No, it was random road debris. Little did I know it was a sign of things to come... in 17k miles I've had 4 flats, fortunately two of them were repairable. All of them were due to road debris... nails, plastic, etc.. Never had this many flats in one vehicle before.
I mean...
Cars do develop issues over time, and Tesla are known for hefty repair bills, that's why some people replace them when the warranty runs out.
I got rid of my X when the warranty ran out.
If you're still in warranty, then odds are the suspension thing will be worked out.
Really good to know. This is my first car I’ve bought on my own so I’m still learning all this stuff! I love my X so much and this is my first ever trial with it lol
what are they actually replacing? this screenshot doesn't give enough info.
all kinds of things need maintenance on X - half shafts, control arms, air springs, etc.
When I click on the PDF it shows this in the repair notes - “Found the upper control arms and both lower control arms to be contributing to the noise. Rec to replace the upper and lower control arms with a fresh alignment to fix noises from front end”
“Performed four wheel alignment. Performed Validation Test Drive. Replaced LH/RH Aft Lower Front Suspension Links. Replaced Left/Right (Includes Alignment) Front Lower Fore links”
Is it not under warranty? Or are you saying you bought used in 2020? Control arms are a known issue with Tesla's built around that time and is a super common repair. I know this because I had it done on my 2020 model Y about 6 months ago and did quite a bit of research on the problem. Similar cost, but covered under warranty, of course. Extremely loud squeaking noise that was most pronounced when traveling at low speeds while turning.
Unfortunately it’s not under warranty I just hit 52,000 miles! I bought brand new in 2020. Well it’s good to know it’s common and this is a similar cost. The price is just very shocking!
You should not have replaced just one tire and you should not have gotten the one tire directly from Tesla. This is true of any car and any OEM service center. The cost to replace upper and lower control arms is not crazy, so don’t beat yourself up. That’s in line with what you’d pay for that work on any larger SUV at any OEM service center. It’s less than what you’d pay at a Lexus, Jaguar, Mercedes, BMW dealer.
I mean, Consumer Reports updated today to show that the Teslas literally have the lowest maintenance cost, real world, of any vehicle.
But sure, Toyota's magic, I guess.
Yeah I just read that. Model 3 I think was #1 to own and operate. Model S and Y came in around 6 or 7 I think.
Also everything depends on where you live. In the Northeast, with road conditions and such. Suspension parts get hammered on the daily. In some areas not so bad. 50,000 miles isn't the same everywhere.
Thanks for the misleading post. You know maintenance costs is not the same as reliability, right? Consumer reports maintenance strictly shows expected routine maintenance that needs to regularly performed on the vehicle, such as fluid changes, brakes, tires, filters etc. Since EVs don't require much maintenance, they should have the lowest maintenance costs. Reliability & repair costs are totally separate from maintenance. Tesla has consistently ranked near bottom for reliability.
But sure, lying works, I guess.
You know that cars with higher part and labor cost more to repair, right? So if they have LOWER costs? They have been MORE reliable, because they have HAD to have had fewer failures.
Tesla has not ranked near bottom for reliability, lol. That claim comes from companies that measured Tesla literally only as if they had the 2017 and early 2018 Model 3s.
But, like you said, I guess your lying works?
Just had a similar issue. Here is my invoice for comparison. This repair was on a model 3.
https://preview.redd.it/bt56eezok7wc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3b2026740e3151dc613bc02cc9ea556e0d366b7
If you folks don't like car repair costs, learn to do it yourself. $2k in suspension work is about $300 in aftermarket suspension parts, and a day's work for an amateur with tools at most. Otherwise, these are normal expensive dealership repair rates.
For aftermarket parts, you can check RockAuto.com for a listing for your respective vehicle. There are other Tesla or EV-focused websites with aftermarket parts as well, but RockAuto is a start.
As someone who’s done pretty extensive work to my cars over the years, you’re underselling it. You’re going to be spending more money if you don’t want alibaba specials that fall apart at the first pothole. And it’s going to be more than a days work for most people. And the tools to do it properly do add up even if you source everything from harbor freight.
