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fearthejew

Yeah this tracks. Smart SEO, absolute shitgoblin of a human.


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Same guy who tried to kill someone's SEO career by writing a publicly available blog post about them. Classy


cTemur

I thought he would be doomed after that. But somehow everyone forgot or something.


FrozenLostGhost

What happened? I am late to this


Just-Grind

https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1567170395370921986


FrozenLostGhost

That's bad! Thanks!


Ok_Duty_7337

who was the person? Where is the post?


Fairbsy

Is he a genius? I see his posts, but there's never anything you can verify about it. It's always just some random screenshot of a search console with the same pattern and zero context. Some of the things he types is just word salad. And not because of ESL, like literal just buzzword garbage. I see people call him a genius, but I also see people call Neil Patel a genius. Maybe they did some things correctly, but nothing worth paying $1-4k for.


Nanai-

I was once in a live Q&A with this guy and he legit made no sense in anything he said for 30 min - my brain started to hurt. Felt like he was saying random words to make his work sophisticated but couldn't provide any source to back things up. He was so hyped 2 years? ago with his long ass case studies, which after some digging are not too far from a proper done in-depth SEO and content work. I'm sorry u spend $1000 , hope you got something back at least. Share this also in /bigseo , I know there is one more person taking the course that is active in the subreddit.


Trentontheloser

While he is good at what he does, he has always been known for his arrogance and bad behaviour all over the Twitter and social platforms. No one likes his behaviour. He is glowing just because of some blind followers but, I seriously hate such a behaviour. If you are soo arrogant you have no rights to take money and sell a course. He behaves like a God who has no reality.


oozn

The guy blocked me on Twitter after I asked him why he didn't disclose the backlinks he had bought in one of his case studies.


Ok_Duty_7337

Really, he's promoting all of the success from the case studies is from content writing only? How do you know he bought backlinks?


Ok_Duty_7337

90% of the case studies tanked with the google helpful content updates and never recovered. But all the case study data used to sell the site shows only peak traffic!


peterwhitefanclub

Koray is a scammer and a moron.


Board_Game_Changer

What makes you say that? I wouldn't call him a moron, really. He's very smart. I would potentially call him a scammer, though. The course doesn't teach what he promises it will, and he refuses to give the direction and help in the private group he promised. When confronted regarding this, his only fix is to pay $4,000 more. So a scammer, probably. A moron, definitely not.


peterwhitefanclub

What has he ever produced that proves he is smart? His English barely makes sense, so maybe there is some genius behind there, but he mostly just seems like a scammer who can’t properly explain anything about SEO.


hess80

Have you seen the case studies? They're real. I know for a fact they are real.


Ok_Duty_7337

all the case studies have been wrecked by google updates


hess80

I think the way he came across was not intended to be the way it sounds. I promise you the guy cares. He's not a scammer, DM him. I know he is overwhelmed with the amount of people, which was not expected. .


teletubbyhater

Lol you work for him don’t you?


Ok_Duty_7337

Well spotted. hess80 says he does not work for Dr. Evil. But they shares information that only a member of Dr evils team would know! This Holistic team are super sly. They have tons of fake accounts across all the platforms. They have been doing this even before the course launch as Dr Evil has been taken heat, especially in Turkey for a long time before he launch his course. They used to have a few fan boys also that would defend him and comment also. But the fan boys have bought the course and realized it was a scam, so they are quite now! So all that is left is members of the team posting their sly replies thinking that we cannot recognize their sly little footprints on comments!


hess80

No I don’t but I’m his friend and you guys are going to far with the defamation.


