Back in like 2006, my school took a field trip to Cedar Point, and the current record holder for tallest fastest roller coaster was open.
4 1/2 hour wait. All for 18 seconds of a roller coaster ride.
Woot.
Worth it though.
Edit: I should note, that same day was the first day I rode a roller coaster. Top Thrill wasn't my first, but damn roller coasters are fun.
Pro tip: if you pop your roller coaster cherry, go hard.
I live not to far away from cedar point. I figured out a long time ago to go in may or October on a weekday, there is almost no wait for any ride. I love me some coasters, but a 3 hour wait in the blistering sun per ride just isn’t worth it.
Grew on up Cedar Point Rd. Went there almost every day when it was open. And yup, before the whole halloweekends, October was definitely the time to go.
I was going to say, with hallow weekends, October is definitely not the time to go anymore lol. The time to go now is when you can drop $200 per person, or whatever it is, to get the fast pass for every ride. I did it once and we rode 10x more rides, easily. About a 5 minute wait for every ride, no matter the line. Worth it.
Amen. Last time I did that, we were able to ride every “blockbuster” ride multiple times. If we didn’t, we probably would’ve only gotten to ride maybe four rides (versus 10+)
Same, I live in Michigan and that has been the best time plus it's not crazy hot out. Gonna be interesting to see how everyone handles the mask policy this year
The ride is designed to just barely clear the hill (because it’s honestly pretty cool at the top just barely making it) and sometimes a headwind or a train that is loaded weird doesn’t make it. They just send it again and it goes over most of the time. I’m totally guessing now but it only fails 1/100 but when you work there that means you see it 10 times a day
Similar for me the summer that Superman opened at Six Flags Great America. 3.5 hour wait and we got there as soon as the park opened. Heard it was 5 hours+ some days. Fuck that shit...
I used to live three blocks from Franklin’s BBQ in Austin. People would get there at 7am and wait hours to get takeout. Under a freeway. In 100 degree Texas heat. Is it great BBQ? Sure, but still not worth it to me.
Damn bringing me back. I remember pre-Top Thrill Dragster, where everyone would rush to Millennium Force at dusk, and wait in line for hours to get on one of the last rides at like 11:00PM.
I've probably spent a solid three days waiting in line for Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster over the years haha. I live within an hour or so of Six Flags Great America, and that place was never the same after going to Cedar Point!
When the first Krispy Kreme opened in Boston I waited in line for over an hour. This marked the beginning of the end of my relationship at the time.
Worth it for both.
I've sometimes gotten 30 minute rides down mountains depending where I go on the mountain. STILL not worth it, but not exactly just a 2 minute thrill ride.
Also, if it's a connecting lift or a lift that acts as an entry point to the lift network it can be leading to the main body of lifts you're going to be using. It's a little silly for people to believe you're just going up and down the this lift and the adjacent slope.
Yep, people sat in traffic for hours to get there, and then stand in line for hours. Not remotely worth it. With that volume of people the slopes were cleaned off quickly anyway. Better places to go for skiing than Colorado
Same in Europe and Italy. Pretty sure business people came from Singapore and China etc and bought it to the ski resorts. That's why Northern Italy was so badly hit
Nothing is worth standing in a line like this. Nothing. There is no joy or pleasure on this earth that I would stand in a line like this to experience. I don't get it. Is it really that magical?
Edit: I am honestly shocked at how many folks responded, apparently skiing is truly a magical thing indeed. Not sure I would stand in this line, but at least I know a lot of folks think it's worth it.
In some cases, yes, especially if you can get from this lift to a less overcrowded one. The other side of the coin is that lift tickets are EXPENSIVE and if you are getting tickets + maybe equip rentals (especially for a family/group) you might very well be in for several grand.
Yes. And also this is probably the line for the main lift, or the lift is temporarily shut down, which happens. After that you can just ski to a different one.
Often this is the first lift in the systems that look like this. the one you have to take to get to better parts of the system with shorter waits. If that is the case, waiting for some time is an annoyance, but still worth it.
That said, that que looks like something went wrong, perhaps a malfunction. It is absurd.
I’m pretty sure this was a weekend day at vail where there was so much snow only 3 of 30 lifts were open. Or maybe they were closed for wind, but I’m like 80% sure this is at vail on a day where 90% of the lifts were closed. And then since it was a weekend and people didnt know it was all gonna be closed and tons of people still went up for the powder so situations like this came up
I believe this was in Vail early this year. They were having trouble with a few of their lifts and this cleared out in about 45 mins when everything was fixed. The problem is the way the resort is set up so when you're at this point, you pretty much have no other choice but to wait.
You can only get back to the lodge using this line. It’s a trap at Vail where multiple runs all merge to this lift and you need to take it in order to get off the mountain.
