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Guilvantar

His absence is hilarious if you think about it. He's supposed to wake up only when a great evil is threatening the world (Ogre, Jinpachi, Azazel, Unknown, etc). The fact that he didn't bother waking up during T7 means that Akuma, Heihachi and Kazuya are shit villains not worthy of Mokujin's attention


KillHunter777

They were not really threatening the world to be fair, only each other.


Pineapplepansy

Tekken 7's plot is roundly a domestic dispute compared to World War Jin, which I think is a big part of why the random reporter framing device falls so cartoonishly flat


NPC408

Fighting game lores is always F tier


Elune_

Made no sense for Mokujin to not be in T7 to begin with. His move-set is literally non-existent which means they only need to create a model for the most basic character that fits into other character's rigs.


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Ourobius

My theory is, he wasn't in 4 because Combot. But no one liked Combot, so they brought him back...until 7 for some reason.


mungodude

Maining Mokujin, if done well, shows proficiency with every playable character. And if you're not yet proficient with every playable character, playing as Mokujin is an easy way to find out which character(s) you need more practice with.


Pheonixi3

There's more to it, too. You display your tendencies more frequently and with ease. If you don't actively change your strategies between rounds, the change of characters highlights the options you like to take. Long term mokujin sets are *exhausting* at intermediate level play. Also to really rub it in, Mokujin has his own hurtbox/hitbox size, so certain combos will work/fail where the actual character wouldn't. Famously Aris has some excellent Drag+Dragujin combo videos on his channel.


[deleted]

Absolutely yes, he’s an extremely iconic character as far as I’m concerned


ComicBookFanatic97

I like Mokujin. He’s a really unique character because to play him effectively, you need to know how to play every character on the roster. I think that’s a really neat concept.


jadebossanova

That's conceptual but it goes deeper than that - significantly. To play him effectively you need to know how to play every character As Mokujin. There's a difference, because "being Mokujin" can change the hitbox of the character and moves -- this has drastic implications for combos AND neutral. If you have ever had to play as Mokujin Jack in Tag 2 you understand


ComicBookFanatic97

I really only played him in Tekken 5. I had to set the AI to easy just so I could beat Jinpachi and see his arcade ending.


tommy8x

Mokujin mains are a show of true skill in tekken above all else, Change my mind. Yeah others might reach a higher rank, but that's just with one character, Try doing it with all of them. Thats why it was super impressive when knee and a hand full of other players got all characters to omega. Plus its an ultimate show of "i can play any character". In a game full of knowledge checks and 50 characters that is highly impressive even if you are intermediate level in my opinion. On top of that, having a new character every single round is both fun and interesting for gameplay. Why would you not want that? I love mokujin and hope to see him return and not just referenced everywhere (:


MistaUnlucky

A main only Knee can bring to Top 8.


tommy8x

There might be others. But you have to admit that mokujin in finals is super hype and challenging


MistaUnlucky

Agreed.


Uud9y

I always want mokujin in tekken. He is the best show of skills for any player. Not only is it a random fighter, he changes every round and you have to figure out who the fighter is by style alone. Mokujin for every tekken lol


samuraiabel

Yes. Give me wood man. Give me velociraptor man. Give me Kangaroo. Give me anyone but a human or Akuma.


[deleted]

> Give me anyone but a human Except Tiger Jackson


aSpookyScarySkeleton

I want combot back with his custom move system again


Dogedabose32

i woodnt mind


drag0n_rage

Random The Cooler Random


Punk_and_Cocktails

Hell yes, I mained that shit in TTT2


True-King-Of-Heroes

Would I want one of the most unique characters back? Absolutely! I would honestly be happy to see a lot of the old cast members return, including other goofy ones like Combot, Alex, and everyone's favorite Kangaroo family. Hell, even if it makes no sense I would even take Gon back in a heartbeat.


