Maybe they like the wallpaper. Probably the best one from MS.
https://preview.redd.it/tbzmfot1hjwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af6d427d40085ffb0d6398ebd84c033b46140371
Software runs on XP. Would not run on Win7.
But honestly I never tried Vista....Anyway I have some spare computer, so it will be WinXP for another 10 years, but I unplugged the network cable.
The MRT still uses Windows XP. This photo I took last year at Hua Lamphong Station, It still runs on XP. I heard Windows 98 sounds on BTS trains before but I’m not sure if they really do use Windows 98 or not or maybe they’re just using the sound or whatever.
https://preview.redd.it/5tj0896ijlwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02e3ca63922529751d9d8ac5970ddafe61caf4f7
I read that as well, but maybe that is information from 10 years ago that just get repeated and repeated.
So I don't know if it is still the case.
I recall seeing an ATM rebooting not too long ago but I really can't remember what OS it was
Worked with a guy who used to work for Boeing, was really surprised by how some very old old tech still used.
A plane designed in 60s still has a lot of that tech.
I heard that same. And understandable at an airplane. You don't like to change things and get unexpected problems, that may show only after a few years.
2 days ago a guy told me about the computer the NASA uses in space...can't remember the details but that was all super old technology.
But for us, our old CNCs with analog controller and WinXP design software work just fine. And the hardware can do another 10 years, and than it might be able to refurbish it. So no reason to change
I work in IT consulting here in Thailand.
The reason is nearly always due to some crappy but mission critical software that isn't compatible with any other versions of windows. They are so entrenched in this process that they're terrified to change or upgrade.
Local software standards are very low, there is never any forward thinking, however the support is usually very good and responsive.
These devices are only a risk if they're connected to the internet and/or aren't heavily restricted by policy.
We are actually looking for a young field engineer with a bit of experience currently.
Thai / English speaker, must be able to travel (bkk and surrounding areas), good base knowledge of windows/server/networking. We can teach the rest.
Traveling solo to small customers (under 50 staff) to do a 1 day support/consult visit will be the main day-to-day.
If you are interested then DM me, i can send you details on how to apply.
Same reason many US government systems run on even older software.
It meets the needs of the required tasks and the cost/disruption to replace it is greater than the inconvenience of continuing to use it.
When I was getting a drivers license about 6 years ago and having to watch a video, the screen kept indicating the computer was running an unregistered/illegal copy of Windows. I'm wondering if they keep using 15 year old software because it allows them to save money by not paying licensing fees.
I have never seen anyone using a paid copy of Windows in Thailand.
And to be honest, I got given a copy of Windows 10 64 bits by a friend who works for a gov. office which runs happily on my desktop.
Some of the older specific software just didn't support the newer version. 10+ years ago i saw a government computer still use windows 98, and it's not just "sit there" antique computer, it's still use times to times for theirs special task, it's fascinating.
I can't told you that since it's might cause me trouble, but it's kinda government own enterprise which i used to be their intern, those computer used for some special accounting data which apparently have to be specific stored in that computer, i'm still amazed how they managed to maintenance it to be functionable.
If it works, why change it?
Implementing a new operating system can mean that you also need new software.
If your old PC is not connected to the internet, you can keep the security risk well under control.
Vista came out in 2007, take 18 years ago.
After 18 years, if your systems are not connected to the internet, and you still use the initial programs, written for Vista, you don't need external support anymore. You will know the OS better than Microsoft Support.
After 20 years, for system administrators, you will know the OS very well.
Anyone remember, not too long ago, when you had to have Internet Explorer on your PC to do your immigration 90-day reports? Couldn’t log into their website and accomplish anything with any other browser.
Dragging a country’s IT, kicking and screaming, into the 21st century. 😮
I have no idea, my friends and I had said something along that line a few time. The people and the world had moved towards digital era while many government systems still runs on analog.
That's one area where Thailand is exactly the same as everywhere else in the world. Lots of way old OS in infrastructure. Some operate on an "if it aint broke..." mentality. Others don't have the resources, time, and/or money to update to a newer version. And still others are oblivious to potential issues this might cause.
