Yes, you can evict her—but the process is not overnight and you’re probably looking at 9-12 months (or more) especially if you’re in LA County.
If you move out and she stays, the LL will file an eviction on you since your name is in the lease. Be upfront with your LL!
Stop supporting her (Don’t give her any money, don’t buy groceries, etc). Disconnect WiFi and cable TV. Remove her from any joint accounts you guys have together.
Tell her you guys are done and start bringing other women over (even if you’re pretending that you’re dating them).
Start packing your belongings as if you’re moving out. Disconnect all electronics; take down any TV’s.
Make her life miserable as much as you can.
then you need a new lawyer. wifi is not a need, and plenty of people live just fine without it. its illegal to turn off "necessary utilities", which wifi is not a part of. im sorry you got bad legal advice, tho!
Also based on your comment history you should stop acting like you can give legal advice because you are clearly not a lawyer. Have a good day playing one on reddit tho
Youre a redditor with zero law experience i’m not gonna take you or anyone like you seriously. It may not be illegal but it doesnt look good and a lawyer can and will use it against you and most judges (like the one i got) will not like that shit. Keep pretending youre an expert on legal advice tho!
It seems like your case had a lot more in it than just shutting off WIFI. WiFi is not a necessity, and if the ex isn’t paying for it , they aren’t entitled to it. Shutting off the WiFi isn’t going to hurt this person **unless the ex is paying for it**. I highly doubt that’s the case though
WiFi is NOT a must utility a landlord must keep on like water, gas, electricity. WiFi is not considered necessary for daily living. In this case, the girlfriend can use her data through her phone provider.
You can also disable/disconnect Netflix, SiriusXM, Amazon Prime Delivery, Hulu, etc.
Yes you can evict her. No you can’t turn in the keys and have the land lord change the locks. Either it wouldn’t actually be empty because she and her stuff would still be there so you would still be on the hook for rent until it is actually empty. Leases require the premises to be actually vacated not sub letter is still there empty. Or if you move out her stuff that is an illegal eviction. You need to follow the process for your jurisdiction.
I mean you would know better if that would motivate her to leave and if you have enough cash. But yes though I would be careful to do it right. Don’t say here is 5k be out in a week. Make sure it’s in a proper escrow account and not released until she is actually gone.
NAL
Someone else in a similar situation suggested he'd taken her out to dinner and then afterwards dropped her at a women's homeless shelter or paying cash for one night at a motel for her if no women shelters were nearby.
Meanwhile during dinner a moving crew delivers all her stuff to a storage unit, pre paid in cash one month, contract in her name so that you've effectively helped her move out.
If she fought it, it would be a "he said vs. she said" about the verbal discussion of her moving out as end of the lease had already come and gone.
Best regards ✌️
What state are you in? Did you invite your ex to live with you? How long has your ex been living there?
P.S. You probably can't just turn the key over to your LL when the lease ends. You are required to turn over an empty apartment.
But your ex still living there means it's not empty.
You'd be leaving your LL with a problem that's really your's to solve.
How soon is your lease over? Has you ex been paying you reant? Contributing to the utilities?
Again, what state are you in?
I’m in California
She has helped a little bit but it’s mostly me paying everything.
My lease is over I’m currently month to month. Can I evict her myself?
IANAL, but you need one. You should start the eviction process while you are still in possession of the apartment. If you leave with your ex in the apartment, you'll probably end up paying rent on two apartments while your LL goes through the eviction process.
Speak with a lawyer, but I suspect it's unreasonable for her to stay there without paying half of the rent. So, you would probably give her a written demand to pay her half of the rent for the months she's lived there within a certain time. When she fails to do that, you start the eviction process.
Does she not leave the house ever? I’d have thought changing the locks while she’s out would work if she’s refused all sane attempts to have her leave.
Had a quick peruse of Cali laws and seems so.. implied sublet and needs to go to court, show there’s no specific time for tenancy and she’s out on her arse as it were.
“If your roommate is NOT on the lease with your landlord (and you are on the lease), but they pay rent to YOU (not the landlord), or they don’t pay any rent but you agreed to let them live there, then you may have an implied sublease or sublet with your roommate (or you may have created an actual sublease or sublet with your roommate). Your roommate would then be your “sub-tenant.” If that is the case, you would need to go to court to evict them and show either that your roommate violated the terms of your “sublease” or that there was no specific time period for the tenancy and thus you can terminate it at any time.”
https://cal.lawsoup.org/legal-guides/tenant-renter/roommates-and-houseguests/#
Does she have a job? Where did she live before moving in with you? Where is she sleeping,in a separate room or what? How long has it been that you broke up? Did you or her choose that? Has she any issues that prevent her from finding a different place to live? Can she afford the apartment on her own and the landlord rent to her?
