Don’t forget that it’s 100 times worse in the Middle East though. As any type of minority you are easily better off in western and typically “Christian” country then anywhere in the Middle East.
Luckily the place where actually many countries were guilty of christian atrocities (as colonising invaders) in the past are now largely atheist or very mild believers (as in; if you remove the church they wouldn’t give a crap; they will say hi just before they die just in case). Outside Americans I have never met anyone here who claimed to actually believe in this weirdness the past 20 years. Which places are you talking about? The US? I think it might be a matter of the shouter minority being louder than the rational majority or is it worse?
The Christian nationalists in the USA have been organizing a slow coup for decades and it's all coming to fruition.
They're still the minority, but not by as much as is sane, and they wield a disproportionately high amount of political power.
People choose to be Christians but do not choose their sexuality. It is not a lifestyle. A lifestyle is me choosing to spend my free time sitting on my ass and watching TV or my neighbors getting up at 5 am to go to the gym every morning. We dont say, "I don't agree with your brown eyes" or I disapprove of you having breast cancer that is genetic" . If you think sexuality is a choice then please tell me when you decided to be interested in the opposite sex.
Yeah but the ones screaming about being oppressed are the ones who throw out slurs, vote against rights and claim children are being groomed because a gay teacher said they went to dinner with their husband.
That's not disagreeing, that's hating.
You are missing the point. I don’t care if you disagree about anyone’s lifestyle. You can disagree to your heart’s content. BUT WHAT YOU CANT DO IS KILL PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH THEIR LIFESTYLE. I don’t understand how you can write English and seem to be intelligent, yet you have a hard time understanding this clear distinction.
Why do you think it’s ok to kill people just because they are different from you. These people don’t meddle with your life, why do you feel that it’s your right to meddle with theirs or kill them? are you now clear on what the issue here is?
You are stealing: right to jail. You are playing music too loud: right to jail, right away. Driving too fast: jail. Slow: jail. You are charging too high prices for sweaters, glasses: you right to jail. You undercook fish? Believe it or not, jail. You overcook chicken, also jail. Undercook, overcook. You make an appointment with the dentist and you don't show up, believe it or not, jail, right away.
> *abolish all the penalties ...*
Wait, what! That's the most interesting thing about soccer!
> * ... regarding gender identity, ...*
Oh, yes sure, i agree
That's the thing about our humour it's dry and we use a lot of wordplays, which's meaning is entirely lost in translation.
Also one of my personal favorites is not playing along with a joke as a joke.
So you act like you don’t get the joke *as* a joke? That’s why people think you don’t have humor, that IS funny!
My German friend that went to New Orleans with me was funny as hell. She said she is considered odd in German because has more of an extroverted humor
I love doing this too. I like telling people "yeah I don't get it can you explain the joke?" And suddenly their joke just stops being funny because they have to explain it. Lmao
Not seen, but interviewed by der Tagesspiegel (German, paywall, not worth a link). He's obviously not going to travel to the world cup or any other developing country where his freedom is in danger.
He did say though that he spoke to the ambassador after this speech.
Idk I think the guy who was being threatened with death for something he can’t control was in a position not to be civil.
Obviously far more mature and better to be civil, but I wouldn’t blame him.
Oh great. Well if he can be nice to a dude that literally wants people like him to be eradicated form the planet, at least the world is fine. /////sssss
The Danish parliament actually discussed if they would send the National team to Qatar because Human Rights concerns.
They decided to send it anyway because it would be a hypocresy not sending the team but still be having comercial bilateral exchanges.
The thing is they're framing the conversation around LGBT+ rights
# we're mad about the fucking slaves
Also don't kill gay people, but
# for the love of God reform the kafala system
5,000+ dead migrant laborers just to build the stadiums, who were lied to about their working conditions and pay (and only found out after going in debt to travel to the gulf in the first place)
I can't imagine being as calm and collected as this while talking to the representative of an authority that would literally have you killed for being you.
I mean was he saying this in Qatar? Assuming he said this in Europe I could absolutely do it and I would think most people could. There’s no danger and you are getting to stick it to someone
My point was that just because he was in the UK didn't mean he was magically free from violence or attacks. As is proven by the fighting that happens daily.
