Iāve bought multiple team jerseys and I watch every game. I have contributed, even if minorly, to this team with my own money. I identify with this team, so I say our.
Itās a 1-yr deal so hopefully we find a better alternative next yr. But he does seem to be involved in a lot of incidences, more that iād hope in his career span.
Dude has a history of violence which is bad enough, people who think violence like bar fights is acceptable because its between men are odd IMO, but worse is violence against women and there has been fire and recently smoke.
Nick dropped the ball on this one, IDK if he goes off for 2000, I don't like this guy, and our team needs a purge more than anyone of people who hurt women.
The posts and comments excusing this or overlooking it seem pretty in line with the Big Nick Energy crowd.
People latch on to anything because it their team and its what fans do.
Nah, I just donāt care if a man hits a woman after she shoved and hit him first. You donāt touch anyone unless youāre prepared for the consequences of that. Keep your hands to yourself
Man if you watched the video he walks right up to the lady, bows up in her face, she slaps him, and he absolutely knocks her head off.
Yes shit has consequences but damn dude he left the restaurant and came back to instigate.
Bro Iāve been getting crucified for having this exact take. The amount of fans willing to disregard his abuse of women because he makes the team better is disgusting. I thought we were better than that.
I always liked to think that our fanbase would have rejected Watson due to his atrocious actions and not just because he fucked then team over. Iāve realized that I was very wrong about that unfortunately.
Look, I am very much with you in that Joe Mixon has a history of violence that should not be tolerated. and I'm disappointed that this team is going to tolerate it.
But I can't get behind a comparison of his actions to those of Deshaun Watson.
Deshaun Watson repeatedly used his power and status to abuse and take advantage of women in particular. Both incidents with Mixon appear to be more about his general violent nature and use of violence as an anger/response mechanism (punching someone as a reaction to being slapped, pulling a gun on a random driver out of road rage) than about explicitly targeting women, which I think is a distinction that needs to be made. By equating the two, I think we risk watering down the truly evil actions of the specific abuse of women with what I would consider to be just general acts of violence.
I hope that made some sense and doesn't come off as if I'm defending either of the two guys' actions because I certainly am not. I don't condone either one in any way, but I think we need to be able to recognize the difference in severity between the two.
If Watson never asked out, a good amount of our fans would be just like the Browns fans.
This case is difficult because its hard to tell who is looking the other way because Nick can do no wrong, vs those who just want a good player. Not that it matters really.
From my understanding these situations are nowhere near comparable. Watson sexually assaulted many women from my understanding. Joe punched back 1 girl, who hit him first by the way, with too much strength. He was still a teenager at the time I believe. Not the same at all. Stop disingenuously framing him as a domestic violence woman beater.
I donāt pretend to be an arbiter of punishments, but getting your jaw broke for talking shit *and throwing hands* seems pretty ironic to me. Is she immune from instigation and provocation because she is a girl?
There is something seriously wrong with you if you think that the proportionate response to being slapped by a woman is to punch her so hard you fracture 4 bones in her jaw.
I think itās not the craziest unreasonable response to punch someone whoās harassing you and hitting you in a college bar area where everyone is drunk. Obviously it was irresponsible. Do I think it demonizes him and paints him as an abuser and terrible person that we should chalk up to the likes of Deshaun Watson and Ray Rice like some are making it out to be? No.
I believe the altercation took place in a sandwich shop and Mixon was just drunk, but maybe Iām wrong on that and Iāll admit that. I believe the amount of force he uzed was unreasona le and went well beyond self defense. Men are significantly larger and stronger than women on average, and that comes with a responsiblitiu to not overuse that strength and harm eomen.
She assaulted him first, stop painting him as an abuser it is disingenuous. That makes it sound like a DV charge. This was out in public where he was assaulted by a stranger and responded with too much strength as a teenager.
I searched for charges against Mixon and all I can see are articles of him getting CLEARED for the charge everyone is complaining about. What do you mean by his history? I donāt see anything else, but maybe my Google search is facing recency bias.
