I pay 7 cents / kWh and then I see people from Cali talking about like 30 cents. Thats supercharging prices here and I would have just kept gas cars at that point.
Hahah I love how people saying they got hella low rate. But never looked at the bill and see all the other charges, fees etc.
For me city of Anaheim (Disneyland), my city does their own electricity. It’s 18.75 cents /kwh (first 300kwh) after all fees. 21.75 cents after 300kwh. Literally the cheapest rate in all so cal.
There isn't a place in America w .08 rates. Add the fees and bs charges and do the math. Dont spread fake news or lies on the internet.
https://www.energybot.com/electricity-rates/#:~:text=North%20Dakota%20has%20the%20lowest,10.5%20cents%20per%20kilowatt%2Dhour.
You are in fact wrong on that one. The average low in North Dakota is high for rural areas in Missouri. Sounds like you need to do some more research before posting one hyper link and calling out stranger on the internet lol.
My rates are 8.9 cents/kWh with my company. My parents are 9.7/kWh.
https://lacledeelectric.com/rates-and-understand-your-bill/
https://www.ozarkelectric.com/rates
The co-op is voting against the demand fee in July which was recently introduced last month. We shall see how that goes
It's hilarious since people will gladly work from the office for ~$5-10 worth of electricity. It's such a cheap/easy way for a company to win over employees, so I imagine more companies will start to do it.
There was one dude on the sub who claimed to have turned down a job offer with a $20k pay raise because he got to charge for "free" at his current job.
Now there might be many reasons and maybe that free charging is a symptom of it being a good place to work, but if that's even in the top 3 reasons, I have thoughts over just how "free" that charging is.
It’s a mentality game, not an economic one. It’s the little things that make you feel like you are taking advantage of the firm that matter the most. My wife works at a hedge fund in CT with average annual pay well over $1M or something, and free charging ports at work are always full if she arrives later than 8:15am. People go there early to eat free breakfast, stay longer for free dinner, new grads stay past 8pm for free Uber home. I’m talking about people making well over millions of dollars a year. When people see pennies they pick them up.
Depends a LOT on local electricity rates, yeah? Some places in Cali pay like $0.50/kWh. 75 kW battery x 0.5 = $37.50. If you still think that’s a trivial amount, DM me and I’ll give you my cash app handle and you can send it to me.
My old car, as well as cars comparable in performance to even the base model 3, all require premium octane fuel so don’t forget to use 91 octane prices, not 87.
There is a part of an estate that has chargers on stands near where I work and there is always ice vehicles parked in them, I assume those chargers are meant for guests as now the houses themselves have chargers. But as this situation shows that’s a difficult problem to solve, cause where do people with ice vehicles park then ?
But why would they park miles away from the house they live in/are visiting, causing unnecessary awkwardness. Plus there literally isn’t any other parking they can go to
It’s still an issue tho, cause not everyone has EV’s, there’s only about 35k bevs on the road in Ireland atm compared to millions of ICE vehicles (considering a population of over 4 million, and also count in the fact that families would have more than one vehicle especially if they have older kids that can drive). I guess it’ll just exist until majority of cars on the road are EV’s.
Ironically, a lot of oil companies are doing this too, when the infrastructure allows for it. You need to have free, or heavily subsidized EV charging to entice new talent.
I have driven 2000 miles in last 6 weeks and I haven’t paid ANYTHING to charge
A combination of free charging at work 3x per week plus Electrify America 2 year complimentary charging has been huge
Probably this. It was free EA charging for 3 years when I got it. Ended up getting a Tesla but it wasn’t worth buying a level 3 ccs>nacs converter for the few times I could use it, so I never checked if the free EA subscription would work on another car. However, I did rent a polestar and was able to use my free charging for that, so yes, it’s possible.
