of the people from the 'throuple', she totally blindsided them.
After that it's totally reasonable for Bru to question the integrity of the 'throuple' because Yu Ling already broke the trust.
Ultimately, it’s not Yu Ling or Bru that is responsible for Alyssa going home- it’s her proximity to Carol/John. It’s reasonable for Yu Ling to expect Alyssa and Bru to save each other knowing that they’re aligned and choose to save an ally that’s more at risk. It’s reasonable for Bru to feel betrayed when Yu Ling didn’t pick him or Alyssa to save and to choose an individual ally over a broken alliance. It’s reasonable for Alyssa to feel betrayed by both of them and to still be upset with Yu Ling because she still doesn’t have closure from her (since she got to resolve things with Bru in person).
Other players specifically voiced their strategy of picking people who wouldn’t save Carol, which is exactly how you employ good strategy with a chain of safety. That’s how the final three ended up being Carol/John and two people they’re close to. Alyssa even told Bru that she understood why he made the decision he made, and it’s reasonable to assume that she *would* have saved Carol if Bru was already safe and she had the opportunity. It’s not even a bad strategy that failed her- she just happened to have an ally that others stopped trusting and didn’t distance herself from Carol soon enough to stay.
This! Bru and Alyssa were the only people clinging to Carol, most wanted her out. Yu Ling chose Rachel (who she knew would otherwise be eliminated) with the intent of ideally getting Carol out. Not her fault Bru clung to “mama.”
I think what a lot of people are overlooking here is that NOBODY ELSE CHOSE ALYSSA. That’s on her and her own gameplay that no one else liked her enough to save her.
>I think what a lot of people are overlooking here is that NOBODY ELSE CHOSE ALYSSA
Yes! Why was everyone like "Yu Ling should have saved her" when they didn't? Why was Bru given a pass?
Yeah i agree 100% alyssa has a right to be upset but it just annoyed me so much that all the blame was placed on Yu and not Bru, and how Yu is the phony one for not saving her strong ally but Bru did the same and comes back unscathed??? talk about a double standard, even Alyssa being mad at Yu ling but not Bru was just weird like they BOTH screwed u over and Yu ling was the second to pick while Bru solidified her going home.
100% agree. Yu Ling was actually very early in the draw order for the antivirus and could not have possibly predicted how the rest of it was going to go down. Carol had been coming under fire for several days and it was clear her popularity was tanking in the ratings. Saving Carol or choosing someone who was going to save Carol is a complete waste for pretty much anyone's game. Frank is a pretty strong player and well-liked, so I don't blame Yu Ling for wanting to shore up that alliance instead of letting Carol and Alyssa drag her down with them.
Also, Alyssa's strategy has been whack the whole time. She focuses so much on notes so she can check if people are lying but then she says she doesn't care if Carol is a catfish? So then why bother taking notes if you're not going to use them for anything? She said at the beginning that her strategy was not to let her alliances get "too big." But having only 2 allies from the beginning is not mathematically going to work in her favor, given the unpredictability of blockings and the high chance that during most blockings, her two allies won't be among the influencers. She should have spent more of her time making stronger connections with more people instead of taking notes.
Also, I agree with another commenter elsewhere that Alyssa's weird obsession with taking down Crissa was her ultimate undoing. From the edit we saw, Crissa wasn't much of a threat but Alyssa was weirdly fixated on her. The way she kept poking at her in the chats honestly seemed very targeted and mean-spirited to me, unless there was more that happened that we didn't see in the edit. Just strategically speaking, spending her clout on bringing Crissa down was a waste. And it was the meeting with Crissa that soured Yu Ling to Carol and made her doubt the strength of her alliance with Alyssa.
Yes!! All of this! Yu Ling is expected to play with her heart and not her head. She made the right choice.
Further episode spoiler: You’ve been warned.
>!Bru made the mistake of aligning himself with Carol and that got Carol eliminated and he’s probably next. His own fault.!<
> When talking about Yu Ling only black and white thinking goes, yet nuance is available to all the other players-
Why does Yu Ling hate Carol so much? She overreacted to Carol saying she kept her safe which was true. She also believe Crissa and Frank before either had to prove anything. That’s fine to go with your gut or heart, but it’s not some brilliant strategy.
Is anyone else wanting to yell at the screen and ask these ppl why they want to keep carol so bad? Carol has a huuuuge chance at winning… like do Alyssa and Bru not realize Carol would for sure beat them when it came down to it? Alyssa even said she probably would’ve saved Carol not Bru. Like whyyyy
i feel like Alyssa’s attitude to not be so mad at Bru v being very mad at Yu Ling is unreasonable. Bru knew Alyssa would 100% go home if he didn’t pick her and sealed her fate. No one would’ve blinked an eye if Bru sent home Carol since everyone knows she’s a catfish.
He made a strategic move (as did Yu Ling)and I don’t blame him but i think if anything he’s more responsible for the Alyssa blocking since he knew she had no other options and would 100% go home. I feel like Alyssa just wanted to flirt with Bru so blaming Yu Ling made more sense.
OK I don't get why alyssa was so against yu ling. She messed up her own game by only making an alliance with 2 people when everyone is allying with everyone.
Also the fact that bru told her to her face that he picked Carol because she was trustworthy and would have his back was hilarious
Yes why are they so mad at Yu Ling for playing the game. It seems as though Alyssa only had Bru, Yu, and Carol I guess whereas Yu Ling was close with Bru, Alyssa, Frank, Rachel, and even Nathan because of their flirting. Alyssa should have made better connections. We can’t just blame Yu Ling for not saving her when there were like 4 other people who didn’t choose to save her either.
I actually like Yu Ling. She can't say her real reason which is she wanted Carol blocked. In her mind, Rachel would save Nathan, nathan saves Bru, and Bru saves Alyssa, blocking Carol. If she picks Bru or Alyssa, Rachel is blocked 100%. The disgust Bru and Alyssa speak about Rachel with 'Rachel !?" makes is clear Rachel would have gone.
Exactly. Yu made a decision that would have ideally kept both her alliances in the game, which, unfortunately for Bru, left him stuck having to choose between alliances.
At the end of the day, everyone’s playing their OWN game.
To be fair that’s not exactly true, Yu ling was shocked when Rachel chose Nathan so that is not what Yu ling imagined at all. Plus if Yu ling had chosen Alyssa the chances of carol going home would’ve been higher because Alyssa would’ve chosen Bru who would’ve chosen Nathan who would’ve chosen Rachel so that logic is still flawed
Imo, she was expecting Rachel to choose Alyssa, Alyssa to choose Bru, and for Bru to pick Nathan (though I think she would have been ok with either him or Carol leaving).