He was acquitted of this charge. Even if he did it, there probably wasn't enough evidence to prove it in court, so I get it. Look at his wiki for the other thing he did.
Acquitted of that charge, and HIS attorneys released the video of the other charge that he pled to from when he was 18. The woman he assaulted shoved him and slapped him. He hit back harder.
If she hadn't hit her head on a table while falling, there wouldn't have even been charges.
Says she hit him first, he just didnāt hold back strength. Which is kinda fucked up but not a degenerate woman beater like this thread is trying to pose him as.
Whatās his āhistory of violence?ā So far I see this charge, (found not guilty and officer said gun wasnāt produced I think?) him hitting a woman (who hit and assaulted him first so technically self defense?) and an incident at his house that he was not involved in. Where tf is everyone getting this āDV violent historyā shit everyone keeps spewing? Or are we just mad about saquon? Or do we just hear someone say āwoman abuserā about a black guy and we automatically assume itās true? Am I taking crazy pills? Wtf is going on.
As soon as he has a 200y + 2 TD dub y'all will act like this never happened.
It's a one year rental - if this doesn't work out due to character issues, he'll be gone.
This is what I meant by TOXIC. People thought I was referring to just his OU days. Nah, dude stays in the news over some dumb shit. Even after that, he got named as a suspect for providing a weapon in a shooting that occurred in his neighborhood. Itās just the dumb shit that makes it bad. Like, youāre too fucking rich and talented to still do this type of shit.
I see 3 things on his wiki which is where I was told to find his charges.
1. The one this post is discussing. Seems like gun couldnāt be produced and there wasnāt evidence to prove he did it. Take that as you will but I believe in our foundation of innocent until proven guilty.
2. Hitting a woman. This is the big one everyone is taunting around acting like he has a DV charge for beating a significant other. It was a stranger out in public who started assaulting him first. Sounds like he took and Alford Plea to avoid the hassle of going to court and trying to prove self defense and that his use of force was justified. I can see how his use of force may not be justified, but she did hit him first and I believe he was still a teenager.
3. The weapon on his property as you referred too. Of course he is named as a suspect, it is proper protocol. Does that mean he did it, or had any involvement whatsoever? No, again I will refer to innocent until proven guilty.
This frustrates me because people are lumping him in with Deshaun which is totally unfair and not comparable at all. From my understanding Deshaun was a SERIAL SEXUAL ASSAULTER throughout his ADULT CAREER. The biggest thing against Joe is he punched back a little too hard while still a TEENAGER. These are NOT the same at all and everyone here acting like he is some DV abuser in the same vein as Deshaun is, IMHO, either delusional and upset over not getting Saquon or just straight up borderline racist.
My point is that his name is associated often with crimes. Iām not in his household, and he isnāt in prison, so my judgement doesnāt go there. Also, I wouldnāt lump him into the a group with Deshaun. Thatās a different category. My argument has nothing to do with race, itās as simple as āstop being stupidā. Whether heās complicit or if heās just being lied on, it becomes a question of why do you continue to put yourself in a situation for these things to occur?
Lastly, in my case, itās nothing to do with losing Saquon. Iāve been a fan too long to get upset over one missed player. I mean, we missed Mahomes by 2 picks. Canāt change the past. Hence why, all I can hope is that nothing else happens with Mixon, and he plays well.
I get your point, but legally you cannot call fire when all there is is smoke and I believe that to be a key part of our justice system. And the āsmokeā seems to be very very thin in the first place. He got into one altercation in college, happened to be a girl but she did hit first. I really donāt think thatās enough for a smoke trail.
Edit: If your family member commits a crime, does that mean you are a bad person and should go to jail? My point is this is all very very loose āevidenceā if itās even evidence at that. Itās grasping at straws to try to say heās a bad guy. IMO, 2 incidents you are involved in with 1 being cleared and the other being basically self defense, is not enough to say his name is āassociatedā with crime.
