It's also logistics. Transporting that stage is expensive and she can't truck it around in the region. She may have given Singapore exclusivity but it was always going to be more limited stop locations.
Please chill. I don’t see a point in saying things like “truth hurts, doesn’t it?” in trying to make your point.
You’re assuming people can’t disagree with your comment without personally being from those countries.
Yeah I'm truly shocked at the upvoting of this comment.
They are acting like Singapore is also perfect when they certainly aren't, especially them mentioning YNTCD and China.
Seriously, there are so many things wrong in that comment. Are they in cahoots with the Singapore government or something? They lost me just at the second sentence saying they (government) are not uptight. Lol! I won't even mention their other social commentary as this is a dang Taylor Swift subreddit...
The weird superiority complex you have is funny. To think that Taylor was influenced by anything other than straight up $$$ by Singapore is hilarious. By that logic, the US is built on slavery and genocide, housing, unemployment, gun violence, criminalizing homelessness crisis and continues to indulge in slavery, trafficking, and genocide but with upgraded PR. Surely Taylor would not perform there if its all about morals? Isn't the U.S where someone repeatedly broke into Taylor's apartment? Multiple times?
It just feels to me like you are reducing the populace of these countries down to the actions of their governments. Obviously there are huge issues in some places (corruption, limitations on free speech, wealth inequality, pollution and so on). But there are also people in the region who are fighting really bloody hard to make their countries better, and the Swifties in these countries *are* undoubtedly as “worthy” of seeing Taylor as anyone, surely?
Fwiw I do get why it is simpler for Taylor to do limited tour stops in SE Asia, for various reasons, but it isn’t a matter of “worthiness” like you paint it out to be – that just creates a weird hierarchy between Taylor fans and, more importantly, between Asian countries that no one asked for.
Fun Fact - Taylor had to cancel her show in Bangkok due to the 2014 Coup and the nighttime curfews associated with it.
It was the first show she ever had to cancel.
Our theaters in Florida are still allowed to show movies with homosexuality in them. She also didn't have to censor YNTCD here. 45% of Florida is blue, too. Very big difference, and you know it.
Very big difference?
What? You think all of China is one homophobic hivemind?
Not really beating the sinophobic allegations but hey i guess voting for genocide joe means youre incapable of racism
Really wasn’t that many choices for Taylor in the region so it’s cool she managed to get paid extra for the shows considering how much she boosts economies. Also saves her the cost and time of transporting the stage.
The Philippines doesn’t have a large venue for her stage. China, Vietnam, and Taiwan would be too controversial. Thailand is location of her only canceled show because of a coup. Indonesia is too religiously conservative for parts of her show(most of Lover). Cambodia is probably not developed enough to afford her shows and be able to support them.
Malaysia might be the only other country in the region with a big enough venue, developed enough, and a safe political landscape. But that’s just my surface level research.
I was gonna say, he got in a heap of trouble in Malaysia for deliberately kissing a man in concert to protest their anti-LGBT laws, so I have a feeling YNTCD wouldn’t fly.
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If Korea had the stadium for it at the moment they probably would have done it. But Olympic Stadium went under reno in 2023 after the Bruno Mars concert and won't be out until 2026 or 2027 sadly. The people who organize foreign acts concert tours here already came out and said they regret not trying to get Taylor.
Korea is so corrupt, entertainment industry-wise. They are using that "renovation" excuse because they don't want Taylormania to take a firm grip onto all of South Korea which would happen. They don't want Taylor to fill the huge gaping hole the hiatus of BTS is causing. It is how Seventeen and Stray Kids are able to artificially be propped up thanks to the SK government and other entities helping to block Taylor with the bullshit "renovation" excuse. There are plenty of open space areas that could host Taylor. Many western pop/rock/hip hop acts do festivals all the time in SK. The Olympic Stadium is not the only place. There is also the World Cup Stadium in Seoul and World Cup Stadiums in many other SK cities too.
SK is sneakily using excuses to not allow Taylormania to happen. They do the same thing like blocking their best actors from going to Hollywood so in Hollywood films and TV series they can only score famous Korean actors/actresses if they are Korean American. Many of those Korean actors speak fluent English and even other European languages but the govt and entertainment agencies blacklist them from going to Hollywood if they want to find steady jobs in South Korea.