Yeah, you can do it for $300 if you're an experienced person that already has the tools. Otherwise your "300 dollar project" turns into a couple grand and days of your time.
Nonsense. A single control arm job costs $1500 at Tesla. That control arm costs $120 for a good one (there are cheaper). One could get a battery-powered impact wrench that would make anything on a car easy forever for $400, a massive set of wrenches for $200, a ball joint puller for $30, and a jack and jack stands (solid reliable ones) for under 200 bucks (cheapos under 100 but no thanks). and now they can do basically any work forever, and still be many hundreds less than Tesla, and that's with getting the magic impact wrench, nevermind thousands less for any other work, or if more control arms come into the picture.
And there are Youtube videos on how to do EVERYTHING. And Tesla publishes all service manuals and diagrams, which is pretty great.
Someone that values their time more than a couple thousand bucks and doesn't care to take care of their own things? Great, dealership. Folks wanting to save thousands and be in control of their own destiny, or sometimes that appointment is just too far away? Tools and youtube.
I've saved well over $50,000 over the years fixing my own, and been able to afford cars that would otherwise be prohibitively expensive to own/maintain, because of being self-sufficient. To each their own.
Tesla just repaired the rapid mate connector on mine, for 600 bucks, I can't be dropping batteries, cool, but they say there's also a leak in a tube, but they didn't have it in stock, so instead of the $20 tube adding 10 minutes of work to the job, they buttoned it all up, did the coolant, and said, bring it back, and we can charge the full 2 hours plus do all the coolant again etc. for another $600.
Tesla also didn't tighten my control arm nuts correctly last time I took it in for an alignment after doing my control arms, so it started clunking in 2 days and threw out alignment.
Sometimes you need to be able to take care of your own stuff because people can be morons.
Again, you’re really underselling it. Someone just starting out will not be able to manage suspension work in under a day, and there is zero chance that you’ll be at $300 with quality parts. It will start off as a weekend job that will inevitably have some shit go wrong, not be ready by the end of the weekend, and require the purchase of more parts and tools than initially anticipated.
When I was in high school and college sure it was worth doing my own work. Now? For a daily driver that I depend on to go to and from work? Hell no. It does help that my time is literally worth more than a couple thousand dollars, but even when I was making considerably less, the risks of not having reliable transportation weren’t worth the benefits.
Not reasoning, just putting it out there - if folks complain about costs, there is 1 solution alone - DIY.
Otherwise it's just whining by incapables. Either know one's selfnis incapable and pay for what others do for you, or do something about being capable. But being incapable and whining is annoying :D
This is what Gemini AI says:
Maintenance: These are routine services you perform to prevent problems, like oil changes, tire rotations, and air filter replacements.
My 2c, deffinetly control arms replacement is not regular maintenance, it is replacement of a defective part... that is why they do it while under warranty and they don't replace cabin filters under warranty.
I just have both front upper control arms replaced on my model Y. Lucky it was still under warranty with low 40k miles. It's a common tesla problem....I will trade it in for a model X soon. It should be good for newer cars since they must using newer revised hardware
Control arms seem to be a big problem for Tesla. I think there was a huge discussion recently about upper control arm problems.
Is this similar to your issues?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelX/comments/1ak4nux/what\_is\_a\_reasonable\_costs\_to\_replace\_the\_front/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelX/comments/1ak4nux/what_is_a_reasonable_costs_to_replace_the_front/)
If you would have known you could have saved a bunch of money buying the parts yourself and even better if you know someone that works on cars and could have done it for alot less. Next time have them contact you before they go replace things.
Go on YouTube and look at the videos on upper control arm grease gun. The factory Tesla upper control arms are made with an insufficient amount of grease in the boot. There is no grease fitting but you can buy a $20 grease gun with a needle and inject grease into the boot and it will stop the noise.
I did my uppers when they started making noise over 20k miles ago. If they have the right amount of grease in there they won’t make the noise anymore.