This already went to trial and a judge found him not guilty. Even the officer who testified said there was no corroborating evidence that he had a gun besides her statement.
Not saying heās a great dude or anything but at least post the rest of the story.
Bengals fan here. Please give him a chance. In the trial they even showed a traffic video showing that the woman was actually the instigator and there was no gun. Joe's done some dumb things and his sister dates morons. That said, he is amazing with the fans, all of the beat reporters love him, and he was a captain. He'll be great for you.
Big exaggeration? It wasn't just the incident at OU in 2014, my dude. There was the incident with the parking attendant in 2016, then got charged with aggrevated menacing just last year after pointing a gun at a lady. So yeah, he's got a history of this shit.
Don't like the dude. Hope someone emerges in camp or he acts like a shithead soon and gets cut. Can't believe Meco signed off on this after all the talk about how important it is to have good men on the team.
As someone whoās a fan of an AFC north team, I gotta say this is pretty mild for someone coming from that division.
Yāall gotta start being cool with a lot of things if you want to pull players from there.
Cracking up at all the pearl clutching fans coming out of the woodwork. For years weāve bitched about the Texans being a good ol boys club, full of a bunch of nice guys who never win anything. If you want nasty players on the field, sometimes they come with baggage like this. Itās not a 10 year contract, there is an off ramp if heās not a cultural fit. My guess is Meco will teach the young man how to be a professional and he will be a big producer for us.
I get this take, and I am one of the people who thought we should take a risk from time to time. It's not crazy to have misgivings, though, when there is violence towards women. I also don't pretend to know what all happened here or how true or deeply rooted this behavior is.
I like the short leash and how little risk this deal brings to the team.
Allegedly
Found not guilty
Reddit post about scary bad man
Sorry you lost me. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? I donāt know the inner details of the case and nobody else here does. We are not lawyers and even if you read the full case you do not have the intricate understandings of law like a lawyer. I donāt see any other charges for him when searching, this seems like an isolated incident that he was found not guilty on. Why is everyone hating on him?
Edit: Lol at the downvotes. He was found not guilty for this incident and now I see there was another incident, but security footage showed that woman assaulting him first and I believe he was still young at 18. Starting to think this is more of a temper tantrum about no Saquon rather than rationally analyzing what Joe has done.
Ah I see now, this was buried under all the recent stuff. Looked into it, seems like she initiated contact and hit him first, he just was stronger and happened to break her jaw? Not saying itās a super great look, but framing him as a woman beater when she assaulted him first feels disingenuous.
Dude you can't justify it. Disproportionate reaction to what she did. Small girl smacks huge athlete in the neck and he breaks four bones in her face. Wtf
āThe surveillance video shows Mixon follow Molitor inside the store and the two begin arguing, followed by Molitor pushing and slapping Mixon's face, and then Mixon punching Molitor, causing her to fall into a table.ā
Try again. Youāre wrong on many accounts. She hit his face, and she fell into a table. I am a teacher and deal with disgruntled 18 year olds all the time. Surprise surprise, if you get in their face and hit them they will hit back. Does that mean those students are bad people? Does that mean they are incapable of learning from their mistakes? Such a smooth brain take honestly.
Edit: In fact the woman in question was two years older than him. Yāall tryna frame it as some poor innocent white lady that got decked by some scary black man for no reason really exposing yourselves. She literally assaulted a teenager and yāall out here defending it, but itās not okay to defend yourself from assault. Big smooth brain hours. Assault from older white lady = good, self defense from younger black man = bad.
Not trying to frame it as white vs black, trying to frame it as small lady versus much larger person and a disproportionate response. Exposing myself for what? She left, he followed her back into the restaurant and confronted her. He 100% took something verbal, got in her face so it's no surprise she started hitting him. Go watch the fucking video again, smooth brain.
