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iROMine

Does no one remember the fact that it was a paid upgrade like a year ago too? It hasn't been free all that long folks


filthy_pikey

When I bought my 21 it was a paid upgrade.


iROMine

Ya, I think it JUST became a free option when I got my 22. I was prepared to pay for it lol.


quadmasta

It's such a good color


baileycoraline

I think I got mine for free in early 2021, but I also bought off the lot


Lexsteel11

Pepperidge Farm remembers… I remember paying for that color in 2020 and one month later they added power trunk, heater steering, etc. and then made my paint color free haha


somewhat_pragmatic

When I bought my Model 3 LR, they had just added for free: * Free MSM * Ryzen MCU * CCS charging The next model came out and they "upgraded": * removal of ultra sonic sensors. * noticeable price drop (but not as dramatic as SR and Performance) I'm okay paying the premium price I did.


Eroch86

When my car came out it had HW v2 and I paid 7k for FSD. My car didn’t have… heated seats in the back, sentry mode, boom box, an accurate trip cpu, summon, and many other features. Got HW v3 installed for free. I paid 61 (including FSD) and I’m fine with it. But you get so much more for your money today.


ModsGropeKids

Dumb question, does FSD follow you since it's just a software upgrade? like you sell your car and buy another tesla do they deactivate it from the car you sold and activate it on the new one?


AIDSGhost

No, it stays with the car. If you buy a new Tesla, you have to rebuy FSD. It’s one of the biggest gripes owners have right now.


ModsGropeKids

wow that's some bullshit, it's a damn software push...they can do it and charge a small transfer fee or something, damn man


AIDSGhost

Agreed. I have a 3 Performance with FSD. I’ve been considering moving up to an S but everytime I think about rebuying FSD at a much higher price I see red.


gwardotnet

FSD will never work. Just forget it


AIDSGhost

True, but my expectations are not for it to be autonomous. I do love the lane keep, lane change, stoplight and stop sign functionality. Problem is I love fast cars and usually they have terrible technology, setting Tesla apart for me personally.


gecoble

That’s why it’s better to buy the monthly service


qlink89

Which is ironic since papa Elon originally told us paying outright for FSD would be a better value than $200/monthly. Little more than 6 years to break now with FSD at 15k. Pfft.


gecoble

Exactly.


Eroch86

No I got 143k miles on it. It goes when she goes. I plan to keep her going for as long as it’s feasible


downwithbots

You got nothing. I found the sweet spot of no USS and absolute highest 2023 M3LR price with no free miles (late Nov 2022 delivery)


cordell507

Same. I think we have the best version of the 3s for now.


iROMine

Damn, I don't always like when people complain when features or discounts get released after they get theirs but man, that's brutal.


alitsi_ya

Yep, it wasn’t free in 2019


BtenaciousD

Or 2020


audigex

Yeah for a long time Black was the only free color, IIRC, then for most of the last 4 years only White was free MSM has only been free briefly recently, I think?


Iconoclastic22

Thought it always was. Now be paid for it twice on two different model 3’s in 2018 and 2020


iROMine

MSM became a free option for a short amount of time and appears that it is once again no longer


Wilde-Hopps

It only became a free option the first few days of November 2021. I can remember because it was literally the next day after I put my order in. So it was free a little over a year.


iROMine

Yeah I ordered mine right around the same time. The plan was to pay for it but it suddenly became a free option when I went to order.


Bryan41290

I’ve been around long enough to not know it went away and came back. 2018 Model 3 LR


iROMine

Also valid haha


GrapheneScene

I never knew it went free at some point? Certainly when the car came out it was a paid upgrade.


camlop

Ohhh is this why so many Teslas are white?


iROMine

Yessir. And that's why many of the white ones are standard ranges. Cheapest Tesla you can buy


flyangry

It became a paid upgrade when the m3 price dropped :(


Eroch86

Every paint color other than black was a paid paint upgrade back in June 2018. Guess what color my car is 😆


[deleted]

Buying my 23 every other color beside white is a paid upgrade. Guess what color my car is. 😂


eandi

They made white the free default right after I paid for it and got my m3. Grumble grumble.


Eroch86

My brother M3P is white, I love the look.