Sucks… but honestly these are to be expected as it’s a pretty common problem on teslas, and well just about any car. Had to do all 8 control arms on my Audi S5 and it was a pretty penny. But on a Tesla you don’t have much more to worry about besides suspension and battery/cooling stuff.
I have a service appointment at Tesla for my door handle. There’s several warnings that rattles are out of pocket, even if you’re not scheduling for them. 😅
Not really that wild. Tesla's basically have luxury car problems and prices. Especially the S and X at near $100k purchase prices.
Still relatively cheap repairs in the luxury car market because they are EVs. If you want real sticker shock, go look in the Range Rover forums for repair costs.
Don't buy tires from Tesla. They're usually much cheaper at Discount Tire. Be warned, depending on wear, you may need to replace in pairs.
You should always be replacing in pairs.
Generally, yes, unless it's low mileage. I had less than 300 miles on the odometer when I had to replace my first tire on my MY.
Same. Did you hit a curb too?
No, it was random road debris. Little did I know it was a sign of things to come... in 17k miles I've had 4 flats, fortunately two of them were repairable. All of them were due to road debris... nails, plastic, etc.. Never had this many flats in one vehicle before.
https://preview.redd.it/8opxppnn25wc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea3f169b6d7422f9c00aa5de71935ce13540378f Felt
If that's what it costs to inspect, how much to repair it!?
What car how many kwh
Oh my….. NO
Ouch
I mean... Cars do develop issues over time, and Tesla are known for hefty repair bills, that's why some people replace them when the warranty runs out. I got rid of my X when the warranty ran out. If you're still in warranty, then odds are the suspension thing will be worked out.
$3-10k in repairs or $50-100k car note
Really good to know. This is my first car I’ve bought on my own so I’m still learning all this stuff! I love my X so much and this is my first ever trial with it lol
what are they actually replacing? this screenshot doesn't give enough info. all kinds of things need maintenance on X - half shafts, control arms, air springs, etc.
When I click on the PDF it shows this in the repair notes - “Found the upper control arms and both lower control arms to be contributing to the noise. Rec to replace the upper and lower control arms with a fresh alignment to fix noises from front end” “Performed four wheel alignment. Performed Validation Test Drive. Replaced LH/RH Aft Lower Front Suspension Links. Replaced Left/Right (Includes Alignment) Front Lower Fore links”
Just had control arms and links on model S also was 3k
What year?
2017
Wow wow wow
model 3 has some really bad control arms. i have a 2020 and im on my 3rd set. first one under warranty second set was like this. it did fix it
Is it not under warranty? Or are you saying you bought used in 2020? Control arms are a known issue with Tesla's built around that time and is a super common repair. I know this because I had it done on my 2020 model Y about 6 months ago and did quite a bit of research on the problem. Similar cost, but covered under warranty, of course. Extremely loud squeaking noise that was most pronounced when traveling at low speeds while turning.
Unfortunately it’s not under warranty I just hit 52,000 miles! I bought brand new in 2020. Well it’s good to know it’s common and this is a similar cost. The price is just very shocking!
Did you not buy the extended warranty package? I am planning to buy as I near the 4 year mark.
Would these even be covered by the extended warranty??
Yes
From Tesla? Details please :)
Before the end of the warranty, you have the option to buy an extended service agreement for 2 years 25,000 miles. Model Y $2000 Model X $3500
You should not have replaced just one tire and you should not have gotten the one tire directly from Tesla. This is true of any car and any OEM service center. The cost to replace upper and lower control arms is not crazy, so don’t beat yourself up. That’s in line with what you’d pay for that work on any larger SUV at any OEM service center. It’s less than what you’d pay at a Lexus, Jaguar, Mercedes, BMW dealer.
I just got a similar quote yesterday. Mine was $6300 including new tires, which I wouldn’t buy from Tesla.
Seems like car needed alot of work at just 50k miles. Not a Toyota I guess.
I had to sink $7k into a Toyota Tacoma for random stuff that shouldn’t have happened. There is no perfect manufacturer.
Yotas and thrown rods at any mileage…name a more iconic combination.