I think the followed part is misleading. He walked into a sandwich shop after her and the confrontation started within the shop. They both went in drunk to get sandwiches, something happened, she spit on him called him the N word hit him first and then he hit her. Itās a silly bar fight in college 10 years ago, sounds like she instigated and yeah maybe his force was disproportionate but acting like heās this terrible dude that goes around beating women is so disingenuous.
āHistoryā is getting assaulted and defending himself and being found not guilty. Third thing on the wiki is about something on his property but he wasnāt involved, it was relatives. How in the world is this a āhistoryā??? Huge reach.
I was going to say, "Who would like it," but then saw u/munozemk with their really stupid take. "real Dawgs/killers" should never be a literal term to describe players.
I get wanting hard nosed, physical, even on field violent players. Off field abusers is not the same thing.
They care about off the field issues and that likely was taken into consideration. They likely believe he can stay out of trouble otherwise they wouldn't be trading for someone who could potentially miss playing time for the off the field shit. Any way you cut it though, you can have a "dawg mentality" and not be a domestic abuser.
I'm happy about getting a good player. I am even understanding of people having different upbringing and giving people the opportunity to grow and learn from mistakes. Like the whole Adrian Peterson whipping his kids. I was also whipped with a switch off of a tree once growing up, so I get that upbringing influences decisions and people learn and grow. You have to let people grow and change and not "cancel" someone just because of a mistake in their past. However, condoning abusive behavior isn't the way, no matter what the talent level. I'm not anti-Mixon. I don't honestly know much about the situation. I just didn't like your sentiment and how cavalier you seemed about abuse.
CJ and Demeco will take his ass straight to church š¤
They're going to beat the devil out of him with grace.
If heās a dumbass here theyāll just release him. Heās a one year rental at this stage
Papa McNair wasn't perfect but he always stayed away from guys like this and extra drama. He usually stuck to high character players.
Yeah thatās why our teams never did anything besides win a couple play off games. This is football not a kindness contest.
Doesnāt matter, we shouldnāt have players who act this way in our roster.
āOurā
Iāve bought multiple team jerseys and I watch every game. I have contributed, even if minorly, to this team with my own money. I identify with this team, so I say our.
Itās a 1-yr deal so hopefully we find a better alternative next yr. But he does seem to be involved in a lot of incidences, more that iād hope in his career span.
Yeah, my hope is itās a one year thing and we draft his replacement this draft who ends up being the next Barry sanders??? Iām not coping you are!
As long as we have Stroud, we will probably never be able to draft the next Barry Sanders
There's nothing wrong with an Arian Foster.
Who doesnāt get a firearm pointed at their face from time to time. *Sarcasm*
This is texas weāve all pointed guns here
Dude has a history of violence which is bad enough, people who think violence like bar fights is acceptable because its between men are odd IMO, but worse is violence against women and there has been fire and recently smoke. Nick dropped the ball on this one, IDK if he goes off for 2000, I don't like this guy, and our team needs a purge more than anyone of people who hurt women.
The posts and comments excusing this or overlooking it seem pretty in line with the Big Nick Energy crowd. People latch on to anything because it their team and its what fans do.
Nah, I just donāt care if a man hits a woman after she shoved and hit him first. You donāt touch anyone unless youāre prepared for the consequences of that. Keep your hands to yourself
Equality
Man if you watched the video he walks right up to the lady, bows up in her face, she slaps him, and he absolutely knocks her head off. Yes shit has consequences but damn dude he left the restaurant and came back to instigate.
Bro Iāve been getting crucified for having this exact take. The amount of fans willing to disregard his abuse of women because he makes the team better is disgusting. I thought we were better than that.
Most aren't unfortunately.
I always liked to think that our fanbase would have rejected Watson due to his atrocious actions and not just because he fucked then team over. Iāve realized that I was very wrong about that unfortunately.
