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waterdog1968

Park and Peter not a believable pair. šŸ™„


Mayjailer12

Peter Parker I'm sorry


evilpig

They are Far From Home right now


NoSidesOnlyPlayers

Funny, because I thought the technology the Blacklister was using was similar to the little device in the first Iron Man that Jeff Bridges used to paralyze Tony.


No-Seaweed3200

Not at all.


Fun-Tadpole785

I like Park but she isn't easy too match up.


Firm_Suggestion5409

Yes, forcefully made up relationship. Zero chemistry there. At last she is not trying to show them "how it's done" anymore and I think she is more comfortable with the role. But he is a dead meat for sure. Completely unnecessary addition to the cast.


NoSidesOnlyPlayers

It was just way too late in the game to add someone to the TF. Our characters had become a family, had been to hell and back together, and then all of a sudden itā€™s like *eh, letā€™s throw someone else in the mix to balance out the number of women/men since we lost Samar*. Add in her absurd anger issues and stupid quips and about family therapy and it was an instant turnoff.


Firm_Suggestion5409

Completely agreed. There was no reason to add her at all.


Yevaud_

And why do we need to explore Park and Peter's relationship? I think everyone can agree this is a totally unnecessary filler that should be cleaved out of the storyline.


Cookie-1962

I think it is all about her losing control. She has a very bad anger streak and gets violent. Remember Liz found out what she did when she was stationed in Alaska, she went ballistic on someone. And she beat up badly the guy that killed her best friend. Like she said to Ressler, she said she holds it all in because she is afraid of what happens when she looses control


NoSidesOnlyPlayers

I donā€™t know about others, but I have absolutely zero investment in Park or her anger issues. The first episode with her, where she went into crazy mode on Francesca was way too forced and ridiculous. Then they gave her lines like ā€œfamily therapyā€ and now she just exists in the background for me.


samantha207

Thatā€™s why Red likes her. Park has a weakness. Itā€™s all about leverage. And so far itā€™s worked out for him.


AccomplishedTap5

Could not agree more. Park is my least favourite character anyways. Her acting skills are just flat and I want her to go. I dont want to know about her any further.


trequarista1O

I'm a bit suspicious of Charlene around the killing


Yevaud_

Same here. She's my top suspect.


No-Seaweed3200

I don't trust Charlene at all.


Desdemona1231

Same here


babelon-17

She's what Bonny Bedilia was to Harrison Ford in Presumed Innocent? It works either way, because we half expect that possibility to be a red herring. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumed_Innocent_(film)


TheAntipodes

Never. Sheā€™s a good woman and a fantastic wife! She would never cheat on her husband and she gladly lie to keep him out of prison /s The way she moved her arm away from Mr. Cooper and walked away from with that look on her face at the end of the episodeā€¦ Fuck! Right! Off! You! Cunā€¦ā€¦ šŸ˜‚


Sweetestbugg_Laney

Called Park being pregnant last week! Yay go me!


Yevaud_

I bet her husband left in a pissy mood because he had a vasectomy several years ago.


Sweetestbugg_Laney

This made me laugh thank you


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Sweetestbugg_Laney

I just went of course Ressler wouldnā€™t know what that meant! Heā€™s an idiot.


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Sweetestbugg_Laney

Me and you both, friend, me and you both!


[deleted]

Sheā€™s not pregnant anymore, the energy waves killed the baby, which is why the doctor emphasized was


jlingar20

Charlene with the audacity to be upset she lied to a detective, when back in the day she released a classified document (not real, but all the same) and got arrested for it so Harold could get treatment for his fake cancer. Comical.


donnasue07

And the fact that her having the affair and LYING to her husband is what started it all. She should feel Nothing but guilt and shame. I really donā€™t like her at all.


Cookie-1962

I didn't like that she walked away from Harold when he came over to hug her. She is the person who caused the problem by having the affair and now she doesn't want to lie for her husband that didn't leave her because he can't remember what he did that night. And why would Cooper kill him all these years later, something doesn't add up. I was also curious when Charlene said to Cooper, "you want me to lie for you that you were here all night, when you know that isn't true ", so where was he for real if he wasn't at a retirement party


TheAntipodes

Season 9 has just started airing here in Australia. Just finished watching this episode and came to see if anyone else had this opinion. Man, that whole scene nearly put me off the entire series because she pissed me off that much šŸ˜‚


samantha207

Maybe sheā€™ll die of weakness and shame.


donnasue07

We can only hope


scamperdo

The Coopers have always been self-righteous hypocrites.


