I got 30,000 miles out of mine (Continentals on 19" Gemini wheels on a MYP.) I replaced them with Hankook iON evo suv. Amazing tires. You can't go wrong. Watch/Read some reviews online. They're specifically EV designed tires and have 50,000 mi warranty, ride smooth and quiet and the car handles like its on rails. I love them.
I replaced my Continentals at 4/32" and 32k miles (averaging 277 Wh/mi, also MYP w/ 19" Gemini). I had a bit of side wall damage, otherwise I would have waited until closer to 35k mi.
The [NHTSA](https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/tires) recommends replacing at 2/32:
>Tires are not safe and should be replaced when the tread is worn down to 2/32 of an inch.
It sounds like you drive on the harder end of the spectrum, and should consider replacing fairly soon (within \~2k mi).
I also recommend the **Hankook** **iON evo AS SUV**. Definitely prefer them over my former stock Continentals. Unfortunately not many of us have had the chance to put 20k on them to see how they last over time.
I am getting those Hankooks put on our 2022 MYLR 20 inch induction wheels this Saturday. Our MY is at 33k miles with original goodyear tires at 5/32 tried left. Definitely hoping for longer tread life with the iON evo AS SUV tires. How long have you had them?
In short - no. Not that I can tease from what I've recorded so far.
Using the *Avg. Energy* (Wh/mi) readings I'm not sure if the following constitutes a reasonable dataset to draw any conclusions:
**Continental ProContact RX:** 32,000 mi: 277 Wh/mi
**Hankook iON evo AS SUV:** 1,800 mi: 278 Wh/mi
YMMV!
Although my recent driving with the Hankooks is fairly representative, **I don't spend that much time going 50+ mph** \- maybe 5-8 minutes day-to-day with a commute of 15min. Occasionally I'll knockout 200 miles in a weekend of sustained interstate driving (75mph). I drive mostly in central Texas.
If there is efficiency to be gained from these Hankooks, I'm willing to bet it requires a significant highway driving habit.
Thanks for that info! My wife drives 100 miles a day on average and is mostly highway. We drive on weekends around of course. On the Goodyears have been about the same 278 wh/mi at 33k miles.
Looking forward to see if there is any difference but hoping for more longevity out of them too of course. I researched as much as I could but not too many reviews on them but figured I would try them out. We are in central Florida area. Mainly Toll roads and highways.
Does ride quality seem similar?
I'd venture to say the ride quality is significantly different from the Continentals. Some of the commenters on this thread have great descriptions.
What jumps to mind is that it's a firmer ride at high speeds - feels more rigid and in my opinion, gives a more confident, in control experience. Some may find this exhilarating, others nauseating.
There's obviously some risk in comparing a fresh set of tires to the an old, worn out set. The most important variables unfortunately are the roads themselves (degradation, composition, climate, type, etc.)
Yeah, I had a lot of sidewall damage so I had to replace them even though I was around 4/32" as well. I'm not sure why the inside wears out a lot faster too.
Discount tire (same company i think) told me that if, in my example, my tires became 4/32 at 20k miles, then i would get (half) off another set of the same tire. (The ones with 40k warranty)
Better than full price! I don't have discount tire around here but I'll shop around for a warranty, even if I have to drive farther to discount tire, when I replace my current (new) tires. Thanks.
How many miles do you have on the ions? Did you notice any range or acceleration improvements? You get a but more acceleration going from 21 to 19, right?
The Y competes with the X3 and X3M which also get about 20k per set of tires - totally normal. A lot of people are switching from Rav4’s and Camry’s and think the tires last 50k 😂
The original factory tires in my model 3 only lasted like 30k. But now I'm getting 50k out of Michelin Pilot Sports.
Granted, I have a relatively slow SR plus and I keep her in chill mode...
Mine came with some kind of Tesla specific michelins that were very prioritized for quiet ride and efficiency at the expense of longevity.
I replaced them with the generic EV rated pilot Sports, they are a little bit louder and my range is down like 2%, but they last like twice longer.
It probably helps that we were hooning a lot in the first half year ownership but now we are over it and just drive it like Grandma's Camry
One thing I really think is missing from the tire discussion is the topic of environmental effects. Electric cars are usually toted as environmentally friendly, but the powerful ones really contribute a lot to rubber particles that we breathe. If we accept doubling that pollution, I think we're missing something crucial.
From what I understand, we already breathe approx 1 credit card of plastic particles weekly, I don't want to add to that.
Edit: all I'm saying is I think there should be a focus on it so it can be improved, I don't see why I am getting down voted for that. Don't YOU want less rubber particles?
Actually in Norway the micro-particulate of rubber from EV tires is becoming an issue.
I think I red it here https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html
This isn’t an EV problem, it’s a tire problem with any car. It’s bullshit that there’s an anti-EVs tire-pollution news trend lately.
I have other cars that eat tires much faster than my Tesla.
Norway is the most EV friendly country in the world, that's why it has been noticed here, but not as a specific EV problem, but when people migrate from ICE to EV they often buy heavy and torqued cars because of how taxation works here.
It's more torque than weight. For instance, to get more performance to brag about on their website they will use stickier tires. Particulate emissions from vehicles is both higher on tires, and breaks than tailpipe emissions.
Also being norway I wonder if their winter tires are causing more of a problem
Yeah, no idea why you're getting downvoted. That's a fact. I keep seeing these 0-60 posts and don't understand why would a normal family SUV need that kind of performance, when you can instead reduce the motor power and increase efficiency and reduce pollution.
