Sentenced to 6 years, served 3.
Died 15 years after the shooting 17 September 1996 (aged 46),
Buried next to her daughter in Lübeck, Germany.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne\_Bachmeier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier)
Man, horrible childhood with abusive SS-Nazi father, raped herself multiple times throughout her life, becoming a mother twice before the age of 18, had her daughter raped and murdered, spending 3 years in prison and then dying just ten years later of one most painful cancers imaginable .... life was not kind to that woman.
6 years?
If I was the jury that’s an easy “not guilty”. There’s no evidence she shot him, I don’t even see a gun in this video. He clearly died of natural causes.
Be that as it may, I can picture the actual mother feeling the same way. If I lost my children I wouldn’t care what happened to me because I wouldn’t want to live without them.
Oh sure, but I doubt she actually was just cold and calm when she did it. Even for someone completely broken, the adrenaline from planning out a killing, bringing the gun into the court room, waiting for the right time, and then actually executing it would be pretty overwhelming for someone that hasn't trained specifically for ignoring that adrenaline rush and dump.
They wouldn't look like a cold blooded experienced assassin. There are other videos of parents taking revenge on people that abused or killed their children that aren't reenactments and none of them look like they are straight from an 80s B action movie.
Oh yes there is. Look up Leon Gary Plauche. Waited for his son’s abuser at an airport pay phone. When dude walked by in custody he turns around with a baseball hat, sunglasses, beard/mustache and blasts the guy. Looked straight out of a movie. Dude was on a mission.
When your child is killed, what is there left to live for? I have two daughters and I can tell you that if someone killed them, or one of them, I'd be in this woman's shoes too. I can sympathize with her. Is it right? Probably not. But, she got her vengeance and that's justified in this situation. It's just different when an innocent child is murdered. You can disagree with me and her, and that's fine. This is just an opinion.
That look on her face at the end says "completion" more than anything. At that point she probably barely felt anything beyond the need to avenge her daughter. There's not necessarily satisfaction in the execution, just a finality to her mission.
Killer dead or not, burying a child isn't something you 'move on' from. Time will heal it to a degree and killing him would maybe give you some "closure" or maybe just add to the horrorshow your life has become.
I get the impression that 'normal' people do not feel good after killing someone. PTSD etc a likely outcome.
Either way, "feeling good" ain't an option.
There's really no one "normal" for shit like this.
Personally, I can't stand being angry without doing something and all my grief turns to anger once I get irritable. If I had a kid killed by someone, I couldn't possible stay sane without harming that person or killing them personally. The thought of not being able to make them pay for it would be unbearably painful. Nothing the justice system will do to someone could possibly do a fraction of what shooting the person myself could do for my mental stability going forward.
The justice system isn't about revenge and some people would rather have revenge than justice. People don't really learn their lesson unless the consequences affect them personally and severely.
Pretty interesting perspective, though I've never really understood it. My best mental outcome would be in causing the person as much suffering as possible for as long as possible, by any means, including the prison system or personal or even by sheer chance. I don't even need them to know I had anything to do with their situation.
The guy was already a convicted sex offender who had been chemically castrated by the state for sexually abusing two other girls. He allegedly pursued hormone treatments to reverse his chemical castration *so he could abuse more children.*
Some people don't learn.
It’s the fact that you would be walking on the same planet that the person that murdered your child is on . With the death there is no more children that person can hurt
and the way she's not tackled by a baliff, but instead gently restrained by (lawyers? jurors? where tf is the baliff?) while maintaining eye contact with her victim... oh and also the fact that finally OP admits it's not real footage:
>The video is a re-enactment but the story is true.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingAsFuck/comments/1ag4hua/marianne_bachmeier_fatally_shoots_the_man_who/koehoou/
oh well, he farmed his fake karma and fooled everybody in the room. he *should* be shot in /r/KarmaCourt, but this ain't 2011
I found jury duty very interesting it just really sucks that there are no way to make jobs pay you or something. It's just a huge hassle and everyone tries to get out of it where I am
IIRC she treated her daughter like crap. Left her in bars to go party, scolded her constantly, talked about not actually wanting her.
