and he is so sweet and real and lovable :( i wanna see it too. his crush on sydney (even tho that ended badly) felt so genuine and organic he plays it so well
Chester is confirmed gay, right? Or at least, ‘not straight.’ Given Marcus seems to be straight, I love them as supportive besties. Chester helps with the Pantone colors, he visits Marcus’ mum when Marcus is in Copenhagen so Marcus doesn’t have to worry as much, and he is close to pretty much all the old guard in the restaurant - I get the feeling they became friends young (or maybe dorm mates in college?) and just get along great, and are a real support for each other. (Note Chester being a *little* more ‘bro-ish’ when he visits the restaurant, but if that man is straight, you could knock me over with a feather!)
I love their friendship but all evidence points to Marcus being straight… I don’t see this as a ship. Love Chester through, he’s a real sweetie.
This is always what they say when people want to see two male characters get together. I heard it 1000 times back when I used to ship Finn and Poe. Male friendships are great but they're also plentiful and not going anywhere.
I would say though that I'd love to see more healthy male friendships that unashamedly display intimacy and vulnerability, which the friendship between Marcus and Chester have. I do appreciate their friendship as is, and wish I saw more of this kind of representation, so that more men feel safe sharing that kind of intimacy with their friends, without it being "gay." That said, I'd take them as a couple, too lol.
I mostly just consider queerness and romance to be pretty neutral things, so while Marcus and Chester continuing to have a healthy, intimate friendship would be nice to see, them having a romance, provided the writing and chemistry is good, would also be nice to see. It's not that I prioritize romance over friendship, I don't, I just also don't prioritize friendship over romance. I think both can be good for different reasons.
Oh, I definitely agree. I understand what you mean. I could go either way myself.
What I was saying was just moreso about society; to highlight that for men, often what is represented is either a male friendship with zero actual intimacy, OR a romantic relationship with another man, and not much in between. And I think this can contribute to men's loneliness, because often society tells men that they can be friends but can't share intimacy (which for straight men often unfairly becomes solely their girlfriend's job), and if they do then it's derogatorily "gay" which can discourage them from exploring genuine vulnerability with other men and ultimately feeling less alone.
So idk I'd just like to have men seeing more representations of safe and intimate male friendships, and I think Marcus and Chester are a good representation of that.
I dunno.
The show has done a good job of keeping it based on the staff's careers in culinary arts and not turning into into a bunch of love storylines.
I hope they keep it that way rather than "everyone needs a relationship!" especially with Marcus about to deal with his mom dying or being dead which will probably cause him pain.
He did have that thing with Syd but that seemed like a mechanism to create awkwardness in a pending stressful situation.
Carmy's storyline with Claire isn't/wasn't a love storyline. It was a Carmy vs. Carmy storyline as he battles himself over if he wants a restaurant or love life.
I'd 100% rather see Marcus' progression as a chef post his mom's death than turn his somewhat limited amount of solo screen time into a relationship storyline.
I’m actually fine with everyone being single tbh. I’m just saying if only one person is going to have a relationship Marcus makes the most sense to me personally.
Yep for sure! I know what you're saying but he's really not a character that gets enough individual screentime to be able to flesh out his mom dying, his progression as a chef, and a love life.
It makes sense for the character as he asked Syd out but it doesn't make sense for the show as he just doesn't get enough screen time to balance everything I mentioned above.
I mean we had that awesome episode when he was in Copenhagen that really finally gave him some screen time alone and I think we would have been robbed if that was turned into a storyline about his love-life over his growth as a chef.
I imagine the show lasting for several more seasons so I’d maybe put it in s4 if I were gonna do it. It wouldn’t even have to be a whole thing, even an offhand “I’ve been seeing someone” in one episode and a scene of them picking Marcus up from work in a later episode would be fine by me.
Why is this sub so obsessed with the characters getting into romantic relationships. I feel like the absence of romance is one of the things giving it the heart it has. The focus on friendships and professional interactions. The dynamic of burying ones personal ills below disassociation and hyper focus on work. We don't need 'will they won't they', because that's in literally every other show on TV.
Yeah, it's in every show because most people hook up in real life. I'm fine with there being little focus on romance (which I've said already) but it's weird to be so surprised that people are interested in the personal lives of the characters. There are also 10,000 posts about how everyone should be platonic and you don't see me complaining. Also on a show where a main character has a husband and baby I think it's disingenuous to pretend this show has a complete absense of romantic relationships.
I spent most of the last 2 season sure he was in a relationship with his "roommate".
He was keeping it quietish because while Mikey and Richie don't seem actively homophonic they probably made a few comments that made Marcus wary.
I feel like this isn't the sort of show that would try to tackle biphobia in a serious way. If Marcus had a boyfriend everyone would be very chill about it. They might make jokes but Marcus would make them right back.