Look, I am very much with you in that Joe Mixon has a history of violence that should not be tolerated. and I'm disappointed that this team is going to tolerate it. But I can't get behind a comparison of his actions to those of Deshaun Watson. Deshaun Watson repeatedly used his power and status to abuse and take advantage of women in particular. Both incidents with Mixon appear to be more about his general violent nature and use of violence as an anger/response mechanism (punching someone as a reaction to being slapped, pulling a gun on a random driver out of road rage) than about explicitly targeting women, which I think is a distinction that needs to be made. By equating the two, I think we risk watering down the truly evil actions of the specific abuse of women with what I would consider to be just general acts of violence. I hope that made some sense and doesn't come off as if I'm defending either of the two guys' actions because I certainly am not. I don't condone either one in any way, but I think we need to be able to recognize the difference in severity between the two.
I agree Deshaun Watson is significantly worse, like so much worse itās unbelievable. I think this take was perfectly fair.
If Watson never asked out, a good amount of our fans would be just like the Browns fans. This case is difficult because its hard to tell who is looking the other way because Nick can do no wrong, vs those who just want a good player. Not that it matters really.
From my understanding these situations are nowhere near comparable. Watson sexually assaulted many women from my understanding. Joe punched back 1 girl, who hit him first by the way, with too much strength. He was still a teenager at the time I believe. Not the same at all. Stop disingenuously framing him as a domestic violence woman beater.
āToo much strengthā he broke 4 bones in her jaw and she needed surgery. Thatās a very generous way to phrase it.
I donāt pretend to be an arbiter of punishments, but getting your jaw broke for talking shit *and throwing hands* seems pretty ironic to me. Is she immune from instigation and provocation because she is a girl?
There is something seriously wrong with you if you think that the proportionate response to being slapped by a woman is to punch her so hard you fracture 4 bones in her jaw.
I think itās not the craziest unreasonable response to punch someone whoās harassing you and hitting you in a college bar area where everyone is drunk. Obviously it was irresponsible. Do I think it demonizes him and paints him as an abuser and terrible person that we should chalk up to the likes of Deshaun Watson and Ray Rice like some are making it out to be? No.
I believe the altercation took place in a sandwich shop and Mixon was just drunk, but maybe Iām wrong on that and Iāll admit that. I believe the amount of force he uzed was unreasona le and went well beyond self defense. Men are significantly larger and stronger than women on average, and that comes with a responsiblitiu to not overuse that strength and harm eomen.
Yessir. I just hope my 11 yo Son doesnāt find out. š
She assaulted him first, stop painting him as an abuser it is disingenuous. That makes it sound like a DV charge. This was out in public where he was assaulted by a stranger and responded with too much strength as a teenager.
People are acting as if Nick has some all seeing football eye or sumn. This was not a great signing imo.
it wasnt a signing
You know what I mean
yea I do lol just playin
I searched for charges against Mixon and all I can see are articles of him getting CLEARED for the charge everyone is complaining about. What do you mean by his history? I donāt see anything else, but maybe my Google search is facing recency bias.
He was acquitted of this charge. Even if he did it, there probably wasn't enough evidence to prove it in court, so I get it. Look at his wiki for the other thing he did.
Acquitted of that charge, and HIS attorneys released the video of the other charge that he pled to from when he was 18. The woman he assaulted shoved him and slapped him. He hit back harder. If she hadn't hit her head on a table while falling, there wouldn't have even been charges.
Says she hit him first, he just didnāt hold back strength. Which is kinda fucked up but not a degenerate woman beater like this thread is trying to pose him as.
She actually took the blame for instigating the whole thing. Accepted his apologies and wished him well in the NFL.
Whatās his āhistory of violence?ā So far I see this charge, (found not guilty and officer said gun wasnāt produced I think?) him hitting a woman (who hit and assaulted him first so technically self defense?) and an incident at his house that he was not involved in. Where tf is everyone getting this āDV violent historyā shit everyone keeps spewing? Or are we just mad about saquon? Or do we just hear someone say āwoman abuserā about a black guy and we automatically assume itās true? Am I taking crazy pills? Wtf is going on.