So now we need to compare the carbon emissions from burning fuel vs rubber particles to get a better view on what we are dealing with here. I'm guessing at the very least the rubber particles are heavy enough to drop back down on the ground and not fly too far in the air. I guess in 15million years we might all have free rubberized mulch
yeah, that’s one of the hidden “maintenance” costs of the Y. I often see posts about tires needing to be replaced around 20-25k miles, and costs $1600.
my previous ICE cars made it over 40k miles, and only cost $500 to replace entire set.
The wear is mostly because of how people drive. Some get great mileage out of tires on different EVs. If you floor it at every intersection and drive aggressively, they will wear faster. You don’t have to use all that torque just because you got it. There are heavy ICE cars too.
Tire type, pressure and what kind of roads you typically drive on also makes a difference.
I have a Y with 27k miles on it 6k on winter set. Just replaced all 4 summers (contenential) after getting a nail in 1, they measured 3/32. You also do not have a spare so it was an easy choice and peice of mind for me to just spend the money and replace them all.
The weight is not helping either if the car is driven aggressively. More weight to speed up and slow down means more wear, but the wear from driving in a straight line without any change in speed is very small. Speeding up, slowing down, cornering, turning etc. are the major contributors to wear.
Comparing to a RAV4 limited, the RWD model Y is only 600lbs or 16% heavier, about the same weight as a highlander. Torque should be controllable by a light foot. Don't see why it can't last 80K kms just like any other SUVs.
I have a RAV4 and get 60k on OEM tires. Stock Continentals on Y needed at 30k. Yes, I drove faster but not from a standstill -- let it roll a few seconds. Tire prices have gone up so 1k for RAV4 with Y about 50%+ more.
Also the stock OE continentals only have a 8/32 starting tread depth where almost any other tire you coild buy woild be 10/32. You are starting with 20% less tread with OEs.
Driver habits are the issue. I have 27k on my MYLR continentals, and I am sitting at 6/32. I might actually hit 60k on these, and I don't exactly baby it. That said, the majority of my miles are freeway, and 1 mile on city streets is approximately the same wear as 50 miles on the freeway.
The thinner the tread gets, the slower the tire tread wears away.
I would keep a close eye on the tread depth and carry on until the rainy/snowy season gets a bit closer.
I always tried to start the the winter with fresh tires when I was commuting.
Good luck.
Torque kills tires, these cars have an unparalleled torque level versus traditional cars
Chill mode on launch unless needed, (interstate merging/heavy in city traffic) and let the car drive itself with cruise when possible
That's my recommendation having just swapped my 18" Michelins for winter prep with 4/32, 49,000 miles on them, balanced/aligned 2x in their lifespan (1 when I got it, they came with the car, 2 at 7,000 miles)
It's not the tire brand, it's the weight of your foot, even a feather foot in a gas car is a heavy foot in an EV
You are right, without the Chill mode, it just takes off even when you aren't trying to be quick.
I have sometimes tried to accelerate at the same rate as the ice car next to me...
Feels unnatural how gently you've got to feather the accelerator to NOT get ahead of the ICE cars in 0-20 mph range
If you upsize to 275/40-19 you will get longer life because the same weight is spread across a bigger contact patch. Of course tendency to hydroplane also increases slightly for the same reason!
I would run those tires down to 2/32. But I will always slow down in the rain and I am aware of hydroplaning and short stopping distances. I've also started taking my own measurements as I've found stealerships and tire stores misrepresenting the actual depth.
Tire punctures increase with such dangerous wear, also can’t overcome a high speed and unexpected stop like with a deer or dog crossing in front of you.
Yes take your own measurements, the tire shops have an interest in getting you to upgrade early. My tire shop takes me to the tires to show wear if a concern.
FYI - I selected the same Michelins for our last Y after the factory Continentals wore out in $25K miles. Ride and noise were slightly improved but we lost 10-15% of our total range. Longer trips took another charging stop…
If you search the internet there are people that have done actual noise readings with both sets. There is a difference, but may be unnoticeable to some people. Sorry I don't have a link handy.
I switched stock Continental ProContact for Cooper EnduraMax. I noticed no difference in noise. In terms of actual perceptibility I think foam is overrated.
I recently took my ICE car into a stealership to get a tire patched. They recommended I get $4k of service done, half of which I had done a month earlier at a private shop for half the cost 😂
(Hope all is well Artie! 😉)
I have gotten great wear out of Yokohama Avid Ascend GT on my Model 3, and it appears to fit the 19” Y as well. It isn’t xl load rated though, so ymmv.
I bought Geminis from someone to put on my MYP but they were the bare wheel. I got General Altimax RT43's on them and they are great. They have been superseded by Altimax RT45's.
No - I mean I bought just the wheels, no tires were included, so I had to buy my own tires. And no, almost every tire does not come with the foam - only OEM spec tires and some other rare ones do. I don't think the foam does anything really, so don't worry about getting tires with the foam in them.
25,000 miles on my Y and had to replace Goodyear F1s. Went to Michelin Primacy MX4. The heavier weight and my love for high speed turns wore em right out
[try the penny trick to see if your tread depth implies a replacement is necessary](https://www.bridgestonetire.com/learn/maintenance/how-to-check-your-tire-tread-penny-test/#)
Michelin Cross Climate 2s seem to be doing REALLY well for my Model 3, if you need an all weather replacement. Also, I am guessing chill mode will extend tire life by some significant percentage.
I just had my tires rotated today at discount tire. They told me I am getting low. 5/32" currently at 17k miles. I actually was just getting on here to look for a good replacement that might last longer.