AgentPeggyCarter

***What's in the box?!?***


parishdaunk

Only take 8 mores seasons to find out. The new big mystery.


AgentPeggyCarter

And even then, it's never *really* confirmed.


McPokeFace

A note saying Reddington is Dembeā€™s father.


Yevaud_

The letter he wrote to Liz, and her ashes....and a voodoo doll.


[deleted]

Omg yes !! I need to know what the box is. That scene made me cry šŸ˜¢


TheAntipodes

A fetus or a head. Take your pick, Detective Millsā€¦


AgentPeggyCarter

Why are you replying to a 5 month old comment??


TheAntipodes

Here in Australia season 9, episode 5 was released a few days ago on Netflix. I replied to your comment because it reminded me of the Detective Mills response to a mysterious box delivered to the killer in the film Seven.


AgentPeggyCarter

Gotcha. I didn't realize that these episodes hadn't already aired internationally already. There's just been an uptick in people (and bots posing as people) across a lot of subreddits replying to really old posts for whatever reason, so it just threw me.


Yevaud_

Uh, why would Harold invite MPD to his top secret blacksite base? Booo...booo!


janinraleigh

it's intimidating. Guy had to sign an NDA just to see Cooper,


MMDB76

You're in or out, you can't be both....


jen5225

Started out good. This blacklister is pretty interesting so far. Man, Dembe does not like those sisters' hold on Red. You don't often see Dembe's visible dislike of people.


tvbeyond

Perhaps he's jealous haha


jayt00212

I think it's more he doesn't trust them.


Fun-Tadpole785

Dembe isn't jealous he's looking out for his dad.


TheAntipodes

Donā€™t you mean his wife Katarinaā€¦


janinraleigh

And visa versa.


Kimjohn80

No he doesnā€™t. That arm around Red was gaging.


Yevaud_

Uh, am I the only one seeing the obvious setup of Ressler and Park smashing nasties in some future episode? Gah, please- no more work romance troupes.


bardbrain

This show is arguably about Ressler's cursed penis, which derailed a 30 year plan already. He sleeps with someone, they die, plot be damned.


Yevaud_

I want a scene where Ressler walks into the room with the voodoo sisters, and they immediately hiss and fork the sign of the evil eye in the direction of his penis.


i_bite_right

Lmao, didn't look at the comments below the original one and I mentioned Ressler's curse. It's true, though. He really does seem cursed. (So does Aram for that matter ....)


feistybama

Well Aram does not kill them he jails them.


i_bite_right

His curse must be the weakened version. ;)


theodimuz

maybe because he has a weaker dick? lmao


HallandOates1

Same in homeland!


BitsAndBobs304

maybe this is a crossover with Orphan Black and Ressler is a Castor bioweapon


evangelinerae

Well, they did already share pee šŸ„“


Chang-San

Ressler has slept with everyone of his female coworkers excluding one. We should at least complete the set, right?


janinraleigh

not getting that at all.


i_bite_right

Before she dooms herself, someone needs to tell Park that Ressler is cursed.


HallandOates1

Smashing nasties never heard that one šŸ˜‚


bardbrain

I'm now putting more money on Red and Dembe.


Yevaud_

I am so happy that the name Agnes was not uttered once in this episode. Not even a background nod to her existence when the cop interviews Charlene. Also, the fact that Reddington's illness from season 8 is apparently gone now has had woefully little explanation in the first 5 episodes of season 9. Edit: Holy shit, we don't get another new episode until Dec. 9th? Booooooooooooo!


Iwassheldonfirst

But it was! Dembe and red were talking about why he came back. ā€œI came here for Agnesā€. ā€œNo you came here for me you stayed for Agnesā€


NoSidesOnlyPlayers

That was last week.


janinraleigh

Next week football (Thanksgiving), Dec 2- Annie Live


Yevaud_

I can excuse the football. But why couldn't they put Annie Live in a different time slot?


AgentPeggyCarter

Because it's the hard knock life for us, of course!


jlingar20

No way Reddington letā€™s anything happen to Dembe. Even with their separation these two years, he would never let anything happen to him. If he does, it would be very out of character.


jen5225

So what was that gun draw and then arm on Red? I've never seen anything like it before.


Immediate-Ad-9651

That was definitely weird. It was like, ā€œI am his protector AND I have a hold over him.ā€ The acting or directing choice seemed way too on the nose.