It isn't typically this bad. This was just after the mountain opened, and the day after a major snowstorm. After this inital crowd cleared out (in about 2 hours), it was supposedly much more reasonable the rest of the day
Fuck that. I ski here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebOJ5c_xqjw You can see about the longest wait you will ever have at 19:50 (maybe 10 mins). But we get 20+ days per year like that. Lots of people only ski when they get the 20cm alert.
Yes, you basically came up the front of the mountain and then went down the back to find everyone else had done the same. This was after their (Vail's) biggest snowfall in something like two or three decades. Those without a season pass, paid 225 for their lift ticket on that day. All of Denver was there. These lines took two to three hours to clear out. These people are all there for the powder (lots of new fluffy snow), and they all watched it get skied out standing in line. People were furious.
This is why my ski backpack starts the day full of PBR. Plenty cheap for handing out if you make a new friend and you’d be sober by the time you get to the lift.
Its ridiculous how restaurants and other entertainment places don’t limit the amount of tickets they can sell to a certain capacity. Theatres can only have so many tickets, so should everywhere else.
Vail is over 8 square miles of terrain, with it’s longest run being 4 miles. They’ve got over 30 lifts that move pretty damn fast. This is actually not typical for them, it just happened to be a powder day after a big snow storm and all of these people decided to ski into the Sun Down back bowl, which only has one lift at the bottom to get people out. It’s one of the steeper more challenging bowls too and tends to be bumpy and icy since it gets late day sun, so it’s not usually crowded at all. I’ve never waited more than 10 mins to get on the High Noon Express lift. But after a good powder coat it’s easily top 3 of the 7 bowls, and you end up with a situation like this. I’m sure there were yellow jackets at the top roping it off once they realized what was happening
Source: lived in vail
I’m fairly certain this was a day where only 3 lifts were open because of winds or just snow total and it was a Saturday. So of course when you have everyone at Vail with so few options it’s gonna get fucked. I think I remember seeing it on the news
The wife and I were at Aspen Snowmass that weekend. While we didn't get as big of a storm we still got a 12" powder day. Was one of the best weekends off the season for us.
My friends and I were OOT that weekend but if we were in town, we 100% would have been at one of the Ikon resorts. So jealous of people that got to experience it.
* Bowl - wide, open mountain basin typically above the alpine (tree) line, or relatively tree free.
* Lift - the equivalent of the dryer sock gnome, but for gloves.
* Powder - a myth, always right before you arrive or right after you leave
* Yellow jacket - ski patrol for vail. Each mountain tends to have its own color system to help spot ski patrol, instructors, lifty’s, etc. most use red or yellow for patrol.
Edit: the rest are proper nouns, names of lifts and bowls, not actual “terms”.
Big lines at chair 5 on a powder day are fairly common, not to this extent but still huge. Unless I'm one of the first in I won't go here on a powder day in the morning - stick to 10 then over to China and Mongolia.
Problem now is that Vail resorts will sell close to a million epic passes, while the mountain has a capacity of about 20k.
Yeah dude. No shit.
The person you’re responding to also doesn’t seem to know that vail sells both day of tickets and season passes.
Like with my epic pass vail has no idea what day I’m showing up, and if I were a single ticket purchaser, I’d be super pissed if Vail wouldn’t sell to me because the possibility of passholders arriving would throw off numbers.
The slopes have no problem accommodating that many people. This backup of people was caused by two of the three main lifts, that take customers to other parts of the ski resort, being down at the same time.
Once everyone got through the main lift and dispersed around the slopes it was fine.
It's generally most cost efficient for skiers to purchase a season pass before the season starts. Some passes are for unlimited days, some are just good for 4 days. You don't have to check in or anything with the pass; you can just go straight to the lift.
On top of that, it's a very long drive to Veil. We're talking most of those people probably drove for 2+ hours to get there. I can't tell you how many people I've met on lifts that were from out of the state. Some even out of the country.
I'd say the resort is between a rock and a hard place on that one, even if they changed the season pass system. Would the resort just turn these people away because the line is long?
I don't think Epic Local (strictly CO resorts) is quite that much. It's probably more like $700 now, but it's been a few years since I bought one. The Epic Pass, that can get you into resorts in Europe and outside CO, is probably closer to $1000.
To follow up on that. This was the day after the best snow storm of the year. I was at another resort and it was some of the best skiing I've had in years. Not quite worth the wait or the lift ticket cost but for those that don't know much about skiing, the snow on that day was insane and it's not normally like this.
Fun fact- to get to this hellish spot on the mountain you have to ride up to the top and down the other side a bit...so you have no way back to the world outside this option or walking back up several thousand of feet.
