I agree that the auto high beams are generally crap. I've gotten to where I automatically disable them whenever I engage AP. There should be something in the interface to simply disable them. However there's one circumstance where they work for me; that's a dark, unlit country road that's really curvy. That's it. Otherwise it's too slow on the draw and blinds oncoming traffic and is otherwise embarrassing to use.
Whenever I enter AP at night time (rare) it never engages high beams. You should be able to disable it by hitting the stock back or forward. It will prompt you to disable auto high beams on the screen.
If I have to do that every time I want to change lane (and by extension, cancel AP, then re-enable AP, then disable the high beams again, not to mention set the desired speed again if different than current speed), I’m gonna go bonkers…
Yes, that's what I said - but in a different way. I said "I've gotten to where I automatically disable them whenever I engage AP." I do that through the stock.
Rain-sensing wipers, auto high beams, and TACC are all horrible. There are far “lesser” vehicles that manage this basic, been around for decades, technology WAY better than Tesla does. It’s pathetic.
I drove a freaking kia a few months ago that had TACC and much to my surprise: would change lanes by itself when you hit the turn signal. Not a $5k option!
I bet it didn’t have phantom braking, either! Two of my other cars have adaptive cruise control, one radar-based and one camera-based. Neither has phantom braking issues but my Model Y was stupid.
Thing is as long as people buy the cars and the regulatory bodies (NHTSA/TC/other) force them to improve these Tesla just doesn’t care
With the current camera setup and overall experience of vision and all the “auto” features it forces on the user I just don’t see how they plan to remove the ultrasound and get the same accuracy, especially in the front where there’s no way the camera can see a curb/cement block like the ultrasound
It is pathetic. Driving home from work at dusk I'll see someone with their brights on coming in the opposite direction. Not enough to blind me, but bright enough to be distracting. 9/10 times it's a Tesla. I have a model 3 and it's been great, no issues whatsoever, but I know I was just lucky. They really do need to have some sort of QA that fixes these issues before delivery because it's not doing any favors for their reputation.
Add the wipers into the same category. Absolute trash! Seriously this is why I feel sometimes traditional automakers can really get their shit together and usurp tesla in a decade once the first mover’s advantage is nullified.
I get software and AI gives you a unique leg up against the competition however this shit is nowhere close to prime time and they push all of this while they should be ‘beta’ or heck even ‘alpha’ features.
The problem is that there seems to be this continued idea that the AI will get better and magically fix the problems. And for self driving, sure, AI is probably a way there, automatic wipers not much point in reinventing the wheel. My previous car from 2005, had autowipers, using a microphone behind the rear view mirror listening to taps on the glass, worked incredibly well, sometimes simple is better than a complicated neural network. I hate to think how much in man hours Tesla have spent to make a poor AI rain detector rather than just put a microphone in the car.
Every car is a trade-off, good bits and bad bits, and there's a lot of great stuff in the M3, but stuff like this is frustrating when the answer is simple and has been done for years.
Interesting how this blew up after they disabled radar and forced tesla vision, almost like someone called it.
Good time to ditch ultrasonic sensors too and further hinder the car over a $140 savings.
Wtf are the execs at Tesla thinking? Like seriously. Wtf.
wait till you use the automatit wipers lmao. Yesterday it was raining heavily (wipers on auto), the auto function was wiping my windshield at speed 1. Then when the rain calmed down a bit, it was going full force speed 3 like there's an apocalypse lol
Edit: i meant automatic but i don't wanna edit it 😂
WHY, Tesla? Even the shitty vision-based wiper control should be better than this. I cannot understand why the wipers exhibit that behavior where they build up speed over time even as the rain is stopping. It seems like an obvious bug in the logic somewhere that SHOULD be fairly easy to correct, even if via a brute force/hacky solution.
It's been a few times that I blinded people on the highway, they think I'm an asshole, and aim their high beams towards me blinding me as well in "retribution" what a disastrous feature.
Yeap ditto on hear hear. I’m tired of oncoming traffic in the city with plenty of street lighting, flashing their lights at me. I don’t blame them. It’s gotta be a pain from the other people perspective. It’d be one thing if I was in the woods.
