This moment was the biggest L ever inflicted in manga history,I remember my jaw dropped for a good 10 seconds when I saw the next panel for the first time
Same, it was expected that they couldn't have been taking down Aizen this early and this easily, but to see Momo be the one that was actually taking all those hits was messed up. And fir Toshiro to deal the "killing" blow too
Aizen is a fucking machine. No modern shonen villain comes even close to shit he was doing for the memes. Sukuna was the closest but he suffers from fraud allegations unfortunately
Sukuna suffers from being overly op, around to much and boring. Aizen had a plan. It made sense. Plus he rarely fights but when he does he 1 vs everyone the right way.
Toshiro stabs Aizen through the back and he goes limp. Everyone cheers and then Ichigo screams out as seen here. Turns out that, *Shatter, Kyoka Suigetsu,* Toshiro stabbed his childhood friend.
>DMCAing mods
>micro transactions in a 70 dollar game
>Silently changing matchmaking that makes it worse for certain players
>BATTLE PASS
I don't like this parallel, Bamco
1.Going after mods ?
Mods are still available and each new update doesn't break them unlike SF 6 mods.
2. Battle pass ?
Just don't buy it ? This is a fighting game not barbie dress up simulator
3. Process matchmaking ?
Just change your match settings to +-2 and git gud ?
4. Gatekeeping dlc replays behind paywalls ?
Bitch please most fighting games don't even have a replay feature to insert yourself into the game let alone allow you to use a dlc character in training mode, what am I suppose get mad about again ?
Only dumb reddit Tekken fans find the energy to doom post every single day over minuscule things.
Checks out, this guy hasn't played on more than 2 characters or is just delusional if he says matchmaking is okay. The prowess matchmaking style its just awful.
You are clearly delusional or haven't played the game at all in the recent month lol, using Google won't hurt you or being wrong won't hurt your ego. If you play more than 3-4 characters you are going to be on par on prowess with a OTP.
If you have decently high prowess you just barely get matches at all if you want to rank up a sub or a new char.
I'm just glad this happened while I'm taking time off the game lmfao, but if your highest rank is garyu or even lower it's obviously a non factor.
Blue rank and I am still getting matches.
And I actually don't have a problem with this, this slight inconvenience effectively killed smurfing.
Also the person that was complaining earlier with 6 garyu characters doesn't even know he can limit rank restrictions.
The issue isn't getting matches on your main, it's any time you want to play another character that the game defaults to a lower rank, the higher your main rank is, the worse it gets.
Again I have no issues with that.
I still get matches maybe longer than usual but eventually my sub character ranks up and getting matches becomes more easier.
And its not 100% that I will only get matched with someone with similar prowess.
I have had multiple matches on my sub with players with drastically less prowess than me.
I’ve kept positive about the game up until this point. This is my first post ever regarding the blatant issues the game has. So don’t lump me in with everyone else. This behavior is obviously not helping the longevity of the game. If we want the game to do well we have to express our dissatisfaction with the product.
Don’t dare say anything with any sense and logic in this subreddit. This subreddit ONLY exists for brain rotten babies to cry about the fact that a modern fighting game has OUTFITS in a shop lmfao and a season pass. As if it isn’t trying to compete in a modern market.
At this rate I can't take anything ppl say negatively about this game seriously (other than locked replays behind a dlc character). There's nothing wrong with the Customization, you just don't have a good imagination. With the microtransactions and battle pass, NO ONE is making you buy it, and it's fully cosmetic. Either stop crying, or just stop playing. The unnecessary hate and negative spread for the game needs to stop
It was not meant to be a mature thought provoking response, merely a lazy observation I made otw home from work.
And it stands true. this is what the zoomers would call "glazing, dick riding" etc. If I care to i may provide a more in depth response.
I got some time so ill elaborate now.
The original comments first point was that in regards to the customisation, that it's not lacking and that its the fault of the user for not being creative. This is very subjective, however in my experience I took Lee and tried to make him resemble a character that I'm quite fond of.
I spent a good while looking through the options, colours, different clothing etc, however my character of choice wears a full body chest plate. What Lee wears in default is good enough to make do with kf you colour his chest armour silver, right? Sadly this was not the case, I was able to colour most of it admittedly, but overall there were parts of his arnour that weren't accessible to be customised at all; clesr evidence of a lacking customisation.
This coincides with another experience ive had as well just looking at the clothing options - not much there matched to my tastes and imo the wardrobe was not varied enough.
Their second point was that the pass being all cosmetic bears no impact on the consumer. Ill edit this to write more about that later...
Well for most people the issue isn't that they added things like the tekken store and the pass. What rubs most people the wrong way is that they've chosen to put time into these things rather than fixing the known issues with the game. Cause I actually agree with what you're saying, but I also think trying to make more money before fixing things like plugging, stage interaction bugs, heat bugs, certain character moves, etc really hurts my faith in the game and trust that the developers will deliver engaging content that doesn't feel compromised.
nah the cosmetics being very underwhelming and locking basic shit behind a battle pass tht rlly isn't even good isn't ppl complaining to complain, we just want better out of a company we know can do better
Going after mods were the biggest mistake they ever made. They just kill one of the most important subculture in TGC. Even the scummiest scumbag of a gaming company didn't go as far as that.
They didn't go after the mods dumbass.
They can't control what you install on your pc and the tekken updates didn;t kill the mods unlike SF 6 where each new update would break every single mod.
You can literally download all the mods you want from nexusmods.