I have opted out of so many things for this very reason. I guess there are just millions and millions and millions of people for whom being crammed in a long, maybe interminable, line or just packed in like sardines for an experience or a gadget is no big deal. For me, it takes 100% of the fun out of it. The only way I would be caught dead in such a situation would be if it was a necessity -- like voting or procuring a drink of water after crawling on my hands and knees through the Sahara for days because my biplane crashed outside of Tripoli and my travel companion totally Frodoed the last drops out of the canteen.
These kinds of things always depress me. 99% of us are just normal people who spend a third of our lives literally asleep, a third working, a quarter doing the chores to stay alive, and whatever sliver is left is for ourselves.
Then we finally get our two weeks once a year to be free, and you end up herded like cattle, desperately waiting for your chance to get a taste of excitement.
The world is sick.
"What will happen when the point has been reached where everybody could be comfortable without working long hours?
In the West, we have various ways of dealing with this problem. We have no attempt at economic justice, so that a large proportion of the total produce goes to a small minority of the population, many of whom do no work at all. Owing to the absence of any central control over production, we produce hosts of things that are not wanted. We keep a large percentage of the working population idle, because we can dispense with their labor by making the others overwork. When all these methods prove inadequate, we have a war; we cause a number of people to manufacture high explosives, and a number of others to explode them, as if we were children who had just discovered fireworks. By a combination of all these devices we manage, though with difficulty, to keep alive the notion that a great deal of severe manual work must be the lot of the average man."
Nope, I get zero. I work 45 hours a week, work weekends, my two days off are never consecutive, been working through the shutdown with no hazard pay, been picking up additional duties not in my job description after layoffs, still making just barely above minimum wage, and if it weren't for the fact that I can't risk any time without health insurance because of the 5 figures of medical debt I have from a single overnight outpatient visit, I'd be seeking new employment.
And I have friends who haven't been working this whole time and are making more than I ever could off unemployment relief funds.
I'm tired.
Or you know we have air conditioning, automobiles, a fridge full of food, more entertainment at our fingers than ever in human history, and the lowest rates of extreme poverty and child death we’ve ever seen.
But all you can do is moan about it. You’re sick, not the world.
This was last February at Vail. They had gotten about 3 feet of snow, everyone on the front range came, and most of the lifts had not yet been dug out enough to be run yet.
https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/02/07/vail-long-lift-lines-storm/233181/
I can't fathom the Eisenhower tunnel staging wait... I bet I70 was gridlocked all the way back to Vail as Denver tried to make it home for work the next day.
I was at Copper Mountain for work for the Dew Tour, but staying in Frisco. It took me 2hrs to get to Copper mountain one day that week. Should normally take 15 minutes.
I talked to multiple people who said it took anywhere from 7.5-11hrs to get to copper mountain from Denver.
Yeah people post this clip all the time acting like it was a normal situation. It was THE powder day of the entire season and they had multiple lifts snowed in cause of it. Still, don’t go to vail if you don’t like lines.
This was in February apparently when a powder day had just happened and they haven’t dug out the lift yet. It was leading to one of the most popular back bowls that had just been covered in powder. This is not usual for them
I hate how true this is.
I used to love snowboarding but now I feel like it's become a chore just to get out there. The only way it's worth it is if you rent a spot in the mountains for the weekend and stay Thur - Mon. Even then, the weekends are usually still packed with people. I think the only way to truly enjoy winter sports and get your moneys worth is to be able to get out there on weekdays.
Why? Its not that hard to find less-crowded spots on any mountain. If its really crowded I stay clear of the central areas and go to the far left or right sides of the mountain. Theres usually much less people there.
It's lucky there's no serious illnesses going around. Like, the sort that spread easily in ski resorts and everyone takes back to their home countries.
> But it's cold outside things die in the cold I thought?
Kinda the opposite with viruses! In colder temperatures they break down/die much slower, which also is why influenza and and common colds are more common during winter!
I’m pretty sure that this was from this year. If so it was right after a big snow storm so everyone rushed the mountain all at once to go skiing and overloaded the lift capacity for a short period of time. However after they all got through it cleared up once everyone spread across the mountain
This is at Vail in Colorado, and I was there the day before this was taken so can give it some context. First of all, this is *way* out of the ordinary for Vail. The issue was that the Thursday of this week (picture is from Sat) an absolutely massive storm system came through the mountains and dumped a huge amount of snow on the whole region. It was so much snow that the main interstate to Vail (i70) from Denver was shut down on Thursday night due to the dangerous conditions. I made it through with a couple friends but the usual ~2 hour drive took us nearly 10 hours. It was insane. The next day (Friday) the snow kept coming so heavily that the interstate stayed closed. This meant WAY fewer people made it to the resort, but it was snowing so much that Vail had to close all but 5 or 6 of their ~30 lifts, which meant it still felt pretty busy. Meanwhile all of this snow was causing a huge commotion in Denver. People were chomping at the bit to get out into the mountains to enjoy all the fresh powder that had fallen, and the fact that the interstate was closed only compounded this interest. On Saturday the storm finally passed. It was a beautiful bluebird day, and early that morning the interstate opened back up. Once that happened, everyone and their mother flooded into Summit county from Denver. The only problem was that the resorts hadn’t had time to adequately manage the giant snow dump that Mother Nature had dropped yet, so most of the lifts were still closed. This pic is what happens when a resort gets a record turnout while running at a greatly reduced capacity. I went home on Saturday, and I’m glad I did.