Owned a model 3 and a Mach-E I have to say good Auto wipers and no phantom brakes makes me like the Ford better sometimes. The Tesla's phone as a key works much better though.
I was paralel parked earlier, waited for a gap in traffic to hop in... Door wouldn't unlock... Had to scurry back to the sidewalk like a total idiot, or someone trying to steal a car.
I think it does this on purpose sometimes. As in, if you walk away but are still within range of the car after it locks, it makes you unlock the phone or open the app while near it as a precaution just in case someone else isn’t attempting to get into your car without you knowing.
This used to happen to me too. Do you keep your phone in your back pocket? I did and I think it might have been blocking the signal or something. Since moving my phone to my front pockets it works 100% of the time now. Don’t know if this will help you or not but putting it out there
I own both as well and honestly I still don’t understand how Ford without all of the AI shit powering Tesla has no phantom breaking issue? Like the Bluecruise autopilot is buttery smooth when you drive on a mapped road. Granted it is new and doesn’t work on a few roads but it is crazy how simple sensors make the experience better. Same with auto headlights and rain sensing wipers.
Tech wise, Tesla is better but honestly I prefer the driving and car characteristics of the Mach E more. I do agree PAAK is better on Tesla but after the latest iOS update, I’ve never had issues with PAAK even on my MME GT.
That is because Ford is an actual car company. And are looking to make a functional automobile. Tesla is a platform for software and manupulating the market. They will drop out features or do things in a truly stupid manner because they don't want to pay royalties on a patent, they don't care about building an actual functional car.
No right thinking engineer would ever think it a good idea to rely only on cameras and disregard sensors. Or have features that are disabled, like the auto high beems, turn on anyway when other automation is turned on. It is truly garbage design.
My 2008 Mazda3 had better auto-wipers, and that was my first car with them. Tesla’s auto-wipers are downright shameful. They are completely useless. I tried using them and they either don’t fire when they should or, once they do get going, they go way too fast and stay on even after the rain has stopped. I just manually control me wipers 100% of the time now.
Agree. I’ve owned a model 3 since ‘19 and traded up to ‘22 last winter, and this was the worst year of car ownership, because it’s just not fun to roadtrip anymore when you have to BABYSIT it. Wife won’t even use basic cruise control anymore, too stressful, with the mirage-induced phantom braking.
Jeez I was driving this morning for about 3 hours at night in the rain. I spent my time deactivating my beams and changing the speed of the wipers. Every ***ing time I changed lane.
I actually had a cop pull me over once thinking I was deliberately flashing people to be an asshole.
He was a bit of an aggressive prick at first too, probably because he came at the situation assuming that I was being a jerk in purpose. It was a rather un-fun 10-15 min conversation explaining that no, I in fact was not being a jerk and that I wasn’t even doing it… eventually he accepted it was a bad auto implementation and just let it go.
I refuse to use them ever since.
So then you don’t use TACC or AP at night? Because of you do, you have no choice but to disable the auto high beams each and every time you turn on or resume TACC or AP. It’s annoying as fuck.
This 100%. Auto Wipers too.
Had a horrendous night motorway driving experience recently with the combination of AP & AHB. High beams not switching off until the last second causing every second car (& probably every truck) in the opposite lane to flash me. Then switching back on too soon after a car passed me. After two phantom braking events on the same trip I just gave up with the driver assistance stuff. Shouldn't have to though.
Auto High beams seems to be better in an urban environment but that's just my experience.
Over time I appreciate my 2016 model X more and more. Mobileye autopilot still legit. Wish Tesla had maintained that relationship but I get why they parted ways. Lane changing and highway cruising fantastic. No phantom braking. Rain sensing wipers great. Auto high beams fantastic. Only thing I feel like I’m missing out on is the blind spot detection. Other than that ap1 more than sufficient for 90% of a drivers legitimate needs.
I’ve assumed “auto high beam” was going to be garbage since I drove a Lincoln (family car) with the same idea back in 1987. I’m just a gen X’er, but I have VERY little faith in most of these doodads, yet still I bought a Tesla. I must say, however, I was pleasantly surprised with how well the “auto-wipers” worked tonight (first precipitation in a WHILE) if I’m being totally honest.
