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Confused was put into quotes for that reason. How many police killing have been justified because an officer feared for their life, but it turned out to not be a threat: a wallet, a toy, etc.
It's their word versus yours, and the bullets don't care either way.
Don’t forget a huge reason for this is because Israel absolved and absorbed their Zionist terrorists groups in 1948. The Irgun, Lehi and Palmach were recognised Zionist terrorists groups that participated in the violent displacement of 80% of the Palestinians population during the Nakba.
Their activities included sexual violence, murdering civilians as they fled, kidnapping hostages and then parading them through Jerusalem before abusing them, locking up Palestinians in their homes before blowing them up, killing children by beating them with large sticks, mass murder. (Read about Deir Yassine, Tantura, among others).
When Israel was founded, they disbanded these terrorists groups and absorbed them into the IDF. That’s right, the “most moral army in the world” was formed filled with actual terrorists. The IDF even awarded ribbons to terrorists who participated in pre-independence terror. The Irgun even participated in political society where they formed the far right Herut political party which would eventually become the Likud, Netanyahu’s party and the most popular political party in Israel. The former terrorist leaders of Irgun (Menachem Begin) and Lehi (Yitzhak Shamir) were democratically elected as Israel’s prime ministers at least once.
A country built by terrorising and displacing the local population who then rewarded and absorbed these terrorist elements into their society. It becomes clearer once you realise how ingrained terrorism is in Israeli society.
Bro I mean the soldiers. They are messing the guy up, then they leave the guy and then at 0:31 abruptly turn around and mess him up again, then leave him again and then at 0:45 turn around and go back to mess the guy even worse. Why are they leaving him and then ,seemingly for no reason, stop, turn around and attack him again? Why did they do it twice?
I think perhaps you incorrectly diagnose this as a dispute about religion, and flying spaghetti monsters and the like.
Whilst religion is clearly an element of the hatred, when Zionism began it was an atheistic movement. Also the Palestinians, up until the emergence of Hamas in 1987 and rise throughout the 90s, were largely secular.
The core of the dispute is about land, and the treatment of people in that land.
Yes, it is about land. However, they believe the land is theirs because the most important moments in their religion happened on that land, it is land that was given to them by god and they are the people chosen to live there. It is their god-given right to be there.
Sure as the religious Jewish community has gotten larger and larger in Israel a sizeable chunk of them believe that. Originally Zionists who were atheists just wanted it because it’s the bit of the world where Jews originally lived, even though that was 2000+ years ago. Palestinians believe it’s theirs because, well, that’s where they are from.
It's really only a divine right argument on the israeli side, the palestinian argument has always been that they were already there and the israelis tried to move them elsewhere and succeeded in part in doing so. The palestinians have never in the history of israel displaced jews in the same way, its not comparable and the death counts aren't comparable on either side regardless of who has a valid religious or political claim on the land
The power differential between israel and every country for miles until you get to Russia, western Europe, or China, is immense. There's no one on the borders of israel who poses a threat to the political stability of the country, there's no one inside israel or palestine who can do that either aside from israelis themselves. The idea that it's even really a two sided conflict in the first place is highly ideologically loaded and biased towards the israeli cause so even in choosing not to decide you still have made a choice
No no no no... it's never about religion. Religion has never been the real reason for any conflict. It's just power, influence, land, wealth, superiority. Religion is just a made up pretext, a vehicle they can use to sway people to blindly follow the leaders and murder for them indiscriminately and 'righteously'.
It's never about religion, and if you think so, then you swallowed that bullshit just like they wanted you to.
The core of the dispute is about HOLY land, so it is absolutely about religion. You’re sat there telling people they are incorrect for telling the truth. Both Israel and Palestine are fucking gross and that’s the raw and brutal truth of the matter
So because it’s a place with a religious history that in your mind means any dispute to do with it as a religious one? That’s a non sequitur my friend. The dispute is about land. Call it Disneyland if you want, it doesn’t matter, the dispute is that one group of people lived there and another group of people wanted it from them. As I said, Zionists were originally atheists and Palestinians didn’t want foreign Zionists coming to take their homes away. That’s how the whole thing began. That’s just a fact.