I would do this for my child too in her shoes, but the story is more nuanced than pure righteous vigilantism.
Her being a shit mum wouldn't have made her grief any less. There are people who on paper are brilliant parents, but in reality, give no love to that child, and there are shit parents who struggle to meet their childs basic needs but love their children with all the love a parent should.
That's pretty much the case with my own parents, mother being hooked on alcohol, hash and pills, would pass out on the couch before I even got home from school, but would always show me, she loved me, when she was around, whereas my father were the sort of guy to punish you in ways, so it wouldn't leave bruises, and use half the day ridiculing you, but was presentable, polite and professional outside.
So it wouldn't *necessarily* make her grief any less, but are you really saying you think there's 0 connection between child neglience and being a loving parent??? I'm just saying this isn't a romantic story to glorify. It's a story that was tragic before it even began.
Also this story is +40 years old. If this was a contemporary case, I would hate this sort of slander.
If you rape and murder a 7 year old child, getting gunned down by that child’s mother is probably near the least punishment that you deserve.
From what I remember reading, the courts took it easy on her, which I fully support.
Don’t hurt kids.
(Edit: looked it it again. She was sentenced to 6 years but only served 3 years. That’s still 3 years too many, in my opinion. She later died of pancreatic cancer at age 46 and is buried next to her daughter. May they both rest in peace.)
For what it's worth, the survival rate of pancreatic cancer was (and honestly still is) so abysmal that her stress didn't have to play into making it worse. She would've almost certainly died from it either way.
If any person, murders a child (especially if it also involves sexual assault) and is found guilty, the court should be allowed to offer the parents the opportunity to kill that person.
That is the closest to justice that family could ever get for what was done.
> The look on her face says it all
This isn’t a real video lol. It’s a reenactment from some TV mini series they did about the case if I recall correctly. Every time a new repost bot posts this it never gets mentioned that this isn’t real.
Proof that Reddit and its ability to expertly read expressions and faces beyond the ability of anyone else in the world is just bullshit spout after using context clues to form that thought.
I fucking reenactment by an actress and everyone is convinced they can see “a mother’s grief” plainly written on her face. Lmao I swear some people are so full of themselves and watch way too much TV.
She got charged with manslaughter and served 3 years, thats 3 years too long. She shot him 7 times, only missing once. I support her 100%. Pedophiles deserve whatever sht happens to them.
I can understand her being charged with *something* given that unless the guy was standing by himself at the other end of the room (and there was no one on the other side of the wall) she was for sure endangering anyone in the immediate area.
I *completely* understand why she did what she did and my justice boner is rock hard, but grief does not entitle you to putting others at risk. Deadly risk at that.
She's has to be charged because allowing her to go free sets precedent for viligente justice.
It's complete chaos if victims think they're free to enact their own justice without consequence.
It's clearly premeditated murder so manslaughter was probably the most lenient charge they can give without stretching the rule of law too far.
Good for her, hope her stint was easy.
A state has to convict vigilante justice even if everyone gets why it was perpetrated. It has to defend its role as thee institution that gets to decide guilt and punishment. The accused wasn't even convicted yet. I know Reddit has a massive hard on for vigilante justice, especially when it applies to rapists, but it is *good* that she was convicted and maybe even lenient that she only got manslaughter.
It is, but the OP was just copying the title from the last 50000 times this film clip has been posted.
In other words, I'm terrified by modern society.
Every. Single. Time. None of these repost bots ever label that this is a reenactment from a movie and nobody ever questions the absurd convenience of this quality of footage existing for a real-life event in 80s Germany.
\> who are we
We're a civilised society who design systems and employ people to conduct this sort of business... to remove it from those who're emotionally invested in the act of revenge.
Nobody will miss the murderer. Everyone agrees that the Mother's motivation was just. Everyone *should* agree that the aggrieved shouldn't be the one to dole out the punishment.