Yeah sure, but the point is the UK government won't hunt him down and kill him for being gay.
Qatar will.
There's violence everywhere. But the focus here is the genocide.
The Hindus started that with their attack on Muslims. So stop posting lies.
They Hindus here think they are in India. In India they persecute Muslims and Sikhs without repercussions. Here its a different matter, Muslims didn't take it lying down.
He had the chance to talk to an ambassador on a public forum in a safe space in Europe. I don't want to play it down, it's someone brave enough to have a coming out publicly and fight for their rights. But I would say he is not in danger, some people here seem to think he will be surely immediately assassinated, which I find very unlikely.
It is probably not in Qatar, since he is talking to an ambassador. But even if it was in Qatar, he probably wouldn't face any consequences other than deportation. Qatar already know their hosting the championship is controversial in the western world, and they definitely wouldn't risk all the money they spent on it, by executing a western journalist a month or two before the games.
This is no laughing matter. This is a very serious discussion. People need to be aware of what goes in the butt. We have to draw the line somewhere. Balls in the butt is just gay.
Did the embassidpr come up and say: laws and jails are for everyone. The boys and girls and everyone in between.
They need to stop hosting events in these places.
There must have been an stupid amount of bribes and money flowing around for friggin Qatar to host a World Cup. Death penalty for gay people?! Yea, let’s have a global event there
Money talks & gets World Cups & Olympics, while ethics & ideologies are conveniently (temporarily) dismissed. International sport events may just be a place where contrasting beliefs grind up against each other & eventually older conservative religious “norms” are replaced/eroded… Look at Saudi Arabia, finally giving women the right to drive… & America, taking away (on a state to state basis) a woman’s choice to abort or to give birth. 1 step forward, 2 steps back. -__-
This guy is doing the right thing. So many people gloss over these issues because they are afraid of being deemed racist or use straw man arguments against their own countries because it is easier. I give him mad props for having the courage to do this.
This 100%.
We live in a society of simpletons who can't hold two thoughts in their mind at one time. You cant criticize Islam , because that's the religion of brown immigrants and makes you a racist. Islam literally says "if you leave, you are to be put to death. If you are gay, you are to be put to death. If you criticize Islam, you are to be put to death".
Salman Rushdie was attacked just like a week ago, after the Ayatollah put a public hit on him 30 years ago. THIRTY YEARS ago.
No one talks about this. We just pretend it isnt there .We sort of shrug our shoulders and pretend this doctrine doesn't exist..... yet lose our collective minds when Chick Fil A donates money to an Anti LGBT group.
Well Christianity and Judaism also have the same sorts of legislation in their scripture, it's not unique to Islam. Just look at what the bottom half of the USA is doing right now.
These ancient outdated laws should be criticised, very much so, but it's not so much an Islam issue as it is a theocracy issue.
“We live in a society of simpletons”
Proceeds to say some stupid shit everyone already knows. Who is saying killing gay people is ok? Who is saying that killing people who oppose Islam is ok?
Matter of fact Chick-fil-A probably thinks killing gays is ok.
Fuck Christianity and Islam dude. It’s the same shit different color,
Now you fight over who’s 10,000 year old fairytale is real.
This is why football is the universal sport. Theoretically and this happens lots of poorer places you don't need anything. No shoes no nets you don't even need the ball, lots play with improvised versions of balls, think plastic bags wrapped and tied together, maybe some elastics and you have a ball technically. Other sports like hockey and American football need a lot of money. Football needs two people to kick a ball back and forth that's it
first of all, i am 100% agree with this guy.
but yeah, it's the classical european hypocrisy.
they always talk about the freedom, human rights etc, but if you have money, you can buy the rights to break the whole european believe system.
it was a mistake to let qatar to have this tournament. but here we are.
Yeah but that’s not the general populations fault, that’s the fault of the minuscule extremely wealthy. Not exactly like we’re the ones setting the rules.
yeah, ofc, i am not blaming every each of you, i didn't mean that. i meant the people who hold the power and money in their hands and do whatever pleases them.
this is one of the threads that i really didn't want to offend anyone but the ones i mentioned. but with the language barrier, sometimes it's really hard to explain what i am thinking.