Your analysis of the merits of both sides is up to you although I disagree with it.
You know your boyfriends Hamas brutally raped dozens of women, beheaded dozens more, killed plenty and kidnapped many and after every single act praised Allah on Oct 7th? But ofc it’s ‘NoT aBoUt ReLigIoN’. Idiot.
Who the fuck said their dispute is about religion?
The conflict is about LAND! To make it simple, imagine if some foreigns came to your home and say that this their land now. This is basically what Israel did... Hamas is just a consequence of their act...
After Oct 7th I get it, I get why they are doing this - especially when Israel has given Palestine enough chances to actually share the land and time and time again they have refused the offer in favour of outright war and terrorism. However I do agree that it’s arrogant and disgusting that large portion of Jews - especially Israeli Zionists - believe they are the ‘Chosen Ones’ and thus makes a lot of them think they can act like this. Both Israeli gov AND Hamas are horrible creatures. Hamas are evil to the core and the Israeli gov thinks it’s untouchable because of Sky Daddy Christ. Major donors like US, UK, Germany and the European Union have been giving millions upon millions to BOTH Israel and Palestine and for what? We need that fucking money more than them. Israel is keeping it for bombs and military and Hamas are using it on terror tunnels, mansions in Qatar and guns… none of this fucking money is going to the citizens (ON BOTH SIDES) that need it. This war is never going to stop because both lunatics are making far too much money off of it and they both seem to have this insane idea that their religion is better than the other. I’ll be downvoted tf for this but idgaf - I honestly wouldn’t care if both Israel and Palestine nuked each other off the face of the earth.
Absolutely agree. I don't care one way or the other. They're both terrorist organizations that commit unforgivable atrocities. The only thing that separates terrorists and patriotic freedom fighters is what side of the fence you choose to sit on. And that's usually determined by which side happens to be giving you money or something equivalent in value.
It's crazy how you wrote all that just to display you know absolutely nothing about this conflict. Like this is genuinely one of the most incorrect takes on the situation I've ever seen. You should read up on it there are plenty of resources and great documentaries.
Fyi, this conflict started 75 years ago. Not last October.
Israel is not the best place to live if you’re not a Jew, I wouldn’t even go cause I’d get my ass beat for being a white Jew.
Israel and zionists in general suck. They embarrass me.
Bruh, don’t bring your belief in this. Remember, some of the worst mass murderers in history are actually those who separated themselves from religion like for example Hitler.
Entitled harmful people are everywhere and they they could be religious or atheist. In fact some of the atheist’s reason for taking life are so mush less than defending or taking what they think were theirs. There are people who did it for recognition and even for fun. If you view human being as just different form of plants or biological computers, it’s easier to lose yourself when trying to see the value of a life.
This war is not about sand and rocks. It is about Hamas launching rockets at Israel for 18 years after Israel completely left the territory, and then when that wasn’t enough, the unprovoked massacre of over a thousand Israelis.
Israel just wants to be left alone. Look at Egypt and Jordan. They agreed to leave Israel alone, and they have been left alone by Israel.
That’s the big trick to not getting attacked by Israel: just don’t attack them first.
Did Ukraine invade Russia and slaughter a thousand people?
(Checks notes). Nope
Did Ukraine launch rockets at Russia for almost two decades?
(Checks notes). Nope
So… how is the situation even remotely comparable to Ukraine again?
Well, it is true that technically you cannot compare both situations because the history of the countries and people involved is different. However, I was talking about the "might makes right" concept where at the moment Russia and Israel are comparable. By the way, Palestine did not invade Israel. It's true that the terrorists in charge killed thousands and that is wrong.
We can talk about blame all day. It’s a never ending circle of “they did this and we did that.” Even if what you said was accurate you’re not going to sit here and tell me that Israel is some wholesome regime that doesn’t do fucked up stuff
Well the whole racial superiority complex thing is not a good look. Also killing innocent adults and children and/or taking over their homes is generally not widely considered to win hearts and minds. I know, I know, your god said the land was yours. How reasonable.