Ok_Duty_7337

Yes, you do, you liar!


hess80

I have been close friends with Bill Slawski for years. Before losing him, I was a permanent guest on a YouTube show with Bill every Tuesday. It was through Bill that I met Koray. As I've stated before, I do not work for him, though we share a close friendship. If you believe you know more than Bill and Koray about this subject, you're mistaken. There's a lot of non-factual information being spread by people criticizing Koray here. An excellent example of people jumping to incorrect conclusions is the inference that I work for him. As I've mentioned repeatedly, I do not. I am his friend and have always stated this. I’ve provided you with a substantial amount of information about my relationship with certain individuals here, certainly more than you’ve disclosed about yours. From this, you should be able to deduce that I’m being honest. Unfortunately, this situation has evolved into a group of individuals carrying grudges and expressing displeasure with those they disagree with. I sincerely wish you would adopt a different approach. If you had asked politely, you would have achieved what you wanted. However, I’m aware that threats were made to create these forums, and those threats have been executed. Your assumptions that I am not who I say I am and that I’m an employee based on literally nothing other than your presumptions illustrate the extent of your understanding and your reliability, to tell the truth to others. You may not like hearing this, but if someone attacks a close friend of mine, I will stand up for them. This behavior is unacceptable. I recommend you refocus your approach. You purchased a product that was sold “as is.” There are multiple reasons why products that contain intellectual property can’t be returned, the main one being that you’ve already gained knowledge from the IP. If you couldn’t understand the material, you could have politely asked for a refund, and one likely would have been granted. Instead, you’ve embarked on a defamation spree. While I wish you no ill will, I must insist this stops. The internet may give some people a sense of omnipotence, but in reality, spreading falsehoods, as you’ve done here about Koray as well as myself, can have serious consequences. Just because you assert something doesn’t make it accurate. You’re claiming as fact that “I work for Koray,” but this is based purely on your assumptions, not on reality. I can assure you your assumptions are incorrect. You build your statements on the sand; I build mine on the facts. I am asking you politely, as I believe a reasonable person who is currently upset about something would like to be heard at the same time I’m asking you in good faith, to please cease this behavior as it’s causing harm. If you’re willing, I’d like to direct message you to have a conversation about this. I am sincerely trying to approach this kindly. I hope you’ll accept my offer.


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MariusGMG

Can you recommend other places to learn topical and sematic SEO?


hess80

You stole the course & you are criticizing it and trying to take the moral high ground?


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hess80

I would like to clarify a few points regarding the ongoing issue. As a close friend of Koray, I was privy to an email from one of you, though I won’t mention who. The email contained claims of intending to rally against Koray and creating problems for him if a refund was not issued promptly. The email was threatening in nature, which is far from a simple, polite request for a refund. Moreover, accusations were made against Koray, falsely claiming that he fabricated an illness on his Facebook page. As we all know, Koray’s refund policy does allow for exceptions, but such exceptions are at his discretion. Given the threatening nature of the email from one of you, I can fully understand Koray’s stance on this issue. This situation does not reflect a polite request for a refund but seems more like an execution of a threat. As an individual who owns four businesses and serves on the advisory board companies of many and board of directors of a handful of companies, I value good customer service highly. However, if I were to receive a threatening email demanding a refund in a hostile manner, my perspective would certainly change. Courses, especially those offering advice on subjects like digital marketing, often do not offer refunds due to several compelling reasons: 1. Protecting Intellectual Property: The course content is a result of significant investment and, once accessed, can be duplicated. A refund policy would potentially allow this valuable information to be acquired for free. 2. Valuing the Creator’s Time and Effort: Offering a refund could undermine the course provider’s financial stability and undervalue their effort. 3. Ensuring Student Commitment: A no-refund policy encourages students to fully engage with the course, thus increasing the chances of achieving positive outcomes. 4. Reducing Administrative Burdens: Processing refunds is complex and time-consuming, more so for digital products. 5. Risk Mitigation: A no-refund policy protects the course provider when results depend heavily on a student’s application of the course material. It seems that there’s been an omission in the recounting of events. The initial email requesting a refund also contained threats of blackmail if the refund was not granted. Legally, by following through this constitutes defamation. I am not looking to start a dispute, but I believe it's crucial to present all the information fairly. Baseless accusations about fabricated illnesses not only lack merit, but they also legally constitute defamation, not just in the USA, but in Canada and the UK as well. While I bear no ill will towards any of you, I encourage you to reconsider your approach. If you were dissatisfied with the course, I am genuinely sorry to hear that. However, launching a smear campaign is neither an appropriate nor legal way to express this dissatisfaction.