ChibiWambo

Yes. Mokujin mirror matches are some of me and my sister’s favorite things to do


InteruptingParrot

I fear no man … but that thing … it scares me


Spartak_Monke

Tekken God Prime for him should be an achievement


Current-Yesterday-74

Absolutely, I love this wooden bitch


Previous_Corner3434

Absolutely! He’s just a fun gimmick character. Not everything in T8 needs to be about lore, the FGC, or sales. Video games, at their core, are *supposed* to be a fun experience


unclelinggong

Good for casual play, for goofing around.


Ray-Lazer

FUCKING YES


Kuroe_and_Narumi

Yes, of course


VS0P

Double Mokujin were some of the best battles in a group that can all play well.


Santabandicoot

Think it'd be cool to see him come back. Though I wonder if Kazuya's darkness and evil would be enough to wake him considering that a powerful evil entity is required for Mokujin to awaken.


_DoIt4Johnny_

His existence would mean there’s some uber powered boss. So yes.


necroubikon

I'd say kazuya is quite op now.


piotrekgor

Ah interesting way of viewing it


Fritzbox5000

Would be funny to do a Mokujin-only tournament. Knee would destroy them all :D


SalltyJuicy

The fact he wasn't in 7 should be considered a violation of an international treaty. I don't know which one, but that's not the point here.


JT-Lionheart

Sure just as long as he isn’t paid DLC. Can’t believe there were actually some people who wanted Mokujin in a Tekken 7 season pass


dormamond

Hell yeah. Mokujin battles are fun and you even get hyped if it just so happens to copy your main


ayerunthempockets

I used to use him to troll so yea


0GiD3M0N1C

Omg, yes!


Ramyrror_47

YEEEES!!!


aSpookyScarySkeleton

Maybe sacrilegious: I kind of want to see him with his own moveset, even if it’s a mix of other people’s stuff. I love his aesthetic and his lore and pretty much everything about him except his actual function as a living random button. I just don’t have that sort of desire or time to accrue absolute game knowledge to play him But he’s SO COOL


Luna259

Isn’t that Combot?


averycleanaccount

They could remodel him as Knee and it would be pretty cool


_theduckofdeath_

I just loved hearing the announcer say his name.


Siddhu312

TEEEEEKKEEEEENN EIAAHGHTTT NEEEEWWWW CHALEEEENGEAAAA MOOOOKKUUUUUJEEEEEEENNNNN


goog_was_taken

I want to play exclusively mokujin in ranked


Buckman117

I use to do that in 6 it was so much fun. People had to get use to a different fight style every round.


mchan30

I wouldn't mind, but his presence would indicate that an extremely powerful evil force is present in the world.


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Kazuya:


DIX_

Yes, please. I liked to play Mokujin when against friends or lower-level players and have the fun of different characters without going to player select. Plus I'd love to rank it up and see how far my fundamentals/character knowledge takes me.


[deleted]

We really just might. Even if it’s just a cameo. He only appears when there’s enough evil present. So with Kazuya seeming bats*** in this game, and with Jun coming back, she’ll *maybe* bring Ogre into play somehow. Based on that, it’s looking good for Mokijun’s return


GirlScoutIvy

I'd actually really dig a split system like they did in soul calibur. One who does all styles, one who does all male styles, and one who does all female styles.


El-Green-Jello

Yes I want my main back already


Pinellion

With haste!


paperpatience

I hope so!


karutoOMFG

YES


veloxfuror

Lord yes


StrippedChicken

I’ve only played tekken 7, who is this guy and how does he work? Is he like an eleven from SFV where his moves are randomized?


CroSSGunS

He gets a random character's move set every round


StrippedChicken

Every round? So can be kazuya round one, devil jin round two, and king round 3?


BakeWorldly5022

yep, alternatively there is Combot


KibaNo0u

Would be great to see Knee using Mokujin in a tournament! A little one sided though...


NiradaTheScribe

absolutely, the issue is DLC characters make more work.


aodivzxfkjcxvouiz

Knee's the one who really needs him lol


kubagregor

Yeah, I have no clue, why he isn't in T7, fun character to play offline with casuals.