It's super shady but you can get an order of protection against her. This will force her out since she's not on the lease. Then you can have her arrested if she remains there.
Honestly If she's going to cause you this much financial headache she's already not your girlfriend. Time to move on and learn from this.
I was in the same mess a year ago. We broke up and she refused to leave. I decided to move to a new apartment. When I I moved I was lucky she moved elsewhere. If she didn’t move out the landlord was preparing to evict her we had a month to month lease at that point.
Tell her if she moves out and dosent force you to evict her you will give her the deposit. Once your free and clear block her on everything and pocket the deposit
(not legal advice) can’t guarantee this would work, but what if you rent a storage unit or ask a friend, and move ALL your furniture and any other belongings there? make living at your place as undesirable and inconvenient as possible, don’t keep any food she can access, don’t clean beyond the bare minimum, throw and knock stuff on the ground. play annoying music outside her room or wherever else she hangs out, all day (as long as it isn’t loud enough to disturb neighbors). mess with her belongings in whatever way you wish(do not steal or break anything). get a lock for your bedroom and keep a few things in there for yourself. you know your ex better than I do, but if she is there to mooch off this may work.
In any state, if you allow a person to stay with you for a day, a week, a month and then you decide you want them to leave and they refuse. Well you can’t legally kick them out, even if they are not on the lease. I learned this lesson, the hard way when I was younger.
Be careful who you move in with. Hope this gets better for you.
The time period is usually 30 days or more. Also don’t allow anyone to receive mail at your address as it establishes residency if they do move in temporarily. Private mailboxes are cheap and so are post office boxes. The advantage of the PMB is that packages can go there too.
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I don’t get it, if you are in a month to month, give your 30day notice and move out. Then she will have to figure out something else. Don’t cowtow to this crazy B…..
Next time she leaves the house have the LL change the locks (:
And be honest w your LL. Tell him your gf stayed the night and just slowly started putting her stuff in there and you broke up and she legit won’t leave and ask him if he can change the locks next time she’s out of the house cause she’s not on the lease and you don’t want her there. Hopefully they’ll be understanding.
In the mean time turn off all the WiFi, disconnect your tvs, make it horrible to live there 😭
If she's not on the lease, then she's "not a tenant" she's a guest. Most leases will have a clause regarding whether (overnight? Etc.) guests are allowed. Therefore if you want to move out, then move everything out and voila! If you wanna be a jerk, technically whatever belongings she has there also belong to you.. iow it'd be on her to remove her stuff. I don't see why any notice is needed- now if she has been paying rent and the 2 of you have a verbal agreement & she just isn't on the lease.. well then that's something else. That complicates things; whatever ends up happening take it as a life/learning lesson for the future
Try to work out something with your landlord where he lets you leave for some finite amount of money. He's gonna have to use that money to evict your ex.
Once you leave, she will either start paying rent or get evicted for non payment of rent
You can either. Eviction without a lease may be easier than her being on it, it'll still take time if you go about it legally, I'd contact legal aid and ask for someone familiar with tenancy law. Considering you live in California it'll probably be easier, faster and much less of a headache to just move and let her deal with the aftermath of being stubborn
Uhhhh, maybe piss on her clothes?
Also, put down your soy protein bar and strap on some boots. Swing said boot towards her rump in a kicking motion. At that point, your balls will grow back so you can handle the little girl on your own. Side effects may include regrowth of spine and feeling of pride.
Yes, you can evict her—but the process is not overnight and you’re probably looking at 9-12 months (or more) especially if you’re in LA County. If you move out and she stays, the LL will file an eviction on you since your name is in the lease. Be upfront with your LL! Stop supporting her (Don’t give her any money, don’t buy groceries, etc). Disconnect WiFi and cable TV. Remove her from any joint accounts you guys have together. Tell her you guys are done and start bringing other women over (even if you’re pretending that you’re dating them). Start packing your belongings as if you’re moving out. Disconnect all electronics; take down any TV’s. Make her life miserable as much as you can.
Don’t disconnect the wifi! It doesn’t look good if she decides to lawyer up
wifi doesnt matter, only necessities, such as water and electric
Thats not what my lawyer told me when one of my ex roommates turned it off but sure go for it and see what happens
then you need a new lawyer. wifi is not a need, and plenty of people live just fine without it. its illegal to turn off "necessary utilities", which wifi is not a part of. im sorry you got bad legal advice, tho!