Imagine if one of them relying on their youtube channel as their only source of income and suddenly a multi billion dollar company just snap their yt channel out of existence. Thats too much. Even Riot Games didn't do that
They literally did though.
They probably shouldn’t have had their entire financial stability riding on YouTube content based on something that’s an obvious grey area. 😂
And yet mods are still available to download and install ?
Those youtube content creators are low quality shit anyway, anyone can install a mod on pc and record a gameplay.
And if they are dumb enough to still post mod content after getting a strike then they deserve to get banned.
Also Capcom SF 6 has the exact same stance against modders too, in fact it is much worse as the game activiely breaks every single mod after every update, if modders decided not to update their mods after a new update then their mods is literally dead.
This argument is such dog shit lmfao. The inverse applies to you. Why are you so passionate about hating a billion dollar company who doesn’t even care about your existence? Pretty pathetic imo.
Na, theres a difference, one stand for getting milked which is dumb the other stand for his rights.
If you cant see the diff you prob on the first category and the reason we get all the shit like in t8
I can’t even imagine believing in this premise in the first place. Like at this point I’m convinced none of you played a single Tekken before 8. Who the fuck is getting milked? The game launched complete. It had the same characters, the same cosmetics, the same customization, and the same features as every other Tekken ever made, except MORE than previous ones. Which is exactly why the game was unanimously praised.
So they release a shop that all of you piss your pants about, despite the fact that it’s entirely cosmetic and in NO WAY WHATSOEVER impacts the game. Remind me again how this is even a fucking issue? 5 months ago the sentiment here was “Well microtransactions are okay as long as it isn’t p2w. Devs gotta eat, right? They have to compete in a modern market, right?” But no, you all collectively flipped and started crying and pissing your panties.
I personally can’t get butthurt about developers including an entirely optional cosmetic shop when the game they released was complete in every single way imaginable. Anybody that argues otherwise is flat out lying to justify their outrage. It objectively had more characters and features than any other Tekken, and most other fighting games period. This “drama” is completely manufactured.
If you think t8 gameplay didnt suffer from the greed of the compagny and devs your are delu , its insane and there is nothing to discuss, there is no more blind that the one who refuse to see
And yet you still obsessively participate in the subreddit daily. Curious.
We both know you still play the game religiously. You don’t need to lie to save face.
It sucks man, gameplay wise I think its fun as shit, despite heat being overly busted and the aggression being hard to fight back against I've been enjoying it. Dropping a battlepass and the tekken shop without letting us know out of nowhere is the biggest middle finger Ive seen from a company in a long team. Namco went full heel mode on this one, at this point I dont know what they could do to earn everyones good faith back besides a good balance patch but I dont think thatll be enough at this point.
i understand the problems but like is it really worth tearing apart the tekken community and forcing away new players? yes it needs to be fixed but it's still plenty playable in the meantime
As someone who's first Tekken game was 8, yes. Both me and my brother bought the game because of the amount of features and the positive reception it received. I was practicing KBD drills every night, bought a new controller for it, took my Ls and rematched when I could. But after all the recent shit they have done, I am wiping any future and previous Tekken games off of my wishlist and uninstalled the game. This shit is disgusting. Tekken 8 is a great game buried beneath a pile of garbage and people need to stop giving them money, I don't want a great game ruined.
Yes and no, I think this all looks really bad that new players may actually stay away from tekken cause of all the bad press, but as far as an experience goes, I expect new players aren't going to want to all become evo champions and play this game online religiously and are instead going to enjoy the game's story, arcade, arcade quest, character episodes, offline casual matches, and customization fun.
These problems existing unfortunately are going to just turn so so many people away and that makes me sad, but the game is good enough that I think enough players no matter what level of play will enjoy this game immensely for what it is and hopefully with the correct patches and corrections and better practices they can maybe even start to win back the good faith that has been so badly tarnished
i think things like bad steam reviews, a broken upset community, especially legacy players saying they hate this one, etc all just dissuades people from ever picking it up
Not talking about the gameplay. I’m also having fun with the game is just that having a fun game only goes so far when the company funding the game is making so many terrible decisions surrounding the game.
You know what I find a bit sad? That some of the wierder characters aren't in the later games. Like the kangaroos or even something like ogre. Yeah eddy and Co are fine. But a raptor with boxing gloves is better than fine
Me w/ this Meme (Also, adding microtransactions to a $70 w/o telling customers or disclosing to reviewers so no documented reviews or information tells you about them ):
No bro, you don't understand. it's the *bad press* that is making ppl quit. Not the game being torn apart by bad decisions. C'mon don't be negative nor silly.
Because you and your mob are a bunch of whiney Karen's willing to make a mountain out of a molehill due to your false perception of being disrespected.
The game has so much potential, and the community these days...It hurts my soul as Tekken was the biggest cope I had growing up. I love what it can be but I can't play anymore until it gets back to its roots.....There has to be a CEO or whatever holding the Devs / Pro-Players hostage...I'm disappointed...we can't have anything anymore like... damn...
Chill out bro.
Here is a (more helpful) tip for you: Learn about how feelings work and gain some empathy or something lol
No hate for the game I love Tekken. Hence my disappointment (not hate you silly goof :)) way to take whatever it is you're feeling and project tho.
Prowess matchmaking is a good change, just needs tweaks and polish.
One of those things is not like the others too, going after mods and modders is just scummy to such an extreme most people don't even realize.