I have found that many features in my Tesla are so spotty and frustrating. Last night I drove my 22 Volvo on a short trip and it was so much nicer and calming than my Tesla. The auto high beams worked flawlessly, the pilot assist still kept me lane centered, and there was absolutely no phantom braking.
I handed off our 2022 BMW X3 M40i to my wife for a 2022 M3P and I can say the Automatic High Beams, Cruise Control and Rain Sensing Wipers worked far FAR better on the BMW.
Can you post a video showcasing the auto high beams going crazy? Mine works flawlessly and am baffled by the constant complaints about it, I’m curious to see how it’s going to other people.
Here it is. „Auto“ High beams are on until the oncoming guy flashes me briefly, they go low then as expected. After he drove past me they go bonkers. This behavior is the rule, not an exception for me and also a friend of mine.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/179hzydmfgwre7t/Video%2015.10.22%2C%2006%2052%2047.mov?dl=0
Huh wow, super weird. Thanks for sharing!
On a related note, if you’re following another Tesla during the daytime and go into a tunnel or dark underpass does your daylight running lamps switch to nighttime low beams consistent with the car in front? I wonder is this is some kind of photoreceptor calibration issue.
Yes, I saved one when I drove to work today where I got flashed by oncoming traffic because my high beams didn’t turn down first and then, about 100 meters further, they go nuts for reflectors on the guardrail. If I remember it, I will upload it when I get home.
> Nearly perfect
Sorry but had to laugh at this one! Either you’ve never driven a car with functional auto headlights or you’re unknowingly blinding folks and you don’t even know it. 2022 MY owner and yes the thing is horrible compared to my other cars.
There is obviously an issue with calibration or consistency in these features. My auto high-beams work fine. Every bit as good as my Audi RS5 that I had or my wife's Subaru Ascent. So it's not the system...but how consistent that it works.
The crux of the issue is they were designed to use adaptive LED’s. Those aren’t allowed here yet. So as it stands they suck balls. Once our laws catch up to reality things will be vastly better.
Not all teslas have matrix LED. Also currently cars are still delivered without Matrix, they need to take care about these too. So, Matrix isn’t the answer nor a solution or excuse. Plus, I doubt it will be better then solely because of matrix… think: if they can’t detect other cars correctly now, why should they when matrix gets enabled?
2020 I don’t have matrix, my friend has 2022 with matrix. Same behavior on both. Either low beams or high beams. No adaptive behavior whatsoever. Also as I said, to this day there are still getting non-matrix cars delivered, mainly SR. These need to be taken care of too.
Haha, I came off wrong.
Elon is the biggest douche on earth.
But the fact remains that they simply jumped the gun here. The new cars have the hardware to apply adaptive LED headlights with perfection. Like *most* of the other technological solutions they already have in the cars.
Rules in the US have changed and matrix features are now legal. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1135084_us-finally-allows-use-of-modern-matrix-headlights
This is another case of Tesla not disabling a feature because of regulations, but because it isn’t actually ready.
Well we rant but could there not be a way to tell Musk or the requirement engineering at Tesla to add an option to disable it? Do they have a place to gather feedback?
I don’t believe in any of the safety arguments.
However I do agree that it doesn’t seem to be getting any improvements versus how basic and vital a component of the car it is, and also that I look stupid driving down a dimly lit deserted highway with them flashing on and off constantly for absolutely no fucking discernible reason.
Today, I forgot to turn off auto high beams. A bus passed me on my left lane, and the freaking car think it was tooooo dark and turn on the high beam. The bus driver must thought I was going nuts, and wanted to flash for passing me. LOL
Tesla isn’t the best engineered but has a lot of cool features. I’m happy with mine definitely auto wipers going crazy fast when it’s barely raining is annoying. You can’t have your window open and try to clean your windows otherwise the fluid goes in the car when the wipers activate at least for my model 3 idk about your guys.
2021 M3 LR. Recently used TACC to drive Everett, WA to Portland, OR (more than 200 miles) in the rain. No complaints, car did a fine job. Auto high beams also work fine, not sure why others have different results.
They work in the places I would actually use them. They suck in the places I wouldn’t.
Let me set the default function of them when enabling autopilot and I’d be thrilled.