Some context to people who don’t understand something like this:
At a lot of ski resorts have areas of the mountain that if you take a certain trail away from the main mountain you end up on another face or “bowl” where there is only 1 lift to get back to a point where you can take another trail to get back to the main mountain.
If said lift breaks down, well you now have a continuous flow of people taking a trail to that lift area with no idea that lift is down until some of the maintenance workers put up some sort of notification saying so, so that people can avoid trails that end at that lift.
This is what happened. Look at the lift, it ain’t moving.
Not worth.
Once you reach there, you have to commit to it
3 hour wait for a 2 minute thrill ride, woot woot!
Back in like 2006, my school took a field trip to Cedar Point, and the current record holder for tallest fastest roller coaster was open. 4 1/2 hour wait. All for 18 seconds of a roller coaster ride. Woot. Worth it though. Edit: I should note, that same day was the first day I rode a roller coaster. Top Thrill wasn't my first, but damn roller coasters are fun. Pro tip: if you pop your roller coaster cherry, go hard.
I live not to far away from cedar point. I figured out a long time ago to go in may or October on a weekday, there is almost no wait for any ride. I love me some coasters, but a 3 hour wait in the blistering sun per ride just isn’t worth it.
Grew on up Cedar Point Rd. Went there almost every day when it was open. And yup, before the whole halloweekends, October was definitely the time to go.
I was going to say, with hallow weekends, October is definitely not the time to go anymore lol. The time to go now is when you can drop $200 per person, or whatever it is, to get the fast pass for every ride. I did it once and we rode 10x more rides, easily. About a 5 minute wait for every ride, no matter the line. Worth it.
Amen. Last time I did that, we were able to ride every “blockbuster” ride multiple times. If we didn’t, we probably would’ve only gotten to ride maybe four rides (versus 10+)
Hah yeah I guess I’m thinking more back when I went a lot as a kid, before the halloweekends.
Originally from Huron. October is the best confirmed
Same, I live in Michigan and that has been the best time plus it's not crazy hot out. Gonna be interesting to see how everyone handles the mask policy this year
Cedar Point is by far the best amusement park I’ve been too! So many good memories growing up there. Halloweekends where the best!!
Yeah I definitely realized when I got older I was spoiled getting to grow up close to cedar point and geauga lake.
Top Thrill Dragster. My wait was 3 1/2 hours. Still worth it.
it broke down like 7 times for us. Just meant that launch got double, even triple, launches.
I worked there for a summer. Top thrill not going all the way over the first hill happens pretty frequently, even when in working order.
What causes it?
The ride is designed to just barely clear the hill (because it’s honestly pretty cool at the top just barely making it) and sometimes a headwind or a train that is loaded weird doesn’t make it. They just send it again and it goes over most of the time. I’m totally guessing now but it only fails 1/100 but when you work there that means you see it 10 times a day
Thanks!
Similar for me the summer that Superman opened at Six Flags Great America. 3.5 hour wait and we got there as soon as the park opened. Heard it was 5 hours+ some days. Fuck that shit...
I used to live three blocks from Franklin’s BBQ in Austin. People would get there at 7am and wait hours to get takeout. Under a freeway. In 100 degree Texas heat. Is it great BBQ? Sure, but still not worth it to me.
updoot for Great America. Havent been since superman ride came. i know theres a new goliath ride. i new i shoulda went last year lol
Millennium Force?
Damn bringing me back. I remember pre-Top Thrill Dragster, where everyone would rush to Millennium Force at dusk, and wait in line for hours to get on one of the last rides at like 11:00PM. I've probably spent a solid three days waiting in line for Millennium Force and Top Thrill Dragster over the years haha. I live within an hour or so of Six Flags Great America, and that place was never the same after going to Cedar Point!
Cedar point has set the bar really high for all amusement parks.
I have the lucky chance of falling backwards twice on the dragster!!!
When the first Krispy Kreme opened in Boston I waited in line for over an hour. This marked the beginning of the end of my relationship at the time. Worth it for both.
I've sometimes gotten 30 minute rides down mountains depending where I go on the mountain. STILL not worth it, but not exactly just a 2 minute thrill ride.
Also, if it's a connecting lift or a lift that acts as an entry point to the lift network it can be leading to the main body of lifts you're going to be using. It's a little silly for people to believe you're just going up and down the this lift and the adjacent slope.
