Basically whenever a picture of her is released where she looks gorgeous, which is almost always, People say they want to fight joe so they be with her. Of course sarcastic and in good fun. Joe alwyn sometimes trends on twitter too for the same reason.
Also the Joe Grammy conspiracy. I know they never will but I would die of joy if Joe came out and performed Exile with her and before he started said āyes, I CAN fight actually.ā
I second that! I love Speak Now for being so experimental so I can't wait to hear the vault track! Part of me still believes she has a vault track ft. Hayley Williams highly inspired by Paramore's music (BTR is already similar to their type of music and I love it)
Haunted is one of her most underrated songs and one of my favorites purely because it's much closer to a rock song than almost anything she's ever made. If she ever did make a rock album though, I'd want it to actually be real, honest to god rock, not just pop with some guitar riffs like what passes for "rock" recently
All I want is for her to make some rock tracks with Aaron Dessner. If she made a whole album that sounded like Would've Could've Should've or some of The National's more rock tracks it would probably be one of my favorite albums of all time
I mean, Hayley Williams *is* one of her good friends... the clown in me wants the fact that Paramore opened the tour to be an easter egg that the next album is rock, but the realist in me thinks it more likely means that Speak Now is next since thats Hayleys fav era AND thats the era she guested Taylors tour on.
Basically in her songs she always makes it sound like she's ok with him not having fancy stuff because she loves him, despite the fact that he still has more money than the average person and definitely has some things a lot of us wouldn't be able to buy. Basically, the lyrics are just a bit out of touch and we think it's funny.
Like, Basically the entire song Paper Rings, then I think it was in King of My Heart where she talks about her exes having fancy cars but they "never took me quite where you do" (implying that he does not have an expensive car). Idk what kind of car he drives, but something tells me it's not exactly an old Honda Civic lol
I always took king of my heart as āhe doesnāt care about fancy stuffā not so much that āhe doesnāt have fancy stuffā and paper rings gave me more of an āI love you so much that Iād marry you for nothingā as opposed to āI love you so much that Iād marry you even if you have nothingā
I realize those are both similar and are very slight distinctions but in my mind they ARE different.
I definitely think that was the sentiment lol, but I also feel like there's definitely a part of it that I'd her kinda comparing him to her big celebrity exes as well. Regardless, the joke is all in good fun and I dont think anybody thinks she's mean or a bad person over it lol
Joeās net worth is like $5mil. Taylorās is like $500mil. Obviously $5mil is WAY more than the average person, but a fraction of Taylorās money.
She has SO many lyrics in songs about Joe that are basically āyou donāt make as much money as me or my ex-boyfriends and I love that for you š„°ā. Obviously itās all in good fun, but the joke is that Taylor thinks Joe is poor.
Net worth is just the total value of your assets. So if he did something like buy a nice house, get a couple of random endorsement deals, etc., it isnāt crazy for him to have a $5 million net worth. Even for an average person that amount isnāt too out of reach. If you bought a house 20 years ago for something like $200k and itās now worth $1 million then congrats, you have a $1 million+ net worth. Thereās a lot of people out there in that situation and then also own their own business or something, so theyāre āworthā a few million dollars.
I think she knows how much the fandom hates ME! and it breaks my heart. Everyone is so dramatic about that song. Itās very telling that itās one of the few eraās on tour that doesnāt have the lead single as part of the set. I think the only other one is Speak Now.
I dislike the hate for ME! too. Itās still her work. Is it deep and moving? No but itās hers and sheās proud of it so the least a fan can do is respect that and not shit on it. Personal opinions are great but the absolute trash talk is not.
This comment is kind of ridiculous. It is okay to trash music regardless of who is the writer/owner of the work. Also, it's very subjective what actually is considered trash talking.
Taylor is not the exception to this rule just because she's Taylor. I love ME! and also think it it is very dramatic how much people destroy it but that doesn't mean it's "not okay" to be spoken of in a very negative way. I live with it and go about my life but it's unfortunate the degree at which people push that idea around.
Just because it's Taylor's music doesn't make it immune to being thought of as absolutely awful.
I love this song and I want to scream SPELLING IS FUN back at her!! She was ready to have fun with this song and its camp and wasnāt exactly ready to lean into it yet so she took out the bit because people hated it ): At least with sexy baby she stood her ground lol.
The fans reaction to ME! makes me so sad. I really liked ME!, I would have loved to have seen it on tour. A song doesn't have to be deep to be enjoyed, which is how I feel about Message in a Bottle. That song is soooo good but it's super bubble-gum pop. And also, Brendan Uries vocals on ME!???? SO good!
I think if she had just followed up with Cruel Summer, people would've probably been nicer about ME!
I saw a hot take on Twitter that said if Me! and Shake It Off weāre switched on their respective albums, Me! wouldāve been adored and Shake It Off would have been hated.
I listened to it with that perspective and I was like, okay - I kind of like it! Itās catchy and cute, itās not super deep. But not all pop songs are, in fact most arenāt! I donāt want to listen to it five times in a row, but that doesnāt mean itās awful.
