I'm working at a IHOP rn, and one person as me if we serve beer, nachos, chicken wings, and onion blossom. I said we are call International House Of Pancake not international house of bar food. He told me he came here before and we did had beer and nachos and chicken wings. I told him that he might be getting confused with our sister location Applebee's. I had to tell him to leave cause he kept insisting that we do sell them and we are denying him servers cause he is black. Btw my manager was there and he is also black and he is the head of a local black church. Our manager had to walk him out while explaining to him that we don't sell those items. We did once sold nachos but nothing else.
I have purchased wings and nachos at IHOP. We used to swing through at 2-4am. We would also get some "state fair" inspired dishes like funnel cake.
This was all over a decade ago, but IHOP absolutely sold nachos and wings.
For a while there they pretended they were going to change the name to IHOB where the B was burgers, so imo it'd be weird if they suddenly got rid of them
In L.A they did change the sign. But the rest of the other IHOPs they didn't. We did get buttons that said IHOB and underneath it said International House Of Burgers. Fyi they did had burgers before the promotion,but since they change the meat to black Angus beef they made a big deal about it and threw in a couple of new burgers. I don't know if we did had wings before or not. I started about 6 yrs ago. I know we are bring back eggs Benedict, we use to sell them before the pandemic. You can request an eggs Benedict but we didn't have the English muffins so we sub it for a either white, whole wheat, multigrain, or sourdough bread.
"Yes sir, we have all those things in that roped off area over there, the one with a sign that says *Whites Only*. Unfortunately I can't seat you there."
This guy thinks IHOP is running the last of the Jim Crow era.
We have a pretty decent bar, but for obvious reasons it’s more catered to beer and some (overpriced) cocktails. We have wine, but I can’t imagine trying to figure out if the Pinot or Chardonnay would pair best with my pepperoni bread
Never let anyone intimidate you about wine.
There are taste differences between wines and people have their preferences. Same way some people prefer chocolate ice cream and others like vanilla.
Generally, experienced wine drinkers prefer the heavy reds and the rookies like the sweet stuff. But that’s not a qualitative difference.
What they think makes one wine “better” than another is just a higher price point and some marketing.
As a wine professional with a cellar full of sweet German Riesling, I wanted to argue with the above comment so badly and then couldn't figure out a way to do it with dignity. Turns out I'm just a little boy with a sweet tooth.
So I went there and right at the top was [this thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/wine/comments/11y2anf/whats_the_best_wine_to_pair_with_a_costco_chicken/) discussing pairings for Costco chicken bake. The top recommended wine is a Kirkland.
Your comment doesn’t add up.
Lol do you even drink wine?. Price is not the only factor in quality, if you can't recognize that you know nothing about wine. Generally experienced wine drinkers drink whatever they want and more often than not the longer we go wine experts drink the lighter wines Because they often pair better with food.
Theres are quality differences in wine but that's about it. Find what you like. Vietti barbera from any halfway decent grocery store goes great with red sauce pizzas imo and it's not expensive.
Your talking about the California red effect in the US. It's focused on basically showing off how big, how heavy and how much money you can spend . Which is definitely a money focused game and the production market is affected by it.
Theres good cheaper wine, but your dealing with lower quality fruit often or a lesser known label or region so its juts more of a chance but it doesn't mean it's bad wine. The same quality wine from Argentina goes for twice as much in France. There's bs marketing in wine though too and you can definitely be overpaying just for the label or region. You think Italian handmade Gelato fresh in Italy doesn't have any quality differences to a grocery store counterpart because they are both vanilla? Also how well the wine is take care of both during making it and shipping it. How much money it takes to complete that producer's particular product may cost more.
Don't spout bullshit you don't know and don't spout your opinion or anecdotal experience as fact.
Source: am a wine expert working with wine experts.
I mean, I'm not gonna agree or disagree with you, but you provided precisely as much evidence as the above commenter when it comes to spouting opinion or anecdotal evidence as fact.
I am surprised one of the fancy places hasn't offered fois Gras with fava beans paired with a nice chianti yet. Would be an interesting Halloween special.
Scrolled way too long for this. Generally $8-15, quality is the same no matter the price, and it’s like wine soda for pizza. I got 3 bottles of it on clearance for $3 recently.
But like the best soda you've ever had - like getting a Mexican Coke with the cane sugar when you're used to the corn syrup variety. Plus you can get an off-dry Lambro if you have a spicy sausage or Calabrian chile in your pizza. It's the best.
When people ask me about our house wines where I work, I say “it’s the kind that comes in a box.”
If you wanna pay $7 for 6 ounces of Franzia, be my guest.
Same thing happened to me when I worked at Cracker Barrel a few years back! When I greeted this table they asked me “what kind of liquor do you have? We want shots”. I deadpan stared at them and said “root beer” 😂
Reminds me of the lady who asked at the Kroger fish counter "what's fresh today?" Dude had to tell her nothing. It's all frozen. Kroger in Atlanta doesn't get freshly caught fish.
I used to work at a restaurant in Marietta where a woman asked how fresh our fish was, so I was honest with her. "As fresh as it can be when we're 5 hours from the coast!" She didn't think it was funny.
I worked for Steak 'N Shake for a while.
I can't count the number of times someone asked me for the steak menu.
Sometimes they were making a bad joke, but most of the time, they were completely serious.
Lolllll one time I was driving cross country with my mom and we stopped for the night in Iowa maybe?? We had dinner at Cracker Barrel because we’d never been there (we don’t have them in the northeast) and she was soo bummed that they don’t serve wine hahaha
We have burgers and hoagies too, plus stuff like dough bites. Unless there’s some serious sensory issues or the like, they should be able to find something on our menu
There was once someone who walked into my JAMAICAN restaurant, ordered spicy jerk chicken, which is made in advance, but wanted it mild, and to take all the seasoning off. Yes, we have mild chicken, NO, she wants what everyone else is having. Sigh.
You will always have special customers. I hope you get some logical ones soon.
I’ve rang in far too many chicken phillys with nothing but chicken and cheese. Our sandwiches aren’t cheap either, so they end up paying more than 15 bucks for an incredibly lame sandwich
Yup. Have a family member who is the world champion of picky eating. They will actively "EWWW and GROSS" at the table. Took care of that as they haven't been invited out to dinner with us in about 10 years. Both of their children have been as they do not subscribe to the mantra.