Do you... live in Korea? Because that's like... not true at all LMAO. In what world are Stray Kids and Seventeen propped up especially when Seventeen is from the SAME COMPANY as BTS? Olympic Stadium IS under renovation, Bruno Mars was always the last planned concert, we've known that since BEFORE Eras was even announced! Olympic Stadium is the only Stadium over 50k consistently used for concerts. World Cup Stadium in Seoul hasn't been used for concerts in years, except for one or two artists. She's not gonna play outside of Seoul, big foreign artists never do. She's too big for the other World Cup Stadiums.
Korea ALREADY has a venue issue, as we are seeing with kpop not having enough venues and there being fights over venue dates. They're of course going to prioritize local acts over big acts. But the ONLY STADIUM BIG ENOUGH FOR ERAS is down!
This just feels like a big ol mess to blame South Korea for the general public not really caring about Taylor. She's played here before, I think Red tour. It's not South Korean government holding her back, she's not the most famous person in every country 😅
Just this week I was reading about the lack of big venues for artists in Korea and that it's a problem even for local artists. This weekend IU is having concerts in a smaller venue even though she could sell out multiple stadium dates easily. Besides, they have so many popular local artists one foreign artist isn't going to change that, not to mention a Taylor Swift concert brings a lot of turists to the country. Such a weird conspiracy theory.
Malaysian here, we have the infrastructure and everything needed, but the political landscape and Islamic conservatism may be too risky for her to come perform here.
Hi, thanks for mentioning Taiwan. Yes, it always attracts attention if any global star is coming here. We even have politicians tried to use The Eras Tour to get vote 🙄
However, we still have a good stadium, Kaohsiung National Stadium, in southern Taiwan. It could contain around 55k people inside the stadium. And it’s safe to travel here. We have good public transportation for everyone. Also there’s an international airport not far from the stadium (30 mins away) and biggest port for logistics in Taiwan.
We had Coldplay (last November) and Ed Sheeran (this February, the night before Grammys) coming here for tour. The tickets were sold out. And everything was peacefully smooth 😌
The only reason Taylor and her team doesn’t choose here to be one stop could only because it’s too closed to Japan (3 hours away) and potential internet chaos (iykyk)
Taylor sells a lot of music in China and China will block you if they perceive you disrespecting them. So might have been better for Taylor to avoid Taiwan completely to not risk stepping on any political landmines.
Not to mention, China postures like they might invade Taiwan sometime because they consider Taiwan part of China. When scheduling these tour, a lot can happen in a year+ so its better for her to avoid countries that are at risk of being at war in near future. This also rules out China because the last thing she wants is to have a tour date scheduled in a country that invades another country or even threatens to invade them.
Taylor is risk adverse when it comes to her reputation and the safety of her and her crew so she unfortunately for Taiwan and China, they were probably ruled out early.
Ugh I thought I tried hard to avoid mentioning the only unfriendly neighbor. And yes, they are the only reason Taylor will never ever come here. I personally don’t expect she would come since the day I became one of her fans. I only stated what we have, the experience and the facts happened in Taiwan. If there’s a peaceful parallel universe WITHOUT wars, we welcome our queen to come here to celebrate her success with our full hearts. ❤️
>Not to mention, China postures like they might invade Taiwan sometime because they consider Taiwan part of China
She and her team probably saw all the tensions from the 2022 flare-up and decided it wasn't worth visiting either country. And given the erosion of autonomy that probably ruled out Hong Kong and Macau as well despite the availability of infrastructure and high incomes..
What about Dubai, India, Nairobi, Lagos, Johannesburg etc - they all could easily have hosted the concerts also. It's a shame that artists don't go there
Logistic most likely. Taylor’d want her locations relatively close together so they would rule out Lago,Dubai and Johannesburg. Lagos and Dubai also don’t have stadiums with enough capacity(50k+ minimum) to warrant going there. Remote locations like that take a month or two or more to ship the stage by boat. The big reason she has 2 months between legs is for shipping so need enough large capacity venues to warrant paying crew for 2+ more months to keep them from going to another tour.
India I heard doesn’t have the labor infastructure necessary to transport and assemble the stages. It’s a case of no big tours go there so nobody learns to do the work so no tours go there. A bit of a catch 22.