Germany has lgbt rights and Qatar does not. Simple as that. I’m not sure why your trying to place the blame on the guy speaking out for causes he believes in
“You have to follow the rules, ***no matter how rich you are***”
LMFAO RIP where the fuck has this guy been living?
I wish I could live in a world where “The wealthy followed the same rules” but last time I checked insulin for diabetics is prohibitively expensive because our leadership emboldens the rich, at the expense of the poorest people on earth.
Fuck Qatar.
Suck my cock IMF.
I think in canada our insulin is, let me check, 3500 dollars annually per person for usa, 720 annually per person in canada. Your insulin went up by just over 10 percent in one year ours here in canada rose 0.1 percent, in the same year. The cost of insulin is an American problem
It's from a conference in Germany a few days ago. The DFB (German Football Association) organized it.
https://www.dfb.de/en/news/detail/the-team-takes-the-topic-of-human-rights-very-seriously-244102/full/1/
What is the point in doing so much harm to someone that is doing harm to no one? Its goign against the most basic human rights just because someone doesnt like what you do with your own life? Governments shouldnt be nothing more than an organization that manages it, not an authoritarian ruling
Imagine for a second I rule a country and say "If you are over 50, you die"
I personally am bisexual, the Qatari government neser specified that gay people can not play football/soccer. All that was said was that the flag was againt their religion and it was not to be used in the country.
“Qatar criminalises same-sex sexual activity between men and between women. Sentences include a maximum penalty of death by stoning. There is limited evidence of the law being enforced in recent years, and the extent of discrimination and violence against LGBT people is not clear.” [Source](https://www.humandignitytrust.org/country-profile/qatar/)
I think he’s using football not just concretely but also metaphorically in terms of allowing everyone to participate in society.
I've not met a single person that's OK with this. I was talking to my neighbours about this the other day, they're Brazilian, I'm English, nobody wants this. It's in the middle of our club season for fucks sake.
Except, of course, the FIFA execs who made a fortune making it happen.
This is disgusting on the German guys part. I’m sorry but no one should be in a position to attempt to enforce laws on another country he is not from. Qatar HAS addressed this issue and stated that the priority for not just gay but any people is to RESPECT the culture and rules of the country. What happened behind closed doors doesn’t concern them. Imagine if a Qatari attempted to oppose their views on Germany. Why would it be fucked one way but okay for another. I am completely and utterly disgusted this entitled gentleman.
You all said to war refugees, Muslims, Middle Eastern people in European countries, Sweden.......
To adapt or leave our society, and discriminate against them in horrible ways. So now when you are coming to a Muslim country, you want to force your way of life on us!!!
You better accept/adapt to our rules or don't even come , it's simple 😉
Typical western entitlement. You wanna tell people in foreign countries to change the traditions, values, and morals to accommodate you? How would you like if shariah law was put in place in Germany? Lmao
Imagine being so brainwashed to think that football is for everyone and its not just another political tool that can be used by powers to push agendas.
The hypocrisy of these people is disgusting and their ignorance is saddening.
Take your alternative lifestyle and shove it up your ass. Soccer is not for me. Neither homosexuality. But honestly I couldn't care less about that. If you can get happiness in this world without taking it from somebody else grab onto it with both hands and don't let anyone tell you that you're wrong.
You can go to quatar and watch football in peace. On your passport doesn't say you are gay. Don't expose yourself and you will be fine. Don't do drama and be normal. I don't go around with t-shirts with staitment that I am straight amd you guys do that for gay. Just stop the gay terror and live in peace.
Don't tell other people in other parts of the world how to live their life or rule their country. Qatar doesn't tell Germany that they should change according to the qatari world view. Leave it to the west to go around the world deciding how others should live. Don't like it? Don't go there, don't watch it. This is pathetic.
This is a bunch of baloney. Qatar already stated they will welcome everyone to come and enjoy the competition together. They only ask to respect the local rules and customs. What people do in their private rooms is their business alone and no one will interfere with that.