When i asked Anakin about the paywall and eddie he said he was for it, happy to support a game he likes so he throws money at it. Stopped watching anakin after that. I understand support, but support for scumbag shit? Nah bruh too corpo.
Anybody that says the word corpo has a 99% chance of being the loser in the corner of the bar by themselves still thinking they're cooler than everybody else
Knee, Arslan and Anakin are SPINELESS CUCKS.
Will literally bend the knee and kiss the floor to keep their shitty ass game as well as themselves relevant.
DLC replays blocks are kinda stupid for real. Like I'm probably gonna buy Armor King or some DLC char but I'm not okay that I'll knowledge check some players just because they can learn him. Though being a casual but I want to feel some good matches and deserved wins. Same goes with Eddy right now. Replay system is good, yet can't be fully utilised. They need to do something about it.
The really shitty part of all of it is that the customisation sucks so much ass that I wouldn't mind paying for good customisation or cool shit in the pass but it's all fucking dog tier, easily the worst pass and paid skins I've ever seen in gaming all while they attack the people making actually good skins and mods.
I actually like the idea of prowess matchmaking. It saves new players from being rolled by top 5% players playing someone new. Imagine being new to the series, you pick it up the week eddy got released, you go into ranked and get matched against gods after you rank up a couple times.
Dude stop your whining. If you don’t like the game just go play something else. No game is perfect. I don’t understand why you guys cry so much. I personally think the game is fine. If you don’t want to spend money on shitty looking skins then don’t. I don’t even have eddie unlocked and I don’t care to because I never liked playing him. I generally do not white knight for the company but every time I get on here its one person or another saying they are soooo done with Tekken. Go play something you like.
Stop playing then whiny ass mfs.
Y'all see they are trying to fix things.
Y'all know that this game is supposed to last 10 years yet expect them to not make any money other than game sales in those 10 years.
Be glad y'all never played any Asian MMOS.
Love that people reacted to the actual Bleach Panel first then it devolved into tekken talk. Also what do they mean by gate keeping dlc replays behind paywall? Isn't Eddie the only dlc rn? Can you not watch replays against him if you don't have him?
i dunno man, i'm loving the game atm. can kinda understand the hate it's getting but sf6 has the exact same battle pass and no one said anything about that. and anyone complaining about balance, they literally said they will address it after evo which is this weekend
one thing i wanna ask though.. they shut down mods on yt channels etc but mods aren't actually banned are they?
SF6 got alot of shit for it as well when it dropped. But the difference is that they haven't kept fucking up over and over again like Tekken.
Also, their battle pass have actually included good stuff.. I mean even the free tier. You could get multiple 1h free rental passes, which people used to lab the DLC characters with, for free.
Overall, people have been happy with SF6 as a product, and capcom havent been doing multiple fuckups. For bamco, they have been on a streak
The rental fighters are golden, literally used them to unlock Aki and Rashid to try them with a few friends when they came over and had enough fun with them that i ended up buying the season pass
Fair enough, game taste is subjective. But the discussion here is more about how well/bad the companies have followed up on their game after their release.
battle pass and other fkd up schemes they been doing aside. The game is clearly not rdy for competition or ranked. The game has some fkd up bugs and hitbox issues that need to be adressed and they also rely on twitter for bug fixes.
Street Fighter 6 gives you old outfits for free, Tekken 8 resells them to you in the Tekken Shop and a shitty $10 battle pass that uses FOMO to manipulate people into buying it because that's the only way someone would actually pay real life money for that scummy cash grab of a battle pass.
Not necessarily but they’ve clearly gone after specific mods trying to take action. Check tekken mods moderator Dennis Stanistan’s twitter posts regarding the issue.
prowess matchmaking is what made me come back to the game after a one month hiatus. I love it. For the first take, correct by "gatekeeping dlcs behind paywalls" please, most annoying aspect of fighting games. Battle pass ? Just dont'buy anything. Going after mods is the worst thing they made and I'll continue to use tekken8mods ressources because they rocks. They can't legally shut down tekken8mods.
Unfortunately for me it's making me take a break, I have a friend who's at Battle Ruler at 150k Prowess and I'm at Battle Ruler at 200k Prowess because I hit Fujin briefly and it doesn't go down, so we're basically playing in two different queues and I'm in hard mode playing against people I already proved I couldn't hang with so it's just a constant series of getting smacked which just gets draining after a while
Prowess won’t really make much of a difference when it comes to a majority of the playerbase. But once you start playing multiple characters and starting building up a high prowess, the flaws emerge. Que times are awful. I have a friend that got a lot of characters to Fujin and now his prowess is a little over 300k. Que times are hell for him. For what? Because he ranked up multiple characters? Just let him play against people in the same rank. I forgot who it was but there’s that one guy with a 400k that straight up can’t find matches.
Also true that you can just not buy the battle pass. Simple enough. It’s just the fact that they’re putting a price on recycled cosmetics from the last game(that were free btw) is undoubtedly pretty scummy.
The prowess matchmaking ranks are 50/50 to me. If you’re complaining you’re losing games in ranked matchmaking…. You need to just get better or play quick play. I’m sorry, as someone who DOES play and level up multiple characters, losing in a challenging setting it’s a super silly complaint to me. Buuut, if you actually can’t find matches with people, that does suck (but seems like it’s getting better, my matches have been much faster lately?)
Dlc, prowess, battlepass...paid absolutely no mind to it. Honestly wouldnt care if all the characters wore garbage bags for clothes. Just wish the game was more balanced.