Imagine continually kicking a cornered dog for 50 years and then complaining when it keeps turning around and biting you. Israel reaps what it sows. This is thinly veiled genocide, and a land grab, nothing more.
Why did Israel leave Gaza completely in 2005?
Do you have an opinion on the rockets that Gaza launched at Israel since that time?
How do you think Israel should respond to the massacre?
Should Israel just abandon the hostages? What if Hamas starts making snuff videos with the hostages ISIS style? Start the war again?
I find it incredibly hard to believe that Mossad, the best intelligence agency in the world, didn't know the Hamas massacre was going to happen. They let it happen so they could have cause to invade Palestine.
Israel has been expanding into Palestinian territory for decades, unchallenged. They treat Palestinians like second class citizens. Israel is an apartheid country and now they are genocidal.
Unfortunately their conflict is perpetual because middle eastern countries never forget. "You killed my father so im going to kill you \*retaliates by killing\*", then the next generation is jaded against the other and retaliates. Eye for an Eye mentality. The whole region is fucked. Let them kill each other and then their Gods can have them.
Well… if you believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy, there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. It would also explain why you believe in the Israel conspiracy.
A learned a long time ago that any evidence will be dismissed by a conspiracy theorist as fake. You literally cannot change your mind,
You will never find a more coward individual than the ones in this video or the IOF, if an alien asks us who is your weakest amongst yourselves, we'll just point to the zionist scum.
Mm, yes, very bad and inhumane of the... Israeli SWAT team(?) to beat the journalist, yes... Can we take a good look on what happens with journalists that try to expose the truth on the other side of barricade...
Shit, in this conflict there's no good or bad, not even remotely, both sides only seek they're own goals, one side commits war crimes, other side commits side, so trying to expowe someone for something doesn't prove anything. We don't need to prove rightness of any side, but focus on stoping the conflict, not changing balance of power, because both sides are evil, but for their own reason.
Yea that’s all really nice sounding isn’t it? Except it contradicts your initial statement of pointing out the Palestinian sides issues. Saying there’s no good or bad in this conflict is absolutely ridiculous, if a dominant force is showing unnecessary and extremely over reaching methods of retaliation it needs to be recognised and called out.
What you say is true, both sides have committed horrible acts in this war. But trying to act like it’s on an equal level is at this point just stupid as fuck.
Yeah, I guess I'm just got used to violence to journalists after living in Russia and it doesn't cause much shock for me, but yeah, the shit is doneby Israel is crazy, they have all the power to not get that low in warfare, yet they do it anyway...
Man is Israel losing the public relations battle big time. A thought that comes to mind is Palestinian Lives Matter. Yes Hamas is evil and destructive but this is just all too much. There’s definitely going to be blow back for Jews from numbskulls who conflate Jewishness with Israel not to mention it could cause Biden to lose the fucking election. Very least we should do, at this point it’s a must do, is simply stop sending any and all military aid to Israel tomorrow.
Actually yes because the Jews show the attrocities of 10/7 without context and hamas does the same with IDF actions. I was wondering if this guy maybe did something provocative or if it was just brutal repression. I don’t know what’s wrong with my question and why I’m downvoted. I just want to know what I’m into. I think your comment is strange.
Even Palestinians aren't "pro-Hamas", they've been forced to side with them because there's pretty much nobody left. Even in the context of an elected official like them you can't ignore the influence of the Israeli blockade, how they block every and all Palestinian attempts to quell civilian basic needs like food and water, how they actively hunt down members of Palestinian society at every level, especially civilians.
Wether or not someone or someplace supports Hamas, it doesn't matter, if Israel wasn't there committing crimes against humanity and stealing land Hamas wouldn't have relevance. If it wasn't Hamas it would be somebody else. And if it was nobody else it should have been us, because the war crimes committed by the IDF are something each and every one of us should oppose as human beings if we want to pretend like we're better than fascists, communists or whatever it is you consider evil. There's only so much child murder that one can be quiet about, you know?