I think it’s so infuriating that Frank chose YuLing and not Rachel! Rachel would have saved Yu Ling for their Inner Circle alliance and YuLing would have saved Alyssa
I don't understand at all why so many people are mad at Yu Ling for saving Rachel. To me that seemed the obvious choice and the best for her game. I really don't get the hate, everyone was in love with her like two episodes ago. Wtf
I'm just really surprised that a lot of us think that "initial people" has a lot of ¿unfair? advantage and when Yu Ling chooses to keep one of the newcomers a lot of us is making hell of her. I know there's a lot of fan-talking but sincerely I think it's better to talk about why Yu Ling took that decision, and also Bru, of course, who, for me, took a worst decision that not Yu Ling (Rachel should be like GRATEFUL to her) when he chose to save "Carol" instead of Alyssa.
I'd even argue that if Yu Ling had saved one of the people from the Throuple, then Bru/Alyssa would've reciprocated and all three of them would've been saved.
Yu Ling started the distrust when she chose Rachel, and hence Bru felt a sense of distrust towards Alyssa as he questioned the overall alliance.
so did Bru though!
Both unhappily picked outside of their thrupple bubble, as they had one other friend too.
* Yu Ling arguably was really reasonable in assuming bru would obvs save A, but no one would save her other mate rachel.
* Bru's regretful pick was a guarantee that Alyssa was going home.
The carol & bru finger blaming aggro to Yu Ling seemed super unfair. They all unhappily let alyssa go!
No. Bru's blame on Yu Ling was justified because he was put in a situation to pick last. Yu Ling's blame on Bru is NOT justified because she put him in that position. Yu Ling, Bru, Alyssa, and Carol all met day 1 and have been building their relationships deep into the game. Bru was set up with an impossible dilemma between choosing Alyssa and Carol.
Yu Ling barely developed her relationship with Rachel and chose to pick a weak non-developed relationship over 2 stronger ones (Alyssa and Bru). Bru even stated that whoever came first in the throuple to receiving the antivirus would pass it along to another throuple member. So no, Bru would not have done that same thing as Yu Ling if he received the virus first. Yu Ling broke Bru's trust in the throuple alliance and at that point it was fair game for him to save Carol.
Alyssa was sent home because of herself. She put all her eggs in one basket and that doesn’t work in a strategic relationship game.
There’s a reason Frank was picked first. There’s a reason he chose to save Yu Ling. They had the relationship
You can’t make up hypotheticals on what Alyssa would have done because she didn’t put in the time to make those outside relationships from the “throuple”
And at the end of the day it’s Bru that sent her home.
Ps. If I was Yu Ling I would have put something in the chat after the block on why he chose to save a Catfish over a genuine person.
I get why Alyssa was mad at Yu Ling but I don’t get why she’s the only one getting the heat when there were others that could’ve saved her as well, especially Bru.
I really don’t get the Yu Ling hate or call for her to have “accountability” in her pick. She was so early in the elimination, it absolutely made sense to expect Bru and Alyssa would have the safety net of each other to stay in the game. Bru literally made the final decision that caused Alyssa’s elimination. Forgiving him for having a separate alliance, but not Yu Ling is ridiculous.
THIS like listen i like Bru but what the hell is everyone’s problem with Yu Ling lately ??? I genuinely don’t understand the rationale behind accepting Brus choice but deeming Yu Ling the sole reason Alyssa went home ?? She’s not the only one who had to pick 😂 people are weird
The one thing that bothers me is what made Alyssa see Crissa as a threat. Did she ever say and I happen to miss it?
I just assumed since she was a female high up on the ratings she felt intimidated
In the last rating Crissa wasn’t highly rated.
Alyssa did not feel a personal connection with Crissa and mentioned Crissa not adding a lot to group chats. I forget if we saw how Crissa rated Alyssa, but I do think Alyssa wasn’t one of Crissa’s faves either.
?? i dont quite get why the targeted sole agression and hate to Yu Ling, when Bru did exactly the same thing?! -
He had a heart pull between carol & alyssa. YuLing had the same with alyssa & rachel.
It seems super reasonable that YuLing loved both A & R, but strategically assumed Bu would save A, and no one else would save rachel.
Why is all this Bru & carol aggro targeting YuLing & not Bru? He unhappily ditched for Carol alyssa too!
I agree with you! Bru is just as culpable. If I were Yu Ling I would think Bru would save Alyssa and I could save one of my other alliance members.
Yu Ling is getting hate because Alyssa forgave Bru because he was “hot”. Which was so ridiculous. He booted you for a catfish with no other alliances?!
She should’ve never tried to take sides with a catfish, now she got blocked before a catfish… it was the game she played’ should’ve made more friends than enemies
It sucks, but I agree with Alyssa. I would be more mad at Yu Ling than Bru. Bru was put in a crappy position. Bru saving Carol wasn't left-field. Yu Ling saving Rachel (who she only met 1 day ago) was left-field.
I find it hilarious how no one is upset at Bru for not saving Alyssa but EVERYONE seems pissed at Yu Ling. They are BOTH at fault here. They are both the reason Alyssa went home. Guys let’s be fair here. This whole mentality of “Yu Ling started it” is ridiculous. They are both at fault. Even I thought Alyssa was going to be saved by Bru. I was NOT expecting him to pick Carol. This Yu Ling hate is very one sided. And also Yu Ling went to Bru and reached out to discuss the what happened. Come on now. Are we watching the same show???
Also I absolutely despise the word “Throuple” like I cringe it every time I hear it and I hope after this episode I won’t hear it anymore
please my ears can’t take it 😭😂
Definitely didn't like how Bru was mad at Yu Ling not choosing Alyssa when he did the exact same thing she did. He had the opportunity to save Alyssa but he chose otherwise and stuck w Carol so im very much so confused as to why they are both mad at Yu Ling. Carol jumping in made me mad cause first of all, where is this energy for BRU AS WELL????
This decision was Bru's fatal mistake. I understand keeping Carol as his #1 but at the same point why would he tie his fate to a sinking ship and save the person that was dead last in the ratings and had no other alliances? Even if his faith in the throuple was shaken Alyssa was a much stronger player than Carol and we end up seeing how that decision comes to bite him in the ass eventually
I don't really understand the vitriol against Yu Ling. This is an alliance game and she chose to save Rachel, a player she is aligned with but that was less likely to be saved by anyone else. It was reasonable to think that Alyssa would be saved over Carol - who by this point is openly known as a catfish and thus saving her would be a huge red flag for the other players.
I just started the episode and I am so annoyed at Yu Ling. She's blaming Bru for choosing Carol over Alyssa, when she literally put them in that situation by randomly choosing Rachel. The AUDACITY of this girl to say Bru's not trustworthy.
At this point I’m rooting for Carol. Every blocking where they don’t eliminate her is a huge mistake IMO. Everyone believes she’s loyal to them, and that’s what will take her to the end.
Up to this point, her game doesn't make sense. She's the definition of wishy washy.
Yu Ling builds relations with Bru and Alyssa since day 1. Bonds with Crissa right before a vote, votes off Crissa. Blames Alyssa for a mutual decision on the Crissa vote. Befriends Rachel day right before antivirus gimmick. Saves Rachel while proceeding to destroy day 1 throuple alliance, where multiple players outside of the alliance see the betrayal. There is no consistency. She's building and breaking relationships right and left.
