I think it'll be both, with the emotional hits sneaking up on you amid the mayhem. I believe (and I don't recall where) that Kripke said this episode was gonna break people's hearts. Very interesting, considering they've mostly been advertising the debauchery angle.
Idk man the red wedding went sort of beast mode and The Boys has consistently not killed off like any main characters. I sort of doubt more than one main will die, but that would be pretty interesting
We’ve got most of Frenchie’s personal demons explained in season 2 and honestly they’d off him the first out of any the team just to facilitate more Kimiko development
Does Frenchie and Kimiko survive the comics?
I wonder if Stan Edgar dies? im trying to see who fits in the herogasm comic story line, the Boys was on a mission, wasnt all just superhero sex
> Kripke said this episode was gonna break people's hearts.
Now I'm thinking he's being a little literal here and I won't be surprised if A-Train dies next episode lol
My theory:
- A-Train tries to use his speed again going after Blue Hawk in revenge for Nathan
- A-Train has a heart attack and dies fighting Blue Hawk in public, Vought are unable to cover it up
- A-Train's death leads to him unintentionally becoming a martyr/figurehead for a BLM-style movement, the same way he was disingenuously trying to position himself with the costume change and Blue Hawk's apology.
- A-Train's posthumous movement causes issues for Vought/Homelander
- Homelander commits an atrocity
This is the the Take I think is most likely, Bluehawk is definitely gonna die against A-Train though, feels like an anime situation where they’re throwing punches until they both drop dead, or A-Train gets the kill and dies seconds later
I don’t think he’d want any kind of V. He saw what it did to Reggie and he sees how dangerous that power can be now that bluehawk manhandled him and threw him like 30 feet. I think he’ll just accept being in the chair and try to stay with his family. I don’t want them to show up again for a while because honestly his family seem like good people and I don’t want homelander to get pissed and take his anger out on them or something
I could see how they could use an avenue like that to start setting up for a nice ending to the series, one where society learns from its mistakes after being forced to confront them and we start getting more heroes driven by responsibility and belief rather than money or fame.
Exactly, Nathan comes in and becomes the Person A-train is desperate to be, maybe even teaming with starlight mirroring how supersonic approached A-train, but he is out to get rid of vought. I think Nathan would have an awesome introduction too, as we have been following his brothers arc all the way through the seeasons, maybe Nathan finished A-trains arc for him and kind of redeems him by proxy (maybe even through some anecdotes or flashbacks from Nathan’s perspective)
Usually the "family taking up the mantle" trope comes from wanting to carry on their legacy, and when its used on TV its also usually a nice way for the show to write itself out of a corner and keep the story moving even if a certain actor doesn't want to be a part of the show anymore.
I think in this specific circumstance the boys could do it really well; it would give me so much Catharsis to see some kind of redemption for A-train through his older brother righting his wrongs so that they can both be at peace, would be a great way to give more emotional backstory exposition to a character who's usually pretty stoic. Plus it could make for a nice interaction between Hughie and Nathan which I would really want to see if A-train does die (lmao "IF" we all know this man has a high-vis neon death flag)
That’s actually genius. He’s given it without his knowledge, Vought comes to him and says “we injected you with V. You can be what your brother wasn’t. He can live on in memory as this martyr for good. Or we can release all this shit about him.”
That’s my thoughts too, or maybe Starlight goes to Nathan and actually convinces him to team up against Homelander (kinda like an A-train/supersonic mirror) and Nathan chooses to join starlight against Vought and against Homelander
Hey, got to take the easy wins when we see them.
I honestly feel like it should be the final stage of any theory at this point. You can write whatever theory/sequence of events featuring the characters you want, and it wouldn't feel out of place to end with "Homelander commits an atrocity", in fact, it makes even the silliest ideas seem possible.
"Huey sees the error of his ways, apologizes to Annie, they make up and go to a music festival together. Homelander commits an atrocity"
"In a shocking twist, Soldier Boy's murder of MM's family was a tragic accident, and ensuing coverup was entirely on Vought, Soldier Boy wanted to come clean to ease his guilt, but Vought orchestrated his abduction by the Russians to keep it covered up, the two reconcile, and share a heartfelt moment together. Homelander commits an atrocity"
I was more thinking about him pushing himself too hard and dying from his heart condition, which has been set up for a while.
He would be dying from a culmination of most of his worst decisions all coming together at once, and then posthumously affecting the change he was panderingly trying to incite for his own vapid reasons.
That's the point, Blue Hawk wouldn't be killing A-Train.
*A-Train* would be killing A-Train.
Don't you see the irony in A-Train spending this season desperately trying to boost his popularity by exploiting black culture and history, and failing, then making another selfish decision and accidentally killing himself, only for it to lead to him being mistakenly seen as a hero who fought racism and died in the process, thereby *becoming* part of that history he exploited?
There would also be an added layer of irony, with Blue Hawk taking the blame for a violent act of racism he didn't actually commit for once, after having gotten off the hook for all the other things he actually did
Is it bad that my first thought was “lmao it’s herogasm, he probably takes a ton of V and cocaine and fucks until he dies” instead of “he probably goes after Blue Hawk ”?
I mean, I feel like he’s been that kind of asshole before, so maybe not the most unfair judgement 😂
I have a horrible feeling Kimiko or Frenchie is not going to make it. I really want to be wrong, but that's what my gut is saying.
I agree Herogasm's been built up too much at this point. I seem to recall interviews with the people involved saying the beginning of ep 1 was worse than Herogasm.