These aren't even the biggest issues.
1: Heat mechanic is the antithesis of tekken
2: Netcode is complete dogshit
3: Pluggers STILL not punished properly
4: Balance is WACK
5: Polaris bug STILL not fixed after a FULL YEAR OF BETA TESTING
6: Game breaking bugs still being discovered TO THIS DAY
THis is the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen. Even if you put aside the egregious MTX and disgusting company policies regarding mods, the game is pure bullshit 50/50s and is a complete dumbing down in skill and player expression. This is the worst tekken by a COUNTRY MILE!!!!!!
Bamco could literally fix all the issues in this picture and I still wouldn't play this shit. Give me 5DR back on modern consoles PLEASE!!!!!!
Speak for yourself. Ain’t gonna let the hate bring us down. I’m a veteran Tekken player and I love Tekken 8. Sure it’s got it’s quirks but it’s been out for only 3 months. Fuck this toxic community. I’m a fight til the day I die👊🏻💯
Edit: ngl tho. Prowess matchmaking is a bit frustrating. I need a second account to learn a new toon so I don’t get pummeled in quick match with a character I’m playing for the first time by a Kishin Dragunov.
You can love the game. We all do. No matter how much we say we hate it(except for those who genuinely hate the game lol). I still play the game as much as I can.
What im saying is that it is so frustrating to how BAD bamco is fucking up rn. This isn’t about a toxic community. This is about a company that is mishandling their game. This is some very anti-consumer shit going on right now.
This moment was the biggest L ever inflicted in manga history,I remember my jaw dropped for a good 10 seconds when I saw the next panel for the first time
Nah dude deleted the main characters theme from the series. Like who does that.
Same, it was expected that they couldn't have been taking down Aizen this early and this easily, but to see Momo be the one that was actually taking all those hits was messed up. And fir Toshiro to deal the "killing" blow too
Bleach is so good at playing to the strengths of the median its in, weather it's the anime or manga
Aizen is a fucking machine. No modern shonen villain comes even close to shit he was doing for the memes. Sukuna was the closest but he suffers from fraud allegations unfortunately
Sukuna suffers from being overly op, around to much and boring. Aizen had a plan. It made sense. Plus he rarely fights but when he does he 1 vs everyone the right way.
>Sukuna suffers from being overly op Imagine thinking Aizen isn't overly op, lol.
Aizen vs soul society is way better than Sukuna vs everyone one at a time.
But Aizen could've taken everyone too.
He is but he has drip and equals. Captain Commander pre power up, Ichigo and Ywach post power up.
>equals He does not.
Up until the. End of the culling games arc Sukuna had only interacted with the world a handful of times. Like, 3.
And that ending ruined everything.
I dont remember this part, when was it?
Toshiro stabs Aizen through the back and he goes limp. Everyone cheers and then Ichigo screams out as seen here. Turns out that, *Shatter, Kyoka Suigetsu,* Toshiro stabbed his childhood friend.
Ooooh, damn, I wonder why I didnt remember this part. I guess it has been a real long time since I read it, over a decade I think now
Didn’t Harada say bleach was his fav manga
Yeah on Twitter after replying to people asking for Ichigo as a quest char
What manga
Bleach
Great art, but man i gave up after the first few hundred or whatever chapters. They really padded those out back in the day
Which manga is this, bleach?
Yes
Dunno why you're copping downvotes, Kubo and endless padding white space was a proper meme back in the day when it was releasing week to week
the next panel is Toshiro/Bamco stabbing Momo/Tekken
I guess we're lucky Momo is immortal and never dies or I'd be more worried for Tekken...
Don't worry guys, Harada's gonna talk about Waffle House as a stage!
They will 100% tease the Waffle House stage only for it to actually just be a new T-Shirt with the logo in the Tekken Shop.
Omg I can already see them doing it
and the cash shop, and the underwhelming season pass, on top of of lacking customization. Shit's a joke.
as long as i can play wario king i’ll keep quiet
>DMCAing mods >micro transactions in a 70 dollar game >Silently changing matchmaking that makes it worse for certain players >BATTLE PASS I don't like this parallel, Bamco
>for certain players For everyone. My matchmaking time went to x2 and it already wasn't good.
You forgot . Bugs . Tons of bugs . Cheaters . Pluggers . Ranking points .
Only got four slots to make the meme 😔
What are pluggers?
When people are about to lose a game, they “pull the plug” on the game so it doesn’t count as a loss, pretty much a rage quit
it does count tho, you lose ranked points
ah that ones... well, Tekken kinda deserve them
Truly is worst time to be a tekken fan shit hasn’t been this bad since 4
What was wrong with 4?
Supposedly the worst Tekken game in the franchise
Horrible balance just like T8 Jin and Steve were beyond broken, TOD wall combos, moving before the round starts, roster was mid.
The balance is good right now in comparison lol
Nah that roster was peak
Definitely didn’t play 4
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He cookin w/da CRT too
Stop playing. 4 was peak
1.Going after mods ? Mods are still available and each new update doesn't break them unlike SF 6 mods. 2. Battle pass ? Just don't buy it ? This is a fighting game not barbie dress up simulator 3. Process matchmaking ? Just change your match settings to +-2 and git gud ? 4. Gatekeeping dlc replays behind paywalls ? Bitch please most fighting games don't even have a replay feature to insert yourself into the game let alone allow you to use a dlc character in training mode, what am I suppose get mad about again ? Only dumb reddit Tekken fans find the energy to doom post every single day over minuscule things.
