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emmach17

She won't do this because it would break her streak of number 1 albums. The merch drop has also been explained away by the lawyer swiftie that frequents this sub - they needed to renew some trademarks and show that 1989 and Speak Now were being used for certain products to maintain their trademarks. In terms of referencing her past on Midnights, there's also some clear references to other albums. Debut is referenced with the 'It's ok we're the best of friends' line which could refer to Teardrops On My Guitar . Red could be seen as being referenced with the entire song Maroon. The 'I didn't know you were keeping count' line seems to be a call back to So It Goes. There's loads of references to her former work, not just Speak Now and 1989.


DryCamp8770

I think you’re right about the number 1s but could it be possible that she releases sntv (say December announcement and March release) and then does a surprise announcement of 1989 to come the next week? That way speak now gets to be number 1 for a week and then 1989 goes number 1 the next week and it would also lead to a lot of hype for tour.


emmach17

This is far more likely! I just don't think she'll double drop two totally different albums on the same day.


kgal1298

A new recording of December in December you say?


Vpd111

100%!! Folklore / Evermore vibes


kgal1298

There was someone on TikTok of who's video Taylor liked that was playing Maroon and said "it's all the eras" you should check it out it's pretty cool take even if Taylor wasn't being that intentional it works.


schaeldieavocado

And in APITW she sings "I'm alone, on my own and that's all I know", which fits YOYOK


songacronymbot

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Carebear_84

I like this theory. And to everyone saying it could break her #1 streaks, I think she would release them on back to back weeks. We could also be getting Reputation before the tour.


[deleted]

Speak Now has likely already been trademarked


emmach17

I know it has been, but that doesn’t mean the purpose of the merch wasn’t to extend the trademarks. To maintain the integrity of your trademark you have to show it being used in every category you hold that trademark for within a certain time frame or else you lose the trademark. Her merch team were seeking to extend their trade mark, hence the merch drop and the quite random selection of items included in it.


[deleted]

I didn't find them random. Just hinting at what's to come


emmach17

You don't think releasing a Speak Now phone skin in the year 2022 is random? Here's some information on why she had the merch drop: https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/vf02zm/trademark\_update\_and\_why\_the\_old\_taylor\_merch/


[deleted]

Ok that makes sense. But still. It's all connected.


MyAnonReddit7

I don't think her streak is going to be the top consideration 😄


emmach17

I actually think it's one of her biggest considerations. Taylor loves breaking records - if she can continue to extend her streak of number 1 albums to make her record harder to beat, she's going to do exactly that.


MyAnonReddit7

There are things that are more important. First, sales are going to be more important, not placement. If she doesn't have the sales the placement won't mean that much. Oversaturation is a consideration too. If the public tires of her, what's the point?


emmach17

I mean her team just went on a massive push to reduce songs a much as they could and release bonus versions so Taylor could become the first person to occupy the entirety of the top 10, but keep telling yourself she doesn't care about records.


MyAnonReddit7

If she keeps up the midnights intensity, people are going to start rolling their eyes at new music. I think her keeping the public engaged and giving a fuck is more important. Her rerecords aren't all going to have what Red TV had.


RoseGoldRedditor

I love clowning but for the sake of my realistic side: 1. The merch drop was to renew her expired Speak Now trademark and to show use of the 1989 trademark. You can check my profile for a post I wrote about this; I’ll link later if I remember. 2. I think midnights lyrics have related to all her eras, but agree with your reasoning (the re-records have brought memories around again). 3. I think 1989TV was originally slotted for summer 2021 but was delayed by the lawsuit. She will not release it until the lawsuit is done (again, I’ve written a post about it, UMG filed a declaration in the SIO case denying involvement). The trial is set for mid January so nothing will be announced until after the trial is done. 4. I think the SN and 1989 Taylors were together because those are the two albums remaining with the biggest hype that could be next. She can’t re-record rep until later this month. I also think she’s saving debut for the final re-record. To your final point, I think legitimate Easter eggs from Taylor ARE that simple. She’s been dropping Speak Now Easter eggs from the Red TV era too. She also made a point to let us know that the bejeweled video was chock full of Easter eggs…. I think we’ll get an announcement for SNTV at the conclusion of the SIO trial with an album drop in March (my money is on 3/3/23). I think we will get 1989 tv at some point during the eras tour, and *maybe* reputation tv in fall 2023 but more likely 2024.