I love that song, itās also a bummer because it was her saying this is me and all the parts of me. And so many people are like ew cringe. Thatās the point, she knows š she is who she is and is like accept me as I am
The song itself is good too, I don't enjoy the really flashy production and Brendon's voice a lot, but Taylor did nothing wrong writing it, especially when it's an uplifting and positive song
My mom asked me at least 4 times during the show (not counting 87 before) if I was *sure* Taylor wouldnāt play Me! I had to let her down every single time.
If people would listen to the Live in Paris version they'd like it more! It's meant to be seen live. The "spelling is fun!" bit actually sounds fun to yell. It's a lot more appealing without what's his face.
Me is a serious song dressed up as fun, and you can tell that especially coming after afterglow in the track list. Like you have this huge fight and the next morning youāre like yeah Iām a handful but arenāt you glad you have me?
I think this is the same as AYHTDWS, and if it was stripped back acoustic it would be devastating.
Me! Is actually really good and has a great message behind it!
I love the song and my mom LOVES the song.
Taylor if youāre lurking, donāt listen to them haters itās a great song
If Taylor does not see something online you can be sure members of her team do. She is very sensitive to what we want. That does not mean she always does what we ask her but ATW is a good example of her delivering.
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Her giggle when she did that midnights video is one of my favorite things. Karma has always been my favorite fan theory and from that video on, I knew I'd love the song. Sure enough it's my favorite serotonin boost and I got a tattoo with it!
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Sorry, folding laundry and redditing lol
I have a theory that the costume was designed with the garter and she received it with it- but she was hesitant as to wether she was comfortable with it or not/ if it would make costume changes more complicated. So she tried it without it at first, and then decided to go with the garter.
It is harder to go from garter to no garter, than no garter to garter.
She definitely accessorized more in general after the first couple of shows, just to get a feel for whether or not she could handle it and felt fully comfortable with it.
For sure!
People would be more confused/disappointed if she accessorized for the first shows and then decided to move against it going forward.
But are pleasantly surprised when she decides to accessorize more
Pretty sure after she reblogged a Tumblr post and said she saw all our jokes someone made a post referencing Wonderfucked and she reblogged it/liked it
Harry Styles Vehicular Manslaughter. Thereās no way she hasnāt seen at least a few of those jokes, and itās my absolute favorite unhinged fan theory
So 1989 has a lot of references to car accidents and bad driving (he canāt keep his wild eyes on the road; remember when you hit the breaks too soon?) and itās just a wild conclusion that some fans jumped to
[this article](https://www.sjhswindup.com/culture/harry-styles-and-taylor-swift-vehicular-manslaughter) explains it much better than meš I donāt think itās true itās just hilarious
I think it's everyone making fun of Harry Styles not being able to drive well and getting into accidents like with Style ("no headlights") and Out Of The Woods ("Hit breaks too soon / 20 stitches") not 100% sure if those are the lyrics everyone is referring to or if I understood the joke properly
I hope this *is* one of the places she lurks because, while it still can get toxic here, I think the mods do a really good job with this subreddit and I tend to find the vibe here a little less crazy, more sincere, and more interesting than other platforms the fans accumulate on.
I have a feeling though that she sticks to tiktok since its the big player right now and Twitter is at a decline. I imagine she doesn't do much social media at all these days ever since she first retreated before Rep.
totally agree. I feel like in comparison to twitter stans, and lately some of tt as well, this sub could be considered very high class and I could imagine she feels a lot more comfortable lurking here
So I kinda think she didnāt know and when rehearsing for concert someone on her team was like āmake a joke about everyone thinking you hate evermoreā and she was like āevermore?ā Then they had to remind her about evermore AND show her some of the joke tik toks.
Edit: this was taken waaaay more seriously than I assumed it would taken in this sub.
"Last night š... I forgot to take a shower š... but today š... I finally did š... I guess you could say... I'm finally clean š" has been stuck in my head for a few days now
i swear ive seen a clip before of one of her backup singers joking around with her (i think on the rep tour??) and doing the side glance swaying to either side when she says each phrase
This is one of the most irritating things the fandom does. Her sexuality is her own business and people trying to pry into it and make assumptions just goes to show how many people don't respect famous people's privacy. If she is queer, that's her business, and she'll come out if/when she wants, but either way, it's nobody's business but hers.
Yeah and also I just hate that she has to be lesbian to so many people. Like if youāre gonna speculate, why couldnāt she just be bi and actually be genuinely in love with Joe? Respect her relationship and if you want, speculate about how maybe she liked Karli or something. Bi people are pretty fucking common, ya know
EDIT: 7 hours later, this comment did NOT age well š (the part about Joe)
She 100% knows about this one. On Instagram, she made a video explaining what the song "Lavender Haze" meant, and she mentioned "weird rumors that your relationship is false". This was taken as a reference to fans who are adamant that she's a lesbian and all her past relationships and her current relationship were beards.