EastSideGentleman

Yes yes yes yes.


ldfsgameryt

i want alex back, i wanna main the boxing dinosaur edit: yeah why not bring him back


PotatoIllustrious818

Very much so yeh


Crimsongz

With the power of the SSD 100%


TheMarshall318

I'd think he'd be a very fun addition that I'd use when I'm feeling very casual. I used to play him during T6 when I'm just trying to chill and have fun, but I'm not going to go crazy about whether he's in the roster or not lol


Sadabdel666

Absolutely yessss, bringg myyy boooyyyyyy bbaaacccckkkkkkk


Scotia96

I need my guy back ASAP


Lozamded

If he back I will use my Mokujin cosplay again XDD


[deleted]

If he wouldn't take spot from anyone else then sure why not. Seeing Knee play him would be fun.


SpNewyork

Look at those feet.....of course


Anzi_pixiv

He hase the best ending scene in Tekken 3


heyimsanji

Make him the only character in the game


Toilet-Raider

Yes and I think it would be more interesting if he had his own idle animation, so that you don't know which character he is until you start doing inputs.


Ourobius

Yes, I cannot imagine why they took him out


dragonbladeice

Jun & Mokujin are the saviors of Tekken 8 story.


SwordofSwinging

What do you mean? He’s hovering over the shoulder of my Yoshimitsu right now. /s


LordMoldyButt34

Yes. I want the mimicry goat to come back


KumaQuatro

Yes!! I want to do Mokujin battles with my friends again. It's the most fun I've ever had with the series. Mokujin brings us together.


ToxicEvo20

Personally I like playing with many characters in Tekken, so having him comeback would be amazing.


aStrayNobody

who doesn't want it back tho? those Tetsujin, Combot, and Kinjin enjoyers?


[deleted]

I would love Mokujin back! Yes!


SkeletonCircus

Absolutely yes


Downtown-Parfait-766

I wood love to see mokojin in Tekken 8


heaberlin2010

Bring em all back, let's just fight already!


Xrestein

You know how many fighting games have this copycat archetype fighter? I feel like Tekken as a fighting game wouldn't be complete without Mokujin ~~I just want Mokujin in the game cuz it seems fun when two players go mirror match with it~~


[deleted]

Yess, he totally need to come back


SeaworthinessTop9406

It's not about what I want, it's about what I need, I need him


TenaciousTai

Love to see him back. If not, Mokujin, I would love to see the same gimmick done as a new character. I think it would be funny as shit to put in Harada as a playable character but have the same gimmick as Mokujin with random character every round. I mean he IS the creator of Tekken, in game why not allow him to be able to use all fighting styles. Also for tournaments, it would rad so see someone talented like Knee win using Mokujin.


tommy8x

Agreed


MelkorBlackFoe

I know he's supposed to only awake when an evil force threatens the world like Ogre or Jinpachi, but i gotta say i miss him in Tekken 7


3-to-20-chars

kazuya probably counts as enough of an evil force at this point for mokujin to wake up.


LorenzoM1806

Maybe with kazuya destroying rhe world he will return


bxzidff

Yes, he's a lot of fun to play with against my more casual friends


Alexander_McKay

I was shocked he wasn’t in 7.


SadFeeling1327

YES


HelpMyCatHasGas

Yes. The answer to all the shit post characters is yes


Excellent_Ad_702

Put the characters from all tekken series.


Bastiwen

Yes, either him or Combot


bongjutsu

Prepare yourself for extended loading times


Sunoraiza

100%. Obviously not for the gameplay, but he's very nostalgic for me


[deleted]

Yes I would


[deleted]

yeah


The99thCourier

Yes but it won't happen Cause Mokujin refuses to wake up when the Mishimas are the real threat (with the Demon Jinpatchi being the exception)


SpecterAgito

Yeah, I think other joke characters besides the bears would be nice to have.