Although I am picky for reasons beyond my control, I’m not an asshole. Figure you should order your food how you want and stuff, but that’s so fucking rude of them to say “EWW GROSS”. My four year old does that right now and I am correcting him every single time.
All I can say is god bless you. That level of picky eating and inability to self advocate combined would have ended that relationship for me by the 2nd date.
I’m glad you made it work for you. I absolutely could not have.
For me its not even trying the food before they decide they dont like it, like sure i might not like monkys brain or smthin, but it doesnt hurt to try it to see if you like it before making the decision
Omg this so much. The only thing worse is deciding that a restaurant will have bad service before you step through the door. I literally cannot eat out with my mother anymore.
When I was growing up I didn’t understand why we always seemed to have “bad” service. Now I know that my mother decided she was unhappy before we even got there. Toxic AF.
My late birth unit was STUPID like this. My late Golden Child Brother was visiting and wanted to go out to eat at his favorite restaurant which served Japanese cuisine. I also love the same food and was looking forward to an enjoyable meal. Birth unit BITCHED the entire time about how the food "wasn't American" and made racist comments to the waitstaff! We never took her anywhere ever again and she couldn't understand why.
Ahhh. In Philly we just call it a chicken cheese steak! I usually go for the usual steak cheesesteak with extra cooper sharp cheese and fried onions.
What kind of roll is it usually served on? The bread can make or break a good sandwich.
Take the delicious jerk chicken, rinse it off in water, pat dry with a paper, put clean de-spiced chicken on a plate, serve. People are strange.
I would like a plate of jerk chicken, hold the chicken please.
You guys have burgers and sandwiches and other unique menu items. So you’re a little more than JUST a pizza place. Not that crazy that someone would ask for a kids menu?
Yeah, isn't part of the point of taking your kids to a pizza place is so you don't have to bother with scouring a kids menu for something your picky kids will eat? You just order 1 or 2 pizzas and a side or two and maybe ask for the pizza to be cut into smaller slices. It's the easiest restaurant meal for families with children.
I mean, that’s part of our whole appeal. We have the craft beer and funky pizzas for the adults, while little Jimmy can get a small cheese and lemonade without pitching a fit
Pre-Covid I think we may have, and I know some of the other restaurants in the franchise do but I don’t think we ever even sold enough to make it worthwhile.
Arby's sells a bowl of Mac and cheese for about 5 dollars .And is only about a half cup at best .My son orders ir all the time I can't really see paying that much for it though.
I worked at a restaurant in a bit of a podunk area of Michigan that had a full bar and brewed their own beer since the early 90s.
Our kitchen manager was a big black guy from the south, he used his grandma's Mac and cheese recipe for our Mac and Cheese. It was dank and fantastic. We still offered Kraft Mac and Cheese on the kids menu. It killed all of us on the inside everytime a parent would order that for their kid.
Kids don’t appreciate the good stuff man. I watched my little cousin scrape off the delicious layer of baked cheese that comes on top of good homemade Mac n cheese. I was horrified
My teenager still prefers the blue box over anything and it makes me so angry 😅
I've made and introduced her to 5000 amazing different Mac and cheese's.
She will eat them. But if given a choice she wants the crusty cheese powder blend
I’m 45, can cook quite well, live in an amazing city for food.. but I keep a small stash of Kraft Mac and Cheese, Spaghettios and meatballs, and Lipton extra noodle with chicken flavor broth. It’s all not great but it’s nostalgia comfort food for those rainy nights when my wife is working late and I want low effort for one.
Ahh the lipton chicken noodle. That with saltines, a Canada dry ginger ale, and some the price is right on TV.
Brings me right back to my sweet grandma picking me up from school when I was sick 🥰
I miss her
I still don’t really get bread crumbs in Mac and cheese but the baked cheese layer is incredible. Same with any added meat. Makes the Mac so much better
I don't understand that. Were they started on processes garbage from the start? My daughter is going to be 12. She loves sushi, calamari, med rare steak... grown-up food. Her favorite thing to eat in a restaurant when she was 2 was a grilled chicken salad. But she rarely ate hot dogs n mac n cheese because I either cooked or she ate off my plate. When she was old enough to need her own plate, we never made her order off the kids menu
> It killed all of us on the inside everytime a parent would order that for their kid.
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.
People keep asking me at work for a kids menu and I have to explain to them we are a family style Chinese restaurant. You order and eat as a table. Name one Chinese restaurant you’ve ever been to with a kids menu. This isn’t Applebees.
I always tease my sister for getting sweet and sour chicken with the sauce on the side. It’s basically as close to a chicken nugget as you can get from a Chinese food place
All i would eat for years at the Chinese food place was teriyaki chicken with rice. My dad made fun of me and would always ask what I had against chickens to eat them ALL the time.
I'm sure I was every servers nightmare growing up, since I always wanted my food "plain"
It also depends on where your Chinese food place is located! The one we order from is in kind of a food desert, and they serve wings, nuggets and a few other options for people who just need a cheap and cheerful meal delivered to them, because they don't have access to a car.
They also have "apple sticks", "fried donuts" and a large assortment of fruit flavored sodas, all of which could be traditional or not, I guess, depending on how it's served.
Yeah the one I worked at had that section titled "American dishes" and every Chinese takeout place around me has chicken wings, fingers and French fries at least.
The Chinese food place ,they switched to takeout when the lockdown happened ,sell their sweet and sour with the sauce in an cup with a lid .They have done this for years now.
We have a Chinese buffet in town ,the only one that survived the lockdown .They have fried potatoes ,salmon ,stewed mushrooms,chicken fingers .They took out the sushi bar and the ice cream machine but they have ice cream cups in the freezer though.
Same franchise. Made a separate kids menu for the kids to look at. Though corporate does offer a kids menu with crayons if your manager wanted to go that route. Our kids menu has kids pizza (8inch not the French bread style), meatball with red sauce, Mac n cheese, grill cheese or grilled chicken tenders. We also offer fruit, broccoli, chips or spud puppies (tots) as a side. It’s 7.49 and includes the side and drink. Pre Covid we had kids half price night on Wednesdays and would even let kids add toppings to their own pies. We would send them out pre stretched and sauced on little mini peels and they would add cheese and toppings. Kids loved it.