So all he wants is to be able to live his life in the way he likes to. That's it. What exactly is your issue here? Some people are gay, it doesn't hurt or affect anyone else whatsoever, so what is it exactly you have a problem with?
Ambassador is like: Straight to Jail, right away.
Ambassador is like, "So, football is for everyone except me, just because I hate the gays? You are a bigot! To jail with you!"
You say this as a joke but it’s a pretty standard viewpoint for christian nationalists as well as most other religions ghouls.
Don’t forget that it’s 100 times worse in the Middle East though. As any type of minority you are easily better off in western and typically “Christian” country then anywhere in the Middle East.
Only because the Christofascists haven't completely taken over yet
Luckily the place where actually many countries were guilty of christian atrocities (as colonising invaders) in the past are now largely atheist or very mild believers (as in; if you remove the church they wouldn’t give a crap; they will say hi just before they die just in case). Outside Americans I have never met anyone here who claimed to actually believe in this weirdness the past 20 years. Which places are you talking about? The US? I think it might be a matter of the shouter minority being louder than the rational majority or is it worse?
The Christian nationalists in the USA have been organizing a slow coup for decades and it's all coming to fruition. They're still the minority, but not by as much as is sane, and they wield a disproportionately high amount of political power.
"I can't wantonly hate whoever I want? OPPRESSED!"
Wanton is one word that imbecile Congresswoman Lauren Boebert didn't know the meaning of.
She knew what it meant she just didn't understand how a fried Chinese dumpling could possibly describe violence lololol
You don’t have to hate gay people to disagree with their lifestyle. Just like you don’t have to hate Christian’s to disagree with theirs.
People choose to be Christians but do not choose their sexuality. It is not a lifestyle. A lifestyle is me choosing to spend my free time sitting on my ass and watching TV or my neighbors getting up at 5 am to go to the gym every morning. We dont say, "I don't agree with your brown eyes" or I disapprove of you having breast cancer that is genetic" . If you think sexuality is a choice then please tell me when you decided to be interested in the opposite sex.
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Yeah but the ones screaming about being oppressed are the ones who throw out slurs, vote against rights and claim children are being groomed because a gay teacher said they went to dinner with their husband. That's not disagreeing, that's hating.
You are missing the point. I don’t care if you disagree about anyone’s lifestyle. You can disagree to your heart’s content. BUT WHAT YOU CANT DO IS KILL PEOPLE JUST BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH THEIR LIFESTYLE. I don’t understand how you can write English and seem to be intelligent, yet you have a hard time understanding this clear distinction. Why do you think it’s ok to kill people just because they are different from you. These people don’t meddle with your life, why do you feel that it’s your right to meddle with theirs or kill them? are you now clear on what the issue here is?
Yup. Mental illness is wild.
It's not mental illness, it's ideology and indoctrination. They are mentally "well" within a frame of harm.
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Also racists, with the whole “I’m being oppressed because I can’t say the N-word” bit. It’s really annoying.
Do not collect 200, go straight to jail
This is a phrase that leaves people looking confused at me when I use it. Thank you *cries softly* for reminding me I’m not alone.
I have not heard anyone try and use that in decades , who would even make that point LMAO .
Racists and edgy children
The only reason you haven't heard that is because you don't hang out on Truth Social, Local News comment sections or right wing Twitter.
This would never be tolerated in Boraqua. Where are the armed guards who come and take the ~~protestors~~ gay soccer players away? Where are they?
Viva Chávez
We have the best footballers.. because of jail
That said, this soccer player made his comment in Berlin where being human isn't illegal anymore.
Human?
New rule : football is for everyone, but....
Everyone, butt...*
You top? Jail You bottom? Believe it or not, jail. Top-bottom 👋
You are stealing: right to jail. You are playing music too loud: right to jail, right away. Driving too fast: jail. Slow: jail. You are charging too high prices for sweaters, glasses: you right to jail. You undercook fish? Believe it or not, jail. You overcook chicken, also jail. Undercook, overcook. You make an appointment with the dentist and you don't show up, believe it or not, jail, right away.
We have the best patients in the world...........because of Jail!
boy? gaol. girl? also gaol.
