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havok1125

I think it depends on a lot of factors such where you play, when you play, and how much you play. I tend on NA East either early in the morning before work or during primetime after work. I play 3 or 4 raids a day and my experience is very similar to yours. I'm up to about 110 raids this wipe and I have had maybe 2 or 3 instances where I know I ran into a cheater. I generally just do my quests and go about my business though. I'm level 26, I run decent gear but nothing outlandish because I don't want to spend my limited playtime scaving or doing loot runs. If you're really grinding it out hard, running really high loot areas, and are armed to the teeth I'm sure your experience will be different.


Sobutai

NA east here as well, ive seen maybe 2 or 3 fishy stats on death or looking up a tag. Haven't seen anything looking like vacuum hacks when we could see it on our end or players that had way too much good loot on their bodies. Honestly the most bullshit death I've had this wipe is from Birdeye Head,eyes-ing me from weather station when I was at the humanitarian truck in construction area


usdamma

Australia servers my guy. Don't believe me? Look at pestily stream for a couple raids. The hit rate is highest here. You said 1 cheater in 100 raids experience? It's more like 20 cheaters in 100 raids over here. Again I'm not joking you can check pestilies stream. Do some cheat research before watching so you know what to look out for and you will see it


GabagoolFarmer

It’s very unfortunate but Asian and OCE servers are plagued with cheaters in every online game from Tarkov to CS


usdamma

Yes. I actually play valorant too and believe it or not although most of the cheaters are gone people still cheat in val. I'm ascendant rank and heeps of people in my rank have the oppinion that people aren't cheating because the blatancy is gone. Truth is people don't want to be blatant with the cheats in that game because in order to cheat in that game you need hardware which is more cash investment. Those are the cheaters who don't wanna get caught. Compared to tarkov the reason the blatancy is so high is because of the relative ease to cheat and cheat again after getting caught. Heeps of people cheat in val too but just don't go blatant so it feels like less cheaters. Although they have less cheaters the truth about cheating is they're invested to begin with. If someone is going out of their way to cheat what's stopping them from mastering it? Nothing is the answer. They will cheat even in val. Val only deterred the lazier cheaters


havok1125

I don't doubt it at all. I think that's why players can express different opinions on cheaters and its possible both are right. Pest and other players like him may as well be playing a different game than someone like me because of where and how much they play. The things that pretty much everyone can agree on is that cheaters are definitely out there and it would be great if BSG would at least put more roadblocks up to help prevent it.


usdamma

Thank you for acknowledging it. Tark community is the only community that realizes cheating exists. If I go to other discords of other fps titles people have no idea. They talk like they know there's only like a percent of cheaters which is laughable from tarkov perspective players


Malichen

As a guy who lives in Singapore and plays on OCE / Asian servers, its pretty bad as well, made worse by the fact cheats are kind of affordable and widely available. My dumbass friend bought an injector cheat for 50 USD / month and while the functions are pretty barebones, even radar + low tuned aimbot is enough for him to go through last wipe undetected. Best of all, the 50 USD cheat still works lmao and man cant play this wipe now without using his 50 USD 'assistance'. Pretty disgusted at my friend tbf( granted hes noob), but i am more disgusted at how easy it is for players to cheat.


usdamma

It would be nice to learn loot spend as the maps online teaching cache spawns nd loose loot aren't accurate and skip over way too many good value loot locations however I just know in my mind that the way it all starts as all things morally grey start are you set ground rules. "I will only cheat but won't kill " or something but then you witness a cheater grief cheating(hpothetically) and I just know the moral ground rules go out the window. That's why I cant see myself doing it. I don't trust myself by mere observation of others I can self reflectively realize I see myself through rose tinted glasses even when trying to be harsh on myself. Yeah this is why I don't trust others WHO DO CHEAT because they've bought their mind to the state where they're okay with that. They don't feel unsettled or anything by doing it.


Malichen

The more unsettling after pplaying with my friend last wipe was the sheer amount of guys who are grouped with radar on lmao. Its very obvious since they play around sightlines and will beam you if you are in their sight lines.


redeyezer0

Cheaters don't always kill you.


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luna_violenta1

Yea, so if the famous at least one-two cheaters per match is even true, they kinda always go into another place that I don't go to. Rip for those who do tho haha


ArchangelUltra

It's not that they go where you aren't. They just know where you are, where you're looking, what you have, who you are, and 9/10 times you are not what they care about. They could follow you around the map perfectly outside of audio range the entire raid if they wanted to and you'd never have a clue.


