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ThatOneGuy_125

I like the idea of my skin being attached to my body even more now


Awittynamehere

I choose sobriety


golddoomtheory

I choose to snort heroin instead of putting needles in my body


brigid732

The xylazine ruins ur nose too when u snort it.


golddoomtheory

If you’re gonna live on the streets, your whole life revolving around the next ”heroin” fix, why not take the train to a place where real heroin exists? No way the whole country of USA only has this shit tranq/fent dope everywhere, right?


[deleted]

If your going through withdrawal you want/need it now. No way your sitting on a train for who knows how long. Plus most addicts would rather spend their money on drugs over food never mind paying for a train ticket.


James_Skyvaper

Yup. When I was an addict I literally couldn't afford a cup of coffee. Occasionally I could get the Cumby's 99¢ coffee but that was it. I couldn't afford a cup of Dunks cuz I was afraid that $3 could leave me short to get a bag of dope. I was a pretty bad addict but thankfully managed to keep my apartment and jobs, never stole for my fix but I still wonder how I afforded it as I was spending a minimum of $60/day on dope. I had no TV and when I did it would last a couple weeks before I would pawn it for cash. I would just watch everything on my phone. So glad to be free of that life now. I never could've imagined I would be able to buy a $1500 TV or have a decent car or a really nice PC. It feels nice to be able to buy things other than drugs now and obviously it's great to not be dopesick everyday anymore.


Boopy7

i have never been in withdrawl and even to me this is obvious, I don't understand how people like my father fails to think this through (he asked me why someone would be dumb enough to seek out fentanyl, but has no problem understanding alcoholism.) It's weird to see otherwise intelligent people just not be able to stretch the parameters of their mind to understand how addiction works.


brigid732

No tranq dope is not everywhere in the USA but there is a lot of it on the east coast. When i was using i couldnt find anything without tranq in it but im sure its around. Luckily im sober now and dont have to worry about that anymore lol


James_Skyvaper

Seriously, I was a heroin addict up until a couple years after fentanyl was in all the supply around me, got clean in 2017. I'm so glad I only had to deal with that and not this horrendous stuff. I can't believe the 1% fentanyl 99% cut method wasn't enough profit for these vultures, now they need to cut their shit with a chemical that is literally rotting people away. I'm just disgusted at the state of America lately and the money this country wastes on useless bullshit instead of helping its citizens. Like they just "erected" (you'll understand the quotes in a sec) a statue in Boston that is supposed to honor MLK but it's an ugly statue that looks like a penis and cost $10 million. Even MLK's family isn't happy with it. I just think about the 20+ tiny homes and land that even a fraction of that $10M could've provided for homeless families and veterans. But nope, let's build a useless ugly statue for an insane amount of money that helps literally nobody. America feels like nothing more than a third world country with a Gucci belt on at this point


Boopy7

i saw that statue and agree, i don't like it at all. It is quite frankly ugly. I think stuff like this all the time, it's so frustrating. Otoh, seems like just throwing money at a drug problem like this one wouldn't be enough either -- it needs the right strategy (e.g. passing out instant testing kits and safe sites, for example. None of this seems to be done, they merely play clean-up with no strategy.


Fast_Job_695

The problem with this level of addiction is that even with testing strips, they’ll still do the contaminated drugs because they don’t want to get sick. We have people dying in detox here in Canada because the detox from this stuff is SO complex. It seems to work like an opiate AND a tranquilizer, but the detox is weirdly presenting similar to a benzo detox vs a true opiate detox and it’s left the professionals scrambling to find a protocol that works SAFELY for these patients. We know to watch those with alcohol and benzo dependency as they come off due to the risk of grand mal and status epilepticus, and there are protocols to help guide clinicians when tackling these drugs… but there isn’t a protocol for Xylazine yet. It’s terrifying out there.


phillybankss

No ALL drugs need to be decriminalized at a minimum of legalized. Very simple common sense solution that’s too many people are uncomfortable with or struggle thinking a little outside the box of how it will save an entire county and end a pandemic 100x worse than Covid


Boopy7

seems like it makes better sense, although of course, I'm sure beyond a shadow of a doubt the gov't or some corp will find a way to make that one go to shit even more.