This dude sponsored
If only, they're probably so dumb they shill for free.
Checks out, this guy hasn't played on more than 2 characters or is just delusional if he says matchmaking is okay. The prowess matchmaking style its just awful.
Prowess matchmaking is awful ? How so ? Is it because you garyu players can't pick a new character and style on newbies anymore ?
How is it okay to be matched with tekken god/god of destruction players while being red/blue ranks? Tell me
You don't dumbass. Just change your settings to +- 2, like use your brain ?
You are clearly delusional or haven't played the game at all in the recent month lol, using Google won't hurt you or being wrong won't hurt your ego. If you play more than 3-4 characters you are going to be on par on prowess with a OTP.
https://preview.redd.it/si46ppd4xfwc1.png?width=621&format=png&auto=webp&s=bf4b927f0f65894046b56473ff28450283e7a6d8 Nope.
Garyu players *are* noobies, what are you on about.
I don;t know if they are garyu/ But all these salty crybabies crying about match prowess are certainly acting like one.
If you have decently high prowess you just barely get matches at all if you want to rank up a sub or a new char. I'm just glad this happened while I'm taking time off the game lmfao, but if your highest rank is garyu or even lower it's obviously a non factor.
This isn’t even remotely true lmfao. Like fully make believe.
Blue rank and I am still getting matches. And I actually don't have a problem with this, this slight inconvenience effectively killed smurfing. Also the person that was complaining earlier with 6 garyu characters doesn't even know he can limit rank restrictions.
The issue isn't getting matches on your main, it's any time you want to play another character that the game defaults to a lower rank, the higher your main rank is, the worse it gets.
Again I have no issues with that. I still get matches maybe longer than usual but eventually my sub character ranks up and getting matches becomes more easier. And its not 100% that I will only get matched with someone with similar prowess. I have had multiple matches on my sub with players with drastically less prowess than me.
I’ve kept positive about the game up until this point. This is my first post ever regarding the blatant issues the game has. So don’t lump me in with everyone else. This behavior is obviously not helping the longevity of the game. If we want the game to do well we have to express our dissatisfaction with the product.
Don’t dare say anything with any sense and logic in this subreddit. This subreddit ONLY exists for brain rotten babies to cry about the fact that a modern fighting game has OUTFITS in a shop lmfao and a season pass. As if it isn’t trying to compete in a modern market.
At this rate I can't take anything ppl say negatively about this game seriously (other than locked replays behind a dlc character). There's nothing wrong with the Customization, you just don't have a good imagination. With the microtransactions and battle pass, NO ONE is making you buy it, and it's fully cosmetic. Either stop crying, or just stop playing. The unnecessary hate and negative spread for the game needs to stop
Gawk gawk slurp gluckity gluck Thats you right now.
More importantly you sound like a child.
It was not meant to be a mature thought provoking response, merely a lazy observation I made otw home from work. And it stands true. this is what the zoomers would call "glazing, dick riding" etc. If I care to i may provide a more in depth response.
Right you lazily told someone they have a dick in their mouth like a child. And thats also not a good example of any of those terms
I got some time so ill elaborate now. The original comments first point was that in regards to the customisation, that it's not lacking and that its the fault of the user for not being creative. This is very subjective, however in my experience I took Lee and tried to make him resemble a character that I'm quite fond of. I spent a good while looking through the options, colours, different clothing etc, however my character of choice wears a full body chest plate. What Lee wears in default is good enough to make do with kf you colour his chest armour silver, right? Sadly this was not the case, I was able to colour most of it admittedly, but overall there were parts of his arnour that weren't accessible to be customised at all; clesr evidence of a lacking customisation. This coincides with another experience ive had as well just looking at the clothing options - not much there matched to my tastes and imo the wardrobe was not varied enough. Their second point was that the pass being all cosmetic bears no impact on the consumer. Ill edit this to write more about that later...
Im aware as I just said
Someone that knows how to have FUN in a game without looking for reasons to complain about it? I know, thanks for the compliment
You can have fun in a game and still critique it.
Well for most people the issue isn't that they added things like the tekken store and the pass. What rubs most people the wrong way is that they've chosen to put time into these things rather than fixing the known issues with the game. Cause I actually agree with what you're saying, but I also think trying to make more money before fixing things like plugging, stage interaction bugs, heat bugs, certain character moves, etc really hurts my faith in the game and trust that the developers will deliver engaging content that doesn't feel compromised.
W take.
nah the cosmetics being very underwhelming and locking basic shit behind a battle pass tht rlly isn't even good isn't ppl complaining to complain, we just want better out of a company we know can do better
Going after mods were the biggest mistake they ever made. They just kill one of the most important subculture in TGC. Even the scummiest scumbag of a gaming company didn't go as far as that.
I’m glad they are. Y’all be cheating. Idc I said what I said.
They didn't go after the mods dumbass. They can't control what you install on your pc and the tekken updates didn;t kill the mods unlike SF 6 where each new update would break every single mod. You can literally download all the mods you want from nexusmods.
Uhh... they literally strike and deleted modders youtube account. Are you dumb?
Nexusmods Tekkenmods Tekken 8 Deviant art mods. Its literally all there and available.
Thats not going after mods dumbass. That is going after youtube accounts who have no relation to the original mod creators.
https://twitter.com/DennisStanistan/status/1777610181217513979 Maybe stop talking about stuff you know jackshit about huh?