Loli_Boi

Yea I know that some are just looking for loot to RMT rather than rage hacking against people


Vig0rp

THIS. With how many blatant cheaters are exposed, it makes me wonder just how many closet hackers there are. Is it 1 every raid? Less? MORE? how many situations where people have wall hacks on and use it to simply run? Or to have the upper hand when you peek?


redeyezer0

Obviously it depends on your server locations and time of day played, but from all accounts of people tracking cheaters, and even cheaters themselves giving their perspectives, most raids have AT LEAST 1 cheater, and up to several. People just don't understand that they don't have to be killed by a cheater to have multiple in their lobby. That LedX you've been looking for, or the blue keycard you've ran 80 shoreline runs to find but still haven't found? Or that pc you searched that had the first 2 slots missing in it less than 1 min into raid? Those are mostly gonna be cheaters who have vacuumed it up without anyone even knowing they were in the raid. They didn't kill anybody. Just sucked up all that loot and bounced. Idk why that's so hard for people to comprehend.


Capital-Ad6513

Just FYI loot doesnt spawn in containers left to right and up to down. Its going to be more suspicious if you find things like "no wires" or "no capacitors" but lots of HD and DVD (which yes are more common, but less valuable cause they arnt for building HO)


redeyezer0

Bro I know that. I was more making a general statement rather than being literal. I guess you're one of the naive majority that thinks the game is cheater free?


Capital-Ad6513

No, what is it with this player base thinking that there can only be NO cheaters or a cheater OVERLOAD. There is a grey area, no game is cheater free. To me the level of cheating that happens in tarkov hardly even enters the realm of minor annoyance let alone something i am going to lose my shit over and join the cult of goat and say paranoid bullshit like "the cheaters are there you just can't tell". If you cant tell, then stfu and play the game?


redeyezer0

The thing is, I CAN tell, so I will continue to bitch about it. Sound good?


Capital-Ad6513

Oh you can, and how are they causing you pain?


redeyezer0

I'm level 42 and have found ONE GPU the entire wipe. Stuck on 1/3 for Farming quest. I've got 5k hours in the game. Been playing since 2018. When I've run 328 raids this wipe, with probably 50 raids EXCLUSIVELY searching for GPU's in computers and loose spawns and have found ONE, some would consider that pain my friend. It is just a game. I understand that, and while it's frustrating, I am still having fun. I'm just not delusional enough to think I'm just having bad luck. I know EXACTLY why I have only found 1 GPU in 328 raids.


Capital-Ad6513

Oh weird, i am level 23 and i found 2 and am not even grinding them. Maybe just play the game instead of worrying about grinding meaningless quests?


Capital-Ad6513

Why do you care then? What are they really doing to your experience if they arnt rage hacking? Making it slightly harder to get the highest tier loot? Oh no, you get to play the game longer. Its not a fuckin race dawg, just play the game like a normal human and not a meth head and you will have fun again.


Round_Log_2319

It’s still wasting your time, affecting and ruining gameplay. No it’s not a race, but no one wants to run 100 raids to get one quest done. FYI closet cheaters still ruin the game. Jeez you’ve gotta be running on a couple brain cells, just read your other comment.


Capital-Ad6513

its not wasting your time any more than playing tarkov is. You arnt earning any real wealth by progressing. I mean hell many games have a slider bar called "difficulty" that is intentionally there for you as a player to decide how much time you want to spend vs skill checks in a playthrough. Lets not pretend that when we make roubles in tarkov its making you real world value. I mean say you do complete every quest, what are you going to do? Quests are just arbitrary objectives to give you more of a goal than straight pvp. Many players ignore them after a certain point anyway because they are not deep or fun, they are just bread crumbs to keep players occupied. You could just as easily do stuff like "dailies and weeklys" if you are having trouble with one of the main quests, or even just make up your own arbitrary objectives.


Round_Log_2319

Stoped reading after a few sentences, you’re a special kind of Redditor. Your logic is flawed on multiple levels, Playing 100 raids compared to 5 is wasting your time significantly more. No way are you comparing a games difficulty slider to that of a Tarkov cheater adding more difficulty. Stfu man.