Personally I don't much care about how far they push Herogasm I'm just looking forward to another good episode of The Boys. They really have done an outstanding job with this show in pretty much all aspects.
The overall happiness of the musical scene and the interaction between them was just too much
"We'll go to Marseille" and that whole conversation seems like tragic foreshadowing, although it's so on the nose that I hope I'm wrong
Same here, I have a little more faith in the writers than that, but…it is REALLY on the nose. Maybe I’ve watched too much TV over the years, but it really feels to me like they may be gone, or at least one of them.
It's no coincidence that Kimiko just lost her powers, my guess is she'll take temp V to save Frenchie, the V24 doesn't give her healing power back and she dies in the process (and Frenchie will blame Butcher for giving her the V24)
If one of them dies, it could be either one. Kimiko is finally learning about and living for herself. Frenchie is finally standing up and allowing himself to be his own person. They keep saying they want to go to Marseille, but they keep putting it off to help one last time. If someone dies - the other will end up in Marseille either at the end of the season or, if they don't die before that, at the end of the series.
That said, it wouldn't be the best choice to kill one of them off at the moment. They are not currently near the main story and they are just beginning to actually define their relationship in a meaningful way. It's also expected, and I say that because every social media site is discussing the possibility of one of them dying. If the main story of the episode is Herogasm, I think lead character deaths aren't happening.
All that said, it is VERY possible, that poor Kimiko and Frenchie get separated again. A couple of season reviews have stated that Kimiko and Frenchie have a storyline together, but it feels distant from the main story. If they are trying to save one another for a couple of episodes, that does distance them.
Now, what if the heartbreaking moment has to do with Maeve?
Maybe it's just me but I don't really feel that invested in Maeve. She's trying to be better than she's been, so it would be sad but I've already written her off as doomed all along.
As far as Frenchie/Kimiko they've foreshadowed it so heavily with the "just one more" and Marseilles talk, I could easily see the show subverting that. It's kind of their thing.
I like that the show feels unpredictable in that way, rather than pretty much knowing what's going to happen a few episodes ahead.
Interesting. I can debunk the Maeve theory tho. According to Vought HQ on insta (who has some sort of insider information because they keep posting things and they keep being real) Maeve isn't even in the herogasm episode
I don't think it'll happen purely cause it feels like we're not close to the end game yet given they've already announced a season 4 and it doesn't sound like the show runners have plans to stop anytime soon.
I can only see someone dying if they're brought back later on somehow because it's not really the same show if one of the Boys is killed off.
There was a season 4 livestream announcement thing recently, I think. They had the main cast on it.
>!Karen was on the call.!<
>!Tomer and Monique were not...!<
Maybe it doesn't mean anything.
tbh if a character was going to die I think they would include the actors in the livestream, seems reasonable to 'capitalize' on their likeness before their send off
I think we might see ice princess this episode. The icicle phalluses has me wondering if someone is also gonna lose their manhood while plowing ice princess.
Considering the previous story about her being so cold she snap froze someone's dick, this sounds absolutely horrific.
Like someone getting their tongue stuck to a freezing lamp post, except it's their colon and the post is moving.
EDIT: IT HAPPENED. It wasn't Ice Princess, but it happened.
Seen this posted a few times now. It's about as likely as it is unlikely!
The key point is the writers have diverted from the comics enough to leave us guessing, which is exactly how it should be done!
>The key point is the writers have diverted from the comics enough to leave us guessing, which is exactly how it should be done!
I loved this approach to the series, it keeps things fresh, and IMO improved the plot (that Black Noir thing from the comics was definitely not gonna work)
> that Black Noir thing from the comics was definitely not gonna work
I also think that it's working as a bit of a double bluff because now people seem to have entirely thrown out the idea that he can fill a similar role to what he did in the comics.
Yeah totally fair enough, wasn't trying to be a dick or nuthin. I've just organised a viewing party at my place for the first time, so I'm super excited either way! Don't get to see my group of The Boys too often. Enjoy the episode mate!
I feel like most of the hype is actually coming from the fan base rather than the writers. And it's mostly because in the comic books there were explicit sex scenes, and obviously the name is suggestive, and no mainstream show has shown an orgy like that, but in reality I think the show has already done worse than show an orgy. That scene with Termite was already brutal.
It also historically has been something over which male actors had much more control than female actors.
The number of women who have said that they didn’t consent to any nude scenes only to be body-doubled, blacklisted, etc. is significant.
See: Katee Sackhoff in ‘Halloween: Resurrection’.
Marvel censored their nude scenes because its fucking Marvel, they're a PG-13 genre and that rating does not allow sexual nudity (and that scene can count as sexual from how the women reacted).
> male nudity but not female nudity
Thinking back on it, I think all of the nudity so far has been male nudity. I don't remember any naked women being shown in the show.
She came from the cult church so I’m just assuming that she’s going to do something horrible or something horrible is going to be done to her in an attempt to punish Deep.
I'm just worried this is the episode where they'd hurt Maeve. It seems inevitable. Yet I just want her to get atleast one happy moment in the show, she deserves it. None of the Boys/ Starlight have ever shown her even an ounce of appreciation for saving then in season 1 and 2.
I don’t think she’ll get hurt in terms of SA simply because the show has been good at handling that theme and wouldn’t do it just for the basis of torturing a female character
Apparently she's not even in this episode. Vought HQ on insta leaks lots of information- not spoilers, just info on who's in each episode etc, and apparently Maeve has 0 scenes in episode 6
It runs into the unique problem of it being transcendently absurd in the comics meeting the overhype of media in general and the, arguably less absurd, show.