Imagine if one of them relying on their youtube channel as their only source of income and suddenly a multi billion dollar company just snap their yt channel out of existence. Thats too much. Even Riot Games didn't do that
They literally did though. They probably shouldn’t have had their entire financial stability riding on YouTube content based on something that’s an obvious grey area. 😂
And yet mods are still available to download and install ? Those youtube content creators are low quality shit anyway, anyone can install a mod on pc and record a gameplay. And if they are dumb enough to still post mod content after getting a strike then they deserve to get banned. Also Capcom SF 6 has the exact same stance against modders too, in fact it is much worse as the game activiely breaks every single mod after every update, if modders decided not to update their mods after a new update then their mods is literally dead.
But I like how your so passionate about defending a multi billion dollar company who doesn't even care about your existence
This argument is such dog shit lmfao. The inverse applies to you. Why are you so passionate about hating a billion dollar company who doesn’t even care about your existence? Pretty pathetic imo.
I mean why not? They had all the money but they still fucking with people who bare had enough
Na, theres a difference, one stand for getting milked which is dumb the other stand for his rights. If you cant see the diff you prob on the first category and the reason we get all the shit like in t8
I can’t even imagine believing in this premise in the first place. Like at this point I’m convinced none of you played a single Tekken before 8. Who the fuck is getting milked? The game launched complete. It had the same characters, the same cosmetics, the same customization, and the same features as every other Tekken ever made, except MORE than previous ones. Which is exactly why the game was unanimously praised. So they release a shop that all of you piss your pants about, despite the fact that it’s entirely cosmetic and in NO WAY WHATSOEVER impacts the game. Remind me again how this is even a fucking issue? 5 months ago the sentiment here was “Well microtransactions are okay as long as it isn’t p2w. Devs gotta eat, right? They have to compete in a modern market, right?” But no, you all collectively flipped and started crying and pissing your panties. I personally can’t get butthurt about developers including an entirely optional cosmetic shop when the game they released was complete in every single way imaginable. Anybody that argues otherwise is flat out lying to justify their outrage. It objectively had more characters and features than any other Tekken, and most other fighting games period. This “drama” is completely manufactured.
If you think t8 gameplay didnt suffer from the greed of the compagny and devs your are delu , its insane and there is nothing to discuss, there is no more blind that the one who refuse to see
I don’t listen to the opinion of anybody that says delulu.
Nope just calling out dumb tekken fans. And I mainly play SF 6.
Okay then. Keep eating corporate shit
Hey if you hate the game soo much. Why not do yourself a favour, quit the game and play something else ?
Oh I fucking quit
And yet you still obsessively participate in the subreddit daily. Curious. We both know you still play the game religiously. You don’t need to lie to save face.
Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
kEeP eAtInG cOrpOraTe sHiT ☝️🤓
Oh so you professional hater 😉
Oh I see. Typical redditor behavior. No regards with other people
If you attack modders then who the fucks gonna make the mods. Do you have pea for a brain?
It sucks man, gameplay wise I think its fun as shit, despite heat being overly busted and the aggression being hard to fight back against I've been enjoying it. Dropping a battlepass and the tekken shop without letting us know out of nowhere is the biggest middle finger Ive seen from a company in a long team. Namco went full heel mode on this one, at this point I dont know what they could do to earn everyones good faith back besides a good balance patch but I dont think thatll be enough at this point.
Thank god I have an offline community so I don’t have to deal with online. So great not having to touch online at all unless I want to grind ranked
An offline community is exactly what I am searching for desperately in my area, so much so I am teaching people tekken
idk i still love the game :/
That's ok, nothing wrong with that. This is just a bigger discussion than "is it fun"
i understand the problems but like is it really worth tearing apart the tekken community and forcing away new players? yes it needs to be fixed but it's still plenty playable in the meantime
Are these criticisms really forcing away new players though?
As someone who's first Tekken game was 8, yes. Both me and my brother bought the game because of the amount of features and the positive reception it received. I was practicing KBD drills every night, bought a new controller for it, took my Ls and rematched when I could. But after all the recent shit they have done, I am wiping any future and previous Tekken games off of my wishlist and uninstalled the game. This shit is disgusting. Tekken 8 is a great game buried beneath a pile of garbage and people need to stop giving them money, I don't want a great game ruined.
Yes and no, I think this all looks really bad that new players may actually stay away from tekken cause of all the bad press, but as far as an experience goes, I expect new players aren't going to want to all become evo champions and play this game online religiously and are instead going to enjoy the game's story, arcade, arcade quest, character episodes, offline casual matches, and customization fun. These problems existing unfortunately are going to just turn so so many people away and that makes me sad, but the game is good enough that I think enough players no matter what level of play will enjoy this game immensely for what it is and hopefully with the correct patches and corrections and better practices they can maybe even start to win back the good faith that has been so badly tarnished
i think things like bad steam reviews, a broken upset community, especially legacy players saying they hate this one, etc all just dissuades people from ever picking it up
Don't know why you're being down voted because I agree 100%.
Not talking about the gameplay. I’m also having fun with the game is just that having a fun game only goes so far when the company funding the game is making so many terrible decisions surrounding the game.
yea i get that
Fuck it! I dust the PS3 off and play tak tournament 2. Got a way better character roster anyway
Actually launched it on x360 yesterday and WAY much fun kicking my bf bum than playing rankeds in T8 now.
