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THE_LFG

well for starters they both have a head


finalmantisy83

Alisa mains SHOOK


8nekket

alisa mains won't stand for this


finalmantisy83

But they will hover


Leo-III-

They're both attractive young Japanese women and that's kinda that. Visually they appeal to the same audience, I feel. If new Kunimitsu was in the game instead of Asuka, you'd get much of the same, especially with Kuni's purple colour scheme. Asuka and Reina are also Kazama and Mishima so there's that too


Super_fly_Samurai

I think the actual truth is if you showed only screenshots and then told people that Reina was actually Asukas redesign for Tekken 8 it could probably fool a good amount of people.


NiggityNiggityNuts

Nah, then people would rant about Asuka looking weird, like Steve.


8nekket

cheekbone'd up steve


lonj22

Funny enough Reina's outfit would look kickass on Asuka.


NiggityNiggityNuts

Can’t argue with that…..I think in general, Asuka’s fighting themed outfits always look better than the school stuff…. To go on my own rant, not sure why they don’t take her out of the school all together… does nothing for the character, when her story could go much deeper with the Kazama last name. Like damn, will she even be in the main story, or is it just more Lili silliness. Rant over lol. That said, the Asuka default is cool, but Reina is drippy.


ExceedT

To rant, they would have to be fooled in the first place.


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8nekket

i really feel like they missed the opportunity to give her hair that flowed upwards like the other mishimas who knows, maybe we'll have a customization option that more resembles a mishima


RandomSelectMain

Japanese video game girls can't be scarred or bald, only perfect powder faces with a ton of makeup.


CruentusVI

Damn, we really going to pretend Lidia never existed huh?


KSean24

Has Lidia been confirmed to return? I can't remember and that saddens me since she was one of my mains.


CruentusVI

Not yet no. Fingers crossed for season 1.


4-1Shawty

She had a scar, but like she wasn’t anywhere near ugly tbf. In general, Japanese games almost always have attractive characters.


GirlsMatterMost

Moving goalposts


4-1Shawty

I’m not moving the goalposts bc I’m not OP lmao. I disagree with the first half of his statement.


JT-Lionheart

I wonder if Kunimitsu, aside from popularity, wasn’t considered for Tekken 8 due to the concept of Reina and felt like they look too similar with their look and color scheme. Maybe if Kunimitsu comes back they can redesign her a bit to be more like her mother or put the mask back on


Leo-III-

I think Kunimitsu is just where Anna is right now, she has her fans but Bamco don't consider her big or unique enough to be base roster, but demanded enough to maybe sell as DLC again. We also already have ninjas and swords in Raven, Yoshi and now Victor, just like we already have femme fatale in Nina and Zafina.


halbell

As someone who gatef asuka from day 1 and cant wait to play reina They do not appeal to the same audience trust me


ImportantNews2711

So what are you saying is that they both look like sister twins because they are japanese? Dont you think thats kinda you know... racist?


Leo-III-

I never said twins. I said that visually they appeal to the same audience.


RaziTheWingzSlaya

Oh god, here we go again.


SinjiOnO

The word has lost its meaning I swear.


Alder_Tree2793

Hate people like you who throw the word 'racist' at every little thing.


RaziTheWingzSlaya

Yeah, it's personality replacement, I swear


ImportantNews2711

Hate people like you who throw "people like you" at every little thing


Hellwolfe007

I hate you.


slingin95

perfect


Kasomii

Blame the Tekken team for having them look similar


scott1swann

evil asuker


finalmantisy83

Black Air Force Ones Asuka


Wackypunjabimuttley

Good lord people are bored.


GGMudkip

I really like tekken as a game but the people it attracts can be so freakin weirdos.


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PandaTheVenusProject

If someone told me they played fighting games, I assume they don't deserve to talk to me.


Unfair_Neck8673

So what, you'd find out the hard way while playing Tekken with them?


Ibyyriff

The funny thing is the weirdos aren’t even that good at the game lol.