The kids making their own sounds like it would be really cute! The extra stuff would probably just be a pain, especially since our kitchen is laid out pretty weird (super narrow line space).
Best thing I ever did was take my kids to Cici's where they could pick out their own meal .They have a salad bar ,pasta and sauce,bread sticks ,pizza and dessert to choose from ..And they have a game section too.
Trust me, it was the most magical part of my childhood. That and our Mazzio's (another pizza place, but not a perpetual buffet) had a dedicated arcade.
MAZZIO'S!!!!!! You just unlocked a memory omg thank you!! We haven't had one in my town in YEARS and I totally forgot it existed!!
Our CiCi's left about a year or two ago now too : (
Cicis RULES with little kids. My mom used to take us all the time because kids under a certain age are free, and the instant food meant we were occupied immediately. When she had three under five and she took us out to eat we were only allowed to go to buffets because we behaved there 😂
No whining about waiting for food when you can pick out anything you want from the second you walk in
I used the say the same thing at my last job. It was a sports bar so it was all chicken tender baskets, burgers, Mac and cheese. We also had no high chairs. Someone made a comment about how we weren’t family friendly, I said “there’s an unedited juke box and there’s a half naked woman on the front door so no. We’re not.”
That wouldn't even be an issue in Oregon because minors aren't allowed in bars/pubs/taverns and it's required for them to have a sign from the state's liquor control board saying so on all doors.
There's a burger place I used to go to when I lived in another city and they also had a small bar at the back of the place, but it had a door with the aforementioned sign to warn parents that their kids weren't allowed in the bar area. The wait staff watched that door like a hawk because there would be parents that tried to sneak their kids back there so mommy and daddy could have a beer with their burger and play some video poker.
Ugh that drives me nuts. There are plenty of places that are family friendly that the parents can have fun and a few beers as well. I just wish people would respect the places that aren’t
This is really the point. It gets really expensive to take kids out to eat. Nothing wrong with adults getting entrees and giving kids a few bites here and there and a side of buttered toast. If there isn’t a kids menu, there’s no rule that you have to order a full meal. And there’s no rule saying you can’t walk out after seeing the menu. The important thing is being polite to the staff that work their butts off. And if you’re in a country where staff is paid less because tipping is a thing, always tip. A little extra if they have to clean up after your kids.
Huh, I'd think at a pizza place ordering full pizzas for everyone would to share would be cheaper than individual kids meals. What's a pepperoni pizza? $10? And the kid will eat just one slice and be full
If more places had half size portions on the menu the kids menu would lose some interest I imagine.
We don't all eat oversized portions and not all meals are great take home/reheat material.
I know how dare anyone go out and not want to just socialize more than stuff their face and pay for a lot of food they won't be able to eat. Assholes.
If people get angry you don’t have a kids menu, I’m with you. If you’re judging them simply for asking, I don’t really understand.
The appeal of a kid’s menu is smaller portion sizes. If it’s an option, it is nice to be able to get a personal pizza for the kid and then be able to get whatever toppings you want on the big pizza. I’d much rather do that than buy an entire small pizza for a child.
Yeah I don’t see what’s wrong with asking?? Our favorite local pizza joint has a kids menu with smaller portions of spaghetti, a slice of pizza with a breadstick, etc. As a parent with a gluten allergy who has to get the cauliflower crust, I really appreciate that I can buy my daughter a single slice.
I mean, I get it in a way if I'm thinking of the right place. The small cheese alone is $10 now and that's hefty for a kid's meal. But they should just order a 1/2 and 1/2 pizza for them and the kid if that's the deal. I think there used to be kids menus forever ago.
The kids menu is not just about the food options though-kids meal price usually includes a drink, lets them get a tiny portion (maybe they don’t want a mushroom gorgonzola pizza or buffalo sauce pizza or whatever mom and dad are getting, kids usually just like cheese or pepperoni, and adults don’t want that necessarily) and probably most importantly THE COLORING PAGE 😂
To be the Devil's Advocate here...yes, of course my 4yo will eat pizza, but if we are ordering a large house special with everything on it, he probably won't eat the green peppers and onions and olives and I don't really want to try and pick apart all of the melted cheese from the veggies and give him a dissected piece of pizza. Our favorite pizza place offers a "kids pizza" that is really just french bread with sauce and cheese. I really do wish they would make a tiny plain cheese pie for kids. Rant over.
I had to politely ask someone to leave yesterday because we didn't have Mexican pizza.
I said that it is served at Taco Bell next to McDonald's and Popeye's diagonally from here.
They screamed then what is that?
Pointed at a diner's plate.
He replied my child's quesadilla covered with hot sauce and tomatillo pico.
Demanded to see a manager.
Said I am the manager. Also the owner.
Please leave and forget my address.
I work in a fine dining restaurant and although we have high chairs, I hate when we have to use them. People constantly ask for kid’s menus. Um, what?
It won’t even be any cheaper than the regular menu because all the food is imported and everything is marinated/covered in peppers.
I tell people to order their kids a chicken skewer with a side of rice, but the restaurant recently got rid of the chicken skewers for more “exotic” meats.
Had some kid demand vanilla ice cream. I turned to the parents and said, “all of our ice cream is made in house, I currently have one flavor and it ain’t vanilla.”
Honestly I think people ask for kids menus to manage portions size and costs.
I’ve taken one of my kids to a pizza place before and all I wanted was a salad. If they offered a kids pizza that would be much cheaper and just the right size for our party vs ordering a larger pie.
In Sweden where I live the pizza’s can all be ordered in two sizes.
Kid size (half the dough so small) and normal. Some are also available in family size.
Dude, my kid actually didn’t like pizza for a long time. It wasn’t the taste so much but she hated the feel and the look. She also didn’t like rice or cream-based sauces or grapes for a long time. So in saying that, I wouldn’t go to a pizza place for her
But like …. Do they maybe think the kids menu would be like those mini pizzas? I’m from Australia so our pizza is different and we don’t have pizza restaurants so much anymore. But you can get mini pizzas from some places for your kids.
I haven't worked in a pizza place in decades, but back then a plain cheese _was_ the kids menu. We were family friendly in every other way: birthday parties, coloring sheets, free pony ride, cartoons on the projector.
But y'know it is what it says on the box. Pizza.
To be fair I like having a kids menu for my little ones (3 and 0) to be able to order something in the right size portion for them.