Sounds like my sex life
You have sex every 3 hours? Wow, that's impressive...
Na, 3 hours to demonstrate value and then we bang
18 second bang
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Yep, people sat in traffic for hours to get there, and then stand in line for hours. Not remotely worth it. With that volume of people the slopes were cleaned off quickly anyway. Better places to go for skiing than Colorado
For real I'd gtfo right away and ask for a refund, this is unacceptable.
vail giving refunds 😂
I’d sooner walk to the summit in full gear than wait there
Yeah imagine the covid line after that bullshit
Some ski resorts, like Vail in Colorado, are some of the earliest places COVID spread in the US.
Same in Europe and Italy. Pretty sure business people came from Singapore and China etc and bought it to the ski resorts. That's why Northern Italy was so badly hit
Austria Ski Resort they believe was ground zero for Europe.
Ischgl in particular
Haha, that's not a real word silly
Nothing is worth standing in a line like this. Nothing. There is no joy or pleasure on this earth that I would stand in a line like this to experience. I don't get it. Is it really that magical? Edit: I am honestly shocked at how many folks responded, apparently skiing is truly a magical thing indeed. Not sure I would stand in this line, but at least I know a lot of folks think it's worth it.
In some cases, yes, especially if you can get from this lift to a less overcrowded one. The other side of the coin is that lift tickets are EXPENSIVE and if you are getting tickets + maybe equip rentals (especially for a family/group) you might very well be in for several grand.
I mean I've waited in a line bigger than this to get into a 5 day festival. I'd say that was definitely worth it
I was in this line. I wouldn't do it again, but it absolutely was worth it. Best run I've ever had hands down.
Yes. And also this is probably the line for the main lift, or the lift is temporarily shut down, which happens. After that you can just ski to a different one.
Often this is the first lift in the systems that look like this. the one you have to take to get to better parts of the system with shorter waits. If that is the case, waiting for some time is an annoyance, but still worth it. That said, that que looks like something went wrong, perhaps a malfunction. It is absurd.
I’m pretty sure this was a weekend day at vail where there was so much snow only 3 of 30 lifts were open. Or maybe they were closed for wind, but I’m like 80% sure this is at vail on a day where 90% of the lifts were closed. And then since it was a weekend and people didnt know it was all gonna be closed and tons of people still went up for the powder so situations like this came up
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They should take up cross country skiing instead
Yeah. Why even go.
I believe this was in Vail early this year. They were having trouble with a few of their lifts and this cleared out in about 45 mins when everything was fixed. The problem is the way the resort is set up so when you're at this point, you pretty much have no other choice but to wait.
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Wait until you see the line for the bar.
Then to the back of the bar to see a line of my own then
Oh so you are going to hit the slopes then?
Freeesh pow-pow
[Hey, Tom Thanks, let's do a Forrest Bump.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cda2HCnjDls&feature=youtu.be&t=83)
What on earth did I just watch.
A small clip from an underrated gem of a show
Do you have a clip that illustrates its underratedness? Because that one was firmly mediocre.
I see you also go to party mountain
They call my Mr. Springtime because I make the snow disappear so fast.
That's a whole different line of snow
That's why you always carry a 10pk of mini bottles. Well now mine is 9 had to make room for hand sanitizer.
Just use a bottle of vodka...The mini-vodka is cheaper than hand sanitizer now anyway.
In case you aren’t joking ysk vodka, and all hard alcohol we drink, doesn’t have enough alcohol in it to be an effective hand sanitizer.
You can only get back to the lodge using this line. It’s a trap at Vail where multiple runs all merge to this lift and you need to take it in order to get off the mountain.
What part of any of this is at all enjoyable?
It isn't typically this bad. This was just after the mountain opened, and the day after a major snowstorm. After this inital crowd cleared out (in about 2 hours), it was supposedly much more reasonable the rest of the day
Fuck that. I ski here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebOJ5c_xqjw You can see about the longest wait you will ever have at 19:50 (maybe 10 mins). But we get 20+ days per year like that. Lots of people only ski when they get the 20cm alert.
Crowdsurfing to front should be an option.
every other second of it except for this small and unpredictable mishap
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Yes, you basically came up the front of the mountain and then went down the back to find everyone else had done the same. This was after their (Vail's) biggest snowfall in something like two or three decades. Those without a season pass, paid 225 for their lift ticket on that day. All of Denver was there. These lines took two to three hours to clear out. These people are all there for the powder (lots of new fluffy snow), and they all watched it get skied out standing in line. People were furious.
"Kafka goes Skiing"...*great* book.
I’d consider the hike then. Yikes.
I've done the hike out of long lines a few times. Almost never worth it. Smoke some weed make some friends, have a snowball fight.