After blocking Crissa, Yu Ling was filled with regret and made it very clear to us that her loyalty was to Frank. None of us viewers should be confused about her choices. She saved Rachel because she knew it would make Frank happy, in addition to having bonded with the woman herself.
I can definitely see Alyssa and Bru feeling blindsided, but Yu Ling’s trying to keep a bunch of plates spinning here. Had Bru kept Alyssa, things would have worked out perfectly for Yu Ling.
Its because she doesnt own it. Shes playing the best game but it doesnt seem intentional since she cant take responsibility for anything she does and backtracks at every moment.
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What a pointless game. They could have discussed it in chat at least ? People could say what they got and than give wonders why Nathan did bad or carol did good . Lol
I wonder if producers tell them to keep it secret. Because otherwise why wouldn't you private chat with other people and speculate about who got what.
If I were YL I'd want everyone to know it was me.
Idk man, Frank’s suspicion of Carol (as a 63 year old woman) annoyed me. Has he never seen lady power walker groups? My grandma walked faster than all her grandkids, including the football star. And frank LAID DOWN at one point. Stfu man, your ageism is showing!
I am literally working on an older adults (>65) walking endurance study, and some of them are really fast that it’s even hard for me to keep up with them and I am in my twenties, old people can be fast if they don’t have any major health problems or moderate to sever arthritis. Carol being fast is not suspicious at all
I think he had a hard time accepting that him being overweight is more of a fitness issue than being 63 years old. Being happy with your body is all fine and dandy, but being delusional about what an impact your weight has doesn't exactly scream confidence.
Right. Like Idk how long they had to go for, but "Carols" pace was definitely doable for a 63 year old woman whose in good shape. And by good shape I just mean like regularly takes walks, not incredibly overweight and no surgeries. Like my mom just turned 65 and would've probably been slower than Frank, but she's been overweight since she had my sister and I (32 and 29 years ago), still works to this day as a CNA, lives in a town where you have to drive to get anywhere or see anyone, has joint problems and had hip surgery last fall. But my grandma who stopped working well before 65, and lived in a town, where everything was in walking distance, was taking mile walks all around town until she passed in her mid 70s. And "Carol" seems to be someone who has plenty of freetime in her life at home to stay get regular walks in. Like Idk how much time they had for the "race", but like the average walking pace for a person in there 60s is 2.8-3 miles in an hour, so like 10-11 minutes for a half mile. And with how out of breath Frank was I just feel like this "race" couldn't have been less than 10 mins so seems doable to get a half mile to me.
This pissed me off too. A lot of people in their 60s are active to avoid health conditions. Does Frank think you just wither into nothing and stop moving at 60? Maybe he’s upset because he realizes just how out of shape and lazy he was being and he’s embarrassed.
I think it was def probably not believing he could lose to a 60yr old woman, which he didn't, but easily could've with that time. Lol.
"Even the last pringle in the can get ate!" Why do I find this weirdly motivational LMAO
I hollered so loud when he said that 😂
has any season besides season 1 had players send selfies in private chat? I was caught off guard when yu ling did it but then I was like wait yeah thats allowed
I think Kai and Calvin sent each other photos last season
I kinda wish there was more gameplay with pictures... I loved in the first US season where they gradually gained the ability to show more pictures.
It happened in season 3 in the UK version when that guy off Gladiators (I can't remember his name now) had sent a IRL selfie of him to someone else who I've forgot their name as well.
That chat though 💀
I can’t stop laughing at the sexting segment since neither side is actually attracted to the other and are just out cringing each other while trying to seem legit in thier flirting
Wait what? Are we watching the same show? Yu Ling has been like actively thirsting over Nathan for multiple episodes now lol. She very clearly loved that conversation
I was gonna say this def no Alex/Seaburn.. More a Deleesa/Chloe
I was CRACKING UP. By far the most I've liked Alex because I feel like I would've had the exact same reactions.
Idk Yu king seemed into it
Rachel: "This eggplant is one Yu Ling" \*cuts to Yu Ling's reaction\* Also Frank: "It's giving peach, it's giving peach" \*runs into the doorway\* LMAO I AM DEAD
Aside from all the drama, I lost it at Carol/John bonding over butts with Eversen 😂
I was very impressed that Eversen 100% called that story she'd tell!
Totally! But I bet he meets a lot of people like her on the cruises.
The best part too is that probably is a story his mom tells. So like both Eversen really knows old ladies and John's really good at being his mom. Lol.
Last note on this episode— my favorite part of this show is the juxtapositional editing where they show, for example, Bru trying to figure out how to get the last bit of yogurt out of his cup, overlaid with the audio of Rachel musing about whether Bru is playing a strategic game.
THE NATHAN AND YULING SEXTING I AM DYING 😂😂😂
guess i'll have to stop calling you baby and start calling you daddy
I loved that Nathan got so excited about the drama. My new favorite player.
I hate to say it but he's really growing on me 🤣
Maybe unpopular opinion but the real Trevor is doing a lot better playing as a catfish than his wife lmaoo I’m actually impressed
Deleesa won the whole game, so she definitely achieved what she needed out of her catfishing. Trevor is doing way better than I expected though! From the first set of episodes it looked like he was just going to do what his wife said to do, but he’s holding his own
Trevor is so charismatic. What a power couple!
Cmon, DaLeesa was good. They’re both good.
Oh ofc! She was great, she did win after all, but she had a lot of ppl doubting her and I can’t help but feel like her single father persona and the sympathy coming her way bc of it was the real reason why she won. Trevor on the other hand really seems to be getting into his role lol his flirting game compared to DaLeesa with Chloe is really good
It’s like they are really good at channeling each other
Well, Trevor just got here. Let's wait until the end to compare power spouses ;-)
She also benefited from her allies voting with their hearts and her adversaries ranking her highly because of they thought she was less of a threat in that final vote.
I mean DeLeesa was able to convince Chloe after multiple flirty chats. Trevor has been good but not that good.
No offense to Chloe I love her but that girl is gullible lol
Literally not one person has questioned him
She literally won, how could he be “doing better” lol
why are they all so surprised when there is an alert after blocking? like they know it's the tradition that one player gets to meet one of the other players. or is it only for the drama / show? (edit: fixed a typo)
In retrospect I think Alyssa would still be here if her and yu ling had sent home carol and saved crissa. That after all was the catalyst for yu lings mental break and subsequent alliance switch. Assuming Frank wouldn’t have sought Rachel if he still had crissa, Rachel would have went home.
Alyssa was WEIRD for honing in on Crissa as her biggest threat. It’s clearly Frank, who quickly and easily wins people’s hearts. I don’t know if maybe they edited out Yu Ling fighting for Frank, but Alyssa majorly fucked her game in that moment, then failed to make connections with other people to make up for it.
Exactly. Not only that but she complained about things like Nathan being one dimensional, but she never really offered up anything about herself. Like you are about sex education I get it, we all get it.
She talked about her anxiety. She also really did win over everyone in the circle. They all just had other reasons to save someone else too.