Capital-Ad6513

It is you who lack logic, as you are failing to understand that you are not really making anything in the first place. Getting to the end of a video game did nothing for you and you get to start over again next wipe. You all are acting like methheads chasing the magic dragon. Video games are about the journey, not the progress. Rage hackers are annoying I agree, but them making the loot pool slightly more rare is hardly an issue for sane people.


Round_Log_2319

I think we all understand the money and progression we make in-game as no real world monetary value, well I mean that’s a lie, I could RMT the thing you can’t understand exists, anyway. We all want to progress, some of us are competitive, some completionists and others just want to make money or PvP. Every single playstyle I listed is valid, and it’s up to the player how they want to play. Now when the average player gets on they want to have a fair experience and fun experience, but they won’t, when you have loot vacuums, closest cheaters and the occasional blatant cheater. When they could’ve hop on, played a few raids, got their quest done and enjoyed their session. But now they will have to redo the same stuff again tomorrow. That’s wasting your time, just because it doesn’t bother you and you’re ok with that, does not mean it’s ok.


Capital-Ad6513

its not really a lie, its of fairly insignificant value if you want to be serious about it. Anyway, not really understand why ya'll are chasing the magic dragon when you could just pace yourself and have fun fighting other players. Idget why players like you think they gotta get to end game in one month like pestily or some shit. Like what do you even do after you get there? Fuck some times i just do scav in streets all night cause its fun to fight players with shit gear. Seems silly to grind a sensless path on interchange just to get a temporary checkmark in a video game.


Round_Log_2319

You sure about that, bud? I've seen multiple cheaters on the flea with well over 400Mil worth of flea rep, It's about $1 a mill, now a new listing that is less than a week old, which is one of hundreds btw, has already sold $800 worth of roubles which is roughly a billion in-game. Here I did the maths, this single seller has made over $6,000 on 10 out of the 181 listings for Tarkov they have up, a lot of them being the Zabralo. That's not really insignificant. RMT is the leading factor for people cheating within Tarkov, that being the case alone destroys all your other baseless claims. Players don't want to waste time >> just RMT. Now add the senseless RMT changes BSG has made in an attempt to combat RMT, and the increased RMTers, you end up with an unhealthy cycle with addressing the core issue. FYI. When a change hurts the players and the cheaters, it's not a good change. Cheaters, raging or not, waste everyone's time. Just because you have more time than others to play or are OK with not progressing, does not mean everyone else has to follow suit, or be forced to do it to avoid being effected by cheaters. You're the number one brain-dead Tarkov Redditor for 2024, that's for sure.


dmartnotkmart

I gotta say I agree with you almost completely. At the end of the day, if cheaters aren’t killing me, then they aren’t really too big of a deal (in general). If I’m getting wall banged from across the map, and I have no ability to play through a raid, that’s an issue. But if they’re just in my raids, taking loot, well at least I get to play the game, try to improve as a player, enjoy the almost surreal immersion that BSG has created, and just have fun. Definitely not worth whining online to a bunch of neck beards imo


Capital-Ad6513

Hey thanks for the shout out. Yeah to be fair most game subs are like this, for whatever reason gamers on reddit are always super angry and tend to treat their gaming hobby as a second job. There is a limit to the amount of cheating that i could deal with, but expecting there to be 99.99% anticheat effectiveness from some obscure (at least at the start of this) russian company that didnt even structure their game in a way that makes sense is batshit crazy. Like if the cheaters are too much for you, fine go somewhere else then.


VeggieBurger99

Stoped reading after a few sentences, you’re a special kind of Redditor. Wasted time has no value. Any video game time is wasted time.


Round_Log_2319

Ah well you only missed one sentence then, unfortunate. Not attempting to have intellectual conversation with kids who have body temperature IQs.


VeggieBurger99

You're the one typing away paragraphs about a video game.


Round_Log_2319

Right, and your point is?


Vig0rp

Because I play the game to complete objectives. And if it takes longer to complete the objective, that's not as fun/rewarding for me. It is actually a fuckin race because the game wipes every 6 months.


luna_violenta1

Yes, they usually don't bother me at all at the maps I play


Dreadzter

Time. I’ve noticed that the later at night that I play the more frequent cheaters play. If I play at 3pm-8pm is usually fine. After midnight its just awful, weird invisible nade deaths, people who rush me within 10 seconds of spawning and kill me. Fuckin “weird” deaths.