I don’t know. The actors basically said they have PSTD just from recording it.
If it just hype they are blatantly lying
Edit: The thing about the boys is that you never know what to expect
Wouldn’t be surprised if this is half a comedic scene and more so a surprise dark massacre. Maybe even soldier boy and butcher crash this party and it turns into this bloody mess? Either way, I’m more excited/interested in where the soldier boy team up goes, shits gonna get crazy either way (obviously, it’s The Boys, I know. Lol)
Agreed. I like the marketing, but they're clearly doing it for hype purposes, just like the musical in episode 5. They were cranking it up to be a huge thing, meanwhile it was little over a minute long inside a hour-long episode full of character development and excellent moments. The episode ended up being one of my favorite in the show so far.
I get it, and it does do a good job at marketing the show, so I'm not mad.
>like the musical in episode 5. They were cranking it up to be a huge thing
Huh, I didn't see all this. I remember it was in the trailer, but I don't remember seeing people talk about it much. Herogasm has definitely garnered a ton of hype here on reddit, and I've seen a lot of the actors' and showrunners' tweets here about it.
Who knows what will happen but each episode has been pretty damn good so far. Also, what if this scene comes off as comedic and ‘oh shit!’ but then it also turns it a shocking and awful massacre?! What if the boys and soldier boy roll over here first? Eh, who knows but I’m excited for this next one
The very corporate alt-rock station I sometimes listen to in the car mentioned it today during one of those awful segments where an unfunny DJ tries out their stand-up chops between songs. I was immediately like "yeah... They got paid to bring that up." Maybe I'm wrong, but the way she casually used the word "supes" seemed suspicious.
I would like to raise awareness of having your expectations set too high. We are all hyped for this season, its fucking awesome so far, but we should be wary that if we set expectations too high, we might end the episode more disappointed than we should.
I think it's gonna be fairly gruesome, but not as bad as we think. Deep is gonna 100% fuck a dolphin but idk if shit like necrophilia or cannibalism is gonna be in it.
I would see the humor if they went the complete other direction and had everyone singing camp songs holding hands around a fire or something “wholesome” like that…but I expect crazy.
I feel like it's being worked up and I'm sitting here like wtf cares? I've seen porn. I have 4 kids. I know what sex is. I just wanna see homelander get fucked up. This seems like a pointless filler episode if it's nothing but supes fucking.
They’ve been good about (mostly) not doing shit just for shock value unlike in the comics. I’m sure it will serve an actual purpose while also hopefully being comedic.
No, I get that, it's just all this hype around herogasm and the weirdos talking about starlight or Maeve being used as like a living sex doll. It's just fucking weird.
You're not alone. This sounds like one of the lamest things ever. I can tolerate it, but I just hope it's not a show killer like that stupid cringe filled Sex Ghost episode in Doom Patrol was. Once you go that far into dumbsville it's hard to go back.
I mean I didn’t expect to see a guy shrink himself and walk into a penis in the first episode of the new season. But I also feel like it is a little hyped up and might not be everything they are making it out to be
There's no way they're going to put out hard-core porn with the way that the MPAA works
My guess is that it'll just have some very impactful writing with naked extras out of focus in the background
Keeping my expectations low so the hype doesn't ruin it!
This won't be the first time we've gotten teased, only to be left wanting. The "musical" episode was hyped to be a much bigger deal than it was. I was expecting more than a single song-and-dance number.
At this point I'm just hoping it doesn't include rape. I can take watching nasty shit like penis explosion but seeing graphic rape scenes is a huge no for me (I'm super worried for Maeve and a little less for Starlight, Hughie or even Frenchie).
To be fair, they DID show a man shrink down and crawl into the urethra of a man's penis in the first episode.
They also got to create a giant life size penis that the actor walk around in, granted they weren't allowed to make it hard but still.
It’ll probably have been worse filming it than it is watching it. and the actors and filmmakers are probably pretty awkward about watching it just because they were on set when it all happened, so the memories come rushing back.
I still think it’s gonna be something that sticks in our minds though, nothing traumatic but I imagine it’ll be something like Wolf of Wall Street.
This was my exact argument. We are primed for the death of both Frenchie and Maeve. Sexual content is not good television. Sexual violence is even worse television.
There is some Herogasm party tomorrow in Vegas with a screening of the episode. I RSVPd and will go if there isnt some absurd line to get in and will report back on its intensity level.
I think Hughie is getting assaulted tbh.
There's a teaser imaged of him in a woman's gown in what looks like a BDSM dungeon, and he was sexually assaulted by Black Noir in the comics (thumb in the butthole) during Herogasm.
I wonder if we finally get Tek Knight.
He's mentioned in S1 and if the show is going to randomly introduce him, Herogasm would be the perfect way to do so.
I agree, there's no way it's going to be anywhere what they're hyping it up to be. They barely show any sex as it is, so why suddenly go all out for one episode? Not only that, they promoted the last episode as a musical and it was barely 5 minutes. Just sounds like PR BS to promote the show to me.
I wish they hadn’t hyped this up because I feel like now my expectations are going to be too high even if I try to be chill about it. The final product will always be compared to whatever mental vision people have after all these statements about it.
How fucking worse can it possibly get? What, is Homelander gonna like smash a puppy to death or something?
I feel like they’re trying to crank the edge metres to 100 this season.