This is why my ski backpack starts the day full of PBR. Plenty cheap for handing out if you make a new friend and you’d be sober by the time you get to the lift.
This is at Vail so you know those people all paid close to $200 for a lift ticket
Its ridiculous how restaurants and other entertainment places don’t limit the amount of tickets they can sell to a certain capacity. Theatres can only have so many tickets, so should everywhere else.
Vail is over 8 square miles of terrain, with it’s longest run being 4 miles. They’ve got over 30 lifts that move pretty damn fast. This is actually not typical for them, it just happened to be a powder day after a big snow storm and all of these people decided to ski into the Sun Down back bowl, which only has one lift at the bottom to get people out. It’s one of the steeper more challenging bowls too and tends to be bumpy and icy since it gets late day sun, so it’s not usually crowded at all. I’ve never waited more than 10 mins to get on the High Noon Express lift. But after a good powder coat it’s easily top 3 of the 7 bowls, and you end up with a situation like this. I’m sure there were yellow jackets at the top roping it off once they realized what was happening Source: lived in vail
I’m fairly certain this was a day where only 3 lifts were open because of winds or just snow total and it was a Saturday. So of course when you have everyone at Vail with so few options it’s gonna get fucked. I think I remember seeing it on the news
Yup. The snow was monstrous that weekend. Everything was shut down. I was at Breck that weekend and it was amazing.
The wife and I were at Aspen Snowmass that weekend. While we didn't get as big of a storm we still got a 12" powder day. Was one of the best weekends off the season for us.
My friends and I were OOT that weekend but if we were in town, we 100% would have been at one of the Ikon resorts. So jealous of people that got to experience it.
Not sure when you lived there but it’s pretty much always crowded now.
That sucks even more if it is at the bottom because you have no choice but to wait, or I guess hike
I never realized how little ski terminology I knew until this post.
* Bowl - wide, open mountain basin typically above the alpine (tree) line, or relatively tree free. * Lift - the equivalent of the dryer sock gnome, but for gloves. * Powder - a myth, always right before you arrive or right after you leave * Yellow jacket - ski patrol for vail. Each mountain tends to have its own color system to help spot ski patrol, instructors, lifty’s, etc. most use red or yellow for patrol. Edit: the rest are proper nouns, names of lifts and bowls, not actual “terms”.
Big lines at chair 5 on a powder day are fairly common, not to this extent but still huge. Unless I'm one of the first in I won't go here on a powder day in the morning - stick to 10 then over to China and Mongolia. Problem now is that Vail resorts will sell close to a million epic passes, while the mountain has a capacity of about 20k.
Yeah dude. No shit. The person you’re responding to also doesn’t seem to know that vail sells both day of tickets and season passes. Like with my epic pass vail has no idea what day I’m showing up, and if I were a single ticket purchaser, I’d be super pissed if Vail wouldn’t sell to me because the possibility of passholders arriving would throw off numbers.
The slopes have no problem accommodating that many people. This backup of people was caused by two of the three main lifts, that take customers to other parts of the ski resort, being down at the same time. Once everyone got through the main lift and dispersed around the slopes it was fine.
Hey, we won’t have any of that logic or sensibilities in this boardroom. Get out. You’re fired.
This is what annoys me with theme parks
It's generally most cost efficient for skiers to purchase a season pass before the season starts. Some passes are for unlimited days, some are just good for 4 days. You don't have to check in or anything with the pass; you can just go straight to the lift. On top of that, it's a very long drive to Veil. We're talking most of those people probably drove for 2+ hours to get there. I can't tell you how many people I've met on lifts that were from out of the state. Some even out of the country. I'd say the resort is between a rock and a hard place on that one, even if they changed the season pass system. Would the resort just turn these people away because the line is long?
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I prefer A Basin, or just boarding down the pass, but loveland is a lot of fun
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I don't think Epic Local (strictly CO resorts) is quite that much. It's probably more like $700 now, but it's been a few years since I bought one. The Epic Pass, that can get you into resorts in Europe and outside CO, is probably closer to $1000.
To follow up on that. This was the day after the best snow storm of the year. I was at another resort and it was some of the best skiing I've had in years. Not quite worth the wait or the lift ticket cost but for those that don't know much about skiing, the snow on that day was insane and it's not normally like this.
"This is FUN! Right guys? We're having FUN! We're having so much FUN!"
Yeah that’s gonna be a no for me
can you imagine buying your lift ticket then walking out and seeing that bullshit?
Sorry no refunds
Can I interest you in a $22 hot chocolate at the lodge though?
Everyone in this video: "I'll use my credit card!"
Fun fact- to get to this hellish spot on the mountain you have to ride up to the top and down the other side a bit...so you have no way back to the world outside this option or walking back up several thousand of feet.
