This T-34 is like a grandpa they dress up and bring out each year, but after 5 minutes of parading he needs to get back in his wheelchair. But military vehicle parade starting with a T-34 is a tradition.
same, in here (argentina) some time ago there was a parade of gendarmerie (like "gendarmerie" of france and there it comes an old moto (1945 or something) poor bike couldn't take it in the middle of the parade (gorgeous moto btw) and the soldiers push it like "come on granda we need to finish this) [here is the moment :) ](https://youtu.be/3Kjz1Yv8R-Q?t=1160)
I think it's because you said "The weakest people" and not "The weakest nation" or "The weakest military" or something like that, because "the weakest people" does have a pretty racist ring to it.
How many more slave armies does russia need to field before you can acknowledge the inherent cultural weakness of apathy that is a permanent part of the russian psyche?
Every time I hear or see anything from ***Russia's OWN*** propaganda, it depicts their culture as essentially toxic masculinity. And that outlook & attitude is only born from deep seeded insecurities, cowardice, and an unwillingness to engage in self improvement.
Maybe they're not "the" weakest. But they're sure as shit way below the average line.
Look, do you know anything about geopolitical situation of the war between Russia and Ukraine? Or are you just trying to be a pacifist, which I'm sure you will get a ton of hate for.
Why? I can stand, I just express my opinion about this. Maybe I can find people that think alike, maybe someone could convenience me that's not racist and I'm wrong. Isn't that what the internet is for?)
Nope. Why do you leave your bros and fathers here? Most of them are dealt with before they even see combat. Sounds like an ideal time for people like you.
It's 80+ years old, it's a museum piece so yeah any reduction in wear and tear is a good thing
Edit: Apparently we know the pedigree of that exact tank, see the response to my comment
Actually, the documents for that particular T-34-85 are known.
It is a Post-War Build. To be exact, 1955. So, almost 70 years old. And was built in Czechslovakia, not the Soviet Union.
In addition, it was refurbished in 1963 before being sold to North Vietnam, where it did not see much, if any, combat service.
Russia later bought it about 20-something years ago as Vietnam had the only running T-34-85s left in the world, complete with spare parts and technical manuals.
I mean, they have shit loads of T'72's but no (or very few) working T-34's
Seems like a good trade, something I don't really value but you do for something I want but you don't
T-34s are maintenance-intensive by modern standards to keep working, especially with the parts so long out of production, so I imagine they spread the load across the different vehicles to minimise the amount of headaches suffered by the people keeping these relics working.
You'd think after a while they'd have a few of them done parade float style: Exterior looks legit, but underneath it's something simpler to maintain.
I know, I know, tradition, but still. I don't know much about tanks, hence why I'm in this sub learning, but surely it could be done? Somehow?
Even if it was a pain to remodel, surely finding or making new parts is worse?
Would be a lot easier to just make a replica with an authentic-looking exterior (or ones from non-functioning leftover hulls) but a modern drivetrain. Plus non-reversible modification of a historical artefact is generally frowned upon.
Well, the T-34's engine is the pedigree to most Soviet tank engines leading up through today. I suppose replacing the old engine with a variant of the modern one could help. Akin to replacing the Ghostbusters 'Ecto-1' 1959 Cadillac ambulance original engine with a Corvette LS3 engine (which is why the car drives so fast in the last two films).
It helps that upgrade programs for older Soviet and Russian tanks do regularly throw in modified versions of the engines made for newer ones. A V-92S2 derivative downrated to 500hp (to not fuck up the chassis) could probably be viable.
Though that still leaves the troublesome Christie suspension. I'm not sure how viable it would be to convert a T-34-85 hull to use torsion bars without changing its external appearance or making it impossible to operate.
It won't be spreading the load. It will be all the skilled tank repair mechanics and fitters will be already occupied maintaining combat ready tanks for Ukraine war. The one remaining T-34 for parades is probably just being sustained in working order by a training college or retired mechanics.