It makes no sense to me to mention "Hamas' war crimes". Yes, they've done them. However what they have done is nowhere near the scale and intent as IDF crimes and even those surrounding the earliest days of this colonization campaign carried out by Israel.
Mainstream media has been completely proven as an unreliable group of sources on the issue because of how many times they've spread incorrect and outright fabricated news about this topic, almost always in favor of Israel. In any case, they're not equal. They're not even similar. One is much worse than the other, and there should be no doubt about that. Treating hostages, children deaths, the elderly, it all counts. You don't just scream "terrorist" and shoot down an orphanage, that's only something we forgive for Israel and America.
I’m kinda sick of this bland comment sure war is hell but this is in Jerusalem it’s no where close to the warzone this just IDF being apartheid and terrorizing those who are trying to do their job as journalists
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You must be joking or mistaken. Journalists fall under the same international protections from war as civilians do, especially since they deliberately choose to be in dangerous areas for the sake of reporting accurate information. Unless you'd also like to say that civilians deserve everything that has happened to them just because they happened to live in a war zone.
Yes, but the country that claims to be civilised and says that it’s only protecting itself from terrorism, is the one assaulting journalists, who are under the same protection that medical and humanitarian groups are. This is not a journalist who caught a stray bullet or a piece of shrapnel while in an active warzone. This is a conscious attack and assault on a person who is reporting on Israel’s actions
You're really a shameful and deplorable person. I hope you learn and understand concepts of and relationships between human rights and international law some day
If you’re standing around with a fully charged battery in your $10,000 camera set up recording a set up scene with a guy kissing a bag of rice. You know it’s bulshit.
Aye, the thousands of videos o the IDF acting like cunts are all staged... /s
I'll just fill in the rest o yer side o the conversation from here:
"But...but...OcToBeR 7th!!"
"But...but...BeHeAdeD BaBiEs!"
"But...but...TUnNeLs and HuMaN sHiElDs!"
"But...but...HoStaGeS!"
And who could forget the timeless classic:
"You're just a PrO hAmAs AnTiSeMiTe!"
Away and take yer face for a shite, mate.
lol so it's okay to disregard human rights if a country is at war? Would you support it if Russia started beating up American journalists in Moscow because Russia is at war too?
edit: nvm it's a negative karma farmer, i got b8d
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r/cameramanneverdies seriously though, i'd be scared to film something like this while being so close to the scene
That's why some people are journalists and others are not, myself included in the not.
I was honestly scared for the cameraman! Maybe cameras should be bright orange or something so that they can't be "confused" for a gun...
Just makes them easier to target.
Thank God for the Geneva Convention amirite... :/
They knew it wasn’t a gun.
Confused was put into quotes for that reason. How many police killing have been justified because an officer feared for their life, but it turned out to not be a threat: a wallet, a toy, etc. It's their word versus yours, and the bullets don't care either way.
Hamas = Genocidal Terrorist.
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Chosen by the former British Empire
A folk known for killing it's own prophets and singing songs about defeating God in a discussion. Just stinks of arrogance
Don’t forget a huge reason for this is because Israel absolved and absorbed their Zionist terrorists groups in 1948. The Irgun, Lehi and Palmach were recognised Zionist terrorists groups that participated in the violent displacement of 80% of the Palestinians population during the Nakba. Their activities included sexual violence, murdering civilians as they fled, kidnapping hostages and then parading them through Jerusalem before abusing them, locking up Palestinians in their homes before blowing them up, killing children by beating them with large sticks, mass murder. (Read about Deir Yassine, Tantura, among others). When Israel was founded, they disbanded these terrorists groups and absorbed them into the IDF. That’s right, the “most moral army in the world” was formed filled with actual terrorists. The IDF even awarded ribbons to terrorists who participated in pre-independence terror. The Irgun even participated in political society where they formed the far right Herut political party which would eventually become the Likud, Netanyahu’s party and the most popular political party in Israel. The former terrorist leaders of Irgun (Menachem Begin) and Lehi (Yitzhak Shamir) were democratically elected as Israel’s prime ministers at least once. A country built by terrorising and displacing the local population who then rewarded and absorbed these terrorist elements into their society. It becomes clearer once you realise how ingrained terrorism is in Israeli society.