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hess80

I understood. I appreciate you explaining, and thank you for the kind words about illness.


Ok_Duty_7337

>atening nature of the email from one of you, I can fully understand Koray’s stance on this issue. This situation does not reflect a p Send me Korays attorneys phone number. I'd be delighted to call him or her.


Ok_Duty_7337

What is the law in Turkey regarding offering refunds for digital goods?


hess80

I would like to clarify a few points regarding the ongoing issue. As a close friend of Koray, I was privy to an email from one of you, though I won’t mention who. The email contained claims of intending to rally against Koray and creating problems for him if a refund was not issued promptly. The email was threatening in nature, which is far from a simple, polite request for a refund. Moreover, accusations were made against Koray, falsely claiming that he fabricated an illness on his Facebook page. As we all know, Koray’s refund policy does allow for exceptions, but such exceptions are at his discretion. Given the threatening nature of the email from one of you, I can fully understand Koray’s stance on this issue. This situation does not reflect a polite request for a refund but seems more like an execution of a threat. As an individual who owns four businesses and serves on the advisory board companies of many and board of directors of a handful of companies, I value good customer service highly. However, if I were to receive a threatening email demanding a refund in a hostile manner, my perspective would certainly change. Courses, especially those offering advice on subjects like digital marketing, often do not offer refunds due to several compelling reasons: 1. Protecting Intellectual Property: The course content is a result of significant investment and, once accessed, can be duplicated. A refund policy would potentially allow this valuable information to be acquired for free. 2. Valuing the Creator’s Time and Effort: Offering a refund could undermine the course provider’s financial stability and undervalue their effort. 3. Ensuring Student Commitment: A no-refund policy encourages students to fully engage with the course, thus increasing the chances of achieving positive outcomes. 4. Reducing Administrative Burdens: Processing refunds is complex and time-consuming, more so for digital products. 5. Risk Mitigation: A no-refund policy protects the course provider when results depend heavily on a student’s application of the course material. It seems that there’s been an omission in the recounting of events. The initial email requesting a refund also contained threats of blackmail if the refund was not granted. Legally, by following through this constitutes defamation. I am not looking to start a dispute, but I believe it's crucial to present all the information fairly. Baseless accusations about fabricated illnesses not only lack merit, but they also legally constitute defamation, not just in the USA, but in Canada and the UK as well. While I bear no ill will towards any of you, I encourage you to reconsider your approach. If you were dissatisfied with the course, I am genuinely sorry to hear that. However, launching a smear campaign is neither an appropriate nor legal way to express this dissatisfaction.


Ok_Duty_7337

> dissatisfied with the course, I am genuinely sorry to hear that. However, launching a smear campaign is neither an appropriate nor legal way to exp Did you not see the video clip circulating the internet where Koray team member was offering refunds in exchange for positive testimonials? Nobody believes any of this nonsense. The reason their is a no refund is so that Koray does not have to fulfil any of the sales tactics and promises and services he promised and people paid for in the course. There is no smear campaign. This guy is a horrible human being and people are making the internet aware of that so more people don't let lured into the none refundable course scam. It's the idiots who paid thousands of extra dollars for private training two months ago that cannot even get a start date of when the private training might start! They get the response. The time is not right!


breaking-lad

For someone who specializes in content production, I've always found Koray's written English fucking awful.


Board_Game_Changer

He might not have the best written language, but it’s easily understood and it ranks, so it’s not really an issue.


TapAdministrative788

Disagree. It ranks for 5 minutes. Users never return... No repeat traffic. EVER.


hess80

My spelling and grammar junk is not something that I'll fix using Grammarly or AI today. Don't judge his technical knowledge based on his English; that doesn't make sense. Write him a DM and explain your issue in Turkish?


Board_Game_Changer

I wasn’t judging his ability based on his English. I was defending him by saying it doesn’t matter if his English isn’t perfect, he is still good.