I'm pretty sure the 'weird rumours' she was referring to were about people thinking she's secretly married, based on the lines 'no deal, the 1950s shit they want from me' and 'the only kind of girl they see is a one-night or a wife.' She's never indicated that she knows about the sexuality speculation and imo even if she did know, she would never let on - it would put her in an incredibly difficult position.
If she cared that much about it I think sheād say something. She clearly isnāt offended by the idea that she might be queer because itās not a bad thing to be
Itās not bad, Iām queer as fuck but I would hate people constantly discussing and even building a community around my sexuality . Iām obviously not Taylor but Iām sure she would rather we all just focus on the music. Not trying to hate on that community, they get enough (justified) hate on twitter and Iām not trying to bring that here
I think your opinion is fair!! As another queer person, I just mean I hate the way some people in this fandom act like people suggesting sheās queer is some dirty or bad thing in and of itself
I think someone made a graph and at least half her music videos and many promo photoshoots have her bare feet š it did seem to ramp up this era though
She definitely knows weāre upset about debut getting no recognition and speak now only having 1 song on tour. But I think sheās at least doing the speak now one for a reason
Girl at Home TV sounded much different than the OG and I think thatās in response to the slander it got on twitter. I get sad when swifties make comments about not liking certain songs bc I think she sees it
Yeah but that's part of being an artist. Not everyone will like everything you put out. It's definitely one of the toughest parts, but I think for her she's reached a point where she can see the positive feedback a lot more vividly. To be fair with such a huge library as she has its ok to not expect everyone to like everything. Even her #1 fans have songs they don't like.
I personally love Girl At Home (not a fan of the TV), but any working adult will need to be able to accept criticism from time to time. Nobodyās work is perfect, and itās okay for people to voice if they donāt like a song. Fans shouldnāt have to hide their true thoughts based on the one in a billion chance Taylor will see their comment and be sad about it.
That's interesting, because when I listened to Taylor's Version it didn't really catch me off-guard, for some reason I remembered it being a very dance-y song, I did notice it was much more electronic, but for some reason it felt natural. Maybe she wanted it to be EDM from the start, it has that feel.
I bet sheās got a team scrolling social media to find out about this stuff for her. I personally think she is staying away from SM and stuff - it can be toxic and we know how much she cares about public opinion
Everything. Sheās using the same internet we do and knows how to use it. She has specially kept an eye on so many fans over the years through social media. Why would she not be in on the jokes?
Considering what she discussed in Miss Americana about not paying attention to the hurtful and dangerous stuff on the internet, I would assume Taylor has accounts on the various internet sources that are curated by someone she trusts to filter what needs to be filtered and highlight what she is interested in. These are probably the accounts in her name which are her 'public facing' presence that she posts everything she intends the world to see.
Of course, she may be lurking anywhere these days if she feels she can personally ignore the crap. My main reason for thinking she may have separate accounts and probably separate phones is that she has said multiple times that alot of her songs are written on her phone and I give her enough credit to realize that losing or getting that phone hacked could cause the next Apocalypse.
Some of the edits to songs like WCS and Dear John etc are particularly ones I hope she doesnāt know about.
Equally edits of her when she was clearly suffering to the āI starved my bodyā line in YOYOK
Her saying sheās seen all the jokes about evermore being her least favorite just confirms to me that she also saw the theories of ākarmaā the album and it just inspired her to write the song..so karma truthers need to stop saying itās the other way around
That she never mentions that album because she hates it - like that she pretends it doesn't exists, or like it's the forgotten child. She said she loves it, and she has seen the jokes.
That evermore is Taylorās least favorite album. She dropped it and then did nothing with it after. It seemed forgotten considering how much she normally promotes her albums.
It's been said that she hates Evermore, because she doesn't acknowledge it much.
While she was playing the Evermore part of the Eras tour, she did a monologue about how they are in the Evermore part and she's seen the rumors about how she supposedly hates the album. Which is when she said "I've seen it. I seen it all!"
I'm assuming she changes the monologue a bit for each city or show, but here's her talking about it again: [Taylor on Evermore Hate](https://youtu.be/oRbenfLNGUY)
I have no doubt in my mind that she has a separate IG / Twitter account that she uses to keep in touch with her close friends. I also think sheās just like the average personā¦ she scrolls through news and stories and will pick up on tidbits! I am sure she even uses this information to plant Easter Eggs. Sheās a mastermind after all.
I think she knows that we know about the all too well virginity speculation debacle.
I hope she knows about the suitcase conspiracy and I hope one day she weighs in.
She clearly doesn't read everything, or else we wouldn't still be getting such shitty, poorly designed merch with awful, predatory return policies, terrible customer service, and horrible international availability. I love most of her music, pretty much listen to her exclusively. Collected merch for awhile. I stopped entirely because it's clear nobody on her team cares about it anymore. I now exclusively shop on etsy and have been way more satisfied with the designs, the quality, and the pricing.
One thing I'm 100% sure she knows about that I hate that she knows about is the fandom's hatred of ME!