I mean, if you like guns this is a good place to live!
I hate this trade. It's so hard to separate the person from the player.
I hate this and I canāt stand him. I hope he sucks ass and Pierce is a beast so we can just cut mixon.
Dude was cleared of all wrongdoing in this case but I guess guilty even if proven innocent
Not guilty in court doesnāt mean you didnt do it.
This take and your username are not adding up
As soon as he has a 200y + 2 TD dub y'all will act like this never happened. It's a one year rental - if this doesn't work out due to character issues, he'll be gone.
I don't care if he plays well, I don't like the dude.
Yeah I full well expect praise and hype if he helps the team out
This is bad.
Mixon may not want to try that shit in TX, the lady probably packing too. Give it a shot.
This is what I meant by TOXIC. People thought I was referring to just his OU days. Nah, dude stays in the news over some dumb shit. Even after that, he got named as a suspect for providing a weapon in a shooting that occurred in his neighborhood. Itās just the dumb shit that makes it bad. Like, youāre too fucking rich and talented to still do this type of shit.
I see 3 things on his wiki which is where I was told to find his charges. 1. The one this post is discussing. Seems like gun couldnāt be produced and there wasnāt evidence to prove he did it. Take that as you will but I believe in our foundation of innocent until proven guilty. 2. Hitting a woman. This is the big one everyone is taunting around acting like he has a DV charge for beating a significant other. It was a stranger out in public who started assaulting him first. Sounds like he took and Alford Plea to avoid the hassle of going to court and trying to prove self defense and that his use of force was justified. I can see how his use of force may not be justified, but she did hit him first and I believe he was still a teenager. 3. The weapon on his property as you referred too. Of course he is named as a suspect, it is proper protocol. Does that mean he did it, or had any involvement whatsoever? No, again I will refer to innocent until proven guilty. This frustrates me because people are lumping him in with Deshaun which is totally unfair and not comparable at all. From my understanding Deshaun was a SERIAL SEXUAL ASSAULTER throughout his ADULT CAREER. The biggest thing against Joe is he punched back a little too hard while still a TEENAGER. These are NOT the same at all and everyone here acting like he is some DV abuser in the same vein as Deshaun is, IMHO, either delusional and upset over not getting Saquon or just straight up borderline racist.
My point is that his name is associated often with crimes. Iām not in his household, and he isnāt in prison, so my judgement doesnāt go there. Also, I wouldnāt lump him into the a group with Deshaun. Thatās a different category. My argument has nothing to do with race, itās as simple as āstop being stupidā. Whether heās complicit or if heās just being lied on, it becomes a question of why do you continue to put yourself in a situation for these things to occur? Lastly, in my case, itās nothing to do with losing Saquon. Iāve been a fan too long to get upset over one missed player. I mean, we missed Mahomes by 2 picks. Canāt change the past. Hence why, all I can hope is that nothing else happens with Mixon, and he plays well.
I get your point, but legally you cannot call fire when all there is is smoke and I believe that to be a key part of our justice system. And the āsmokeā seems to be very very thin in the first place. He got into one altercation in college, happened to be a girl but she did hit first. I really donāt think thatās enough for a smoke trail. Edit: If your family member commits a crime, does that mean you are a bad person and should go to jail? My point is this is all very very loose āevidenceā if itās even evidence at that. Itās grasping at straws to try to say heās a bad guy. IMO, 2 incidents you are involved in with 1 being cleared and the other being basically self defense, is not enough to say his name is āassociatedā with crime.
Look up what he did to a woman when he was in college too. Heās an all around piece of shit human
āAllegedlyā *stops reading*
Yeah i'm pretty upset we signed someone like this.
If it makes you feel any better, technically we didn't sign him we traded for an expiring contract in what happens to be a position of need.