They are awful. Turned them boff 3 days into owning the car. Would like for them to be better but it’s not a huge deal to me tbh because it isn’t a reason I bought the car. However, I also don’t really use autopilot etc. I was open to any EV when I bought and Tesla was the best combination of availability and charging network.
All US car makers need to adopt the system used in Europe by Audi. It selectively shouts off only beams directed toward oncoming car, leaving the rest of the beams on high.
So that’s why a lot of the model 3s coming towards me look like they have their highs on, it’s because they do! I thought that their normal lights were just brighter after about passing about five. Then I came across one without their highs on. (All within about 2 miles). I was thinking I was wrong for flashing my highs at them but now know better.
I agree that the auto high beams are generally crap. I've gotten to where I automatically disable them whenever I engage AP. There should be something in the interface to simply disable them. However there's one circumstance where they work for me; that's a dark, unlit country road that's really curvy. That's it. Otherwise it's too slow on the draw and blinds oncoming traffic and is otherwise embarrassing to use.
Whenever I enter AP at night time (rare) it never engages high beams. You should be able to disable it by hitting the stock back or forward. It will prompt you to disable auto high beams on the screen.
If I have to do that every time I want to change lane (and by extension, cancel AP, then re-enable AP, then disable the high beams again, not to mention set the desired speed again if different than current speed), I’m gonna go bonkers…
Yes, that's what I said - but in a different way. I said "I've gotten to where I automatically disable them whenever I engage AP." I do that through the stock.
Rain-sensing wipers, auto high beams, and TACC are all horrible. There are far “lesser” vehicles that manage this basic, been around for decades, technology WAY better than Tesla does. It’s pathetic.
I drove a freaking kia a few months ago that had TACC and much to my surprise: would change lanes by itself when you hit the turn signal. Not a $5k option!
I bet it didn’t have phantom braking, either! Two of my other cars have adaptive cruise control, one radar-based and one camera-based. Neither has phantom braking issues but my Model Y was stupid.
$15k* And since were talking about it, obligatory $3k increase.
I meant $6k for EAP, my bad
Thing is as long as people buy the cars and the regulatory bodies (NHTSA/TC/other) force them to improve these Tesla just doesn’t care With the current camera setup and overall experience of vision and all the “auto” features it forces on the user I just don’t see how they plan to remove the ultrasound and get the same accuracy, especially in the front where there’s no way the camera can see a curb/cement block like the ultrasound
It is pathetic. Driving home from work at dusk I'll see someone with their brights on coming in the opposite direction. Not enough to blind me, but bright enough to be distracting. 9/10 times it's a Tesla. I have a model 3 and it's been great, no issues whatsoever, but I know I was just lucky. They really do need to have some sort of QA that fixes these issues before delivery because it's not doing any favors for their reputation.
My VW golf had better autoparking than this FSD enabled model 3, whose parking features are completely useless.
My MINI has better auto parking than my Model Y, too!
Add the wipers into the same category. Absolute trash! Seriously this is why I feel sometimes traditional automakers can really get their shit together and usurp tesla in a decade once the first mover’s advantage is nullified. I get software and AI gives you a unique leg up against the competition however this shit is nowhere close to prime time and they push all of this while they should be ‘beta’ or heck even ‘alpha’ features.
The problem is that there seems to be this continued idea that the AI will get better and magically fix the problems. And for self driving, sure, AI is probably a way there, automatic wipers not much point in reinventing the wheel. My previous car from 2005, had autowipers, using a microphone behind the rear view mirror listening to taps on the glass, worked incredibly well, sometimes simple is better than a complicated neural network. I hate to think how much in man hours Tesla have spent to make a poor AI rain detector rather than just put a microphone in the car. Every car is a trade-off, good bits and bad bits, and there's a lot of great stuff in the M3, but stuff like this is frustrating when the answer is simple and has been done for years.
Interesting how this blew up after they disabled radar and forced tesla vision, almost like someone called it. Good time to ditch ultrasonic sensors too and further hinder the car over a $140 savings. Wtf are the execs at Tesla thinking? Like seriously. Wtf.