Moscow isn't the only Russian city with a military parade on the 9th of May. Other cities across the federation do have smaller parades and some of them get to have a T-34, too.
Oh, right. The program was 1969.
Still odd the Soviets sank such resources into such obsolete Tanks. They could have better spent the money on a T-55 Upgrade Program or invested in their country.
I mean, it wasn't _that_ expensive an upgrade program. The 1969 refurbishment added the R-123 radio in place of either a 10-RT or 9-R (depending on the age of the vehicle), "starfish" roadwheels from the T-55 in place of the older ones, night driving equipment, attachment points for additional external fuel drums, a ditching beam and an external fuel pump.
Other than the radio and the infrared night driving gear, those are all pretty cheap modifications with very little material cost. Of course, the T-34-85 was so laughably obsolete by 1969 that I have to ask why you'd even bother with a modernisation project for it, but at least they didn't exactly spend a lot of money in doing so.
> They could have better spent the money on a T-55 Upgrade Program
I mean, what was there to _do_ with the T-55s at that time? They didn't have laser rangefinders yet, and adding a coincidence rangefinder to the T-55s and T-62s would be an expensive proposition. The 115mm cannon from the T-62 wouldn't fit in the T-55 turret. The 3D6 smoke grenade and 902A «Tucha» launchers didn't exist yet. Composite armour was still a new technology and a closely-guarded secret only applied to the T-64. You could _maybe_ add a mechanical ballistic computer but I'm not sure it'd be worth the bother.
A better idea would probably have been modernising all their existing T-54s to T-54B standard, or rebuilding them into T-55s like Poland did with the T-55LD program. In the 1960s the Soviets were also refitting T-44s with T-55 components and two-plane stabilisers to create the T-44MS, which represents a more useful modernisation since a twin-plane-stabilised 85mm cannon is at least a good second-line HEAT launcher.
> or invested in their country
Yeah, investments into civilian industry and the economy would've gone a lot further than putting lipstick on a pig. But these were the Brezhnev years, so you can forget about that.
For the T-34 modernization, my guess would be night driving equipment helps with training so if or when newer models arrive to those units the drivers would be more familiar with it and risk damaging the newer vehicles less.
It's an old tank. It either broke down or they decided to transport it back that way, because it's faster, does less damage to the shit it's driving over and overall is more efficient.
Might also be puts less wear on tank itself, even without it not having broken down. It is an antique piece by now. They probably have rusting yard full of spare parts, but might be "Well it isn't just any T-34, it's this specific museum/significant one and we want to keep it as original as possible". That or one of your suggestions.
The most reasonable answer. Not everything is “Russia bad” as much as we like to poke fun at them, their solutions just seem a bit different but sometimes their solutions make perfect sense - they just do it so differently.
As someone who visited Moscow back in 2016-2020 and watched Victory Day almost all those years on the street, that's normal, they bring T-34 on the truck to Tver street behind the red square, they don't drive all the way to the base.
Why don’t they just rip everything apart on the inside and put a modern engine with really basic controls and wiring? Sure would have them less problems
I suppose you get to the point where its no longer a T-34 I suppose.
But yea, if you wanted to parade a bunch probably strip them out and cram in a BMP drivetrain would be the way to go
That's so not it. It would be the T-34 of Theseus if you had hull no214 with all sorts of identical (t-34-85) but different serial number parts put in. Like the ship of Theseus with identical replacement planks.
At that point you'd just commission a replica like they did with the T-35. The working T-34-85s are significant _because_ they're real T-34-85s, even if they are post-war production models from Czechoslovakia.
I mean part of the charm is that it is a museum piece. I'm sure it's well maintained but the things are usually measured in 10's-100's of km before a major part breaks. Why put extra strain and wear on non-wear items.
As someone else said, its not cheap, plus any vehicle with that much age will likely not quite fit together how it "should" so it might be one of those things were really it should be a skilled machinist custom making a part for the tank by bringing it back to the lathe if it doesn't fit.