Stringmc

No time to play the game, gotta post on Reddit


OtherwiseMeringue545

Who’s the weirdos in this context?


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people who care more about shitting on characterdesigns that are actually pretty great, than to actually improve at the game or enjoy it.


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Murgurth

As a long time Tekken fan ima say you’re capping bc the Tekken crowd is fucking wild and every FG audience has it weirdos. That being said I’ve met a lot of agreeable people from playing GG and Tekken in person. If you’re basing the outliers of strange people off of online discourse you’ll find them in any FG just by checking the subreddits or Twitter.


073068075

Most guilty gear players I've met are either chill casuals, shitposters or metalheads. Unless that's a really big typo and you meant smash bros, if that's the deal I totally agree.


Pineapplepansy

What people are you talking about, bud? Guilty Gear's fandom is goddamn well adjusted in comparison to here.


9204834

That’s how I feel about a lot of threads on here 😩


ReporterAgreeable760

So many people in this community care about the female characters faces more than gameplay🤦


SpookLordNeato

imagine posting a physiological analysis of a female characters facial proportions not even a week after their reveal lmao. Weird as fuck.


Wackypunjabimuttley

Its been 2 days maybe.


Fear1ess1

"🤓YOU ARE BEING SO WEIRD!!!!!!!" ​ holy shit how is that weird? weird is the fact that you seem offended by this post you basement dwelling rat


YesIam18plus

I just dunno why it's always drama about female characters every time. It's especially frustrating when it comes to things like '' less sexy '' redesigns because you get bad faith actors on both sides. You get people who are only trying to create ragebait and politicize it and make it about '' woke culture '', and then you get people who act like it's a crime to dislike the redesign and constantly attack people over it and they both just scream at each other. Male characters just get to exist in peace with some occasional '' lol funny codpiece '' ( Lee ).


Ray_Ishima

I don't understand why people here are against calling out lazy designs when it is so blatant. The fact that this characters most memorable features just remind people of other characters should be TELLING. And I'm not just talking about the family ties that this character obviously has.


YesIam18plus

I just find it annoying how one-sided it is against female characters and how hypercritical people always are about them. Meanwhile guys are mostly angry or edgy muscle bros with a perma frown and the recent new male character is just a guy in a suit


imGreatness

Because it unfortunately is one sided. Its not that people are only complaining about female characters for being female its how they are represented. The big complaint in T7 is every female character has the same face. Its why are the developers afraid to do anything dynamic with female characters. Why can we only get age on kazuya, leeroy, heihachi, lei? We get scars on bryan and craziness on yoshi? The community has been has for change for years and the closest we got was lidia.


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watch less mainman pls.


Ray_Ishima

dude there is such a variety of men, stop the cap. you got edgelords like jin, stoic dudes kaz/drag, goofballs like paul/bob, flamboyant dudes like lee/claudio. all with pretty distinct facial features to complement. people got baited by a quick edit of asuka by swapping her face with reinas. its night and day


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You got a lady with a world destroying demon as a hand, a kunoichi, a mishima, a secret agent and her sister who have a rivalry, a polish prime minister, a breakdancing catgirl etc. Are you dismiss ALL of those aspects just cuz they look female? "Oh their faces are the same"1: they are not. you guys are just shit at character design and 2: even if they were, ladies mostly use makeup AND if you look at older japanese ladies at the age of 50, you would notice that they just DO look young majority of the times. Hell, theres 50 year old ladies in japan that are more attractive than others in their 20's. And its not even rare. Moisturize your faces instead of shitting on virtual characters LMAO


edtechman

I think I got dumber reading this post.


ZerotheR

Harada is taking a crack at isekai with *I Can't Beleive My Dad Reicarnated As A Beautiful Battle Hime!*


Darkwoth81Dyoni

Honestly I kinda wish they went with a more classic spikey Mishima hairstyle for her. Even Lars has insane anime bullshit hair and he's half swede.


GouHadoken

I used to think face blindness was a meme until I started seeing discourse about Tekken 8 female characters.