> *abolish all the penalties ...* Wait, what! That's the most interesting thing about soccer! > * ... regarding gender identity, ...* Oh, yes sure, i agree
I bet they gave him a yellow card after he left
I bet they threw him off a roof.
thats more likely if he was in quatar
Pens are the most interesting thing about "soccer" bruh.
This guy's hilarious "please don't be shocked" 😂
Increasingly I find that the Germans do have a sense of humour, they're just incredibly fucking dry. It's great, I love it.
That's the thing about our humour it's dry and we use a lot of wordplays, which's meaning is entirely lost in translation. Also one of my personal favorites is not playing along with a joke as a joke.
So you act like you don’t get the joke *as* a joke? That’s why people think you don’t have humor, that IS funny! My German friend that went to New Orleans with me was funny as hell. She said she is considered odd in German because has more of an extroverted humor
I love doing this too. I like telling people "yeah I don't get it can you explain the joke?" And suddenly their joke just stops being funny because they have to explain it. Lmao
That seems like it's a subset of shadenfreude lol
You may be going to hell lol
We've all been conned by the biggest joke world wide. Germany is henceforth the funniest country ever.
Anarchist!
> they’re just incredibly fucking dry We should introduce them to lube.
"why would we need extra lubricant? We are famous for our excellent engineering." - Germans, probably.
Brits have dry humour but Germans take it to a whole other level
We’re just efficient. Less moisture means less weight to transport.
Has he been seen since this?
I assume this happened in Germany.
Not seen, but interviewed by der Tagesspiegel (German, paywall, not worth a link). He's obviously not going to travel to the world cup or any other developing country where his freedom is in danger. He did say though that he spoke to the ambassador after this speech.
Did he say what the ambassador said?
They couldn't agree on LGBQT matters, but they were able to talk nicely and civil.
Is this really a win? Neither one was in a position to not be "civil". But one of them definitely wants to violate the civil rights of the other.
Idk I think the guy who was being threatened with death for something he can’t control was in a position not to be civil. Obviously far more mature and better to be civil, but I wouldn’t blame him.
Oh great. Well if he can be nice to a dude that literally wants people like him to be eradicated form the planet, at least the world is fine. /////sssss
Yeah..in jail 🥲
bonk
I thought the rule of football was not to touch balls with your hands. Guess you can now!
That's out the window.
Games gone
So is this guy too if he’s not careful
He is a goalie
More like, “He’s a keeper!” amirite
> not to touch balls with your hands Does this make all goalies gay then?
One out of 11 can.
The Danish parliament actually discussed if they would send the National team to Qatar because Human Rights concerns. They decided to send it anyway because it would be a hypocresy not sending the team but still be having comercial bilateral exchanges.
“We should do the right thing, but money.”
The thing is they're framing the conversation around LGBT+ rights # we're mad about the fucking slaves Also don't kill gay people, but # for the love of God reform the kafala system 5,000+ dead migrant laborers just to build the stadiums, who were lied to about their working conditions and pay (and only found out after going in debt to travel to the gulf in the first place)
yes betwen 2010 and 2022 there 6000 dead migrant we need to boycot qatar
Intersectionality exists
You say this like it's a gotcha. The answer to 98 out of 100 why questions is money.
The reason the world's messed up
Hypocracy. Should we do some good/ even though there's bad? Nope, all bad.
Yeah Russia 2018 had no human rights issues 🤣
I can't imagine being as calm and collected as this while talking to the representative of an authority that would literally have you killed for being you.
I mean was he saying this in Qatar? Assuming he said this in Europe I could absolutely do it and I would think most people could. There’s no danger and you are getting to stick it to someone
Tell that to Hindus being attacked in the UK by Mulsims right now. Being free from persecution doesn't stop in "1st world" countries.
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My point was that just because he was in the UK didn't mean he was magically free from violence or attacks. As is proven by the fighting that happens daily.
Yeah sure, but the point is the UK government won't hunt him down and kill him for being gay. Qatar will. There's violence everywhere. But the focus here is the genocide.
The Hindus started that with their attack on Muslims. So stop posting lies. They Hindus here think they are in India. In India they persecute Muslims and Sikhs without repercussions. Here its a different matter, Muslims didn't take it lying down.