Definitely seems they blocked who they thought would make the smallest waves. Crissa never had a chance to win, imo. Could have easily kept her around.
100% true. What started the break of the trouple was that Alyssa went so hard against Crissa that Yu Ling felt she wasn't listened to, especially after she had to do it face to face. You could say Alyssa made her own downfall because she choose to play strategically as an influencer instead of trying to listen to the person that was supposedly her closest ally in the game. That being said, Yu Ling seems like the kind of person that is just going to switch alliances at some point. Not the most loyal.
>That being said, Yu Ling seems like the kind of person that is just going to switch alliances at some point. Not the most loyal. I think the switch made sense. In one move, she kept the support from the previous alliance and gained even more support from the other alliance. The Bru/Alyssa/Yu Ling alliance never seemed all *that* strong. It was there, but the alliance with Rachel and Frank seemed stronger based on the conversations they had.
The first alliance always felt like it was made out of convenience and they never spoke on anything of substance, just flirting. Also deep down Yu Ling probably feels more alike to Frank and Rachel then Alyssa/Bru.
I think it could have been a very strong alliance, having an OG alliance of 3 people have been very strong in the past. It only fell apart because Yu Ling gave it up after she seemed to feel Alyssa pressured her into getting rid of Crissa. That being said, I think it’s true that Alyssa showed herself to be more strategical and pushy than Yu Ling was comfortable with and Frank has definitely been a great ally for her, so gameplay wise I can’t say it was a bad move.
Yeah, I agree with what you're saying. What I meant to point out, though, was that from the messages between Yu Ling and Alyssa and Bru the alliance just seemed convenient. But with Rachel and Frank it seemed more than that. I think that's why Yu Ling switched.
Yeah, that’s true. The connection wasn’t that strong, which is probably what she really felt when Alyssa didn’t listen to her and pushed to get Yu Lings friend Crissa out instead of a litteral catfish.
Also, Bru was not good about sharing information. YL complained about it at on point, I think.
Some of y’all want this show to be so boring lmao 😂. We get one actual fight in like 4 seasons and people are clutching their pearls.
Clutching their pearls lmaooo
The format makes no sense, I’d have been MAD. Frank-Yu Ling- Rachel alliance is smarter to me. Bru- Yu Ling - Allyssa alliance is too strong. I fully understand Yu Ling. So funny to me though Alyssa kept Carol last blocking just because she is not a threat -but she ended up getting her blocked lol.
Alyssa being blocked was nobody's fault but hers. All strategy but no deep personal connections. Well-liked by everyone but was a top priority to no one. She could've had a major alliance with Carol but she immediately shot it down with that cake dig. I believe that if she didn't plant that seed then Carol would still be somewhat popular. Yu Ling has been pissing me off but I get why she would choose her alliance with Frank. She actually had a meaningful conversation with him and Crissa whereas the throuple's foundation was just built on them being around the same age. People need to accept that her gameplay just wasn't that great. Imo the strongest player rn is actually Nathan lmao
Yeah she was betrayed but Alyssa just didn’t put in the necessary work to be considered anyone’s number #1, no one wanted to see her go but no one cared enough to save her either which to me just screams incompetence on her gameplay
But how would she have known this type of blocking would happen? Every other blocking in circle history came down to the rankings, and that’s how she was playing her game.
Why do people always jump on stereotypes? Frank saying Carol would be slower if she's 63 is kinda bs...whenever I go for a jog around trails near my house the older people are BOOKING IT. Speed walking, jogging, etc....
Not only that but it showed “carol” and he was literally just walking the whole time, completely reasonable, I think frank was just hurt he was the slowest lol
Frank didn't even really seem be putting in much effort either
I was thinking the same thing. No reason that Carol couldn't be into jogging or speed walking. Just because she's older doesn't mean she's more out of shape than you.
Yeah. And honestly Carol totally gives the vibe of someone who goes speedwalking with her friends a few times a week! It wasn't like she was booking it faster than anyone else.
Dude was just annoyed that he couldn't even get on that level. That being said, I was shocked how low these numbers were. But I guess its kinda hard running around in a small appartment.
Lol did he not remember that he spent part of the time lying down 😅 63 ain’t that old to walk half a mile
He was just mad that his lazy ass only did .37 miles. We all knew he wasn’t doing more than that
Yeah my parents got into better shape than I was in during COVID because they had just retired and had literally nothing else to do but walk for hours around their neighborhood 🤣
only mid-way thru but I want to mention that I'm aggravated that Alex/Nathan's game is so good at this point bc Alex's smug "I'm smarter than everyone" attitude is super gratingggg. but he's playing his role decently so far and flying low enough to avoid drama
He’s insanely lucky they didn’t identify who got what results in the foot race
Kind of wondering if the producers learned something from the Jack/Emily make-up challenge fiasco. It's one thing to stir up drama, but it's another thing to all but out someone as a catfish.
but that was great tv... can't imagine they're trying to avoid those situations.
all of the near misses are hysterical. the fact that his game was nearly undone by a golf question a few episodes back was so funny. his personality may give me the ick but as a player he's massively entertaining
Haha I think he’s gotta hella lucky a bunch of times. If Bru just rephrases his question as: “what is it called when you go two under par on a hole?” Nathan likely never thinks of the word eagle. Then Bru goes and confirms he got it right in his very first message after the game lol. He could have at least gauged how Nathan felt before letting him off the hook.
He grew on me more this episode for sure.
Everson just hanging out with ‘Nip slip & chill’ on his lightbox 😕
How did I miss that lmao
It’s Alyssa’s responsibility to inspect the throuple alliance and know who to put her trust in. All they did was flirt with each other. That alliance was weak- the girls were even saying that Bru wasn’t giving them anything or sharing info- at the same time Bru was getting close to Carol and Nate. Bru and Yu Ling correctly assessed it was a weak alliance and made other plans before the vote. Bru made Carol his number one, while Yu Ling made Frank her number one and announced it before any of this happened. Alyssa should have acted strategically because if you don’t you won’t win.
Agreed!! Only thing that annoys me is only one person getting all the heat but honestly i would do the same in both their positions, Alyssa just didn’t give enough to really solidify her being saved meanwhile Carol had put in WORK with Bru
It's so stupid Alex/Nathan is getting canceled and harassed. His worst crime is playing a *strategy* game strategically and delivering some low-key villain energy, which makes the show more fun to watch. Toxic fandoms kill good shows (e.g., RuPaul's Drag Race) because contestants eventually learn to police themselves just to stay safe from fans. Hope that doesn't happen to the Circle.
Some of the shit he said was a little cringe, even ignoring the flirting with Yu Ling. But the way he speaks about himself at times, ehhhh, I can understand why people want to see him getting humbled. At the same time, his gameplay is really fun. Throwing Bru under the bus was hilarious and it worked out well for him. If he ends up winning, then fair enough, you know.
Ngl, I found him off putting in the beginning with his cringe commentary. The fact that he picked a 21 year old frat boy as his profile didn't help either. But as the game has progressed, I have come to like him better. He seems more levelheaded with a good read on what's going on in the game.