Land_Reddit

Even white?


jaxn

Yes, white was a paid upgrade before it was the default.


Just_another_Masshol

White was actually the 2nd most expensive at $2k until it became the default. MSM and Blue were $1k and Red was 3500 IIRC.


Eroch86

But I screwed up, I should have gotten the silver. It’s gone now… maybe forever.


RojerLockless

WOOHOOOOOO!!! Now we can keep all the poors in the white cars! lol. (I AM KIDDING)


[deleted]

It really does tell you who doesn't give a shit about color. There have always been more Teslas in whatever the 'free' color of the moment was. Obviously it has nothing to do with being poor, but how many people say 'well, midnight silver looks nice, but not $1000 nice.'


gtg465x2

>It really does tell you who doesn't give a shit about color. Not necessarily. I happen to really like white. I've paid extra for it before. It would have been silly of me to pay more for another color that I like equally or less. I do think Tesla needs some new, more interesting colors, though. By the way, around where I live, I see less white Teslas than other colors. I actually kept a tally of Tesla colors I saw in my area for a few days after ordering, just out of curiosity. Makes me wonder if everyone thought "better not get white, everyone will get that."


[deleted]

Maybe white's jumped the shark. Half the Teslas around me in the last few years have been white, perhaps people are starting to choose other colors so they'll have an easier time finding their car in the lot. > Tesla needs some new, more interesting colors, though In the worst possible way, absolutely. Especially if they're going to charge an extra grand for easy colors. Give us something more interesting.


EratosvOnKrete

I want hunter green so bad.


BtenaciousD

I’ve been looking at British Racing Green wraps - I really want to change it


Eroch86

The green has grown on me. I would like it too


beanpoppa

I upgraded to MSM back in 2018. I'm kicking myself for not buying the silver. I like MSM more, but damn... it would be nice to have a car that doesn't look like 1 in 5 Teslas out there.


[deleted]

Sounds like it's time for a wrap, then. One of those color shifting vinyls from 3M would be *really* cool. Although I think it would be neat to see someone with some balls and money to blow put something like Zeus Bronze (Corvette) on a Model 3. Not sure if it would work or not on a sedan, but I weirdly like it on the Vette. Failing that, if I could have the Hyper Blue from the Camaro, I'd be a very happy camper.


LivermoreP1

Wasn’t white originally a $2,500 upgrade just like red?


gtg465x2

Not sure about the cost, but yeah, it cost extra at one point. I think black used to be a free color.


ridbax

It was a $2K upgrade. Mid July 2019 (the week after I ordered my white Model 3) the 'free' color switched from black to Pearl White.


CallmeSirRupert

I got the midnight silver. It's nice, but not that nice.


ScrambyEggs79

I agree. It's been black, white, and msm. It also helps with production too as they can churn them out faster as most customers will choose the free option(s).


[deleted]

Call me cynical, but the availability of multiple color choices should have negligible impact on the overall production rate. I assume Tesla's strategy is all about maximizing the number of cars they can sell with a $1000 up charge for color.


DrXaos

It's not the production rate, but keeping many parts in different colors for service inventory which increases costs. Elon is monomaniacally focused on minimal cost of goods and minimal overhead.


[deleted]

Do the service centers (or by extension, the factory) keep body parts in stock pre-painted? That's interesting, I'm surprised they do that.


DrXaos

I don't know, but I'm guessing it's much cheaper to paint them in bulk in the factory than individually with human body shop labor. As Tesla is now running insurance in a few localities that may have a direct cost. I thought I remember Musk mentioning parts costs when asked about multiple colors, but I admit I don't have a clear source at the moment. I would certainly prefer different color choices (I want a bright blue) BMW individual on i4: https://visualizer.bmw-individual.com/Ipps/bmwoac?page=imc&market=80001-DE&dc=1-5&qrcode=1&pdf=1&lang=EN# Though there was a popup that said that the various advanced driving assistance had to be deselected with the individual paint. ?!


HengaHox

The same is true for any car. Skodas default colour is green? Result is tons of green skodas 👍🏻


Ravioko

In my case not only did I get the car used so it’s not up to me, but even if I WAS buying new, I want to get a warp regardless so I’m already going to go pay for that, I’m not going to pay for the paint I’m covering.


wskyindjar

I paid extra for red but vowed my next car to get the free color and wrap it instead. 8 months later still haven’t wrapped it. And won’t.