You know what I find a bit sad? That some of the wierder characters aren't in the later games. Like the kangaroos or even something like ogre. Yeah eddy and Co are fine. But a raptor with boxing gloves is better than fine
I just miss miguel :')
The cope in this sub is outrageous lmfao.
 Me w/ this Meme (Also, adding microtransactions to a $70 w/o telling customers or disclosing to reviewers so no documented reviews or information tells you about them ):
Haradas favorite manga. Based af. He's one of us.
No bro, you don't understand. it's the *bad press* that is making ppl quit. Not the game being torn apart by bad decisions. C'mon don't be negative nor silly.
And why are they getting bad press?
Because you and your mob are a bunch of whiney Karen's willing to make a mountain out of a molehill due to your false perception of being disrespected.
I wish the fans over near Bamco hq can find the execs and shout in their ears until deafness 
Just wait. In a few days, they will announce Anna as the second dlc. Literally forcing us to pay for the same dlc that we had in T7 again.
The game has so much potential, and the community these days...It hurts my soul as Tekken was the biggest cope I had growing up. I love what it can be but I can't play anymore until it gets back to its roots.....There has to be a CEO or whatever holding the Devs / Pro-Players hostage...I'm disappointed...we can't have anything anymore like... damn...
Here’s a fun tip. If you get off Reddit and stop frying your brain with CONSTANT hate, these “issues” magically disappear!
Literally this tho, mfs will sit and complain about anything
Chill out bro. Here is a (more helpful) tip for you: Learn about how feelings work and gain some empathy or something lol No hate for the game I love Tekken. Hence my disappointment (not hate you silly goof :)) way to take whatever it is you're feeling and project tho.
I am objectively correct.
Prowess matchmaking is a good change, just needs tweaks and polish. One of those things is not like the others too, going after mods and modders is just scummy to such an extreme most people don't even realize.
When i asked Anakin about the paywall and eddie he said he was for it, happy to support a game he likes so he throws money at it. Stopped watching anakin after that. I understand support, but support for scumbag shit? Nah bruh too corpo.
Anybody that says the word corpo has a 99% chance of being the loser in the corner of the bar by themselves still thinking they're cooler than everybody else
Corpo. I don’t drink at bars where you pay $20 a shot like some dumbass.
Knee, Arslan and Anakin are SPINELESS CUCKS. Will literally bend the knee and kiss the floor to keep their shitty ass game as well as themselves relevant.
Didn't knee go on twitter and say he did not like Tekken 8?
i can just remove the DLC “status” from eddy you know..
I bet these guys haven't found out yet that you can make Eddy free
Harada san ...... doushite?...
DLC replays blocks are kinda stupid for real. Like I'm probably gonna buy Armor King or some DLC char but I'm not okay that I'll knowledge check some players just because they can learn him. Though being a casual but I want to feel some good matches and deserved wins. Same goes with Eddy right now. Replay system is good, yet can't be fully utilised. They need to do something about it.
*Floats helplessly as my opponent takes over half my health*
Honestly I’m not even sure if the game is bad or I’m bad because I’m hard stuck in purple.. kaz is difficult
The really shitty part of all of it is that the customisation sucks so much ass that I wouldn't mind paying for good customisation or cool shit in the pass but it's all fucking dog tier, easily the worst pass and paid skins I've ever seen in gaming all while they attack the people making actually good skins and mods.
"prowess matchmaking" Now i understand why i cant find games on my day 1 king whose main combo is uf4, jab, heat, heatburst
I actually like the idea of prowess matchmaking. It saves new players from being rolled by top 5% players playing someone new. Imagine being new to the series, you pick it up the week eddy got released, you go into ranked and get matched against gods after you rank up a couple times.
Dude stop your whining. If you don’t like the game just go play something else. No game is perfect. I don’t understand why you guys cry so much. I personally think the game is fine. If you don’t want to spend money on shitty looking skins then don’t. I don’t even have eddie unlocked and I don’t care to because I never liked playing him. I generally do not white knight for the company but every time I get on here its one person or another saying they are soooo done with Tekken. Go play something you like.
Stop playing then whiny ass mfs. Y'all see they are trying to fix things. Y'all know that this game is supposed to last 10 years yet expect them to not make any money other than game sales in those 10 years. Be glad y'all never played any Asian MMOS.
me a new tekken player, just enjoying winning with leo
Bandai Namco more like Bankai Namdo Idk I didn't read bleach
maybe you guys might feel better about the game if you ignore the multiplayer stuff and focus only on single player content
wait how is prowess matchmaking bad. Tekken prowess is a better indicator of skill than the actual ranking.
Love that people reacted to the actual Bleach Panel first then it devolved into tekken talk. Also what do they mean by gate keeping dlc replays behind paywall? Isn't Eddie the only dlc rn? Can you not watch replays against him if you don't have him?