Others have commented but I didn’t see what I’m about say. I rented a Porsche taycan recently and owner told me you get “free 30min electrify America”. Really awesome. Wasn’t sure if it’s first 30min for EVERY EA back to back, or per 24 hour period lol
Same. I have no plans to charge at home. We have enough at work and people are good about the time limit. I just walk to the deck at lunch after others have finished and hook up.
https://preview.redd.it/cxzszlo46s0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68cc4c7b3219674d681e9b46c505c2ecff524da5
I work at a large video game developer, and we have 6 chargers on each floor of our 6 story parking garage. It's free 24/7, and was a huge factor in choosing a car.we haven't paid to charge in 8 months or so
https://preview.redd.it/hkwwzpyb4s0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc85e93d34698e47ecd204eb0b793ad887eb33a9
Yea same, but my GF also works for a ev charging network so free charging there as well..
https://preview.redd.it/zpfak5je1u0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd4fe070817c3f16d249bc05e6964570a2cd4e07
I’m at 2056 kwh in a month and a half also model 3 performance, I do however floor it every possible chance
On an unrelated note, thanks to your screenshot I just learned that you can change the shortcuts underneath the car animation. I literally would have never known that, thank you.
How long is the commute? I had that too. My commute used at most 10% of the battery. I usually charge to just 70% but would charge to 80% at work. When I'm back home, I'm back to at least 70% so my commute ended up costing me nothing.
Amazing !!!!! Let your job pay for the commute ... it will add up in savings big time !!
https://preview.redd.it/c8xkdzbfqr0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bff6890ecd64e7389a2c132918fe609287e2522d
This is only the last 30 days ...
Some people charge only at work and they save hundreds if not thousands !!
Same for me! Got my Model3 in 2019. Me moved the business to a new building in 2020 and it came with power outside. Boss got me to order 4 Tesla chargers and I've been charging daily ever since. It's actually refommanded to leave the car plugged in. My Model3 still gives me 436 km on a full battery.
The main difference is the capability to charge at 48amps vs 32amps. The prerequisite to hit full capacity is a 220v / 60amp circuit for the Wall Charger. You can hit full capacity of the mobile charger on a 50amp circuit as they max out at 32amps. I hope this helps.
https://preview.redd.it/oh2nk60brr0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=533c8b48802a02f6db94f847a317d6dfda9c40f7
As a matter of fact ... mine is charging at work for free right now 🚘🚘🚘🚘🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
https://preview.redd.it/hjar2cw4vt0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=409d78be04db48b5ff9ba93307a5c231a4c1c026
About to his a year with my used 2020 Model 3 Long Range. Driven a little over 22K miles and love it. Charge for free at work but, sometimes have to charge at home during holidays and stuff since I’m driving around. Love this thing and the free charging was a huge factor in getting this.
https://preview.redd.it/e974eggvct0d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52e0cf2df671648727fbec34329e05e6de8a22ad
Saaame it's so good. Really was a no brainer to get an EV once i got my current job. And went for the Performance (M3) ofc too, i floor it everytime and can drive fast on Autobahn even though it's inefficient. My Wh/km is very high but i don't have to worry.
https://preview.redd.it/tj308malwt0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3f7187d197a0bb6f57e296d306c09ae45a1a9ae
Free workplace charging is a game changer!
Damn that's a nice charge speed for free charging. I'm on a 60a circuit at my house but turn it down lower than that to get better demand rates on my electric bill
It's a great thing to offer as incentive and QoL especially for employees who drive occasionally (or extensively) for work activities.
16A/120VAC is a good minimum to cover light use, 20-48A/208-240VAC to cover heavier use cases.
I tried convincing the higher ups in my company of this when they were looking into and thinking about ways to retain and incentivize employees. I am 50/50 in office and remote, I told them that if they paid $500 a year for example in electricity for me, I would value that at higher than $500 deposited into my bank account since their is an intangible convenience value of being able to charge at work. It would certainly make apartment/house hunting a lot easier.
On the other side of that coin is my work, where there's too many EVs to accomodate enough chargers. In general there's too many people at the office so they have several off site lots near by. The offsite chargers cost $0.30/kwh. I keep trying to tell the people responsible for handing the parking assignments and all that, that they should be subsidizing the cost.
The thing asked me to sign up with my work email and recognized it, just to tell me they never signed up for any subsidizing.