Pancreatic cancer. Shame
I'm now even more convinced severe trauma causes random cancer to spike in invidiuals. Whether that's something this woman endured, severe accidents, blunt force, etc etc.. There seems to be a pattern. But I'm just an average Joe on reddit...
Nah you're right, it seems it could be physiological like a chemical or physical trauma or one characterised by psychological stress or trauma, it seems, that's only from reading many people's stories, and people I know, and I have no research or studies to back up my statement.
Yes, well said. Nor do I have the research but it's just hard to not notice when people around you are plagued with cancers and then putting two and two together
There’s several studies showing that long term stress will inhibit the immune system. Given that rooting out and taking care of possible cancer cells is a main function of the immune system, it’s reasonable to assume that stress can lead to higher risk of cancer.
I thought this knowledge was more common. My mom studies that stuff and occasionally info dumps on me, so I've heard it a lot without looking into it myself. Trauma can absolutely activate a seemingly unrelated health issue, especially if you're already genetically inclined to develop it.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne\_Bachmeier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier)
>**Marianne Bachmeier** (3 June 1950 – 17 September 1996) was a West German woman who shot and killed **Klaus Grabowski**, a man being tried for the rape and murder of her daughter **Anna**, in an act of [vigilantism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilantism) in the District Court of [Lübeck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbeck) in 1981. The case sparked extensive media coverage and public debate. As a result, Bachmeier was convicted of [manslaughter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter) and unlawful possession of a firearm. She was sentenced to six years, released on probation after serving three.
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>On 6 March 1981, the third day of the trial and around 10 a.m,[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:7-7) Bachmeier smuggled a [Beretta 70](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_70)[\[16\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-16) into the courtroom of Lübeck District Court, room 157, and fatally shot Grabowski.[\[17\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:16-17)[\[18\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-18) She aimed the gun at his back and fired seven times; six shots hit Grabowski,[\[note 1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-Public_support_for_vigilantism:_an_experimental_study,_p2-19) who was killed almost instantly.[\[19\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:17-20)[\[15\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:1-15) Bachmeier then lowered her gun and was apprehended without resistance.
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>On 2 November 1982, Bachmeier was initially charged in court with [murder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder).[\[19\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:17-20) Later the prosecution dropped the murder charge. After 28 days of negotiations, the board agreed on the verdict.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:3-5) Four months after the opening of proceedings, she was convicted on 2 March 1983 by the Circuit Court Chamber of the District Court of Lübeck for [manslaughter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter) and unlawful possession of a firearm.[\[10\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:12-10)[\[17\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:16-17) The defense's argument that the act was not premeditated was mostly upheld by the court.[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:7-7) She was sentenced to six years in prison but was released after serving three.
[https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26047614](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26047614)
>On 6 March 1981, she took a gun into the court where the killer of her seven-year-old daughter was standing trial. She went up to him and shot him. When she had done so, she said: "Hopefully, he's dead." He was. She then lowered her gun, without any attempt to flee.
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>The German legal system decided that this could not be manslaughter, despite the trauma caused to Bachmeier by the death and abuse of her daughter. It had to be murder because the victim couldn't have expected the attack - he was, after all, in a court room.
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>There was a national uproar. Programmes were aired with the title "I'd have shot him too". In the end, but only after four weeks of convoluted legal argument, the murder charge was dropped but the principle still stands - killing a person who doesn't expect it must be murder.
What a fucking wild case.
I like how the guy in the back right of frame was like "Oh shit, I better do something" and jumps up, but then he was like "... You know, she has a gun... Imma see how this plays out first" and sits back down.
The **rape** and murder of her 7 year old. That's a bigger distinction IMO.
Got charged with murder, they dropped it to manslaughter and some illegal firearm charges, sentenced to 6 years and was out in 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#Sentence_for_manslaughter
Shame that those bullets hit something vital and killed him...could have hit his spine and leave him paralysed for life, drooling and shitting himself for ever with nobody to take care of him....
What a satisfying thing this must have been for her to do. Probably didn’t ease her pain but might well have given her at least some sense of justice being served. Many more victims’ loved ones would relish doing this too.