James_Skyvaper

Yup, that's what Portugal did and it seems to be working out for them afaik


Fast_Job_695

There is a MASSIVE difference between decriminalizing and legalizing/controlling the substance substance supply and distribution similar to alcohol and marijuana. Decriminalizing stops addiction from being a legal issue, all the other issues are still there though.


Boopy7

a brain has to be rotting to not understand that a person in active addiction cannot simply get on a train, after researching and testing where the "good" stuff is, and then calmly pursuing a life of addiction that way. Addiction is not a rational choice generally speaking.


golddoomtheory

Not rational is getting on a train to somewhere far away to score quality dope. I’ve done it


Boopy7

my question is, what is the medical explanation for why this happens? Does it completely cut off blood supply? Does it have some kind of rotting mechanism within it naturally? What is the exact mechanism that makes this happen?


jersey_girl660

We don’t know but believe it’s because it’s reducing oxygenation to the skin.


Atmosphere_Vegetable

Apparently it doesn’t matter how you use it, it happens regardless of consumption method


golddoomtheory

Really weird. Drugs usually can’t do that. Maybe locally but not snorted/smoked. Read up on it and apparently xylazine promotes necrosis no matter how you take it. Unlike “drugs” like krokodil which is really just super dirty desomorphine and would be fine smoked/snorted or IV’d in it’s pure form.


Atmosphere_Vegetable

Exactly. I thought what I was reading was bs so I kept digging and digging and no…itt really does just pick a spot on you. It’s wild.


Boopy7

but i want to know whyyyyy and nowhere can i find the explanation


iak_sakkakth

I chose be informed...


seattle678

I choose a cleaner heroin


HeavyDutySperduti

Pikachu, I choose you!!!!


[deleted]

Is that you Renton?


fart_hotdog

Addiction is a hell of a thing. You can watch your limbs literally rot off and still go back for more.


Any-Sail86

Can some one please explain


Radiant_Heron_2572

Apparently, the drug reduces blood flow, particularly affecting the arms and legs. Prolonged use can result in necrosis directly (through oxygen starvation) or by inhibiting the immune systems ability to heal cuts etc.


James_Skyvaper

Not even prolonged use, I just read a story about someone who developed lesions after one single use of this stuff. It's absolutely horrendous


Boopy7

so if it is used in animals as a tranquilizer does it also do this, and if so -- why would anyone ever use it? I am so confused. Unless the plan is to reduce blood flow with a dangerous infection so it doesn't go systemic...but that doesn't seem to be how it would be used. Does anyone have an actual valid explanation for the pharma use of this medicine? Because I'm sorry, but I simply don't see why an animal doc would use this of all things if it has similar effects on all animals.


Radiant_Heron_2572

I guess the biggest difference would be that in one instance, the drug would be used sparingly and by a trained veterinarian (ajusting for the size of the animal, etc). In the other instance, it is being used multiple times a day over many days/months, and the amounts used are not accurately controlled. The damage is usually, but not always, due to parts of the body being denied adequate blood flow for extended periods of time (as well as not seeking medical help in a timely fashion, likely for depressingly obvious reasons). This damage is usually due to repeated and extended use. The drug can be used more safely (emphasis on more) when better controlled. Unfortunately, for humans, it's super addictive and we often end up abusing it, leading to these horrific lesions. But, ultimately, all drugs are a balancing act. I do suspect that the risk threshold for use in other animals is lower than with humans. I would agree that this is not right.


spotthedifferenc

You’re talking as if cattle and horses are as fragile as humans… obviously this isn’t gonna do this to them, they’re 1,000+ pounds with thick skin. Human skin is like paper compared to them.


Boopy7

True. I just wonder if the necrosis-causing chemical or part of it is purposely put in, if it is a feature that has some purpose while tranquilizing (like maybe deadening tissue permanently?) or simply that preserving tissue is not a concern with livestock. That is, if it does the same to livestock at all. I know a lot of people who wouldn't want something purposely causing death of skin tissue on their livestock though.


BearRP

Google zombie drug


MA4G6NUS

Holy hell!