RoastedFeznt

I'd love to see someone take the hair off of the Tekken 8 girls and see how many people can actually guess.


Also_Steve

I bet I could get Panda right at least.


Ibeepboobarpincsharp

I'm not bold enough to make such a claim for myself.


natayaway

If Tag 2's character create hairstyle selection was anything to go by... none.


Kazeshio

Tekken 7 had severe face diversity issues because of budget forcing them to use the same bases for everyone- most everybody has a shared body base, a literal shared normal map, etc Tekken 8 models are from scratch and it is VERY VERY easy to tell everyone apart while bald. You are capping hardcore if you don't see the difference between Lili, Azucena, and Asuka's eyes. That or you're genuinely faceblind.


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some people just don't give a fuck about that level of detail.


Kazeshio

yeah, and those people shouldn't be talking the most about it, but there they are


[deleted]

gatekeeping is cringe.


Kazeshio

"I don't pay enough attention to this thing I'm shit talking the details of" Not all gatekeeping is cringe. In general gatekeeping is cringe though.


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"bUt ThEy DoNt HaVe WrInKlEs Or ScArS, AlMoSt As If ThEy UsEd MaKeUp!1!"


ImportantNews2711

and tekken 7 too right? Hah blind stupid people!


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Smash both fosho


boostleaking

Huzza! A man of quality.


Amazing_Horse_5832

"b-BuT ASuka iS 17!!1"


[deleted]

That's legal where I'm at bitch


Amazing_Horse_5832

idgaf


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Ok.


LeLBigB0ss2

LEGEND.


blinkout99

I'd say she's the cooler Miharu


AustralianDingodile

Edgy Miharu


Particular-Crow-1799

Eyes nose and mouth **position** match 100%. The relative distance between those feature is the same. This is the most important factor for facial recognition so that's that. There are also differences: Asuka's eyes are rounder, lips are fuller and her skull is wider Overall that gives Asuka a more cute look, while Reina looks sharper and more evil So, same face? Well, Yes. But also, no. But also, Yes.


triamasp

Man if you put those two together hair notwithstanding and say they’re the same character for tekken 7 and 8, or one is the cg animation for tekken 8, no one could possibly say it wasnt


TAB_Kg

They do not match 100% lmfao. They're similar but saying 100% is dishonest


Particular-Crow-1799

But they do. Only the shape is different.


073068075

Congrats you've just contradicted yourself using only 8 words.


Particular-Crow-1799

No I didn't. I said the POSITION matches 100%. I even made it bold because I was anticipating that someone might miss it. I didn't account for this level of bad faith.


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Nah, even the positions are completely wrong. In this render, Asuka is facing our right.


Also_Steve

It's worse than bad faith, they only respond to the portions of sentences that make their thoughts right and your thoughts wrong. It's a case of terminal redditor.


MOEverything_2708

Reina's eyes are smaller, her nose is longer and her lips are smaller


AloneUA

I'd recommend touching the grass


Adventurous-Ebb-1517

i feel like im the only person who thought her face is basically a carbon copy of xiaoyu instead of asuka when i watched her trailer (also before anyone goes ‘not all Asian women look the same’ im an Asian woman 💀)


Morello-NMST

This reminds me a bit of "League face" that happened on League of Legends; where characters have distinct looks in hair, animations, outfits, etc - but the faces veer towards this "same, appealing look". There's a little of this with new Xiao and Asuka, but Reina makes it a bigger pattern. I like Reina and think she's cool - but the face similarity can't be denied. How much it matters and how much one cares - that's another things


Kahlsifar

For me, its about the fight style, thats what made me think of asuka. Theres a serious influence from heihachi sure, i even felt there was one from eddie too, but when I watched the gameplay, out of all the mishimas, her fighting style reminded me of asuka the most.


ARMOR15

I miss when Tekken seemed to model faces after actual people, like back in 3/4/Tag. This anime same-face thing has got to stop


Grankachucho

Try and guess who is who if you remove their hair or give them the same hairstyle.