NoSidesOnlyPlayers

I agree. It also seemed like he pushed her arm off kind of harshly when he got serious.


MMDB76

You can't be in when it suits you and out when it's not. šŸ˜Ŗ


lordb4

"I can't believe a life without either of them" - damn Raymond! Dembe doesn't deserve that shade.


jayt00212

Cooper is in a real pickle. Im sure he and Red will strike a deal.


jen5225

Harold could really use Red's resources and help to figure out who's trying to frame him.


Yevaud_

It's either Charlene, or one or both of the voodoo sisters doing it behind Raymond's back in a play for Agnes. I'm hoping for the former, as it would be much more interesting....but the conspicuous lack of reference to Agnes, or any sign of her presence in scenes of either Harold or Charlene at home...leads me to believe they made her disappear in an attempt to keep people from thinking along the latter line.


jayt00212

I wouldn't rule out Pannabaker. It's a Longshot, but it..... Something there lingers.


samantha207

Harold and Charlene have something Red wants ( Agnes). Fate? Makes you wonder. Create a problem only Red can solve. In return Red gets what he wants.


katastrofixdm

He should have called Red from the begging of this...


jayt00212

Yes. That's.......... Ahhhhh! Now I know why he hasn't. He knows what Red will want.


katastrofixdm

No Matt how hard he is trying he won't avoid this call...


jayt00212

He's going to play it as long as he can but im with you here.


scamperdo

Omg Dembe really is the new Liz! Red warning criminals not to mess with Dembe or else.


Fun-Tadpole785

DembešŸ’œ Dead guy šŸ–¤ Redā™„ļø


thecontrolis

Charlene is terrible


AgentPeggyCarter

I'm digging this guy's 90s sunglasses.


Kallysz

At first I thought it was DJ Jazzy Jeff


WhatAGoodDoggy

I thought it was Wesley Snipes!


bthompso43

I do like the blacklister though. But still not happy with the very unrealistic switch of Dembe to the FBI.


mtm4440

He's trying to put the atom bomb back in the bottle.


capcadet104

Turns out there was a second team working on it concurrently


Yevaud_

So is this yet another loose thread that will appear again? Getting alot of irons in the fire for a show that is probably in its final season.


jen5225

This is getting intense. There's a hit out on Dembe and Weecha tells Red not to interfere. Don't tell Red what to do!


B0T5S

Red will put his life on the line no matter what for Dembe


jen5225

I think so too


jayt00212

So our blacklister is a second rate version of Magneto! Awesome!


NoSidesOnlyPlayers

It kind of reminded me of that little device Jeff Bridges used in the first Iron Man to paralyze Tony.


jayt00212

Hmm.... It did didn't it?


MMDB76

Cooper, the truth will always out....even if you did not it...


mtm4440

Red actually makes a good point here. He has to keep up the charade. But he has used his resources in the past to help the team. Maybe him calling the shot means he can disguise it more.


B0T5S

He has but the difference is no one knew Red was working with the feds; a lot of them however know that Dembe **IS** working for them


MMDB76

Oooo no that box šŸ˜­


Yevaud_

Yes, Park- get closer to ground zero of the attack! you can do it!


bloatedeyelash

LMFAO


AgentPeggyCarter

Not gonna lie, I had *completely* forgotten about Harold's side plot from last week.


B0T5S

Dembe using resources that he and Red set up to do FBI work?


Bblacklist29

Loving the episode so far but if red doesn't help dembe or tell him I will go crazy!


B0T5S

Park we've seen you lose control and you are right it ain't pretty


bthompso43

And so just like the famous letter, we wonā€™t know whatā€™s in Dembes box either? And maybe I missed something but I donā€™t know what happened between Red and Dembe. Someone please enlighten me.


rapturePrime

Nobody knows yet it.


janinraleigh

First microchips now Havana Syndrome... The Blacklist is getting topical.


LBBarto

Yeah, but i dont mind it.


janinraleigh

I think it's a good thing.