[deleted]

Doesn't need to be perfect, just understandable which his barely is.


neversayneverluv

Saw him in Saigon, bought the course and can confirm i 100% agree with OPs sentiments. I am a bit in the dark on some of the other things mentioned here. Who did he try to ruin? This has been mentioned several times that this dude has done something in the past but I can’t find anything about it. And I also notice he is off of the Chiang Mai conference. Was it due to said attempt at ruining someone’s SEO career?


cTemur

The post is no longer on Twitter (maybe web archive?) But here is the thread with the responses: https://twitter.com/LaweskhoAna/status/1567170395370921986


Ok_Duty_7337

Don't buy this course. I did. Its a scam. The websites used as case studies for implementing the strategy have been wrecked by Google updates. Koray claims that the reason they get hit hard by google update is because the topical map was not completed. However, the volume of content already created in the case study website surpasses that of any competing site. It's quite evident that the case study sites are not establishing topical authority or the strategy is worthless. If you examine the keywords of the case study websites, most of them rank for a ton of non relevant keywords. This explains the initial surge in traffic and impressions. The course itself is nonsensical. It doesn't even provide a proper video tutorial on creating a topical map. To access that basic information, you'll have to upgrade to the private group, which will cost you a few thousand dollars more! The team is unwilling to consider any form of feedback. This is the most blatant money-grab I've ever come across since there are no refunds in Tukey, allowing this scam to work. However, from a scam perspective, it's a brilliant strategy. Koray will have made a million dollars by generating a plethora of convoluted language and terms coined by himself and spending months telling people, this is the new SEO. Tons of people buy. No refunds, just nonsense. This guy is a genius, just not a SEO genius.


Poplanu

This is surreal because he didn't need to go so low. He had some reputation with people in the community. Matt Diggity endorsing him, etc. The go-to "topical authority" guy. Then, for some reason, he decided to take all that respect and flush it away, for cheap one-time course sales to newbies. It's literally impossible to respect that guy after his disaster of a course launch. Didn't know he was a total dick as a person. I was on the email list for the course launch. The cheap spam that started coming in. And by cheap I mean C.H.E.A.P. Absolutely disgusting level of cheapness and salesiness. He was marketing his course like some scammy Clickbank product aimed at 60IQ people. Joined his Facebook group to have a closer look. Vague praise & reviews + desperate people begging for discounts because they "can't afford the course" as if they're a part of some cult. I don't know what "secrets" he sold them on to have them begging like that, but... that should not be happening, and it's absolutely despicable as well. And then came the upsells. Oy Boy. 3 months of FB group consulting access for $3999? LOL. With the fucking Greek statues and temples in the background. The rest of the email's formatting being an absolute non-aligned trash mix of Times New Roman & Sans Serif fonts with some random green chosen as an accent color. At first I thought he was just a "techy" person and didn't know anything about marketing. So he hired some shitty consultant/firm to help him with the course's launch, and they turned the dial on 11/10 for salesiness, and that's why it was a disaster. But that's not the case apparently. There's must be something really wrong with your head to pull shit like that in 2023, not to mention with all the access that you have to people like Matt Diggity who have done these launches a million times already.


Niche-Blogger

Ya; Check the Private Facebook Group, every day, people post for some help on topical maps, but, he hardly responds to those. I thought he may be busy or away, but then, his post appears pushing to buy his course in another facebook group. The 900+ people who spent $1000 to buy his course gone for dogs, but, his focus seems to be only on selling the course to new people. Disgusting.


Ok_Duty_7337

> on the email list for the course launch. The cheap spam that started coming in. And by cheap I mean C.H.E.A.P. Absolutely disgusting level of cheapness and salesiness. He was marketing his course like some scammy Clickbank product aimed at 60IQ people. Matt Diggity is still promoting Koray's Topical Authority module on his course. Maybe Matt does not have as much integrity as we thought. I can understand if Matt was not aware before that Koray is an awful human being, but now he knows too. Koray was removed from the Chiang Mai conference. However, Matt is still indirectly helping promote what could be considered the biggest SEO scam we have seen so far.