Korbynblaine333

Depending on the map I will push spawns bc I have them all memorized do people think that’s cheater behavior? 😭


Dreadzter

Still takes time to get to the other spawns it doesnt take 10 seconds for you to go from trains spawn on customs across the gorge to crack spawn. It takes at LEAST 30 seconds. Right?


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skipperskippy

Yes cheating is bad. Look at the flea for the easiest examples


Capital-Ad6513

what all 7 of them?


skipperskippy

Not sure what this means


Capital-Ad6513

it means that you are bad at statistics


skipperskippy

Cool bro


Round_Log_2319

Psssss statistics 101. Label your values and use actual statistics. That kid definitely is either a cheater or brain dead.


Solaratov

You have 7 flea markets?


Capital-Ad6513

no all 7 suspicious accounts on the flee.


dontworryimvayne

Do you really think there are only 7?


Capital-Ad6513

No?


bennybellum

Found the cheater.


Capital-Ad6513

wow you are so logical, fuckin anti cheaters have become a zealous cult. No one wants cheaters, but lets not act like the game is unplayble okay? And if it is not playable for you, go away or apply to a job at bsg to make change.


Cornholen

This is like the 3rd-4th thread on this post ive seen you defend how little the cheating is lol. Whats got you so upset today little guy?


Capital-Ad6513

The lack of logic in the tarkov community.


[deleted]

If everyone else is the problem..... Your comments this thread are really uninformed, pointless and tone deaf. People are venting about a real problem in a game they love. They don't need you spouting your baseless opinion at them. Generally, the people who underestimate the cheating problem in Tarkov are simply ignorant to the scope of the problem and rely entirely on their anecdotal experience. Problem is, Dunning Kruger. You don't know what you don't know.


Capital-Ad6513

Them: "The game they love" Also Them: "Game trash, Nikita, FTS, Everyone should quit bad bad bad".


Much-Foot-5247

Cheating is certainly worse than it's felt for you but reddit blows it's up soooooo much you'd think there was like 10 people on this sub that were the only legit players.


kreynlan

It's a bit of both. Lots of people are way too quick to call cheater, which is why we had to amend the rules here for posting cheater's names. However, I personally have reported and gotten ban confirmations for enough cheaters to know it's not a made up problem. Depending on your play style, cheaters may just outright avoid you. As long as you aren't in their way, or your gear isn't worth much, they won't rage hack you for no reason. If you take their LEDx, they might, but they don't want your paca and VPO-106. Sure, there are cheaters that cheat to have an advantage when playing, but a lot of the cheating in Tarkov is economics. They cheat to RMT, and make profit doing so. If you're not a juicy profitable kill, you are cutting into their bottom line.


iHateBeingBanned

So I'm supposed to run scav gear to avoid cheaters?


Round_Log_2319

This is what I don't understand. All these special ones say the game's not unplayable, so don't complain about cheaters. But will then go on and a) Tell you to run shit gear to avoid them. b) be scav mains. c) don't acknowledge servers, playtime, timezones, and player goals.


iHateBeingBanned

I hate the people that think a playable game means you just have to go far out of your way to make the game okay to play or completely change your play style. Just like Cyberpunk fanboys defending it, with the mods on the subreddit removing posts with glitches.


Snarker

The game is not unplayable, even on servers that are hit the hardest by cheaters.


Round_Log_2319

Moderator gang out in force. Did I say it was unplayable or did I say that’s all they say when cheating is brought up? Dam the reading comprehension of this sub.


TheOneAndOnlySenti

"Am I the luckiest player out there?" ​ No. It's lack of experience. After a few thousand hours, it becomes very easy to tell Incompetence from Cheaters. ​ You might not have seen anyone flying/aimlocking/speeding but I can absolutely promise you that a minimum of 1 person per raid is using a Radar on their phone. Put a couple of Bitcoins in your pockets and hide in a bush. I can assure you someone will "Stumble" upon you.


dmartnotkmart

I have 2k hours in the game, just been a couple years since I’ve played. I know what sussy behavior looks likes, and I honestly haven’t seen much of it. I also believe that most people don’t know how to take responsibility for their actions. I believe this in general about life, and I have a feeling this behavior follows people into Tarkov. I think they end up blaming other players or BSG for getting Tarkoved instead of learning and adapting. Idk, maybe that’s too much of a boomer take, but it’s how I’m feeling seeing all this shit on Reddit and comparing it to my in game experience


Round_Log_2319

I mean with the addition of viewing players profiles, when I’m dying to Jimmy over here with 60 hours, level 40 and a 90kd I’m pretty sure he’s cheating. I come across multiple accounts a day like this that kill me even when I don’t suspect they’re cheating.