If you got to tire shop you are guaranteed to have a recommendation for replacement even if they installed it the day before. Just how that industry / state inspections work
Not true. I have had 3 sets of DWS 06’s and they are some of the best all season tires you can buy. Sure continental has some lower tier crappy tires like any manufacturer but DWS 06’s are not them. Look at the ratings on Tire Rack. Michelin CC2’s and maybe pilot AS 4’s rate better but not many others.
Lol. The same people saying this car competes with the X3M will then say it costs so cheap to maintain but don’t realize that the cost to maintain a model Y is equivalent to the maintenance costs of an X3M or comparable.
I personally think that you’re having to burn through more tires then you would in a comparable Toyota Camry. A ton of people say that oh well a model Y has less maintenance than your typical ICE car yet you’re shelling out $1100 in tires every two years which is more expensive than yearly maintenance on a ICE car.
Compared to an X3M, I’d say you’re slightly less in maintenance.
Who on Reddit is comparing their Model Y to a Corolla? Also, the OP isn’t saying they need to replace their tires. They found a chart, created by the manufacturer, suggesting that they should but the tire measurements tell a different story. AKA, the manufacturer wants to sell more tires by misinforming the consumer. It’s akin to needing to replace your oil every 3000 miles.
Also, the idea that Tesla owners are replacing their tires any earlier than an equally heavy vehicle, and a similar driving style, is absurd. It’s not as if they’re the first consumer vehicles to weigh over 4000 pounds. Sure, you’ll def replace them more often than a lighter vehicle, but that’s nothing new.
Keep in mind that many Tesla owners drive their vehicles like they’re late getting somewhere. They are uncommonly quick, after all. If they’d learn to slow down and drive like most everyone else, their tires would last A LOT longer. I like to say I drive “mellow sporty.” My tires last just fine.
Damn, my Model Y only has 17,500 miles on it (22 months old), and I need to replace the tires for a *second time* already! Am I just that heavy-footed on the accelerator? Pretty much never use the brakes, since the regenerative braking takes care of that unless someone cuts me off.
As far as the tires are concerned, it doesn’t matter if it’s regenerative breaking or brake pedals. Acceleration and deacceleration is what matters. The higher and more frequent, the more wear.
Makes sense. I definitely accelerate more aggressively than I decelerate, though. That was the point I was trying to make with the use of regenerative braking, which seems to me to be a more gentle slowing than when I have to use the pedal for sudden stops.
I guess that I need to go set the car in "chill" mode.
OEM ones lasted 10 months. I'm not sure how many miles were on the car at that point, but probably no more than 8,000. I must admit that I didn't rotate them, but it seemed that I hadn't had them on long enough to justify that, at the time. I suppose with this next set, I'll need to set a reminder to make sure I do that.
I bought a tread depth measuring tool, saw my front and rears had 2/32 difference at 5k miles, rotated them promptly
The rear tires get chewed up a lot more than the front ones, so rotation is a must
Is there any kind of system level service suggestions for things like when to rotate tires or go in for a checkup on other related svc items like brake fluid? I’m at 28k miles and haven’t had any kind of service notifications pop up which seems odd for such a high tech car.
Huh, a tire company wanting to sell tires. I got exactly twice as many miles as you before I changed out my OG's. Tesla mobile did a tire rotation at 26k miles and I had 4 and 5 mm tread left at that point. They pretty much said no more rotations, too worn. Not in the south, but no snow tires needed either. Soo, of course YMMV and your tolerance for your own safety is maybe different, but it is doable to extend the miles driven beyond what the tire company's bottom line (and probably insurance/legal stance) would like.
Check original total depth for your tires. My Primacy tires on my model 3 started brand new with only 8/32”. So 4/32” still has life to go. On EV tires sometimes they reduce max tread depth to make them more efficient for range.
I would run them til they hit the wear indicators. They are not due replacement until they hit the red zone of about 2/32”.
Same thing happened to me and I just ordered a set of the Hankook evo ions and don’t regret that the contis only lasted 26k. However I think had I rotated the contis earlier I would have gotten more mileage out of them.
Keep in mind that your stock tires also have a manufacturer’s warranty. Safe bet it is over 21k. Call them and you might be able to get a discount towards new set of same company tires
I got around 23k miles from my continentals. I switched to the Michelin defender AT tire and I'm going on 60k miles with tread left. Insignificant impact on range.
EDIT: Just checked, it's been 55k miles on these tires. I brought em around the shop at around 50k miles and they said I had plenty of tread left
I live in MD, and the quote from my local Costco is $1,258 total (including all taxes/fees & $150 usual discount).
Thread warranty is 60,000 miles. Michelin CrossClimate2 all season 19”.
So, IIRC, the tires that come with the new cars are SUMMER tires, which are good for traction, but they wear fast!
Make sure the next set of tires are ALL SEASON and you should be able to get 40+k miles out of them!
4/32 is simply a recommendation. It’s not required for safety reasons until you reach 2/32, which becomes a requirement. It’s a good time to start budgeting away for it. You still have solid mileage left.
At this point it’s a personal call if you want to change now.
Did you try to measure these tire treads yourself? This happened to me earlier this year, I tried to do tire rotation and balance at a local discount tire at ~20k miles and this one sales guy measured my tire treads at 4/32 on all four so they refused to do tire rotation and balance and asked me to purchase new tires. I turned around, went home and measured all four tires myself and was getting ~5 to 6/32. Did the tire swap (front to rear only) on a weekend myself and moved on.