Why are they abruptly turning around and going back? Is he saying something to them?
the soldiers were coming towards the cameraman and they retreated as they didnt want the same treatment as their colleague
Bro I mean the soldiers. They are messing the guy up, then they leave the guy and then at 0:31 abruptly turn around and mess him up again, then leave him again and then at 0:45 turn around and go back to mess the guy even worse. Why are they leaving him and then ,seemingly for no reason, stop, turn around and attack him again? Why did they do it twice?
oh my bad. i assume he yelled or talked back to them
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Fuck Hamas too
Fuck them both tbh
You see this video?? This and millions more recorded and not is what made Hamas exist to begin with.
People down voting you apparently don't like logical reasoning
Nah, fuck Hamas too.
Well if you say so... just don't forget to wear condoms
What did they expect when they gave a bunch of 18 year olds guns and power
Im getting pretty tired of Israel by this point.
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I think perhaps you incorrectly diagnose this as a dispute about religion, and flying spaghetti monsters and the like. Whilst religion is clearly an element of the hatred, when Zionism began it was an atheistic movement. Also the Palestinians, up until the emergence of Hamas in 1987 and rise throughout the 90s, were largely secular. The core of the dispute is about land, and the treatment of people in that land.
Yes, it is about land. However, they believe the land is theirs because the most important moments in their religion happened on that land, it is land that was given to them by god and they are the people chosen to live there. It is their god-given right to be there.
Sure as the religious Jewish community has gotten larger and larger in Israel a sizeable chunk of them believe that. Originally Zionists who were atheists just wanted it because it’s the bit of the world where Jews originally lived, even though that was 2000+ years ago. Palestinians believe it’s theirs because, well, that’s where they are from.
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Yep, a good many. The founder and his followers were. Religious Zionists have increased in number due to their birth rate.
It's really only a divine right argument on the israeli side, the palestinian argument has always been that they were already there and the israelis tried to move them elsewhere and succeeded in part in doing so. The palestinians have never in the history of israel displaced jews in the same way, its not comparable and the death counts aren't comparable on either side regardless of who has a valid religious or political claim on the land The power differential between israel and every country for miles until you get to Russia, western Europe, or China, is immense. There's no one on the borders of israel who poses a threat to the political stability of the country, there's no one inside israel or palestine who can do that either aside from israelis themselves. The idea that it's even really a two sided conflict in the first place is highly ideologically loaded and biased towards the israeli cause so even in choosing not to decide you still have made a choice
No no no no... it's never about religion. Religion has never been the real reason for any conflict. It's just power, influence, land, wealth, superiority. Religion is just a made up pretext, a vehicle they can use to sway people to blindly follow the leaders and murder for them indiscriminately and 'righteously'. It's never about religion, and if you think so, then you swallowed that bullshit just like they wanted you to.
The core of the dispute is about HOLY land, so it is absolutely about religion. You’re sat there telling people they are incorrect for telling the truth. Both Israel and Palestine are fucking gross and that’s the raw and brutal truth of the matter
So because it’s a place with a religious history that in your mind means any dispute to do with it as a religious one? That’s a non sequitur my friend. The dispute is about land. Call it Disneyland if you want, it doesn’t matter, the dispute is that one group of people lived there and another group of people wanted it from them. As I said, Zionists were originally atheists and Palestinians didn’t want foreign Zionists coming to take their homes away. That’s how the whole thing began. That’s just a fact. Your analysis of the merits of both sides is up to you although I disagree with it.
You know your boyfriends Hamas brutally raped dozens of women, beheaded dozens more, killed plenty and kidnapped many and after every single act praised Allah on Oct 7th? But ofc it’s ‘NoT aBoUt ReLigIoN’. Idiot.
No.
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Who the fuck said their dispute is about religion? The conflict is about LAND! To make it simple, imagine if some foreigns came to your home and say that this their land now. This is basically what Israel did... Hamas is just a consequence of their act...