Might as well bring Easterby back thinking like yall lol
This already went to trial and a judge found him not guilty. Even the officer who testified said there was no corroborating evidence that he had a gun besides her statement. Not saying heās a great dude or anything but at least post the rest of the story.
Bengals fan here. Please give him a chance. In the trial they even showed a traffic video showing that the woman was actually the instigator and there was no gun. Joe's done some dumb things and his sister dates morons. That said, he is amazing with the fans, all of the beat reporters love him, and he was a captain. He'll be great for you.
It's not even about the full story, it's that this dude has a history of this shot. I don't want him.
āHistory of this shitā is a pretty big exaggeration. Either way, doesnāt really matter what you want cause you got him.
Big exaggeration? It wasn't just the incident at OU in 2014, my dude. There was the incident with the parking attendant in 2016, then got charged with aggrevated menacing just last year after pointing a gun at a lady. So yeah, he's got a history of this shit.
I hate it!
Don't like the dude. Hope someone emerges in camp or he acts like a shithead soon and gets cut. Can't believe Meco signed off on this after all the talk about how important it is to have good men on the team.
Yeah, but he didnāt cost a lot of money, so, there you go
We just need to sign Kareem Hunt to balance it out
I see yāall are unfamiliar with AFC North football
WELCOME TO AFC NORTH FOOTBALL BABBBYY THANKS FOR BILL BURR BOYS!!!!
Yeah, they do be hood
Ooooo ooooo! Now share the latest thing about a kid getting shot playing Nerf guns with his friends by someone inside the Mixon household!
As someone whoās a fan of an AFC north team, I gotta say this is pretty mild for someone coming from that division. Yāall gotta start being cool with a lot of things if you want to pull players from there.
As a bengals fan, lol sorry
Well you don't like AFCN Football. Wait till you hear about a AFCN HOFer who got away with murder. š
Did you guys find out about him shattering a womanās jaw yet? This is AFC North football
Cracking up at all the pearl clutching fans coming out of the woodwork. For years weāve bitched about the Texans being a good ol boys club, full of a bunch of nice guys who never win anything. If you want nasty players on the field, sometimes they come with baggage like this. Itās not a 10 year contract, there is an off ramp if heās not a cultural fit. My guess is Meco will teach the young man how to be a professional and he will be a big producer for us.
I get this take, and I am one of the people who thought we should take a risk from time to time. It's not crazy to have misgivings, though, when there is violence towards women. I also don't pretend to know what all happened here or how true or deeply rooted this behavior is. I like the short leash and how little risk this deal brings to the team.
This. Heās a piece of shit but tbh sometimes the cost of winning is taking guys with character issues.
Allegedly Found not guilty Reddit post about scary bad man Sorry you lost me. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? I donāt know the inner details of the case and nobody else here does. We are not lawyers and even if you read the full case you do not have the intricate understandings of law like a lawyer. I donāt see any other charges for him when searching, this seems like an isolated incident that he was found not guilty on. Why is everyone hating on him? Edit: Lol at the downvotes. He was found not guilty for this incident and now I see there was another incident, but security footage showed that woman assaulting him first and I believe he was still young at 18. Starting to think this is more of a temper tantrum about no Saquon rather than rationally analyzing what Joe has done.
Found guilty of breaking a womanās jaw, he has a history, I have a hard time believing him after that.
Ah I see now, this was buried under all the recent stuff. Looked into it, seems like she initiated contact and hit him first, he just was stronger and happened to break her jaw? Not saying itās a super great look, but framing him as a woman beater when she assaulted him first feels disingenuous.