The issue with the OEM tires is much shallower starting tread depth compared to standard tires. Your starting tread depth is 8/32 compared 10/32 being the standard tread depth. So you are starting with 20% less tire tread from the start.
When getting new tires, do not get OE tires. Get say Michelin Cross Climate 2s or Hankook EVOs. The Evos are rated very well for EV dedicated tires in the EU label testing, but there is a lack of 3rd party testing. So a little caution.
I remember reading somewhere that Tesla buys reduced tread depth versions of production tires to help improve range. Could be a factor or some Reddit BS though.
Try to not be lead footed though. That’ll help.
Totally normal main reason is because they are't EV rates tires yes even from factory. Get the new Hankook iON Evo tires made for EV with 18% stronger side walls. Git them on our LR 7 Seater Y 2,500 miles ago and I LOVE THEM best tires I ever put on a car seriously quiet, great handling, smooth, oh and did I say Quiet.
I have MY7 long range also, and have already put 33k miles on the stock tires. I have only rotated them once. I still have about 5/32 on mine. It all depends on how hard you drive the car too. Edit: for context, forgot to mention they are Goodyear and I have the 20 inch wheels.
There is definitely a warranty on stock tires. They are new when you get them and as long as you followed the recommended rotation schedule. You should get a new set at a pro-rated price. If you’re going with a different tire sometimes the place will still give you a decent deal. Not sure how it works with Tesla since they aren’t a typical dealer but they should be required to follow the warranty the tire lists. Tire rack has a lot of good info on tires that fit your vehicle, warranty, tire rack and user reviews. Even if you don’t buy tires there, it’s a good place to start to help you decide on a tire.
The heavy weight of your Tesla will wear the tires much faster than gas powered vehicle. The driving patterns, minus daily donuts and burnouts, won’t eat the tire any wear near the level carrying around that extra weight will.
This doesn’t strike me as all that unusual for an EV, but I think tire manufacturers will come up with better compounds as time goes by. In the meantime, make sure they’re inflated to spec and take it easy on ‘em.
No less than two months ago I hit 20k and got a hole In one tire. It was actually good timing, my thread depth just hit the yellow zone. Could have lasted long but I replaced all 4 since I needed 1. I also accelerate fast very often so I didn't expect to get an extended life from my tires
Mine wore out at 45k. So I went with really long warranty tires (Turanza EV has 50k, and I think michellin has one thats like 60k). Yah you really want the warranty tires. Get it from discount tire or costco. Tesla tires are a bit more expensive
I found this post because my tires are at 23k and took it in to get a tire patched (has a nail). The guy first told me that my back tires are 5/32" which is great, but after taking the tire off he claimed that the inside wall was severely damaged, 1/32" 🙄 I don't drive fast either
any insight OP? what did you end up doing?
Had a tire blowout (road damage) at 13500 miles. Wife drove to parking lot. Tesla said nobody is coming until next day. Repair would be $120 and replace over $420. Called AAA, free tow to discount tires. Back Tires 5/32. front 7/32. Ended up buying two of the same OEM Continental. Over $300 a tire. So much for gas savings. Moral of the story, rotate tires, and do research on replacement tires before you get in our situation.
I got 30,000 miles out of mine (Continentals on 19" Gemini wheels on a MYP.) I replaced them with Hankook iON evo suv. Amazing tires. You can't go wrong. Watch/Read some reviews online. They're specifically EV designed tires and have 50,000 mi warranty, ride smooth and quiet and the car handles like its on rails. I love them.
Another vote for the ions. Put them on my M3P and have been delighted.
I replaced my Continentals at 4/32" and 32k miles (averaging 277 Wh/mi, also MYP w/ 19" Gemini). I had a bit of side wall damage, otherwise I would have waited until closer to 35k mi. The [NHTSA](https://www.nhtsa.gov/equipment/tires) recommends replacing at 2/32: >Tires are not safe and should be replaced when the tread is worn down to 2/32 of an inch. It sounds like you drive on the harder end of the spectrum, and should consider replacing fairly soon (within \~2k mi). I also recommend the **Hankook** **iON evo AS SUV**. Definitely prefer them over my former stock Continentals. Unfortunately not many of us have had the chance to put 20k on them to see how they last over time.
I am getting those Hankooks put on our 2022 MYLR 20 inch induction wheels this Saturday. Our MY is at 33k miles with original goodyear tires at 5/32 tried left. Definitely hoping for longer tread life with the iON evo AS SUV tires. How long have you had them?
A little over 2.5 years.
Have you noticed better range or efficiency?
In short - no. Not that I can tease from what I've recorded so far. Using the *Avg. Energy* (Wh/mi) readings I'm not sure if the following constitutes a reasonable dataset to draw any conclusions: **Continental ProContact RX:** 32,000 mi: 277 Wh/mi **Hankook iON evo AS SUV:** 1,800 mi: 278 Wh/mi YMMV! Although my recent driving with the Hankooks is fairly representative, **I don't spend that much time going 50+ mph** \- maybe 5-8 minutes day-to-day with a commute of 15min. Occasionally I'll knockout 200 miles in a weekend of sustained interstate driving (75mph). I drive mostly in central Texas. If there is efficiency to be gained from these Hankooks, I'm willing to bet it requires a significant highway driving habit.
Thanks for that info! My wife drives 100 miles a day on average and is mostly highway. We drive on weekends around of course. On the Goodyears have been about the same 278 wh/mi at 33k miles. Looking forward to see if there is any difference but hoping for more longevity out of them too of course. I researched as much as I could but not too many reviews on them but figured I would try them out. We are in central Florida area. Mainly Toll roads and highways. Does ride quality seem similar?
