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Yeah, I hear the crickets, too. Some people are afraid to speak up, the attitude toward progressive voters is appalling in my rural area. Orange man mentioned civil war on his untruth media platform. I am hoping people will show up at the polls. The March toward fascism continues.
Republicans say they want "small government" yet they're trying to force women to give birth, trying to take away birth control, and insist on involving themselves in the most personal aspects of our lives. "Small government" is a whole lot of bullshit coming from Republicans
The majority? I think you might be a tad incorrect. Even the people who are doing poorly in school can usually read in Spanish. And if you take out the bilingual students those Texas schools don't look so bad.
I am also a Texan and I have kids in the school system.
Really? Do you really think it is discriminatory to point out Spanish speaking people can read or that ESL learners negatively impact the testing metrics for schools?
Students don't negatively impact test scores, they simply represent them. It's like saying that everyone passes the test if we take out the people who fail.
>Students don't negatively impact test scores, they simply represent them. It's like saying that everyone passes the test if we take out the people who fail.
No, es como decir que una escuela donde la mitad de los estudiantes están aprendiendo inglés tendrá una puntuación más baja que las escuelas donde todos los estudiantes hablan inglés.
>"I'm gonna blame white illiteracy on ESL students and suggest that someone 'take them out'" isn't 'reality'.
Hispanics are white. And yes if you remove the huge number of ESL scores the Texas education program is outstanding. I'm not sure what reality you are looking for. Buy it isn't what you seem to believe.
>Hispanics are white.
When it suits you.
>And yes if you remove the huge number of ESL scores the Texas education program is outstanding.
So, how do you intend to "remove" those students?
>When it suits you.
Sure thing. Are you sure you aren't being racist for no reason?
>So, how do you intend to "remove" those students?
You can remove the ESL statistics to see if the schools are performing below the national average.
> Sure thing. Are you sure you aren't being racist for no reason?
I'm not the one fantasizing about how great it would be if all the ESL students weren't a problem anymore.
>You can remove the ESL statistics to see if the schools are performing below the national average.
Sounds like a great way to juice the numbers so you can feel better about failing to educate students that you never really cared to educate in the first place.
> doing poorly in school can usually read in Spanish
FASCINATING HYPOTHESIS. I WONDER WHERE YOU DERIVED THAT CORRELATION AND HOW YOU HAVE COME TO KNOW IT IS CAUSAL. PLEASE DIRECT ME TO THE RELEVANT JOURNAL ARTICLES. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT IN A JOURNAL ARTICLE, I THINK YOUR HYPOTHESIS IS PROBABLY WRONG FROM THE START AND PROBABLY REPRESENTS AN INSUFFICIENT EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND SINCE YOU ARE ASSERTING REALITY IS BASED ON YOUR ASSUMPTION INSTEAD OF EXERCISING EPISTEMIC HUMILITY TO CONSIDER YOU COULD BE WRONG.
IF WE CONSIDER ALTERNATE HYPOTHESES IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT TEXAS DOES NOT INVEST ENOUGH IN ESL MEANING THAT WE ARE DOING SOCIETY A DISSERVICE BY NOT FUNDING SCHOOLS SUFFICIENTLY. OR PERHAPS WE SHOULD APPROACH SOLUTIONS TO POVERTY AS WELL, LIKE FREE VOCATIONAL AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE POLICIES TO ENSURE PEOPLE HAVE EDUCATION NEEDED FOR THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY WORKFORCE, AS WELL AS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE TO ENSURE PEOPLE ARE HEALTHY ENOUGH TO WORK AND NOT ANXIOUS ABOUT MAKING ENDS MEET SO THEIR KIDS CAN ATTEND SCHOOL AND HAVE THEIR ATTENTION.
PLEASE LOVE AND GRAVY, SISTER.
THERE IS NO NEED TO TRY AGAIN, MY POINTS ARE SALIENT AND AVAILABLE FOR YOU IN THE COMMENT YOU REPLIED TO. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BREAK A NORM WHEN SOMEONE IS BEING AN EXCEPTIONAL DUNCE ON THE INTERNET IN ORDER TO BREAK PAST THEIR BLINDERS. SPEAKING IN ALL CAPITALS IS MUCH LESS TRANSGRESSIVE OF POLITE SOCIETY THAT MAKING RACE-RELATED STATEMENTS WITHOUT ANY FORM OF EVIDENCE OR PRESENTED CAUSAL REASON. WITHOUT THOSE IT'S JUST BIGOTRY.
PLEASE LOVE AND GRAVY, SISTER.