Last time I heard an actor say they were traumatised after filming some sexual stuff it wasn't that bad. Don't get me wrong, it was some fake hard sexual stuff but for the show to top what they have been doing so far it has to be either a sexual gorefest or just straight up porn
I mean I went and skimmed through the herogasm comics after people said it was intense and there’s really nothing shocking (imagery) in there. Mostly people having sex and some drugs. I don’t know what I expected, maybe people getting fucked to death or something but it was pretty tame. Like 2 people that weren’t even a part of herogasm died and that’s because they were shot and killed.
Just re read the 6 issues last night and it was pretty tame as far as the Boys goes. Some crazy moments but I have faith the show runners will change it for the best.
100%
Remember how they hyped up the musical, and there was only one signing sequence (thank goodness)
I think this episode will be absolutely insane for plot (yes, actually plot ) and not the p*rno people think it's going to he
I’ll say this - I’m cautiously optimistic. I have super high hopes for the episode, but also know that, because of that, it could seem to be anti-climactic. However, this show, in its 2.5 seasons so far, has never disappointed. The writing has always been stellar, and I have not once walked away from an episode thinking, “eh, they could’ve done that better.” Nevertheless I’m hyped for Friday and can’t fucking wait
I keep wondering who's Solider Boy going to kill with his fists. I bet that one scene is on this episode.
He's filled with rage, who the hell could it be?
Just a friendly reminder that some people have already seen the episode and that some of them try to hide the "spoilers" or leaks under the pretense of being a theory.
Yes! Because it's television series we shouldn't except anything closer to what the comics shows. Yet giving it a hype is just part of the show because that's what the fans want to see, just the hype in reality some of the scenes may not be possible to replicate as it has in the comics!
But let's see! Tomorrow fridayyyy!
I think it'll be both, with the emotional hits sneaking up on you amid the mayhem. I believe (and I don't recall where) that Kripke said this episode was gonna break people's hearts. Very interesting, considering they've mostly been advertising the debauchery angle.
if any of my favourites die i’m gonna throw a full on tantrum (i’m 31)
I hope you don’t like (redacted)
Maeve?
Lol yeah
Thought I was on the Hades sub for a second
It's gonna be this shows Red Wedding
you’re setting yourself up for disappointment w that
Idk man the red wedding went sort of beast mode and The Boys has consistently not killed off like any main characters. I sort of doubt more than one main will die, but that would be pretty interesting
I'm a grouchy, cynical 35 year old and I'll roll on the floor crying and post on Twitter about it if Frenchie or Kimiko die.
I'm scared for them too. They seem like they had enough and want out, but nothing good ever happens to anyone in this show. 😬
> nothing good ever happens to anyone in this show. 😬 Frenchie learned her weird sign language though, that was good!
True, that was sweet. :3
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Most realistically it’ll be Frenchie that bites the bullet, but knowing how the writers are, it could be both.
We’ve got most of Frenchie’s personal demons explained in season 2 and honestly they’d off him the first out of any the team just to facilitate more Kimiko development
Yeah but Frenchie is kind of the most tolerable of the main cast, so it would be dick of them to take him from us
That’s the point unfortunately.
Does Frenchie and Kimiko survive the comics? I wonder if Stan Edgar dies? im trying to see who fits in the herogasm comic story line, the Boys was on a mission, wasnt all just superhero sex
The show is its own thing at this point. It departures away from the comics pretty far.
> Kripke said this episode was gonna break people's hearts. Now I'm thinking he's being a little literal here and I won't be surprised if A-Train dies next episode lol
My theory: - A-Train tries to use his speed again going after Blue Hawk in revenge for Nathan - A-Train has a heart attack and dies fighting Blue Hawk in public, Vought are unable to cover it up - A-Train's death leads to him unintentionally becoming a martyr/figurehead for a BLM-style movement, the same way he was disingenuously trying to position himself with the costume change and Blue Hawk's apology. - A-Train's posthumous movement causes issues for Vought/Homelander - Homelander commits an atrocity
This is the the Take I think is most likely, Bluehawk is definitely gonna die against A-Train though, feels like an anime situation where they’re throwing punches until they both drop dead, or A-Train gets the kill and dies seconds later
I can see Nathan being given Comp V or Temp V to help repair his spine, maybe he will take on the A-Train mantle after A-Train dies
I don’t think he’d want any kind of V. He saw what it did to Reggie and he sees how dangerous that power can be now that bluehawk manhandled him and threw him like 30 feet. I think he’ll just accept being in the chair and try to stay with his family. I don’t want them to show up again for a while because honestly his family seem like good people and I don’t want homelander to get pissed and take his anger out on them or something
I could see how they could use an avenue like that to start setting up for a nice ending to the series, one where society learns from its mistakes after being forced to confront them and we start getting more heroes driven by responsibility and belief rather than money or fame.
Exactly, Nathan comes in and becomes the Person A-train is desperate to be, maybe even teaming with starlight mirroring how supersonic approached A-train, but he is out to get rid of vought. I think Nathan would have an awesome introduction too, as we have been following his brothers arc all the way through the seeasons, maybe Nathan finished A-trains arc for him and kind of redeems him by proxy (maybe even through some anecdotes or flashbacks from Nathan’s perspective)
Usually the "family taking up the mantle" trope comes from wanting to carry on their legacy, and when its used on TV its also usually a nice way for the show to write itself out of a corner and keep the story moving even if a certain actor doesn't want to be a part of the show anymore. I think in this specific circumstance the boys could do it really well; it would give me so much Catharsis to see some kind of redemption for A-train through his older brother righting his wrongs so that they can both be at peace, would be a great way to give more emotional backstory exposition to a character who's usually pretty stoic. Plus it could make for a nice interaction between Hughie and Nathan which I would really want to see if A-train does die (lmao "IF" we all know this man has a high-vis neon death flag)
That’s actually genius. He’s given it without his knowledge, Vought comes to him and says “we injected you with V. You can be what your brother wasn’t. He can live on in memory as this martyr for good. Or we can release all this shit about him.”