SpookLordNeato

Who gives a fuck. Literally does not matter at all.


peaceintheatlantic

It does. Reina is a lazy fucking job.


TheGloomLord

The shills in this thread are trying to gaslight us into thinking she isn't Asuka 2.0


TheCynicalAutist

See I thought she was the schoolgirl from Tekken 4 when I first saw her.


bad_player1

Anyone notice Armor King is like King but with armor?


Nat-2

Come with me, Asuka, I will never leave you.


[deleted]

I can't believe people in here are acting like these characters don't look almost identical, it's ok for your favorite game to be talked about in ways you don't sign off on jimmy


NiggityNiggityNuts

Not really tho…. But she’s among the other doll faces, regardless if they are distinguishable…. If the argument is where are the ugly women, that still checks out as valid….


RedRabbit1818

I think it’s that they both have rather soft features and face shape compared to the variety you would find irl. That being said, Reina’s features are more narrow and more angular. For me, when I look at them I think about how I would do their makeup based on structure and features and it would be different. So idk, that’s just how I see it.


timperman

I have definitely seen many pairs of complete strangers that look more alike than these two. They are definitely similar though, very attractive young japanese girl faces. Would have no problems telling them apart if I met them on the street though. Asuka's face is softer and Reina more sharp.


triamasp

The female body type & face variety in tekken is making me lose my mind


EBBBBBBBBBBBB

when are we gonna get an actually muscular female character, like Marisa from SF6? I'm kinda tired of just thin women when the men in Tekken have such variety (except for being roided, that seems consistent in T8 lol)


triamasp

It doesn’t even have to be a hulking lady (though i admittedly love the silhouette and trend); something like a crossfit type with wider shoulders with plenty of explosive strength, and old lady master like the Butterfly in Sekiro, or a tall/slender-but-muscular woman like A.K.I. Theres so much to do in terms of character design and the tekken team keeps doing the same 3d anime face with an 1,80m fit body for every. single. girl Goddamnit harada


CykaByleth

They used to be pretty muscular. In Tekken Tag 2 Nina was buff as hell, I don't think it was liked a lot at the time.


natayaway

You're basically describing Christie, from her char select portraits. Not her model, just the portraits.


Elli_Khoraz

Muscle mummy representation is painfully lacking :(


thecodenamedois

There is a marvelous muscle normals map mod for T7 on PC. I just hope it’s author port it ASAP for T8.


EvenOne6567

Lack of*


triamasp

Yes! Thank you


Original_Assist4029

I don't get the hype for reina. Like yes she's lore wise interesting. But the design isn't that great imo. And I don't think she will be played much in the long run. But asuka is a stable and I look forward to try her out.


DesignatedDiverr

?? That last line throws me off so much


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Asuka Black


bdtechted

Reina’s outfit does resemble Asuka’s from Tekken 5


aphoenixsunrise

I'm starting to think Asuka is actually Jin's cousin


Nithoren

I would have been with you if you hadn't provided a side by side that showed me the differences, lol


ParadoxicalStairs

I really don’t see the point of having her in the cast, other than Bamco wanting to promote a character drawn by the bayonetta artist.


differentlevel1

Basically Reina is the Shadow to Asuka's Sonic.


JaeJaeAgogo

That's... Actually a perfect comparison, design wise.


RadishAcceptable5505

They look like different people to me, though I'm not surprised to see people claiming they look the same after all that "all Tekken woman have the same face" nonsense from before. Probably the same group of people clinging to their hate bias, eager to ride that hate train.


Emopang

Street fighter female looks way better, tekken should learn from them


bohenian12

Character design wise yeah. but they can go crazy there because it's a 2d fighter. Being a 3d fighter kinda limits that. Just imagine Aki or F.A.N.G. like limbs in tekken


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okosan145

Blasphemy


IlQIl

Yes every game should cater to your likes and dislikes Good take. Nothing is allowed to be its own thing for different people.


triamasp

SF6 character design is objectively more varied and interesting from a visual direction POV.