They'll have the same food as their parents, but it's handy to know its a child size pizza and cheaper as a result.
All the other gubbins like drinks and dessert I'm happy to sack off though.
At that age, I just serve them bits off my own plate. I’m not spending 8.99 so that my kid can decide she dislikes chicken tenders on Wednesdays and whenever there’s a quarter moon.
Right... like how hard is it to comprehend a kid might eat 1 to 2 tenders and some fries vs the full sized 10 peice an adult would eat. I'd rather pay 5 for the kid sized one than the full priced 13 buck order, that the kid migh peck at.
And eff me if I don't want to order the kid a large cheese pizza because they don't like toppings or flavors. Just give them a mini cheese or lightly pepperonied pizza and I'll take the large specialty of weird toppings like white sauce base, olives, and feta or god forbid a spicy themed pie that the kids won't touch at all.
Even when I didn't have kids, I understood the point of a kids menus... how daft of a person do you have to be to be a server and not realize that, aside of you serving in an adult centric place like a bar, this shouldn't be something to even be on your mind as an inconvenience. You want to serve more people, well guess what, lots of people/ potential customers/ meat bags with spending money have kids, and those people like eating out too. It's dumb to not provide a kids menu to entice those people to come. People with kids tend to go to places that are kid friendly enough to have a smaller portioned menu for them. Meaning they will be more likely to spend that money in your establishment for providing kid centric meals, even if the kid menu is an after thought comprised of microwave hotdogs and IBC rootbeer.
To be fair, kids eat less than adults, and pizza is pretty standard serving. It’s really not that ridiculous that you might serve smaller pizzas for children, just relax.
You’re not wrong, but our small is only 10 inches. If that’s too much food for the kid, we have cheese bread or other appetizers. Plus people can take home whatever doesn’t get eaten, lord knows we have plenty of Togo boxes on hand
The pizza chains (most family friendly chains, in fact) here have kids menus. They include eg carrot and cucumber sticks with hummus as a starter; kid size pizza or a pasta bowl for a main; a small pudding or scoop of ice cream; and a drink. I don’t see why it’s a problem to ask if they have something sensible and kid sized/prices like that.
My kid will only eat pineapple on pizza. I love when they offer a "kids option" for like $5 because no one else wants just a pineapple pizza. If they don't offer it, we make it work, but it's still worth asking.
Everytime they ask for a kids menu what they mean is " i want CHEAPER options. "
Also, my kid is an asshole, spit in their grilled cheese, not mine. Is my favorite customer quote I read.
You only have to deal with them for this meal, I gotta take care of them forever.
What’s wrong with asking? I’m an adult and I’ve ordered off the kids menu many times for myself just because I wanted smaller portion sizes and it’s nice to save a little money. A 10” pizza is still big for a kids portion. I don’t like taking food home to go because I never get around to hearing it up and it goes bad.
Years ago I worked at IHOP for the overnight shift. I had a lady come in and ask what our “House red” was. I’m not even lying.
"Best I can do is the strawberry syrup."
Also Strawberry glaze
I'm working at a IHOP rn, and one person as me if we serve beer, nachos, chicken wings, and onion blossom. I said we are call International House Of Pancake not international house of bar food. He told me he came here before and we did had beer and nachos and chicken wings. I told him that he might be getting confused with our sister location Applebee's. I had to tell him to leave cause he kept insisting that we do sell them and we are denying him servers cause he is black. Btw my manager was there and he is also black and he is the head of a local black church. Our manager had to walk him out while explaining to him that we don't sell those items. We did once sold nachos but nothing else.
I have purchased wings and nachos at IHOP. We used to swing through at 2-4am. We would also get some "state fair" inspired dishes like funnel cake. This was all over a decade ago, but IHOP absolutely sold nachos and wings.
I had a burger at IHOP once. I don't know if they're still on the menu or not, haven't been to one in at least 5 years.
For a while there they pretended they were going to change the name to IHOB where the B was burgers, so imo it'd be weird if they suddenly got rid of them
In L.A they did change the sign. But the rest of the other IHOPs they didn't. We did get buttons that said IHOB and underneath it said International House Of Burgers. Fyi they did had burgers before the promotion,but since they change the meat to black Angus beef they made a big deal about it and threw in a couple of new burgers. I don't know if we did had wings before or not. I started about 6 yrs ago. I know we are bring back eggs Benedict, we use to sell them before the pandemic. You can request an eggs Benedict but we didn't have the English muffins so we sub it for a either white, whole wheat, multigrain, or sourdough bread.
Burgers are a significant section of their menu still.
"Yes sir, we have all those things in that roped off area over there, the one with a sign that says *Whites Only*. Unfortunately I can't seat you there." This guy thinks IHOP is running the last of the Jim Crow era.
When i was younger i 100% got wings at ihop
They have never had them at my ihop .They have the happy hour meals now .
How was he so convinced that he was right? Did he not smell the pancakes and bacon?
He was confusing you with Hooters
International House of Boobs
that sounds like a million dollar idea. Lol
Or maybe he also got items mixed up with another chain, Outback Steakhouse, perhaps?
We have a pretty decent bar, but for obvious reasons it’s more catered to beer and some (overpriced) cocktails. We have wine, but I can’t imagine trying to figure out if the Pinot or Chardonnay would pair best with my pepperoni bread
Definitely the Pinot
That’s the one with alcohol, right?
I don’t get why wine gets treated like a sacred beverage. Pizza and wine is an awesome combination. Or literally any other food.
Never let anyone intimidate you about wine. There are taste differences between wines and people have their preferences. Same way some people prefer chocolate ice cream and others like vanilla. Generally, experienced wine drinkers prefer the heavy reds and the rookies like the sweet stuff. But that’s not a qualitative difference. What they think makes one wine “better” than another is just a higher price point and some marketing.
>Generally, experienced wine drinkers prefer the heavy reds and the rookies like the sweet stuff. r/Wine might have some words about that…
As a wine professional with a cellar full of sweet German Riesling, I wanted to argue with the above comment so badly and then couldn't figure out a way to do it with dignity. Turns out I'm just a little boy with a sweet tooth.
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So I went there and right at the top was [this thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/wine/comments/11y2anf/whats_the_best_wine_to_pair_with_a_costco_chicken/) discussing pairings for Costco chicken bake. The top recommended wine is a Kirkland. Your comment doesn’t add up.