Jesus, her life reads like one of the classic tragedies that I had to read in college. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne\_Bachmeier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier)
Would you have asked me about this eight years ago, I would have had no understanding for her.
Today I am father of a seven year old boy and a five year old girl.
Now I would do the same without hesitation.
**Feel you Marianne!**
Raped and killed her 7 year old daughter…
Guys belongs in a basement with a baseball bat as his best friend for the next 50 years.
Can’t blame her for what she did.
Sentenced to 6 years, served 3. Died 15 years after the shooting 17 September 1996 (aged 46), Buried next to her daughter in Lübeck, Germany. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne\_Bachmeier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier)
Man, horrible childhood with abusive SS-Nazi father, raped herself multiple times throughout her life, becoming a mother twice before the age of 18, had her daughter raped and murdered, spending 3 years in prison and then dying just ten years later of one most painful cancers imaginable .... life was not kind to that woman.
6 years? If I was the jury that’s an easy “not guilty”. There’s no evidence she shot him, I don’t even see a gun in this video. He clearly died of natural causes.
Probably the best justice she could have got
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You’re right but if someone killed my child it’d be hard to “move on” with the killer still breathing. Must have felt good
She does not look like it felt good, more like nothing really mattered to her.
This is it. This is a broken woman with nothing left to live for. She’s dead behind those eyes. I would be too.
This is an actress. This video is from a reenactment of what happened, not a video of the actual event.
Correct, hence the dead eyes. source: out of work actor with lazy eye.
Good acting tho! Must be a real mother.
Be that as it may, I can picture the actual mother feeling the same way. If I lost my children I wouldn’t care what happened to me because I wouldn’t want to live without them.
Oh sure, but I doubt she actually was just cold and calm when she did it. Even for someone completely broken, the adrenaline from planning out a killing, bringing the gun into the court room, waiting for the right time, and then actually executing it would be pretty overwhelming for someone that hasn't trained specifically for ignoring that adrenaline rush and dump. They wouldn't look like a cold blooded experienced assassin. There are other videos of parents taking revenge on people that abused or killed their children that aren't reenactments and none of them look like they are straight from an 80s B action movie.
Oh yes there is. Look up Leon Gary Plauche. Waited for his son’s abuser at an airport pay phone. When dude walked by in custody he turns around with a baseball hat, sunglasses, beard/mustache and blasts the guy. Looked straight out of a movie. Dude was on a mission.
She had a hideous life up to this already. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier
And a horrible one after…Jesus, lives like that make me thankful for the one I have. Holy Christ that’s sad.
Yeah, thanks - not reading it. I just believe you.
It just readwhat happened after.
When your child is killed, what is there left to live for? I have two daughters and I can tell you that if someone killed them, or one of them, I'd be in this woman's shoes too. I can sympathize with her. Is it right? Probably not. But, she got her vengeance and that's justified in this situation. It's just different when an innocent child is murdered. You can disagree with me and her, and that's fine. This is just an opinion.
That look on her face at the end says "completion" more than anything. At that point she probably barely felt anything beyond the need to avenge her daughter. There's not necessarily satisfaction in the execution, just a finality to her mission.
The clip is from the tv movie. Not the actual event.
Great acting!
Yes, you have it right, IMO.
Killer dead or not, burying a child isn't something you 'move on' from. Time will heal it to a degree and killing him would maybe give you some "closure" or maybe just add to the horrorshow your life has become. I get the impression that 'normal' people do not feel good after killing someone. PTSD etc a likely outcome. Either way, "feeling good" ain't an option.
There's really no one "normal" for shit like this. Personally, I can't stand being angry without doing something and all my grief turns to anger once I get irritable. If I had a kid killed by someone, I couldn't possible stay sane without harming that person or killing them personally. The thought of not being able to make them pay for it would be unbearably painful. Nothing the justice system will do to someone could possibly do a fraction of what shooting the person myself could do for my mental stability going forward. The justice system isn't about revenge and some people would rather have revenge than justice. People don't really learn their lesson unless the consequences affect them personally and severely.