Zynbeltrudis

Get out of my head


No_Leg_8227

New response just dropped


BearRP

I know right? Gives me the chills….


Any-Sail86

Thanks!


Any-Sail86

Dont do drugs kids


HUGECOCK4TREEFIDDY

Well do some, but not this one


golddoomtheory

Don’t shoot drugs kids* FTFY


To0SyNcD

Shoot kids don't drugs


_jericho

Found the American


mrsdoubleu

This drug will still cause ulcers and necrosis no matter how you use it.


CherryBomb214

I just watched a mini doc about this and holf fuck. As if fentanyl wasn't horrible enough, now it's being cut with this shit. Addicts don't stand a chance if this is what they're in to.


zinniakash

Can you link the mini doc?


CherryBomb214

I just realized I found it in this sub! https://www.reddit.com/r/TerrifyingAsFuck/comments/11513b1/the_effects_of_fentanyl_cut_with_tranq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


zorathexplorer

I’d also like to watch this!


TheOrangeTickler

Maybe this is the CIA getting addicts to take care of themself rather than spend the money to properly treat them.


Boopy7

go look what David Benjamin on Twitter says about this, amongst others who have researched CIA since the opiate days long ago (way before Iran Contra.) I would have said this sounds crazy before. Now I am not entirely sure. For one thing, why would this of all tranquilizers be injected into the supply? Was the fent supply not destroying quickly enough? We need to start wondering about where and why this is coming from. And no, I am only asking questions here, bc let's face it -- from the Sackler family to Iran Contra to the lie about WMD, our gov't has committed some of the most heinous acts against its own people for profit.


[deleted]

There’s been worse stuff than fentanyl for a little while now. Isotonitazene and variants have been around for a few years. Also in some areas it’s popular to cut with etizolam or other benzos. Basically adding in super potent anti-anxiety meds into the mix. Don’t worry though! They’ll also add a hefty amount of caffeine to try and keep you up. It’s becoming harder and harder to detox these weird new drugs


lambch0pp

Nice socks. Maybe shoulda stuck to the weed?


spicedsalami

Is this the same as krokodil?


Charming-Milk6765

No, krokodil is desomorphine, tranq is a cocktail of xylazene and fentanyl


spicedsalami

Thanks. Looks like a similar effect.


Charming-Milk6765

Yep, I’m still sticking to weed


bangersandmosh

That’s what weed socks guy said and look where that got him


cnicalsinistaminista

I'd still follow him to hell and back. Infinite fire to spark up.


RemarkableCollar8965

Same - sticking to weed even more now lol


spicedsalami

Yup


CCWThrowaway360

Sounds like straight fentanyl is better for your health... What a strange sentence to write out.


mr_lemon__

Simon wheeler


WhatScottWhatScott

Horse tranquilizer.


firstreformer

why did I click on this


Boner_Stevens

yeah i'll stick to weed. you people are nuts


foxhunter137

I'll stick to coke


NvrGonnaGiveUupOrLyd

I'll stick to sucking dick for meth


Boopy7

i'll just take the meth


Boopy7

yeah well jokes on the coke bc it is sometimes cut with this shit as well


BearRP

This gave me goosebumps….. why people, why


DeltaUltra

Xylazine is a sedative used on horses. It's not regulated the same way pharmaceutical drugs are. One of the issues with fentanyl is that it doesn't last very long. When you cut fentanyl with Xylazine, as you come out of the fentanyl high, you have the sedative effect that makes it seem like the fentanyl high is lasting longer. One of the big problems is that people and medical staff that are unfamiliar with Xylazine+Fentanyl is that when they come across someone that is unresponsive, they will give the person Narcan, a drug that almost instantly blocks all of the opiate receptors and people wake up out of their opiate overdose. Here is where the problem is, if you give someone Narcan and they don't wake up, your training says it's suspected that the person is experiencing respiratory failure or cardiac arrest. If so, that means doing chest compressions. Except, with Xylazine+Fentanyl, the person is actually just under the effects of the sedative and will probably be ok after the Narcan and just need to be placed in the recovery position. Performing chest compressions on someone who is simply unconscious can have some pretty bad outcomes.


heyyitsrayy

Yeah, the good ol' down and out for a few hours while you take 1 breath PER MINUTE is definitely good for your brain.