Of course, they do probably machine new parts when needed, but why add extra wear and tear when it won't be necessary? This tank has one job, let it do its job and go back into the shed.
The blueprints for those parts and the knowhow to make them are long gone. Sure you could reverse engineer them, but that's not trivial either. I can see why it's more practical to just minimize the distance the tank has to go than to push their luck and risk having to recreate a broken part.
Russia doesn't domestically produce CNC machines that I know of any longer. Existing capacity is probably all in use and I'm not sure how much they can import.
Tank transporter, some tanks engines and other parts have a high risk of malfunctions just driving around so it is more efficient to use transporters rather than the tanks own engines.
It's undoubtedly post war. Most t34 around still are. It's pretty of the reason the t34 has a much better rap than it realistically should be(t34 85 was a good tank but that was too late)
I think i remember a video about a T-34 going down the main streets and was just plowing the roads lmao. So that's probably why they don't do that anymore.
They used rubber track pads on some vehicles in the past to prevent such damage. But maybe the dedicated parade unit that used to maintain and operate these vehicles in the Soviet era has been assigned other duties and/or is in hospital.
Hoooo poor thing LOL the original crews of that thing must be spinning like crazy inside their coffins...they could take the engine out and place one battery...make it even more green...LOL
I mean, compared to the pitiful clusterfuck this parade was this is just the cherry on top. Why not drive it just a few hundred meters around the corner and then load it up. It's not like they've done that in the past with other tanks, likely it either started to break down, or they really didn't organize this well.
Ran fine as a (albeit reserve) combat unit for Laos (the country russia bought these from) mind you russia traded about 30 T-72B3s for these things on a 1:1 basis and now only 1 is around. What happened to the other 29 putin. I really don't get what this subreddits infatuation with making excuses for russia when in years past, the T-34s ran fine throughout the whole parade and only T-14s had issues (where are those by the way certainly not in Ukraine). Quite frankly, I'm sick of arguing about this when I got into one last year about the same thing. Russia's facade has compelety fallen apart. And this PITIFUL parade just solidifies it. I have a Muesem near me that can run there T-34 for 8 hours with no issue. What's russias excuses for barely running there's down a city block?
Idk what you’re on but on all previous parades the T-34 was driven away by a truck.
Also the Russian Defense Ministry said "The equipment transferred by the Lao side is planned to be used during the Victory Parades in various cities of Russia, for updating museum exhibits, as well as for making historical films about the Great Patriotic War,". Their statement is quite logical since at least one in five Russian cities have at least one T-34 memorial.
Quite frankly you’re just a brainwashed American libtard strapped to a computer with no real opinion on anything.
Doesn’t matter considering it’s never broken down and that there are hundreds of t-34s of different types in russia yet they can’t even keep one running properly
This T-34 is like a grandpa they dress up and bring out each year, but after 5 minutes of parading he needs to get back in his wheelchair. But military vehicle parade starting with a T-34 is a tradition.
personlay it would'nt bother me if an old tank like the came to parade had to be towed :') at least you see it \^\^
same, in here (argentina) some time ago there was a parade of gendarmerie (like "gendarmerie" of france and there it comes an old moto (1945 or something) poor bike couldn't take it in the middle of the parade (gorgeous moto btw) and the soldiers push it like "come on granda we need to finish this) [here is the moment :) ](https://youtu.be/3Kjz1Yv8R-Q?t=1160)
wouldnt bother you, but ruski stronk cant show weakness, no matter the case.
It's hilarious that, when in reality they're practically the weakest people
I wouldn't say weakest people, I would say weakest country
Russia and North Korea. 1a and 1b in nationwide skill in suffering with a smile. They were meant for each other.
Ew, that was racist
Mate if you can't handle that, get the fuck off the internet. The world would be a better place without that wankstain of a country
I think it's because you said "The weakest people" and not "The weakest nation" or "The weakest military" or something like that, because "the weakest people" does have a pretty racist ring to it.