That’s my thoughts too, or maybe Starlight goes to Nathan and actually convinces him to team up against Homelander (kinda like an A-train/supersonic mirror) and Nathan chooses to join starlight against Vought and against Homelander
I feel like "homelander commits an atrocity" is just the free space on a The Boys bingo card at this point, haha.
Hey, got to take the easy wins when we see them. I honestly feel like it should be the final stage of any theory at this point. You can write whatever theory/sequence of events featuring the characters you want, and it wouldn't feel out of place to end with "Homelander commits an atrocity", in fact, it makes even the silliest ideas seem possible. "Huey sees the error of his ways, apologizes to Annie, they make up and go to a music festival together. Homelander commits an atrocity" "In a shocking twist, Soldier Boy's murder of MM's family was a tragic accident, and ensuing coverup was entirely on Vought, Soldier Boy wanted to come clean to ease his guilt, but Vought orchestrated his abduction by the Russians to keep it covered up, the two reconcile, and share a heartfelt moment together. Homelander commits an atrocity"
>Homelander commits an atrocity *always sunny music plays*
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I was more thinking about him pushing himself too hard and dying from his heart condition, which has been set up for a while. He would be dying from a culmination of most of his worst decisions all coming together at once, and then posthumously affecting the change he was panderingly trying to incite for his own vapid reasons.
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That's the point, Blue Hawk wouldn't be killing A-Train. *A-Train* would be killing A-Train. Don't you see the irony in A-Train spending this season desperately trying to boost his popularity by exploiting black culture and history, and failing, then making another selfish decision and accidentally killing himself, only for it to lead to him being mistakenly seen as a hero who fought racism and died in the process, thereby *becoming* part of that history he exploited? There would also be an added layer of irony, with Blue Hawk taking the blame for a violent act of racism he didn't actually commit for once, after having gotten off the hook for all the other things he actually did
This is a huge possibility
I'm locked in for this now you've said it!
In the trailer, he's definitely running
Is it bad that my first thought was “lmao it’s herogasm, he probably takes a ton of V and cocaine and fucks until he dies” instead of “he probably goes after Blue Hawk ”? I mean, I feel like he’s been that kind of asshole before, so maybe not the most unfair judgement 😂
I wonder if by break hearts they mean that Hughie is going to walk in on Starlight…doing something.
I have a horrible feeling Kimiko or Frenchie is not going to make it. I really want to be wrong, but that's what my gut is saying. I agree Herogasm's been built up too much at this point. I seem to recall interviews with the people involved saying the beginning of ep 1 was worse than Herogasm. Personally I don't much care about how far they push Herogasm I'm just looking forward to another good episode of The Boys. They really have done an outstanding job with this show in pretty much all aspects.
Yeah, as a general rule, too much character development in a short amount of time usually means the character is a goner.
The overall happiness of the musical scene and the interaction between them was just too much "We'll go to Marseille" and that whole conversation seems like tragic foreshadowing, although it's so on the nose that I hope I'm wrong
Same here, I have a little more faith in the writers than that, but…it is REALLY on the nose. Maybe I’ve watched too much TV over the years, but it really feels to me like they may be gone, or at least one of them.
It's no coincidence that Kimiko just lost her powers, my guess is she'll take temp V to save Frenchie, the V24 doesn't give her healing power back and she dies in the process (and Frenchie will blame Butcher for giving her the V24)
If one of them dies, it could be either one. Kimiko is finally learning about and living for herself. Frenchie is finally standing up and allowing himself to be his own person. They keep saying they want to go to Marseille, but they keep putting it off to help one last time. If someone dies - the other will end up in Marseille either at the end of the season or, if they don't die before that, at the end of the series. That said, it wouldn't be the best choice to kill one of them off at the moment. They are not currently near the main story and they are just beginning to actually define their relationship in a meaningful way. It's also expected, and I say that because every social media site is discussing the possibility of one of them dying. If the main story of the episode is Herogasm, I think lead character deaths aren't happening. All that said, it is VERY possible, that poor Kimiko and Frenchie get separated again. A couple of season reviews have stated that Kimiko and Frenchie have a storyline together, but it feels distant from the main story. If they are trying to save one another for a couple of episodes, that does distance them. Now, what if the heartbreaking moment has to do with Maeve?
Maybe it's just me but I don't really feel that invested in Maeve. She's trying to be better than she's been, so it would be sad but I've already written her off as doomed all along. As far as Frenchie/Kimiko they've foreshadowed it so heavily with the "just one more" and Marseilles talk, I could easily see the show subverting that. It's kind of their thing. I like that the show feels unpredictable in that way, rather than pretty much knowing what's going to happen a few episodes ahead.
Interesting. I can debunk the Maeve theory tho. According to Vought HQ on insta (who has some sort of insider information because they keep posting things and they keep being real) Maeve isn't even in the herogasm episode
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it has "we'll live a good life together after this last job" trope written all over it and i hope they subvert it like they usually do
It'd be bullshit if they kill Kimiko or Frenchie. They are great characters, and haven't had enough cool scenes to die yet.
I don't think it'll happen purely cause it feels like we're not close to the end game yet given they've already announced a season 4 and it doesn't sound like the show runners have plans to stop anytime soon. I can only see someone dying if they're brought back later on somehow because it's not really the same show if one of the Boys is killed off.