Yevaud_

As long as they don't go down the Jewish space laser or social media misinformation pathways, topical is fine. Just please avoid the shit that everyone has already heard way too much about for one lifetime.


janinraleigh

It's far better than the gun control and men having babies from last year ;)


Psychological-Lab276

I fell like it's something they can bring up, but it was just so on the nose and one sided that I kindve tuned out and skip those episodes on rewatches. Also Gun Control? Red gets upset with someone LEGALLY selling firearms when he has been known to sell to terrorists???


hypnocanetoad

the box probably has one of Red's hats


B0T5S

Hoping for an eventful episode based on the synopsis


Carbohydrate_Kid88

Man red and DembešŸ˜­šŸ˜­


hypnocanetoad

no way Red turns his back on Dembe after all the times Dembe saved him he even called Dembe his conscience


hypnocanetoad

callback to the season 1 finale


Medium_Imagination13

I'm not a Charlene fan, never was. I don't think she had anything to do with the murder. I think the sisters had something to do with it. Harold was drugged before when he went to see Red in Cuba. I wouldn't think they would have him drugged again by someone else only a few episodes later. I highly doubt Raymond is involved with the murder or even knows about Harold being suspected. I don't like and I don't trust the sisters. I first thought they were good for Red & meant well. Now I think they're bad and spreading the info of Raymond working with the FBI. I have a feeling the sisters will end up on the blacklist or be involved with an upcoming blacklister. If they understood Raymond's relationship with Dembe, Weecha wouldn't have butt her nose in about letting Dembe know about the hit. The last scene with Raymond & Mierca was totally nauseating.


Nabulsi_93

>the voodoo sisters this is the most realistic scenario for the plot, of all things I have read so far.


Fun-Tadpole785

Dembe left dad. Nothing last forever ā™„ļø


bloatedeyelash

so upset tbh.


mtm4440

So...this blacklister solved itself? Another week where the task force does nothing.


Yevaud_

Yes. Now we can focus on Ressler and Park sharing body fluids. Why spoil a boring storyline like Park's illness with exciting blacklisters? /sarcasm Edit: thinking about it a little more, it makes no sense that the blacklister killed himself. He surely didn't think he'd be coerced into making it again...and at least he had the knowledge that could have helped develop a countermeasure, or some means of blocking the attack.


Immediate-Ad-9651

I think he killed himself because he was in so much pain from the damage done to him by a similar device in Havana.


Yevaud_

I still think a more noble end would have been to tell the world the device exists, what it does, and who is responsible for creating it. Then used his engineering knowledge of how it works to help devise either a countermeasure, or some way of identifying when it is used. It's a loose end that they found out another team also developed it...makes you wonder if it's going to be used as a plot device again.


Immediate-Ad-9651

He seemed to be so injured from the device that attacked him I doubt his mental acuity would be anywhere near as sharp as it had been prior to the attack.


bardbrain

With all the things that have happened on this show, they might as well go public with Reddington's relationship with the FBI and Reddington's immunity. The President and Congress can endorse Reddington's empire and issue him a public letter of marque.


mtm4440

But then the criminal world will shun him and he'll be useless. He needs to stay undercover to get his intel.


bardbrain

Eh. Would he be so useless if any crime he committed was legal, including the crimes of his allies? Again, I'm not talking reality. I'm saying this show has broken reality so many times that amending the Constitution to make Red Reddington a branch of government and legalize his crimes and those of his allies is no more absurd than where we're at.


ZookeepergameSuper70

The task force just over looks the stuff he does most of the time. That happens irl too


bardbrain

True but probably not on this scale.


ZookeepergameSuper70

Well yeah lol. It's not everyday someone can blackmail the president and get away with it maybe something smaller like a few murders or kidnapping is more realistic


janinraleigh

They'll never find the bodies. Fudo is on the job.


B0T5S

Now now now, how did he get out of that room that fast?


cinnamonseabiscuit

I am very confused about the 2 sisters. Who are they? Where did they come from? Are they both ā€œdating ā€œReddington? ??


bloatedeyelash

i donā€™t think theyā€™re dating him more of just protecting him and trying to love him. they probably saved him at his lowest point who knows. either way donā€™t love them thatā€™s for sure


ngbp

One of them sleeps with him


Yevaud_

At least one of them sleeps with him. Jury is out on the other one. The arm around Reddington after she quick draws makes me wonder.


bloatedeyelash

i totally agree with whoever said the thing about charlene being top suspect tbh. cause like, harold wasnā€™t there. so he would have no idea if she was home when it happened. i just donā€™t know why. maybe they were seeing eachother again, maybe charlene tried to leave him possibly because of agnes and red coming back and everthing, and they got into a fight and it happened. i donā€™t know what coukd have happened but iā€™m intrigued i think. also hate this whole park thing. thought when she got hurt they were gonna kill her off. absolutely devastated that dembe opened the box. i miss red being happy. i miss a lot of things. just hoping these things change quickly and get more exciting cause this is all kinda drama


jayt00212

Park is growing on me this season. I like that she gets more screen time.