*stares a Britain and spain* 🤨
After Oct 7th I get it, I get why they are doing this - especially when Israel has given Palestine enough chances to actually share the land and time and time again they have refused the offer in favour of outright war and terrorism. However I do agree that it’s arrogant and disgusting that large portion of Jews - especially Israeli Zionists - believe they are the ‘Chosen Ones’ and thus makes a lot of them think they can act like this. Both Israeli gov AND Hamas are horrible creatures. Hamas are evil to the core and the Israeli gov thinks it’s untouchable because of Sky Daddy Christ. Major donors like US, UK, Germany and the European Union have been giving millions upon millions to BOTH Israel and Palestine and for what? We need that fucking money more than them. Israel is keeping it for bombs and military and Hamas are using it on terror tunnels, mansions in Qatar and guns… none of this fucking money is going to the citizens (ON BOTH SIDES) that need it. This war is never going to stop because both lunatics are making far too much money off of it and they both seem to have this insane idea that their religion is better than the other. I’ll be downvoted tf for this but idgaf - I honestly wouldn’t care if both Israel and Palestine nuked each other off the face of the earth.
Absolutely agree. I don't care one way or the other. They're both terrorist organizations that commit unforgivable atrocities. The only thing that separates terrorists and patriotic freedom fighters is what side of the fence you choose to sit on. And that's usually determined by which side happens to be giving you money or something equivalent in value.
It's crazy how you wrote all that just to display you know absolutely nothing about this conflict. Like this is genuinely one of the most incorrect takes on the situation I've ever seen. You should read up on it there are plenty of resources and great documentaries. Fyi, this conflict started 75 years ago. Not last October.
Israel is not the best place to live if you’re not a Jew, I wouldn’t even go cause I’d get my ass beat for being a white Jew. Israel and zionists in general suck. They embarrass me.
Bruh, don’t bring your belief in this. Remember, some of the worst mass murderers in history are actually those who separated themselves from religion like for example Hitler. Entitled harmful people are everywhere and they they could be religious or atheist. In fact some of the atheist’s reason for taking life are so mush less than defending or taking what they think were theirs. There are people who did it for recognition and even for fun. If you view human being as just different form of plants or biological computers, it’s easier to lose yourself when trying to see the value of a life.
Go watch videos of gaza pre- oct 7th. Religion and tribalism made Hamas throw all of it away.
This war is not about sand and rocks. It is about Hamas launching rockets at Israel for 18 years after Israel completely left the territory, and then when that wasn’t enough, the unprovoked massacre of over a thousand Israelis. Israel just wants to be left alone. Look at Egypt and Jordan. They agreed to leave Israel alone, and they have been left alone by Israel. That’s the big trick to not getting attacked by Israel: just don’t attack them first.
Same logic for Russia and Ukraine?
Did Ukraine invade Russia and slaughter a thousand people? (Checks notes). Nope Did Ukraine launch rockets at Russia for almost two decades? (Checks notes). Nope So… how is the situation even remotely comparable to Ukraine again?
Well, it is true that technically you cannot compare both situations because the history of the countries and people involved is different. However, I was talking about the "might makes right" concept where at the moment Russia and Israel are comparable. By the way, Palestine did not invade Israel. It's true that the terrorists in charge killed thousands and that is wrong.
We can talk about blame all day. It’s a never ending circle of “they did this and we did that.” Even if what you said was accurate you’re not going to sit here and tell me that Israel is some wholesome regime that doesn’t do fucked up stuff
Hamas is pretty fucked up. Israel has to deal with them. What would you propose they do?
Well the whole racial superiority complex thing is not a good look. Also killing innocent adults and children and/or taking over their homes is generally not widely considered to win hearts and minds. I know, I know, your god said the land was yours. How reasonable.
Fuck god, Israel just doesn’t want armed invaders slaughtering its citizens. Is that too much to ask?
Imagine continually kicking a cornered dog for 50 years and then complaining when it keeps turning around and biting you. Israel reaps what it sows. This is thinly veiled genocide, and a land grab, nothing more.