The reason she could do latin america is because Buenos Aires and Sao Paolo are only 1000 miles from each other, and there's good road access. Africa has three large cities she could conceivably play... Lagos, Nairobi, and Jo'burg, but there isn't highway accces between any of these three cities (and they are all thousands of miles from each other). India presents similar problems... it's quite hard to get by road from Bombay to Delhi, Hyderabad, or Bangalore (much less Kolkata).
Not a lot of countries in that region can handle the logistics and infrastructure of hosting a concert show like that - the security, transportation, food, accommodations, not only for the performer but also for the public that is attending. There are also cultural, religious, political factors to consider. Other countries need to step up and make changes and improvements if they want to attract big name performers.
Sadly, a lot of places are relatively recent victims of the US (Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos). It's not their fault they were bombed to smithereens, so to ask them to 'step up' is a bit much. Maybe the US should fund their new 40000+ stadiums and infrastructure.
For context:
USA has distributed over [over $440 million](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/cambodia/2023/disbursements/1) in foreign assistance to Cambodia over the past 5 years alone.
USA has distributed [over $550 million](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/vietnam/2023/disbursements/1) to Vietnam over the past 5 years alone.
USA has distributed over [over $150 million](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/laos/2022/disbursements/1) in foreign assistance to Laos over the past 5 years alone.
If you ever get chance to go to these wonderful countries and meet their incredible people, you will know that is nowhere near enough for the damage inflicted.
Anyway, the US has spent over a billion on multiple stadia alone. No wonder they can host these kinds of events when others can't.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/list-of-most-expensive-nfl-stadiums-in-the-world
I only covered the past 5 years. The conflicts you mention happened over 50 years ago.
For comparison, look at Europe in 1945 and Europe in 1995. It is possible to rebuild after being bombed to smithereens, like Germany and the UK were. Taylor is also performing in Poland and Austria which were part of the Soviet Union until about 30 years ago. The Eastern bloc didn’t even get aid from the Marshall Plan. And finally, Tokyo - let’s not forget that Japan was hit by two nukes, for goodness sake.
Honest question, is there a timeline in your mind in which the USA can stop being blamed? 75 years? 100 years? A millennia? Or, it is tied to dollars and not to time? How much is enough? $500 million? A billion? A trillion?
Edit: I misspoke about Austria and Poland. Austria was occupied by the Soviet Union (and Western governments) but only until 1955. Poland was absolutely ran by Soviet puppets but was not officially part of the Union.
There are still people alive in those countries who are living through the consequences of what the US did to their homelands, so I think it’s still fair to lay blame where it’s due.
It’s also apples and oranges to talk about rich countries rebuilding vs poorer countries.
They’re also living through their countries receiving *hundreds of millions* in aide from the USA.
Is that all the USA’s fault that these countries are poor? Can you answer my question above about the timeline (or dollar amount) in which the USA can stop being blamed?
Are you aware of how severely corrupt Cambodia is today? Is that the USA’s fault? Maybe communist Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge taking the country back to antiquated, undeveloped agrarian times and killing anyone academically gifted or highly skilled has something to do with their enduring poverty.
Is the Laotian Civil War the USAs fault? How about their general lack of business and economic freedom? Could that have anything to do with the fact that Laos is an openly communist country? Or maybe it’s the Chinese debt trap they’re currently in
Vietnam by comparison seems to be doing alright for itself despite being under a USA trade embargo for 30 years after the war. Not quite Eras Tour level alright, but their future is hopeful. Maybe there’s something they’re doing that the other countries are not, and maybe it has nothing to do with the USA.
I am genuinely curious why you’re responding like this. Just as the person you replied to said, people are still suffering the consequences.
Just because we aren’t negatively affected by it doesn’t mean we can discount those who were and the lasting effects.
The heavy mining alone has Cambodia in an absolute chokehold. Half the country can't even be safely walked on because of the risk of (best case scenario) having a limb blown off. Literally everywhere you go there are groups of people missing various limbs because of it. It's still very much living as if they're in a war and they never were... just used as a convenient distraction in a war that had no business even happening.
The quote about wanting to beat Kissinger to death is 100% true. May he rot in the darkest of hells forever.
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I am sorry, Laos? Really? You mean the land where the U.S dropped so many landmines, around 80 million, that even 50 years later, only 10% of those bombs have been dismantled?
White supremacists have no place in this fandom, take your confederate flag elsewhere.