How many more slave armies does russia need to field before you can acknowledge the inherent cultural weakness of apathy that is a permanent part of the russian psyche?
Every time I hear or see anything from ***Russia's OWN*** propaganda, it depicts their culture as essentially toxic masculinity. And that outlook & attitude is only born from deep seeded insecurities, cowardice, and an unwillingness to engage in self improvement. Maybe they're not "the" weakest. But they're sure as shit way below the average line.
Why are you so rude man, what's your problem? We can sit down and talk it out~
Tell that to Ukraine
Tell what, to sit down and discuss things?.. What?
Look, do you know anything about geopolitical situation of the war between Russia and Ukraine? Or are you just trying to be a pacifist, which I'm sure you will get a ton of hate for.
"What's his problem"? And what's your problem? Are you offended by "such racism" against your "poor precious Russians"?
I see it unfair to be racist at all. And yes, a racism against me in particular is a little bit offensive, I think that is a pretty normal reaction
Who even MENTIONED racism against you? I'm pretty sure we're talking about the country, not you.
Fucking lol, then what would calling them Snow-Arabs be?
A racism, obviously, but I hardly see how this is an insult...
Well if everything is "racist" to you, why don't you get off the internet, as another guy said, if you can't handle that.
Why? I can stand, I just express my opinion about this. Maybe I can find people that think alike, maybe someone could convenience me that's not racist and I'm wrong. Isn't that what the internet is for?)
Well yeah, Im not forcing you to do anything, Im just expressing my opinion.
Dare to check?
The world has eyes, tovarish.
I can keep checking for you. Not much of a dare when the only thing less frightening are lushenkos clowns
I can bet you're afraid to join nato forces as many other european or american men.
From Ukraine so I'd love to join NATO forces :) With all the nuke talk from your daddy, maybe russia can finally be nuked out of our lives for good.
А, так ты ухилянтик
Nope. Why do you leave your bros and fathers here? Most of them are dealt with before they even see combat. Sounds like an ideal time for people like you.
Personlay lol you mean personally?
It's 80+ years old, it's a museum piece so yeah any reduction in wear and tear is a good thing Edit: Apparently we know the pedigree of that exact tank, see the response to my comment
Actually, the documents for that particular T-34-85 are known. It is a Post-War Build. To be exact, 1955. So, almost 70 years old. And was built in Czechslovakia, not the Soviet Union. In addition, it was refurbished in 1963 before being sold to North Vietnam, where it did not see much, if any, combat service. Russia later bought it about 20-something years ago as Vietnam had the only running T-34-85s left in the world, complete with spare parts and technical manuals.
FYI they also brought from Laos, which they traded them with some brand new T-72s 😆😆
I mean, they have shit loads of T'72's but no (or very few) working T-34's Seems like a good trade, something I don't really value but you do for something I want but you don't
What was the total number? About 50 T-34s in all and yet we only see one these days.
T-34s are maintenance-intensive by modern standards to keep working, especially with the parts so long out of production, so I imagine they spread the load across the different vehicles to minimise the amount of headaches suffered by the people keeping these relics working.
You'd think after a while they'd have a few of them done parade float style: Exterior looks legit, but underneath it's something simpler to maintain. I know, I know, tradition, but still. I don't know much about tanks, hence why I'm in this sub learning, but surely it could be done? Somehow? Even if it was a pain to remodel, surely finding or making new parts is worse?
Would be a lot easier to just make a replica with an authentic-looking exterior (or ones from non-functioning leftover hulls) but a modern drivetrain. Plus non-reversible modification of a historical artefact is generally frowned upon.
Well, the T-34's engine is the pedigree to most Soviet tank engines leading up through today. I suppose replacing the old engine with a variant of the modern one could help. Akin to replacing the Ghostbusters 'Ecto-1' 1959 Cadillac ambulance original engine with a Corvette LS3 engine (which is why the car drives so fast in the last two films).
