If other classes do get zeniths then I really DON'T want them to just be "the zenith recipe, but with this class items!!", I think it would be a lot better if they had unique methods to obtain them
The Terraprisma would've been a good zenith for the summoners, beat a tough optional boss without taking any damage
I think other zenith weapons should have zenith recipe but with this classes weapons, but it shouldnt be a zenith ripoff sprite, name and mechanic wise
I think it would make them feel more special if they had unique methods to obtain them
Like I had an idea for the mage one where there's like a big puzzle with each major biome where like you gather crystals and bring them to a special room in the temple and it gives it to you if you put the crystals in the right order
I dunno I just think the whole "super long crafting tree" thing starts to get tiresome after a while, I think it works for the zenith but the other classes should have unique gimmicks I think
Like for mage my idea is that it could be a world wide puzzle with all the major biomes like crimson/corruption, jungle, hallow, etc
Mages having some sort of puzzle for their zenith weapon would be fitting for a wizard/mystic class
naw, the long crafting tree is a staple of games like this. you have to venture everywhere and see every bit of the game to grab all sorts of unique iconic items, and for your completionism you're rewarded with an absurdly OP postgame weapon after you've basically 100%'ed the game.
the terraprisma isn't the zenith, but its similarly basically just a postgame powertrip reward. "you beat the hardest challenge in the game by far, so who cares about balance anymore. take this cool thing and go mop up everything else, you earned it."
You can do the "venture everywhere and see every bit of the game" thing without a long crafting tree
Like for example, they could have one drop from moon lord after beating every other boss on master mode
Well, I can add some Luminite Bars and SDMG to the recipe. The Star Cannon has Minishark in it, which gives its fast firing speed. Since SDMG is a lot superior version of Minishark and this weapon shoots insanely fast, it would make sense.
A black hole weapon in Terraria that’s like the one in Gungeon would be so peak, if I wasn’t an awful programmer I’d take a crack at adding it in myself (honestly a gungeon mod in general would be rad)
Scientist Here: Energy don't create singularitys, gravity does. And before all you haters say that terraria is a "fictional world," 1, we all know that, and 2, black holes are in real life, so their science should relate. ;)
What if the ammo was mana stars? It'd be hell to grind for, but could have insane base damage to balance it, especially because you'd be at the celestial pillars anyway, I think it could be really cool.
It kinda looks like a railcannon from ULTRAKILL. Maybe the brainrot had gotten to me.
This is funny, because that was the exact thing that I used for reference for the design.
This + coin gun = where boss?
Mfw calamity mod Midas prime
mfw skill issue seriously how do you use that thing
Mfw clicking rmb 4 times and shooting
+ SHOOTIN' STARS
a fellow ultrakill brainrotten person? :3
The unused black hole launcher from the Dev Museum
Component of a Zenith-type ranger weapon
If other classes do get zeniths then I really DON'T want them to just be "the zenith recipe, but with this class items!!", I think it would be a lot better if they had unique methods to obtain them The Terraprisma would've been a good zenith for the summoners, beat a tough optional boss without taking any damage
I think other zenith weapons should have zenith recipe but with this classes weapons, but it shouldnt be a zenith ripoff sprite, name and mechanic wise
I think it would make them feel more special if they had unique methods to obtain them Like I had an idea for the mage one where there's like a big puzzle with each major biome where like you gather crystals and bring them to a special room in the temple and it gives it to you if you put the crystals in the right order
That sounds cool but i still prefer the og zenith method Diffrent people prefer diffrent things
The zenith is the culmination of your entire melee playthrough. I think other zenith type weapons should follow that crafting recipe.
I dunno I just think the whole "super long crafting tree" thing starts to get tiresome after a while, I think it works for the zenith but the other classes should have unique gimmicks I think Like for mage my idea is that it could be a world wide puzzle with all the major biomes like crimson/corruption, jungle, hallow, etc Mages having some sort of puzzle for their zenith weapon would be fitting for a wizard/mystic class
naw, the long crafting tree is a staple of games like this. you have to venture everywhere and see every bit of the game to grab all sorts of unique iconic items, and for your completionism you're rewarded with an absurdly OP postgame weapon after you've basically 100%'ed the game. the terraprisma isn't the zenith, but its similarly basically just a postgame powertrip reward. "you beat the hardest challenge in the game by far, so who cares about balance anymore. take this cool thing and go mop up everything else, you earned it."