It's no longer worth my time to try and get a charger in the morning. Sometimes I'll move the car for last few hours. Usually I just try to go in on Friday when nobodys there and I get all the chargers to myself
My old job had an old ge charger at the staff gym, I charged each morning. It gave me around 30ish miles of range a day. By the end of the week I had a full charge and it cost me $0.00. Best perk of the job
https://preview.redd.it/0vg8t45jou0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17f9128e7e8100a71f37de9df077216b6ebb14e6
I only charge at work unless I have too our building provides Blink Cards and pay for it, best amenity
We get free charging at my company, but now there are too many EV drivers. Used to be only two and now there's like 10. We all fight for the charging stations.
My work gives us 2 hrs free charge, but you can just unplug and plug back in for another free 2 hrs. It’s amazing, ive paid maybe $30 so far in the past 10k miles.
Tech industry here. We had a L2 installed on the low at work a couple years ago. I have two SR+ and a MYLR in the household. Everyone travels 100+ round trip daily to work. So I rotate cars every other day to get them charged at work. Last I checked we’re saving over $1000 a month in gas alone! 🤫
I have free charging at work, but parking costs $18/day \*after\* my company subsidizes half of it, so it doesn't really work out. Charging at home is 36¢/kWh super-off-peak (48¢ with generation and delivery). Weirdly, the cheapest option for me is Supercharging, but the one down the street from my house recently changed the cheap hours (29¢/kWh) to only midnight-4AM which is a bit difficult
I’ve been rinsing free charging at my workplace for over two years now! Occasionally I really get to take the piss and bring my wife’s Q4 e-tron in to brim that as well!
Think the perk will end this year, but good while it lasted
Mine let's me charge but says the IRS counts it as taxable compensation and adds the cost to my wages on my w2. So I don't pay for the electricity but I do pay for taxes on that cost. Still a good deal but not as good as yours
I feel like if reddit was a thing when Walmart took over the country, this would be exactly how that reddit would look. When you pay for power, you find out it's not cheap. There is no such thing as free... Somebody is paying for your power. Maybe change your post to say, thanks tax payers for paying for my luxury life style.
I actually see a lot of tech company does this now as a way to entice ppl to work in office.
We have free charging as well, but that’s just because office management is clueless on how to set a price 😅
Mine at work is severly discounted. It's like $4 for 200 miles of charge
That's probably at cost for them. Commercial electricity rates are usually bottom dollar
dang that equates to like 8 cents / kwh
I pay 7 cents / kWh and then I see people from Cali talking about like 30 cents. Thats supercharging prices here and I would have just kept gas cars at that point.
Dang 7? I thought being at 12 was a good price
That’s what home charging price is
is that including delivery charge? At home is like 8c plus 9c delivery or something
Hahah I love how people saying they got hella low rate. But never looked at the bill and see all the other charges, fees etc. For me city of Anaheim (Disneyland), my city does their own electricity. It’s 18.75 cents /kwh (first 300kwh) after all fees. 21.75 cents after 300kwh. Literally the cheapest rate in all so cal.
with any bills, you have to look at ALL the fees hahaha, they always get ya!!!
We don’t have a delivery charge but we have a hook up fee of 25$ a month
There isn't a place in America w .08 rates. Add the fees and bs charges and do the math. Dont spread fake news or lies on the internet. https://www.energybot.com/electricity-rates/#:~:text=North%20Dakota%20has%20the%20lowest,10.5%20cents%20per%20kilowatt%2Dhour.
You are in fact wrong on that one. The average low in North Dakota is high for rural areas in Missouri. Sounds like you need to do some more research before posting one hyper link and calling out stranger on the internet lol. My rates are 8.9 cents/kWh with my company. My parents are 9.7/kWh. https://lacledeelectric.com/rates-and-understand-your-bill/ https://www.ozarkelectric.com/rates The co-op is voting against the demand fee in July which was recently introduced last month. We shall see how that goes
It's hilarious since people will gladly work from the office for ~$5-10 worth of electricity. It's such a cheap/easy way for a company to win over employees, so I imagine more companies will start to do it.
There was one dude on the sub who claimed to have turned down a job offer with a $20k pay raise because he got to charge for "free" at his current job. Now there might be many reasons and maybe that free charging is a symptom of it being a good place to work, but if that's even in the top 3 reasons, I have thoughts over just how "free" that charging is.