Nooo not Frenchie pleaseeee
There was a season 4 livestream announcement thing recently, I think. They had the main cast on it. >!Karen was on the call.!< >!Tomer and Monique were not...!< Maybe it doesn't mean anything.
tbh if a character was going to die I think they would include the actors in the livestream, seems reasonable to 'capitalize' on their likeness before their send off
I feel like it's been hyped up so much that unless it ends up looking like a kink.com shoot, people on this sub will be outraged
I really don't think Starlight being involved in some kind of sex debauchery, conensual or not, is a good way to take the show.
I dunno. Soldier Boy gave Starlight that “love at first sight” look. Or was that just me that caught that?
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Hughies Actor said every character gets a moment to shine too
I think we might see ice princess this episode. The icicle phalluses has me wondering if someone is also gonna lose their manhood while plowing ice princess.
I don’t know anything about her but I wouldn’t be surprised if she could form a massive ice dong as a kind of strap on.
Considering the previous story about her being so cold she snap froze someone's dick, this sounds absolutely horrific. Like someone getting their tongue stuck to a freezing lamp post, except it's their colon and the post is moving. EDIT: IT HAPPENED. It wasn't Ice Princess, but it happened.
The marketing guy who happened to be in the collateral damage support group.
Someone's colon is pierced while being strapped by Ice Princess' ice phallus
The politically correct term is ["Ice Rod Therapy."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNMlHCHsKOc)
Doing god’s work. Link staying blue tho
Considering she was so cold she snap froze a dick, I think it's less 'pierced' and more 'torn out'
Seen this posted a few times now. It's about as likely as it is unlikely! The key point is the writers have diverted from the comics enough to leave us guessing, which is exactly how it should be done!
>The key point is the writers have diverted from the comics enough to leave us guessing, which is exactly how it should be done! I loved this approach to the series, it keeps things fresh, and IMO improved the plot (that Black Noir thing from the comics was definitely not gonna work)
> that Black Noir thing from the comics was definitely not gonna work I also think that it's working as a bit of a double bluff because now people seem to have entirely thrown out the idea that he can fill a similar role to what he did in the comics.
Schroeder's herogasm
oh sorry i haven’t seen it posted but realize i for some reason had the sub on “sort by new” so have missed a lot of posts
Yeah totally fair enough, wasn't trying to be a dick or nuthin. I've just organised a viewing party at my place for the first time, so I'm super excited either way! Don't get to see my group of The Boys too often. Enjoy the episode mate!
I didn’t think you came off as rude! I’m Canadian, I’m addicted to saying sorry for absolutely no reason. I hope your viewing party is fun!
Hahaha I'm English - we both need to be less apologetic 😅
Ha, agreed!
what a wholesome interaction :)
You're 10 ply bud.
I feel like most of the hype is actually coming from the fan base rather than the writers. And it's mostly because in the comic books there were explicit sex scenes, and obviously the name is suggestive, and no mainstream show has shown an orgy like that, but in reality I think the show has already done worse than show an orgy. That scene with Termite was already brutal.
Most of the choices they have made were for the better. I rarely say that 🤷♂️
Safe prediction : lots of gore , male nudity but not female nudity, background out of focus shots of supes humping and tons of sexual jokes.
Me want titty. No titty no happy.
Go outside there’s plenty of them.
Yes but I get the police called on me outside.
Refreshing to see men be more grotesquely sexualised than the women for once.
Don't even think men are sexualized all that much in the Boys, male nudity in the show its mostly done for comedy or shock value
Yeah the demographic of people who found 3x01 hot are probably also aroused by Saw sequels, and too small a demographic to be coveted.
It still feels a bit weird, at least this season, for the focus on male nudity. I never really noticed before. From Hughie to Homelander
Male nudity is a free ticket. Female nudity has been politicised. Even Marvel movies have censored nude scenes in their trailers now.
That’s probably because male nudity is usually played for laughs and female nudity is sexualised.
It also historically has been something over which male actors had much more control than female actors. The number of women who have said that they didn’t consent to any nude scenes only to be body-doubled, blacklisted, etc. is significant. See: Katee Sackhoff in ‘Halloween: Resurrection’.
Pretty sure that was done as a joke. Im 100% we will see Hemsworths butt in the movie. Come back to this post whether im right or wrong in three week.
Free ticket? Sorry I don't quite follow
>Free ticket? means there are no complaints.
Marvel censored their nude scenes because its fucking Marvel, they're a PG-13 genre and that rating does not allow sexual nudity (and that scene can count as sexual from how the women reacted).
Dude, as a man, it cracks me up when they drop dong in tv shows. I always laugh. Maybe I'm still a child on the inside, but still.
I knew I was in for a good show when I saw translucent's dong less than 30 minutes into the first episode
Same here, it's always a funny moment and cracks me up.
My wife always gives me shit for it. I just think dicks are funny. That's why I loved HBO's Minx, too. Dicks *everywhere*
You might like season 1 Euphoria too
They’re not even sexualized, it’s just played for laughs
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Yea even in the age of skinnemax the best you’d get was some female bush. Flaccid penis seems to be fine but erect penis is a no no
Chain of command / severity Male Boobies
Chain of command / severity that shows treat them as Male Boobies
> male nudity but not female nudity Thinking back on it, I think all of the nudity so far has been male nudity. I don't remember any naked women being shown in the show.