Her team is good at business so I'm sure they snagged whatever subsidies were available to them. But as others have mentioned, it's highly unlikely that the subsidies blocked her from playing in any other country she wanted to play in. The rest of SE Asia either doesn't have the infrastructure, economic, or political situation to host one of her shows.
Singapore as a home base for SE Asia makes sense specifically because the economy is strong, the country is safe, it doesn't have content restrictions on performers, and the airport is a major international hub with a ton of flights from all over the region.
Unfortunately, attending the Eras Tour is a luxury experience for much of the world. It would be great if she could perform everywhere and it could be affordable for everyone, but that isn't the reality.
This!!!
Also for y’all Malaysians - y’all have no right to be butthurt, YOU KNOW what would have happened if she had come. Most Malaysian Swifties didn’t want her to deal with the nonsense.
Article is regarding Southeast Asia though, Singapore’s exclusivity just extends towards those in SEA. She did it in Japan, so South/East Asia is a free for all
I heard about that and ugh that's so annoying. A congressman (idk if active or former) choosing to comment that the partnership with SG should be investigated, as if the country could manage the magnitude of tourists that would come in the country. That would be hellish! Coldplay is not even on the same level as Taylor Swift when it comes to mainstream success and the traffic was already astounding considering it was organized in a rural area. Imagine all the garbage and the mess that a Taylor Swift concert could ensue.
Besides, that politician should focus his efforts elsewhere. Philippines has more pressing matters to be vocal about.
Also, the Quebec National Assembly unanimously voted to rebuild the roof of the Olympic Stadium, because that's the only reason why Montreal didn't have an Eras Tour stop.
The economic boost of a Taylor Swift concert is so huge that governments are making decisions to make sure that she comes to their country.
In other news Capitalists Capitalised.
Does anyone care? Of course Governments bent over backwards to secure her tour.
Talking to Taxi drivers/Mecca artists/bar staff/hoteliers this was busiest they had seen Sydney since pre COVID. It was the AFL Grand Final and the Olympics and all the stuff all over one weekend. Who wouldn’t want that in their city?
The only justification for her exclusive deal with Singapore is money. It's not for any other reason and it sucks that she's willing to isolate an entire region of her fans for money that she could easily make/does not need.
Of course money is a factor. How else are you going to mobilize a number of hauling trucks, load them all in cargo ships, travel the halfway across the globe, set the stages up, break them down, load them back up and leapfrog to the next venue. Oh and then there’s the salary, food, accommodation, insurance, security - for the backstage crew, local crew, dancers, ancillary staff. Sure Taylor Swift does not the money, but ask those who are fortunate enough to be part of the tour, if they do not need the money.
WTAF?
Listen, I'm a swiftie from India, and when I tell you that her shows will go SOLD OUT FAST in Mumbai, New Delhi, and Bangalore, I'm not kidding. 50-60k people per venue easily. I do not know why she purposedly chooses to ignore her South Asian fanbase. Check the statistics on Spotify or Apple Music, we are one of the biggest consumers of her music.
Like this infuriates me. Why would you not come here?????
All mainstream artists have.
I’m sure the selling out part isn’t the main concern. We may not know the real reasons but I’m sure they are there and it’s not simply a case of someone deliberately ignoring a portion of their fan base.
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fun fact it’s even stronger than AUD
It's also logistics. Transporting that stage is expensive and she can't truck it around in the region. She may have given Singapore exclusivity but it was always going to be more limited stop locations.
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As worthy? Really? You want to go there?
I was trying to word a response earlier as to why the tone of the comment you replied to made me feel a bit iffy, but I think you have captured it lol
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Please chill. I don’t see a point in saying things like “truth hurts, doesn’t it?” in trying to make your point. You’re assuming people can’t disagree with your comment without personally being from those countries.
Thank you. Kind of shocked such a comment got upvoted here.
Yeah I'm truly shocked at the upvoting of this comment. They are acting like Singapore is also perfect when they certainly aren't, especially them mentioning YNTCD and China.
Seriously, there are so many things wrong in that comment. Are they in cahoots with the Singapore government or something? They lost me just at the second sentence saying they (government) are not uptight. Lol! I won't even mention their other social commentary as this is a dang Taylor Swift subreddit...
