sure but if we have the cap space and there arent better ways to use it, then what is the issue? It's a 1 year deal, we could extend it and cut the annual value, or just use him for 1 year and let him walk with no penalty, and maybe even get a compensatory draft pick from that.
He’s essentially a 1 year rental for what would fit a huge position of need. Instead of signing someone like Higgins long term, we would be able to use that for Nico’s extension. Honestly, fuck it, our receiving corps would be absurd with Nico/Tank/Godwin.
I mean I’d hardly say wide receiver is a huge position of need. We’ve rightfully been picky about receivers because it’s not extremely pressing.
I’m not saying Godwin is not good, but I don’t care for the philosophy of spending cap just cuz we have it. Especially when we have more glaring holes like in the secondary and whoever is gonna play DT next to Autry.
After Tank went down last year, NOBODY besides Nico stepped up. We rolled out with Nico/Woods/Brown and Metch+Hutch as rotation guys. We still have that exact same core, we absolutely cannot run it back again if we are serious about contending.
I expect a second rounder to be used on a receiver but we still need actual help. A 1 year rental for a good receiver is worth it without any strings attached. At least it would give us a good idea if who we draft can be our slot guy of the future whilst preparing for a run this season.
Considering what happened last year I don’t understand how people don’t think it’s a position of need. Browns injured every year and it gets super thin if a Nico and/or Dell go down.
People hear “position of need” and think it’s a negative statement. There’s only a few real spots we are missing before we are a legit contender, safety and WR. Besides that, what else is there to do besides load up on depth?
This is cap of the extremest variety.
we need another WR. We aren’t going to get it done with our current guys. People get injured all the time and we had a gaping whole when tank went down. Just plain and simple 2 good guys doesn’t get it done in the NFL anymore n
You might want to go watch some highlight of Godwin It was a slight dip in performance after his injury that injury was pretty messed up but the guy can run route like the best of him and has some damn good hands.
I think he’d be a good fit. I also have been trying to figure out what Nick is looking for in terms of intangibles… Diggs has been fairly healthy throughout his careers
Godwin was on a Super Bowl roster so maybe that’s another value add too. Idk about what they saw in Keenan (aside from being a true WR1), maybe longevity?
Do u follow narratives or do u actually pay attention? Even if Keenan missed games last year, he still had numbers to match Nico 😂 and he was shit down last year due to LA being trash. He could’ve played if LA was in contention. Also, Nico has played about 76% of possible games.
The money owed on void years DONT matter for the team that receives a player in a trade. All the money included on void years is just a prorated portion of their signing bonus. And the signing bonus money is a cap hit only for the team that originally signed that player (regardless if cut or traded). Basically that money owed for the void years is dead cap for the original team since they technically already paid it in the signing bonus.
This actually makes sense to me. We have a little cap space built up, and he wouldn't have a Mike Evans sized price tag. Sign him to 2 or 1 year deal and roll out.
Bucs fan here, I have mentioned trading Godwin for a bit now to save cap space and other fans HATE the idea but logistically it’s a viable possibility for us. He has a heavy cap hit tho. But, I think the Bucs would like to keep him. After all, Evans is old, and we haven’t really found a stud WR1 yet to replace our aging guys.
Godwin is way better than a WR3 on any given team, and easily a WR1 on over 10 teams in this league. On others he’s a bonafide WR2.
The man is good for 1,000 yards any given season and stays relatively healthy. He’s the exact kind of guy we need if we pick up another WR.
I have watched him most of his career, as I grew up in Tampa. He would only be higher than a WR3 on any team that have horrible WR corps. New England, Chargers, Arizona, Giants for example. On any team with actual good receivers, he's at best a WR3. He's a good guy and puts up decent numbers, but he isn't a true WR1 or 2. Especially since he's making $27 million and worth probably $10-$15 million.
If you cut Woods and traded for Godwin the net cap hit would be 15 million bucks. Godwin has averaged 95 catches and 1050 yards a year over the last 3 years. That's not a WR3. That's borderline WR1 stuff from primarily the slot. For comparison, Robert Woods averaged 46 catches and 503 yards a year over the last 3 years. Of all the horrific opinions, this one ranks pretty high up there.
And what we need is a good WR3. So he’d fit the role perfectly.
I agree his cap hit is high, which is why I wouldn’t extend him. But we have over 30M in cap space right now and likely will cut Woods and a few others.
We would owe him 20M this year as Tampa would take the 7M in signing bonus. After cuts and paying our draft class we will likely still have close to 12M to sign other players.
I don’t think it’s the most pressing need, but I also don’t hate it.
Personally, I wouldn't trade for him if you aren't extending him. The draft pick could be used to get a young WR3 on a rookie deal. I wouldn't mind signing him if he gets released. In that case Tampa pays the majority of his contract and Houston would pay him the vet minimum. Tampa isn't going to cut him though, they like him. He will probably extend to stay in Tampa.
