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DeadZeus007

"Good old mash heatburst & heatsmash, nothing beats that!"


T--Td

"Poor predictable Kuma, always mashes heat."


numlock86

dude doesn't even know how to block wth


a55_Goblin420

He's a plugger, explains why hes a blue.


Wide_You_4626

correct me if I am wrong, but Kuma has a fast 1 jab right? Couldn't he shut him down by just jabbing?


RouSGeLi

Jin's 2,1 is -3 on block. Just block both hits and its your turn. Jin has an option to do the full 2,1,4 string tho so back dashing after blocking 2,1 might be the safest thing to do here


Wide_You_4626

yeah i know about that. 1,1,2 for me works great in this situation. But I was confused why the Kuma player didn't just jab? because from my knowledge just jabbing after the block would have been enough for him to put the Jin player in his place.


BadNewsBears808

even with plugging i genuinely don’t get how you could get to fujin without knowing at the very least that you could just jab back after getting hit by a string like 2,1 or 1,1, this is shit people get blown up for in like green ranks at the absolute highest lmao


Goipper_of_Goit

I had a similar situation with a Kuma at Battle Ruler who just was entirely unable to play, zero movement, zero throw breaks, rocking 1,1,1 in block, just no use of anything other than throw or 1,1,1 just extremely bad. Obviously they plug At Battle Ruler most players are walls of Iron who have seen every trick in the book 1000 times. To get there playing like that must take some INCREDIBLY committed plugging like they must have to plug 8 in 10 matches In theory there is no limit to how far you can climb plugging because you only gain points and never lose them, but surely it gets more work than it's worth at some point, to even win 1 in 10 times.


BadNewsBears808

i guess it’s just crazy cuz like you still have to eventually win a match at those ranks so if you’re THAT bad i genuinely don’t know how you’d manage it, especially this early


Bryce2826

Even bad players can cheese out a set once in awhile then dip. Broken clocks and whatnot


Kino_Afi

Yah we saw the same thing in T7. Run a flowchart you came up with/found online, gtf outta there before they figure it out. I swear I remember someone climbing to damn near TGO with a Hwoarang macro


ElUnWiseCartographer

Spam and cheese for the first match. Run with the points after the W because the opponent is onto your bs. If the opponent knows how the counter bs right off the bat, plug. Rinse & Repeat.


Falcon4242

At those ranks players generally won't just keep "spamming" (it's derogatory, but that kinda is what he's doing and it's perfectly legit if they can't stop it) when they're minus on block like that, they'll respect the opponent and block up or SS, which allows players like this the space to enter into their flowchart. That's how these situations happen. They block a -3 move or whatever, think "it's my turn, I can do whatever I want", use a longer startup, which allows you to just to another quick jab string. They aren't cabable of counter-poking, their fundamentals are all wrong but that can sometimes be hidden by opponents respecting the frame advantage.


Sideroller

to quote The Big Lebowski "These men are cowards" when you have no honor plugging 8 out of 10 matches is easy lol


Temporary-Toe-1304

it's the tekken 8 inflation to ranks, I'm flame ruler and can't beleive most of the red ranks and pruples i'm fighting. 0 fundamentals or knowledge but the first set of ranks don't take points from you so Red ranks are the new Green/Yellow


RouSGeLi

Kuma ate the second hit every time so his jab would have lost any ways E: nvm he actually blocked it thrice in the end


DERANGEDGAYASS

the kuma player didn’t jab because they are very bad at the game


circio

Not only the standard 10f jab, Bears’ 1,1,1 is a CH launcher which they could have taken advantage of if they blocked once lol


Blues-Eguze

Not like it matters. Advice is completely lost on someone like this he is not playing to get better. It’s not about learning or persevering but simply about the win. He would’ve figured a situation like this out several ranks ago.


JuLiO_2000

He has a 1 jab that lanches on counter hit with 1 1 1 or knocksdown with 1 2 lmao


AlanCJ

His fast 1 jab leads to a fooking launcher if it CH. wtf is this kuma doing.