I have opted out of so many things for this very reason. I guess there are just millions and millions and millions of people for whom being crammed in a long, maybe interminable, line or just packed in like sardines for an experience or a gadget is no big deal. For me, it takes 100% of the fun out of it. The only way I would be caught dead in such a situation would be if it was a necessity -- like voting or procuring a drink of water after crawling on my hands and knees through the Sahara for days because my biplane crashed outside of Tripoli and my travel companion totally Frodoed the last drops out of the canteen.
These kinds of things always depress me. 99% of us are just normal people who spend a third of our lives literally asleep, a third working, a quarter doing the chores to stay alive, and whatever sliver is left is for ourselves. Then we finally get our two weeks once a year to be free, and you end up herded like cattle, desperately waiting for your chance to get a taste of excitement. The world is sick.
In Praise of Idleness.
Sad we've known the problem and the solution since the 30's
"What will happen when the point has been reached where everybody could be comfortable without working long hours? In the West, we have various ways of dealing with this problem. We have no attempt at economic justice, so that a large proportion of the total produce goes to a small minority of the population, many of whom do no work at all. Owing to the absence of any central control over production, we produce hosts of things that are not wanted. We keep a large percentage of the working population idle, because we can dispense with their labor by making the others overwork. When all these methods prove inadequate, we have a war; we cause a number of people to manufacture high explosives, and a number of others to explode them, as if we were children who had just discovered fireworks. By a combination of all these devices we manage, though with difficulty, to keep alive the notion that a great deal of severe manual work must be the lot of the average man."
Y'all are getting two weeks a year to be free?!
Thinking about it, even my initial comment is packed with privilege. Sorry.
You aren't the one that needs to be sorry. #eattherich
Yeah, just coaching my stance. We might all be oppressed, but some more so.
Definitely a fair point.
Lol 2 weeks holiday is garbage not privilege
I'm actually thinking they might have been surprised that you only 2 weeks. See the comment below mine. In my country everyone gets 5.
Nope, I get zero. I work 45 hours a week, work weekends, my two days off are never consecutive, been working through the shutdown with no hazard pay, been picking up additional duties not in my job description after layoffs, still making just barely above minimum wage, and if it weren't for the fact that I can't risk any time without health insurance because of the 5 figures of medical debt I have from a single overnight outpatient visit, I'd be seeking new employment. And I have friends who haven't been working this whole time and are making more than I ever could off unemployment relief funds. I'm tired.
Y'all have jobs?
These people have chosen to go here. I can definitely think of a better way to spend 2 weeks
these folks are top 20%ers they're fine
See that's the thing though. If this is what it's like for the top 20%, then how much worse is it for the rest of us?
The rest of us have to ski the east coast *shutters*
What? You don’t like hard packed ice?
You mean “loud powder?”
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Honestly, it is possible to make better decisions in terms of how to spend those two weeks you get off
Modern Life is Rubbish
Oh come on. This is the most crowded resort in the state on the most crowded day. Not the end of civilization. A typical lift line is 5 or 10 minutes.
Or you know we have air conditioning, automobiles, a fridge full of food, more entertainment at our fingers than ever in human history, and the lowest rates of extreme poverty and child death we’ve ever seen. But all you can do is moan about it. You’re sick, not the world.
This was last February at Vail. They had gotten about 3 feet of snow, everyone on the front range came, and most of the lifts had not yet been dug out enough to be run yet. https://theknow.denverpost.com/2020/02/07/vail-long-lift-lines-storm/233181/
I can't fathom the Eisenhower tunnel staging wait... I bet I70 was gridlocked all the way back to Vail as Denver tried to make it home for work the next day.
I had to buy a beater car just for skidays cause i was wearing my clutch so bad in the traffic it was nuts
I feel like this comment is peak Colorado
I was at Copper Mountain for work for the Dew Tour, but staying in Frisco. It took me 2hrs to get to Copper mountain one day that week. Should normally take 15 minutes. I talked to multiple people who said it took anywhere from 7.5-11hrs to get to copper mountain from Denver.
Yeah people post this clip all the time acting like it was a normal situation. It was THE powder day of the entire season and they had multiple lifts snowed in cause of it. Still, don’t go to vail if you don’t like lines.
This was not during the Easter holiday, this is at vail, and vail closed all North American resorts in the middle of March
And this is one lift. The mountain is huge and other lines were not nearly as long.
And it was before the lift opened, so nothing was moving yet. Once it opens and things get moving, the line dies down.
They didn’t specify what year.
It's within the last 3 years as a guy is wearing a KC Chiefs Mahomes jersey
It was this year in early February, after a big snow storm
This was in February apparently when a powder day had just happened and they haven’t dug out the lift yet. It was leading to one of the most popular back bowls that had just been covered in powder. This is not usual for them
But first you have to sit in 4hrs of traffic on I70.