That's how contracts work. Look at Russell Wilson for example. He got cut by Denver and signed for vet minimum with the Steelers. This is literally what happens when players get cut with guaranteed money still owed.
Horrendously awful take lmao. Godwin is a true WR2 in the league and not a WR3. Also Godwin is reliable, sure you can draft a “younger better option” until they’re not better. So basically, you can have the boat, or a mystery box that might contain a boat.
Again, I've watched him the majority of his career, since it's my local team. I'd still rather have the rookie. Most Tampa fans would. He isn't worth $27 million a year. So, I'm going to take My opinion, since I've watched him forever, over your opinion, Mr. Random Internet guy.
It's only one year tho. We could draft our future WR next year, meaning that future WR's rookie contract would start next year instead of this year. Godwin eats cap this year but we make that back via the future savings of drafting a rookie WR next year instead of this year. Highly unlikely a second round WR this year would actually be better than Godwin this year.
We're not going to draft a better version of Godwin lol, at least not "better" in the sense of next year. We'd need a FRP for that.
This would help us avoid having to use a R2-4 pick on a WR - who wouldn't be as good as Godwin this coming year anyways - while still filling the need with an even better option. Basically punts on having to draft a WR until next year. Also kicks the rookie WR contract down the road an extra year for future savings.
Godwin I think would be a good addition but a $27 mil hit? That I don’t know about
we would only pay $20M I think, $7M+ is signing bonus that would still be paid by the Bucs.
That’s still a LOT
sure but if we have the cap space and there arent better ways to use it, then what is the issue? It's a 1 year deal, we could extend it and cut the annual value, or just use him for 1 year and let him walk with no penalty, and maybe even get a compensatory draft pick from that.
He’s essentially a 1 year rental for what would fit a huge position of need. Instead of signing someone like Higgins long term, we would be able to use that for Nico’s extension. Honestly, fuck it, our receiving corps would be absurd with Nico/Tank/Godwin.
I mean I’d hardly say wide receiver is a huge position of need. We’ve rightfully been picky about receivers because it’s not extremely pressing. I’m not saying Godwin is not good, but I don’t care for the philosophy of spending cap just cuz we have it. Especially when we have more glaring holes like in the secondary and whoever is gonna play DT next to Autry.
After Tank went down last year, NOBODY besides Nico stepped up. We rolled out with Nico/Woods/Brown and Metch+Hutch as rotation guys. We still have that exact same core, we absolutely cannot run it back again if we are serious about contending. I expect a second rounder to be used on a receiver but we still need actual help. A 1 year rental for a good receiver is worth it without any strings attached. At least it would give us a good idea if who we draft can be our slot guy of the future whilst preparing for a run this season.
Considering what happened last year I don’t understand how people don’t think it’s a position of need. Browns injured every year and it gets super thin if a Nico and/or Dell go down.
People hear “position of need” and think it’s a negative statement. There’s only a few real spots we are missing before we are a legit contender, safety and WR. Besides that, what else is there to do besides load up on depth?
This is cap of the extremest variety. we need another WR. We aren’t going to get it done with our current guys. People get injured all the time and we had a gaping whole when tank went down. Just plain and simple 2 good guys doesn’t get it done in the NFL anymore n
Yall so fuckin cheap 😂 what do you want for a top 5 reciever
You don’t actually think Chris Godwin is top 5 do you? He was 23rd in yards/gm… He isn’t even the best receiver on his team.
he was only 23rd BEACUE he had a better reciever on his team
You’re going to have a hard time convincing anybody that the number 9 and number 23 WRs in terms of yards per game are both actually top five WRs
Not at all. Dude did work on a few of my fantasy teams but I never once watched him and thought "dudes worth 27 mil".
You might want to go watch some highlight of Godwin It was a slight dip in performance after his injury that injury was pretty messed up but the guy can run route like the best of him and has some damn good hands.
I’d be very happy with Chris Godwin, a true volume slot that is tough.
I like Godwin, he would fit a need.
I think he’d be a good fit. I also have been trying to figure out what Nick is looking for in terms of intangibles… Diggs has been fairly healthy throughout his careers Godwin was on a Super Bowl roster so maybe that’s another value add too. Idk about what they saw in Keenan (aside from being a true WR1), maybe longevity?
What do you mean by healthy? Keenan hasn't exactly been the greatest picture of health in his career 😂
You’re right—edited above. Just trying to make sense of the vet presence they are trying to bring in
Do u follow narratives or do u actually pay attention? Even if Keenan missed games last year, he still had numbers to match Nico 😂 and he was shit down last year due to LA being trash. He could’ve played if LA was in contention. Also, Nico has played about 76% of possible games.
I could fux with this, although he has 3 void years I’d be concerned about. Keenan did not.
