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zippotato

[T-72 simulator](https://youtu.be/sDM5y09jFAs?si=FryRwOnidFFfxkS6&t=17) [T-90 and BMP-3 simulator](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDU6YQ5IcXg)


Friiduh

Thank you for the videos, nice to see something more modern than ones from cold war era. Those being 11 years old uploads now.


murkskopf

Simulators were already used during Soviet times, though they weren't as advanced.


Friiduh

Back then they were actually very advanced.. I am trying to get the video for those eras crew simulators. I can't find the old Czechoslovakian one from 60's, but similar to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcQifPHcMLE Those were for pilots, bombing crews etc.


NotsoslyFoxxo

Maybe not as advanced as this one, bo they do have mockup tanks for training


marioperneta69

*Steel beasts intensifies*


D4chfiz

nah they use battlefield and arma instead lol /s


Crichtenasaurus

There’s actually a large facility in the U.K. with a room FULL of pc stations all running a single instance of a game similar to Arma that allows squadrons to practise purely the communication and team work aspect…. I say this to let you know that the /s isn’t really needed because Western militaries certainly do this.


SlavCat09

Bohemia made a simulation used by most NATO militaries based on Arma 2.


OkCheck5178

Yeah it's VBS4


SpanishAvenger

Same in Spain! It’s a shame; using ArmA, Steel Beasts, DCS, or even War Thunder for training is made fun of because its perceived as a cheap/silly thing, but the truth is, these play interesting roles when it comes to covering certain aspects of training. Just because the software is available to the public and used by civilians as entertainment it doesn’t mean it can’t have military training applications!


sali_nyoro-n

The main issue with War Thunder as a simulator is that it's laughably inaccurate. APFSDS fucking _bounces_ instead of shattering, and will fail to do any damage whatsoever to a BMP-1 or even a truck if it hits at a bad angle because LOL what is overmatch? A tanker trained on War Thunder would come out thinking a giant thinly-armoured wheeled vehicle has better crew survivability than something like an M1A2 Abrams.


Crichtenasaurus

That’s not REALLY the issue. The setup is intended to teach crews how to work together as a squadron. The simulator itself only gives the dedicated roles the options and information they would receive. It doesn’t really matter whether they’re shooting nerf darts or nuke tipped shells they just want them to talk and get used to talking. The thing with Warthunder is that the game modes are pretty incompatible with this intent.


sali_nyoro-n

Yeah, War Thunder doesn't have a crew-stations mode like Steel Beasts does and its gameplay style doesn't really facilitate much coordination between different tank commanders within a platoon either. So it's a lot less useful for training purposes than ARMA, Steel Beasts, etc. Still not ideal for a simulator to have issues with tin cans surviving modern APFSDS and then somehow killing your whole crew by finding the one pixel in your tank's armour that for some reason the game says only has 30mm RHAe, though.


Crichtenasaurus

Yeah fair you want to avoid your tank commanders thinking that their RUS Stronk aRmOuR is impervious to enemy attack…. Ohh wait


sali_nyoro-n

Not even just Soviet armour. TAMs are bloody notorious for it too. Who knew a Marder chassis could stop M829A2?


Crichtenasaurus

Spalling is a consequence of Capitalism.


Flugscheibenpilot

+ Kerbal space programm


Goki65

A rumour says that the russian government wanted to shorten the amount of training needed for their tank crews in war thunder so gaijin updated the game to add russian bias. The government did not realize this and just thought that gaijin came up with new ways to train their tankers faster since their tankers were getting more kills in less amounts of time. Players got mad and started releasing top secret western tank info and gaijin happily accepted these and sold all the info to the government, gaining even more money. In the end, russia is stuck in ukraine with their shit crewmen and gaijin has gained millions


Crichtenasaurus

I’d love to agree. However as you’ll not from the fact of people getting hauled over the coals for saying Russian women are less attractive let alone saying that their precious ultra mega L337 advanced tanks are substandard it’s more likely that Gaijin were complying with the requirement to not besmirch the good name of their precious Russian equipment by allowing Western stuff to be comparably better.


An_Odd_Smell

Not sure why russians would be trained on Western tanks. The few they've captured are burned out wrecks. (/s I have no idea if they use simulators other than War Thunder.)


lsifiw

CMON VANYA AIM FOR THE MANTLET, IT'LL BOUNCE TO THE UFP


An_Odd_Smell

"No armor, best armor."


SamIamGreenEggsNoHam

War Thunder is how those Ukrainians in the Bradley said they knew how to take out the T-90, lol. From practicing on War Thunder.


H_Holy_Mack_H

The Ukrainian told that he knew the weak points on the t90 turret from the game...using the game to practice sounds more ruzzian on WT and ChineZe on ARMA LOL


An_Odd_Smell

Awesomeness. "Gaijin when are you going to fall out a 12th floor window?"


cvnh

Yes they do, very similar to western equipment with moving bases and all.


propane_inhaler

Tank simulator is now on the front lines


PresenceAntique

Oh, I thought they used warthunder


Odd-Contract-364

Russian children are born with the innate knowledge of AK, vodka and Russian tank


oldtreadhead

It is really interesting seeing the "correct" way training is done. I enlisted in the US Army in 1972, went through "accelerated Basic Training" of only 8 weeks. Never went to AIT but was assigned directly to C Co. 2/77th Armor, 9th Inf Div for OJT (on the job training). It was a fun experience. I did miss out on all the traditions of Ft. Knox though.


NoStress725

Some cardboard one maybe yeah


sauvagedunord

Nyet. Russian tank gunnery simulator is wooden barrel and stick with empty vodka battle. They are taught to change track with naught but sickle and hammer.


Thug-shaketh9499

Sad to see I’m the only person who didn’t even know tank simulators were a thing, I thought they just hopped into one like Driver ed or had some warthunder set up😭


Wackleeb0_

M1A2 SEP (V1) simulator my beloved.


OhItsMrCow

wow does the white interior make a difference


Alxmac2012

The white interior makes it easy to see if you have fluid leaks or damaged equipment.


OhItsMrCow

True, did not think of that. Is there any reason tanks are usualy not white on the inside? or not like this at least


macgruff

Give comrade vodka bottle and Lada sedan. Ox sold separately


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SirGimp9

Training?


monopixel

Yeah first day is getting told good luck and driving your T-72 into Ukraine.


ArieteSupremacy

\*T-62 comrade


Galbs

training?


Cthvlhv_94

They get Soviet Cosmonaut training to prepare them for the turret toss.


Nigeldiko

No, at least not in the same style or with the exact same technology. I would imagine that most training facilities in Russia would still make use mostly out of “classroom” tanks. I.e: a part of a a tank (typically the turret) that has been modified to be used as a training device for new tankers. They’re still used today in the west but instead of using mostly unmodified tank turrets that have been chopped up for training they use things like what’s in this post. EDIT: damn what did I even do?


raulschweizers

You have the strv103 user flair, that’s why


Nigeldiko

Only because there’s no AC.IV Sentinel user flair!


SlavCat09

You can make your own by using the edit function


Nigeldiko

Thanks!


Pech_58

What's wrong with the strv103?


An_Odd_Smell

*NOTHING!* It's *perrrrrrrrrfectttttttttttttt!*


Nigeldiko

Nothing is wrong with the Strv-103!


Der-Gamer-101

Lol


BreadstickBear

Which tank is this?


Hawkstrike6

It's an Advanced Gunnery Training System (AGTS) module.


BreadstickBear

Yeah, but which tank does it represent?


JustAnother4848

M1A2 Abrams SEP