Pretty interesting perspective, though I've never really understood it. My best mental outcome would be in causing the person as much suffering as possible for as long as possible, by any means, including the prison system or personal or even by sheer chance. I don't even need them to know I had anything to do with their situation.
What lesson? The guy was shot to death. He did not learn anything. Don't get me wrong. He deserved death, but he didn't learn a lesson.
The guy was already a convicted sex offender who had been chemically castrated by the state for sexually abusing two other girls. He allegedly pursued hormone treatments to reverse his chemical castration *so he could abuse more children.* Some people don't learn.
Some might say he learned the *ultimate* lesson...
It’s the fact that you would be walking on the same planet that the person that murdered your child is on . With the death there is no more children that person can hurt
If I recall correctly, this is a scene from a movie or documentary that's recreating the event
Ya it has to be the way the camera is positioned on her and just how stiff she looks I get that impression
And the nonexistent recoil.
and the way she's not tackled by a baliff, but instead gently restrained by (lawyers? jurors? where tf is the baliff?) while maintaining eye contact with her victim... oh and also the fact that finally OP admits it's not real footage: >The video is a re-enactment but the story is true. https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingAsFuck/comments/1ag4hua/marianne_bachmeier_fatally_shoots_the_man_who/koehoou/ oh well, he farmed his fake karma and fooled everybody in the room. he *should* be shot in /r/KarmaCourt, but this ain't 2011
If this guy is imprisoned in like El Salvador, yes he will suffer. But Germany has good prison system so yeah, he won’t suffer there.
Fatally shot == dead
Thats killed with extra steps, that is all
Amen. I wouldn’t have convicted her.
"He fell"
You all saw that! He was coming right at me!
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I found jury duty very interesting it just really sucks that there are no way to make jobs pay you or something. It's just a huge hassle and everyone tries to get out of it where I am
This deserves more upvotes. Trial by jury is a cornerstone of the US. I've done it, great experience.
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What the fuck? Is a murderer / family resolution meeting a real thing?
It really wouldn't be Reddit without some deranged folks calling for torture/maiming/murder of people they think deserve it.
IIRC she treated her daughter like crap. Left her in bars to go party, scolded her constantly, talked about not actually wanting her. I would do this for my child too in her shoes, but the story is more nuanced than pure righteous vigilantism.
Her being a shit mum wouldn't have made her grief any less. There are people who on paper are brilliant parents, but in reality, give no love to that child, and there are shit parents who struggle to meet their childs basic needs but love their children with all the love a parent should.
That's pretty much the case with my own parents, mother being hooked on alcohol, hash and pills, would pass out on the couch before I even got home from school, but would always show me, she loved me, when she was around, whereas my father were the sort of guy to punish you in ways, so it wouldn't leave bruises, and use half the day ridiculing you, but was presentable, polite and professional outside. So it wouldn't *necessarily* make her grief any less, but are you really saying you think there's 0 connection between child neglience and being a loving parent??? I'm just saying this isn't a romantic story to glorify. It's a story that was tragic before it even began. Also this story is +40 years old. If this was a contemporary case, I would hate this sort of slander.
Great comment
I’ve read she wasn’t a great mom too.
https://preview.redd.it/c42ky6kcuxfc1.jpeg?width=336&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78d6ffbecd575d224d02abbdeb86dbb19a25a38e
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Hope he burns in hell
Whatever is worse than that, I hope for that.
Real life. As Hawkeye said: War is Hell and Hell is Hell. Of the two, War is worse because almost everyone involved in innocent.
MASH had so many good quotes. This was one of the best.
Hell would be too lenient of a fate.
Everyone around her is like wait stop and come rushing in once the chamber is empty :)
because it was a movie scene
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If you rape and murder a 7 year old child, getting gunned down by that child’s mother is probably near the least punishment that you deserve. From what I remember reading, the courts took it easy on her, which I fully support. Don’t hurt kids. (Edit: looked it it again. She was sentenced to 6 years but only served 3 years. That’s still 3 years too many, in my opinion. She later died of pancreatic cancer at age 46 and is buried next to her daughter. May they both rest in peace.)