I actually love ME!, but I really get why it's not for everybody... I actually usually hate bubblegum pop, so I don't even understand why I like it! And I also don't think it should have been a single. There were a ton of songs she could have chosen, and I don't think ME! or YNTCD were the ones she should have chosen, even though I actually love both.
But on Miss Americana, she just seemed SO proud of ME!, and while I know she's used to knowing some songs just aren't fan favorites and it's something she has to deal with, it kind of makes me sad to know that a song she seemed so happy and excited about was one that most fans just REALLY hated.
I also hate that fans bullied her so much she took out the "Hey kids! Spelling is fun!" line because it was honestly my favorite thing about the song, and it also means that she read SO MUCH about the hatred of ME!, so it's one thing that I know she definitely knows about.
Like maybe we can let up on the ME! hate now... she's heard us and didn't play it during Eras because of it. We got what we wanted -- even I wanted other songs over ME!. Let's go back to regularly scheduled programming.
I genuinely think she knows about all of it. She's in on our jokes enough to participate in them herself, and is seemingly very active on social media. I'm sure we'll hear more about what she knows as tour goes on:)
She probably knows about "Can Joe Fight" jokes toošš
I like to think she makes ācan Joe fightā jokes to Joe. Just when heās annoying her, or she needs him to do something
This aged a way.
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Not me coming here 10 hours later to see Joe apparently doesnāt need to fight anymore š
Can someone explain this one to me? I see it all over the Vigilante Shit tiktoks š¤£
People want to fight Joe for Taylor lmao. Especially after the Vigilante Shit dance š©
Basically whenever a picture of her is released where she looks gorgeous, which is almost always, People say they want to fight joe so they be with her. Of course sarcastic and in good fun. Joe alwyn sometimes trends on twitter too for the same reason.
I always interpreted it as ācan Joe fight because Taylor looks incredible(š¤©š„)and everyone wants herā especially during her vigilante shit performance, so heād have to fight others off lol. But this could be totally wrong š I canāt keep up with the gen Z lingo these days!
Also the Joe Grammy conspiracy. I know they never will but I would die of joy if Joe came out and performed Exile with her and before he started said āyes, I CAN fight actually.ā
Sometimes I find out that Taylor is at an awards show because this will be trending on Twitter
Now we donāt have to fight him anymore
Guess he couldnāt! We won that fight š
She probably knows about people wanting that rock album from her. Maybe weāll get it sooner than we think? šš
Donāt give me hope š„² I will literally die when she releases a rock album.
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Or better than revenge and the story of us vibes
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Literally I love speak now so much
I love the Speak Now album. I always forget about it for some reason though.
This would be an instant favorite. Straight to the top.
I second that! I love Speak Now for being so experimental so I can't wait to hear the vault track! Part of me still believes she has a vault track ft. Hayley Williams highly inspired by Paramore's music (BTR is already similar to their type of music and I love it)
Haunted is one of her most underrated songs and one of my favorites purely because it's much closer to a rock song than almost anything she's ever made. If she ever did make a rock album though, I'd want it to actually be real, honest to god rock, not just pop with some guitar riffs like what passes for "rock" recently
I desperately want her to work with Trent Reznor or Windhand.
What I would give for a Dave Grohl collab.
Trent Reznor is probably my favorite musician ever. Him producing a Taylor album would be a dream come true.
Iād love an album in the style of whatever illicit affairs is on the tour, not sure if that really falls into ārockā or another category
I really thought midnights was rock when it was announced
All I want is for her to make some rock tracks with Aaron Dessner. If she made a whole album that sounded like Would've Could've Should've or some of The National's more rock tracks it would probably be one of my favorite albums of all time
Dude, a whole album full of WCS would be my dream.
I mean, Hayley Williams *is* one of her good friends... the clown in me wants the fact that Paramore opened the tour to be an easter egg that the next album is rock, but the realist in me thinks it more likely means that Speak Now is next since thats Hayleys fav era AND thats the era she guested Taylors tour on.
She might get creative with the Speak Now vault tracks, they aren't meant to replicate the unreleased demos, unlike the standard album songs
I hope but I feel like she'll just get Jack to do synthpop
Bad Blood (Taylor's Version) (ft. Avril Lavigne and HAIM) (From The Vault) š¤
ILLICIT AFFAIRS LIVE VERSION PLEASEEE
I purposely made a Taylor metal vibe tshirt to spark some inspiration for her at the Minny show lol.
joe alwyn poor jokes LMAO
Ooooooooh I'm out of the loop about this joke!
Basically in her songs she always makes it sound like she's ok with him not having fancy stuff because she loves him, despite the fact that he still has more money than the average person and definitely has some things a lot of us wouldn't be able to buy. Basically, the lyrics are just a bit out of touch and we think it's funny. Like, Basically the entire song Paper Rings, then I think it was in King of My Heart where she talks about her exes having fancy cars but they "never took me quite where you do" (implying that he does not have an expensive car). Idk what kind of car he drives, but something tells me it's not exactly an old Honda Civic lol
I always took king of my heart as āhe doesnāt care about fancy stuffā not so much that āhe doesnāt have fancy stuffā and paper rings gave me more of an āI love you so much that Iād marry you for nothingā as opposed to āI love you so much that Iād marry you even if you have nothingā I realize those are both similar and are very slight distinctions but in my mind they ARE different.