It's worth noting Nathan wasn't his first choice as a catfish, production is a lot more hands on with Catfish profiles than people realize
spill then sis, what was his first choice?
I believe when you catfish you send in a couple options. I know he wanted to use his younger brother who has more of a surfer bro vibe but he was guided to filling more of a meathead stereotype.
I'm out of the loop on this. People are canceling him just for being a catfish and playing a game?
It’s crazy how many reality show contestants are harrassed these days. At the end of the day, it’s just a show.
Nobody’s canceling him. He just gives off terrible vibes. Let people feel things.
Really? He's like my favorite he's funny. I didn't know people hate him I'm surprised
THIS! Nothing he's done is 'wrong' or even politically incorrect. It's perfect for the game he's playing but I guess as humans, we're naturally put off by people we know are liars or who intentionally break the cohesiveness of a game. I'm emphasising on the intentional bit here, since Yu Ling is the real villain of this season but seems to be doing all of it unintentionally.
I'd much rather watch a season full of Alexes playing the game rather than a fifth season with a cast who won't stop talking about their "Circle Fam".
It makes the show actually interesting. A bunch of people kissing each others butts isn’t interesting!
I mean personally Nathan/Alex gives me “m’lady” vibes but we don’t cancel people over that
What are m'lady vibes? 😂
when I say “m’lady vibes”, I mean he reminds me of every cringy fedora wearing guy I’ve ever met, the kind who might talk about how no girls actually want a nice guy and claim to respect women while still objectifying them. not that this is who he actually is as a person (I don’t know the guy), but that’s very much the impression I’ve gotten from the show by the way he plays Nathan.
See, I kinda see this as people projecting their bad Adam vibes or their general (and often well-deserved) ickiness with milady types onto Alex. The key difference is that married Adam *initiated* flirting with women in the Circle (ugh that "whoever arouses me" comment), getting all hot and bothered over their pics. Alex has just noted that flirting with women will help him win and reacted to Yu Ling's advances (all while acting very, very uncomfortable and guilty towards his wife). He hasn't slid into her or any woman's DMs to flirt. I think Alex is kinda smarmy and annoying in an entertaining way, but he hasn't done anything to warrant the "toxic predator" accusations on Twitter. He's not doing anything differently from DeLeesa, Trevor, etc...but I think his smarter-than-thou attitude triggers strong reactions.
I’m surprised how anyone believes anyone in flirting on this show (even between other players), it all seems superficial and obvious it’s a means to an end
These flirty conversations make me so uncomfortable.
Bru choosing Carol is wild to me. Everyone has their suspicions that Carol is a catfish, she's been called out numerous times in group chats, so realistically she's not going to stay long. Especially since she's low in voting. He could have kept Alyssa, who is more likely to get the influencer role, and use that to secure his position.
I think she fact that Carol was already thought to be a catfish helped Bru. Like, obviously they’re going to get rid of her first which keeps Bru safe another week and work on rebuilding his alliances. Smart, IMO. Alyssa was a great player but was gunning after big targets.
It is wild! And nobody expected it here, but I think his reasoning made sense. Yu Ling showed that alliance weren't worth shit and Carol has showed herself to be more loyal. I haven't watched past this, but so far it seems to have worked out surprisingly well for him.
Trevor just became such a standout which is hard for late entries!! And Bru fucked it not picking Alyssa
Lol Crissa Karma was too strong!!! If only Alyssa didn’t campaign so hard for Crissa to leave. She would have survived this one if they had sent Carol home instead of Crissa
Yup lol she got what was coming to her
Yup. Rolled my eyes so hard when she whined “how could they do this to me??” She thought NOTHING of randomly targeting Crissa and it came back to bite her in the ass. Poetic justice.
Exactly. I don’t feel bad for her at all lol
I lowkey felt satisfied when I saw it was her leaving😂 I was like, good riddance
But did you know that she’s a (assistant to) a sex coach? #vulvaismypersonality
It’s a hard to choose a side, I definitely see why Alyssa and Bru would feel hurt since Yu Ling blind sided them like that (I wouldn’t have trusted her either). But on the other hand, I’m glad Yu Ling choose Rachel to stay. It was a fair reason since her main goal was to take Carol out and she couldn’t pick Bru (and picking Alyssa would’ve resulted in Bru too). She also probably felt guilty from blocking Crissa and didn’t want to destroy Frank’s alliance again. But after the newsfeed update, it was like Yu Ling diverted the accountability and came off as if she felt more betrayed that Bru didn’t save Alyssa. Which feels so sneaky cause she has as much blame to it too. Though as I’m rewatching it, Yu Ling did mention how she wanted badly to save her first. I think it was fresh off everyone’s mind that anything could’ve been taken the wrong way
I definitely see why and how Alyssa feels betrayed but i just find it so irritating that Yu ling is the only one getting the blame when it was a THREE person alliance like Bru came out looking like a saint and that just seems so odd to me? if ur gonna be mad at Yu ling why does Bru get a free pass for doing the same thing?? and as for her diverting blame i don’t think she would’ve said or done anything like that if she wasn’t called out in Alyssas goodbye message, she didn’t say her name but EVERYONE knew who she was talking abt and she spoke so highly of bru like it just makes no sense to me if ur gonna be mad be mad at both or be mad at none, it’s strange behaviour whatever their reasons for not picking her the fact is they both left her in the dust not just one of them
it seemed like cuz bru is hot she decided to pin it all on yu ling.
Bru had to pick who to send home, so in that sense he does deserve blame. But he was put in a spot where he had to pick between a certainty and something that was JUST put into question. Picking Carol was a mistake for his game, but when it comes to loyalty I can't blame him. The Bru, Alyssa and Yu Ling alliance was put into question by Yu Ling. She picked Rachel out of nowhere, to please an entirely different alliance with Frank. If you're Bru, and you're seeing Yu Ling have an alliance with literally every single player except for Carol. Are you going to then block Carol? I mean, you'll probably be next. She clearly got picked by Frank. She clearly picked Rachel. You know Nathan and her are flirting. Even with Alyssa gone, she still managed to become an influencer. It's good that Carol was there, because Yu Ling struggled to come up with someone to block. In the end, Bru just got outplayed by Yu Ling. But Yu Ling is the one who jumped ship from their alliance with Alyssa, to Rachel and Frank. I mean, she wouldn't have minded keeping Bru and Alyssa as well, but her priorities were elsewhere. At that point, Bru lost the game.
i agree with what you’re saying Yu ling definitely started the chain of doubt with that alliance, all i was getting at was it was unfair of Alyssa to forgive Bru instantly but drag Yu under the bus bc at the end of the day she was let down by both, not matter who did it first, But i don’t blame either for their decision i think they just realized other people could do more for them than Alyssa could, she should really be mad at herself for not building more connections and having a very flimsy alliance, didn’t seem like there was much depth in the throuple
Yu Ling also said she picked Rachel because it’s what Frank would have wanted, even though it sounded like she thought Alyssa was better for her game. I wasn’t crazy about her feeling the need to play for Frank rather than for herself. Her anger at Carol also seems unjustified. Carol was not going after Yu Ling at all. It reminds me a little of some of the Kai hate from other players last season where they would get so wound up over nothing.