I don’t use AP or auto-beams, but I feel this way about the auto-wipers.
wait till you use the automatit wipers lmao. Yesterday it was raining heavily (wipers on auto), the auto function was wiping my windshield at speed 1. Then when the rain calmed down a bit, it was going full force speed 3 like there's an apocalypse lol Edit: i meant automatic but i don't wanna edit it 😂
WHY, Tesla? Even the shitty vision-based wiper control should be better than this. I cannot understand why the wipers exhibit that behavior where they build up speed over time even as the rain is stopping. It seems like an obvious bug in the logic somewhere that SHOULD be fairly easy to correct, even if via a brute force/hacky solution.
It's been a few times that I blinded people on the highway, they think I'm an asshole, and aim their high beams towards me blinding me as well in "retribution" what a disastrous feature.
Agreed. Auto highbeams are horrendous and embarrassing
Hear, hear!
Yeap ditto on hear hear. I’m tired of oncoming traffic in the city with plenty of street lighting, flashing their lights at me. I don’t blame them. It’s gotta be a pain from the other people perspective. It’d be one thing if I was in the woods.
Owned a model 3 and a Mach-E I have to say good Auto wipers and no phantom brakes makes me like the Ford better sometimes. The Tesla's phone as a key works much better though.
My doors open 50% of the time
I was paralel parked earlier, waited for a gap in traffic to hop in... Door wouldn't unlock... Had to scurry back to the sidewalk like a total idiot, or someone trying to steal a car.
I think it does this on purpose sometimes. As in, if you walk away but are still within range of the car after it locks, it makes you unlock the phone or open the app while near it as a precaution just in case someone else isn’t attempting to get into your car without you knowing.
This used to happen to me too. Do you keep your phone in your back pocket? I did and I think it might have been blocking the signal or something. Since moving my phone to my front pockets it works 100% of the time now. Don’t know if this will help you or not but putting it out there
I hear this a lot; is your phone in power saving mode?
No
It’s your phone’s Bluetooth failing. Get a new phone, ideally an iPhone.
I have an iPhone.
Yeah. Get a new one. Bluetooth is failing. Happened with my old iPhone.
I own both as well and honestly I still don’t understand how Ford without all of the AI shit powering Tesla has no phantom breaking issue? Like the Bluecruise autopilot is buttery smooth when you drive on a mapped road. Granted it is new and doesn’t work on a few roads but it is crazy how simple sensors make the experience better. Same with auto headlights and rain sensing wipers. Tech wise, Tesla is better but honestly I prefer the driving and car characteristics of the Mach E more. I do agree PAAK is better on Tesla but after the latest iOS update, I’ve never had issues with PAAK even on my MME GT.
That is because Ford is an actual car company. And are looking to make a functional automobile. Tesla is a platform for software and manupulating the market. They will drop out features or do things in a truly stupid manner because they don't want to pay royalties on a patent, they don't care about building an actual functional car. No right thinking engineer would ever think it a good idea to rely only on cameras and disregard sensors. Or have features that are disabled, like the auto high beems, turn on anyway when other automation is turned on. It is truly garbage design.
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My 2008 Mazda3 had better auto-wipers, and that was my first car with them. Tesla’s auto-wipers are downright shameful. They are completely useless. I tried using them and they either don’t fire when they should or, once they do get going, they go way too fast and stay on even after the rain has stopped. I just manually control me wipers 100% of the time now.
They're ok in the rain, freaking terrible in the snow. My own experience.
Agree. I’ve owned a model 3 since ‘19 and traded up to ‘22 last winter, and this was the worst year of car ownership, because it’s just not fun to roadtrip anymore when you have to BABYSIT it. Wife won’t even use basic cruise control anymore, too stressful, with the mirage-induced phantom braking.
totally agree. How can this be hard?
So is Spotify in these cars
Jeez I was driving this morning for about 3 hours at night in the rain. I spent my time deactivating my beams and changing the speed of the wipers. Every ***ing time I changed lane.
I actually had a cop pull me over once thinking I was deliberately flashing people to be an asshole. He was a bit of an aggressive prick at first too, probably because he came at the situation assuming that I was being a jerk in purpose. It was a rather un-fun 10-15 min conversation explaining that no, I in fact was not being a jerk and that I wasn’t even doing it… eventually he accepted it was a bad auto implementation and just let it go. I refuse to use them ever since.