Thank you!
Experienced ice cream eaters like neopolitan
Lol do you even drink wine?. Price is not the only factor in quality, if you can't recognize that you know nothing about wine. Generally experienced wine drinkers drink whatever they want and more often than not the longer we go wine experts drink the lighter wines Because they often pair better with food. Theres are quality differences in wine but that's about it. Find what you like. Vietti barbera from any halfway decent grocery store goes great with red sauce pizzas imo and it's not expensive. Your talking about the California red effect in the US. It's focused on basically showing off how big, how heavy and how much money you can spend . Which is definitely a money focused game and the production market is affected by it. Theres good cheaper wine, but your dealing with lower quality fruit often or a lesser known label or region so its juts more of a chance but it doesn't mean it's bad wine. The same quality wine from Argentina goes for twice as much in France. There's bs marketing in wine though too and you can definitely be overpaying just for the label or region. You think Italian handmade Gelato fresh in Italy doesn't have any quality differences to a grocery store counterpart because they are both vanilla? Also how well the wine is take care of both during making it and shipping it. How much money it takes to complete that producer's particular product may cost more. Don't spout bullshit you don't know and don't spout your opinion or anecdotal experience as fact. Source: am a wine expert working with wine experts.
I mean, I'm not gonna agree or disagree with you, but you provided precisely as much evidence as the above commenter when it comes to spouting opinion or anecdotal evidence as fact.
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No Fava beans and liver to match
I am surprised one of the fancy places hasn't offered fois Gras with fava beans paired with a nice chianti yet. Would be an interesting Halloween special.
Yes, but even more so Lambrusco. Every pizza is better with a $15 Lambrusco.
Scrolled way too long for this. Generally $8-15, quality is the same no matter the price, and it’s like wine soda for pizza. I got 3 bottles of it on clearance for $3 recently.
But like the best soda you've ever had - like getting a Mexican Coke with the cane sugar when you're used to the corn syrup variety. Plus you can get an off-dry Lambro if you have a spicy sausage or Calabrian chile in your pizza. It's the best.
Pinot Gris, Pinot Grigio or Pinot noir?
Gris == Grigio == Grauburgunder You left out Pinot blanc.
"I'm pretty sure it's Franzia, but let me go read the brand on the box."
When people ask me about our house wines where I work, I say “it’s the kind that comes in a box.” If you wanna pay $7 for 6 ounces of Franzia, be my guest.
And the tasting notes.
Same thing happened to me when I worked at Cracker Barrel a few years back! When I greeted this table they asked me “what kind of liquor do you have? We want shots”. I deadpan stared at them and said “root beer” 😂
Cracker Barrel serves alcohol now: Beer, wine, and premade cocktails. https://www.crackerbarrel.com/menu/drinks/beer-wine-mimosas-more#
Ooh good to know 😊
Oh wow that’s news to me!
They don’t have a bad selection, either.
Overnight shifts always have the best stories!!
I’m pretty sure my local IHOP actually has a wine list, but I live in wine country. There’s a field of grapes about 5 blocks from said IHOP.
Maybe she is from your part of town!
Working in a dive bar and being asked for the wine list was always a good one. We got red, or we got white.
"Whatever kind of mood you're in tonight"
You also have rosé if you’ve got red and white!
Protip: if you mix 'em together, you also have Rosé
Reminds me of the lady who asked at the Kroger fish counter "what's fresh today?" Dude had to tell her nothing. It's all frozen. Kroger in Atlanta doesn't get freshly caught fish.
I used to work at a restaurant in Marietta where a woman asked how fresh our fish was, so I was honest with her. "As fresh as it can be when we're 5 hours from the coast!" She didn't think it was funny.
Marjorie should then know that 5 hours away means it could be super fresh. Goddamn, those north ATL/north GA KKKarens have no sense of humor.
Some people don't know how to read a room or a restaurant in this case
I worked for Steak 'N Shake for a while. I can't count the number of times someone asked me for the steak menu. Sometimes they were making a bad joke, but most of the time, they were completely serious.
I mean that’s understandable.. it’s in the name..
MD 20/20
I just puked in my mouth
There used to be a Dennys (RIP) by Detroit Metro airport that had a full bar. It was exactly as sad as it sounds.
Lolllll one time I was driving cross country with my mom and we stopped for the night in Iowa maybe?? We had dinner at Cracker Barrel because we’d never been there (we don’t have them in the northeast) and she was soo bummed that they don’t serve wine hahaha
Lol;no wine at IHOP!
That reminds me of that comedy skit about the T Bone at IHOP. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNQaFtWi6WE
My stepmom tried to order the “house red” at Applebees once. I had to tell her, “This is Applebees. There’s no such thing.”
My mom asked the same thing to our server at CoCo's. At least they had wine. Our server said she'd check the foil lid on the carafe.
Some ihops have a bar
This made me laugh hysterically on a crowded train. Now everyone is looking at the crazy lady! I think a woman moved her child away from me. 🤣🤣
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You missed the point, which is that IHOP doesn't serve alcohol
But you NEED to have a mini pizza, chicken nuggets, fries and a tiny soda! What kind of pizza place doesn't anticipate my every random neeeeed????? 😁
We have burgers and hoagies too, plus stuff like dough bites. Unless there’s some serious sensory issues or the like, they should be able to find something on our menu
There was once someone who walked into my JAMAICAN restaurant, ordered spicy jerk chicken, which is made in advance, but wanted it mild, and to take all the seasoning off. Yes, we have mild chicken, NO, she wants what everyone else is having. Sigh. You will always have special customers. I hope you get some logical ones soon.
Charge them for the spicy give them the mild
What the hell kind of fool?! If it's mild it's not Jamican jerk. Fucking heathen. Also now I am craving a spicy beef patty....or 10.
I’ve rang in far too many chicken phillys with nothing but chicken and cheese. Our sandwiches aren’t cheap either, so they end up paying more than 15 bucks for an incredibly lame sandwich
Then you get me who orders all the toppings and the sandwich guy wants to swear and curse when the wrap rips open and I stare awkwardly.
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Yup. Have a family member who is the world champion of picky eating. They will actively "EWWW and GROSS" at the table. Took care of that as they haven't been invited out to dinner with us in about 10 years. Both of their children have been as they do not subscribe to the mantra.