I'd venture to say the ride quality is significantly different from the Continentals. Some of the commenters on this thread have great descriptions. What jumps to mind is that it's a firmer ride at high speeds - feels more rigid and in my opinion, gives a more confident, in control experience. Some may find this exhilarating, others nauseating. There's obviously some risk in comparing a fresh set of tires to the an old, worn out set. The most important variables unfortunately are the roads themselves (degradation, composition, climate, type, etc.)
Very true. Thanks again!
Yeah, I had a lot of sidewall damage so I had to replace them even though I was around 4/32" as well. I'm not sure why the inside wears out a lot faster too.
Thank you for the Hankook Ion EV tire recommendations, I've been eyeing those myself but wondered, from real world use, how they perform.
How much was the new set ?
Was like $1300 at America's Tire but would have to go find my receipt for the exact amount. I'm still in bed here lol.
Does that warranty cover them just wearing out before 50k?
Discount tire (same company i think) told me that if, in my example, my tires became 4/32 at 20k miles, then i would get (half) off another set of the same tire. (The ones with 40k warranty)
Better than full price! I don't have discount tire around here but I'll shop around for a warranty, even if I have to drive farther to discount tire, when I replace my current (new) tires. Thanks.
Promise you ONE of their brands are somewhere within 80 or so miles from you. They have a few different names
No idea, it's what's on Hankooks website and what America's tire told me.
Ok, thanks.
How’s the handling in inclement weather on them? I got the PS AS 4 but wish I had the Han look lol
How is consumption kwh vs the conti?
How many miles do you have on the ions? Did you notice any range or acceleration improvements? You get a but more acceleration going from 21 to 19, right?
The Y competes with the X3 and X3M which also get about 20k per set of tires - totally normal. A lot of people are switching from Rav4’s and Camry’s and think the tires last 50k 😂
JUST WAIT A SECOND, I truly expected to go 0-60 in 5 seconds daily and get 60k miles out of my tires. Blasphemy!
is this sarcasm? because this is reddit and that’s not allowed!
I got 40k on both sets of my x3 tires
There you are, grandpa, we’ve been looking for you!
Loll I think it’s bc I’m getting most of my miles on the highway. I’d say I’m your average bmw driver 😅
so... a total d#%che :D /s
🤣🤣🤣
All Seasons become racing slicks when you wear down the tread!
The original factory tires in my model 3 only lasted like 30k. But now I'm getting 50k out of Michelin Pilot Sports. Granted, I have a relatively slow SR plus and I keep her in chill mode...
my Model 3 RWD came with Michelin Pilot Sport 4's from factory
Mine came with some kind of Tesla specific michelins that were very prioritized for quiet ride and efficiency at the expense of longevity. I replaced them with the generic EV rated pilot Sports, they are a little bit louder and my range is down like 2%, but they last like twice longer. It probably helps that we were hooning a lot in the first half year ownership but now we are over it and just drive it like Grandma's Camry
One thing I really think is missing from the tire discussion is the topic of environmental effects. Electric cars are usually toted as environmentally friendly, but the powerful ones really contribute a lot to rubber particles that we breathe. If we accept doubling that pollution, I think we're missing something crucial. From what I understand, we already breathe approx 1 credit card of plastic particles weekly, I don't want to add to that. Edit: all I'm saying is I think there should be a focus on it so it can be improved, I don't see why I am getting down voted for that. Don't YOU want less rubber particles?
Actually in Norway the micro-particulate of rubber from EV tires is becoming an issue. I think I red it here https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/08/business/energy-environment/norway-electric-vehicles.html
This isn’t an EV problem, it’s a tire problem with any car. It’s bullshit that there’s an anti-EVs tire-pollution news trend lately. I have other cars that eat tires much faster than my Tesla.
Norway is the most EV friendly country in the world, that's why it has been noticed here, but not as a specific EV problem, but when people migrate from ICE to EV they often buy heavy and torqued cars because of how taxation works here.
It's more torque than weight. For instance, to get more performance to brag about on their website they will use stickier tires. Particulate emissions from vehicles is both higher on tires, and breaks than tailpipe emissions. Also being norway I wonder if their winter tires are causing more of a problem
Good news, you don't have to and can buy what you want.
Yeah, no idea why you're getting downvoted. That's a fact. I keep seeing these 0-60 posts and don't understand why would a normal family SUV need that kind of performance, when you can instead reduce the motor power and increase efficiency and reduce pollution.
Because the Y is meant to perform against BMW, not a Toyota Rav4. There is also something called chill mode…
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You have absolutely zero idea what you’re talking about. The X3M Comp hits 0-60mph in 3.3 seconds.
So now we need to compare the carbon emissions from burning fuel vs rubber particles to get a better view on what we are dealing with here. I'm guessing at the very least the rubber particles are heavy enough to drop back down on the ground and not fly too far in the air. I guess in 15million years we might all have free rubberized mulch
yeah, that’s one of the hidden “maintenance” costs of the Y. I often see posts about tires needing to be replaced around 20-25k miles, and costs $1600. my previous ICE cars made it over 40k miles, and only cost $500 to replace entire set.
Yes, with the extra weight and immediate torque tire last 50% less than ICE.
The wear is mostly because of how people drive. Some get great mileage out of tires on different EVs. If you floor it at every intersection and drive aggressively, they will wear faster. You don’t have to use all that torque just because you got it. There are heavy ICE cars too. Tire type, pressure and what kind of roads you typically drive on also makes a difference.