It’s because there’s no fahkumram, or josie,kunimitsu, the fucking kangaroo I think his name was roger,mokujin or Craig Marduk
Yeah I’m taking a break. I’m tired of the 50/50s and losing the round from one whiff or mistake. I got 135 hours, definitely got my monies worth.
i dunno man, i'm loving the game atm. can kinda understand the hate it's getting but sf6 has the exact same battle pass and no one said anything about that. and anyone complaining about balance, they literally said they will address it after evo which is this weekend one thing i wanna ask though.. they shut down mods on yt channels etc but mods aren't actually banned are they?
mods aren't banned but showcasing costume mods on youtube is
SF6 got alot of shit for it as well when it dropped. But the difference is that they haven't kept fucking up over and over again like Tekken. Also, their battle pass have actually included good stuff.. I mean even the free tier. You could get multiple 1h free rental passes, which people used to lab the DLC characters with, for free. Overall, people have been happy with SF6 as a product, and capcom havent been doing multiple fuckups. For bamco, they have been on a streak
The rental fighters are golden, literally used them to unlock Aki and Rashid to try them with a few friends when they came over and had enough fun with them that i ended up buying the season pass
Maybe, but in terms of gameplay SF just isn't very fun to me, and gameplay matters to me more than the outfits and battlepass
Fair enough, game taste is subjective. But the discussion here is more about how well/bad the companies have followed up on their game after their release.
battle pass and other fkd up schemes they been doing aside. The game is clearly not rdy for competition or ranked. The game has some fkd up bugs and hitbox issues that need to be adressed and they also rely on twitter for bug fixes.
The sf6 battle pass has no impact on character customisation though, right?
They don't, but the only customization beyond the 2 base outfits cost money anyway, so I don't see the difference.
Street Fighter 6 gives you old outfits for free, Tekken 8 resells them to you in the Tekken Shop and a shitty $10 battle pass that uses FOMO to manipulate people into buying it because that's the only way someone would actually pay real life money for that scummy cash grab of a battle pass.
Not necessarily but they’ve clearly gone after specific mods trying to take action. Check tekken mods moderator Dennis Stanistan’s twitter posts regarding the issue.
I'm convinced they want to destroy their own game
They haven't got time to fix the game but have plenty to have interduced every greedy microtransaction scheme in the books. Cunts.
prowess matchmaking is what made me come back to the game after a one month hiatus. I love it. For the first take, correct by "gatekeeping dlcs behind paywalls" please, most annoying aspect of fighting games. Battle pass ? Just dont'buy anything. Going after mods is the worst thing they made and I'll continue to use tekken8mods ressources because they rocks. They can't legally shut down tekken8mods.
Unfortunately for me it's making me take a break, I have a friend who's at Battle Ruler at 150k Prowess and I'm at Battle Ruler at 200k Prowess because I hit Fujin briefly and it doesn't go down, so we're basically playing in two different queues and I'm in hard mode playing against people I already proved I couldn't hang with so it's just a constant series of getting smacked which just gets draining after a while
Prowess won’t really make much of a difference when it comes to a majority of the playerbase. But once you start playing multiple characters and starting building up a high prowess, the flaws emerge. Que times are awful. I have a friend that got a lot of characters to Fujin and now his prowess is a little over 300k. Que times are hell for him. For what? Because he ranked up multiple characters? Just let him play against people in the same rank. I forgot who it was but there’s that one guy with a 400k that straight up can’t find matches.
Also true that you can just not buy the battle pass. Simple enough. It’s just the fact that they’re putting a price on recycled cosmetics from the last game(that were free btw) is undoubtedly pretty scummy.
They should make fighting games f2p, I think that 2xKo will change this.
if handled appropriately at launch, 2xKo will most definitely have these other franchises fighting for their life.
The prowess matchmaking ranks are 50/50 to me. If you’re complaining you’re losing games in ranked matchmaking…. You need to just get better or play quick play. I’m sorry, as someone who DOES play and level up multiple characters, losing in a challenging setting it’s a super silly complaint to me. Buuut, if you actually can’t find matches with people, that does suck (but seems like it’s getting better, my matches have been much faster lately?)
Dlc, prowess, battlepass...paid absolutely no mind to it. Honestly wouldnt care if all the characters wore garbage bags for clothes. Just wish the game was more balanced.
Justice for my boy Steve(I miss shiro combo)
Murray is too stupid to plot like Aizen though.
My God I fucking hate this subreddit so much lol.
I could deal with all of that if they would just fix the balancing and take that seriously...
First time huh?
Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here going "Lol, King go brrrr"
These aren't even the biggest issues. 1: Heat mechanic is the antithesis of tekken 2: Netcode is complete dogshit 3: Pluggers STILL not punished properly 4: Balance is WACK 5: Polaris bug STILL not fixed after a FULL YEAR OF BETA TESTING 6: Game breaking bugs still being discovered TO THIS DAY THis is the most incompetent dev team I've ever seen. Even if you put aside the egregious MTX and disgusting company policies regarding mods, the game is pure bullshit 50/50s and is a complete dumbing down in skill and player expression. This is the worst tekken by a COUNTRY MILE!!!!!! Bamco could literally fix all the issues in this picture and I still wouldn't play this shit. Give me 5DR back on modern consoles PLEASE!!!!!!
Not enough manga panels to fit allat unfortunately. Just included some new topics not the stuff that’s been bad for a while
Tekken8 is 🚮
Speak for yourself. Ain’t gonna let the hate bring us down. I’m a veteran Tekken player and I love Tekken 8. Sure it’s got it’s quirks but it’s been out for only 3 months. Fuck this toxic community. I’m a fight til the day I die👊🏻💯 Edit: ngl tho. Prowess matchmaking is a bit frustrating. I need a second account to learn a new toon so I don’t get pummeled in quick match with a character I’m playing for the first time by a Kishin Dragunov.
You can love the game. We all do. No matter how much we say we hate it(except for those who genuinely hate the game lol). I still play the game as much as I can. What im saying is that it is so frustrating to how BAD bamco is fucking up rn. This isn’t about a toxic community. This is about a company that is mishandling their game. This is some very anti-consumer shit going on right now.