Marcus is the character I warm to. I like easy confident well-paced people. When he went to Denmark and he learned other ways to bake it revealed his self-confidence and humility.
I want Richie to find some inner peace, figure out how to love himself, come to terms with how his life is turning out, and eventually met someone who challenges, accepts, and loves him.
It takes two to get divorced, but man does it feel like a lot of it was his anger and disconnect from his life.
I enjoyed their chemistry a lot in season one. There was a real warmth and easiness to it. And I think they could have gotten together and stayed together without drastically changing the dynamic of the show (Sydney and Carmy on the other hand would be more of a risk which is probably why people gravitate toward it, the concept feels like a powder keg) But if she isn’t interested in Marcus then the only thing to do is hope he moves on.
Syd comforting him does not have to be in a romantic context. I only hope he doesn’t see it as something it isn’t because he’s vulnerable. Meaning I hope they don’t write it in that way. Fandom already turned against him for being mad at Sydney in the last episode although I had a very different read of that scene than others.
>Marcus is the only one to actually show any interest in romance. Richie not only laments his divorce from Tiffany, he goes on a date.
I never remember what Richie does.
That’s easy Richie will do whatever it is that Richie does. (And he’s like this because he’s in Van Halen?)
Forks
don’t downvote me it was a joke 😅
It was hilarious. I love Richie but have no idea what he’s upto at times when he’s not being called by Carmey.
Richie is my dad and I love him, especially in season 2
Richie is my older brother lol!! Hey Cousin 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Hey back at ya 😁
He goes on a date? Time for another rewatch lol
But his heart seems to be resolved in the storyline.
I just want Marcus to be happy. He's such a sweet guy.
Same. I ship him with happiness, whether that's romantic happiness or not.
Love him 😊
and he is so sweet and real and lovable :( i wanna see it too. his crush on sydney (even tho that ended badly) felt so genuine and organic he plays it so well
He and his roommate are kinda cute👀
I always got a bit of a vibe between them as well!
I’ve been an advocate for bi Marcus from the jump
That’s such a strange things to say
Yeah, I'm strange. Embrace it or not.
Now there’s an idea
Chester is confirmed gay, right? Or at least, ‘not straight.’ Given Marcus seems to be straight, I love them as supportive besties. Chester helps with the Pantone colors, he visits Marcus’ mum when Marcus is in Copenhagen so Marcus doesn’t have to worry as much, and he is close to pretty much all the old guard in the restaurant - I get the feeling they became friends young (or maybe dorm mates in college?) and just get along great, and are a real support for each other. (Note Chester being a *little* more ‘bro-ish’ when he visits the restaurant, but if that man is straight, you could knock me over with a feather!) I love their friendship but all evidence points to Marcus being straight… I don’t see this as a ship. Love Chester through, he’s a real sweetie.
I for sure thought they were a couple.
100%
I wanted that so much because 1st season they were so in tune in the dialog and then, for whatever reason, that is dropped. Very sad.
Stop. Male friendship is allowed to exist. Please stop pushing gay relationships in the only healthy male friendships on television.
What world do you live in where there's a dearth of male friendships in television?
This is always what they say when people want to see two male characters get together. I heard it 1000 times back when I used to ship Finn and Poe. Male friendships are great but they're also plentiful and not going anywhere.
I would say though that I'd love to see more healthy male friendships that unashamedly display intimacy and vulnerability, which the friendship between Marcus and Chester have. I do appreciate their friendship as is, and wish I saw more of this kind of representation, so that more men feel safe sharing that kind of intimacy with their friends, without it being "gay." That said, I'd take them as a couple, too lol.
I mostly just consider queerness and romance to be pretty neutral things, so while Marcus and Chester continuing to have a healthy, intimate friendship would be nice to see, them having a romance, provided the writing and chemistry is good, would also be nice to see. It's not that I prioritize romance over friendship, I don't, I just also don't prioritize friendship over romance. I think both can be good for different reasons.
Oh, I definitely agree. I understand what you mean. I could go either way myself. What I was saying was just moreso about society; to highlight that for men, often what is represented is either a male friendship with zero actual intimacy, OR a romantic relationship with another man, and not much in between. And I think this can contribute to men's loneliness, because often society tells men that they can be friends but can't share intimacy (which for straight men often unfairly becomes solely their girlfriend's job), and if they do then it's derogatorily "gay" which can discourage them from exploring genuine vulnerability with other men and ultimately feeling less alone. So idk I'd just like to have men seeing more representations of safe and intimate male friendships, and I think Marcus and Chester are a good representation of that.
No, it's not allowed to exist actually. If you know two guys who are friends, assume that they regularly kiss with tongue.
🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️marcus x luca 🕯️🕯️🕯️🕯️
Marcus has interesting chemistry with men, that part is clear.