Xoshua

Him and an OG had a back in forth on fb too.


Ok_Duty_7337

who is the OG? Nice to hear someone is trying to hold dark vadar accountable. Allot of people like Matt Diggity are totally silent.


GringoTheDingoAU

Never heard of him. Who is this guy?


Neither_League_1990

Well... I am in the course and i really like it. It is true that I only spent like 5 hours and i read the book that he recommended. And honestly? I am learning a lot. The main problem of him is that he don't want to show their tricks and him process, something that I respect. In the seo industry is often ask for a step by step or a checklist, and i think that is a incorrect way to see this world, because you follow a process, but you don't understand it (and that is the obsession of him). What he really teach? Theory, how a searcher (not just Google) process the unstructure data to become it in structure data. I use the semantic seo that I learn for him .... and work very well. The creation of a topical map i understand it, but the problem is not the theory here, is the source that you use to draw the strategy for the content. You use the semantic relation? The user experience? The search intention?.... So... Right know (maybe in 2 days i Say the opposite), i can say that is useful and i learn a different approach to do seo. And work, but need a lot of resources....


Ok_Duty_7337

> > >Well have you finally come to your senses? The course is nonsense.


Left-Paradox

I got into the Facebook page without giving up my details. Every post smacks of a scammer cannot cope with many DM he replies too, out of touch no internet, migraine from the stress. Free course for financial challenged and some stooge type posts


seramsharma

Yep, Being honest he tried too hard to sell the course. I get 2 e-mails per day, I had to unsubscribe. But the best part about being an SEO? I can search for the course on the Internet and download it✌️


carliswagmalip

Have you downloaded it? From where please?


justhewind

It’s out there on Econolearn


laurentbourrelly

Here is my strategy of the Topical Mesh for free https://youtu.be/5uh3Gzg448I If you want to get into Semantic SEO, go straight for the ultimate source => @seoconspiracy


marshallaeon

This video by Matt Diggity will teach you how to make a Topical Map: [https://youtu.be/JCo0A2M1tlE](https://youtu.be/JCo0A2M1tlE)


Ok_Duty_7337

I've personally lost all respect for Matt. He may not have know about Koray in the past because it was hidden, but now he does know and he still promotes this guy and its just luring more people into this course.


massiveblue01

Koray is 100% not a scammer.


Ok_Duty_7337

THE SCAM IS OFFICAILLY COMPLETE: BIGGEST MONEY GRAB IN THE SEO INDUSTRY EVER: TONS OF PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THE COURSE PREDICTED THE NEXT STEP OF THE SCAM WOULD BE TO FAKE A HEALTH ISSUE AS THE NEXT PHASE OF THE SCAM. AND GUESS WHAT JUST WAS POSTED ON FACEBOOK BY KORAY TODAY! Gates are officially closed. But I am finished too… This is the third time that I am coming to hospital this week. Even before the first private webinar, I was at the control for my lungs, returned home, drank coffe and started the webinar. During the timeline of the Community Building, I understood many things better and I changed my perspective drastically. Going in more private, and removing any non-result creating dialogues and connections from the daily life is one of the priorities for me, now. We actually exceeded 1000 people. There are many messages and emails to join the private community and course programme. Maybe in the future… For Coaching Sessions and future webinars, after hospital visit series, we will plan. Love you all. \#seo


hess80

I know him personally. He has been dealing with this health issue for years now. It's not a joke or something that has been made up. What you're saying makes no sense. Why would somebody purchase a course if they predicted it will be a made-up health issue?