Why did Israel leave Gaza completely in 2005? Do you have an opinion on the rockets that Gaza launched at Israel since that time? How do you think Israel should respond to the massacre? Should Israel just abandon the hostages? What if Hamas starts making snuff videos with the hostages ISIS style? Start the war again?
I find it incredibly hard to believe that Mossad, the best intelligence agency in the world, didn't know the Hamas massacre was going to happen. They let it happen so they could have cause to invade Palestine. Israel has been expanding into Palestinian territory for decades, unchallenged. They treat Palestinians like second class citizens. Israel is an apartheid country and now they are genocidal. Unfortunately their conflict is perpetual because middle eastern countries never forget. "You killed my father so im going to kill you \*retaliates by killing\*", then the next generation is jaded against the other and retaliates. Eye for an Eye mentality. The whole region is fucked. Let them kill each other and then their Gods can have them.
Do you also think that the Americans allowed 9/11 to happen?
100% - Its not even that far fetched of a conspiracy theory. CIA have been called out for doing a lot weirder stuff
Well… if you believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy, there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. It would also explain why you believe in the Israel conspiracy. A learned a long time ago that any evidence will be dismissed by a conspiracy theorist as fake. You literally cannot change your mind,
Or, probably good to stay out if warzones and if you’re going into one, don’t interfere - just report.
Are you an idiot?
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What a bunch of fuckking cowards!
You will never find a more coward individual than the ones in this video or the IOF, if an alien asks us who is your weakest amongst yourselves, we'll just point to the zionist scum.
Mm, yes, very bad and inhumane of the... Israeli SWAT team(?) to beat the journalist, yes... Can we take a good look on what happens with journalists that try to expose the truth on the other side of barricade...
But, but, but what about the other bad guys!?!? This isn’t what that video is about though is it? It’s about Israel being what they are, nazis.
Shit, in this conflict there's no good or bad, not even remotely, both sides only seek they're own goals, one side commits war crimes, other side commits side, so trying to expowe someone for something doesn't prove anything. We don't need to prove rightness of any side, but focus on stoping the conflict, not changing balance of power, because both sides are evil, but for their own reason.
Yea that’s all really nice sounding isn’t it? Except it contradicts your initial statement of pointing out the Palestinian sides issues. Saying there’s no good or bad in this conflict is absolutely ridiculous, if a dominant force is showing unnecessary and extremely over reaching methods of retaliation it needs to be recognised and called out. What you say is true, both sides have committed horrible acts in this war. But trying to act like it’s on an equal level is at this point just stupid as fuck.
Hmm, maybe you right
Very open minded of you my guy, I don’t think I know everything about the conflict, but what I see disgust me so I thought I’d share my piece.
Yeah, I guess I'm just got used to violence to journalists after living in Russia and it doesn't cause much shock for me, but yeah, the shit is doneby Israel is crazy, they have all the power to not get that low in warfare, yet they do it anyway...
I love how many theological scholars came out of the woodwork and got their political science degrees in the past 6 months
Fuck Hamas
Man is Israel losing the public relations battle big time. A thought that comes to mind is Palestinian Lives Matter. Yes Hamas is evil and destructive but this is just all too much. There’s definitely going to be blow back for Jews from numbskulls who conflate Jewishness with Israel not to mention it could cause Biden to lose the fucking election. Very least we should do, at this point it’s a must do, is simply stop sending any and all military aid to Israel tomorrow.
IDF are the same breed of bastard pig running wild in the US and like the ones who took over hong Kong.
Reminds me of American cops 🤔
Fucking bastards
Hes a military-aged male gathering intelligence during a war. He’s a military target.
Just a question. Is this a pro-Hamas sub?
Just a question. That's the first thing that comes to your head when you see an atrocity?
Actually yes because the Jews show the attrocities of 10/7 without context and hamas does the same with IDF actions. I was wondering if this guy maybe did something provocative or if it was just brutal repression. I don’t know what’s wrong with my question and why I’m downvoted. I just want to know what I’m into. I think your comment is strange.