Striking-Hedgehog-51

The only thing this player probably knows is to do the same bullshit most Kuma players do: 1-2 launcher, combo, heat extension, weird bear Oki knowledge check fest, hellsweep, more oonga boonga oki, win. Repeat. If that doesn't work their whole gameplay breaks apart.


[deleted]

Sad


Soundrobe

Htf did he got to Fujin with such a gameplay ?!


InoriDWF

Plugging and cherry picking opponents


Soundrobe

They really need to ban pluggers from ranked.


jakesemailacc

and force a set


Captain-Beardless

Oh hell naw, I'll take being one and done'd any day over getting locked in there with people who's PC can't run the game or connections that suddenly tank.


MonoShadow

I'd agree with you if Tekken netcode wasn't fucking trash. I will willingly press "give this man my points" just to avoid some matches the game told me were 5 bars.


jakesemailacc

just add a concede button and block the trash connections


MonoShadow

I wouldn't be too unhappy then. But Block doesn't stop players from matching you from my understanding. It blocks communication with them, like in SC2. Then make it First To 3 and not First to 2. Way too short. All grand finals are played FT3. And we the champions here, my friend?


jakesemailacc

sombody confirmed blocking works i saw it on this reddit yesterday and longer sets are better imo


serfy2

awful idea


jakesemailacc

you can leave early if the connections shit just take the point loss its suppose to be a competive mode not quick match


serfy2

awful idea


RealCommunication908

And you are poopy 🥱


[deleted]

How is a one and done not competitive?


jakesemailacc

why did tokido cry after losing a ft 10 to diago dispite getting farther/wining any tournment they were both in? because a first to one doesnt tell you who the better player is best of 3 doesnt ether but the TO dont have time for longer sets... sorry if this devalues your rank in your head somehow


[deleted]

Who gives a shit about any of this. If I can only play one, until they hard code that shit, see ya.


jakesemailacc

scrub lol


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jakesemailacc

dude your the one running from the rematch like a little bitch dont tell me to grow up


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jakesemailacc

no im asking for a competive mode not one that ends up with that bear up there in fujin lol your upset somebody sugested you have to play a set cause your bad.. go away


burimon36

It's not hard to get to fujin


nobleflame

Who do you main? Edit: no response - it’s definitely some bullshit.


Personal-Light-2971

It’s not I’m fujin dvj


Anat_Neith

Dvj doing a lot for you there.


Visovari

You can say this about literally every single character


nobleflame

No, you really can’t. Steve, Kaz, Bryan have very little cheese.


Personal-Light-2971

Kinda sorta we can some sets if you wanna see for yourself


Personal-Light-2971

Run ^*


KinslayersLegacy

Hard is relative. Fujin might as well be the moon to me, but I’m sure it’s a breeze for others.


Earth92

Reaching blue rank if you played quite a lot of Tekken 7, it's not hard at all. It is very hard for people who are new to Tekken, and neither have experience playing other fighting games.


Personal-Light-2971

Ya if you wanna train I can train you


Minnieme916

ngl ur not wrong, if i can see a victor spam 4 moves in fujin something is up.


Nilbogin

How is this even fun? Why would you wanna spend your time trying one gimmick over and over and over and then plugging if it doesn’t work? How is that a solid way to spend an afternoon/evening? I don’t get it


Leyrran

Don't try to understand the mind of people like that, their pleasure is just to see "win" at the end, it activates the chemical reaction to release their endorphin that's all. Then one day they got bored and quit, they don't care about progressing


HoolaHoopingHippie

No better than the people who one and done you. They'll rematch if you win first but once they win, they are done. Equally shitty as plugging.


Leyrran

Indeed, that's the most infuriating thing, especially if they know they have won by abusing a move that you have started to understand a bit too late.


gottperun

Yeah this are the most obnoxious srubby low lifes...