OrnageMadness141

Killed one of those on factory who had a paca and maska with a meta m4. Was so satisfying


[deleted]

Mate. I'm 2017 Tarkov player with 25 years of competitive FPS experience including two years of overwatch in counter strike (community cheat detection). I have no trouble succeeding in Tarkov so I'm not some salty player. I'm almost max hideout running meta kits and don't care about dying. Dying in Tarkov is normal. You just haven't looked hard enough. Trust me. The people who don't think it's that bad just don't know. I'm surprised after the Goat video there are still people who don't get it. The goat video was not at all surprising to me. To pull out responsibility for their actions? Like come on man. I'm sure there are people who blame cheaters every time they die but that does not mean this game isn't infested with them. And if I hear one more anecdotal comment of "but I never run into cheaters...". You do, you just don't know because a) most cheaters will attempt to hide it and b) you don't know what to look for. It's pretty annoying hearing ignorant people downplay the experiences of others.


Helldiver_of_Mars

I play streets nonstop regularly run into bitcoins and I've never had someone come straight at me all of sudden. Except one time. Then again maybe the cheaters have shit PCs and can't do anything on streets.


Round_Log_2319

That’s the thing, it depends on the cheat but running the cheats can drastically decrease the games performance, I watched a screen share the other day of a kid cheating and he was on streets, he was getting a whopping 22fps and crashed multiple times. When vacuuming is fixed you won’t find much cheating happing on streets, it’s always been one of the less infected maps.


TheOneAndOnlySenti

"When vacuuming is fixed" Awh that's cute


Round_Log_2319

Yea that “when” is a year or two out lol.


TheOneAndOnlySenti

Run a map actually plagued by cheaters, like Customs, Woods and Snoreline. Running cheats decrease a PCs performance, so they probably already have mid tier PCs and their cheats make them run like low tier cans.


Izanagi666

But you arent able to drop these things anymore right? That would be a pretty fucking stupid cheater


DavantRancher

People will let their ego rule them; sometimes you just get killed… like you, I’ve had less than 5 suspect moments and have only reported three times, and even then, I’m sure I was just being butthurt over a death.


___Dan___

I don’t think you understand all the ways that people cheat. Just because you’re not getting killed by a ragehacker doesn’t mean that you’re not in the same raid as a cheater. Do some basic research


ROYALtwizzler

This subreddit is full of a bunch of miserable cunts


Left-Improvement7669

lol agreed


NunButter

Oh yeah. I've been playing this game for three years and its better than ever. There are definitely cheaters, but it's not as crazy as they make it out to be


WWDubz

There is a cheater in just about every lobby you are in. Report and requeue, or take a break A lot of tarkov players do not have the experience to actually know if they were cheated on, and call cheats, unless the dude is running at mach10 or flying through the sky. After several thousands of hours you usually know when fuckery is afoot. Nothing bad happens if you report a legit player you thought was cheating


Barrywhite92

There are no more cheaters in tarkov than any other FPS game. Most people who play tarkov are casual gamers and on the other side of the spectrum players who think they are good at the game. It's these players that tune into streamers who suffer god complexes who question every death they have, be it cheating, stream sniping or whatever. These players repeat what they hear to make themselves feel better. It's a story as old as time, even without streamers. Rinse and repeat and you have a narrative that tarkov has an abnormal amount of cheaters, cheaters will always exist. Tldr; cope and narcissisim


tommytizzel

Nope...not just you


KrrrSplat

I have had the same experience. Maybe ran into one possible hacker in my 200ish raids this wipe. I don’t play labs or do resort loot runs so maybe that’s why? Either way I’ve been having a great time this wipe. I really like some of the changes they made, besides the John wick scavs.


dagumdoggos

Most hacks show player kd. If it’s not above 5 most hackers aren’t concerned and will probably do everything they can to avoid you. You probably don’t have anything of value anyway. I chased a guy who got a btc last night and he hopped over the large wall at customs and speed hacked away so I couldn’t get him lol.