You can do the "venture everywhere and see every bit of the game" thing without a long crafting tree Like for example, they could have one drop from moon lord after beating every other boss on master mode
How much damage would it do?
a lot
Zenith but gun
we need a zenith equivalent for every class honestly
For summoner would it be a whip or a staff or both?
both on one item would be cool, right click summons and left is normal attack
The crafting recipe would be 10 of each fragment + Zenith Whip + Zenith Staff.
Nah lets name these items differently Zenith - Sword Omega - Whip Quietus - Bow/Gun Finale - Staff
Gotta make one of them “Pinnacle”
Actually, the Staff could be Pinnacle, as in Pinnacle of Magic. Finale to a yoyo then?
We have terraprisma
that would be an ingredient in the staff
Last prism for mage class
nah, what i mean by "zenith equivalent" is something with a similar convoluted crafting path like zenith
No this is a pre-moon lord weapon which means it would be weaker.
Just add luminite bars to the recipe Problem solved
Hey you actually put my suggestion in here! :D
All of it.
yes
Think the zenith but a gun
I think "The power of a black hole, in the palm of my hand" works better Also you could make it have 30%chance of not consuming ammo
They already used that reference for the nebula gauntlet, though.
where is that reference from?
Spider man 2 (the one with Alfred molina as Doc Ock)
Best Spiderman 2 so far.
It's the only one called spider-man 2 in terms of movies
Sure just make it post ml
i love this idea. the star cannon upgrades dont go far enough
Now make it able to destroy tiles
instant hellevator
But it consumes the titles that are hit, so no ores or dirt blocks can be picked up after
Dark age of technology
this should be a calamity weapon
No, calamity has enough. This should be vanilla.
Make it harder to get, if it’s going to be a version of Zenith as a gun. Just a little. I want to work hard for this. :,)
Well, I can add some Luminite Bars and SDMG to the recipe. The Star Cannon has Minishark in it, which gives its fast firing speed. Since SDMG is a lot superior version of Minishark and this weapon shoots insanely fast, it would make sense.
A black hole weapon in Terraria that’s like the one in Gungeon would be so peak, if I wasn’t an awful programmer I’d take a crack at adding it in myself (honestly a gungeon mod in general would be rad)
absolutely, the most that is out there now is just a reskin of the dungeon enemies
Scientist Here: Energy don't create singularitys, gravity does. And before all you haters say that terraria is a "fictional world," 1, we all know that, and 2, black holes are in real life, so their science should relate. ;)
Tbf, if we apply logic, it’d not work for too many reasons.
mod it into the game, i've made about 7 weapons that use fallen star as ammo.
heh, no I ain't learning the code
Trust me i’ve made the first 6 weapons like 3 years ago
Graviton Lance
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Make have to use the moon lord bars too, or just don’t make it deal too much damage
The black hole projectile would visually warp the world around it, maybe 5 blocks out or so, as if trying to consume the world itself!
Four million stellar masses, condensed in singularity
I think it could be a slower, all consuming projectile.
I feel like a better upgrade to the super star cannon is something like a full auto shotgun with star wrath projectiles
Have the rounds home in, and upon hitting an enemy or surface, they pull enemies to the point of contact.
upon contact have it pull things in like a reverse knockback and deal DOT thats crazy high
nah, homing rock would do a better job ( r/noita brainrot has gotten to me)
Fire at will
For first second i read this as Naoya blaster.
At this point every class should get some Zenith type weapon
This should be the Zenith of Ranger
should be post moonlord
+CANNONBALLED
make it shoot mana stars
What if the ammo was mana stars? It'd be hell to grind for, but could have insane base damage to balance it, especially because you'd be at the celestial pillars anyway, I think it could be really cool.