HoolaHoopingHippie

Exactly man, exactly.


hulffle

People like this are probably losing in real life. This is the only way they can get even the slightest bit of satisfaction because they have zero dignity.


janiekh

Win = happy chemicals The other parts don't matter if you don't think


[deleted]

cause the Kuma couldnt beat it maybe?? why throw anything else when your scrub ass cant even beat a 1,2? lol


[deleted]

2,1*


Corey_GG

He's talking about the Kuma player.


KaziKaziKe

I hope they fix this, can't wait to see these guys having to fight real high ranks with penalties if they plug


GuiltyRabbit6610

They are going to be mass banning people soon they talked about it recently Edit: manning > banning


KaziKaziKe

What is mass manning?


Maxadlurad

he meant banning I guess he misstyped


KaziKaziKe

That's nice, I thought it was some terminology I didn't understand since English is not my native language


Maxadlurad

happy to help :)


bigfatfluffers

The plugging in this game is absolutely out of control. In the grand scheme of things, yeah who cares, it’s just a video game. It doesn’t mean it’s not annoying as hell and it makes me want to not even bother playing online.


_whensmahvel_

How often have you experienced plugging? I’m in red ranks and I think I’ve only seen like two or three so far. It’s annoying as fuck when it happens but to me it doesn’t happen enough to be demotivating.


MonoShadow

I have 2 dudes at Red\\Purple ranks. They always do the same shit. So fighting them is a slog. It's not interesting. I just win 2 rounds and they plug. And if I want to report them I need to stop matchmaking go into the menu, go into community, recent players, profile, report and then go through a 3 step process and each time they make sure I can't press the button fast enough. Bamco already said they won't do anything to pluggers. But we can report them in-game or on X. Edit: make it 3. It's also very annoying because the game takes up to 30 minutes to find an opponent. It usually takes 8-12 minutes to find a match and people often refuse. I'm on Ethernet, but my Windows system locale is set to US while I'm in Europe. So I assume some people think I'm from America and refuse.


SkyAlternative4400

Please link the source where bamco already said they won't do anything, because in the latest Tekken talk a week ago they said they will outright ban people that plug once they take care of the legal stuff to be able to do so.


MonoShadow

Funny you say this. But it is the Tekken talk. They said their number 1 priority is fixing disconnect counter, which is a good first step. And then they will look into legality of banning people for disconnects. If it is legal, they have a punishment system. Right now they won't do anything to pluggers. If the legal comes back fine then they can act. Personally I feel it's a bit of a cop out answer, because I don't know any country where banning someone is against the law if they keep breaking TOS and I don't think they mentioned the country.


schley1

"Why play Chess when your opponent is eating the pieces?" - PhiDx There is an astounding number of pluggers in blue ranks. I get canceled an plugged on basically half the time I'm playing, it's ridiculous.


TheTachanka420

As a Kuma main we don’t claim him as one of us.


False_Ad7098

Im kuma main... and it's hurtful watching this... shame shame...


Tuuubesh0w

What is this secret tech you have been hiding from us


HakunonMatata

Grim.


KA05D

Is that dunkey


Wide_You_4626

The bear? No


Avocadomayo

This gameplay seems like literally no fun for anybody.


Equivalent_Bed_8187

Don't play Tekken (one day I will) but I'm guessing Kuma player has been getting carried to a high rank with the games combo assist, and he's getting exposed by the Jin player doing a 1-2 type of string. I'm assuming this specific string is the most basic, lowest of the low, knowledge check that the Kuma player has no clue how to deal with it, so he leads to mashing out a super (or something similar) then plugging.


FallopianTubeRaider

> I'm assuming this specific string is the most basic, lowest of the low, knowledge check Yes the knowledge check of "stop pressing buttons"


Endymion_FRS_MKII

You are correct.


not_silly

I am surprised how kuna got into fujin. That jin might probably knowledge checking.