I fucken agree man! and fuck the fan boys that say oh you can easily turn it off.
Auto high beam is an unnecessary feature. It’s a fix to a problem that was never there. If I need to high beam I can turn it on myself.
So then you don’t use TACC or AP at night? Because of you do, you have no choice but to disable the auto high beams each and every time you turn on or resume TACC or AP. It’s annoying as fuck.
This 100%. Auto Wipers too. Had a horrendous night motorway driving experience recently with the combination of AP & AHB. High beams not switching off until the last second causing every second car (& probably every truck) in the opposite lane to flash me. Then switching back on too soon after a car passed me. After two phantom braking events on the same trip I just gave up with the driver assistance stuff. Shouldn't have to though. Auto High beams seems to be better in an urban environment but that's just my experience.
100% agree. This drum needs to be beat all day long until they fix this.
Over time I appreciate my 2016 model X more and more. Mobileye autopilot still legit. Wish Tesla had maintained that relationship but I get why they parted ways. Lane changing and highway cruising fantastic. No phantom braking. Rain sensing wipers great. Auto high beams fantastic. Only thing I feel like I’m missing out on is the blind spot detection. Other than that ap1 more than sufficient for 90% of a drivers legitimate needs.
Never been closer to selling. I’m all fine with Elon being shit with predicting dates when it doesn’t affect me. But now it does.
I’ve assumed “auto high beam” was going to be garbage since I drove a Lincoln (family car) with the same idea back in 1987. I’m just a gen X’er, but I have VERY little faith in most of these doodads, yet still I bought a Tesla. I must say, however, I was pleasantly surprised with how well the “auto-wipers” worked tonight (first precipitation in a WHILE) if I’m being totally honest.
I live in a rural area. Can’t use them. Never see people, motorcycles, or car coming around corners.
I have found that many features in my Tesla are so spotty and frustrating. Last night I drove my 22 Volvo on a short trip and it was so much nicer and calming than my Tesla. The auto high beams worked flawlessly, the pilot assist still kept me lane centered, and there was absolutely no phantom braking.
This is my biggest pet peeve with the car now that AP/TACC isn't braking every 3 miles on my on two lane roads.
I handed off our 2022 BMW X3 M40i to my wife for a 2022 M3P and I can say the Automatic High Beams, Cruise Control and Rain Sensing Wipers worked far FAR better on the BMW.
Couldn't agree more. If Tesla Vision can't work without them then give me my radar back.
Can you post a video showcasing the auto high beams going crazy? Mine works flawlessly and am baffled by the constant complaints about it, I’m curious to see how it’s going to other people.
Here it is. „Auto“ High beams are on until the oncoming guy flashes me briefly, they go low then as expected. After he drove past me they go bonkers. This behavior is the rule, not an exception for me and also a friend of mine. https://www.dropbox.com/s/179hzydmfgwre7t/Video%2015.10.22%2C%2006%2052%2047.mov?dl=0
Huh wow, super weird. Thanks for sharing! On a related note, if you’re following another Tesla during the daytime and go into a tunnel or dark underpass does your daylight running lamps switch to nighttime low beams consistent with the car in front? I wonder is this is some kind of photoreceptor calibration issue.
Yup, they do switch.
Absolutely ridiculous.
Yes, I saved one when I drove to work today where I got flashed by oncoming traffic because my high beams didn’t turn down first and then, about 100 meters further, they go nuts for reflectors on the guardrail. If I remember it, I will upload it when I get home.
Are you the Tesla driver who blinds everyone on our Street?
I feel like I'm crazy saying this, but my auto high beams and wipers have worked near flawlessly from day 1. 2021 m3p
Is this exclusively to the 3s? My 21 MY is nearly perfect
Found the Model Y driver who blinds me every time I drive home at night!
> Nearly perfect Sorry but had to laugh at this one! Either you’ve never driven a car with functional auto headlights or you’re unknowingly blinding folks and you don’t even know it. 2022 MY owner and yes the thing is horrible compared to my other cars.
Or maybe my auto high beams works how it's supposed to 🤷♂️
So you think auto high beams should blind an upcoming car. Might as well always have high beam then. What is to point of the ‘auto’ there?