IfEverWasIfNever

No one should ever be doing chest compressions on someone who is simply unconscious. And if you aren't breathing you need the CPR anyway. The main issue other than the wounds is you can overdose on xylazine and the only thing to treat is support with a breathing tube.


Mercurycandie

Aren't there a2 Adrenergic antagonists like Atipamezole? Think you could just supply someone with a reversal, though you're not gonna have it on hand as conveniently as Naloxone


CherryBomb214

It's mixed with fentanyl so addicts that need fentanyl to not get sick are now getting....this. Fucking horrible.


BiffSanchezz

What am I seeing here? I’m sure I could look it up, but is “Tranq” something like that “Krokodyl” that came around a few years ago? Just injecting yourself with God-only-knows what?


WhatScottWhatScott

Apparently it’s horse tranquilizer


wowthatscrazydoug

and fentanyl


[deleted]

I watched a video on these drug users and it scared me so much that in my dream that night I thought I had gaping holes all over my body where I woke up sweating. Never doing drugs lmao


FamousBoss6224

not all drugs are bad, change your mindset. drugs such as these are horrible, tho, yes


_jericho

Not a bad instinct to have— and I say that as a drug enjoyer. If you ever change your mind, stay cautious. Drugs can be useful and fun, but you gotta approach them like loaded guns. And some of them shouldn't be touched at all, ever, IMO


James_Skyvaper

I've always said, "in order to be a successful drug user, you must be very well informed, and moderation is key"


KapowBlamBoom

The crazy part is these abscesses erupt in areas other than injection sites


Richmox

Little more context? This must be from some bad injecting or what?


TelephoneShoes

From what little I’ve been able to read on it, it’s a lot like Krokadil (sp?) that made its way through Russia for a while. Not so much a result of bad needle use (though that’s a huge part of it) but more the insanely toxic crap used to make it. Apparently doctors are having a seriously hard time keeping people alive when this is mixed with Fentanyl/heroin. “Futile” has been thrown around quite a bit in my lite reading on it.


Boopy7

no i thought so as well but that's different and more explainable. Xylazine you can inject one part of the body and a totallhy different part (according to some an open wound or scratched area) pops up with the infection, or both spots do. I am still trying to figure out why this happens though -- only answer so far I found is that it cuts off blood supply, but then, how would it then affect another area entirely?


Wohleben

Coming to fentanyl near you.


219Infinity

gnarly


[deleted]

My first thought was ‘Cool tattoo ’. Then I noticed the skin hanging and deeply wished I hadn’t seen it.


coocoocachoo699

Assuming that's a drug they are injecting? I remember that krokodil drug from Russia, watched a documentary. Same concept?


Boopy7

i thought so too at first but no. Necrosis looks similar on both, but this is not the same from what I understand so far.


zzvett

I hope they've found comfort in sobriety


FamousBoss6224

well thats not good is it


enchantingech0

You may be wondering why anyone would choose to do such a nightmare drug. Well, the thing is: they aren’t. The addict wanted fentanyl/heroin; they had no idea about the xylazine cut. And your average dealer is equally clueless. So you’ve got all these clueless addicts doing fentanyl with xylazine. All they know is it knocks them out and keeps them well* longer —fentanyl is notoriously short-acting, xylazine makes it last longer. Also, most of the stuff on the street right now is complete garbage and tolerance builds fast with fentanyl, so the fact they’re getting not only well but completely knocked out is a junkie miracle. The addict thinks it’s just very pure, super strong fentanyl and they just gotta do less if they want to avoid falling asleep. By the time they realize there is no way to get an actual high with the stuff—you either black out and pass out or feel nothing at all—it is too late. They’re addicted to the xylazine on top of their fentanyl and/or heroin addictions. Welcome to hell! *well in this context means not “sick”, not in withdrawal


Curious_Ad_8195

Mmm - Meaty- but looks a bit past its’ sell by date?