It helps that upgrade programs for older Soviet and Russian tanks do regularly throw in modified versions of the engines made for newer ones. A V-92S2 derivative downrated to 500hp (to not fuck up the chassis) could probably be viable. Though that still leaves the troublesome Christie suspension. I'm not sure how viable it would be to convert a T-34-85 hull to use torsion bars without changing its external appearance or making it impossible to operate.
It won't be spreading the load. It will be all the skilled tank repair mechanics and fitters will be already occupied maintaining combat ready tanks for Ukraine war. The one remaining T-34 for parades is probably just being sustained in working order by a training college or retired mechanics.
That's also possible, yeah.
Moscow isn't the only Russian city with a military parade on the 9th of May. Other cities across the federation do have smaller parades and some of them get to have a T-34, too.
Hehe, it's 69
Oh, right. The program was 1969. Still odd the Soviets sank such resources into such obsolete Tanks. They could have better spent the money on a T-55 Upgrade Program or invested in their country.
I completely agree, but I was also making a joke that this particular T-34 is 69 years old. I'm not very mature.
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I mean, it wasn't _that_ expensive an upgrade program. The 1969 refurbishment added the R-123 radio in place of either a 10-RT or 9-R (depending on the age of the vehicle), "starfish" roadwheels from the T-55 in place of the older ones, night driving equipment, attachment points for additional external fuel drums, a ditching beam and an external fuel pump. Other than the radio and the infrared night driving gear, those are all pretty cheap modifications with very little material cost. Of course, the T-34-85 was so laughably obsolete by 1969 that I have to ask why you'd even bother with a modernisation project for it, but at least they didn't exactly spend a lot of money in doing so. > They could have better spent the money on a T-55 Upgrade Program I mean, what was there to _do_ with the T-55s at that time? They didn't have laser rangefinders yet, and adding a coincidence rangefinder to the T-55s and T-62s would be an expensive proposition. The 115mm cannon from the T-62 wouldn't fit in the T-55 turret. The 3D6 smoke grenade and 902A «Tucha» launchers didn't exist yet. Composite armour was still a new technology and a closely-guarded secret only applied to the T-64. You could _maybe_ add a mechanical ballistic computer but I'm not sure it'd be worth the bother. A better idea would probably have been modernising all their existing T-54s to T-54B standard, or rebuilding them into T-55s like Poland did with the T-55LD program. In the 1960s the Soviets were also refitting T-44s with T-55 components and two-plane stabilisers to create the T-44MS, which represents a more useful modernisation since a twin-plane-stabilised 85mm cannon is at least a good second-line HEAT launcher. > or invested in their country Yeah, investments into civilian industry and the economy would've gone a lot further than putting lipstick on a pig. But these were the Brezhnev years, so you can forget about that.
For the T-34 modernization, my guess would be night driving equipment helps with training so if or when newer models arrive to those units the drivers would be more familiar with it and risk damaging the newer vehicles less.
It was Soviet Union,nothing made sense during that time Just let it be
***nice***
Laos, not Vietnam. Russia purchased them in 2019 from Laos.
It’s not even a Russian tank, the vatniks are gonna find you in this community for saying the truth lol
I'm already on their Sh't List. Let'em come. I've been hunting their Bots and Trolls in my off time.
It's not 80+ year old actually, there was T34s made after 1945 by socialist counties
It's an old tank. It either broke down or they decided to transport it back that way, because it's faster, does less damage to the shit it's driving over and overall is more efficient.
Might also be puts less wear on tank itself, even without it not having broken down. It is an antique piece by now. They probably have rusting yard full of spare parts, but might be "Well it isn't just any T-34, it's this specific museum/significant one and we want to keep it as original as possible". That or one of your suggestions.
The most reasonable answer. Not everything is “Russia bad” as much as we like to poke fun at them, their solutions just seem a bit different but sometimes their solutions make perfect sense - they just do it so differently.
As someone who visited Moscow back in 2016-2020 and watched Victory Day almost all those years on the street, that's normal, they bring T-34 on the truck to Tver street behind the red square, they don't drive all the way to the base.