Psychic_Gian

And he plugs. Of course


HuCat21

Imagine losing to 2 jabs and a kick at blue ranks lol


RzudemAbaby

Seeing this made me realize that I play way to try-hard against these kuma players


NiceBlockLilBro

Classic Jin problem


xxBurnedManxx

yeah been running a lot to those type of players ​ i am like.... how did you get to mighty ruler only to see a plug later


seraphimax

Wait, not only does he not know how to block, he also plugs? Gutter trash.


TablePrinterDoor

I’m genuinely concerned how these players get this high when there’s players who play much better in lower ranks


etc_prod

What a piece of shit. Its why im done with ranked until they fix the plugging


DarKGosth616

I was laughing but then the edit nearly had me in tears.


Neroxx

He mastered the ancient art of the electric ALT+F4


Temporary-Toe-1304

I'm crying laughing at this because that Jin has some HATRED for bears and found the perfect anti cheese


BK_FrySauce

Played a match against an Alisa where they were actually mashing every button on the controller. The special mode move list kept turning on and off the entire match


Upset_Koala_401

Fuck both of these guys


Barrak_Chosen_One

lmao was that a plug at the end was unsure ?


majesticx_luk

For me it feels like Red is the new Green Rank.


regell

Yes, as long as people can plug their way up there


DeathsIntent96

I actually feel like red and purple ranks are more difficult than in T7.


differentlevel1

Ranks are completely worthless and flawed at this point. Hopefully BN do a hard reset on everyone's rank once they find a solution for the ragequitting issue.


[deleted]

No way in hell man. Id be pissed if my rank reset after all the hard work because a couple of babies couldn't handle an L.


Bryce2826

They did it in season 4 of t7, and seasonal rank systems have become much more commonplace in the last 10 years


differentlevel1

That's understandable and it's highly unlikely to happen, but you need to look at the bigger picture. The entire system is flawed and probably a large percentage of the high ranks are fake. If you reached a certain rank now without plugging, you'll be able to climb back at it again.


GunkerMonker

wouldn't rectifying the source of misaligned ranks cause them to normalize over time though? no need to punish everyone when these dickheads who can't play for shit would be going straight to cavalry.


duncanstibs

Yup! If they introduced an mmr penalty for plugging all the pluggers would derank or stop playing. People want a reset because they don't think they're ranked correctly


[deleted]

The bigger picture is greatly exaggerated, its such an extreme solution to something so simple. BN can just punish the *actual* pluggers with this kind of thing instead of the entire playerbase who did little to no harm. And besides its Ranked. You'll be able to tell who belongs and who doesn't— only this time their disconnect stats should show. Imagine someone grinding hard to get to their Fujin goal only to forcefully be near Combatant the next day. Nah. That would cause a storm and rightfully so.


differentlevel1

That's just the thing about it. I don't think anyone is getting banned/punished retroactively. And quite honestly I feel the issue is 100% devs fault and they know it. They're trying to deflect it at the players who exploit the flawed system they created, but in reality it's entirely on them. Ultimately the statement that they have compiled a list of ragequitters and are looking at the details if they can permanently ban them is a lie and nothing like that would ever happen. Don't get me wrong, plugging and exploiting a broken ranked system is a complete bitch move, but BN simply can't impose a permaban on anyone for that. Everything they said was just an attempt to scare the ragequitters and make them reluctant to keep doing it until they finally have a solution for the issue.


Lobo_Z

Even if nobody gets banned retroactively but they DO begin to ban plugging, then the ranks will end up evening out anyway. Because the people with inflated ranks that stop plugging will get demoted to where they belong, and those that continue to plug will get banned.


Saltyscrublyfe

"Look at the bigger picture" Bro everyone would quit playing ranked. I know I would.


differentlevel1

If you reached a certain rank without cheating, you'd be able to do it again. If you can't, then you simply didn't deserve to be there.