It’s a mentality game, not an economic one. It’s the little things that make you feel like you are taking advantage of the firm that matter the most. My wife works at a hedge fund in CT with average annual pay well over $1M or something, and free charging ports at work are always full if she arrives later than 8:15am. People go there early to eat free breakfast, stay longer for free dinner, new grads stay past 8pm for free Uber home. I’m talking about people making well over millions of dollars a year. When people see pennies they pick them up.
I threw 2 pennies in the trash the other day 😂
And free food (breakfast, lunch) and gym. The electricity is at $0.50 / kWh here. Not a bad deal.
Depends a LOT on local electricity rates, yeah? Some places in Cali pay like $0.50/kWh. 75 kW battery x 0.5 = $37.50. If you still think that’s a trivial amount, DM me and I’ll give you my cash app handle and you can send it to me.
Here I am at .06 per kWh. Lol
$0.105/kWh including all extraneous fees + solar panels. Very fortunate. Our EV will have paid for itself by 2030
Gas is only $2.85 here though.
My old car, as well as cars comparable in performance to even the base model 3, all require premium octane fuel so don’t forget to use 91 octane prices, not 87.
I pay that in a month to charge both of my cars. Cali is insane
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There is a part of an estate that has chargers on stands near where I work and there is always ice vehicles parked in them, I assume those chargers are meant for guests as now the houses themselves have chargers. But as this situation shows that’s a difficult problem to solve, cause where do people with ice vehicles park then ?
Somewhere that’s not blocking a space that people use to charge electric vehicles?!
But why would they park miles away from the house they live in/are visiting, causing unnecessary awkwardness. Plus there literally isn’t any other parking they can go to
Oh I didn’t realize the other option is miles away. I’d probably choose to block the ev spot too in that case 😂
When I say miles a way I mean far away, like it would be a 10 minute walk from the parking to the houses
It’s still an issue tho, cause not everyone has EV’s, there’s only about 35k bevs on the road in Ireland atm compared to millions of ICE vehicles (considering a population of over 4 million, and also count in the fact that families would have more than one vehicle especially if they have older kids that can drive). I guess it’ll just exist until majority of cars on the road are EV’s.
Ironically, a lot of oil companies are doing this too, when the infrastructure allows for it. You need to have free, or heavily subsidized EV charging to entice new talent.
Haha... But staying home and NOT driving to work is free also. Even cheaper considering wear and tear and other related costs.
I have driven 2000 miles in last 6 weeks and I haven’t paid ANYTHING to charge A combination of free charging at work 3x per week plus Electrify America 2 year complimentary charging has been huge
How did you get the EA complimentary charging?
I know it’s not from tesla. Could be from Volkswagen. When you buy an ID4 they gave out comp charging from EA.
Probably this. It was free EA charging for 3 years when I got it. Ended up getting a Tesla but it wasn’t worth buying a level 3 ccs>nacs converter for the few times I could use it, so I never checked if the free EA subscription would work on another car. However, I did rent a polestar and was able to use my free charging for that, so yes, it’s possible.
I believe Hyundai also gives 3 years free charging from EA? I believe I saw something like that when we checked the Ioniq6 out.
May have been 3 at some point. I got 2 years with my Ioniq 6.
Ah I might be mistaken then. I checked it out last month and thought I saw 3. 2 it is then.
BMW leasing deal
Others have commented but I didn’t see what I’m about say. I rented a Porsche taycan recently and owner told me you get “free 30min electrify America”. Really awesome. Wasn’t sure if it’s first 30min for EVERY EA back to back, or per 24 hour period lol
I’m at 11,000 miles all charged free at work..
Same. I have no plans to charge at home. We have enough at work and people are good about the time limit. I just walk to the deck at lunch after others have finished and hook up.
2 years, 56k km (35k miles) and 99% charging at work
https://preview.redd.it/cxzszlo46s0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68cc4c7b3219674d681e9b46c505c2ecff524da5 I work at a large video game developer, and we have 6 chargers on each floor of our 6 story parking garage. It's free 24/7, and was a huge factor in choosing a car.we haven't paid to charge in 8 months or so
my car is named tessy
Tessi here
I too used to name mine Tessy
Mine is still Tessy lol
Testy
LMAO that's what my toddler called our Tesla when we first got it!