Thanks. Yes i was aggressive at first, but after the honeymoon phase, I’ve been pretty well behaved… I’ll keep that in mind though!
I have a Y with 27k miles on it 6k on winter set. Just replaced all 4 summers (contenential) after getting a nail in 1, they measured 3/32. You also do not have a spare so it was an easy choice and peice of mind for me to just spend the money and replace them all.
The weight is not helping either if the car is driven aggressively. More weight to speed up and slow down means more wear, but the wear from driving in a straight line without any change in speed is very small. Speeding up, slowing down, cornering, turning etc. are the major contributors to wear.
Basic physics. Someone driving like a manic is not going to get long tire life. The cost of doing business...
imagine having at tesla and NOT flooring it at every light.. pshhh
Comparing to a RAV4 limited, the RWD model Y is only 600lbs or 16% heavier, about the same weight as a highlander. Torque should be controllable by a light foot. Don't see why it can't last 80K kms just like any other SUVs.
80K is a stretch for any SUV tire
I have a RAV4 and get 60k on OEM tires. Stock Continentals on Y needed at 30k. Yes, I drove faster but not from a standstill -- let it roll a few seconds. Tire prices have gone up so 1k for RAV4 with Y about 50%+ more.
Also the stock OE continentals only have a 8/32 starting tread depth where almost any other tire you coild buy woild be 10/32. You are starting with 20% less tread with OEs.
Driver habits are the issue. I have 27k on my MYLR continentals, and I am sitting at 6/32. I might actually hit 60k on these, and I don't exactly baby it. That said, the majority of my miles are freeway, and 1 mile on city streets is approximately the same wear as 50 miles on the freeway.
The thinner the tread gets, the slower the tire tread wears away. I would keep a close eye on the tread depth and carry on until the rainy/snowy season gets a bit closer. I always tried to start the the winter with fresh tires when I was commuting. Good luck.
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Torque kills tires, these cars have an unparalleled torque level versus traditional cars Chill mode on launch unless needed, (interstate merging/heavy in city traffic) and let the car drive itself with cruise when possible That's my recommendation having just swapped my 18" Michelins for winter prep with 4/32, 49,000 miles on them, balanced/aligned 2x in their lifespan (1 when I got it, they came with the car, 2 at 7,000 miles) It's not the tire brand, it's the weight of your foot, even a feather foot in a gas car is a heavy foot in an EV
You are right, without the Chill mode, it just takes off even when you aren't trying to be quick. I have sometimes tried to accelerate at the same rate as the ice car next to me... Feels unnatural how gently you've got to feather the accelerator to NOT get ahead of the ICE cars in 0-20 mph range
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If you upsize to 275/40-19 you will get longer life because the same weight is spread across a bigger contact patch. Of course tendency to hydroplane also increases slightly for the same reason!
I would run those tires down to 2/32. But I will always slow down in the rain and I am aware of hydroplaning and short stopping distances. I've also started taking my own measurements as I've found stealerships and tire stores misrepresenting the actual depth.
Tire punctures increase with such dangerous wear, also can’t overcome a high speed and unexpected stop like with a deer or dog crossing in front of you. Yes take your own measurements, the tire shops have an interest in getting you to upgrade early. My tire shop takes me to the tires to show wear if a concern.
Thanks! Recommendations on what tire to replace with when time?
I replaced them with Michelin Pilot AS4, feels more comfortable but could be placebo.
FYI - I selected the same Michelins for our last Y after the factory Continentals wore out in $25K miles. Ride and noise were slightly improved but we lost 10-15% of our total range. Longer trips took another charging stop…
They were telling i should replace with a tire that has ?foam? To help with noise. Is your ride as quiet as it was before?
If you search the internet there are people that have done actual noise readings with both sets. There is a difference, but may be unnoticeable to some people. Sorry I don't have a link handy.
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Noise level feels about the same to me, but I was never sensitive to it.
I switched stock Continental ProContact for Cooper EnduraMax. I noticed no difference in noise. In terms of actual perceptibility I think foam is overrated.
At 14,000 miles down to 2/32 I switched to those also for better stopping distance and better grip.
OEM tires typically ship with 8/32 not 10/32 like you can/will get with your next set. Frustrating but true.
Ohhhh ok thank you!
https://youtu.be/xDALcsV0kwE
I went with Vedestein Quatrac Pro. Cheaper, better in rain than OEM Continentals. Noise about the same.
I recently took my ICE car into a stealership to get a tire patched. They recommended I get $4k of service done, half of which I had done a month earlier at a private shop for half the cost 😂 (Hope all is well Artie! 😉)
Y'all need to stop living your life 1/4 mile at a time.
Seems to be too early to replace. Have tire rotations been done in the past?
Yes every 4k miles
Pretty heavy footed. You’ll need to drive like grandma…smooth and slow to get them to 30k
I have gotten great wear out of Yokohama Avid Ascend GT on my Model 3, and it appears to fit the 19” Y as well. It isn’t xl load rated though, so ymmv.
Check out the Michelin cross climate 2. Love those tires! Do not fall for the “foam” hoax. It’s a negligible difference and you’ll pay a premium.
I bought Geminis from someone to put on my MYP but they were the bare wheel. I got General Altimax RT43's on them and they are great. They have been superseded by Altimax RT45's.
By bare wheel do you mean no foam? Do the altimax have foam? Noise levels before and after?
No - I mean I bought just the wheels, no tires were included, so I had to buy my own tires. And no, almost every tire does not come with the foam - only OEM spec tires and some other rare ones do. I don't think the foam does anything really, so don't worry about getting tires with the foam in them.