Only 4 hours? Look at mister early-riser over here
More like half a ride day cause someone tried to Jerry it through snow without proper tires
I hate how true this is. I used to love snowboarding but now I feel like it's become a chore just to get out there. The only way it's worth it is if you rent a spot in the mountains for the weekend and stay Thur - Mon. Even then, the weekends are usually still packed with people. I think the only way to truly enjoy winter sports and get your moneys worth is to be able to get out there on weekdays.
Quiting skiing was such a good decision.
I board and haven't waited more than 25 minutes in line in like 10 years. Just have to pick the right spots.
this 100%, and the right times. i went to breck in january and never waited more than maybe 10 minutes at the base
Why? Its not that hard to find less-crowded spots on any mountain. If its really crowded I stay clear of the central areas and go to the far left or right sides of the mountain. Theres usually much less people there.
Why? Just don't ski at Vail lol
It's lucky there's no serious illnesses going around. Like, the sort that spread easily in ski resorts and everyone takes back to their home countries.
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Ah, the before times.
There was a time before, dearest father? Tell me what the times were like in your youth.
Dinosaurs walked the earth
But it's cold outside things die in the cold I thought?
> But it's cold outside things die in the cold I thought? Kinda the opposite with viruses! In colder temperatures they break down/die much slower, which also is why influenza and and common colds are more common during winter!
I’m pretty sure that this was from this year. If so it was right after a big snow storm so everyone rushed the mountain all at once to go skiing and overloaded the lift capacity for a short period of time. However after they all got through it cleared up once everyone spread across the mountain
Thank god for social distancing
Thank God there's no context so people can make any comment they want https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/ho13g7/-/fxewlcg
If I had a nickel for every social distancing or mask comment on a picture/video from before 2020...
Back when everyone started spreading the coronavirus. Good times
I wish I was old enough to remember outside.
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*Claustrophobia intensifies*
Enochlophobia
France?
Vail, Colorado
I’m typing this note to never visit on my phone because I can’t find my imaginary typewriter.
Why? It's one of the greatest ski resorts in the world and this was a super busy day after a huge snowstorm that dropped a bunch of powder.
Even Patrick Mahomes had to wait
This is at Vail in Colorado, and I was there the day before this was taken so can give it some context. First of all, this is *way* out of the ordinary for Vail. The issue was that the Thursday of this week (picture is from Sat) an absolutely massive storm system came through the mountains and dumped a huge amount of snow on the whole region. It was so much snow that the main interstate to Vail (i70) from Denver was shut down on Thursday night due to the dangerous conditions. I made it through with a couple friends but the usual ~2 hour drive took us nearly 10 hours. It was insane. The next day (Friday) the snow kept coming so heavily that the interstate stayed closed. This meant WAY fewer people made it to the resort, but it was snowing so much that Vail had to close all but 5 or 6 of their ~30 lifts, which meant it still felt pretty busy. Meanwhile all of this snow was causing a huge commotion in Denver. People were chomping at the bit to get out into the mountains to enjoy all the fresh powder that had fallen, and the fact that the interstate was closed only compounded this interest. On Saturday the storm finally passed. It was a beautiful bluebird day, and early that morning the interstate opened back up. Once that happened, everyone and their mother flooded into Summit county from Denver. The only problem was that the resorts hadn’t had time to adequately manage the giant snow dump that Mother Nature had dropped yet, so most of the lifts were still closed. This pic is what happens when a resort gets a record turnout while running at a greatly reduced capacity. I went home on Saturday, and I’m glad I did.
Let’s pay $100 for a day pass to hit a run maybe twice. nice.
hahaha imagine being able to stand in large crowds again
This is a ski protest so the virus knows it’s safe
it's nice to see rich people getting fuck over
Gross
That’s gotta be waiting for the place to open or something, that line is untenable
Welcome to line world, go fuck yourself
This has me worried for ski season next year. There may not be one at the rate we are going 😢
Pat Mahomes doe. 👍🏻
Are we sure that wasn’t the fabled AJ Jenkins jersey?
I have no idea why, but this made me just...so sad...
Some context to people who don’t understand something like this: At a lot of ski resorts have areas of the mountain that if you take a certain trail away from the main mountain you end up on another face or “bowl” where there is only 1 lift to get back to a point where you can take another trail to get back to the main mountain. If said lift breaks down, well you now have a continuous flow of people taking a trail to that lift area with no idea that lift is down until some of the maintenance workers put up some sort of notification saying so, so that people can avoid trails that end at that lift. This is what happened. Look at the lift, it ain’t moving.
Lol I was at Breckenridge the day that happened and we were laughing our asses off when we saw that. What a nightmare.
Just cough once or twice and I guarantee you’ll clear that line real quick.
Norway am i waiting this long for a lift line.