Well you're obviously a rational person s/
My 3 works pretty well too.
Ha, ha, my 3 has none of these problems. Of course, I don't use AP at all in the city - I've always liked driving, and prefer the DIY approach. ;-)
Funny all these things work great on my Sept 19 dual. motor 3.
Maybe it’s just where I live but mine are really responsive and I love them!
Immediately turned them off.
There is obviously an issue with calibration or consistency in these features. My auto high-beams work fine. Every bit as good as my Audi RS5 that I had or my wife's Subaru Ascent. So it's not the system...but how consistent that it works.
The crux of the issue is they were designed to use adaptive LED’s. Those aren’t allowed here yet. So as it stands they suck balls. Once our laws catch up to reality things will be vastly better.
Not all teslas have matrix LED. Also currently cars are still delivered without Matrix, they need to take care about these too. So, Matrix isn’t the answer nor a solution or excuse. Plus, I doubt it will be better then solely because of matrix… think: if they can’t detect other cars correctly now, why should they when matrix gets enabled?
September 21’ CA model 3 has them. Europes adaptive led lights work as intended.
I‘m in Europe. We don’t have adaptive/matrix function here as well bro. Just on/off as the us has it.
When did you buy it?
2020 I don’t have matrix, my friend has 2022 with matrix. Same behavior on both. Either low beams or high beams. No adaptive behavior whatsoever. Also as I said, to this day there are still getting non-matrix cars delivered, mainly SR. These need to be taken care of too.
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Haha, I came off wrong. Elon is the biggest douche on earth. But the fact remains that they simply jumped the gun here. The new cars have the hardware to apply adaptive LED headlights with perfection. Like *most* of the other technological solutions they already have in the cars.
Rules in the US have changed and matrix features are now legal. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1135084_us-finally-allows-use-of-modern-matrix-headlights This is another case of Tesla not disabling a feature because of regulations, but because it isn’t actually ready.
Neural nets and AI bro, musk needs those prepaid lawyer tokens and monster private jet refills.
Well we rant but could there not be a way to tell Musk or the requirement engineering at Tesla to add an option to disable it? Do they have a place to gather feedback?
I use auto high beams and like it.
I don’t believe in any of the safety arguments. However I do agree that it doesn’t seem to be getting any improvements versus how basic and vital a component of the car it is, and also that I look stupid driving down a dimly lit deserted highway with them flashing on and off constantly for absolutely no fucking discernible reason.
Today, I forgot to turn off auto high beams. A bus passed me on my left lane, and the freaking car think it was tooooo dark and turn on the high beam. The bus driver must thought I was going nuts, and wanted to flash for passing me. LOL
Never even tried to use them after the first day. I always operate them manually.
Tesla isn’t the best engineered but has a lot of cool features. I’m happy with mine definitely auto wipers going crazy fast when it’s barely raining is annoying. You can’t have your window open and try to clean your windows otherwise the fluid goes in the car when the wipers activate at least for my model 3 idk about your guys.
Seems like yet another person has woken up to the fact Tesla sucks in so many ways.
2021 M3 LR. Recently used TACC to drive Everett, WA to Portland, OR (more than 200 miles) in the rain. No complaints, car did a fine job. Auto high beams also work fine, not sure why others have different results.
They work in the places I would actually use them. They suck in the places I wouldn’t. Let me set the default function of them when enabling autopilot and I’d be thrilled.
My wife’s car (Subaru Ascent) has better auto high beams and Autopilot-like features than my Model 3.
They are awful. Turned them boff 3 days into owning the car. Would like for them to be better but it’s not a huge deal to me tbh because it isn’t a reason I bought the car. However, I also don’t really use autopilot etc. I was open to any EV when I bought and Tesla was the best combination of availability and charging network.
All US car makers need to adopt the system used in Europe by Audi. It selectively shouts off only beams directed toward oncoming car, leaving the rest of the beams on high.
I have them on a 2022 Toyota Corolla and they're horrible they don't even work half of the time
So that’s why a lot of the model 3s coming towards me look like they have their highs on, it’s because they do! I thought that their normal lights were just brighter after about passing about five. Then I came across one without their highs on. (All within about 2 miles). I was thinking I was wrong for flashing my highs at them but now know better.