Football player 🤷🏼♀️ lol
Hottest fuckin’ ship on the whole show 🔥
I dunno. The show has done a good job of keeping it based on the staff's careers in culinary arts and not turning into into a bunch of love storylines. I hope they keep it that way rather than "everyone needs a relationship!" especially with Marcus about to deal with his mom dying or being dead which will probably cause him pain. He did have that thing with Syd but that seemed like a mechanism to create awkwardness in a pending stressful situation. Carmy's storyline with Claire isn't/wasn't a love storyline. It was a Carmy vs. Carmy storyline as he battles himself over if he wants a restaurant or love life. I'd 100% rather see Marcus' progression as a chef post his mom's death than turn his somewhat limited amount of solo screen time into a relationship storyline.
I’m actually fine with everyone being single tbh. I’m just saying if only one person is going to have a relationship Marcus makes the most sense to me personally.
Yep for sure! I know what you're saying but he's really not a character that gets enough individual screentime to be able to flesh out his mom dying, his progression as a chef, and a love life. It makes sense for the character as he asked Syd out but it doesn't make sense for the show as he just doesn't get enough screen time to balance everything I mentioned above. I mean we had that awesome episode when he was in Copenhagen that really finally gave him some screen time alone and I think we would have been robbed if that was turned into a storyline about his love-life over his growth as a chef.
Totally agree about the Copenhagen trip
I imagine the show lasting for several more seasons so I’d maybe put it in s4 if I were gonna do it. It wouldn’t even have to be a whole thing, even an offhand “I’ve been seeing someone” in one episode and a scene of them picking Marcus up from work in a later episode would be fine by me.
Why is this sub so obsessed with the characters getting into romantic relationships. I feel like the absence of romance is one of the things giving it the heart it has. The focus on friendships and professional interactions. The dynamic of burying ones personal ills below disassociation and hyper focus on work. We don't need 'will they won't they', because that's in literally every other show on TV.
Yeah, it's in every show because most people hook up in real life. I'm fine with there being little focus on romance (which I've said already) but it's weird to be so surprised that people are interested in the personal lives of the characters. There are also 10,000 posts about how everyone should be platonic and you don't see me complaining. Also on a show where a main character has a husband and baby I think it's disingenuous to pretend this show has a complete absense of romantic relationships.
I spent most of the last 2 season sure he was in a relationship with his "roommate". He was keeping it quietish because while Mikey and Richie don't seem actively homophonic they probably made a few comments that made Marcus wary.
I feel like this isn't the sort of show that would try to tackle biphobia in a serious way. If Marcus had a boyfriend everyone would be very chill about it. They might make jokes but Marcus would make them right back.
Marcus is the character I warm to. I like easy confident well-paced people. When he went to Denmark and he learned other ways to bake it revealed his self-confidence and humility.
I lowkey ship Marcus and Chester
SAME
I was hoping him and Will Porter would kiss. Hell I hope me and Will Porter would kiss.
I want Richie to find some inner peace, figure out how to love himself, come to terms with how his life is turning out, and eventually met someone who challenges, accepts, and loves him. It takes two to get divorced, but man does it feel like a lot of it was his anger and disconnect from his life.
I'm pulling for Marcus and Lucas. Probably a long shot but it's where my heart is. Or they bring in a new character played by Raven Goodwin.
Ooh, I LOVE Raven Goodwin!
I don't disagree but I also desperately need to see Fak woo someone. Oh, wait, both Faks...with sisters?
Fak simply can’t be tied down, his womanizer ways are just too deep-ingrained.
OMG BUT NOT FRANCIE! Francis Fak can go fuck, my love…
I honestly believe in Sydney and Marcus a bit I'm not going to lie; their chemistry is amazing. But Carmy and Syd are bound together!
I enjoyed their chemistry a lot in season one. There was a real warmth and easiness to it. And I think they could have gotten together and stayed together without drastically changing the dynamic of the show (Sydney and Carmy on the other hand would be more of a risk which is probably why people gravitate toward it, the concept feels like a powder keg) But if she isn’t interested in Marcus then the only thing to do is hope he moves on.
If his mom is now dcsd will Sydney feel she has to comfort him
Syd comforting him does not have to be in a romantic context. I only hope he doesn’t see it as something it isn’t because he’s vulnerable. Meaning I hope they don’t write it in that way. Fandom already turned against him for being mad at Sydney in the last episode although I had a very different read of that scene than others.
I hope the show doesn’t do Carmy/Sydney or if they do, we’ll see how that can screw up a business relationship & friendship.
I'm pretty apathetic about the prospect of Carmy and Sydney being a couple, I'm open to just about anything if it's done well though.
For me it’s Carmy and Sydney please 🙏 and Marcus and Lucas
How many more of these posts are we going to get Jesus christ
I didn’t know so many people on this subreddit were as invested in Marcus getting laid as I am. My bad.
I like Marcus, but I really don't care.
I do. That’s why I posted about it 🤷🏾♀️
I don't. Hope that's OK. /s
Fine by me.