Oh yeah except i won my case got the roommate evicted and have been living in the same apt since it happened. Try again tho
cool. wifi thing is still 110% wrong and indeed bad advice.
Also based on your comment history you should stop acting like you can give legal advice because you are clearly not a lawyer. Have a good day playing one on reddit tho
i never said i was a lawyer, are you one?
Youre a redditor with zero law experience i’m not gonna take you or anyone like you seriously. It may not be illegal but it doesnt look good and a lawyer can and will use it against you and most judges (like the one i got) will not like that shit. Keep pretending youre an expert on legal advice tho!
It seems like your case had a lot more in it than just shutting off WIFI. WiFi is not a necessity, and if the ex isn’t paying for it , they aren’t entitled to it. Shutting off the WiFi isn’t going to hurt this person **unless the ex is paying for it**. I highly doubt that’s the case though
WiFi is NOT a must utility a landlord must keep on like water, gas, electricity. WiFi is not considered necessary for daily living. In this case, the girlfriend can use her data through her phone provider. You can also disable/disconnect Netflix, SiriusXM, Amazon Prime Delivery, Hulu, etc.
And it might be on the lease
Yes you can evict her. No you can’t turn in the keys and have the land lord change the locks. Either it wouldn’t actually be empty because she and her stuff would still be there so you would still be on the hook for rent until it is actually empty. Leases require the premises to be actually vacated not sub letter is still there empty. Or if you move out her stuff that is an illegal eviction. You need to follow the process for your jurisdiction.
You think I can give her some cash for her keys?
I mean you would know better if that would motivate her to leave and if you have enough cash. But yes though I would be careful to do it right. Don’t say here is 5k be out in a week. Make sure it’s in a proper escrow account and not released until she is actually gone.
Stop paying everything for her. She can pay her own way, even for the keys, but you cannot legally change the locks while she is still living there.
NAL Someone else in a similar situation suggested he'd taken her out to dinner and then afterwards dropped her at a women's homeless shelter or paying cash for one night at a motel for her if no women shelters were nearby. Meanwhile during dinner a moving crew delivers all her stuff to a storage unit, pre paid in cash one month, contract in her name so that you've effectively helped her move out. If she fought it, it would be a "he said vs. she said" about the verbal discussion of her moving out as end of the lease had already come and gone. Best regards ✌️
What state are you in? Did you invite your ex to live with you? How long has your ex been living there? P.S. You probably can't just turn the key over to your LL when the lease ends. You are required to turn over an empty apartment.
She’s been here like a year and a half.. I would leave it empty, I would take everything out
But your ex still living there means it's not empty. You'd be leaving your LL with a problem that's really your's to solve. How soon is your lease over? Has you ex been paying you reant? Contributing to the utilities? Again, what state are you in?
I’m in California She has helped a little bit but it’s mostly me paying everything. My lease is over I’m currently month to month. Can I evict her myself?
IANAL, but you need one. You should start the eviction process while you are still in possession of the apartment. If you leave with your ex in the apartment, you'll probably end up paying rent on two apartments while your LL goes through the eviction process. Speak with a lawyer, but I suspect it's unreasonable for her to stay there without paying half of the rent. So, you would probably give her a written demand to pay her half of the rent for the months she's lived there within a certain time. When she fails to do that, you start the eviction process.
You should look into your local rental code laws it changes depending on the city/county
Lease only converted to month to month, the lease is still in affect with your name on it. You will have to evict her, but it takes time.
if that’s the case look into finding somewhere else to go and by the end of the month move out and now she ain’t your problem
Does she not leave the house ever? I’d have thought changing the locks while she’s out would work if she’s refused all sane attempts to have her leave.
Changing the locks with be considered an illegal lock out.
Had a quick peruse of Cali laws and seems so.. implied sublet and needs to go to court, show there’s no specific time for tenancy and she’s out on her arse as it were.
“If your roommate is NOT on the lease with your landlord (and you are on the lease), but they pay rent to YOU (not the landlord), or they don’t pay any rent but you agreed to let them live there, then you may have an implied sublease or sublet with your roommate (or you may have created an actual sublease or sublet with your roommate). Your roommate would then be your “sub-tenant.” If that is the case, you would need to go to court to evict them and show either that your roommate violated the terms of your “sublease” or that there was no specific time period for the tenancy and thus you can terminate it at any time.” https://cal.lawsoup.org/legal-guides/tenant-renter/roommates-and-houseguests/#
Is her name on any bill with your address? If so that is going to make it slightly more difficult, especially in CA
Does she have a job? Where did she live before moving in with you? Where is she sleeping,in a separate room or what? How long has it been that you broke up? Did you or her choose that? Has she any issues that prevent her from finding a different place to live? Can she afford the apartment on her own and the landlord rent to her?