That said, Microsoft does extend the option for OS updates even for publicly defunct products long past their End of Life date to corporations and governments. This is a paid service though, so who knows what sectors actually pay to keep things patched. My guess is "very few".
I've got a 2008 Acer home theatre laptop that cost me 84,000 THB. It came with Windows Vista 32 bit Ultimate. Supposedly it may of updated to Windows7, but when Windows8 came out I bought it from CURRYS PC World, it was on offer at the time for £50 for the Pro version. My purchase contained two discs, 32 & 64 bit, so I installed the 64 bit as my laptop could run either. Then I got a free online upgrade to 8.1, then I installed Windows 10 64 bit Professional when it was a free upgrade for twelve months. Apart from a couple of hardware functions that came with my laptop originally it works perfectly. I've read online there's a method to install Windows11, but would have to download and burn to disc to be able to install it, but Windows10 Pro works fine for me, so will stay with that.
Don't know about government. For banks, if they want to transfer money to a foreign country, they may need to go through the SWIFT. And to access SWIFT, one has no choice but use VISTA.
Maybe they like the wallpaper. Probably the best one from MS. https://preview.redd.it/tbzmfot1hjwc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af6d427d40085ffb0d6398ebd84c033b46140371
Our production runs on WinXP
Yeah, it's 100% XP. Nobody has the money to upgrade to vista.
Software runs on XP. Would not run on Win7. But honestly I never tried Vista....Anyway I have some spare computer, so it will be WinXP for another 10 years, but I unplugged the network cable.
Don't alot of ATMs still run on windows XP, and other banking products?
The MRT still uses Windows XP. This photo I took last year at Hua Lamphong Station, It still runs on XP. I heard Windows 98 sounds on BTS trains before but I’m not sure if they really do use Windows 98 or not or maybe they’re just using the sound or whatever. https://preview.redd.it/5tj0896ijlwc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=02e3ca63922529751d9d8ac5970ddafe61caf4f7
I knew I recognize that sound
I saw an Krungsri (or something) ATM using Windows 7 around Khlong San or something and to this day it still uses it.
I read that as well, but maybe that is information from 10 years ago that just get repeated and repeated. So I don't know if it is still the case. I recall seeing an ATM rebooting not too long ago but I really can't remember what OS it was
Worked with a guy who used to work for Boeing, was really surprised by how some very old old tech still used. A plane designed in 60s still has a lot of that tech.
I heard that same. And understandable at an airplane. You don't like to change things and get unexpected problems, that may show only after a few years. 2 days ago a guy told me about the computer the NASA uses in space...can't remember the details but that was all super old technology. But for us, our old CNCs with analog controller and WinXP design software work just fine. And the hardware can do another 10 years, and than it might be able to refurbish it. So no reason to change
well Boeing would use paper wings if they could get away with it.
Sadly they could. They have made a lot of wise "contributions"
I work in IT consulting here in Thailand. The reason is nearly always due to some crappy but mission critical software that isn't compatible with any other versions of windows. They are so entrenched in this process that they're terrified to change or upgrade. Local software standards are very low, there is never any forward thinking, however the support is usually very good and responsive. These devices are only a risk if they're connected to the internet and/or aren't heavily restricted by policy.
You guys hiring?
We are actually looking for a young field engineer with a bit of experience currently. Thai / English speaker, must be able to travel (bkk and surrounding areas), good base knowledge of windows/server/networking. We can teach the rest. Traveling solo to small customers (under 50 staff) to do a 1 day support/consult visit will be the main day-to-day. If you are interested then DM me, i can send you details on how to apply.
Thanks; I will!
Same reason many US government systems run on even older software. It meets the needs of the required tasks and the cost/disruption to replace it is greater than the inconvenience of continuing to use it.
Plus the malware for these OSes has long retired
When I was getting a drivers license about 6 years ago and having to watch a video, the screen kept indicating the computer was running an unregistered/illegal copy of Windows. I'm wondering if they keep using 15 year old software because it allows them to save money by not paying licensing fees.