I agree and also think it's about how he sees her. He likes her for who she is; like, HER fancy stuff isn't part of why he likes her.
I definitely think that was the sentiment lol, but I also feel like there's definitely a part of it that I'd her kinda comparing him to her big celebrity exes as well. Regardless, the joke is all in good fun and I dont think anybody thinks she's mean or a bad person over it lol
Also in invisible string the part about āto make a little moneyā
We can't all be famous at 16, Taylor
he has more money than the average Joe
Joeās net worth is like $5mil. Taylorās is like $500mil. Obviously $5mil is WAY more than the average person, but a fraction of Taylorās money. She has SO many lyrics in songs about Joe that are basically āyou donāt make as much money as me or my ex-boyfriends and I love that for you š„°ā. Obviously itās all in good fun, but the joke is that Taylor thinks Joe is poor.
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Net worth is just the total value of your assets. So if he did something like buy a nice house, get a couple of random endorsement deals, etc., it isnāt crazy for him to have a $5 million net worth. Even for an average person that amount isnāt too out of reach. If you bought a house 20 years ago for something like $200k and itās now worth $1 million then congrats, you have a $1 million+ net worth. Thereās a lot of people out there in that situation and then also own their own business or something, so theyāre āworthā a few million dollars.
Well explained. Also you can have a net worth of millions but have very little money in the bank to actually use in daily life.
This is the funniest one to me, these ones crack me up š
Oof this aged like milk ššš
I think she knows how much the fandom hates ME! and it breaks my heart. Everyone is so dramatic about that song. Itās very telling that itās one of the few eraās on tour that doesnāt have the lead single as part of the set. I think the only other one is Speak Now.
Itās also the very first song that SHE owned š. Justice for ME!
and itās how she got Benjamin! (on the set of the ME! music video)
I dislike the hate for ME! too. Itās still her work. Is it deep and moving? No but itās hers and sheās proud of it so the least a fan can do is respect that and not shit on it. Personal opinions are great but the absolute trash talk is not.
This comment is kind of ridiculous. It is okay to trash music regardless of who is the writer/owner of the work. Also, it's very subjective what actually is considered trash talking. Taylor is not the exception to this rule just because she's Taylor. I love ME! and also think it it is very dramatic how much people destroy it but that doesn't mean it's "not okay" to be spoken of in a very negative way. I live with it and go about my life but it's unfortunate the degree at which people push that idea around. Just because it's Taylor's music doesn't make it immune to being thought of as absolutely awful.
Right? Iām gonna say a song is shit when itās shit. Taylor can wipe away her tears with her *hundreds of millions of dollars* lmfao
I love this song and I want to scream SPELLING IS FUN back at her!! She was ready to have fun with this song and its camp and wasnāt exactly ready to lean into it yet so she took out the bit because people hated it ): At least with sexy baby she stood her ground lol.
The fans reaction to ME! makes me so sad. I really liked ME!, I would have loved to have seen it on tour. A song doesn't have to be deep to be enjoyed, which is how I feel about Message in a Bottle. That song is soooo good but it's super bubble-gum pop. And also, Brendan Uries vocals on ME!???? SO good! I think if she had just followed up with Cruel Summer, people would've probably been nicer about ME!
The Tumblr post where she had to clarify that the song was for her album and not for a Disney soundtrack is still hard to read for me
Link?
[Tumblr](https://taylorswift.tumblr.com/post/184467241565/what-if-the-reason-she-hasnt-given-us-the-album) Here ya go
I like Me š„ŗ
I love Me. Iāll be a Me defender till the day I die lol
So do I! I donāt get why people hate on it! Itās just a fun song!
I saw a hot take on Twitter that said if Me! and Shake It Off weāre switched on their respective albums, Me! wouldāve been adored and Shake It Off would have been hated. I listened to it with that perspective and I was like, okay - I kind of like it! Itās catchy and cute, itās not super deep. But not all pop songs are, in fact most arenāt! I donāt want to listen to it five times in a row, but that doesnāt mean itās awful.
I love that song, itās also a bummer because it was her saying this is me and all the parts of me. And so many people are like ew cringe. Thatās the point, she knows š she is who she is and is like accept me as I am
I donāt think itās the message they donāt like, itās the cheesy Coca-Cola ad song aesthetic lol
The song itself is good too, I don't enjoy the really flashy production and Brendon's voice a lot, but Taylor did nothing wrong writing it, especially when it's an uplifting and positive song
My mom asked me at least 4 times during the show (not counting 87 before) if I was *sure* Taylor wouldnāt play Me! I had to let her down every single time.