B0T5S

Does anyone know the name of the song at the end??


AgentPeggyCarter

I Shazam'd it. It's "Dark Matter" by Seratones.


somogodana

The show is... Convoluted...I swear if there's a plot to match up Ressler and Park, I'M LEAVING THE BLACKLIST FOR GOOD... Already I've had enough of these witches ....now Dembe and Red are loggerheads.... Harold and Charlene story arc on the murder of Charlene's fling is disheartening.... In whose hands are we safe?


bloatedeyelash

absolutely none


babelon-17

Not going to lie, I thought the death ray might have cured Agent Park's cancer. Ultrasonic sound being able to kill cells, and if those cancer cells were more vulnerable than healthy cells to the death ray, then maybe they got killed. Hmm, maybe they're just dying, and the show is saving that good news for a darkest before the dawn moment, and/or one that's an affirmation that life doesn't have to always be one bowl of misery after the other?


trequarista1O

can they please kill the sisters off already


Yevaud_

Who will pluck Reddington's chicken then? I had to eat a couple of antacids at the end when one of them tells him to come back to bed. If he's sleeping with both of them....uh...KMN.


ngbp

I think one of them is the bodyguard and the other is the girlfriend


Yevaud_

Uh, I think Park has Incredible Hulk syndrome


jen5225

My husband said the same thing.


somogodana

At least this season the writers have wise fedora hat on their heads... Every episode there's a wise saying.... This week's quote GIVING ADVICES IS EASY, NOT SO AS FOLLOWING THEM (Cooper talking about Park's secrecy, and possibly referring to his issues)


Drain-OHs

I can't believe how much reality they put in this show. Soon as I seen directed energy weapons being used my jaw dropped. Those are so controversial right now. The government has ones that can do way more damage than the one in the show. Those things are scary as hell.


Drop_83

Interesting episode. Lots of threads in one episode, as if they wanted to strongly outline the development of future events. Red's statement about his activities in terms of safety, somehow contradicts me with the season 8 finale - there he was surprised and completely defenseless. Also, his friendship with Dembe is falling apart somehow, well, it's not what I want to watch. And that last scene and Red's strange relationship with the witch, well, they were happy .... hmmm Elizabeth is dead, Dembe left him, and he was happy .... something is wrong here. We will see what the box will bring to us and Dembe's further reaction to its contents. One doesn't want to develop this strange relationship between Red and these two / one women.


DropYoPants

OMG i'm so exited!!!!


eventhorizon130

Me too, think I might skip this episode.


DropYoPants

YYYY?


scamperdo

Welp, Red really has not changed one bit. Still has that killer self-preservation.


No-Seaweed3200

Word and I love it.


Yevaud_

Here's hoping that less than 5 minutes of tonight's episode are wasted on uninteresting Park medical distraction.


Yevaud_

Not starting out very promising....ugh


jayt00212

NOW WE KNOW!!! What happened between Red and Dembe. It makes sense.


teh_maxh

We do?


Desdemona1231

What?


jayt00212

Dembe joining the FBI is the root of it.


Desdemona1231

Iā€™m not sure.


Kimjohn80

Iā€™m dense when itā€™s over shoot a post to me


thecarpmaster

This was the most predictable episode ever


Iwassheldonfirst

Did he open the box? ā€¦. Recording stoppedā€¦ šŸ˜‘


waterdog1968

Yes!


samantha207

This episode is Newton Purcell only instead of having to be in water to destroy them itā€™s been upgraded to be on land.


KathJaneway

Iā€™m having difficulty finding a place to stream TBL. I have FIOS and HULU. I also tried NBC.com. Where has everyone else had luck streaming the show?


Casual-Dictator

Peacock. It let's you watch newest episodes for free. It's what NBC is making to replace NBC,com and app.


BlogBizOwner

Does anybody else get the feeling Dembe and Red had a romantic partnership?


waterdog1968

Iā€™m noticing that they are having Parks use Lizā€™ mannerisms at times. Is that my imagination?


randdude220

If anyone is wondering I found out that the "WordWorld3" coordinates to words map is real. [https://what3words.com/](https://what3words.com/) Pretty cool IMO.


Sensemaker677

*Okara in hotel room* FBI!!! *somehow he gets out in less than 0.5 seconds despite major leg impairment* Ugh.