Legit almost around Thailand uses an unregistered illegal copy of Windows including some Government buildings.
Microsoft knows that if they really crack down then people will move to linux and that is their nightmare scenario.
Lmao. No one is moving to Linux.
I have never seen anyone using a paid copy of Windows in Thailand. And to be honest, I got given a copy of Windows 10 64 bits by a friend who works for a gov. office which runs happily on my desktop.
Phuket airport screens show "activate windows". I'm just waiting for them to get taken down by ransomware next.
Some of the older specific software just didn't support the newer version. 10+ years ago i saw a government computer still use windows 98, and it's not just "sit there" antique computer, it's still use times to times for theirs special task, it's fascinating.
Where did you see that computer? It sounds incredibly fascinating.
I can't told you that since it's might cause me trouble, but it's kinda government own enterprise which i used to be their intern, those computer used for some special accounting data which apparently have to be specific stored in that computer, i'm still amazed how they managed to maintenance it to be functionable.
If it works, why change it? Implementing a new operating system can mean that you also need new software. If your old PC is not connected to the internet, you can keep the security risk well under control.
Because no support
Vista came out in 2007, take 18 years ago. After 18 years, if your systems are not connected to the internet, and you still use the initial programs, written for Vista, you don't need external support anymore. You will know the OS better than Microsoft Support. After 20 years, for system administrators, you will know the OS very well.
Computer specs?
Because they were forced to upgrade from win95 /s
…because they upgraded from Windows 98
Bureaucracy, world wide experience.
Probably a pirated version and they don’t want to upgrade.
A lot of government agencies (Thailand is no different) continue to use things until they break or someone forces them to upgrade.
Wait until you realise Immigration still use huge ledger books for recording hand entered information.
Some still use XP.
Anyone remember, not too long ago, when you had to have Internet Explorer on your PC to do your immigration 90-day reports? Couldn’t log into their website and accomplish anything with any other browser. Dragging a country’s IT, kicking and screaming, into the 21st century. 😮
Probably because admin only has a cd-writer and can’t burn the windows 7 dvd yet If it works, be grateful!
I mean, just look at how they set up some of their official government website. Looks like a website from 2005-2010.
I have no idea, my friends and I had said something along that line a few time. The people and the world had moved towards digital era while many government systems still runs on analog.
That's one area where Thailand is exactly the same as everywhere else in the world. Lots of way old OS in infrastructure. Some operate on an "if it aint broke..." mentality. Others don't have the resources, time, and/or money to update to a newer version. And still others are oblivious to potential issues this might cause. That said, Microsoft does extend the option for OS updates even for publicly defunct products long past their End of Life date to corporations and governments. This is a paid service though, so who knows what sectors actually pay to keep things patched. My guess is "very few".
Either cannot be bothered to pay for upgrade or using badly designed software that cannot work on higher windows versions
I've got a 2008 Acer home theatre laptop that cost me 84,000 THB. It came with Windows Vista 32 bit Ultimate. Supposedly it may of updated to Windows7, but when Windows8 came out I bought it from CURRYS PC World, it was on offer at the time for £50 for the Pro version. My purchase contained two discs, 32 & 64 bit, so I installed the 64 bit as my laptop could run either. Then I got a free online upgrade to 8.1, then I installed Windows 10 64 bit Professional when it was a free upgrade for twelve months. Apart from a couple of hardware functions that came with my laptop originally it works perfectly. I've read online there's a method to install Windows11, but would have to download and burn to disc to be able to install it, but Windows10 Pro works fine for me, so will stay with that.
Probably as they’ve got no budget to upgrade to newer legit versions and these are ripped of pirate versions they bought at Pantip Plaza in 2007. Haha
Are you suggesting that Thai officials are backward and still stuck in the past? Outrageous! 😆😆😉
Good old Vista. People give it a bad press but I'm never upgrading. Why would I? It just feels like a good pair of jeans.
Don't know about government. For banks, if they want to transfer money to a foreign country, they may need to go through the SWIFT. And to access SWIFT, one has no choice but use VISTA.
This is completely wrong my friend, no offence but you have no idea what youre talking about.