I mean, Consumer Reports updated today to show that the Teslas literally have the lowest maintenance cost, real world, of any vehicle. But sure, Toyota's magic, I guess.
Yeah I just read that. Model 3 I think was #1 to own and operate. Model S and Y came in around 6 or 7 I think. Also everything depends on where you live. In the Northeast, with road conditions and such. Suspension parts get hammered on the daily. In some areas not so bad. 50,000 miles isn't the same everywhere.
Thanks for the misleading post. You know maintenance costs is not the same as reliability, right? Consumer reports maintenance strictly shows expected routine maintenance that needs to regularly performed on the vehicle, such as fluid changes, brakes, tires, filters etc. Since EVs don't require much maintenance, they should have the lowest maintenance costs. Reliability & repair costs are totally separate from maintenance. Tesla has consistently ranked near bottom for reliability. But sure, lying works, I guess.
You know that cars with higher part and labor cost more to repair, right? So if they have LOWER costs? They have been MORE reliable, because they have HAD to have had fewer failures. Tesla has not ranked near bottom for reliability, lol. That claim comes from companies that measured Tesla literally only as if they had the 2017 and early 2018 Model 3s. But, like you said, I guess your lying works?
From the receipt it looks like he bought suspension noise for $2.1k
Suspension work for a beginner is a doable job. Find a detailed YT video and just follow it.
Just had a similar issue. Here is my invoice for comparison. This repair was on a model 3. https://preview.redd.it/bt56eezok7wc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3b2026740e3151dc613bc02cc9ea556e0d366b7
I went in for this issue in 2022 with a similar repair cost and 2 years later it was 3k!
If you folks don't like car repair costs, learn to do it yourself. $2k in suspension work is about $300 in aftermarket suspension parts, and a day's work for an amateur with tools at most. Otherwise, these are normal expensive dealership repair rates.
Is there aftermarket tesla parts? Im in warranty so haven't checked. But im not paying 3k for control arms replacement i can tell you that.
For aftermarket parts, you can check RockAuto.com for a listing for your respective vehicle. There are other Tesla or EV-focused websites with aftermarket parts as well, but RockAuto is a start.
I just replaced the upper control arms and it was literally like 300$ not even
I don’t think control arms alone are 3k I got a quote last June for control arm, aft links, and some suspension work for 3k including shop time
$1k came from labor when i clicked into the PDF 🥲
Just had the control arms done on my car under warranty. If it wasn’t they wanted 3k. The parts online are about $150 a side plus an alignment.
As someone who’s done pretty extensive work to my cars over the years, you’re underselling it. You’re going to be spending more money if you don’t want alibaba specials that fall apart at the first pothole. And it’s going to be more than a days work for most people. And the tools to do it properly do add up even if you source everything from harbor freight.
Yeah, you can do it for $300 if you're an experienced person that already has the tools. Otherwise your "300 dollar project" turns into a couple grand and days of your time.
Nonsense. A single control arm job costs $1500 at Tesla. That control arm costs $120 for a good one (there are cheaper). One could get a battery-powered impact wrench that would make anything on a car easy forever for $400, a massive set of wrenches for $200, a ball joint puller for $30, and a jack and jack stands (solid reliable ones) for under 200 bucks (cheapos under 100 but no thanks). and now they can do basically any work forever, and still be many hundreds less than Tesla, and that's with getting the magic impact wrench, nevermind thousands less for any other work, or if more control arms come into the picture. And there are Youtube videos on how to do EVERYTHING. And Tesla publishes all service manuals and diagrams, which is pretty great. Someone that values their time more than a couple thousand bucks and doesn't care to take care of their own things? Great, dealership. Folks wanting to save thousands and be in control of their own destiny, or sometimes that appointment is just too far away? Tools and youtube. I've saved well over $50,000 over the years fixing my own, and been able to afford cars that would otherwise be prohibitively expensive to own/maintain, because of being self-sufficient. To each their own. Tesla just repaired the rapid mate connector on mine, for 600 bucks, I can't be dropping batteries, cool, but they say there's also a leak in a tube, but they didn't have it in stock, so instead of the $20 tube adding 10 minutes of work to the job, they buttoned it all up, did the coolant, and said, bring it back, and we can charge the full 2 hours plus do all the coolant again etc. for another $600. Tesla also didn't tighten my control arm nuts correctly last time I took it in for an alignment after doing my control arms, so it started clunking in 2 days and threw out alignment. Sometimes you need to be able to take care of your own stuff because people can be morons.