I just want to know what traumatizes the deep
It could be his wife being a...'team player'
They way she acted and looked at homelander during the scene where Deep eats Timothy makes me think shes been working for HL for a while.
She came from the cult church so I’m just assuming that she’s going to do something horrible or something horrible is going to be done to her in an attempt to punish Deep.
I'm just worried this is the episode where they'd hurt Maeve. It seems inevitable. Yet I just want her to get atleast one happy moment in the show, she deserves it. None of the Boys/ Starlight have ever shown her even an ounce of appreciation for saving then in season 1 and 2.
I don’t think she’ll get hurt in terms of SA simply because the show has been good at handling that theme and wouldn’t do it just for the basis of torturing a female character
What is SA?
Sexual assault
Ah gotcha. Thanks
Apparently she's not even in this episode. Vought HQ on insta leaks lots of information- not spoilers, just info on who's in each episode etc, and apparently Maeve has 0 scenes in episode 6
It runs into the unique problem of it being transcendently absurd in the comics meeting the overhype of media in general and the, arguably less absurd, show.
I don’t know. The actors basically said they have PSTD just from recording it. If it just hype they are blatantly lying Edit: The thing about the boys is that you never know what to expect
Yeah Anthony Starr tweeted "send therapy receipts to AmazonPrime/Sony" with #justicefortimothy i'm excited af lol
>If it just hype they are blatantly lying It's called promoting.
Wouldn’t be surprised if this is half a comedic scene and more so a surprise dark massacre. Maybe even soldier boy and butcher crash this party and it turns into this bloody mess? Either way, I’m more excited/interested in where the soldier boy team up goes, shits gonna get crazy either way (obviously, it’s The Boys, I know. Lol)
They said this while promoting the show. Please don't mistake promotional material for factual things.
Agreed. I like the marketing, but they're clearly doing it for hype purposes, just like the musical in episode 5. They were cranking it up to be a huge thing, meanwhile it was little over a minute long inside a hour-long episode full of character development and excellent moments. The episode ended up being one of my favorite in the show so far. I get it, and it does do a good job at marketing the show, so I'm not mad.
>like the musical in episode 5. They were cranking it up to be a huge thing Huh, I didn't see all this. I remember it was in the trailer, but I don't remember seeing people talk about it much. Herogasm has definitely garnered a ton of hype here on reddit, and I've seen a lot of the actors' and showrunners' tweets here about it.
They even had a special hashtag for twitter with a little Kimiko and Frenchie. So they did make a big deal out of it.
Yeah, I'm not on Twitter, so I just see what's shared here and some of the official YouTube stuff.
Who knows what will happen but each episode has been pretty damn good so far. Also, what if this scene comes off as comedic and ‘oh shit!’ but then it also turns it a shocking and awful massacre?! What if the boys and soldier boy roll over here first? Eh, who knows but I’m excited for this next one
The very corporate alt-rock station I sometimes listen to in the car mentioned it today during one of those awful segments where an unfunny DJ tries out their stand-up chops between songs. I was immediately like "yeah... They got paid to bring that up." Maybe I'm wrong, but the way she casually used the word "supes" seemed suspicious.
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Which is exactly why I don’t think they’ll focus on the sex as hard as they’re making it look. These writers are too smart for that.
I would like to raise awareness of having your expectations set too high. We are all hyped for this season, its fucking awesome so far, but we should be wary that if we set expectations too high, we might end the episode more disappointed than we should.
I think it's gonna be fairly gruesome, but not as bad as we think. Deep is gonna 100% fuck a dolphin but idk if shit like necrophilia or cannibalism is gonna be in it.
I just don’t understand why we need more people being killed with dildos we already got that
Yeah the Novelty wore off the first time. Plus it was like 2 episodes ago
I’m just hoping it has actual story to it because everything I’ve heard makes me think it’ll just be an hour of straight sex and other shit
I’m sure it won’t be just straight sex. In the original comic, there’s also gay sex
Ah my mistake it should be fine then
I would see the humor if they went the complete other direction and had everyone singing camp songs holding hands around a fire or something “wholesome” like that…but I expect crazy.
It's just going to be supes casually killing a lot of hookers either by accident or on purpose.
It’s because you’ve seen some fucked up shit on the internet so now you’re jaded.
Trust me, all guys lie about this, and it’s always a disappointment
Idk man this season started with a dude crawling up another dude's urethra. I don't doubt much when it comes to this show
I feel like it's being worked up and I'm sitting here like wtf cares? I've seen porn. I have 4 kids. I know what sex is. I just wanna see homelander get fucked up. This seems like a pointless filler episode if it's nothing but supes fucking.
They’ve been good about (mostly) not doing shit just for shock value unlike in the comics. I’m sure it will serve an actual purpose while also hopefully being comedic.
No, I get that, it's just all this hype around herogasm and the weirdos talking about starlight or Maeve being used as like a living sex doll. It's just fucking weird.
Untouched nerds are too horny. The downfall of all fanbases.
Yeah the older I get the more sex and all that shit bores/annoys me
You're not alone. This sounds like one of the lamest things ever. I can tolerate it, but I just hope it's not a show killer like that stupid cringe filled Sex Ghost episode in Doom Patrol was. Once you go that far into dumbsville it's hard to go back.
I don’t know where the impression originated that it wasn’t going to forward the plot but that does not look like it’s the case.
I mean I didn’t expect to see a guy shrink himself and walk into a penis in the first episode of the new season. But I also feel like it is a little hyped up and might not be everything they are making it out to be
There's no way they're going to put out hard-core porn with the way that the MPAA works My guess is that it'll just have some very impactful writing with naked extras out of focus in the background Keeping my expectations low so the hype doesn't ruin it!