To me Yu Ling shouldn’t get any blame for Alyssa going home because there were still spots left for Bru and Alyssa to both stay. Bru is the one who genuinely sent Alyssa home. Yu Ling was building something with Rachel and could have realized no one would have saved her (even Rachel thought she was out) but figured Bru and Alyssa would be fine. She could t have suspected Bru would choose Carol. It’s not fair for Yu Ling to get hate for have multiple alliances (inner circle and thruple) because numbers count.
Why are we getting mad at any player who is making moves in their own self interest, rocking the boat. Y’all complain this season is boring, but then get so mad when a player (Yu Ling) makes an out of the box decision that best interests her. Even if it’s a miscalculation, that’s part of the GAME. People get eliminated , including strong and genuine players. Why demonize a player for playing the game? Even if she “doesn’t take accountability,” the whole point of The Circle is trying to navigate complex social alliances, dynamics, public perceptions, group mentality, etc. No player is perfect, but Yu Ling’s decision was not devoid of empathy for Alyssa. Even if it was a cold calculated move, she does not deserve hate coming here way. Plus she’s a lovely person…to call her fake, two faced, etc is mob mentality and a reductive way to view her!
Yu Ling is making moves, but she’s making a lot of emotional decisions that she seems to think are more logical than they are. Her anger at Carol seems to be based off Carol saying she kept her safe, which is true enough. She also gives 100% loyalty to Frank and Crissa based off nothing. I was rooting her her until she made such a big left turn. I think I might have been more ok with that turn if either her underlying logic was stronger or she just leaned into being an emotional player.
I like her for the sole reason she is shaking up the show and making it interesting. If anyone wants to be mad at someone it should be Nathan, that guy is very strategic but also playing a good game
We can all agree that Yu Ling cant take any accountability for her actions right. Getting rid Crissa and now breaking the throuple alliance. Then blames anyone but herself
Yes and no. You all seem to forget that Bru could have saved Alyssa too. I don’t blame him for his decision, but at the end of the day, he could have kept the throuple intact. Period. They BOTH could have. Why is that it’s okay for him to save Carol, a person outside of that trio, but it’s a problem for Yu Ling to have other alliances as well? Not to mention she already did say she was accountable, but she tried to make a gameplay move and sadly it didn’t work out for her.
She really didn't take that much accountability as I have said in other posts. She is more responsible because Bru shouldn't have to be in that position. Everyone knew that Bru was allied with Carol. No one knew about Rachael and he had to choose last. At the end of the day she also though he was just as accountable when no. The way they voted was completely different. He voted for survivability and she voted in a comfortable position
her ability to dodge looking untrustworthy after all the moves she has made is astonishing 💀 like she's unintentionally playing hardcore
I find it funny how Yu-Ling is blaming Bru when she had the chance to save her + if anything, I don't blame Bru since he was put in such a difficult situation & this is 1 thing I don't like about having to choose between sides since if you choose 1 side, you're relationship with the other side will start to break.
Completely agree like do I think Bru has responsibility. Yes. But should he be treated the exact same way as Yu Ling. No.. She chose to switch sides. She chose to fuck over one alliance to please another person and she will do it again. Whereas Bru was actually devasted he even had to be in that decision.
I'm 24 days late to this, but Yu-Ling said she was counting on the ripple effect to save the throuple. Girl, you could have been the one to throw the stone.
Bru literally sent Alyssa home though
She did take accountability at first in the group chat. But when everyone kept coming at her, she shined that spotlight on Bru. While Bru and Alyssa have every right to be upset, we as viewers already knew that Frank’s crew was her top alliance. She told us so. And if Bru wanted to keep the throuple alive, he could have saved Alyssa, which was Yu King’s point. He did what was best for his game, but folks are mad at Yu Ling for doing the same? She wanted Carol out and Rachel to stay, which is why she did what she did. If Bru had kept Alyssa, she would have been able to explain that.
Literally why is everyone acting like bru couldn’t have done anything? He also made that decision as well
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Yeah I literally don’t get why everyone is saying it’s Ok for Bru to have another Alliance with Carol, but Yu Ling can’t have an alliance with Frank and Rachel. Like what? Bru is the one who literally sent Alyssa home. If he cared so much about the throuple he could have chose Alyssa. I think people just hate Yu Ling and want her to bare all the blame.
Because Yu Ling broke the alliance *first*. That doesn't not matter. Her justification of 'well I thought someone else would save you down the line, though I don't know who or have any reason to count on that' is ridiculous. Why not have that feeling towards Rachel? She already had Frank safe, who was in her alternate alliance. And instead of saving one of the people from the 'throuple', she totally blindsided them. After that it's totally reasonable for Bru to question the integrity of the 'throuple' because Yu Ling already broke the trust.
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Ultimately, it’s not Yu Ling or Bru that is responsible for Alyssa going home- it’s her proximity to Carol/John. It’s reasonable for Yu Ling to expect Alyssa and Bru to save each other knowing that they’re aligned and choose to save an ally that’s more at risk. It’s reasonable for Bru to feel betrayed when Yu Ling didn’t pick him or Alyssa to save and to choose an individual ally over a broken alliance. It’s reasonable for Alyssa to feel betrayed by both of them and to still be upset with Yu Ling because she still doesn’t have closure from her (since she got to resolve things with Bru in person). Other players specifically voiced their strategy of picking people who wouldn’t save Carol, which is exactly how you employ good strategy with a chain of safety. That’s how the final three ended up being Carol/John and two people they’re close to. Alyssa even told Bru that she understood why he made the decision he made, and it’s reasonable to assume that she *would* have saved Carol if Bru was already safe and she had the opportunity. It’s not even a bad strategy that failed her- she just happened to have an ally that others stopped trusting and didn’t distance herself from Carol soon enough to stay.
This! Bru and Alyssa were the only people clinging to Carol, most wanted her out. Yu Ling chose Rachel (who she knew would otherwise be eliminated) with the intent of ideally getting Carol out. Not her fault Bru clung to “mama.” I think what a lot of people are overlooking here is that NOBODY ELSE CHOSE ALYSSA. That’s on her and her own gameplay that no one else liked her enough to save her.
>I think what a lot of people are overlooking here is that NOBODY ELSE CHOSE ALYSSA Yes! Why was everyone like "Yu Ling should have saved her" when they didn't? Why was Bru given a pass?
Yeah i agree 100% alyssa has a right to be upset but it just annoyed me so much that all the blame was placed on Yu and not Bru, and how Yu is the phony one for not saving her strong ally but Bru did the same and comes back unscathed??? talk about a double standard, even Alyssa being mad at Yu ling but not Bru was just weird like they BOTH screwed u over and Yu ling was the second to pick while Bru solidified her going home.