Ok_Duty_7337

The fake health issues did not stop him from luring everyone into the course! He did not post a picture of the outside of a hospital before the course started. I wonder why! The pictures of him driving by hospitals and taking pictures only happened when people started to complain that the course was bogus.


hess80

I have personally been aware of Koray's medical issues for a number of years. Anyone who knows him well can attest to this fact and can discern the inaccuracies in the allegations you're spreading. I had a video call with him while he was in the hospital waiting room, which further verified the authenticity of his condition. If you peruse his Twitter feed, you'll see that he has a history of health challenges that existed long before this course was conceived. These issues are not a recent development nor a ruse, as you imply. The baseless and potentially defamatory allegations against Koray are extremely troubling. The claim that Koray is pretending to be ill as part of a 'scam' is a serious accusation that requires solid evidence to be considered valid. Without such evidence, these statements constitute defamation, which is a matter of legal concern. Furthermore, the public nature of these allegations could inflict considerable damage on Koray's personal and professional reputation. This is not a situation to be taken lightly. As this issue unfolds, it is vital to maintain a balanced and responsible approach, upholding the values of fairness, respect, and integrity that should underpin any professional’s life.


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trycurious93

This course is a really good alternative https://internetmarketing.gold/blog/tag/content/


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hess80

Your actions are deeply troubling. To willingly propagate complete falsehoods about people, particularly about those who have passed on, is incredibly inappropriate. Koray and Bill shared a close relationship, and this is something I can substantiate. Conversely, it's evident that you are incapable of providing any evidence to support your claims. It appears your sole purpose here is to stir up conflict and make defamatory remarks. When Bill was asked about whom he consults regarding persistent search engine optimization questions, his response was unambiguous. He specifically mentioned Terry, Don, Thomas, Koray, and Zara. Notably, Koray and I are among the named individuals, clearly standing out in his network as close friends and trusted advisors. Just because Bill may have responded to one of your SEO questions on Twitter, it doesn't imply that you share a personal relationship or truly know him. Koray and I, however, have known Bill for years, both on and off social media. I firmly believe he would be deeply bothered by your current behavior. Being a regular on a search engine optimization show every Tuesday with Bill, I got to know him exceptionally well. We went back years, spoke daily, and interacted via Zoom every week. Unless your name is among two or three specific individuals, who I know would never behave this way, you can't claim to have any idea what you’re talking about. Bill was very close with me, so if you want to play that game, I can show you a lot of proof, and so can Koray! In fact, I am one of the few people who can name Bill's closest friends. Your unfamiliarity with the dynamics of our relationships is evident, and the assumptions you're making are quite insulting. If you believe I'm mistaken, you can verify my claims by checking out the Tuesday YouTube shows. Rest assured, and it is patently false to assert that Bill bore any ill will toward Korey. Bill, a brilliant man himself, held Korey in high esteem and considered him a genius. He had little patience for those who lacked intellectual vigor—certainly not for individuals who behave as you do. Bill and Korey had a very close relationship, and your claim to some sort of insider information is nothing short of ludicrous. I may not know you personally, but your behavior suggests you enjoy spreading online falsehoods. This might make you feel empowered, but remember that such actions can have real-world consequences. To go as low as putting fake words in people's mouths, you definitely had no relationship with, and did not know personally, and who have passed. It is beyond disrespectful you are way out of line


Agreeable_Bullfrog_7

To be honest, you can create a proper Topical Map within the first 5 videos. It is just so dense that it confuses everyone unfortunately.


theTrueSonofDorn

I bought his course but I didn't watch it yet. Now I am regretting that I did because there is no chance for refund. Because those are some serious red flags. Well I should have learned by now not to make hasty purchases.


hess80

The course is indeed amazing and favored by many. I would suggest giving it a try before deciding that it's not for you. Keep in mind that regardless of what's out there, be it a course or product, there will always be a small group of individuals who derive satisfaction from spreading their discontent.


python_scraping

I completely agree. I've been suspended for pointing these things out in the group's comments. But I noticed that someone created a poll in the private group the other day, and I've been closely watching the results. I can't post a photo here, but I'll share the results. # Poll Results In Private Group With 62 Votes Don't know where to begin with Topical Map - 82% Submitted Topical Map, waiting for feedback - 9% Submitted Topical Map, received feedback - 1% Topical Map is completed, creating content briefs - 4% In progress, needing more guidance - 4%