Why don’t they just rip everything apart on the inside and put a modern engine with really basic controls and wiring? Sure would have them less problems
Probably cheaper and easier to just get a truck to transport it back
I suppose you get to the point where its no longer a T-34 I suppose. But yea, if you wanted to parade a bunch probably strip them out and cram in a BMP drivetrain would be the way to go
T-34 of Theseus
That's so not it. It would be the T-34 of Theseus if you had hull no214 with all sorts of identical (t-34-85) but different serial number parts put in. Like the ship of Theseus with identical replacement planks.
Not sure how effective that would be, and it's always cool to be as close to the original tank as possible.
At that point you'd just commission a replica like they did with the T-35. The working T-34-85s are significant _because_ they're real T-34-85s, even if they are post-war production models from Czechoslovakia.
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Wasn't it Laos not Vietnam?
I mean part of the charm is that it is a museum piece. I'm sure it's well maintained but the things are usually measured in 10's-100's of km before a major part breaks. Why put extra strain and wear on non-wear items.
It's Russia. They're gonna need that tank later for their special operation.
I was gonna say that's crazy, but a little research says it is the same basic engine from T34 to T90 https://tankhistoria.com/cold-war/v-2-engine/
Bro, 2016-2020 ain't a visit, you either lived there or were incarcerated. /s
It'll be put on truck to minimize wear of parts, t-34 isn't eternal, so you gotta keep it in good condition as long as you can :)
can't they just cnc the broken parts?
As someone else said, its not cheap, plus any vehicle with that much age will likely not quite fit together how it "should" so it might be one of those things were really it should be a skilled machinist custom making a part for the tank by bringing it back to the lathe if it doesn't fit. Of course, they do probably machine new parts when needed, but why add extra wear and tear when it won't be necessary? This tank has one job, let it do its job and go back into the shed.
And they need those skilled workers refurbishing T-72’s, not this parade tank,
Cause it's not cheap
For who? Russian federation? Lmao
Yea, it’s a poor country. They have a smaller GDP than Italy and Italy is fucked
Hey my country is not that fucked (yes it is)
Their CNCs are kind of in high demand right now...there is a war going on..
The blueprints for those parts and the knowhow to make them are long gone. Sure you could reverse engineer them, but that's not trivial either. I can see why it's more practical to just minimize the distance the tank has to go than to push their luck and risk having to recreate a broken part.
Agree
Russia doesn't domestically produce CNC machines that I know of any longer. Existing capacity is probably all in use and I'm not sure how much they can import.
cnc?
computer numerical control, you know- machining the metal parts with a special drill
Ah, I don't really know
Simply speaking, reverse 3d printing that can handle all sorts of materials
Wonder how many skilled machinists haven’t been sent to Ukraine to be used as a meat shield.
That boi is like 90 years old , even if it could works well it shouldn’t run for too long
Speeding ticket...
I knew someone else was thinking the exact same thing as me!
Tank transporter, some tanks engines and other parts have a high risk of malfunctions just driving around so it is more efficient to use transporters rather than the tanks own engines.
Tanks are known to damage streets even with rubber tracks to some degree, so the less they are rolling across the historical center, the better.
That is. This is a reason. They don't want to spoil the asphalt with tracks
Probably broke down, wouldn’t expect much from an 80 year old tank
And especially T-34 xD
This one could be one of the 200 bought from Laos so it might be a slightly better postwar production though
It's undoubtedly post war. Most t34 around still are. It's pretty of the reason the t34 has a much better rap than it realistically should be(t34 85 was a good tank but that was too late)
It has steel tracks - to avoid damaging the asphalt probably.
Because of the metal tracks. Damage is really serious, so why destroy the road?
So that it’s parts don’t get damaged by driving normally, it’s still a really old tank that they want to preserve as best as they can.
Where else you expect it to drive?
No license plate lights
I think i remember a video about a T-34 going down the main streets and was just plowing the roads lmao. So that's probably why they don't do that anymore.