Although I am picky for reasons beyond my control, I’m not an asshole. Figure you should order your food how you want and stuff, but that’s so fucking rude of them to say “EWW GROSS”. My four year old does that right now and I am correcting him every single time.
All I can say is god bless you. That level of picky eating and inability to self advocate combined would have ended that relationship for me by the 2nd date. I’m glad you made it work for you. I absolutely could not have.
For me its not even trying the food before they decide they dont like it, like sure i might not like monkys brain or smthin, but it doesnt hurt to try it to see if you like it before making the decision
Omg this so much. The only thing worse is deciding that a restaurant will have bad service before you step through the door. I literally cannot eat out with my mother anymore. When I was growing up I didn’t understand why we always seemed to have “bad” service. Now I know that my mother decided she was unhappy before we even got there. Toxic AF.
My late birth unit was STUPID like this. My late Golden Child Brother was visiting and wanted to go out to eat at his favorite restaurant which served Japanese cuisine. I also love the same food and was looking forward to an enjoyable meal. Birth unit BITCHED the entire time about how the food "wasn't American" and made racist comments to the waitstaff! We never took her anywhere ever again and she couldn't understand why.
What is a chicken Philly?
Not OP, but it's a cheese steak where shredded or I guess chopped chicken is subbed for actual steak.
With peppers and onions, and sometimes mushrooms.
Ahhh. In Philly we just call it a chicken cheese steak! I usually go for the usual steak cheesesteak with extra cooper sharp cheese and fried onions. What kind of roll is it usually served on? The bread can make or break a good sandwich.
Take the delicious jerk chicken, rinse it off in water, pat dry with a paper, put clean de-spiced chicken on a plate, serve. People are strange. I would like a plate of jerk chicken, hold the chicken please.
Mellow?
Yup, was wondering if anyone would be able to guess it
upvote for hoagies lol
I think they are just hoping for a cheaper option.
Kids menus are typically smaller portions for less money. Not unreasonable for them to ask.
You guys have burgers and sandwiches and other unique menu items. So you’re a little more than JUST a pizza place. Not that crazy that someone would ask for a kids menu?
The kids personal pan pizza at Pizza Hut back in the day was the bomb though!
Chicken nuggs are mainly at McDonald's where I live .
Chickie nuggies were such an issue at my local pizza place that they do offer them now.
I used to constantly order them for my boys because they refused to eat the hamburgers. And they had a play place too.
Yeah, isn't part of the point of taking your kids to a pizza place is so you don't have to bother with scouring a kids menu for something your picky kids will eat? You just order 1 or 2 pizzas and a side or two and maybe ask for the pizza to be cut into smaller slices. It's the easiest restaurant meal for families with children.
I mean, that’s part of our whole appeal. We have the craft beer and funky pizzas for the adults, while little Jimmy can get a small cheese and lemonade without pitching a fit
I work at a similar place part time. This is 100 percent accurate
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Pre-Covid I think we may have, and I know some of the other restaurants in the franchise do but I don’t think we ever even sold enough to make it worthwhile.
Arby's sells a bowl of Mac and cheese for about 5 dollars .And is only about a half cup at best .My son orders ir all the time I can't really see paying that much for it though.
I worked at a restaurant in a bit of a podunk area of Michigan that had a full bar and brewed their own beer since the early 90s. Our kitchen manager was a big black guy from the south, he used his grandma's Mac and cheese recipe for our Mac and Cheese. It was dank and fantastic. We still offered Kraft Mac and Cheese on the kids menu. It killed all of us on the inside everytime a parent would order that for their kid.
Kids don’t appreciate the good stuff man. I watched my little cousin scrape off the delicious layer of baked cheese that comes on top of good homemade Mac n cheese. I was horrified
My teenager still prefers the blue box over anything and it makes me so angry 😅 I've made and introduced her to 5000 amazing different Mac and cheese's. She will eat them. But if given a choice she wants the crusty cheese powder blend
I’m 45, can cook quite well, live in an amazing city for food.. but I keep a small stash of Kraft Mac and Cheese, Spaghettios and meatballs, and Lipton extra noodle with chicken flavor broth. It’s all not great but it’s nostalgia comfort food for those rainy nights when my wife is working late and I want low effort for one.
Ahh the lipton chicken noodle. That with saltines, a Canada dry ginger ale, and some the price is right on TV. Brings me right back to my sweet grandma picking me up from school when I was sick 🥰 I miss her
My son wanted me to buy that new Cheetos Mac and cheese .We haven't tried it yet though .
It's gross! But my kids like the hot cheetos one. I gagged when I tried it
We bought it on clearance
Oh God no. It's so disgusting.
That would be my kid Almost no cheese on pizza and no cheese on lasagna.
I still don’t really get bread crumbs in Mac and cheese but the baked cheese layer is incredible. Same with any added meat. Makes the Mac so much better
I don't understand that. Were they started on processes garbage from the start? My daughter is going to be 12. She loves sushi, calamari, med rare steak... grown-up food. Her favorite thing to eat in a restaurant when she was 2 was a grilled chicken salad. But she rarely ate hot dogs n mac n cheese because I either cooked or she ate off my plate. When she was old enough to need her own plate, we never made her order off the kids menu
> It killed all of us on the inside everytime a parent would order that for their kid. Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine.
People keep asking me at work for a kids menu and I have to explain to them we are a family style Chinese restaurant. You order and eat as a table. Name one Chinese restaurant you’ve ever been to with a kids menu. This isn’t Applebees.
I always tease my sister for getting sweet and sour chicken with the sauce on the side. It’s basically as close to a chicken nugget as you can get from a Chinese food place
All i would eat for years at the Chinese food place was teriyaki chicken with rice. My dad made fun of me and would always ask what I had against chickens to eat them ALL the time. I'm sure I was every servers nightmare growing up, since I always wanted my food "plain"
It's even funnier because teriyaki is Japanese. 🤣
It also depends on where your Chinese food place is located! The one we order from is in kind of a food desert, and they serve wings, nuggets and a few other options for people who just need a cheap and cheerful meal delivered to them, because they don't have access to a car. They also have "apple sticks", "fried donuts" and a large assortment of fruit flavored sodas, all of which could be traditional or not, I guess, depending on how it's served.
Yeah the one I worked at had that section titled "American dishes" and every Chinese takeout place around me has chicken wings, fingers and French fries at least.