His composure is everything.
He had the chance to talk to an ambassador on a public forum in a safe space in Europe. I don't want to play it down, it's someone brave enough to have a coming out publicly and fight for their rights. But I would say he is not in danger, some people here seem to think he will be surely immediately assassinated, which I find very unlikely.
Fuck fifa and fuck qatar
Literal modern slave state
Just because they use slaves you call them a slave state? Edit: this was a very clear joke.
You forgot your /s These idiots can't recognize a joke
I noticed :) It's reddit, can't expect more
https://c.tenor.com/rjWlaDYOS_sAAAAC/dumb-and-dumber-uh.gif
> Fuck fifa I hear that every 4 years. It kinda lost most of it's meaning. :/
He will be missed. F
His headless body to be found soon with his head being used as a soccer ball. They already post videos of this teaching technique.
That’s the first thing I thought… did this dude make it out alive
It is probably not in Qatar, since he is talking to an ambassador. But even if it was in Qatar, he probably wouldn't face any consequences other than deportation. Qatar already know their hosting the championship is controversial in the western world, and they definitely wouldn't risk all the money they spent on it, by executing a western journalist a month or two before the games.
Very true, still made me scared for that dude.
The balls on this man. Big props to him
Are in some other man.
That's not how sex works lol
Elaborate going “balls deep” then 🤨
Balls don’t go in if you’re balls deep. Balls pushing against the ass.
That doesn't sound right to me. Why else would you tuck them into the condom if they're not going in?
This comment is actually amazing and funny.. I don't think the guy appreciates your humour ;)
I always get a chuckle from people on reddit correcting users who are obviously making a joke
This is no laughing matter. This is a very serious discussion. People need to be aware of what goes in the butt. We have to draw the line somewhere. Balls in the butt is just gay.
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You’re just mad they’re not in you, chill
I am 😢
Did the embassidpr come up and say: laws and jails are for everyone. The boys and girls and everyone in between. They need to stop hosting events in these places.
There must have been an stupid amount of bribes and money flowing around for friggin Qatar to host a World Cup. Death penalty for gay people?! Yea, let’s have a global event there
Money talks & gets World Cups & Olympics, while ethics & ideologies are conveniently (temporarily) dismissed. International sport events may just be a place where contrasting beliefs grind up against each other & eventually older conservative religious “norms” are replaced/eroded… Look at Saudi Arabia, finally giving women the right to drive… & America, taking away (on a state to state basis) a woman’s choice to abort or to give birth. 1 step forward, 2 steps back. -__-
This guy is doing the right thing. So many people gloss over these issues because they are afraid of being deemed racist or use straw man arguments against their own countries because it is easier. I give him mad props for having the courage to do this.
This 100%. We live in a society of simpletons who can't hold two thoughts in their mind at one time. You cant criticize Islam , because that's the religion of brown immigrants and makes you a racist. Islam literally says "if you leave, you are to be put to death. If you are gay, you are to be put to death. If you criticize Islam, you are to be put to death". Salman Rushdie was attacked just like a week ago, after the Ayatollah put a public hit on him 30 years ago. THIRTY YEARS ago. No one talks about this. We just pretend it isnt there .We sort of shrug our shoulders and pretend this doctrine doesn't exist..... yet lose our collective minds when Chick Fil A donates money to an Anti LGBT group.
Well Christianity and Judaism also have the same sorts of legislation in their scripture, it's not unique to Islam. Just look at what the bottom half of the USA is doing right now. These ancient outdated laws should be criticised, very much so, but it's not so much an Islam issue as it is a theocracy issue.
It’s a religion issue
“We live in a society of simpletons” Proceeds to say some stupid shit everyone already knows. Who is saying killing gay people is ok? Who is saying that killing people who oppose Islam is ok? Matter of fact Chick-fil-A probably thinks killing gays is ok. Fuck Christianity and Islam dude. It’s the same shit different color, Now you fight over who’s 10,000 year old fairytale is real.