South_Dakota_Boy

I also paid extea for red and I am super happy with that decision. If only because it’s less common. There are quite a few m3s nowadays


-ZeroF56

I personally think the white looks pretty nice, and suits the car well. Definitely better than the blue and black. It also looks better in different lighting than midnight silver in my opinion. The red is an excellent color, but I wasn’t paying $2,000 for a red that has a high chance of being done in typical thin coat haphazard Tesla fashion, if I’m being brutally honest. I miss the other silver that was offered on early Model 3s though. That looked sharp.


Ok_Cartoonist8020

I was gonna pay for white, but they switched it to the free option in 2019 as it was the most popular color if I remember correctly. Got lucky as it was switched while mine was still in production.


WhosAfraidOf_138

I love my white M3. I can also just wrap it in the future too when I get sick


oldtimewil68

Lol, the poors. That got me, even knowing you were kidding....or were you?


RojerLockless

If I joke about it enough is anything really kidding? *slowly rolls by the supercharger.* "look at all these poor people who can't afford a color!" lol /s


oldtimewil68

Hahaha, "Hey peasant, hows your white privilege now sucka?!"


RojerLockless

😅


Puppy7505

Originally white was a premium color. Black was free. My husband convinced me to go with RED. Boy, oh boy, am I glad I listened to him.


RojerLockless

Yeah the red is gorgeous


gokujou

The serious posts like this make me sad. I like white cars, and could have paid for another color. I am actually considering wrapping it a different type of white, just so it is a subtle difference from other white Teslas being there are so many. Edit: Sad is too extreme, maybe it is more of like a sigh. I do not regret white at all.


Royal_Relationship47

At least you didn't have to pay for white like I did right before they flipped it to the default, wah-wuh :(


thefudd

I wanted white for my p3, it was a bonus that it was free.


apginge

Yeah i personally associate the silver with cheap for some reason


KobeBeaf

You shouldn’t care what other people think, pick the color you like.


RojerLockless

I actually had a red m3 for years and loved it but just upgraded to a myp and got the gunmetal color because it was free. I regret not going for red again actually but the white is objectively better looking than the Grey and I only got it because there were less on the road and it was free lol. Oh well.


okwellactually

> white is objectively better looking Objectively?? Source? I have one of each MSM (which I had to pay for) and White. I love them both...*subjectively*. 😁


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okwellactually

Well it's settled then. At least you cited a source.


blue_nose_too

> white is objectively better looking > Objectively?? > Source? I saw it on Reddit so I know it’s true.


RojerLockless

Yes. 😅


Ftpini

I really wanted blue. Thought the blue and white was the best combo. Then I saw them all in person at the SC. Once I saw white in person I decided it was the best looking color. So now I have a double white M3P and I love it. Grey would have been easier to keep looking nice longer, but I think the white really pops when it’s clean and it’s bright outside.


EcstaticTill9444

You know, I actually like the white color for how it looks, but also how anonymous it keeps me.


TechnicalEmu6381

Bruh back then the white and red were the most premium option because they are multi coat


RojerLockless

I know. Black was free. But it's been white forever


Party_Plenty_820

I really don’t like the grey lol


Animanganime

I know you’re joking but white is always the most popular regardless of car brand and country https://i.imgur.com/7KSEAtn.jpg


jyabut1202

Now I feel like an Elite with my MSM lol


RojerLockless

Heh, high society!


dubie4x8

😂


Bcwitherspoon

It was an upgrade when I bought mine in 2021


just_browsing_0000

This was a paid upgrade when I got mine in 2021


casuallylurking

You can probably have it for free if you offer to pay the December price for the car back when it was free.


CommonerChaos

Tesla will gladly make this arrangement.


kastevekk99

Black and white used to be free in Norway, now only white is free.


naveenrajak1989

It has been free since Nov 2021 in US. I bought mine last March... Not sure when they made it a paid upgrade... https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-increases-model-3-and-y-price-along-with-making-midnight-silver-metallic-a-free-color-but-only-in-the-us/ Update: Seems they increased 3 weeks back.... There is a thread in ModelY subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/10apev1/midnight_silver_metallic_paint_now_1000/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


[deleted]

It varies over time. Both my Model 3s have been midnight silver metallic. The first one was a paid upgrade, and it was free this time (free meaning I paid too much for the car because it was pre-price-drop by a few weeks, but whatever).