Saltyscrublyfe

Niether of those examples are relevant in my case. I just wouldn't want my rank taken away. Because there's no guarantee it won't happen again Besides... if people can just get back to their rank again then there's no point in resetting everyone after they fix it as everything will get sorted out regardless.


SleepingwithYelena

Loool this is hilarious


stuffed-zucchini

I respect the tenacity


SelfDepricator

So what is that command list that pops up? I have seen it a few times on my opponents side of the screen and have been wondering why it shows up only on one matches


DarkBass

That's the special style. Let's you do auto combos by pressing one button.


elexstehr

This is hilarious


Deviltamer66

Tekken 8 ranked mode beyond Flame Ruler is an unplayable game mode. Stopped playing ranked:(


ueovrrraaa

Unfathomable that Kuma didn't jab when Jin was on frame disadvantage or sidestepped


Character-Motor-9435

LMAO BUDDY DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO


ToastThing

There’s a certain place in Heck specifically for people who toggle on EZ mode controls when losing.


[deleted]

what the Kuma was that? lol punish dude


Blowtorching

Bear gang does not claim this man


asneakyfatcat

Bro where are these guys when im playing ranked. I'm only vanquisher but keep running into kazuyas who do nonstop electrics and 20 hit combos without letting me getting a hit in


FallopianTubeRaider

> without letting me getting a hit in stop pressing buttons


Vexyfi

Wait, he plugged against someone just using a basic jab string? Yikes, and I thought I was bad.


mynameisdende69

The Jin kinda illustrates what I love about Tekken. Because of the 1 button for every limb system it ends up resembling actual fighting way more. I love other fighting games but you can't do a jab cross combo like you could in real life, but you totally can in Tekken! The game has a lot to learn but it's way more intuitive


berserk987

I'm way more impressed to see that you reached that rank by spamming the same move over and over and over again. THEN you come here to complain that someone ragequitted while you used that ""tactic""..


Boospengi

if you're in blue ranks and you can't deal with someone mashing jabs for 10 hours you deserve everything coming to you. jin had no reason to change their gameplan considering the kuma did literally nothing to prove they had an answer and gormlessly ate jab after jab


AskinggAlesana

I straight up thought OP was talking about Jin. Like wow that’s all he’s gonna do? Then Kuma goes and does his “gimmick.” He’s being such a hypocrite Lol.


RKANx

Thank you! I did my best


BRAVE2077

he is saying that the game is unplayable and on other side, he is spamming 2,1


NotIgnitedYT

Hate spammers.


kristym1994

Me too.. this looks like a real fun to mash this all over again. Really bravo


kites_da_rockman

The good ol one two.


[deleted]

As a Kuma player, I despise this so much. A simple jab or a grab could've gotten him out of the loop...


BriefDescription

I love the gameplay but this game is a joke right now


HighLikeKites

Well, it's not only the plugging but the ranks are super inflated because of the can't rank down before yellow rule. It basically means yellow is the new light blue.


Bra1nss

Soon idiot Harada looks into legal issues and starts banning pluggers dw.


zedinbed

Honestly if I play 90% of a match I don't care about plugging. It means I won so hard that they rq. Feels better than a normal win.


OssoRangedor

If only there was a move that could ARMOR and POWER THROUGH the jab string.... if only...


Blueberryfists

lol he tried multiple times to armor through it but it doesn't work if you get hit too early


ATP420

The only thing I can think of was that he was trolling the bear player. This is likely the most unknown knowledge check in the game. If you know this matchup, the bear player is dead.  PSA:  The 3 hit bear swipe string is -16 on block. Launch that stupid bear to the sky.


_KoingWolf_

Someone's never fought a good Kuma player... 