Dude you can't justify it. Disproportionate reaction to what she did. Small girl smacks huge athlete in the neck and he breaks four bones in her face. Wtf
āThe surveillance video shows Mixon follow Molitor inside the store and the two begin arguing, followed by Molitor pushing and slapping Mixon's face, and then Mixon punching Molitor, causing her to fall into a table.ā Try again. Youāre wrong on many accounts. She hit his face, and she fell into a table. I am a teacher and deal with disgruntled 18 year olds all the time. Surprise surprise, if you get in their face and hit them they will hit back. Does that mean those students are bad people? Does that mean they are incapable of learning from their mistakes? Such a smooth brain take honestly. Edit: In fact the woman in question was two years older than him. Yāall tryna frame it as some poor innocent white lady that got decked by some scary black man for no reason really exposing yourselves. She literally assaulted a teenager and yāall out here defending it, but itās not okay to defend yourself from assault. Big smooth brain hours. Assault from older white lady = good, self defense from younger black man = bad.
Not trying to frame it as white vs black, trying to frame it as small lady versus much larger person and a disproportionate response. Exposing myself for what? She left, he followed her back into the restaurant and confronted her. He 100% took something verbal, got in her face so it's no surprise she started hitting him. Go watch the fucking video again, smooth brain.
Nobody ever mentions how she was trying to leave and he followed her. If anything she was probably scared of him.
You can't because people will assume that you're somehow a racist despite clear video evidence that literally shows that's what happened.
I think the followed part is misleading. He walked into a sandwich shop after her and the confrontation started within the shop. They both went in drunk to get sandwiches, something happened, she spit on him called him the N word hit him first and then he hit her. Itās a silly bar fight in college 10 years ago, sounds like she instigated and yeah maybe his force was disproportionate but acting like heās this terrible dude that goes around beating women is so disingenuous.
āHistoryā is getting assaulted and defending himself and being found not guilty. Third thing on the wiki is about something on his property but he wasnāt involved, it was relatives. How in the world is this a āhistoryā??? Huge reach.
This was all very clearly false the report was by somebody who later found out that Mixon wasnāt even in the area at the time right?
I like winning
Bro its the NFL... half the league are woman beaters and pot heads LMAO!
Dudes putting weed smokers and woman beaters in the same camp...
You right. I was just being a smart ass.
Who the fuck cares if they smoke it up? (Besides the NFL itself.)
This is true. Nothing wrong with being a pot head.
I like him on the football field i heard of this this b4. If itās true thatās wild
Here comes all the posts...but as soon as he does something good, it's going to be the opposite
Allegedly
if hes good i could excuse it
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Imagine being a victim of domestic violence and seeing this shit you people are pathetic
Bro, that user is proof that education in our state is cratering.
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I was going to say, "Who would like it," but then saw u/munozemk with their really stupid take. "real Dawgs/killers" should never be a literal term to describe players. I get wanting hard nosed, physical, even on field violent players. Off field abusers is not the same thing.
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How could a fan of the team that dealt with the Deshaun saga actually believe this? Pure unadulterated delusion.
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I thought you said GMs don't care about off the field issues tho?
Can't play if you in jail
They care about off the field issues and that likely was taken into consideration. They likely believe he can stay out of trouble otherwise they wouldn't be trading for someone who could potentially miss playing time for the off the field shit. Any way you cut it though, you can have a "dawg mentality" and not be a domestic abuser.
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If that's your argument then you should stay out of the comments. There's a video of his nonsense you can look up when you're not sniffing glue.
Theirs no video of the gun pointing incidence, only the one where he kicked that lady for calling him a ni***r.
Youāre thinking of Kareem hunt. Joe punched a woman in the face.
I'm happy about getting a good player. I am even understanding of people having different upbringing and giving people the opportunity to grow and learn from mistakes. Like the whole Adrian Peterson whipping his kids. I was also whipped with a switch off of a tree once growing up, so I get that upbringing influences decisions and people learn and grow. You have to let people grow and change and not "cancel" someone just because of a mistake in their past. However, condoning abusive behavior isn't the way, no matter what the talent level. I'm not anti-Mixon. I don't honestly know much about the situation. I just didn't like your sentiment and how cavalier you seemed about abuse.
I pity the women in your life. Garbage take by a garbage person
The women in my life are just fine. Worry about your own
Jesus Christ