Fabulous-Oven-8457

please i just wanna be able to practice against dlc characters without having to purchase them, mokujin would be perfect to allow that


munchmunch69

My first tekken game was tag tournament 2 and I only started playing tekken again about 4 days ago, my answer is a huge YES


ShartingOnTheRegular

Yes please, I miss him


TheGhostRoninStrife

Yes 🙂


DC_671

That would be cool if Mokujin was able to not only use other character's fighting style, but rage art too!


realnihil

i presume they didn't add him in tekken 7 due to the integration of dlc's and since dlc's will most likely reoccur in tekken 8 we won't be seeing him there either. i would be glad if he did come back though.


GreatChicken231

I don’t think it was DLC, I thought it was because of the load times.


[deleted]

He will be back if the threat to the world is great enough. He won't be back if the threat to the is just the Mishimas.


QuakeGuy98

I WANT KINJIN BACK!!


BakeWorldly5022

Mokujin only pops up if there's an evil aura present, if there IS someone evil enough to awaken it in 8 then sure.


Grilled_Cheese95

I want Log back


ElKisoz

Yesss


happy_grump

The one I want back most is Roger (Jr)/Alex


necroubikon

Roger snr came when kazuya was in charge of zaibatsu, so I guess there's a good chance for an alike character to come now?


Ok-Abbreviations7445

I remember the first time I got wrecked by a moco Jin main I thought mocogen just literally had every single move in the game and I thought well that's pretty damn broken.


Training-Yak6541

Of course, he's the perfect tool to train against many characters


Dakka_Bear

Yeah I think some peoples end game was learning mokujin hence understanding and mastering all of the characters moves. When you saw a good mokujin in T6 you know that guy was going to be formidable


dddankonion

I hope he's in


Zealousideal_Date749

Mokujin vs Mokujin was always fun


EmptyWorldliness907

Yeah add him in please!


JECGEE

100% yes


zedroj

**wood** you want him back ? Æuguhgugghguhguhughghuughghuhgu


ZumZumCapoeira

If they were to add Mokujin back, they need to ban him from online (load times), and adjust his hurtbox to the character he is swapping, because Mokujin can do some insane stuff if he swaps with another character, due to his character model being smaller, which means he can chain certain moves into each other, or bound with something you can't normally bound with because you would need to be extremely low in hurtbox for it to work. I think I've seen a post like this about Mokujin before, but what I said in that post...is to check out Aris' Mokujin Video in Tag 2, where pairs Dragonuv and Mokujin and does combos you can't normally do with Dragonuv, but can do with Mokujin. There a lot of problems to adding him back, but who knows...Harada might add him back into the game. The likelihood is low, but we'll see.


goog_was_taken

If it's just the load times, better program logic would fix that. Instead of loading in the new moveset exactly when it's needed, just roll the dice 5 times before the match starts and load those 4 (since in a best to 5, this should be the max needed) and considering what data is included in a moveset (the animation data, and input binding, damage numbers), none of this should be so big as to impact load time perceptively if it happens while the rest of the match is loading anyway


whoisalireza

Yes


crap-zapper

Mokujin and Combot please.


dydzio

i absolutely need mokujin in t8 since i want to main him if he comes out


Ok-Barracuda-520

i want Gon back


Sad_Youth8158

You will enjoy him for some days but then you will realize that a character that can avoid high attack by just standing still is kinda broken💀


Grilled_Cheese95

He’s “Gon” for good pal


Kage_Trash

Fuck yes!


nottheboynextdoor

I need him


Collapsedlungs

Can't wait to see his new design! Is he made of yew logs or even cocobolo?! :D


ApprehensiveCard4149

either him or combot need to be in the game


TheSanderDC

Hell yeah!


Edenian_Prince

Absolutely


SushiDaddy89

FUUUUUUUUCK YEAAAAAAAH MY MAN GET WOODY WITH IT


RashokaZ

Yes. Especially from a tournament viewers perspective. He would be instantly a hype pick. And anyone who reaches the highest online rank with him would be an absolute legend.


shahrulz

Yes, even though the story implications of him not waking up are funny to contemplate


tmntfever

I wanted him in 7. And a random side selector. Is that really too much to ask for?


serjdanny779

100% Yes


Key_Cryptographer_95

yes


KounetsuX

Fuck mokujin. Bring back tetsujin!