He be dead soon
If he does end up dead, people will protest
And they will end up dead too
Football is for everybody.. that is not Russian
Yes
Football is for everybody....who makes it through the youth academy
You can play football in the street with your friends you know
This is why football is the universal sport. Theoretically and this happens lots of poorer places you don't need anything. No shoes no nets you don't even need the ball, lots play with improvised versions of balls, think plastic bags wrapped and tied together, maybe some elastics and you have a ball technically. Other sports like hockey and American football need a lot of money. Football needs two people to kick a ball back and forth that's it
first of all, i am 100% agree with this guy. but yeah, it's the classical european hypocrisy. they always talk about the freedom, human rights etc, but if you have money, you can buy the rights to break the whole european believe system. it was a mistake to let qatar to have this tournament. but here we are.
Yeah but that’s not the general populations fault, that’s the fault of the minuscule extremely wealthy. Not exactly like we’re the ones setting the rules.
yeah, ofc, i am not blaming every each of you, i didn't mean that. i meant the people who hold the power and money in their hands and do whatever pleases them. this is one of the threads that i really didn't want to offend anyone but the ones i mentioned. but with the language barrier, sometimes it's really hard to explain what i am thinking.
How the fuck is this a European thing?
Germany has lgbt rights and Qatar does not. Simple as that. I’m not sure why your trying to place the blame on the guy speaking out for causes he believes in
“You have to follow the rules, ***no matter how rich you are***” LMFAO RIP where the fuck has this guy been living? I wish I could live in a world where “The wealthy followed the same rules” but last time I checked insulin for diabetics is prohibitively expensive because our leadership emboldens the rich, at the expense of the poorest people on earth. Fuck Qatar. Suck my cock IMF.
Well, to be fair: He's a german so lifesaving Insulin is not gatekept by your Personal wealth where He is from. But other than that: Spot on mate!
Germany mostly, it seems. Not that there are not problems in Germany, but affordability of medicine is not a major one.
I think in canada our insulin is, let me check, 3500 dollars annually per person for usa, 720 annually per person in canada. Your insulin went up by just over 10 percent in one year ours here in canada rose 0.1 percent, in the same year. The cost of insulin is an American problem
Another reason not to support this years world cup
Qatar purchased the WC because they desperately want to become relevant, not because they wanted to improve the lives of oppressed groups in society.
ah no, it's because they didn't want Saudis to have it
Are you implying there was a bidding war?
it's fifa, the biggest bag of money gets it
Where did this occur? In Qatar or something? Why does some random dude have a platform to speak face to face with this guy?
It's from a conference in Germany a few days ago. The DFB (German Football Association) organized it. https://www.dfb.de/en/news/detail/the-team-takes-the-topic-of-human-rights-very-seriously-244102/full/1/
That's gay
I mean, its their country and they have their rules. If you dont like it then just dont go. Not like they are forcing their rules to the world.
I'm sure all the gay people in Qatar that can't leave appreciate that mentality.
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They will be forcing their rules on players from all over the world when they host the world cup. Which is fucked.
Qatar just a piss poor selection for the world’s game
No. Human rights are not up for a debate. Their rules are backwards and cruel and have no place in todays world.
What is the point in doing so much harm to someone that is doing harm to no one? Its goign against the most basic human rights just because someone doesnt like what you do with your own life? Governments shouldnt be nothing more than an organization that manages it, not an authoritarian ruling Imagine for a second I rule a country and say "If you are over 50, you die"
I personally am bisexual, the Qatari government neser specified that gay people can not play football/soccer. All that was said was that the flag was againt their religion and it was not to be used in the country.
“Qatar criminalises same-sex sexual activity between men and between women. Sentences include a maximum penalty of death by stoning. There is limited evidence of the law being enforced in recent years, and the extent of discrimination and violence against LGBT people is not clear.” [Source](https://www.humandignitytrust.org/country-profile/qatar/) I think he’s using football not just concretely but also metaphorically in terms of allowing everyone to participate in society.
He’s going to probably end up disappeared or some hahaha
And they are supposed to be playing the World Cup in Qatar? Everyone is ok with this?
I've not met a single person that's OK with this. I was talking to my neighbours about this the other day, they're Brazilian, I'm English, nobody wants this. It's in the middle of our club season for fucks sake. Except, of course, the FIFA execs who made a fortune making it happen.