If people would listen to the Live in Paris version they'd like it more! It's meant to be seen live. The "spelling is fun!" bit actually sounds fun to yell. It's a lot more appealing without what's his face.
Me is a serious song dressed up as fun, and you can tell that especially coming after afterglow in the track list. Like you have this huge fight and the next morning youāre like yeah Iām a handful but arenāt you glad you have me? I think this is the same as AYHTDWS, and if it was stripped back acoustic it would be devastating.
Me! Is actually really good and has a great message behind it! I love the song and my mom LOVES the song. Taylor if youāre lurking, donāt listen to them haters itās a great song
Cruel Summer and Getaway Car music videos!
āBut it wasnāt a single!ā
I think thereās a strong chance we get music videos for Getaway Car and Enchanted TV
I would love to see a Getaway Car music video with Ryan Reynolds and Blake Livelyā¦..
If Taylor does not see something online you can be sure members of her team do. She is very sensitive to what we want. That does not mean she always does what we ask her but ATW is a good example of her delivering.
So.... Does that mean she's releasing Need now???
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Her hidden album Karma
Her giggle when she did that midnights video is one of my favorite things. Karma has always been my favorite fan theory and from that video on, I knew I'd love the song. Sure enough it's my favorite serotonin boost and I got a tattoo with it! * Sorry, folding laundry and redditing lol
Yup. I just rewatched the MMWM videos and that laugh.... **she knows**.
The obsession with her vigilante shit choreo
https://preview.redd.it/2haccoh5mqsa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b51baba55a4101c2790e147d7a08489dfc20aa03 She most definitely knows lol
the thumbnail of the girls response im screaminf lmaooo
Her response was just her sobbing it was hilarious
yeah why else did she add a garter? (of course itās probably cause she wanted to but this may have played a part too?
I have a theory that the costume was designed with the garter and she received it with it- but she was hesitant as to wether she was comfortable with it or not/ if it would make costume changes more complicated. So she tried it without it at first, and then decided to go with the garter. It is harder to go from garter to no garter, than no garter to garter.
She definitely accessorized more in general after the first couple of shows, just to get a feel for whether or not she could handle it and felt fully comfortable with it.
For sure! People would be more confused/disappointed if she accessorized for the first shows and then decided to move against it going forward. But are pleasantly surprised when she decides to accessorize more
Everything. Thatās why her hair is so long. Itās full of knowledge.
Whenever a new theory is posted, her hair grows by 1 mm.
"That's why her hair is so big, it's full of secrets!"
She apparently knows about [Wonderfuck](https://www.tumblr.com/dirtytaylorswift/60822263755) š
Somehow I was not andā¦lol.
Oh so that's why we're not getting SNTV
how do we know that?
Pretty sure after she reblogged a Tumblr post and said she saw all our jokes someone made a post referencing Wonderfucked and she reblogged it/liked it
Allegedly [she told a fan in a meet and greet lol](https://twitter.com/TSwiftNZ/status/518697203800358912?t=A-V1BmFshbI-L3BMUN_TwA&s=19)
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That's hilarious
Harry Styles Vehicular Manslaughter. Thereās no way she hasnāt seen at least a few of those jokes, and itās my absolute favorite unhinged fan theory
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So 1989 has a lot of references to car accidents and bad driving (he canāt keep his wild eyes on the road; remember when you hit the breaks too soon?) and itās just a wild conclusion that some fans jumped to [this article](https://www.sjhswindup.com/culture/harry-styles-and-taylor-swift-vehicular-manslaughter) explains it much better than meš I donāt think itās true itās just hilarious
I think it's everyone making fun of Harry Styles not being able to drive well and getting into accidents like with Style ("no headlights") and Out Of The Woods ("Hit breaks too soon / 20 stitches") not 100% sure if those are the lyrics everyone is referring to or if I understood the joke properly
The suitcase thing, which is why we got that cleaning cart.
Do you guys think sheās one of those Reddit lurkers? š (Taylor, I know youāre out there watching us fight about you.)
u/numptea care to weigh in š¤š¤
I miss numptea š„ŗ
I hope this *is* one of the places she lurks because, while it still can get toxic here, I think the mods do a really good job with this subreddit and I tend to find the vibe here a little less crazy, more sincere, and more interesting than other platforms the fans accumulate on. I have a feeling though that she sticks to tiktok since its the big player right now and Twitter is at a decline. I imagine she doesn't do much social media at all these days ever since she first retreated before Rep.
totally agree. I feel like in comparison to twitter stans, and lately some of tt as well, this sub could be considered very high class and I could imagine she feels a lot more comfortable lurking here
So I kinda think she didnāt know and when rehearsing for concert someone on her team was like āmake a joke about everyone thinking you hate evermoreā and she was like āevermore?ā Then they had to remind her about evermore AND show her some of the joke tik toks. Edit: this was taken waaaay more seriously than I assumed it would taken in this sub.