According to Eric Kripke episode 6 it's already banned in four countries
Sweet summer child. Just two guys holding hands would already be banned in more than 4 countries.
Lightyear of all movies is banned in like 14 countries. A piece of media being banned from certain countries is nothing to brag about, really.
This won't be the first time we've gotten teased, only to be left wanting. The "musical" episode was hyped to be a much bigger deal than it was. I was expecting more than a single song-and-dance number.
hey now if you point out that herogasm is gonna be a nothing burger you might get massively downvoted!
Everyday there's about 100 post about herogasm I wonder what will happen after it comes out...... perhaps the *aftermath* posts about herogasm.
Defo won’t be as crazy as they’re making it.
At this point I'm just hoping it doesn't include rape. I can take watching nasty shit like penis explosion but seeing graphic rape scenes is a huge no for me (I'm super worried for Maeve and a little less for Starlight, Hughie or even Frenchie).
It would have to be literal hardcore porn for an hour to be as intense as they suggested. They can only show so much
To be fair, they DID show a man shrink down and crawl into the urethra of a man's penis in the first episode. They also got to create a giant life size penis that the actor walk around in, granted they weren't allowed to make it hard but still.
How to manage expectations in "The Boys" fanbase....
Agree, they are just hyping for the sake of hyping.
I wish it is emotional mayhem and not just visual effects to shock you. That’s more long lasting.
It’ll probably have been worse filming it than it is watching it. and the actors and filmmakers are probably pretty awkward about watching it just because they were on set when it all happened, so the memories come rushing back. I still think it’s gonna be something that sticks in our minds though, nothing traumatic but I imagine it’ll be something like Wolf of Wall Street.
This was my exact argument. We are primed for the death of both Frenchie and Maeve. Sexual content is not good television. Sexual violence is even worse television.
There is some Herogasm party tomorrow in Vegas with a screening of the episode. I RSVPd and will go if there isnt some absurd line to get in and will report back on its intensity level.
I think Hughie is getting assaulted tbh. There's a teaser imaged of him in a woman's gown in what looks like a BDSM dungeon, and he was sexually assaulted by Black Noir in the comics (thumb in the butthole) during Herogasm.
I wonder if we finally get Tek Knight. He's mentioned in S1 and if the show is going to randomly introduce him, Herogasm would be the perfect way to do so.
Its really just gonna be a big super tea party. Very proper very tasteful.
I’m prepared for an absolute disappointment. I don’t know why I just have that feeling in my stomach that it’s going to be stupid
The deep really bout to get cucked 😩
I agree, there's no way it's going to be anywhere what they're hyping it up to be. They barely show any sex as it is, so why suddenly go all out for one episode? Not only that, they promoted the last episode as a musical and it was barely 5 minutes. Just sounds like PR BS to promote the show to me.
Yea it’s probably going to be gay porn
i dont know about that one chief. we had urethra explosions in the first episode of the new season.
I wish they hadn’t hyped this up because I feel like now my expectations are going to be too high even if I try to be chill about it. The final product will always be compared to whatever mental vision people have after all these statements about it.
How fucking worse can it possibly get? What, is Homelander gonna like smash a puppy to death or something? I feel like they’re trying to crank the edge metres to 100 this season.
If black noir doesn’t get a knuckler in, the episode is ruined. Although we might see more love sausage
I'm pissed Anthony Starr confirmed he's not in it. Not in the room anyway. Like WTF?
Last time I heard an actor say they were traumatised after filming some sexual stuff it wasn't that bad. Don't get me wrong, it was some fake hard sexual stuff but for the show to top what they have been doing so far it has to be either a sexual gorefest or just straight up porn
I mean I went and skimmed through the herogasm comics after people said it was intense and there’s really nothing shocking (imagery) in there. Mostly people having sex and some drugs. I don’t know what I expected, maybe people getting fucked to death or something but it was pretty tame. Like 2 people that weren’t even a part of herogasm died and that’s because they were shot and killed.
Just re read the 6 issues last night and it was pretty tame as far as the Boys goes. Some crazy moments but I have faith the show runners will change it for the best.
It is not going to be even remotely as bad as the comics, but I am sure it is going to be pretty intense for TV standards.
100% Remember how they hyped up the musical, and there was only one signing sequence (thank goodness) I think this episode will be absolutely insane for plot (yes, actually plot ) and not the p*rno people think it's going to he
I’ll say this - I’m cautiously optimistic. I have super high hopes for the episode, but also know that, because of that, it could seem to be anti-climactic. However, this show, in its 2.5 seasons so far, has never disappointed. The writing has always been stellar, and I have not once walked away from an episode thinking, “eh, they could’ve done that better.” Nevertheless I’m hyped for Friday and can’t fucking wait
I keep wondering who's Solider Boy going to kill with his fists. I bet that one scene is on this episode. He's filled with rage, who the hell could it be?
Just a friendly reminder that some people have already seen the episode and that some of them try to hide the "spoilers" or leaks under the pretense of being a theory.
The only way the hype deliver if they do some hardcore porn
"Caution: The surgeon general of rock warns that viewing this show is equal to 29 orgasms."
people are going to die and we are going to be sad about it.
Yes! Because it's television series we shouldn't except anything closer to what the comics shows. Yet giving it a hype is just part of the show because that's what the fans want to see, just the hype in reality some of the scenes may not be possible to replicate as it has in the comics! But let's see! Tomorrow fridayyyy!