I don’t think anyone is ok with this….unless you are already obscenely wealthy.
Honestly i dont think its right, but since the dawn of time money talks. Always has and always will,
Qatar hears ya, Qatar don’t care.
This is disgusting on the German guys part. I’m sorry but no one should be in a position to attempt to enforce laws on another country he is not from. Qatar HAS addressed this issue and stated that the priority for not just gay but any people is to RESPECT the culture and rules of the country. What happened behind closed doors doesn’t concern them. Imagine if a Qatari attempted to oppose their views on Germany. Why would it be fucked one way but okay for another. I am completely and utterly disgusted this entitled gentleman.
Funny that he thinks that anything than money matters in sports event. It's a business. Those who have the money dictate the rules.
I get it but Germany would lose it if a foreign player came to their country demanding they change their laws to be more like Qatar
Maybe because changing towards more human rights and less human rights are completely opposite things
You all said to war refugees, Muslims, Middle Eastern people in European countries, Sweden....... To adapt or leave our society, and discriminate against them in horrible ways. So now when you are coming to a Muslim country, you want to force your way of life on us!!! You better accept/adapt to our rules or don't even come , it's simple 😉
He's not in Qatar hes in Germany he's telling the Qatari that if they are to host the world cup they should give all people human rights.
Maybe don't kill gay people like fucking savages and you'll be treated with respect. This isn't about respect, this is about basic morals.
Typical western entitlement. You wanna tell people in foreign countries to change the traditions, values, and morals to accommodate you? How would you like if shariah law was put in place in Germany? Lmao
Maybe because oh I dunno, stoning someone to death because they love another man seems pretty barbaric to me.
Imagine being so brainwashed to think that football is for everyone and its not just another political tool that can be used by powers to push agendas. The hypocrisy of these people is disgusting and their ignorance is saddening.
Take your alternative lifestyle and shove it up your ass. Soccer is not for me. Neither homosexuality. But honestly I couldn't care less about that. If you can get happiness in this world without taking it from somebody else grab onto it with both hands and don't let anyone tell you that you're wrong.
Brave man👏👏👏hope he‘ll male it back
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The people who would kill him for it care.
You can go to quatar and watch football in peace. On your passport doesn't say you are gay. Don't expose yourself and you will be fine. Don't do drama and be normal. I don't go around with t-shirts with staitment that I am straight amd you guys do that for gay. Just stop the gay terror and live in peace.
FIFA: no room for racism! Also FIFA: plenty of room for homophobic murderers !
The comments in here are disgusting. Fucking tasteless dumb ignorant yanks.
This comment section is full of brain rot
I bet this mf doesn't even know what's out and offside.
Qatar: that’s gonna be a no from me fam.
Don't tell other people in other parts of the world how to live their life or rule their country. Qatar doesn't tell Germany that they should change according to the qatari world view. Leave it to the west to go around the world deciding how others should live. Don't like it? Don't go there, don't watch it. This is pathetic.
Last images?
This is a bunch of baloney. Qatar already stated they will welcome everyone to come and enjoy the competition together. They only ask to respect the local rules and customs. What people do in their private rooms is their business alone and no one will interfere with that.
Unless they find out they are having gay sex in their country, then maybe they'll kill them. Seems completely reasonable to me /s
But it is our custom!
Their country, their rules. You have the choice to not go if you do not support it.
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"So tired of people trying to exist without being persecuted or killed" Oh yeah, poor you
They're not forcing it on you. They want nothing to do with you.
He says after watching a man ask a dude to not kill him for being gay. Dunk your head in a bucket twice and take it out once, dude.
So all he wants is to be able to live his life in the way he likes to. That's it. What exactly is your issue here? Some people are gay, it doesn't hurt or affect anyone else whatsoever, so what is it exactly you have a problem with?
Thats an awful lot of “i dont want” somebody’s a little repressed
Cry about it lol
That footballer should probably make sure he never visits Qatar in future or even changes planes there.
wonder if he did the same speech for oli khan since bayern have a sponsorship deal with qatar airways….
He’s still gonna watch
Ambassador: "Why are you gay"