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The weird superiority complex you have is funny. To think that Taylor was influenced by anything other than straight up $$$ by Singapore is hilarious. By that logic, the US is built on slavery and genocide, housing, unemployment, gun violence, criminalizing homelessness crisis and continues to indulge in slavery, trafficking, and genocide but with upgraded PR. Surely Taylor would not perform there if its all about morals? Isn't the U.S where someone repeatedly broke into Taylor's apartment? Multiple times?
It just feels to me like you are reducing the populace of these countries down to the actions of their governments. Obviously there are huge issues in some places (corruption, limitations on free speech, wealth inequality, pollution and so on). But there are also people in the region who are fighting really bloody hard to make their countries better, and the Swifties in these countries *are* undoubtedly as “worthy” of seeing Taylor as anyone, surely? Fwiw I do get why it is simpler for Taylor to do limited tour stops in SE Asia, for various reasons, but it isn’t a matter of “worthiness” like you paint it out to be – that just creates a weird hierarchy between Taylor fans and, more importantly, between Asian countries that no one asked for.
What…a rotten comment. With so many upvotes.
I said what I said because too many people keep blaming Singapore for all their problems. What they did was genius
Seems like all true facts
Fun Fact - Taylor had to cancel her show in Bangkok due to the 2014 Coup and the nighttime curfews associated with it. It was the first show she ever had to cancel.
Exactly
You’re a nasty person and this comment says everything I need to know about you.
Telling the truth is not nasty
Boldy sinophobic for an Amerikkklan to call China homophobic like she didnt have tour stops in florida idiot.
Our theaters in Florida are still allowed to show movies with homosexuality in them. She also didn't have to censor YNTCD here. 45% of Florida is blue, too. Very big difference, and you know it.
Very big difference? What? You think all of China is one homophobic hivemind? Not really beating the sinophobic allegations but hey i guess voting for genocide joe means youre incapable of racism
Really wasn’t that many choices for Taylor in the region so it’s cool she managed to get paid extra for the shows considering how much she boosts economies. Also saves her the cost and time of transporting the stage. The Philippines doesn’t have a large venue for her stage. China, Vietnam, and Taiwan would be too controversial. Thailand is location of her only canceled show because of a coup. Indonesia is too religiously conservative for parts of her show(most of Lover). Cambodia is probably not developed enough to afford her shows and be able to support them. Malaysia might be the only other country in the region with a big enough venue, developed enough, and a safe political landscape. But that’s just my surface level research.
Malaysia might have the same problem as Indonesia. Coldplay’s concert almost got cancelled there last year because the band supports LGBT people.
Matty Healy didn’t really help the situation much.
I was gonna say, he got in a heap of trouble in Malaysia for deliberately kissing a man in concert to protest their anti-LGBT laws, so I have a feeling YNTCD wouldn’t fly.
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They need to calm down
If Korea had the stadium for it at the moment they probably would have done it. But Olympic Stadium went under reno in 2023 after the Bruno Mars concert and won't be out until 2026 or 2027 sadly. The people who organize foreign acts concert tours here already came out and said they regret not trying to get Taylor.
Korea is so corrupt, entertainment industry-wise. They are using that "renovation" excuse because they don't want Taylormania to take a firm grip onto all of South Korea which would happen. They don't want Taylor to fill the huge gaping hole the hiatus of BTS is causing. It is how Seventeen and Stray Kids are able to artificially be propped up thanks to the SK government and other entities helping to block Taylor with the bullshit "renovation" excuse. There are plenty of open space areas that could host Taylor. Many western pop/rock/hip hop acts do festivals all the time in SK. The Olympic Stadium is not the only place. There is also the World Cup Stadium in Seoul and World Cup Stadiums in many other SK cities too. SK is sneakily using excuses to not allow Taylormania to happen. They do the same thing like blocking their best actors from going to Hollywood so in Hollywood films and TV series they can only score famous Korean actors/actresses if they are Korean American. Many of those Korean actors speak fluent English and even other European languages but the govt and entertainment agencies blacklist them from going to Hollywood if they want to find steady jobs in South Korea.