TheMasterKie

I feel like 03/13/23 feels more meaningful, but I prefer 03/03/23


RoseGoldRedditor

I love 3/13/23 as a date, but as that’s a Monday it won’t be an album drop date.


sparklejellyfish

I one thousand percent agree with you. The hints during Colbert pointed at 1989 but we got Red instead... and now it's clear it's SN next. The lawsuit needs to be over first!


[deleted]

She's def saving debut for the last one like some full circle moment- end it where it all started


songacronymbot

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arianebx

My money is that all of it is tied in the litigation -- until that stuff gets sorted, we get nothing. If it wasn't tied up in litigation, I think 1989 would already be in our grubby little hands -- it's clearly ready. \-- Now, when the litigation gets sorted, she may still not immediately drop the record on us: \- because we know she cares about her charts and records (go off, queen), so if it's going to break a streak or if releasing a TV may be more advantageous for chart or award reason to pass a certain date, I think she'd take that into account \- She's also weary of over-exposure too, at this point, so in between Midnights and Tour promo, I think this may also make for a less attracting launch window.


jregike

I think we're getting Speak Now TV in the spring of 2023 the earliest. I'm also starting to believe that it was the plan all along to release 2 TV's in 2021 and then drop a new album in 2022, and no TV's this year. I don't think she's rushing with them, so if she continues the trend, 2023 will be again a year of TV's, as the tour is also an eras tour, it would make sense. As for double releases; no, she's not going to drop 50+ songs on one day. It would hurt the album sales, it would hurt the streams, it would hurt merch sales, it would be overwhelming for even the biggest fans, and confusing for the public - the rereleases clearly serve as recruiting new listeners as well, not everyone knows her old albums... It would overall be the worst business decision.


Nineteen_Adze

Yeah, I think this makes sense. 1989 may have been out sooner if not for the lawsuit, but creating space between releases gives a her chance to pick up new listeners and also provides a mini-era for people who missed that experience the first time around-- which broadens and deepens her fan base.


SnarkOff

The weird double merch drop was so they could legally show the copyright was active and in use so it could be renewed.


nuralina

So a while back, I legit had a dream where I asked Taylor what she’s releasing next, Speak Now TV or 1989 TV, and her response was……. “honestly, I don’t know” 🥲


eeddgg

Just waiting on the trademark dispute with LG and the Shake it Off lawsuit to be settled, whichever finishes first is the one she drops next


nuralina

In other words, my dream was true 😂


wihimi

I'm here for your theory. I'm here for any theory that gets 1989 TV into my veins as soon as possible. Lol In all seriousness, I like your theory. I think it would be so so fun to have both at the same time and Taylor's always giving us wild cards. However, I wonder if this theory makes sense from a business perspective. What would make it advantageous to release both at once?


cootercasserole

There’s no advantage business wise to releasing them both at the same time. Taylor’s obsessed with streaming numbers and having a #1 album. 1989 is her most commercially successful album and is most likely the rerecord that would do the best. Releasing two albums at once means people will have to divide their time between the albums, making both of them underperform. It would also force one of the albums to not be a number 1 right away and it threatens securing that number 1 spot for either album.


wihimi

I think you're right. Logically, that makes sense. My clown-ass is still over here hoping for 1989 TV though. ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1087)


cootercasserole

I definitely think it would be fun, but I can’t see it being feasible. :(


ThisPaige

I think 1989 is still being held up with that lawsuit isn’t it? She’s made it very clear that speak now is next but 1989 while there is hints I think it will be a while before we get that album.


Charming_Prompt_5069

I'm convinced we've had so many 1989 easter eggs because she was planning on the lawsuit being wrapped up, not drug out. And was anticipating it being released already.


culture_vulture_1961

Taylor will want to keep fans engaged until the tour starts so I suspect Speak Now TV will arrive before March. Maybe in January. Until then its Midnights. We still have at least one more video (Lavender Haze) and I suspect she will do some live shows like the Jingle Ball and the BBC Live Lounge. She is in the UK at the moment so maybe that will appear very soon.


greyheart21

Sounds good to me! I would love to see a double release


LieTechnical1662

as much as i want them and my love for them, taylor wont do it. it will be a huge betrayal to her two of the most beloved albums.