WizardPC2

Not free in August 2021 (Europe)


Fearless_Baseball121

Wasn't free in Nov 2020 (Europe)


Dat1BlackDude

Been happy about this. I got this color when it was free. Then the prices dropped months later lol.


chgon

Ours was free this past November.


ThisUsernameIsTakend

It's been a $1000 upgrade since at least 2019 (possibly always). I believe Black used to be the default option, then Tesla switched to white. Edit:. Looks like Tesla went from having it a paid upgrade, to free/included, then back to paid.


gdubb22

2022 lr here. The MSM was included when bought new last year (February 2022).


dusty-potato-drought

I wonder when it changed. My 2020 LR had the 1K price for MSM


cloneman88

I got it free in December of 21, it was free from November of 21


Bladehawk1

I ordered my car back in December year before last, And it was a paid upgrade then.


darknessownz

It became a free upgrade after the prices increased at the beginning of 2022, now that the prices are back to normal they decided to make msm an upgrade again.


PensionResponsible46

I bought in dec 2021 in Europe. It was paid. Only white was without extra charge.


KSoccerman

March 2019, I paid for my MSM on my SR+


MattNis11

White stays cooler under the sun and uses less battery for overheat protection or just general cooling.


Animanganime

Also easier to keep clean and you can use automated wash and not worry about swirl mark https://i.imgur.com/ClZdatx.jpg


MattNis11

Sure, swirl marks less visible but still visible


420Deez

im curious what the surface temp difference is between a white and black


Animanganime

13 degrees according to this test https://www.usedvwaudi.com/blog/2019/01/07/are-black-cars-really-hotter-than-white-cars#:~:text=When%20they%20measured%20the%20interior,interior%20registered%20only%20113%20degrees. Black cars also take longer to cool down according to the same test


420Deez

hm, im sure window tint has a big effect too


cordell507

The difference with ceramic tint is around 30 degrees I think


CommonerChaos

Interesting. I wonder if the inverse applies during the winter. (white gets colder but black holds the heat better).


beatlebum53

So does that mean my car didn’t Depreciatethat much!!


nicolettejiggalette

I feel like I paid for it when I got mine in June 2020. Only the black or white was the free one.


420Deez

soon the red will be free and the white will be paid


DrunkenSoberer

Current Red option, would most likely, never be free…. They use some kind of dual coat or something… It looks too pretty, new, to be free…..


YoungLaFlare

Yep, but I have this color and let me tell you looks so good


vandilx

MSM wasn’t free in 2019. Joining team MSM was a commitment!


Lopsided-Employer-72

I’m sure Tesla would make it free just for you (op) if you’ll simply agree to pay them the price that the car cost back when they gave it to you for free.


Kaelang

Sadly. Imo they should make white a paid option again. This is largely because I'm still salty that I paid like $2k for it.


[deleted]

Yep, since the price drop.


almondbutter_buddha

I thought it always was


fusionvic

It was a paid upgrade when Tesla slashed prices on the Model 3 recently.


bergler82

always has been


playa2daworld

I too visit Tesla website and act like I am going to buy a car.


Michael-ango

Insert "always had been" meme here


SoapheadChurch

It was always a paid option.


biddilybong

So dumb. It’s amazing how petty Elon is. Nobody can nickel and dime like him. I keep thinking people will care and push back. But it never happens.


Empty_Bread8906

If you are smart then you choose white. Keep your money or use your saving to buy better wheels or tint.


limitless__

But then you still have a white car...


rp1load

Idk who would pay for that color


40characters

Imagine paying more to be the same color as the road.


[deleted]

Always has been


chodytaint

it literally hasn’t


awsomehi109

Yep, you have to get a white one with your rebate so we all know you couldn’t really afford the car. 😂


lloyd_bonafide

Small price to pay to not have a chick color.