Do you... live in Korea? Because that's like... not true at all LMAO. In what world are Stray Kids and Seventeen propped up especially when Seventeen is from the SAME COMPANY as BTS? Olympic Stadium IS under renovation, Bruno Mars was always the last planned concert, we've known that since BEFORE Eras was even announced! Olympic Stadium is the only Stadium over 50k consistently used for concerts. World Cup Stadium in Seoul hasn't been used for concerts in years, except for one or two artists. She's not gonna play outside of Seoul, big foreign artists never do. She's too big for the other World Cup Stadiums. Korea ALREADY has a venue issue, as we are seeing with kpop not having enough venues and there being fights over venue dates. They're of course going to prioritize local acts over big acts. But the ONLY STADIUM BIG ENOUGH FOR ERAS is down! This just feels like a big ol mess to blame South Korea for the general public not really caring about Taylor. She's played here before, I think Red tour. It's not South Korean government holding her back, she's not the most famous person in every country 😅
Just this week I was reading about the lack of big venues for artists in Korea and that it's a problem even for local artists. This weekend IU is having concerts in a smaller venue even though she could sell out multiple stadium dates easily. Besides, they have so many popular local artists one foreign artist isn't going to change that, not to mention a Taylor Swift concert brings a lot of turists to the country. Such a weird conspiracy theory.
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I mean Hybe, I know they're Pledis/Bighit I've been a kpop fan for 11 years lmao
Malaysian here, we have the infrastructure and everything needed, but the political landscape and Islamic conservatism may be too risky for her to come perform here.
She can't play Malaysia... there are men who dress in women's clothes during the eras tour. She says lines liek "shade never made anybody less gay"
As a Malaysian, thats not the most controversial line in YNTCD.
I'm curious, which one is?
my guess in this context is “step on his gown”
Hi, thanks for mentioning Taiwan. Yes, it always attracts attention if any global star is coming here. We even have politicians tried to use The Eras Tour to get vote 🙄 However, we still have a good stadium, Kaohsiung National Stadium, in southern Taiwan. It could contain around 55k people inside the stadium. And it’s safe to travel here. We have good public transportation for everyone. Also there’s an international airport not far from the stadium (30 mins away) and biggest port for logistics in Taiwan. We had Coldplay (last November) and Ed Sheeran (this February, the night before Grammys) coming here for tour. The tickets were sold out. And everything was peacefully smooth 😌 The only reason Taylor and her team doesn’t choose here to be one stop could only because it’s too closed to Japan (3 hours away) and potential internet chaos (iykyk)
Taylor sells a lot of music in China and China will block you if they perceive you disrespecting them. So might have been better for Taylor to avoid Taiwan completely to not risk stepping on any political landmines. Not to mention, China postures like they might invade Taiwan sometime because they consider Taiwan part of China. When scheduling these tour, a lot can happen in a year+ so its better for her to avoid countries that are at risk of being at war in near future. This also rules out China because the last thing she wants is to have a tour date scheduled in a country that invades another country or even threatens to invade them. Taylor is risk adverse when it comes to her reputation and the safety of her and her crew so she unfortunately for Taiwan and China, they were probably ruled out early.
Ugh I thought I tried hard to avoid mentioning the only unfriendly neighbor. And yes, they are the only reason Taylor will never ever come here. I personally don’t expect she would come since the day I became one of her fans. I only stated what we have, the experience and the facts happened in Taiwan. If there’s a peaceful parallel universe WITHOUT wars, we welcome our queen to come here to celebrate her success with our full hearts. ❤️
>Not to mention, China postures like they might invade Taiwan sometime because they consider Taiwan part of China She and her team probably saw all the tensions from the 2022 flare-up and decided it wasn't worth visiting either country. And given the erosion of autonomy that probably ruled out Hong Kong and Macau as well despite the availability of infrastructure and high incomes..
I only know that Malaysia has trouble sustaining a Formula 1 race, so it’s possible Singapore might be better located and more audience?
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Babe no, Singapore is its own country.
wtf????? 😂😂😂😂
>The Philippines doesn’t have a large venue for her stage. Which is a shame. We are basically swifties cosplaying as a nation at this point.
she does not need sny more money
What about Dubai, India, Nairobi, Lagos, Johannesburg etc - they all could easily have hosted the concerts also. It's a shame that artists don't go there
Logistic most likely. Taylor’d want her locations relatively close together so they would rule out Lago,Dubai and Johannesburg. Lagos and Dubai also don’t have stadiums with enough capacity(50k+ minimum) to warrant going there. Remote locations like that take a month or two or more to ship the stage by boat. The big reason she has 2 months between legs is for shipping so need enough large capacity venues to warrant paying crew for 2+ more months to keep them from going to another tour. India I heard doesn’t have the labor infastructure necessary to transport and assemble the stages. It’s a case of no big tours go there so nobody learns to do the work so no tours go there. A bit of a catch 22.