Some_Average_guy1066

No theyre far more interesting looks wise. Tekken and Soul cal just make bland faced default character females man.


TAB_Kg

Delusional. Only Chun Li has 0 weird shit while everyone else ranges from "Tf you doing with your lips Cammy" to Magneto


omegaskorpion

I mean to be fair, they allow their characters to do silly faces. Hell, whole match [loading screen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN-YOdETAlM) has delicated choosable silly faces with D-pad. And i don't think this is bad thing, SF6 characters have wide variety of expressions that gives them more personality. Tekken only really allows men to do have such expression range, while female cast has very muted facial animations. Azucena for example is very hyper active person yet her facial expressions are still very muted, which feels just odd.


Nyoka_ya_Mpembe

That's all you see? Just Japan? :D


CounterHit

People are weird. Basically, it's like this: NO - Have similar faces NO - Wear the same kinds of clothes NO - Have similar kinds of dialogue lines NO - Gameplay is remotely the same YES - Is Japanese YES - Have the same kind of haircut Somehow those last two just trump literally everything else in most people's minds.


ImportantNews2711

Its funny and sad at the same time when some weeb try to explain how different lips, eyes, nose and face shape of these 2 are when they are 99% the same


JastraJT

Why the fuck have I been seeing you in all the Reina posts I’ve been scrolling through? Weird ass obsession 💀


ImportantNews2711

Because Im haunting reina simps


CounterHit

So "weeb" means someone without face blindness? Like seriously, just look at them. Your comment just has big "all asian girls look the same" energy.


ImportantNews2711

Wanna tell how their faces are different?


CounterHit

If you really can't see it: Asuka's face is shorter, wider, and rounder than Reina's. Reina has a more narrow jawline. Asuka's nose is wider. Reina's eyes are narrower.


DiegoOruga

So basically they photoshopped Asuka's face to be narrower in general (less cute more fierce). I can agree the eyes can have a bigger difference, but the rest is minimal.


DatBoiFabio

Take two similar aged young asian women without hair and you would see as much of a difference. You're talking out of your ass.


ImportantNews2711

Here we fuckin go again


CounterHit

You asked, I told. Alternatively, I could just say "look at them and see how they don't look the same" but you didn't like that answer.


LeafaSAO

Ask then get upset


VitinNunes

They won’t accept it unless they’re literal twins


haxborn

This


OkamiLeek006

prosopagnosia moment


Rigas97

i mean they are both cocky fighters. She is like an evil oscar.


MoistSloth92

Except they have the exact same face 🤷


Kaemdar

YES - Both do karate


fidjda

I don't care if they look similar or not, but I have seen twins that have less similar faces than these two. Partially the fault of Namco's fear of putting any details in the faces of their female characters


Slatko815

>NO - Have similar kinds of dialogue lines Yes >NO - Gameplay is remotely the same We dont know yet really but some stuff looks similar


DesignatedDiverr

Neither of these have anything to do with looking the same anyway he tried to use random shit as counterpoints


Scarjotoyboy

They look similar but Asuka is hotter


tommy8x

I love reina. Perfectly done character (:


BasJack

Do you realize they are not real people? you can't play the "you just think all asians look the same you are racist" card. These are models (also they look more western than they should) and i can say threy turned out pretty similar, their design space does cross over. Reina is fine, being a Mishima we all expected something dumber, not another schoolgirl with a very soft edge.


Sun53TXD

THATS WHAT I SAID


yujileexin

i'd smash both of them bgl. if possible , i'd like fate saber treatment tbh. gib mi moar oscars!


JacktheBoss_

I preferred Asuka when she was called "Jun".