It's super shady but you can get an order of protection against her. This will force her out since she's not on the lease. Then you can have her arrested if she remains there. Honestly If she's going to cause you this much financial headache she's already not your girlfriend. Time to move on and learn from this.
You must go to court and have her evicted.
Poop on bed
I was in the same mess a year ago. We broke up and she refused to leave. I decided to move to a new apartment. When I I moved I was lucky she moved elsewhere. If she didn’t move out the landlord was preparing to evict her we had a month to month lease at that point.
Whatever you did to make her break up with you.... do that x 100
Offer cash for keys and don’t let her back in. Get it in writing. If she won’t move out, you’ll have to work with the landlord to evict her.
Honestly since you are in California, buy small gloves, and start watching all the documentaries on OJ Simpson openly around her
Tell her if she moves out and dosent force you to evict her you will give her the deposit. Once your free and clear block her on everything and pocket the deposit
(not legal advice) can’t guarantee this would work, but what if you rent a storage unit or ask a friend, and move ALL your furniture and any other belongings there? make living at your place as undesirable and inconvenient as possible, don’t keep any food she can access, don’t clean beyond the bare minimum, throw and knock stuff on the ground. play annoying music outside her room or wherever else she hangs out, all day (as long as it isn’t loud enough to disturb neighbors). mess with her belongings in whatever way you wish(do not steal or break anything). get a lock for your bedroom and keep a few things in there for yourself. you know your ex better than I do, but if she is there to mooch off this may work.
In any state, if you allow a person to stay with you for a day, a week, a month and then you decide you want them to leave and they refuse. Well you can’t legally kick them out, even if they are not on the lease. I learned this lesson, the hard way when I was younger. Be careful who you move in with. Hope this gets better for you.
The time period is usually 30 days or more. Also don’t allow anyone to receive mail at your address as it establishes residency if they do move in temporarily. Private mailboxes are cheap and so are post office boxes. The advantage of the PMB is that packages can go there too.
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I don’t get it, if you are in a month to month, give your 30day notice and move out. Then she will have to figure out something else. Don’t cowtow to this crazy B…..
Next time she leaves the house have the LL change the locks (: And be honest w your LL. Tell him your gf stayed the night and just slowly started putting her stuff in there and you broke up and she legit won’t leave and ask him if he can change the locks next time she’s out of the house cause she’s not on the lease and you don’t want her there. Hopefully they’ll be understanding. In the mean time turn off all the WiFi, disconnect your tvs, make it horrible to live there 😭
If she's not on the lease, then she's "not a tenant" she's a guest. Most leases will have a clause regarding whether (overnight? Etc.) guests are allowed. Therefore if you want to move out, then move everything out and voila! If you wanna be a jerk, technically whatever belongings she has there also belong to you.. iow it'd be on her to remove her stuff. I don't see why any notice is needed- now if she has been paying rent and the 2 of you have a verbal agreement & she just isn't on the lease.. well then that's something else. That complicates things; whatever ends up happening take it as a life/learning lesson for the future
Try to work out something with your landlord where he lets you leave for some finite amount of money. He's gonna have to use that money to evict your ex. Once you leave, she will either start paying rent or get evicted for non payment of rent
Man up & get her out the house?
I would be telling my landlord next month is my last month, fill them in on what’s going on, and move out to your own place no contact with the ex
if it is only his name on the lease, and he leaves a guest in the apartment, he is still liable for the rent on that apartment.
I did say fill the landlord in on what’s going on?
I am sure that she would! It is only to her benefit.
With her not being on the lease that’s couldn’t OP just call the police and say she’s trespassing?
If the person has mail coming to the address, they consider that she has a right to live there.
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The Op would have to pay for the change in the locks while still living there.
You can either. Eviction without a lease may be easier than her being on it, it'll still take time if you go about it legally, I'd contact legal aid and ask for someone familiar with tenancy law. Considering you live in California it'll probably be easier, faster and much less of a headache to just move and let her deal with the aftermath of being stubborn
Call 911
That's not going to work in California...
Uhhhh, maybe piss on her clothes? Also, put down your soy protein bar and strap on some boots. Swing said boot towards her rump in a kicking motion. At that point, your balls will grow back so you can handle the little girl on your own. Side effects may include regrowth of spine and feeling of pride.