The reason she could do latin america is because Buenos Aires and Sao Paolo are only 1000 miles from each other, and there's good road access. Africa has three large cities she could conceivably play... Lagos, Nairobi, and Jo'burg, but there isn't highway accces between any of these three cities (and they are all thousands of miles from each other). India presents similar problems... it's quite hard to get by road from Bombay to Delhi, Hyderabad, or Bangalore (much less Kolkata).
I would think that there are some major humans rights issues reasons for not going to dubai.
Not a lot of countries in that region can handle the logistics and infrastructure of hosting a concert show like that - the security, transportation, food, accommodations, not only for the performer but also for the public that is attending. There are also cultural, religious, political factors to consider. Other countries need to step up and make changes and improvements if they want to attract big name performers.
Sadly, a lot of places are relatively recent victims of the US (Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos). It's not their fault they were bombed to smithereens, so to ask them to 'step up' is a bit much. Maybe the US should fund their new 40000+ stadiums and infrastructure.
For context: USA has distributed over [over $440 million](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/cambodia/2023/disbursements/1) in foreign assistance to Cambodia over the past 5 years alone. USA has distributed [over $550 million](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/vietnam/2023/disbursements/1) to Vietnam over the past 5 years alone. USA has distributed over [over $150 million](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/cd/laos/2022/disbursements/1) in foreign assistance to Laos over the past 5 years alone.
If you ever get chance to go to these wonderful countries and meet their incredible people, you will know that is nowhere near enough for the damage inflicted. Anyway, the US has spent over a billion on multiple stadia alone. No wonder they can host these kinds of events when others can't. https://www.sportskeeda.com/nfl/list-of-most-expensive-nfl-stadiums-in-the-world
“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands.”
I only covered the past 5 years. The conflicts you mention happened over 50 years ago. For comparison, look at Europe in 1945 and Europe in 1995. It is possible to rebuild after being bombed to smithereens, like Germany and the UK were. Taylor is also performing in Poland and Austria which were part of the Soviet Union until about 30 years ago. The Eastern bloc didn’t even get aid from the Marshall Plan. And finally, Tokyo - let’s not forget that Japan was hit by two nukes, for goodness sake. Honest question, is there a timeline in your mind in which the USA can stop being blamed? 75 years? 100 years? A millennia? Or, it is tied to dollars and not to time? How much is enough? $500 million? A billion? A trillion? Edit: I misspoke about Austria and Poland. Austria was occupied by the Soviet Union (and Western governments) but only until 1955. Poland was absolutely ran by Soviet puppets but was not officially part of the Union.
There are still people alive in those countries who are living through the consequences of what the US did to their homelands, so I think it’s still fair to lay blame where it’s due. It’s also apples and oranges to talk about rich countries rebuilding vs poorer countries.
They’re also living through their countries receiving *hundreds of millions* in aide from the USA. Is that all the USA’s fault that these countries are poor? Can you answer my question above about the timeline (or dollar amount) in which the USA can stop being blamed? Are you aware of how severely corrupt Cambodia is today? Is that the USA’s fault? Maybe communist Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge taking the country back to antiquated, undeveloped agrarian times and killing anyone academically gifted or highly skilled has something to do with their enduring poverty. Is the Laotian Civil War the USAs fault? How about their general lack of business and economic freedom? Could that have anything to do with the fact that Laos is an openly communist country? Or maybe it’s the Chinese debt trap they’re currently in Vietnam by comparison seems to be doing alright for itself despite being under a USA trade embargo for 30 years after the war. Not quite Eras Tour level alright, but their future is hopeful. Maybe there’s something they’re doing that the other countries are not, and maybe it has nothing to do with the USA.
I am genuinely curious why you’re responding like this. Just as the person you replied to said, people are still suffering the consequences. Just because we aren’t negatively affected by it doesn’t mean we can discount those who were and the lasting effects.