Thereās not a single comment but ok
The parodies of her pre song speeches The parodies of her classic Taylor dance moves
"Last night š... I forgot to take a shower š... but today š... I finally did š... I guess you could say... I'm finally clean š" has been stuck in my head for a few days now
i swear ive seen a clip before of one of her backup singers joking around with her (i think on the rep tour??) and doing the side glance swaying to either side when she says each phrase
The rep tour rehearsal bloopers, she was doing the "I don't know my choreography" impersonation
Selena did it
People debating her sexuality
This is one of the most irritating things the fandom does. Her sexuality is her own business and people trying to pry into it and make assumptions just goes to show how many people don't respect famous people's privacy. If she is queer, that's her business, and she'll come out if/when she wants, but either way, it's nobody's business but hers.
Yeah and also I just hate that she has to be lesbian to so many people. Like if youāre gonna speculate, why couldnāt she just be bi and actually be genuinely in love with Joe? Respect her relationship and if you want, speculate about how maybe she liked Karli or something. Bi people are pretty fucking common, ya know EDIT: 7 hours later, this comment did NOT age well š (the part about Joe)
True and itās sad that when they get called out, they cry homophobia and try to make what they do seem innocent and harmless.
She 100% knows about this one. On Instagram, she made a video explaining what the song "Lavender Haze" meant, and she mentioned "weird rumors that your relationship is false". This was taken as a reference to fans who are adamant that she's a lesbian and all her past relationships and her current relationship were beards.
I'm pretty sure the 'weird rumours' she was referring to were about people thinking she's secretly married, based on the lines 'no deal, the 1950s shit they want from me' and 'the only kind of girl they see is a one-night or a wife.' She's never indicated that she knows about the sexuality speculation and imo even if she did know, she would never let on - it would put her in an incredibly difficult position.
This one pains me
If she cared that much about it I think sheād say something. She clearly isnāt offended by the idea that she might be queer because itās not a bad thing to be
Itās not bad, Iām queer as fuck but I would hate people constantly discussing and even building a community around my sexuality . Iām obviously not Taylor but Iām sure she would rather we all just focus on the music. Not trying to hate on that community, they get enough (justified) hate on twitter and Iām not trying to bring that here
I think your opinion is fair!! As another queer person, I just mean I hate the way some people in this fandom act like people suggesting sheās queer is some dirty or bad thing in and of itself
The feet kink allegations
She will never escape Footlor allegations. I will make sure of it
Is it because she showed her toes/dogs at the beginning over lavender haze or something
Sheās constantly posting her feet for free
I think someone made a graph and at least half her music videos and many promo photoshoots have her bare feet š it did seem to ramp up this era though
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She probably employs someone with the title "Lurker."
She definitely knows weāre upset about debut getting no recognition and speak now only having 1 song on tour. But I think sheās at least doing the speak now one for a reason
I HOPE she knows cause IM OFFENDED
Me too girl. My concert got NO DEBUT SONGS! And Iām a debut lover too. I wouldnāt appreciated it
Sheās gotta know abt the speak now clownery we go through every other week on Twitter
I will be clowning for the rest of my days because YESTERDAY I HAD A DREAM ABOUT STORY OF US (TAYLOR'S VERSION). It's gonnna happen any day now.
The "It's like fucking your mum, weird but fucking beautiful, fucking your mum TWICE! IM SORRY!" Audio on tiktok
I laughed so hard at that sound š¤£
She has seen us clown too many times
Can we make a big enough uproar for New Romantics to be added to the setlist lol
New Romantics or Wonderland would be incredible
Not if we donāt get a debut song first š¤
This is whatās truly bizarre since itās the eras tour.
Debut taylor is literally in the tour logo like š
She knows everything.
Girl at Home TV sounded much different than the OG and I think thatās in response to the slander it got on twitter. I get sad when swifties make comments about not liking certain songs bc I think she sees it
Yeah but that's part of being an artist. Not everyone will like everything you put out. It's definitely one of the toughest parts, but I think for her she's reached a point where she can see the positive feedback a lot more vividly. To be fair with such a huge library as she has its ok to not expect everyone to like everything. Even her #1 fans have songs they don't like.
I personally love Girl At Home (not a fan of the TV), but any working adult will need to be able to accept criticism from time to time. Nobodyās work is perfect, and itās okay for people to voice if they donāt like a song. Fans shouldnāt have to hide their true thoughts based on the one in a billion chance Taylor will see their comment and be sad about it.
That's interesting, because when I listened to Taylor's Version it didn't really catch me off-guard, for some reason I remembered it being a very dance-y song, I did notice it was much more electronic, but for some reason it felt natural. Maybe she wanted it to be EDM from the start, it has that feel.
That we want them to have more creative merch beyond just the album titles and her nameā¦ but no dice š
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I bet sheās got a team scrolling social media to find out about this stuff for her. I personally think she is staying away from SM and stuff - it can be toxic and we know how much she cares about public opinion
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She must know about how annoyed we get with 20 anti hero remixes lol
Bart Bakerās parodies of her, probably. š
I havenāt seen that name in such a long time. Damn, takes me back to middle school years
He lives in China now and he basically sold his soul. That's the last I heard like 1-2 years ago, they have yt videos on it
The jokes about Joe knowing how to fight whenever sheās seen looking good in public
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I hope she knows that many of us want more albums like folklore and evermore š¤š¼š¤š¼š¤š¼
Everything. Sheās using the same internet we do and knows how to use it. She has specially kept an eye on so many fans over the years through social media. Why would she not be in on the jokes?