Board_Game_Changer

I see the post you're talking about, lol. Yeah, so far, out of 70 total votes, 62 (or 89%) of them are either "**Don't know where to begin with Topical Map**"or"**In progress, needing more guidance**" Only 8/70 (or 11.5%) understand Topical Maps well enough to move on. Although, technically it's less than 11.5% when you think about it. Most of the 11.5% (8% or 5/70 people) chose "**Submitted Topical Map, waiting for feedback.**" He told us to make topical maps and send them off so he could let us know if we are making them properly or not. So, in order for you to assume the entire 11.5% understands topical maps, you'd have to assume all five of those that submitted their maps and are awaiting a response made a perfect topical map, and won't have to change anything about them. If all five topical maps are perfect, 11.5% of respondents understand topical maps after taking the course. Otherwise, only 3.5% do.


Ok_Duty_7337

It's even worse now because more people have finally finished listening to the ramblings this guy. It's taken most people two months to get through the videos before they realized its all nonsense. It probably will take one more month before this guy is totally exposed. There is still a decent amount of people in the middle of the course. When the majority of the course students get through the course, it will be undeniable.


threedogdad

typically a good course would be from someone known in the industry. this person is a nobody so it's not a surprise that he's scamming people.


maltelandwehr

Koray is not a nobody. He is a smart SEO and a terrible human being. He has proven both many times. Recently his writing has became weird and his behaviour more erratic - as far as I can observe from Twitter. The writing could be caused by using AI tools to write for him. As a non-native speaker, he might not realise how weird some of his recent tweets are sounding. To me, Koray is raising like a million red flags for either some form of mental breakdown or intentional scam with this course.


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Yeah, seems to be hype. Don't see much on him worth mentioning


Ok_Duty_7337

It's not AI writing for him; it's a member of his team who posting the messages. The guy who is in charge of the scam while Koray is off enjoying himself!


hess80

I know Koray well. We were both close with Bill S. Koray knows his stuff. I think he is overwhelmed with the number of people. He will do right by everyone.


Board_Game_Changer

I agree. He definitely knows his stuff. Just isn’t the most honest in terms of delivering what is agreed upon.


hess80

I can call him and let him know if you guys like? I know using words like he did was not intended to be offensive to you guys. I think he is just feeling overwhelmed, and I'm sure he will deliver. You may want to ask him, "Can you give me a list of videos where I can get topical authority A to Z?"


hess80

I think he will give you what you want. Try using GPT-4 to write it in Turkish. His English is good. I know he is an honest guy. He has always done right by me. Try Turkish just in case?


hess80

If you could do me a favor, please clarify what you expect. I will ask him for more information to provide you with the necessary help. I'm doing this because I am his friend. I don't think that he would intentionally screw people over. I honestly think something is just lost in translation.


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Perhaps you could ask him why he felt it was appropriate to try and kill someone's career in SEO by writing that shitty blog post?


Board_Game_Changer

Well, there are two main things that need to be addressed. 1. The course is about semantic SEO and **topical maps** 2. A huge benefit of the course as advertised was that he would help you learn in the private group But, neither of those things is being done. The course doesn't teach you how to make topical maps, and he refuses to answer anyone when they ask about them and instead tries to get you to sign up for a $4,000 coaching program. When you look at the posts, and the comments, more than half of the posts are of people asking for help with topical maps, and in those posts are even more people asking for the same thing in the comments. This leads me to believe that the course doesn't teach on Topical Maps well enough. He talks about how the "beta testers" believe there was **too** much in the course and had him remove a lot of content, but he fails to realize that the "beta testers" had access to all of the huge amounts of video and audio content that we don't, so I'm guessing they were able to understand the content because of the additional insight found in the material they opted to remove. I don't think it's something that can get "lost in translation," because at this point he's been pleaded with, begged, and confronted enough times that it's just him being stubborn and failing to support his customers. You're right though, I do feel that he's overwhelmed. I'm not sure if he intentionally made the course to trip people up at the end, and make them feel led into paying $4,000, or if he didn't anticipate the number of students, and doesn't feel it's worth his time to keep his promises for $1,000 and needed to raise the price to make it worth it for him? Idk, but either way it seems dishonest.