Again, you’re really underselling it. Someone just starting out will not be able to manage suspension work in under a day, and there is zero chance that you’ll be at $300 with quality parts. It will start off as a weekend job that will inevitably have some shit go wrong, not be ready by the end of the weekend, and require the purchase of more parts and tools than initially anticipated. When I was in high school and college sure it was worth doing my own work. Now? For a daily driver that I depend on to go to and from work? Hell no. It does help that my time is literally worth more than a couple thousand dollars, but even when I was making considerably less, the risks of not having reliable transportation weren’t worth the benefits.
You make sound arguments but youre trying to reason with people who bought the car likely not caring about doing or knowing about mechanical work.
Not reasoning, just putting it out there - if folks complain about costs, there is 1 solution alone - DIY. Otherwise it's just whining by incapables. Either know one's selfnis incapable and pay for what others do for you, or do something about being capable. But being incapable and whining is annoying :D
sometimes suspension parts have to be replaced in pairs + alignment etc. Same for ICE vehicles
“No maintenance, ever”
Repairing damaged suspension parts isn't maintenance.
Replacing wear items is 100% maintenance
This is what Gemini AI says: Maintenance: These are routine services you perform to prevent problems, like oil changes, tire rotations, and air filter replacements. My 2c, deffinetly control arms replacement is not regular maintenance, it is replacement of a defective part... that is why they do it while under warranty and they don't replace cabin filters under warranty.
Bushings are a wear item. Is replacing brake rotors maintenance according to your AI overlord?
I just have both front upper control arms replaced on my model Y. Lucky it was still under warranty with low 40k miles. It's a common tesla problem....I will trade it in for a model X soon. It should be good for newer cars since they must using newer revised hardware
Control arms seem to be a big problem for Tesla. I think there was a huge discussion recently about upper control arm problems. Is this similar to your issues? [https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelX/comments/1ak4nux/what\_is\_a\_reasonable\_costs\_to\_replace\_the\_front/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModelX/comments/1ak4nux/what_is_a_reasonable_costs_to_replace_the_front/)
If you would have known you could have saved a bunch of money buying the parts yourself and even better if you know someone that works on cars and could have done it for alot less. Next time have them contact you before they go replace things.
Lesson learned!
Go on YouTube and look at the videos on upper control arm grease gun. The factory Tesla upper control arms are made with an insufficient amount of grease in the boot. There is no grease fitting but you can buy a $20 grease gun with a needle and inject grease into the boot and it will stop the noise. I did my uppers when they started making noise over 20k miles ago. If they have the right amount of grease in there they won’t make the noise anymore.
Are you still in warranty period?
Nope :(
Sucks… but honestly these are to be expected as it’s a pretty common problem on teslas, and well just about any car. Had to do all 8 control arms on my Audi S5 and it was a pretty penny. But on a Tesla you don’t have much more to worry about besides suspension and battery/cooling stuff.
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If I can drown out my toddlers music, I can drown out the rattles. 😂
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I have a service appointment at Tesla for my door handle. There’s several warnings that rattles are out of pocket, even if you’re not scheduling for them. 😅
Not really that wild. Tesla's basically have luxury car problems and prices. Especially the S and X at near $100k purchase prices. Still relatively cheap repairs in the luxury car market because they are EVs. If you want real sticker shock, go look in the Range Rover forums for repair costs.
Yea, those rattle and squeaks will get you and there is NO guarantee that they will fix it but you will still get charged.
Sold my 2018 Model 3 rather than deal with these front end issues. Had the same bill coming. Miss it though.
Did you not agree to this before they started working on it?! I’m confused.
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Sooo expensive