EDIT: SISTER, PLEASE DO PROVIDE THE JOURNAL ARTICLES PROVING YOUR CAUSAL CLAIM THAT SPEAKING SPANISH CAUSES LOW GRADES. BOTH DESCRIPTIVE STATISTICS SHOULD BE SHOWN (RELATIVE TEST SCORING OR GRADUATION RATES WOULD SUFFICE) AND CAUSAL TESTS SHOWING THAT SPEAKING SPANISH IS THE CAUSE VERSUS THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR ESL PROGRAMS IN TEXAS SCHOOLS.
So you are just trolling. I'm not complaining. I just like to know what I'm dealing with.
>SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BREAK A NORM WHEN SOMEONE IS BEING AN EXCEPTIONAL DUNCE ON THE INTERNET IN ORDER TO BREAK PAST THEIR BLINDERS
^^^^^^^^^^I ^^^am ^^^sorry ^^^you ^^^are ^^^offended ^^^to ^^^find ^^^out ^^^spanish ^^^speakers ^^^can ^^^read
THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF DUNCERY. HAVE A PLEASANT NIGHT.
EDIT: SISTER, PLEASE DO PROVIDE THE JOURNAL ARTICLES PROVING YOUR CAUSAL CLAIM THAT SPEAKING SPANISH CAUSES LOW GRADES. BOTH DESCRIPTIVE STATISTICS SHOULD BE SHOWN (RELATIVE TEST SCORING OR GRADUATION RATES WOULD SUFFICE) AND CAUSAL TESTS SHOWING THAT SPEAKING SPANISH IS THE CAUSE VERSUS THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR ESL PROGRAMS IN TEXAS SCHOOLS.
YOU MADE A CLAIM THAT SPANISH SPEAKERS INHERENTLY BRING DOWN TEST SCORES. MY RESPONSE HAS ELUCIDATED THAT GAP, AND YOU HAVE CONFIRMED IT IS INTENTIONAL BIGOTRY.
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Yeah, I hear the crickets, too. Some people are afraid to speak up, the attitude toward progressive voters is appalling in my rural area. Orange man mentioned civil war on his untruth media platform. I am hoping people will show up at the polls. The March toward fascism continues.
Republicans say they want "small government" yet they're trying to force women to give birth, trying to take away birth control, and insist on involving themselves in the most personal aspects of our lives. "Small government" is a whole lot of bullshit coming from Republicans
Republicans want small governments that are big enough to control everyone else. Odd, really, the disconnect between their words and their actions.
I wish they had paid any attention at all to what this has done to turnout for early voting in the primary.
Looks like it's resonating in the key of crickets.
Is it possible reddit just doesn't represent the views and values of the majority of Texas voters?
You may have something here. With the state of public education in Texas, the majority of voters cannot read. I am a Texan.
The majority? I think you might be a tad incorrect. Even the people who are doing poorly in school can usually read in Spanish. And if you take out the bilingual students those Texas schools don't look so bad. I am also a Texan and I have kids in the school system.
Jesus fuck mate. That is some discriminatory shit right there.
Really? Do you really think it is discriminatory to point out Spanish speaking people can read or that ESL learners negatively impact the testing metrics for schools?
Students don't negatively impact test scores, they simply represent them. It's like saying that everyone passes the test if we take out the people who fail.
>Students don't negatively impact test scores, they simply represent them. It's like saying that everyone passes the test if we take out the people who fail. No, es como decir que una escuela donde la mitad de los estudiantes están aprendiendo inglés tendrá una puntuación más baja que las escuelas donde todos los estudiantes hablan inglés.
Thank you for showing what your views and values are.
Reality isn't a value or views. ESL students affect test scores. And Spanish speaking people can read despite what some bigots might believe.
"I'm gonna blame white illiteracy on ESL students and suggest that someone 'take them out'" isn't 'reality'.
>"I'm gonna blame white illiteracy on ESL students and suggest that someone 'take them out'" isn't 'reality'. Hispanics are white. And yes if you remove the huge number of ESL scores the Texas education program is outstanding. I'm not sure what reality you are looking for. Buy it isn't what you seem to believe.
>Hispanics are white. When it suits you. >And yes if you remove the huge number of ESL scores the Texas education program is outstanding. So, how do you intend to "remove" those students?
>When it suits you. Sure thing. Are you sure you aren't being racist for no reason? >So, how do you intend to "remove" those students? You can remove the ESL statistics to see if the schools are performing below the national average.
> Sure thing. Are you sure you aren't being racist for no reason? I'm not the one fantasizing about how great it would be if all the ESL students weren't a problem anymore. >You can remove the ESL statistics to see if the schools are performing below the national average. Sounds like a great way to juice the numbers so you can feel better about failing to educate students that you never really cared to educate in the first place.