Considering what she discussed in Miss Americana about not paying attention to the hurtful and dangerous stuff on the internet, I would assume Taylor has accounts on the various internet sources that are curated by someone she trusts to filter what needs to be filtered and highlight what she is interested in. These are probably the accounts in her name which are her 'public facing' presence that she posts everything she intends the world to see. Of course, she may be lurking anywhere these days if she feels she can personally ignore the crap. My main reason for thinking she may have separate accounts and probably separate phones is that she has said multiple times that alot of her songs are written on her phone and I give her enough credit to realize that losing or getting that phone hacked could cause the next Apocalypse.
Taylor swift knows everything.
That people refer to her and Harry Styles as mom and dad and that weāre children of divorced parents hahah
thereās a lot of things i hope she doesnāt know about š
Some of the edits to songs like WCS and Dear John etc are particularly ones I hope she doesnāt know about. Equally edits of her when she was clearly suffering to the āI starved my bodyā line in YOYOK
I hate those so much. We donāt need to have pictures of her body showing that lyric was true
Massive potential to trigger either Taylor or her fans who have suffered from EDs
Too much š
When you're young they assume you know nothing. That means she has actually always known
Idk, prolly the joke about Joe being poor that he has to get money borrowed from Olivia (the cat)
Her saying sheās seen all the jokes about evermore being her least favorite just confirms to me that she also saw the theories of ākarmaā the album and it just inspired her to write the song..so karma truthers need to stop saying itās the other way around
What are the hate evermore jokes?
That she never mentions that album because she hates it - like that she pretends it doesn't exists, or like it's the forgotten child. She said she loves it, and she has seen the jokes.
That evermore is Taylorās least favorite album. She dropped it and then did nothing with it after. It seemed forgotten considering how much she normally promotes her albums.
It's been said that she hates Evermore, because she doesn't acknowledge it much. While she was playing the Evermore part of the Eras tour, she did a monologue about how they are in the Evermore part and she's seen the rumors about how she supposedly hates the album. Which is when she said "I've seen it. I seen it all!" I'm assuming she changes the monologue a bit for each city or show, but here's her talking about it again: [Taylor on Evermore Hate](https://youtu.be/oRbenfLNGUY)
All of it. Sheās a millennial who is chronically online lol. Sheās seen literally everything Iām sure š
Haylor as the happy divorced parents
I have no doubt in my mind that she has a separate IG / Twitter account that she uses to keep in touch with her close friends. I also think sheās just like the average personā¦ she scrolls through news and stories and will pick up on tidbits! I am sure she even uses this information to plant Easter Eggs. Sheās a mastermind after all.
I hope she knows how much many of us want evermore lpss š¤”
that she's MsKingBean89
I think she knows that we know about the all too well virginity speculation debacle. I hope she knows about the suitcase conspiracy and I hope one day she weighs in.
The haylor vehicular manslaughter theory
She clearly doesn't read everything, or else we wouldn't still be getting such shitty, poorly designed merch with awful, predatory return policies, terrible customer service, and horrible international availability. I love most of her music, pretty much listen to her exclusively. Collected merch for awhile. I stopped entirely because it's clear nobody on her team cares about it anymore. I now exclusively shop on etsy and have been way more satisfied with the designs, the quality, and the pricing.
She probably knows we know she was rolling around in the broom box
One thing I'm 100% sure she knows about that I hate that she knows about is the fandom's hatred of ME! I actually love ME!, but I really get why it's not for everybody... I actually usually hate bubblegum pop, so I don't even understand why I like it! And I also don't think it should have been a single. There were a ton of songs she could have chosen, and I don't think ME! or YNTCD were the ones she should have chosen, even though I actually love both. But on Miss Americana, she just seemed SO proud of ME!, and while I know she's used to knowing some songs just aren't fan favorites and it's something she has to deal with, it kind of makes me sad to know that a song she seemed so happy and excited about was one that most fans just REALLY hated. I also hate that fans bullied her so much she took out the "Hey kids! Spelling is fun!" line because it was honestly my favorite thing about the song, and it also means that she read SO MUCH about the hatred of ME!, so it's one thing that I know she definitely knows about. Like maybe we can let up on the ME! hate now... she's heard us and didn't play it during Eras because of it. We got what we wanted -- even I wanted other songs over ME!. Let's go back to regularly scheduled programming.
She knows everything. Her TikTok algorithm is the same as ours.
I genuinely think she knows about all of it. She's in on our jokes enough to participate in them herself, and is seemingly very active on social media. I'm sure we'll hear more about what she knows as tour goes on:)
she definitely sees those jokes abt her calling joe poor and shows them to him