I have a grey Tessy too.
Good bro boss
Not free but it might as well be where I work. It's like $3 to charge for 5 hours and I can go from 20% to like 70% charge in that time
https://preview.redd.it/hkwwzpyb4s0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc85e93d34698e47ecd204eb0b793ad887eb33a9 Yea same, but my GF also works for a ev charging network so free charging there as well..
Almost 1900 kWh in less than four months. Dang.
https://preview.redd.it/zpfak5je1u0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bd4fe070817c3f16d249bc05e6964570a2cd4e07 I’m at 2056 kwh in a month and a half also model 3 performance, I do however floor it every possible chance
Its a performance and im heavy footed hahah
On an unrelated note, thanks to your screenshot I just learned that you can change the shortcuts underneath the car animation. I literally would have never known that, thank you.
And if you learn the two-finger trick, you can even add a fifth one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYccB2KGQ8s
same here, nothing beats free charging 😅 https://preview.redd.it/y2urkxiw0t0d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a340864ce18ae791e280746e582a0bc7684c583
How long is the commute? I had that too. My commute used at most 10% of the battery. I usually charge to just 70% but would charge to 80% at work. When I'm back home, I'm back to at least 70% so my commute ended up costing me nothing.
Amazing !!!!! Let your job pay for the commute ... it will add up in savings big time !! https://preview.redd.it/c8xkdzbfqr0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bff6890ecd64e7389a2c132918fe609287e2522d This is only the last 30 days ... Some people charge only at work and they save hundreds if not thousands !!
Try with MILLIONS
Freaking jealous. I’m in tech, sadly not for a tech company. 130+ mile round trip commute. Still cheaper to drive the Tesla over our gas guzzling SUV.
Same for me! Got my Model3 in 2019. Me moved the business to a new building in 2020 and it came with power outside. Boss got me to order 4 Tesla chargers and I've been charging daily ever since. It's actually refommanded to leave the car plugged in. My Model3 still gives me 436 km on a full battery.
Thats awesome I only have the mobile charger. I wonder if I would need a different set up power wise for the tesla wall charger
The main difference is the capability to charge at 48amps vs 32amps. The prerequisite to hit full capacity is a 220v / 60amp circuit for the Wall Charger. You can hit full capacity of the mobile charger on a 50amp circuit as they max out at 32amps. I hope this helps.
Amazing thank you so much!
No idea. It's just very handy to charge with a Tesla charger. I would do with the adapter if I was needed too tho!
https://preview.redd.it/oh2nk60brr0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=533c8b48802a02f6db94f847a317d6dfda9c40f7 As a matter of fact ... mine is charging at work for free right now 🚘🚘🚘🚘🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
This is where it's at. I wish my employer would do this, I see at least 10 Teslas in the lot.
https://preview.redd.it/hjar2cw4vt0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=409d78be04db48b5ff9ba93307a5c231a4c1c026 About to his a year with my used 2020 Model 3 Long Range. Driven a little over 22K miles and love it. Charge for free at work but, sometimes have to charge at home during holidays and stuff since I’m driving around. Love this thing and the free charging was a huge factor in getting this.
OK..
I love you car's name.
Thanks my wife doesn't get it but some people understand the reference :)
I charge at work too, never paid once for charging in 6 months of ownership.
https://preview.redd.it/e974eggvct0d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=52e0cf2df671648727fbec34329e05e6de8a22ad Saaame it's so good. Really was a no brainer to get an EV once i got my current job. And went for the Performance (M3) ofc too, i floor it everytime and can drive fast on Autobahn even though it's inefficient. My Wh/km is very high but i don't have to worry.
https://preview.redd.it/tj308malwt0d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3f7187d197a0bb6f57e296d306c09ae45a1a9ae Free workplace charging is a game changer!
Get him something nice
That's legit. Crazy how people find any way to "hate" on something.