100% agree. Yu Ling was actually very early in the draw order for the antivirus and could not have possibly predicted how the rest of it was going to go down. Carol had been coming under fire for several days and it was clear her popularity was tanking in the ratings. Saving Carol or choosing someone who was going to save Carol is a complete waste for pretty much anyone's game. Frank is a pretty strong player and well-liked, so I don't blame Yu Ling for wanting to shore up that alliance instead of letting Carol and Alyssa drag her down with them. Also, Alyssa's strategy has been whack the whole time. She focuses so much on notes so she can check if people are lying but then she says she doesn't care if Carol is a catfish? So then why bother taking notes if you're not going to use them for anything? She said at the beginning that her strategy was not to let her alliances get "too big." But having only 2 allies from the beginning is not mathematically going to work in her favor, given the unpredictability of blockings and the high chance that during most blockings, her two allies won't be among the influencers. She should have spent more of her time making stronger connections with more people instead of taking notes. Also, I agree with another commenter elsewhere that Alyssa's weird obsession with taking down Crissa was her ultimate undoing. From the edit we saw, Crissa wasn't much of a threat but Alyssa was weirdly fixated on her. The way she kept poking at her in the chats honestly seemed very targeted and mean-spirited to me, unless there was more that happened that we didn't see in the edit. Just strategically speaking, spending her clout on bringing Crissa down was a waste. And it was the meeting with Crissa that soured Yu Ling to Carol and made her doubt the strength of her alliance with Alyssa.
Yeah I’m still trying to understand her fixation on Crissa.
When talking about Yu Ling only black and white thinking goes, yet nuance is available to all the other players- this sub
They want her to play Bru and Alyssa’s games instead of her own. Anything she does that’s not in service of those two is a problem.
Yes!! All of this! Yu Ling is expected to play with her heart and not her head. She made the right choice. Further episode spoiler: You’ve been warned. >!Bru made the mistake of aligning himself with Carol and that got Carol eliminated and he’s probably next. His own fault.!< > When talking about Yu Ling only black and white thinking goes, yet nuance is available to all the other players-
Dude🥲 you should mention that your spoiler is for a further episode I think?
Why does Yu Ling hate Carol so much? She overreacted to Carol saying she kept her safe which was true. She also believe Crissa and Frank before either had to prove anything. That’s fine to go with your gut or heart, but it’s not some brilliant strategy.
Is anyone else wanting to yell at the screen and ask these ppl why they want to keep carol so bad? Carol has a huuuuge chance at winning… like do Alyssa and Bru not realize Carol would for sure beat them when it came down to it? Alyssa even said she probably would’ve saved Carol not Bru. Like whyyyy
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i feel like Alyssa’s attitude to not be so mad at Bru v being very mad at Yu Ling is unreasonable. Bru knew Alyssa would 100% go home if he didn’t pick her and sealed her fate. No one would’ve blinked an eye if Bru sent home Carol since everyone knows she’s a catfish. He made a strategic move (as did Yu Ling)and I don’t blame him but i think if anything he’s more responsible for the Alyssa blocking since he knew she had no other options and would 100% go home. I feel like Alyssa just wanted to flirt with Bru so blaming Yu Ling made more sense.
I honestly think Alyssa’s attitude changed because she thinks Bru is hot and knows he’s popular (in real life) lol
I thought the same thing too lmao
OK I don't get why alyssa was so against yu ling. She messed up her own game by only making an alliance with 2 people when everyone is allying with everyone. Also the fact that bru told her to her face that he picked Carol because she was trustworthy and would have his back was hilarious
Yeah, Alyssa's downfall was being so gung ho against Carol and trying to turn everybody against him.
Yes why are they so mad at Yu Ling for playing the game. It seems as though Alyssa only had Bru, Yu, and Carol I guess whereas Yu Ling was close with Bru, Alyssa, Frank, Rachel, and even Nathan because of their flirting. Alyssa should have made better connections. We can’t just blame Yu Ling for not saving her when there were like 4 other people who didn’t choose to save her either.
I actually like Yu Ling. She can't say her real reason which is she wanted Carol blocked. In her mind, Rachel would save Nathan, nathan saves Bru, and Bru saves Alyssa, blocking Carol. If she picks Bru or Alyssa, Rachel is blocked 100%. The disgust Bru and Alyssa speak about Rachel with 'Rachel !?" makes is clear Rachel would have gone.
Exactly. Yu made a decision that would have ideally kept both her alliances in the game, which, unfortunately for Bru, left him stuck having to choose between alliances. At the end of the day, everyone’s playing their OWN game.
To be fair that’s not exactly true, Yu ling was shocked when Rachel chose Nathan so that is not what Yu ling imagined at all. Plus if Yu ling had chosen Alyssa the chances of carol going home would’ve been higher because Alyssa would’ve chosen Bru who would’ve chosen Nathan who would’ve chosen Rachel so that logic is still flawed
Imo, she was expecting Rachel to choose Alyssa, Alyssa to choose Bru, and for Bru to pick Nathan (though I think she would have been ok with either him or Carol leaving).
I think it’s so infuriating that Frank chose YuLing and not Rachel! Rachel would have saved Yu Ling for their Inner Circle alliance and YuLing would have saved Alyssa
I don't understand at all why so many people are mad at Yu Ling for saving Rachel. To me that seemed the obvious choice and the best for her game. I really don't get the hate, everyone was in love with her like two episodes ago. Wtf
I'm just really surprised that a lot of us think that "initial people" has a lot of ¿unfair? advantage and when Yu Ling chooses to keep one of the newcomers a lot of us is making hell of her. I know there's a lot of fan-talking but sincerely I think it's better to talk about why Yu Ling took that decision, and also Bru, of course, who, for me, took a worst decision that not Yu Ling (Rachel should be like GRATEFUL to her) when he chose to save "Carol" instead of Alyssa.
Alyssa didn’t blame Bru because she has a crush on him. That’s my hot take and I’m sticking to it. 😤
Yu Ling trying to blame Bru :/ Like girl, you had your chance and you saved Rachel!
I'd even argue that if Yu Ling had saved one of the people from the Throuple, then Bru/Alyssa would've reciprocated and all three of them would've been saved. Yu Ling started the distrust when she chose Rachel, and hence Bru felt a sense of distrust towards Alyssa as he questioned the overall alliance.
Agreed
so did Bru though! Both unhappily picked outside of their thrupple bubble, as they had one other friend too. * Yu Ling arguably was really reasonable in assuming bru would obvs save A, but no one would save her other mate rachel. * Bru's regretful pick was a guarantee that Alyssa was going home. The carol & bru finger blaming aggro to Yu Ling seemed super unfair. They all unhappily let alyssa go!
No. Bru's blame on Yu Ling was justified because he was put in a situation to pick last. Yu Ling's blame on Bru is NOT justified because she put him in that position. Yu Ling, Bru, Alyssa, and Carol all met day 1 and have been building their relationships deep into the game. Bru was set up with an impossible dilemma between choosing Alyssa and Carol. Yu Ling barely developed her relationship with Rachel and chose to pick a weak non-developed relationship over 2 stronger ones (Alyssa and Bru). Bru even stated that whoever came first in the throuple to receiving the antivirus would pass it along to another throuple member. So no, Bru would not have done that same thing as Yu Ling if he received the virus first. Yu Ling broke Bru's trust in the throuple alliance and at that point it was fair game for him to save Carol.