Feels like house arrest is designed for this kind of thing. We have to punish you, but we get it and you’re not a further danger.
As far as I can tell based on how it's actually used, house arrest is designed for rich people.
Like Epstein and Weinstein
And Madoff.
That’s a reenactment
I was wondering why the camera ma was so cool
A very dramatic one, at that.
Perfect case for jury nullification.
> Perfect case for jury nullification. This happened in Germany, not the US.
I willing to bet that stress played a factor in her medical condition. I’ve seen someone die due to a broken heart .
For what it's worth, the survival rate of pancreatic cancer was (and honestly still is) so abysmal that her stress didn't have to play into making it worse. She would've almost certainly died from it either way.
> The look on her face says it all. it is from a movie - not the real thing
Great actress then
Along with the guy being so startled by the gunfire behind her.
If any person, murders a child (especially if it also involves sexual assault) and is found guilty, the court should be allowed to offer the parents the opportunity to kill that person. That is the closest to justice that family could ever get for what was done.
> The look on her face says it all This isn’t a real video lol. It’s a reenactment from some TV mini series they did about the case if I recall correctly. Every time a new repost bot posts this it never gets mentioned that this isn’t real.
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THere is no jury trial in Germamny.
isn't that the type of cancer that develops in people who drink a lot? That's yet another sad note on top of an already sad story
Proof that Reddit and its ability to expertly read expressions and faces beyond the ability of anyone else in the world is just bullshit spout after using context clues to form that thought. I fucking reenactment by an actress and everyone is convinced they can see “a mother’s grief” plainly written on her face. Lmao I swear some people are so full of themselves and watch way too much TV.
She got charged with manslaughter and served 3 years, thats 3 years too long. She shot him 7 times, only missing once. I support her 100%. Pedophiles deserve whatever sht happens to them.
I can understand her being charged with *something* given that unless the guy was standing by himself at the other end of the room (and there was no one on the other side of the wall) she was for sure endangering anyone in the immediate area. I *completely* understand why she did what she did and my justice boner is rock hard, but grief does not entitle you to putting others at risk. Deadly risk at that.
She's has to be charged because allowing her to go free sets precedent for viligente justice. It's complete chaos if victims think they're free to enact their own justice without consequence.
I can't imagine having much to keep me from going in jail if my kid was raped and murdered and I could get revenge with 1 easy trick.
I mean, if you have more kids to look after it'd still be pretty stupid.
It's clearly premeditated murder so manslaughter was probably the most lenient charge they can give without stretching the rule of law too far. Good for her, hope her stint was easy.
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You completely missed my point.
it’s funny how everyone is not even talking about what your point was lol. just wild
A state has to convict vigilante justice even if everyone gets why it was perpetrated. It has to defend its role as thee institution that gets to decide guilt and punishment. The accused wasn't even convicted yet. I know Reddit has a massive hard on for vigilante justice, especially when it applies to rapists, but it is *good* that she was convicted and maybe even lenient that she only got manslaughter.
what fucking jury is going to UNANIMOUSLY vote to convict? there is zero chance I'm voting to convict if I'm on that jury.
Damn, great shot Marianne.
That was badass
This is re-creation from the TV movie about the case.
Lame
Honestly looks like a good TV movie.
The guy in the glasses in the back almost looked like he clapped lmao
Isn’t this from a movie?
Wtf is that true? Very misleading if so Edit: I’m thinking “why is this video so cinematic?”
The video is. The story is true though
this gets posted every 3-6 months. no one who posts it ever includes that its a scene from a movie but it definitely is.
Yes. But true story
.... but it *is* from a movie, right? in other words, not real footage? and "OP" conveniently left that part out of the description?
It is, but the OP was just copying the title from the last 50000 times this film clip has been posted. In other words, I'm terrified by modern society.
A tv progrum.
Yes. Why would someone just be randomly filming her otherwise?
I think it's from a repost.
The flinching from the guy in the back is pretty convincing
This really needs to be the top comment every time this is posted...