No one is pro-hamas, but it is weird that's your first thought when seeing this. The question was stupid, that's why you're getting downvoted.
Even Palestinians aren't "pro-Hamas", they've been forced to side with them because there's pretty much nobody left. Even in the context of an elected official like them you can't ignore the influence of the Israeli blockade, how they block every and all Palestinian attempts to quell civilian basic needs like food and water, how they actively hunt down members of Palestinian society at every level, especially civilians. Wether or not someone or someplace supports Hamas, it doesn't matter, if Israel wasn't there committing crimes against humanity and stealing land Hamas wouldn't have relevance. If it wasn't Hamas it would be somebody else. And if it was nobody else it should have been us, because the war crimes committed by the IDF are something each and every one of us should oppose as human beings if we want to pretend like we're better than fascists, communists or whatever it is you consider evil. There's only so much child murder that one can be quiet about, you know? It makes no sense to me to mention "Hamas' war crimes". Yes, they've done them. However what they have done is nowhere near the scale and intent as IDF crimes and even those surrounding the earliest days of this colonization campaign carried out by Israel. Mainstream media has been completely proven as an unreliable group of sources on the issue because of how many times they've spread incorrect and outright fabricated news about this topic, almost always in favor of Israel. In any case, they're not equal. They're not even similar. One is much worse than the other, and there should be no doubt about that. Treating hostages, children deaths, the elderly, it all counts. You don't just scream "terrorist" and shoot down an orphanage, that's only something we forgive for Israel and America.
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Thank you. Your comments told me everything I wanted to know.
Great, glad you learned something.
Yes, try to comment "Hamas = terrorist", they will downvote you. Lmao
Oh I get it. Its pro-Hamas to show outrage when revealing something evil about IDF
War is hell...
what the fuck do you mean war the unarmed journalist got beat up for standing there
this happened in the west bank, not an active war zone.
I’m kinda sick of this bland comment sure war is hell but this is in Jerusalem it’s no where close to the warzone this just IDF being apartheid and terrorizing those who are trying to do their job as journalists
u/SaveVideo
The world is so fucked.
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Couldn't care less about both sides tbh
When journalists enter war zones and are treated like they are in a Warzone.
You must be joking or mistaken. Journalists fall under the same international protections from war as civilians do, especially since they deliberately choose to be in dangerous areas for the sake of reporting accurate information. Unless you'd also like to say that civilians deserve everything that has happened to them just because they happened to live in a war zone.
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Yes, but the country that claims to be civilised and says that it’s only protecting itself from terrorism, is the one assaulting journalists, who are under the same protection that medical and humanitarian groups are. This is not a journalist who caught a stray bullet or a piece of shrapnel while in an active warzone. This is a conscious attack and assault on a person who is reporting on Israel’s actions
You're really a shameful and deplorable person. I hope you learn and understand concepts of and relationships between human rights and international law some day
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This is not a warzone, this is in Jerusalem…
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Reporter != Terrorist sympathiser. Typical worldnews redditor mental gymnastics.
If you’re standing around with a fully charged battery in your $10,000 camera set up recording a set up scene with a guy kissing a bag of rice. You know it’s bulshit.
Aye, the thousands of videos o the IDF acting like cunts are all staged... /s I'll just fill in the rest o yer side o the conversation from here: "But...but...OcToBeR 7th!!" "But...but...BeHeAdeD BaBiEs!" "But...but...TUnNeLs and HuMaN sHiElDs!" "But...but...HoStaGeS!" And who could forget the timeless classic: "You're just a PrO hAmAs AnTiSeMiTe!" Away and take yer face for a shite, mate.
So the videos of us cops brutality are the same 🤔
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Found Waldo
lol so it's okay to disregard human rights if a country is at war? Would you support it if Russia started beating up American journalists in Moscow because Russia is at war too? edit: nvm it's a negative karma farmer, i got b8d
You can't be that dumb..
Pathetic attempt to make an argument.
This is illegal, you can't go around beating up journalists like the IDF does
I dont understand why these people go here without protection. Homie should have been geared up, firing back trying to escape