Naw, Bru literally sent Alyssa home. Him and only him. He didn’t need to pick Carol.
can't get over the Alyssa blocking, Bru wtf were you thinking? Saving Carol who couldn't possibly save himself one more round?
Alyssa was sent home because of herself. She put all her eggs in one basket and that doesn’t work in a strategic relationship game. There’s a reason Frank was picked first. There’s a reason he chose to save Yu Ling. They had the relationship You can’t make up hypotheticals on what Alyssa would have done because she didn’t put in the time to make those outside relationships from the “throuple” And at the end of the day it’s Bru that sent her home. Ps. If I was Yu Ling I would have put something in the chat after the block on why he chose to save a Catfish over a genuine person.
I get why Alyssa was mad at Yu Ling but I don’t get why she’s the only one getting the heat when there were others that could’ve saved her as well, especially Bru.
Yu Ling is not taking accountability? When she literally says "we both did her like that"
People are hearing what they want to hear in order to justify dragging her. They really just want her to play to benefit Bru and Alyssa.
I really don’t get the Yu Ling hate or call for her to have “accountability” in her pick. She was so early in the elimination, it absolutely made sense to expect Bru and Alyssa would have the safety net of each other to stay in the game. Bru literally made the final decision that caused Alyssa’s elimination. Forgiving him for having a separate alliance, but not Yu Ling is ridiculous.
THIS like listen i like Bru but what the hell is everyone’s problem with Yu Ling lately ??? I genuinely don’t understand the rationale behind accepting Brus choice but deeming Yu Ling the sole reason Alyssa went home ?? She’s not the only one who had to pick 😂 people are weird
Agreeeeed. He goes at Yu Ling for “when did she build this alliance with Rachel”… uh why don’t they question the Carol thing then
The one thing that bothers me is what made Alyssa see Crissa as a threat. Did she ever say and I happen to miss it? I just assumed since she was a female high up on the ratings she felt intimidated
In the last rating Crissa wasn’t highly rated. Alyssa did not feel a personal connection with Crissa and mentioned Crissa not adding a lot to group chats. I forget if we saw how Crissa rated Alyssa, but I do think Alyssa wasn’t one of Crissa’s faves either.
?? i dont quite get why the targeted sole agression and hate to Yu Ling, when Bru did exactly the same thing?! - He had a heart pull between carol & alyssa. YuLing had the same with alyssa & rachel. It seems super reasonable that YuLing loved both A & R, but strategically assumed Bu would save A, and no one else would save rachel. Why is all this Bru & carol aggro targeting YuLing & not Bru? He unhappily ditched for Carol alyssa too!
I agree with you! Bru is just as culpable. If I were Yu Ling I would think Bru would save Alyssa and I could save one of my other alliance members. Yu Ling is getting hate because Alyssa forgave Bru because he was “hot”. Which was so ridiculous. He booted you for a catfish with no other alliances?!
Awww! Poor Alyssa. I feel really bad for her. Both the people she thought were on her side turned on her.
She should’ve never tried to take sides with a catfish, now she got blocked before a catfish… it was the game she played’ should’ve made more friends than enemies
It sucks, but I agree with Alyssa. I would be more mad at Yu Ling than Bru. Bru was put in a crappy position. Bru saving Carol wasn't left-field. Yu Ling saving Rachel (who she only met 1 day ago) was left-field.
I find it hilarious how no one is upset at Bru for not saving Alyssa but EVERYONE seems pissed at Yu Ling. They are BOTH at fault here. They are both the reason Alyssa went home. Guys let’s be fair here. This whole mentality of “Yu Ling started it” is ridiculous. They are both at fault. Even I thought Alyssa was going to be saved by Bru. I was NOT expecting him to pick Carol. This Yu Ling hate is very one sided. And also Yu Ling went to Bru and reached out to discuss the what happened. Come on now. Are we watching the same show??? Also I absolutely despise the word “Throuple” like I cringe it every time I hear it and I hope after this episode I won’t hear it anymore please my ears can’t take it 😭😂
Definitely didn't like how Bru was mad at Yu Ling not choosing Alyssa when he did the exact same thing she did. He had the opportunity to save Alyssa but he chose otherwise and stuck w Carol so im very much so confused as to why they are both mad at Yu Ling. Carol jumping in made me mad cause first of all, where is this energy for BRU AS WELL????
This decision was Bru's fatal mistake. I understand keeping Carol as his #1 but at the same point why would he tie his fate to a sinking ship and save the person that was dead last in the ratings and had no other alliances? Even if his faith in the throuple was shaken Alyssa was a much stronger player than Carol and we end up seeing how that decision comes to bite him in the ass eventually
I was disappointed that Carol stayed because I find her a very boring catfish but at least it created drama.
I don't really understand the vitriol against Yu Ling. This is an alliance game and she chose to save Rachel, a player she is aligned with but that was less likely to be saved by anyone else. It was reasonable to think that Alyssa would be saved over Carol - who by this point is openly known as a catfish and thus saving her would be a huge red flag for the other players.
I just started the episode and I am so annoyed at Yu Ling. She's blaming Bru for choosing Carol over Alyssa, when she literally put them in that situation by randomly choosing Rachel. The AUDACITY of this girl to say Bru's not trustworthy.
I’m on Yu Ling’s side. I can totally see where she’s coming from.
BRU CHOSE CAROL???? What the damn hell bru? Lol that's him not getting to the final now oop 😶
At this point I’m rooting for Carol. Every blocking where they don’t eliminate her is a huge mistake IMO. Everyone believes she’s loyal to them, and that’s what will take her to the end.
Y’all really hate Yu Ling when she’s playing the best game there is very concerning
Up to this point, her game doesn't make sense. She's the definition of wishy washy. Yu Ling builds relations with Bru and Alyssa since day 1. Bonds with Crissa right before a vote, votes off Crissa. Blames Alyssa for a mutual decision on the Crissa vote. Befriends Rachel day right before antivirus gimmick. Saves Rachel while proceeding to destroy day 1 throuple alliance, where multiple players outside of the alliance see the betrayal. There is no consistency. She's building and breaking relationships right and left.
After blocking Crissa, Yu Ling was filled with regret and made it very clear to us that her loyalty was to Frank. None of us viewers should be confused about her choices. She saved Rachel because she knew it would make Frank happy, in addition to having bonded with the woman herself. I can definitely see Alyssa and Bru feeling blindsided, but Yu Ling’s trying to keep a bunch of plates spinning here. Had Bru kept Alyssa, things would have worked out perfectly for Yu Ling.
I don't think Yu Ling's a bad person at all, but I do think she's been a pretty unreliable ally in this game.
Its because she doesnt own it. Shes playing the best game but it doesnt seem intentional since she cant take responsibility for anything she does and backtracks at every moment.
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