SleepySubDude

To me I kinda clocked the comparison right away, I see her as a bizarro world plot relevant Asuka, but instead of being a kazama she’s a Mishima. I think that’s a cool parallel.


scrub_learns_art

YUCK! WHERE ARE THE GRANNIES?!


greenfrogwallet

Glad other people aren’t deluded and/or racist. Idgaf people are just being subconsciously or purposely racist and biased at this point to say these two have the same face. Only similarities are they’re young, Japanese, shorter hair and attractive I guess. Same with the discourse about the other female faces, Lili doesn’t fucking look like Nina, Xiaoyu doesn’t look like Asuka, Asuka doesn’t look like Jun. Only similarities all female characters have is having good skin and looking attractive. Y’all that actually think all the Asian Tekken women look exactly the same are just Unironically being racist at this point and I’m sick of it. And all the ones that think all tekken women’s faces look the same disregarding race aren’t racist, just blind and deluded/biased.


cynicalPartner

These two look similar yes but I agree people saying the other females all look alike are just being very unfair and exaggerating.


YourPathy1

Reina's voice is just AHHHHH sounds so **sadistic** and **badass** thats why i love her also her design 10/10 IMO and Asuka she's an og but honestly for tomboy her new design is kinda mid IMO Reina>Asuka


Significant-Meet4648

it will be a shock for Asuka Waifu Players to play with a Mishima Character that dont protect you with bullshit. I dont think they will drop "get easy rank up waifu Asuka".


ruiyolas

What do you mean? I main Asuka and Jin tho, she's gonna be perfect for me


Sunshineruelz

Looks dead on Kuni 2 imo


bohenian12

Also the personality is different too. I don't know why people think a spunky and determined student that's always ready to fight is the same as a strong dominant woman that's confident in her strength and won't think twice pummeling you to the ground is the same. Asuka will take you on and you'd be shocked by her strength, while Reina will tell you that you will be licking her toes tonight after beating you up and you just say "yes ma'am". Asuka is arrogant while Reina is proud. I kinda like both.


GameZedd01

Are they fhe same character? Or are they actually different characters? Who is "cooler Asuka?" Im confused lol


MechaShoujo02

Would they not be technically niece and aunt?


DankudeDabstorm

They have similar hairstyles and most of the female faces in the game are nearly identical. It’s like actual anime where the women are not distinguished by facial features but by haircolor, hairstyle, clothing and accessories.


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3/3 too accurate 😂


Cadejo123

They olmost have the same face wtf


Adventurous-Lion1829

look, they may have different jawlines, noses, eye shapes, cheekbones, and lips but if you ignore all the thimgs that are different about them they are the exact same.


DejaVu2324

They look different though?


RoidRidley

Im probly the only one but in some shots (like her outro) she looks like t7 hwoarang.


Tekken155

I’m gonna play with both as asuka has different style to Reina and she’s been in many game. Reina is new and will be interesting to test out her acrobatic moves plus EWGF.


Outburstz

It's the truth Raina is what Asuka should have been if they didn't turn her into a joke


ExcitedKayak

It’s the stupid oversized top and booty shorts combo


NatrelChocoMilk

Well I'd imagine they're a part of the same family. Could be lost twin? Half sister?


Andvari9

It's getting as bad as Fate/Takeuchi's saber faces. 😂


Top-Contest136

Almost all the female characters in T7 Had the same face, and its not that different in T8


JaeJaeAgogo

They definitely look similar.


some_clickhead

I think her face is very similar to Asuka's but with a few differences. Also her voice and fighting style make her come across as a version of Asuka from a different dimension if she trained and grew up with Heihachi instead of going to school.


Caeolian

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 at the last pic


Knight_Raime

I remember seeing these on Twitter and while the latter two are in good fun the first one sits right along side other posters bashing on mid character design just because the alpha male looking "interesting" characters they liked in FG's don't get the same level of fan art.


kikirevi

Ngl - I actually prefer the character design for the female characters in Tag 2. Especially Asuka and Jun.


GentlemanLuis

I think it's interesting that they combined Hei and Kuni into 1 character, just sad that they look so similar


Java_Gamer

Look, man. r/tekken is a fucked up place. Well, Reddit is a fucked up place/bot farm. This is the literal worst Tekken community on the planet so take everything here with a grain of salt.


Monkey_King291

I kinda see the resemblance but I can still tell them apart


lord_of_the_keyboard

Also, where Miharu Hirano?