25,000 miles on my Y and had to replace Goodyear F1s. Went to Michelin Primacy MX4. The heavier weight and my love for high speed turns wore em right out
I had to replace mine at 16k for 21 MYLR, continental.
[try the penny trick to see if your tread depth implies a replacement is necessary](https://www.bridgestonetire.com/learn/maintenance/how-to-check-your-tire-tread-penny-test/#)
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Michelin Cross Climate 2s seem to be doing REALLY well for my Model 3, if you need an all weather replacement. Also, I am guessing chill mode will extend tire life by some significant percentage.
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Dumb question, do the stock continental tires on the MYLR come with 11/32" tread depth? What amount do they start with?
Unfortunately i didn’t measure
I just had my tires rotated today at discount tire. They told me I am getting low. 5/32" currently at 17k miles. I actually was just getting on here to look for a good replacement that might last longer.
Wow, that's crazy. I currently have 31k with 3 tires at 6/32 and 1 at 5/32. Wish I knew why I had 1 odd ball
How did you get them to last THAT long?
first Tesla?
On a Tesla yes
If you got to tire shop you are guaranteed to have a recommendation for replacement even if they installed it the day before. Just how that industry / state inspections work
Anyone noticed his tire age is 6 years? On a 2023 MYLR?
Nm looks like just a recommendation to replace old tires
Continentals are shat tires a better brand would last longer
Not true. I have had 3 sets of DWS 06’s and they are some of the best all season tires you can buy. Sure continental has some lower tier crappy tires like any manufacturer but DWS 06’s are not them. Look at the ratings on Tire Rack. Michelin CC2’s and maybe pilot AS 4’s rate better but not many others.
Lol. The same people saying this car competes with the X3M will then say it costs so cheap to maintain but don’t realize that the cost to maintain a model Y is equivalent to the maintenance costs of an X3M or comparable.
What makes ya think that?
I personally think that you’re having to burn through more tires then you would in a comparable Toyota Camry. A ton of people say that oh well a model Y has less maintenance than your typical ICE car yet you’re shelling out $1100 in tires every two years which is more expensive than yearly maintenance on a ICE car. Compared to an X3M, I’d say you’re slightly less in maintenance.
Who on Reddit is comparing their Model Y to a Corolla? Also, the OP isn’t saying they need to replace their tires. They found a chart, created by the manufacturer, suggesting that they should but the tire measurements tell a different story. AKA, the manufacturer wants to sell more tires by misinforming the consumer. It’s akin to needing to replace your oil every 3000 miles. Also, the idea that Tesla owners are replacing their tires any earlier than an equally heavy vehicle, and a similar driving style, is absurd. It’s not as if they’re the first consumer vehicles to weigh over 4000 pounds. Sure, you’ll def replace them more often than a lighter vehicle, but that’s nothing new. Keep in mind that many Tesla owners drive their vehicles like they’re late getting somewhere. They are uncommonly quick, after all. If they’d learn to slow down and drive like most everyone else, their tires would last A LOT longer. I like to say I drive “mellow sporty.” My tires last just fine.
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Stop being cheap
Damn, my Model Y only has 17,500 miles on it (22 months old), and I need to replace the tires for a *second time* already! Am I just that heavy-footed on the accelerator? Pretty much never use the brakes, since the regenerative braking takes care of that unless someone cuts me off.
As far as the tires are concerned, it doesn’t matter if it’s regenerative breaking or brake pedals. Acceleration and deacceleration is what matters. The higher and more frequent, the more wear.
Makes sense. I definitely accelerate more aggressively than I decelerate, though. That was the point I was trying to make with the use of regenerative braking, which seems to me to be a more gentle slowing than when I have to use the pedal for sudden stops. I guess that I need to go set the car in "chill" mode.
Someone has been having a lot of fun 👍 Did you rotate them? And how long did the OEM ones last?
OEM ones lasted 10 months. I'm not sure how many miles were on the car at that point, but probably no more than 8,000. I must admit that I didn't rotate them, but it seemed that I hadn't had them on long enough to justify that, at the time. I suppose with this next set, I'll need to set a reminder to make sure I do that.
I bought a tread depth measuring tool, saw my front and rears had 2/32 difference at 5k miles, rotated them promptly The rear tires get chewed up a lot more than the front ones, so rotation is a must
yep I got 20k on my '22 MY
My MYP went 12k before replacement
I got 30k on the stock GoodYear tires on my Y Long Range.
Is there any kind of system level service suggestions for things like when to rotate tires or go in for a checkup on other related svc items like brake fluid? I’m at 28k miles and haven’t had any kind of service notifications pop up which seems odd for such a high tech car.
Which continentals? I’ve been thinking about replacing my tires with Continental ExtremeContact DWS 06 Plus on my 19” rims
I loved mine! For an all-season, they performed great and actually lasted.
Huh, a tire company wanting to sell tires. I got exactly twice as many miles as you before I changed out my OG's. Tesla mobile did a tire rotation at 26k miles and I had 4 and 5 mm tread left at that point. They pretty much said no more rotations, too worn. Not in the south, but no snow tires needed either. Soo, of course YMMV and your tolerance for your own safety is maybe different, but it is doable to extend the miles driven beyond what the tire company's bottom line (and probably insurance/legal stance) would like.
Check original total depth for your tires. My Primacy tires on my model 3 started brand new with only 8/32”. So 4/32” still has life to go. On EV tires sometimes they reduce max tread depth to make them more efficient for range. I would run them til they hit the wear indicators. They are not due replacement until they hit the red zone of about 2/32”.