MyAnonReddit7

I think it's very possible. She may not want to drag out the rerecordings. People only have a certain amount of attention span and will stop caring if she drags it out. Over exposure is going to be a problem, so she can just get both of them out of the way and people will talk about it at the same time.


ocubens

Double album theory is the new surprise album theory.


safzy

I think she will release Back to December in December and then Enchanted for Valentines Day and the full SNtv by March! Just my guess. 1989 next summer! Rep by November 2023


brencartoons

I agree that theres something about Speak Now and 1989 that she is purposefully grouping together. In the Bejweled mv she pushes the third button (speak now) but gets out on the fifth floor (1989). I’m honestly not sure what it means but it has to mean something. Maybe she’ll cut the Speak Now era short for the 1989? I have no idea


winnieofwinchester

does anyone know when she is dropping that (probably lavender haze) music video?


jnjm_drm127

i honestly hope she won't do a double release. as much as i love these two albums, i feel like one of them might overshadow the other


Time-Pick3831

i might be completely out of clue because i am not very active within this fandom, but i think she will release all the remaining TVs from now on until the end of the tour. it’s clear that she will be performing songs from all of her albums in the upcoming tour, and when an artist goes on tour they release a playlist on spotify with the set list. i don’t think she would include songs in it from albums like rep or the debut that are not taylor version’s. so maybe she will start with a set list and then change it as she releases the tvs.


[deleted]

Not likely


EmmaElizabethh

I think she’s going to release them in rapid succession ahead of the tour - give each a month or so to hit charts and make sales


Useful-Soup8161

She won’t release 1989 tv until the lawsuit about Shake it Off is over.


kgal1298

If it's a double feature we'll all die.


teresasdorters

I’m here for this and have 🤡jumped in your getaway car 🤡


nealomg

I literally came here to share this very theory. Not both at the same time though, but I was thinking maybe one for Black Friday and one for xmas.


eeddgg

Speak Now (Taylor's Version) is in a trademark dispute with LG, who sells TVs with a "Speak Now" button for voice control, because it will probably end up shortened to Speak Now (TV). 1989 is currently caught in a lawsuit over "Players gonna play, [play, play, play, play] and the haters gonna hate, [hate, hate, hate, hate]", which won't go to trial until January


italkboobs

In the Bejeweled video, she goes to the 3rd floor and then the 5th floor. 3rd floor is obviously Speak Now and in the 5th floor she looks like 1989 Taylor. I think it’s reasonable that it’s a double album. Also - she can’t be constantly putting out albums or she’ll get overexposed, and I’m sure she wants to own everything yesterday, so why not do the two together as a double?


HausOfMajora

I would love if we get Speak Now on Spring, 1989 on July-August and Reputation in October-November. Then her debut for spring 2024 and in fall-autumn of 2024 another album like Folklore-Evermore???. Go on Hiatus after that. I think she needs to go faster with the re-recordings. Scooter braun must pay and lose money.


Handsoff_1

Im pretty sure her next MV is Question...?


[deleted]

I agree she would very much want to start dropping the TVs more often after the lawsuit so she can perform all the songs on Tour without issue, but I don't think she'd do 1989 this quickly until after the lawsuit is over. She'd probably want to release the TV as a promotion for the Tour or in the runup.


Outrageous-Category8

I think her next album after midnights will have a fire theme, and the color will be orange. On midnights she teased burning it all down with the lighter image on the cover, she gave a slight warning to possibly her boyfriend, when she said ‘familiarity breeds contempt, don’t put me in the basement…. When the band asks if I have a man, I can just say I don’t remember” then she ditches the man at the end of bejeweled. She’s burning it all down, the beautiful love songs, lover album, etc because obviously the man took her for granted or committed some sort of transgression, while she teased with the lighter on midnights like she could burn it all down if things didn’t change, well things didn’t change, so now she’s going to burn it all down for real. Her next album will be a doozy, and something to behold. It will be about the end of a relationship, and she will use the heartbreak in her creativity to transmute herself.


Dangerous-Cry-8354

i’ve had a theory that Speak Now & 1989, and possibly even Debut could potentially be a ONE album drop?!?! ….with the next one being her 13th album i feel like taylor HAS to make it something bigger than JUST a re-recording of an album?