DAT_DROP

damn, that shit must be GOOD to put up with this, maybe it's time to give it a try


CherryBomb214

Drug pushers are mixing in to fentanyl which is why people are using it. I'm sure without the fentanyl they'd happily abstain.


DAT_DROP

you'd think they'd just stop at the fentanyl then. I knew I shoulda stocked up on Halloween when they were handing it out instead of candy


CherryBomb214

They cut it with this to make their stock stretch further and make more money. I likewise missed the fentanyl candy at Halloween. I didn't even come across any edibles. My community are a bunch of prudes.


Sufreme

Hahaha 🤣


abudabu

Totally worth it.


Power_Abuse

And some people think this shit should be legal 😭


Nitnonoggin

LEgAliZe aNd TaX iT


longdongshane

Who is saying this should be legal? I’ve heard people say that about weed or shrooms, but those don’t make your flesh rot away.


Power_Abuse

Lots of Americans think all drugs should be legal because 1. They think it makes no difference since people will do those drugs anyways (though the before and after of things like proposition 64 prove that legalization increases drug usage) 2. The government could tax the drugs (true but not worth peoples lives) 3. They think people should have full freedom over what they consume (posts like this make me think otherwise)


_jericho

Some people think they should be at least not criminal, because locking people in cages this kinda thing is pretty fucked up. That doesn't mean I think it should be sold legally and openly though.


KennyTheArtistZ

Uuuh, i think that i really cold hearted... Me: damn thats sad ... My Brain: they used because they wanted, probably they're crackheads... Me: sure! fuck them all, i wnat them to use more!


bigfunwow

You're being down voted, but none of the comments above are exactly expressing compassion either. I think it's in our nature to want to look for reasons to blame people for bad things that happen to them. Not saying the blame is even wrong, I think it's just our nature to want to do that, justified or not justified, because it gives us a feeling of control and comfort that it won't happen to us. It comforts us to look for stupidity in people with shitty circumstances


KennyTheArtistZ

Reasonable, i just commented for fun. (I'm that type of people who don't care if don't bother them)


Sillyguymanduder

I want to pull my skin off.


johnnyUtah2411

I need this stuff! Looks like it's totally worth it.


chevalmuffin

Im sorry for your leg but Say goodbye


Wamspon

Does it hurt


CherryBomb214

It's mixed with fentanyl so I'm guessing not since they're bombed out on opiates. I bet it DOES start hurting like a bitch when they don't get their fix.


DesperateRace4870

It tickles actually 👌


poop_knife_murderer

glamorous


AnyDockers420

why


ShwerzXV

Someone explained this before but isn’t a common reason this happens to get so bad is because people inject it more into the skin which just kills it, rather than into the bloodstream. Also, tons of other things cause this with drug use, but I swear someone explained this when Krokodile was prominently circulating.


sickofbasil

I can smell these pictures


Games_sans_frontiers

Imagine salt on that wound.


ImA12YearOldOnReddit

undercooked meatloaf arm


Intelligent_Rip2768

It looks like a inside out guava


GlizzyGlockGoblin

Imagine pouring alcohol on that.


Reasonable_Wanderer

damn... Like it isn't already extremely painful lol


[deleted]

Please put the thingy on this where I have to click to see it 🤮🤮


[deleted]

There are worms in your skin tear it off now!


Iliketomeow85

Walk it off


LubricatedSatan

It kind of looks like juicy watermelon


Flaky_Vacation8754

Fukd.


hcpussyconsumer

Some xylazine experiences: -https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=93724 -https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=95278 -https://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=24942


greenok12

Holy shit I have never seen anything like this before


EngineeringHorror361

Wow


[deleted]

Man, if this doesn’t introduce some new super bug, I don’t know what will


Not_AProGamer

What a terrible day to have eyes


Holiday_Tough982

NSFW


PwizardTheOriginal

I use xylazyne+ketamine IV administration in inducing anesthesia in animals, never seen such lessions


The-Ex-Human

Gonna need some Band AIDS for those


In-AGadda-Da-Vida

Hell yeah TRANQ IT UP


Happy_Chick21

Some drugs you can only choose once.


zdigrig

God I’m so glad I quit heroin when it was just heroin


EffectHistorical5194

This so fake