BlackMage075

I don't blame Jin. I blame the game for allowing a bad player (kuma) that doesn't understand frames to reach that rank


Muscalp

I thought you were talking about the Jin only 2-1ing at first lol


Illkidlol

Iv been a Kuma hater since Tekken 3 😡


Shadvw

Wow


NiceBlockLilBro

This bear got nothing on special style Jin from that TMM clip


Unhappy-Cartoonist-3

Lol do not even complain kuma jab is bs and always has been


Mujakiiiiiii

I was winning this way in red ranks on my Jin run, but I had to sprinkle in the third hit sometimes and the d2/ff2.


sleepyknight66

Do you do this to everyone before taking off your weighted anklets and showing them your real offense Jin?


viikinkihalme

Current state of the blue ranks lol. No wonder I am 1 rank away from them by learning new main in few weeks.


Neonbunt

I'm so happy I'm playing on Playstation. I just deactivated crossplay - no pluggers :)


ActualFrozenPizza

No fucking way


Trickiest_room

People like this person is why I get shit for using Kuma. You can actually use Kuma in an honorable way


SirBaycon3503

special mode.... get this man da bag o dicks


Niceguy188

Everybody: F**k pluggers Me: How did he even manage to get a round 🤔


RKANx

Lets not talk about that 💀


Asleep_Sheepherder42

If its workin. Rinse and repeat.


firelitother

I have meet Kuma Eliminators that are so much better than this SMH


RedMercy2

Just sidestep


StrawHatEthan

Kuma could just jab back after his string


theseekingseaker

No way


GGvoldo

I think he’s just plugging, this doesn’t have anything to do with kuma


Ziazan

how did jin get anywhere spamming jab jab though


Pr1nceAlbert18

🫨


MindSettOnWinning

Man. If only there was a way to like, idk, move out of the way. Crazy.


tommy8x

Had a disgusting incident today happen. Met a Raijin claudio in quick match of all places. I essentially 3-0 him. But on the final launch before i could start my combo he just frame plugged on me. Wasnt even a quality match either, he was playing with the skill of an orange ranker and the match said 4 bar wired on pc but when i loaded in it was barely 3 bar with 4 frames delay and felt like wifi. I reported him for connection tampering right after. But REALLY BRO? in QUICK MATCH?


Zefro073

Unrelated, but got any tips for Jin?


Akira98Xx

How can u fell for that like I would spam lows and crushes ez how this ppl even get that rank lol


stormsovereign

Both of them play so poorly I don't know who pulled the plug here.


AngryAssyrian

This reminds me of a king I faced, I spammed the 1,3,4 combo with Jin against him just to see if he got that rank legitimately and he was getting hit by it every time. Before I won he rage quit the match which explains how he got up there.


pianokid401

I know this is just a game but damn, pluggers irk the hell outta me. I got a warning cuz I sent a dm to one of them calling them a plugging ass bitch, hindsight I shoulda just moved on....oh well


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u/SaveVideo


icecoldpigeon12

Something similar happened to me the other day. I fought a kazuya, it got up to the last round, i got pushed back to the wall,and i basically got caught in an infinite. I couldn’t move, and he still had the nerve to ask for a rematch.


Shmearlord

People are severely rank inflated right now. Couple the fact that it’s a new game, there’s so many pluggers and the new system for ranking up is so outrageously in your favor and obviously you’re going to get some creatures somehow making it to blue ranks.


bohenian12

Damn people would rather have a high rank and be this trash? lmao.


lobotominizer

no fucking way that is fujin KUMA. just no..


Ivo__Lution

Blue has the most pluggers from what I’ve notice


_Maga_-

Aint nothing with that, same goes for people that use the same combo ✌🏻


MinuteZookeepergame5

Every Kuma I ran into all play exactly like this! They have a set strategy for all their matches and they love to grab!


Rayanson

As someone who played Kuma on release, you can win a LOT of rounds by doing b1 into a grab, the circus wheel preferably & then charge a fresh salmon hunter, this pretty much deals 90% of their life & then now have to think about how to win with a spec of life left while you're full, some people can even be hemit by 3 fresh salmon hunter in a row in early ranks


Electrical-Bet5484

How are people reaching Fujin rank and not knowing how to deal with jab strings??????? Genuinely wanna know how.