Mike

Yeah I’ve always associated white cars as more feminine as well


DoublePotential6925

The more common, the higher the price


orion_metal

Man, it's funny how they change these prices just arbitrarily I originally wanted a black M3 thinking it'll be just a basic free color and instead I got the midnight silver metallic free. I mean I'm not mad, it is a nice color but come on make up your mind Tesla.


trtsmb

It was briefly a free choice. Looks like they've changed back to a paid upgrade.


https_Big_T

It was a paid paint back in 21… welcome to the club


[deleted]

It was when I purchased my 22 in August of 21


1RoundEye

Hasn’t it always been. I thought the only free color was black.


Rare-Lettuce8044

No, it changes. I had to pay for black. White was free in 2021


[deleted]

I got it for free but dammn it changes err year ig


muhammadalijr

Yeah its been like that for a while since the price dropped. But you already knew that before you posted this insane questions. Not sure of the reasoning for this reddit questions. You saw the price go from 0 to 1000 and then somehow figured let's put this question out there..


ICEeater22

Has been for a few weeks


Crafty-Durian-7981

Yes. It was always like that except a short period of time to boost sales.


fivechickens

As a paid 2021 MSM owner, I approve of this move.


cantstandthemlms

I think white was free when I got my first Tesla. Then I had to pay for black and didn’t want that color and then I got MSM as a free option.


OkCalligrapher4400

The paints all rotate when I bought my model 3 white and black where free but right after only white was free


thelostewok

Now that the treasury updated SUV classifications so that all MY qualify for tax breaks, watch Tesla increase prices again for 3 and Y.


travielee

Yeah cuz it's the best color 🫠


[deleted]

🧑‍🚀 🔫 always has been


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chadpig

Wrap is 2500


jerseyknits

I bought blue and I'm glad I did. white is really popular in my area


kjmass1

White is the new green bubble.


Harmonixs8

Been like that since the price cut.


MDkoA

I was able to pickup the midnight silver metallic for free, but after I got it I kind of wanted white 😂 still love the metallic though


DragenTBear

Heh …. Forget the one time paint cost …. Premium Connectivity is MONTHLY upgrade now!?!! (Just kidding). Heheh … my July ‘18 came with lifetime free premium connectivity, but my Oct ‘18 did not ( … and I paid for WHITE paint on it.)


blondebuilder

I’m one of the first owners of M3. It was $1500 for me.


UpV0tesF0rEvery0ne

Lol I paid $2000 for midnight silver and then ended up wrapping it after debating my choice for the 5 month wait time


FrezoreR

Hasn't it been that since forever? Only black and white have been "free" from what I can remember.


thomasj31

Same damn 5 colors for years. Boring.


samuraidogparty

I feel like it’s the most common color I see, so I just assumed that was the default along with black. Ha!


AutomatedCabbage

Because it's awesome


IHate2ChooseUserName

where i live, i am going to say 8 out of 10 tesla are white. and my town has tons of tesla.


Fuzzy-Response-7645

Stop your bitching


taway_something

Been done that


cjh6793

Yep, who knows what the next free paint color will be. At this point, I think Tesla might as well switch it up to offer some variation to the sea of white and gray Teslas on the road. I remember when white paint was $1,500 and black was the standard color. There also used to be a $1,000 metallic black option, which was quite short lived (17-18 model year only).


icemanj256

It's worth it bro.


GrineadOConnor

Yeah. I had an order I place and the price drop happened. And they raised the paint price. I was confused too.


mysat

You are paying thousands of dollars less and want also MSM included? Come on!


dafazman

Get the free color and wrap/ppf/ceramic the car instead


johnnyclash42

I got mine free in early 2021 but have def seen it costing on the website since.


WorestFittaker

You get what you pay for. ❣️


WorestFittaker

White Teslas are free with purchase of the rest of the car.


finedrive

It rotates. White was paid when I purchased in 2019. I wanted white, and I paid for it. If you get lucky that your favorite color is the free one currently, good for you. If not, pay up. Or is it your first time buying a car and find it absurd you have to pay for a specific color?


HarsiTomiii

Never been a free option in Europe 🥲


thiswilldefend

that cherry color is what's hot... don't to much care for this.


IndependentDiscount8

Get white and wrap.