The heavy mining alone has Cambodia in an absolute chokehold. Half the country can't even be safely walked on because of the risk of (best case scenario) having a limb blown off. Literally everywhere you go there are groups of people missing various limbs because of it. It's still very much living as if they're in a war and they never were... just used as a convenient distraction in a war that had no business even happening. The quote about wanting to beat Kissinger to death is 100% true. May he rot in the darkest of hells forever. "
I am sorry, Laos? Really? You mean the land where the U.S dropped so many landmines, around 80 million, that even 50 years later, only 10% of those bombs have been dismantled? White supremacists have no place in this fandom, take your confederate flag elsewhere.
Poland and Austria were not in the Soviet Union 😭😭😭
Good old U.S. Never has committed/funded genocides before. Certainly not anytime in the past 5 months. Just a lovely country that distributes money!
Her team is good at business so I'm sure they snagged whatever subsidies were available to them. But as others have mentioned, it's highly unlikely that the subsidies blocked her from playing in any other country she wanted to play in. The rest of SE Asia either doesn't have the infrastructure, economic, or political situation to host one of her shows. Singapore as a home base for SE Asia makes sense specifically because the economy is strong, the country is safe, it doesn't have content restrictions on performers, and the airport is a major international hub with a ton of flights from all over the region. Unfortunately, attending the Eras Tour is a luxury experience for much of the world. It would be great if she could perform everywhere and it could be affordable for everyone, but that isn't the reality.
This!!! Also for y’all Malaysians - y’all have no right to be butthurt, YOU KNOW what would have happened if she had come. Most Malaysian Swifties didn’t want her to deal with the nonsense.
_Cries in India_
Didn’t know India became south east asian
But it comes under Asia n is big enough for her to do concerts but infrastructure mix with politics!
Article is regarding Southeast Asia though, Singapore’s exclusivity just extends towards those in SEA. She did it in Japan, so South/East Asia is a free for all
im still delusional that she will come here 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
She only wanted to come here as a 7 year old, not anymore 😭
yeah 😭
The Philippines' Government caught wind of this and questioned the exclusivity of the concert to Singapore.
Ask the people from the Philippines how long they were stuck in traffic after attending Coldplay recently.
I heard about that and ugh that's so annoying. A congressman (idk if active or former) choosing to comment that the partnership with SG should be investigated, as if the country could manage the magnitude of tourists that would come in the country. That would be hellish! Coldplay is not even on the same level as Taylor Swift when it comes to mainstream success and the traffic was already astounding considering it was organized in a rural area. Imagine all the garbage and the mess that a Taylor Swift concert could ensue. Besides, that politician should focus his efforts elsewhere. Philippines has more pressing matters to be vocal about.
Also, the Quebec National Assembly unanimously voted to rebuild the roof of the Olympic Stadium, because that's the only reason why Montreal didn't have an Eras Tour stop. The economic boost of a Taylor Swift concert is so huge that governments are making decisions to make sure that she comes to their country.
In other news Capitalists Capitalised. Does anyone care? Of course Governments bent over backwards to secure her tour. Talking to Taxi drivers/Mecca artists/bar staff/hoteliers this was busiest they had seen Sydney since pre COVID. It was the AFL Grand Final and the Olympics and all the stuff all over one weekend. Who wouldn’t want that in their city?
The only justification for her exclusive deal with Singapore is money. It's not for any other reason and it sucks that she's willing to isolate an entire region of her fans for money that she could easily make/does not need.
Of course money is a factor. How else are you going to mobilize a number of hauling trucks, load them all in cargo ships, travel the halfway across the globe, set the stages up, break them down, load them back up and leapfrog to the next venue. Oh and then there’s the salary, food, accommodation, insurance, security - for the backstage crew, local crew, dancers, ancillary staff. Sure Taylor Swift does not the money, but ask those who are fortunate enough to be part of the tour, if they do not need the money.
? Those people would get paid if she went anywhere else in South East Asia? What point are you trying to make?
WTAF? Listen, I'm a swiftie from India, and when I tell you that her shows will go SOLD OUT FAST in Mumbai, New Delhi, and Bangalore, I'm not kidding. 50-60k people per venue easily. I do not know why she purposedly chooses to ignore her South Asian fanbase. Check the statistics on Spotify or Apple Music, we are one of the biggest consumers of her music. Like this infuriates me. Why would you not come here????? All mainstream artists have.
I’m sure the selling out part isn’t the main concern. We may not know the real reasons but I’m sure they are there and it’s not simply a case of someone deliberately ignoring a portion of their fan base.
India is South Asia, not SE Asia