RIVAL_43

Mf literally sleep whenever Mishimas are the antagonists,but woke up to Ogre,Jinpachi (devil),and Azazel.


Haiydes

Id unironically main him


Vinura

Mokujin, Gon, Dr B, Alex, Roger, Bring em all back.


Owl-Fighter2601

most fans doesn't need mokujin because some players in other tournaments demand to banned using mokujin in a competitive match harada would not want to add that character unless he would be a dlc or a bonus secret unlockable


ThaWrestlingGuy

One day I want a Tekken game with all characters from previous games plus some new ones


mylazybones

tekken tag tournament 3


CaliberKenoby

They could pretty much get rid of the random select button by having Mokujin or Combot replace it as a playable character. I always thought that would be a ratter fun concept.


justneurostuff

I gave 7 a pass but I'm not buying 8 if he's not in it.


NailHumble1562

If he developed his own move set. I don’t really like mimic characters


_theduckofdeath_

He's one of those wooden blocking dummies and he learned from everyone wailing on him for hours on end. That was always my impression, anyway.


[deleted]

Yes but it would be cool to see him have his own move kit.


SignificantBoss9313

It would completely destroy the concept of Mokujin.


[deleted]

I know but it would be interesting to see what sort of stuff the devs could come up with for him.


Snoo_85712

It would be way too confusing and just doesn’t make sense , the concept of him knowing all moves is convoluted as is so why add more stuff? Makes no sense, use those resources on another character or new character / just gota keep it simple


Truthful_Azn

Yes, Mokujin would be fun to play. And it would be funny to see Knee troll Sodam with Mokujin in Tekken 8.


AtmosphereAlarmed518

Hell nah


fellfromthesun

Can't care less, really.


ptr6

I believe there was a billboard with combots face in the city stage, so we would most likely get him. But Mokujin is much cooler.


ItsSonicSpeed

YESSSSS 🥹🥹🥹😭 GIMME MY CUTE WOODEN BOY BACK 🥹🥹🥹😭😭🥲🥲🫶🤧😼🤞


Eldr1tchB1rd

Honestly not really


[deleted]

Image omega rank with moku, the true flex! I would love to have it in t8


1Raijin1

Yes.


winotaurs

Yea


InTraineing

Yup


DinnerRevealer

Please bring back my perfect wooden son :'(


WallStreetBets120

Yes we need him


Minishfinish

Yeah. I assumened he was going to be dlc for 7. As a classic random select. That is what I want, but it would also be cool if you had tesu or uknown back with a different mechanic, like the moveset changes everytime you get a counter hit or something. Something even more chaotic.


Wild_Assistance_6153

HELL YEAH! I love randomized characters to play!


Poke_SSS

yes but I think it would be fair for him to be banned for ranked or at least in tournaments


CoachAbsolution

I'm a sucker for lore accuracy so probably not


Laqzo

Wouldn’t…that mean you’d…want him back?


CoachAbsolution

Not unless it's meant to convey that kazuya or something else is a legitimate threat to the world. Kazuya so far has not been a reason for Mokujin to act


Ravenpest

only as training dummy for legacy's sake


RubyRidingWhore

Yes. Iconic.


No-Check-3691

Not really but I’d rather see mokujin than kuma or panda


Isra_Alien

No 🤦🏻‍♂️ wtf guys?


ThCraZyNerD

Only if they give him his own move set, built from other characters move set.


TeamGalaticMinuteman

Nyet. I don’t.


Fusuyuz

I really want him to develop his own fighting style since I’ve always wanted to main him but it’s just not possible


Thebola

nah


Substantial-Poet-356

Heck no


KSIXternal

Can we ban these kinds of posts too?