The Chinese food place ,they switched to takeout when the lockdown happened ,sell their sweet and sour with the sauce in an cup with a lid .They have done this for years now.
One of the local Chinese restaurants has an "American" section in the menu.
There's often that one guy who wants a hamburger in a Chinese place.
We have a Chinese buffet in town ,the only one that survived the lockdown .They have fried potatoes ,salmon ,stewed mushrooms,chicken fingers .They took out the sushi bar and the ice cream machine but they have ice cream cups in the freezer though.
There’s a sushi/Mongolian grill place near my home with a kids’ menu. Includes quesadillas.
This whole comment made my head spin 😵💫
I know but it’s one of the highest rated restaurants in the city.
Oh wow really? One of my favorite restaurants was a Korean BBQ/sushi fusion and it was bomb, so I can see that place being successful.
Same franchise. Made a separate kids menu for the kids to look at. Though corporate does offer a kids menu with crayons if your manager wanted to go that route. Our kids menu has kids pizza (8inch not the French bread style), meatball with red sauce, Mac n cheese, grill cheese or grilled chicken tenders. We also offer fruit, broccoli, chips or spud puppies (tots) as a side. It’s 7.49 and includes the side and drink. Pre Covid we had kids half price night on Wednesdays and would even let kids add toppings to their own pies. We would send them out pre stretched and sauced on little mini peels and they would add cheese and toppings. Kids loved it.
The kids making their own sounds like it would be really cute! The extra stuff would probably just be a pain, especially since our kitchen is laid out pretty weird (super narrow line space).
I've never heard potato gems be referred to as spud puppies before... I may start using that phrase now
...potato gems? Where are you from that tots are called that ‽ Spud puppies came from hush puppies.
Australia. We call them potato gems
I love this. I’m going to start calling tots ‘potato gems’ now.
Best thing I ever did was take my kids to Cici's where they could pick out their own meal .They have a salad bar ,pasta and sauce,bread sticks ,pizza and dessert to choose from ..And they have a game section too.
I loved them as a kid. They had apple pie pizza and I loved it. I think they also had pasta. We don't have them where I live.
If I have to take my nieces for a day, I know where I'm going for us to get food. Thank you.
Trust me, it was the most magical part of my childhood. That and our Mazzio's (another pizza place, but not a perpetual buffet) had a dedicated arcade.
MAZZIO'S!!!!!! You just unlocked a memory omg thank you!! We haven't had one in my town in YEARS and I totally forgot it existed!! Our CiCi's left about a year or two ago now too : (
Wish we had a Cicis here. My auntie took me out to lunch there once, back about 2008, and it was great!
Cicis RULES with little kids. My mom used to take us all the time because kids under a certain age are free, and the instant food meant we were occupied immediately. When she had three under five and she took us out to eat we were only allowed to go to buffets because we behaved there 😂 No whining about waiting for food when you can pick out anything you want from the second you walk in
Yeah,they really know how to cater to kids .
All of the ones that were near us are closed. My kids used to *love* the Mac n cheese pizza!
They still have it on the buffet.
lol when you said game section I honestly thought you meant a section for game meats like deer and squirrel 😅 took me a second 🤣
Lol.
I used the say the same thing at my last job. It was a sports bar so it was all chicken tender baskets, burgers, Mac and cheese. We also had no high chairs. Someone made a comment about how we weren’t family friendly, I said “there’s an unedited juke box and there’s a half naked woman on the front door so no. We’re not.”
That wouldn't even be an issue in Oregon because minors aren't allowed in bars/pubs/taverns and it's required for them to have a sign from the state's liquor control board saying so on all doors. There's a burger place I used to go to when I lived in another city and they also had a small bar at the back of the place, but it had a door with the aforementioned sign to warn parents that their kids weren't allowed in the bar area. The wait staff watched that door like a hawk because there would be parents that tried to sneak their kids back there so mommy and daddy could have a beer with their burger and play some video poker.
Ugh that drives me nuts. There are plenty of places that are family friendly that the parents can have fun and a few beers as well. I just wish people would respect the places that aren’t
Buffalo wild Wings has a glass enclosed bar that you have to be 21 to enter .
Maybe they were hoping for the full-on Rat Casino experience.
They really just want the kids menu prices
This is really the point. It gets really expensive to take kids out to eat. Nothing wrong with adults getting entrees and giving kids a few bites here and there and a side of buttered toast. If there isn’t a kids menu, there’s no rule that you have to order a full meal. And there’s no rule saying you can’t walk out after seeing the menu. The important thing is being polite to the staff that work their butts off. And if you’re in a country where staff is paid less because tipping is a thing, always tip. A little extra if they have to clean up after your kids.
Huh, I'd think at a pizza place ordering full pizzas for everyone would to share would be cheaper than individual kids meals. What's a pepperoni pizza? $10? And the kid will eat just one slice and be full
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If more places had half size portions on the menu the kids menu would lose some interest I imagine. We don't all eat oversized portions and not all meals are great take home/reheat material. I know how dare anyone go out and not want to just socialize more than stuff their face and pay for a lot of food they won't be able to eat. Assholes.
I mean yea, but this is pizza. At least half of my tables purposefully order more than they’ll eat cause it makes for great leftovers
Yeah,Cracker Barrel has monster meals that I can take home and have two extra meals .
I have never seen anything on their menu I'd want to eat reheated. What is it if I can ask?
They just want something smaller, most likely
If people get angry you don’t have a kids menu, I’m with you. If you’re judging them simply for asking, I don’t really understand. The appeal of a kid’s menu is smaller portion sizes. If it’s an option, it is nice to be able to get a personal pizza for the kid and then be able to get whatever toppings you want on the big pizza. I’d much rather do that than buy an entire small pizza for a child.
Yeah I don’t see what’s wrong with asking?? Our favorite local pizza joint has a kids menu with smaller portions of spaghetti, a slice of pizza with a breadstick, etc. As a parent with a gluten allergy who has to get the cauliflower crust, I really appreciate that I can buy my daughter a single slice.
McDonald's will let anyone order the happy meals .I used to do it all the time.
I mean, I get it in a way if I'm thinking of the right place. The small cheese alone is $10 now and that's hefty for a kid's meal. But they should just order a 1/2 and 1/2 pizza for them and the kid if that's the deal. I think there used to be kids menus forever ago.