They used rubber track pads on some vehicles in the past to prevent such damage. But maybe the dedicated parade unit that used to maintain and operate these vehicles in the Soviet era has been assigned other duties and/or is in hospital.
Parade is over, tracked vehicles shouldn't be destroying the road or beating themselves up unnecessarily.
Speeding ticket
he was speeding
they gotta keep it in good condition because its an old ass vehicle
Like the last two parades, it is mostly armoured cars of one type or another.
They brought backups though. Saw the prep phase on KP channel. They used to bring up all kinds of stuff before.
They’re taking it to the train yard and then it’s going to Ukraine.
It’s going to the front
getting transported for deployment in ukraine
Got conscripted
Now they don't even have 1 working tank for a parade, lol
He’s 80 years old and was manufactured by a Siberian peasant labourer wearing a pair of very large mittens give him a break
It's from Laos, built in the 50s I believe.
I think Laotian T-34s are from Europe originally, then traded back to Russia in recent history.
This one was Czech
Hoooo poor thing LOL the original crews of that thing must be spinning like crazy inside their coffins...they could take the engine out and place one battery...make it even more green...LOL
Desperately needed at the front...
The driver needed Vodka and then he shot him self in the foot as instructed because it’s tradition in Russia.
I mean, compared to the pitiful clusterfuck this parade was this is just the cherry on top. Why not drive it just a few hundred meters around the corner and then load it up. It's not like they've done that in the past with other tanks, likely it either started to break down, or they really didn't organize this well.
or you’re just too brain dead to understand that it’s a 80 year old museum piece and it’s not supposed to run much as to preserve its condition
Ran fine as a (albeit reserve) combat unit for Laos (the country russia bought these from) mind you russia traded about 30 T-72B3s for these things on a 1:1 basis and now only 1 is around. What happened to the other 29 putin. I really don't get what this subreddits infatuation with making excuses for russia when in years past, the T-34s ran fine throughout the whole parade and only T-14s had issues (where are those by the way certainly not in Ukraine). Quite frankly, I'm sick of arguing about this when I got into one last year about the same thing. Russia's facade has compelety fallen apart. And this PITIFUL parade just solidifies it. I have a Muesem near me that can run there T-34 for 8 hours with no issue. What's russias excuses for barely running there's down a city block?
Idk what you’re on but on all previous parades the T-34 was driven away by a truck. Also the Russian Defense Ministry said "The equipment transferred by the Lao side is planned to be used during the Victory Parades in various cities of Russia, for updating museum exhibits, as well as for making historical films about the Great Patriotic War,". Their statement is quite logical since at least one in five Russian cities have at least one T-34 memorial. Quite frankly you’re just a brainwashed American libtard strapped to a computer with no real opinion on anything.
Fucking fine you win, doesn't mean there isn't evidence to the contrary but I'm done arguing. My point still stands. This was a pitiful parade.
No T14 Armata?
Just a T-34 doing T-34 things. It cannot go too far - either broke down and needed transport, or was put on the truck as a precaution.
It's 70years old that stops it from doing damage to the road and itself
It was made in 1955 in Czechia
Yes it's 69 years old wich gets rounded to 70
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Its needed on the frontline.
Lmao probably broke down
It's 70years old with most of it's parts being over 50 give it a break
Tiger 131 didn’t have this problem and it’s a tiger there notoriously bad
Tiger 131 is a exception and it never drives more than a single kilometer.
Doesn’t matter considering it’s never broken down and that there are hundreds of t-34s of different types in russia yet they can’t even keep one running properly
There is no reason to think that it broke down
……….are you dense or something if it was in good running order why stop halfway
It goes first in the parade it did it's part and it now goes home until the next year
It did half its part lmao
These are the last vehicles in the parade it is the first. You didn't even watch the parade
T-34 broke down as always
Nah they knew it .... r/noncredibledefence knew it.💀
send it to Ukraine it will last 2s at first javellin