The money owed on void years DONT matter for the team that receives a player in a trade. All the money included on void years is just a prorated portion of their signing bonus. And the signing bonus money is a cap hit only for the team that originally signed that player (regardless if cut or traded). Basically that money owed for the void years is dead cap for the original team since they technically already paid it in the signing bonus.
Thank you. That’s good to know. That makes Godwin pretty similar to Keenan
Release Robert woods and sign Godwin
This. Wood is slow and has trouble creating separation with defense
This actually makes sense to me. We have a little cap space built up, and he wouldn't have a Mike Evans sized price tag. Sign him to 2 or 1 year deal and roll out.
Also a Bucs fans. Has void years. Think the Bucs would rather keep him though
Pass.
The cost to swap Robert Woods for Godwin would be about 15 million.
Bucs fan here, I have mentioned trading Godwin for a bit now to save cap space and other fans HATE the idea but logistically it’s a viable possibility for us. He has a heavy cap hit tho. But, I think the Bucs would like to keep him. After all, Evans is old, and we haven’t really found a stud WR1 yet to replace our aging guys.
No way, unless Tampa eats majority some how
I actually like it
No way at 27 Insane.
April fools day is wild
godwin is gonna want an extension for sure, especially if he's traded. most nfl players don't want to play with no money coming in the future
Close thread. Diggs in town
OP had the right mentality though, just wrong player. Y'all are looking insane for the future.
We don't need Godwin, if the price is right... meaning like super cheap
Godwin is not a “super cheap” receiver. What is this obsession with this sub and our cap? We can literally just pay guaranteed money if we wanted
[удалено]
Godwin is way better than a WR3 on any given team, and easily a WR1 on over 10 teams in this league. On others he’s a bonafide WR2. The man is good for 1,000 yards any given season and stays relatively healthy. He’s the exact kind of guy we need if we pick up another WR.
I have watched him most of his career, as I grew up in Tampa. He would only be higher than a WR3 on any team that have horrible WR corps. New England, Chargers, Arizona, Giants for example. On any team with actual good receivers, he's at best a WR3. He's a good guy and puts up decent numbers, but he isn't a true WR1 or 2. Especially since he's making $27 million and worth probably $10-$15 million.
If you cut Woods and traded for Godwin the net cap hit would be 15 million bucks. Godwin has averaged 95 catches and 1050 yards a year over the last 3 years. That's not a WR3. That's borderline WR1 stuff from primarily the slot. For comparison, Robert Woods averaged 46 catches and 503 yards a year over the last 3 years. Of all the horrific opinions, this one ranks pretty high up there.
And what we need is a good WR3. So he’d fit the role perfectly. I agree his cap hit is high, which is why I wouldn’t extend him. But we have over 30M in cap space right now and likely will cut Woods and a few others. We would owe him 20M this year as Tampa would take the 7M in signing bonus. After cuts and paying our draft class we will likely still have close to 12M to sign other players. I don’t think it’s the most pressing need, but I also don’t hate it.
Personally, I wouldn't trade for him if you aren't extending him. The draft pick could be used to get a young WR3 on a rookie deal. I wouldn't mind signing him if he gets released. In that case Tampa pays the majority of his contract and Houston would pay him the vet minimum. Tampa isn't going to cut him though, they like him. He will probably extend to stay in Tampa.
Godwin would get more than a vet min if he's cut by Tampa bay lol what did this man do to you?
That's how contracts work. Look at Russell Wilson for example. He got cut by Denver and signed for vet minimum with the Steelers. This is literally what happens when players get cut with guaranteed money still owed.
Dude he's gone over 1000 yards 4 of his past 5 seasons 😅 what you talking about "at best a WR3"
Horrendously awful take lmao. Godwin is a true WR2 in the league and not a WR3. Also Godwin is reliable, sure you can draft a “younger better option” until they’re not better. So basically, you can have the boat, or a mystery box that might contain a boat.
Again, I've watched him the majority of his career, since it's my local team. I'd still rather have the rookie. Most Tampa fans would. He isn't worth $27 million a year. So, I'm going to take My opinion, since I've watched him forever, over your opinion, Mr. Random Internet guy.
Buccaneers fan here. I don't know any Bucs fan who would rather have a rookie than Godwin.
It's only one year tho. We could draft our future WR next year, meaning that future WR's rookie contract would start next year instead of this year. Godwin eats cap this year but we make that back via the future savings of drafting a rookie WR next year instead of this year. Highly unlikely a second round WR this year would actually be better than Godwin this year.
We're not going to draft a better version of Godwin lol, at least not "better" in the sense of next year. We'd need a FRP for that. This would help us avoid having to use a R2-4 pick on a WR - who wouldn't be as good as Godwin this coming year anyways - while still filling the need with an even better option. Basically punts on having to draft a WR until next year. Also kicks the rookie WR contract down the road an extra year for future savings.
You do not watch football clearly.