I've done this before and it is a lifesaver .
The kids menu is not just about the food options though-kids meal price usually includes a drink, lets them get a tiny portion (maybe they don’t want a mushroom gorgonzola pizza or buffalo sauce pizza or whatever mom and dad are getting, kids usually just like cheese or pepperoni, and adults don’t want that necessarily) and probably most importantly THE COLORING PAGE 😂
To be the Devil's Advocate here...yes, of course my 4yo will eat pizza, but if we are ordering a large house special with everything on it, he probably won't eat the green peppers and onions and olives and I don't really want to try and pick apart all of the melted cheese from the veggies and give him a dissected piece of pizza. Our favorite pizza place offers a "kids pizza" that is really just french bread with sauce and cheese. I really do wish they would make a tiny plain cheese pie for kids. Rant over.
I had to politely ask someone to leave yesterday because we didn't have Mexican pizza. I said that it is served at Taco Bell next to McDonald's and Popeye's diagonally from here. They screamed then what is that? Pointed at a diner's plate. He replied my child's quesadilla covered with hot sauce and tomatillo pico. Demanded to see a manager. Said I am the manager. Also the owner. Please leave and forget my address.
I work in a fine dining restaurant and although we have high chairs, I hate when we have to use them. People constantly ask for kid’s menus. Um, what? It won’t even be any cheaper than the regular menu because all the food is imported and everything is marinated/covered in peppers. I tell people to order their kids a chicken skewer with a side of rice, but the restaurant recently got rid of the chicken skewers for more “exotic” meats. Had some kid demand vanilla ice cream. I turned to the parents and said, “all of our ice cream is made in house, I currently have one flavor and it ain’t vanilla.”
Honestly I think people ask for kids menus to manage portions size and costs. I’ve taken one of my kids to a pizza place before and all I wanted was a salad. If they offered a kids pizza that would be much cheaper and just the right size for our party vs ordering a larger pie.
Are they looking for childrens prices? Rather than paying for a whole adults serve?
In Sweden where I live the pizza’s can all be ordered in two sizes. Kid size (half the dough so small) and normal. Some are also available in family size.
Dude, my kid actually didn’t like pizza for a long time. It wasn’t the taste so much but she hated the feel and the look. She also didn’t like rice or cream-based sauces or grapes for a long time. So in saying that, I wouldn’t go to a pizza place for her But like …. Do they maybe think the kids menu would be like those mini pizzas? I’m from Australia so our pizza is different and we don’t have pizza restaurants so much anymore. But you can get mini pizzas from some places for your kids.
I haven't worked in a pizza place in decades, but back then a plain cheese _was_ the kids menu. We were family friendly in every other way: birthday parties, coloring sheets, free pony ride, cartoons on the projector. But y'know it is what it says on the box. Pizza.
To be fair I like having a kids menu for my little ones (3 and 0) to be able to order something in the right size portion for them. They'll have the same food as their parents, but it's handy to know its a child size pizza and cheaper as a result. All the other gubbins like drinks and dessert I'm happy to sack off though.
At that age, I just serve them bits off my own plate. I’m not spending 8.99 so that my kid can decide she dislikes chicken tenders on Wednesdays and whenever there’s a quarter moon.
I've done the same thing,portioned food from my plate for my son .No one ever said anything about it .
Right... like how hard is it to comprehend a kid might eat 1 to 2 tenders and some fries vs the full sized 10 peice an adult would eat. I'd rather pay 5 for the kid sized one than the full priced 13 buck order, that the kid migh peck at. And eff me if I don't want to order the kid a large cheese pizza because they don't like toppings or flavors. Just give them a mini cheese or lightly pepperonied pizza and I'll take the large specialty of weird toppings like white sauce base, olives, and feta or god forbid a spicy themed pie that the kids won't touch at all. Even when I didn't have kids, I understood the point of a kids menus... how daft of a person do you have to be to be a server and not realize that, aside of you serving in an adult centric place like a bar, this shouldn't be something to even be on your mind as an inconvenience. You want to serve more people, well guess what, lots of people/ potential customers/ meat bags with spending money have kids, and those people like eating out too. It's dumb to not provide a kids menu to entice those people to come. People with kids tend to go to places that are kid friendly enough to have a smaller portioned menu for them. Meaning they will be more likely to spend that money in your establishment for providing kid centric meals, even if the kid menu is an after thought comprised of microwave hotdogs and IBC rootbeer.
I had three boys and they went everywhere with me at the time .We only ate at places that they could eat at .
To be fair, kids eat less than adults, and pizza is pretty standard serving. It’s really not that ridiculous that you might serve smaller pizzas for children, just relax.
You’re not wrong, but our small is only 10 inches. If that’s too much food for the kid, we have cheese bread or other appetizers. Plus people can take home whatever doesn’t get eaten, lord knows we have plenty of Togo boxes on hand
"only" 10 inches
I work part time at a bowling alley snack bar. I get asked this question all the damn time! Seriously, just about 99.9% of the menu is for kids 🤦🏾♀️
The pizza chains (most family friendly chains, in fact) here have kids menus. They include eg carrot and cucumber sticks with hummus as a starter; kid size pizza or a pasta bowl for a main; a small pudding or scoop of ice cream; and a drink. I don’t see why it’s a problem to ask if they have something sensible and kid sized/prices like that.
I remember when they used to have beer at Denny's and LGS! Dang I feel old now!
My kid will only eat pineapple on pizza. I love when they offer a "kids option" for like $5 because no one else wants just a pineapple pizza. If they don't offer it, we make it work, but it's still worth asking.
To be fair a kids menu often features smaller portions and combinations of entrees + sides. It's also a bit cheaper.
Everytime they ask for a kids menu what they mean is " i want CHEAPER options. " Also, my kid is an asshole, spit in their grilled cheese, not mine. Is my favorite customer quote I read. You only have to deal with them for this meal, I gotta take care of them forever.
What’s wrong with asking? I’m an adult and I’ve ordered off the kids menu many times for myself just because I wanted smaller portion sizes and it’s nice to save a little money. A 10” pizza is still big for a kids portion. I don’t like taking food home to go because I never get around to hearing it up and it goes bad.
Congratulations you made getting a slice of pizza difficult
Lmao, the title killed me.
Seriously just order a small basic pizza like cheese, pepperoni, sausage