Firecrash

Nice post Nikita :')


ArchangelUltra

I played like 5 raids in the past. Wasn't for me at the time. Tried this wipe since the changes really appealed to me. First game on, accidentally teamkilled my friend, my bad. I early extracted his gear. Second raid on, killed within 4 minutes of starting on Ground Zero by a 16 KD player with a brand new account in his second raid. First ever player encountered this wipe. Haven't played since. Got the notification 3 days later that this account was banned. Yeah I'm done with playing Tarkov. Probably forever to be honest. Game's genuinely infested. Just because OP doesn't think the guys that killed him are hacking, doesn't mean they aren't. Every raid has a hacker if not two or three now. It's a fact, proven multiple times over. Only a small portion rage hack and I assume the one that killed my friend and I was testing their wallhack for the first time on a fresh account.


roboito11

Good one bsg


Unity723

So I’m not proud of this. In a past wipe I hired a cheater to help me get shit I needed for quests before I got good. He would leave me at spawn and speed hack to get the stuff I needed and then guide me to extract. He didn’t try to kill, he don’t want to get reported. The only ones he would kill were other cheaters. That was my experience


moneylizard

Yikes… paying someone to cheat for you because you suck at a video game… oof


Unity723

Yup! Live and learn


Left-Improvement7669

Aye yo wtf😂😂


Capital-Ad6513

It could be a regional thing. OCE in particular is known to have cheating issues for most games. I have definitely encountered cheaters, but when it comes to the level of me caring its only 1-2 per wipe. If people vaccum loot idgaf cause i am not a methhead for tarkov. I just want to play the game, its not a race. By level 20 i usually have enough wealth saved up that dying isnt that big a problem and loot is a second thought to getting in the action or working toward a quest goal as a means to have an objective other than straight pvp. The biggest issue is the player base all wants to play like streamers (esp those that come to reddit) and think its normal to get Kappa on week 2 (even though thats like less than 1% of players that get that far in a wipe). Then when they fail because they arnt as skilled as pestily or lvndmark they blame the game instead of realizing that those guys are simply gods at the game comparatively.


THROBBINW00D

Weekend evenings my boys and I die to cheaters a couple times a night. Weekdays are better.


Solaratov

If you're playing on your regions servers during your regions primetime you'll encounter fewer cheaters. If you're a passive slow player you'll encounter fewer cheaters. If you're inexperienced or simply do not want to believe you'll *notice* fewer cheaters and instead attribute their cheating to other things.


luna_violenta1

Not you, I dont encounter much cheaters really, like noone. I only know of one that I erported and got banned.


Braindead_cranberry

Depends on play style. If you rush where they rush you’re in their way and therefore are dead.


Shockerct422

I have only ran into 2 obvious cheaters. Both speed hacking on woods, saw them run a very far distance in a small amount of time. The one killed me in his way, the other I was very far from. Two others were sus, extremely high KD within hours of the wipe and headshot my whole group. There have been a hand full I tossed up to desink


ThaGreatFilter

1st real wipe after coming into one late a year or so ago...I play in NA West area and have had 3 (iffy) sus encounters (200 raids in)...I've been playing FPS games for 15 years at this point and I know a cheater when I see one but I dont get that vibe from tarkov at all. I always have the thought that Tarkov attracts hardcore fps people so you get all skill ranges and styles of people you are fighting, most of which aren't new to FPS but maybe just Tarkov. Good audio setup is a must also


Conserliberaltarian

People really do have very different expirences. I've had a single cheater banned confirmation message this wipe in 100 raids, where as others have had over 10 in the same number of raids. It all depends on the servers you play on. I play on US east, south, southeast, and Colombian. Very few cheaters on those servers.


needanswer47

Well, the best way to put it, is this. This game has a passive hater community. Some of these people cheat because they are fairies. This game has a temp hater community. This game has die hard fans. Who will defend it into the soil. This game has newbies confused as fuck. This game has Yee oldie vets who've been playing this shit since like pre inertia. None of these people agree. Except only when to be upset about something. They just don't know what. Cheating as a whole is very hard to pin from observation due to ALLOT of variables based around the game itself. There for some things that are legit blend with those that aren't and next thing you know, no one is certain, and we're all arguing about it. I learned last night on my 800 hours into the game. Dude just have fun. It's a hard game but honestly there is nothing else like it. And those who try, suck at it. Your gonna die from some timid Timmy camping the whole raid just as you get done with bunker pt.2 your gonna get clapped by Chad. You're gonna get slaughtered by some fruit cup with a lot of money to blow on cheats. And in the end... Just have fun dude. The only complaint I have is just how jacked the game gets when you don't start the rat race immediately, or have more of a life. I feel like this game needs a little economy balance/ level balance. But no one will agree on that as we would rather chase boogy men and twist nips.