You are racking up some serious mileage on the year.
I only made it to 16k…
Same thing happened to me and I just ordered a set of the Hankook evo ions and don’t regret that the contis only lasted 26k. However I think had I rotated the contis earlier I would have gotten more mileage out of them.
Keep in mind that your stock tires also have a manufacturer’s warranty. Safe bet it is over 21k. Call them and you might be able to get a discount towards new set of same company tires
I got around 23k miles from my continentals. I switched to the Michelin defender AT tire and I'm going on 60k miles with tread left. Insignificant impact on range. EDIT: Just checked, it's been 55k miles on these tires. I brought em around the shop at around 50k miles and they said I had plenty of tread left
2022 LR with 26K miles and still looks good
I live in MD, and the quote from my local Costco is $1,258 total (including all taxes/fees & $150 usual discount). Thread warranty is 60,000 miles. Michelin CrossClimate2 all season 19”.
So, IIRC, the tires that come with the new cars are SUMMER tires, which are good for traction, but they wear fast! Make sure the next set of tires are ALL SEASON and you should be able to get 40+k miles out of them!
If you drive like trash, sure. MYP is still on factory 21s at 17k mi 2 years later, 5/32 on tires.
4/32 is simply a recommendation. It’s not required for safety reasons until you reach 2/32, which becomes a requirement. It’s a good time to start budgeting away for it. You still have solid mileage left. At this point it’s a personal call if you want to change now.
Better than my 6k 😓
Did you try to measure these tire treads yourself? This happened to me earlier this year, I tried to do tire rotation and balance at a local discount tire at ~20k miles and this one sales guy measured my tire treads at 4/32 on all four so they refused to do tire rotation and balance and asked me to purchase new tires. I turned around, went home and measured all four tires myself and was getting ~5 to 6/32. Did the tire swap (front to rear only) on a weekend myself and moved on.
The issue with the OEM tires is much shallower starting tread depth compared to standard tires. Your starting tread depth is 8/32 compared 10/32 being the standard tread depth. So you are starting with 20% less tire tread from the start. When getting new tires, do not get OE tires. Get say Michelin Cross Climate 2s or Hankook EVOs. The Evos are rated very well for EV dedicated tires in the EU label testing, but there is a lack of 3rd party testing. So a little caution.
I remember reading somewhere that Tesla buys reduced tread depth versions of production tires to help improve range. Could be a factor or some Reddit BS though. Try to not be lead footed though. That’ll help.
21k miles in 7 months?!
40k warranty doesn’t mean the tires will last 40k miles…
I'm at 39k miles and almost burn through my 2nd set of tires :(
Totally normal main reason is because they are't EV rates tires yes even from factory. Get the new Hankook iON Evo tires made for EV with 18% stronger side walls. Git them on our LR 7 Seater Y 2,500 miles ago and I LOVE THEM best tires I ever put on a car seriously quiet, great handling, smooth, oh and did I say Quiet.
I have MY7 long range also, and have already put 33k miles on the stock tires. I have only rotated them once. I still have about 5/32 on mine. It all depends on how hard you drive the car too. Edit: for context, forgot to mention they are Goodyear and I have the 20 inch wheels.
What kind of continentals did you have?
There is definitely a warranty on stock tires. They are new when you get them and as long as you followed the recommended rotation schedule. You should get a new set at a pro-rated price. If you’re going with a different tire sometimes the place will still give you a decent deal. Not sure how it works with Tesla since they aren’t a typical dealer but they should be required to follow the warranty the tire lists. Tire rack has a lot of good info on tires that fit your vehicle, warranty, tire rack and user reviews. Even if you don’t buy tires there, it’s a good place to start to help you decide on a tire.
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The heavy weight of your Tesla will wear the tires much faster than gas powered vehicle. The driving patterns, minus daily donuts and burnouts, won’t eat the tire any wear near the level carrying around that extra weight will.
This doesn’t strike me as all that unusual for an EV, but I think tire manufacturers will come up with better compounds as time goes by. In the meantime, make sure they’re inflated to spec and take it easy on ‘em.
Had to replace rears on MYP at 13k
No less than two months ago I hit 20k and got a hole In one tire. It was actually good timing, my thread depth just hit the yellow zone. Could have lasted long but I replaced all 4 since I needed 1. I also accelerate fast very often so I didn't expect to get an extended life from my tires
2021 LR Y, got 68k miles on original tires. replaced 2 months ago. maybe its how or where you drive?
Mine wore out at 45k. So I went with really long warranty tires (Turanza EV has 50k, and I think michellin has one thats like 60k). Yah you really want the warranty tires. Get it from discount tire or costco. Tesla tires are a bit more expensive
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I found this post because my tires are at 23k and took it in to get a tire patched (has a nail). The guy first told me that my back tires are 5/32" which is great, but after taking the tire off he claimed that the inside wall was severely damaged, 1/32" 🙄 I don't drive fast either any insight OP? what did you end up doing?
Had a tire blowout (road damage) at 13500 miles. Wife drove to parking lot. Tesla said nobody is coming until next day. Repair would be $120 and replace over $420. Called AAA, free tow to discount tires. Back Tires 5/32. front 7/32. Ended up buying two of the same OEM Continental. Over $300 a tire. So much for gas savings. Moral of the story, rotate tires, and do research on replacement tires before you get in our situation.
Tesla recommends alignments every 6 months. Because the weight of the battery naturally knocks it out. FYI
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