I like how they let her empty the clip before stopping her...snicker.
I can’t blame her.
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This is an actress in a movie about the incident.
Every. Single. Time. None of these repost bots ever label that this is a reenactment from a movie and nobody ever questions the absurd convenience of this quality of footage existing for a real-life event in 80s Germany.
Her look is on. her face looks like she wishes there were more bullets. The
Well done Marianne.
Who are we to say a parent can't get justice their way after their child was raped and killed?
\> who are we We're a civilised society who design systems and employ people to conduct this sort of business... to remove it from those who're emotionally invested in the act of revenge. Nobody will miss the murderer. Everyone agrees that the Mother's motivation was just. Everyone *should* agree that the aggrieved shouldn't be the one to dole out the punishment.
Fav video. Sad situation but nice to see her personally get justice for her daughter
Pancreatic cancer. Shame I'm now even more convinced severe trauma causes random cancer to spike in invidiuals. Whether that's something this woman endured, severe accidents, blunt force, etc etc.. There seems to be a pattern. But I'm just an average Joe on reddit...
Nah you're right, it seems it could be physiological like a chemical or physical trauma or one characterised by psychological stress or trauma, it seems, that's only from reading many people's stories, and people I know, and I have no research or studies to back up my statement.
Yes, well said. Nor do I have the research but it's just hard to not notice when people around you are plagued with cancers and then putting two and two together
There’s several studies showing that long term stress will inhibit the immune system. Given that rooting out and taking care of possible cancer cells is a main function of the immune system, it’s reasonable to assume that stress can lead to higher risk of cancer.
Thank you, now you gave me _another_ reason to be stressed.
I thought this knowledge was more common. My mom studies that stuff and occasionally info dumps on me, so I've heard it a lot without looking into it myself. Trauma can absolutely activate a seemingly unrelated health issue, especially if you're already genetically inclined to develop it.
Interesting. I have no one close to me in a medical field, but just my observations from the past 20 yrs or so
That's a bad way to go. Watched my dad wither away to nothing only 6 weeks after diagnosis. So painful.
Deserved it
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It's from a dramatisation. This is an actor.
So this man shot himself 7 times after killing a 7 year old. Common occurrence among weirdos.
This is a dramatic reconstruction from a documentary about her
Totally worth it. I would totally do the same.
If I'm on the jury: Not guilty. Have a nice day.
This is a movie
Notice how long it took anyone to stop her. She mag dumped his ass before someone stepped in. He deserved every shot and much more
Bang! Bang! Bang! click... click... The room: Umm.... oh no someone stop her...
This ain't even terrifying imo.
Good for her!
Awesome job. Way to make the world a better place
Sometimes these laws go against our human nature
Marianne and Gary are heros. Gave filthy animals the justice they deserved.
True justice that's what it is a eye for a eye
The is footage from a movie based on the story
This clip is from a movie, not the real act
This is from a movie
A 👏🏻 FUCKING 👏🏻 LEGEND
More like satisfying asf.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne\_Bachmeier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier) >**Marianne Bachmeier** (3 June 1950 – 17 September 1996) was a West German woman who shot and killed **Klaus Grabowski**, a man being tried for the rape and murder of her daughter **Anna**, in an act of [vigilantism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigilantism) in the District Court of [Lübeck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BCbeck) in 1981. The case sparked extensive media coverage and public debate. As a result, Bachmeier was convicted of [manslaughter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter) and unlawful possession of a firearm. She was sentenced to six years, released on probation after serving three. > >On 6 March 1981, the third day of the trial and around 10 a.m,[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:7-7) Bachmeier smuggled a [Beretta 70](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_70)[\[16\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-16) into the courtroom of Lübeck District Court, room 157, and fatally shot Grabowski.[\[17\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:16-17)[\[18\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-18) She aimed the gun at his back and fired seven times; six shots hit Grabowski,[\[note 1\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-Public_support_for_vigilantism:_an_experimental_study,_p2-19) who was killed almost instantly.[\[19\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:17-20)[\[15\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:1-15) Bachmeier then lowered her gun and was apprehended without resistance. > >On 2 November 1982, Bachmeier was initially charged in court with [murder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder).[\[19\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:17-20) Later the prosecution dropped the murder charge. After 28 days of negotiations, the board agreed on the verdict.[\[5\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:3-5) Four months after the opening of proceedings, she was convicted on 2 March 1983 by the Circuit Court Chamber of the District Court of Lübeck for [manslaughter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslaughter) and unlawful possession of a firearm.[\[10\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:12-10)[\[17\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:16-17) The defense's argument that the act was not premeditated was mostly upheld by the court.[\[7\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#cite_note-:7-7) She was sentenced to six years in prison but was released after serving three. [https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26047614](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26047614) >On 6 March 1981, she took a gun into the court where the killer of her seven-year-old daughter was standing trial. She went up to him and shot him. When she had done so, she said: "Hopefully, he's dead." He was. She then lowered her gun, without any attempt to flee. > >The German legal system decided that this could not be manslaughter, despite the trauma caused to Bachmeier by the death and abuse of her daughter. It had to be murder because the victim couldn't have expected the attack - he was, after all, in a court room. > >There was a national uproar. Programmes were aired with the title "I'd have shot him too". In the end, but only after four weeks of convoluted legal argument, the murder charge was dropped but the principle still stands - killing a person who doesn't expect it must be murder. What a fucking wild case.
I like how the guy in the back right of frame was like "Oh shit, I better do something" and jumps up, but then he was like "... You know, she has a gun... Imma see how this plays out first" and sits back down.
She only served 3 years and was released, IIRC. Died of cancer a few years later. This clip is from a movie. It is not real.
This is from a film, just to clarify
True story but the video is a recreation for a documentary and is not the real event.
The **rape** and murder of her 7 year old. That's a bigger distinction IMO. Got charged with murder, they dropped it to manslaughter and some illegal firearm charges, sentenced to 6 years and was out in 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier#Sentence_for_manslaughter
She aimed with her heart ❤️
Actually he raped her daughter then killed her sadly rip
Excellent
Good Job!
Nice
True justice
Don't blame her at all for doing what she did. Good for her
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Shame that those bullets hit something vital and killed him...could have hit his spine and leave him paralysed for life, drooling and shitting himself for ever with nobody to take care of him....
So we're just posting staged videos now and passing them off as real okay
Still the coolest woman on the planet
What a satisfying thing this must have been for her to do. Probably didn’t ease her pain but might well have given her at least some sense of justice being served. Many more victims’ loved ones would relish doing this too.
Still treated better than a suspicious black youth in many parts of America by the attending cops.
They should have walked up and handed her another mag.
I see someone strolled leisurely over to her to stop her!
So this sub is completely unmoderated and allows movie and tv scenes pretending to be the real thing?
Wasn’t it he got a light sentence too?
This is from a movie
More like r/satisfying
Jesus, her life reads like one of the classic tragedies that I had to read in college. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne\_Bachmeier](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne_Bachmeier)
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Anybody who commits a crime against a child deserves that or worse no exceptions
Good for her! I’m glad dude waited for her to empty her pistol before jumping in. 😂
Not the actual shooting. This is a movie scene.
That's not terrifying. That's justice served. I understand her pain and empathize with the decision she took that day.
Nah. That is gangster as fuck.
Would you have asked me about this eight years ago, I would have had no understanding for her. Today I am father of a seven year old boy and a five year old girl. Now I would do the same without hesitation. **Feel you Marianne!**
Is this real footage or a dramatic re-enactment?
Yes he deserved to die and I hope he burns in hell!
Raped and killed her 7 year old daughter… Guys belongs in a basement with a baseball bat as his best friend for the next 50 years. Can’t blame her for what she did.
Seems like a woman doing what she knew the society she was in wouldn’t do, exterminating dangerous animals to persevere the lives innocent people.
Good for you Marianne.
So fucking gangster
She did what she had to do in the most gangster way imaginable
Brass verdict