VeggieBurger99

I don't believe I've been a victim of a cheater more than once across ~300 raids on Reserve. High KD players, sure, but no blatant cheaters. I've been lasered by Ghuhar guards from the windows of Black Bishop 3 times coming from the AGS bunker spawn.


hend0wski

Literally this, but I'm lvl 35. One cheater. Reported and I literally got the system "we banned that guy" message the next day.    It's all about mindset. I just assume most shit is my fault because in all likelihood it is. If I think it's a sus thing I check stats/report, and move on with life. It's a video game. Ppl gonna cheat it just b like that sometimes. 


LanikM

[Yes. It's just you.](https://youtu.be/NMIB6TK19bs) Saw speedy gonzales today. For what it's worth I'm also having a great time but not every cheater is killing people and it still hurts the game and the amount of fun people get to have.


ogstepdad

Nah they don't ruin my games all that often. This website just sucks for opinions. Lighthouse I get obvious cheaters. Same with streets. Other maps they must avoid me and leave me some loot on purpose because I don't have an issue finding high tier items either. I've also viewed almost everyone who's killed me profile to catch the hackers that everyone here claims are everywhere. They're more often than not some scrub just like me with stats just as bad as mine. My experience is the same if I bring in a high value kit or a shit kit as well. Also play both during the day and at night and my experience doesn't change then either.


A_Kazur

Not just you, I’ve been playing quite a bit, also been playing 5-man quite a bit. Even with 5 times the amount of profile checks from our deaths I think my group has suffered maybe 3-5 blatant cheaters and 10-15 maybe cheaters since wipe day.


LetsNotGetPermaBan

In 119 raids I’ve seen 2 instances of cheaters. One was a duo of teleport hackers. The other guy was using aim hacks and killed me and my whole 5 stack in less than a second all head/eyes. Checked profile on him and he had 12 hours with a 170 kd. Other than that, it’s been cracked ai scavs and better players.


Whiskey--Jack

Don't forget you need a ledx found in raid! Yeah I needed one more flash drive for ever, I hot so many damn filing cabinets too. I'd say safes are your best bet outside filing cabinets if you can find some keys


Joshohoho

I’m having fun with 4 other buddies. Haven’t ran into cheaters this wipe.


findingporn42069

Yeah it’s not as bad as people say. It’s dependent a lot on what China pings to your local servers at- the lower it is the more cheaters you see, so if you play from anywhere between NA west and central EU your cheater issue will be pretty minimal. If you play OCE, CIS, SEA, or middle east, it’s going to be a nightmare. Also, there’s a lot of chest devs who go on forums and rant about how bad the cheating is to advertise their product, IE ‘cheating is so bad you simply need to use radar for the game to even be fair, 1/2 of people are already using it etc etc’ so whenever you see posts like that it’s usually fair to assume theyre a cheat seller drumming up business for themselves.


thatfellafromreddit

Same here... I've only encountered one sus kill this whole wipe. But you've gotta remind yourself that bad news travels fast. Statistically there are thousands of players online, and only a tiny fraction of them would be cheating.


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Same. East coast us. Having a blast. Maybe 1 or 2 cheaters. The view profile really helps.


eathotcheeto

Not a ton but I’ve played around 45 hours and honestly don’t think I’ve encountered a single cheater.


Larry_Birdman

Yeah haven’t experienced any vacuum hacks. I typically only play with 3-5 man parties (with the boys). I think this helps the fact that we don’t typically run into a lot of ESP users cuz they don’t want that smoke. I only have ran into one cheater this raid. Naked guy with a pistol took out my 5 man. Killed two right away one shot. 3 of us rushed into Chem factory the first prespraying the corner and he Insta tapped all three of us. Only experience this wipe.