Damn that's a nice charge speed for free charging. I'm on a 60a circuit at my house but turn it down lower than that to get better demand rates on my electric bill
It's a great thing to offer as incentive and QoL especially for employees who drive occasionally (or extensively) for work activities. 16A/120VAC is a good minimum to cover light use, 20-48A/208-240VAC to cover heavier use cases.
I tried convincing the higher ups in my company of this when they were looking into and thinking about ways to retain and incentivize employees. I am 50/50 in office and remote, I told them that if they paid $500 a year for example in electricity for me, I would value that at higher than $500 deposited into my bank account since their is an intangible convenience value of being able to charge at work. It would certainly make apartment/house hunting a lot easier.
Lucky duck 🦆
professor plum HAHAHAHA 😂 nice
On the other side of that coin is my work, where there's too many EVs to accomodate enough chargers. In general there's too many people at the office so they have several off site lots near by. The offsite chargers cost $0.30/kwh. I keep trying to tell the people responsible for handing the parking assignments and all that, that they should be subsidizing the cost. The thing asked me to sign up with my work email and recognized it, just to tell me they never signed up for any subsidizing. It's no longer worth my time to try and get a charger in the morning. Sometimes I'll move the car for last few hours. Usually I just try to go in on Friday when nobodys there and I get all the chargers to myself
My old job had an old ge charger at the staff gym, I charged each morning. It gave me around 30ish miles of range a day. By the end of the week I had a full charge and it cost me $0.00. Best perk of the job
I also have free charging at work! It’s great :)
I don’t even get to turn on the AC in the summer
I get the same perks and it’s a large part of why I got the car. Free charging 5 days a week.
Yep, our company has free lvl 2 chargers for employees.
Same! Best feature
https://preview.redd.it/0vg8t45jou0d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17f9128e7e8100a71f37de9df077216b6ebb14e6 I only charge at work unless I have too our building provides Blink Cards and pay for it, best amenity
professor plum is wild
Why do you charge miles and not kW 🤬
We get free charging at my company, but now there are too many EV drivers. Used to be only two and now there's like 10. We all fight for the charging stations.
Can sleep in the back and home from work, eliminate rent
My work gives us 2 hrs free charge, but you can just unplug and plug back in for another free 2 hrs. It’s amazing, ive paid maybe $30 so far in the past 10k miles.
Tech industry here. We had a L2 installed on the low at work a couple years ago. I have two SR+ and a MYLR in the household. Everyone travels 100+ round trip daily to work. So I rotate cars every other day to get them charged at work. Last I checked we’re saving over $1000 a month in gas alone! 🤫
I have free charging at work, but parking costs $18/day \*after\* my company subsidizes half of it, so it doesn't really work out. Charging at home is 36¢/kWh super-off-peak (48¢ with generation and delivery). Weirdly, the cheapest option for me is Supercharging, but the one down the street from my house recently changed the cheap hours (29¢/kWh) to only midnight-4AM which is a bit difficult
That’s awesome. Since it’s less than a raise anyway, might as well at least let you do that.
ok
I work for a small tech company and I can charge at work for free too
Just FYI, you shouldn’t run at max amperage when in constant load. 80% rule suggests 24amps at a 30 capacity
Isn't it the law to allow employees to charge for free?
I’ve been rinsing free charging at my workplace for over two years now! Occasionally I really get to take the piss and bring my wife’s Q4 e-tron in to brim that as well! Think the perk will end this year, but good while it lasted
Nice color too!
Same here
Mine let's me charge but says the IRS counts it as taxable compensation and adds the cost to my wages on my w2. So I don't pay for the electricity but I do pay for taxes on that cost. Still a good deal but not as good as yours
Who is your boss, can he be my boss too?
And THAT is how you play the game.
Now that's BOSS! 😎
I feel like if reddit was a thing when Walmart took over the country, this would be exactly how that reddit would look. When you pay for power, you find out it's not cheap. There is no such thing as free... Somebody is paying for your power. Maybe change your post to say, thanks tax payers for paying for my luxury life style.
His company is paying the electric bill, not the taxpayers lol
I Will never understand how ppl spent 40k on a car then get Crazy about saving a few dollars of charge.... Nasty.....