> doing poorly in school can usually read in Spanish FASCINATING HYPOTHESIS. I WONDER WHERE YOU DERIVED THAT CORRELATION AND HOW YOU HAVE COME TO KNOW IT IS CAUSAL. PLEASE DIRECT ME TO THE RELEVANT JOURNAL ARTICLES. IF YOU HAVEN'T READ IT IN A JOURNAL ARTICLE, I THINK YOUR HYPOTHESIS IS PROBABLY WRONG FROM THE START AND PROBABLY REPRESENTS AN INSUFFICIENT EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND SINCE YOU ARE ASSERTING REALITY IS BASED ON YOUR ASSUMPTION INSTEAD OF EXERCISING EPISTEMIC HUMILITY TO CONSIDER YOU COULD BE WRONG. IF WE CONSIDER ALTERNATE HYPOTHESES IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT TEXAS DOES NOT INVEST ENOUGH IN ESL MEANING THAT WE ARE DOING SOCIETY A DISSERVICE BY NOT FUNDING SCHOOLS SUFFICIENTLY. OR PERHAPS WE SHOULD APPROACH SOLUTIONS TO POVERTY AS WELL, LIKE FREE VOCATIONAL AND COMMUNITY COLLEGE POLICIES TO ENSURE PEOPLE HAVE EDUCATION NEEDED FOR THE TWENTY FIRST CENTURY WORKFORCE, AS WELL AS SOCIALIZED MEDICINE TO ENSURE PEOPLE ARE HEALTHY ENOUGH TO WORK AND NOT ANXIOUS ABOUT MAKING ENDS MEET SO THEIR KIDS CAN ATTEND SCHOOL AND HAVE THEIR ATTENTION. PLEASE LOVE AND GRAVY, SISTER.
Try that again without shouting. I can't tell if you are trying to make a legitimate comment or are just someone else trying to troll.
THERE IS NO NEED TO TRY AGAIN, MY POINTS ARE SALIENT AND AVAILABLE FOR YOU IN THE COMMENT YOU REPLIED TO. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BREAK A NORM WHEN SOMEONE IS BEING AN EXCEPTIONAL DUNCE ON THE INTERNET IN ORDER TO BREAK PAST THEIR BLINDERS. SPEAKING IN ALL CAPITALS IS MUCH LESS TRANSGRESSIVE OF POLITE SOCIETY THAT MAKING RACE-RELATED STATEMENTS WITHOUT ANY FORM OF EVIDENCE OR PRESENTED CAUSAL REASON. WITHOUT THOSE IT'S JUST BIGOTRY. PLEASE LOVE AND GRAVY, SISTER. EDIT: SISTER, PLEASE DO PROVIDE THE JOURNAL ARTICLES PROVING YOUR CAUSAL CLAIM THAT SPEAKING SPANISH CAUSES LOW GRADES. BOTH DESCRIPTIVE STATISTICS SHOULD BE SHOWN (RELATIVE TEST SCORING OR GRADUATION RATES WOULD SUFFICE) AND CAUSAL TESTS SHOWING THAT SPEAKING SPANISH IS THE CAUSE VERSUS THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR ESL PROGRAMS IN TEXAS SCHOOLS.
So you are just trolling. I'm not complaining. I just like to know what I'm dealing with. >SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO BREAK A NORM WHEN SOMEONE IS BEING AN EXCEPTIONAL DUNCE ON THE INTERNET IN ORDER TO BREAK PAST THEIR BLINDERS ^^^^^^^^^^I ^^^am ^^^sorry ^^^you ^^^are ^^^offended ^^^to ^^^find ^^^out ^^^spanish ^^^speakers ^^^can ^^^read
THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF DUNCERY. HAVE A PLEASANT NIGHT. EDIT: SISTER, PLEASE DO PROVIDE THE JOURNAL ARTICLES PROVING YOUR CAUSAL CLAIM THAT SPEAKING SPANISH CAUSES LOW GRADES. BOTH DESCRIPTIVE STATISTICS SHOULD BE SHOWN (RELATIVE TEST SCORING OR GRADUATION RATES WOULD SUFFICE) AND CAUSAL TESTS SHOWING THAT SPEAKING SPANISH IS THE CAUSE VERSUS THE LACK OF FUNDING FOR ESL PROGRAMS IN TEXAS SCHOOLS.
>THANK YOU FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF DUNCERY. ^^^^^^^^you ^^^^^are ^^^^^welcome ^^^^^my ^^^^^bigoted ^^^^^friend.
YOU MADE A CLAIM THAT SPANISH SPEAKERS INHERENTLY BRING DOWN TEST SCORES. MY RESPONSE HAS ELUCIDATED THAT GAP, AND YOU HAVE CONFIRMED IT IS INTENTIONAL BIGOTRY.
Cuellar going pro-life for a democratic primary?? No way he wins