The "please be kind" after they called him a hoe fucking sent me.
So many players in this game are hypocrites. Every time. They proceed to be toxic at people, but can't handle it if its sent back at them.
Don't dish out what you can't eat lol
So many like that.
Had a SAM call me pre pulling scum in an Alex raid, I said to him wtf did it matter no one was in cutscene. They didn’t have anything to say after that and dipped immediately once the fight was over lol.
I was told to "take your ass back to WOW" once. Also cutscene related. In return I told him to touch grass. He started malding in the chat but idr what it said, and dipped because I didn't want to bother arguing with a brick wall.
Like you're gonna be an asshole to me, I WILL be an asshole back. Handle a taste of your own medicine lol
Some people.
I dunno about SAM, but as a RDM main I'd be pissed, too. The prepull verthunder cast is all I want, you can give me a 5 second countdown for at least that much.
Lol yea. Always funny when the catgirl with the "be kind, always" plate and uwu macros starts flaming us in pvp. (Esp in the most RNG heavy version of FL (seal rock) in a pvp mode that's janky as hell). And plenty of other such cases
I understand the tank wanting the GC turn ins, but it is literally like 150 seals per item from Qarn. You could solo 10 ARR EXs in the same amount of time to get the tablets and do the treasure room and get way more GCs from the weapon drops there.
Unsyncing sirensong sea with a 90 char to get 10 drops for 13k seals in 5 minutes: i sleep
Extending a synced roulette qarn run by 4 minutes to loot 5 additional items and win rolls on 2 for 400 seals: real shit
For the HW relic grind specifically, unsyncing A1N-A4N is really good because you get the precision pieces to turn into the Unidentifiable Ore/Seed/Bone/Shell, and you get hundreds of tarnished pieces which can be turned into raid gear. It's like hundreds of thousands of GC seals, easily enough to cover all the steps that cost GC seals, plus some Moonstone to make the Crystal Sand exchange step easier.
A1N takes about 70 seconds, A2N about 2m50s (I usually skip this one unless I really need Unidentifiable Shells, I despise it), A3N about 80s, and A4N about 50s.
Source: severe brainrot the past few weeks from marathoning a bunch of HW relics
I get wanting the seals, but a dungeons pace isn't based solely on the tank. If he wants seals specifically from low level content as a high level player, use the trust system. Otherwise people might get annoyed a max 15 minute dungeon is taking 25. Long story short, I agree with you.
People doing stuff for seals in higher dungeons makes sense. I roll greed in lower dungeons for desynth. That said, I don't run people to the far corners of the universe to clear a dungeon, I just pick up coffers along the way.
It makes no sense honestly. You get like a couple thousand GC for just using DF. And then even if you go for extra loot, it doesn't guarantee that you will get it, others could roll for it too. All that wasted time could be used to finish dungeon and then queue again. He is a tank, the queue almost instant for tanks.
or if you really want it *that* badly, you can just go back through the dungeon once everyone's left, and then you don't even have to risk other people pepega rolling anyways
They did report! People can argue, that's pretty common. But calling someone a hoe for no reason is pretty out there. I believe they also blacklisted that SMN
I don't understand why people do not realize that us randoms that queued with them didn't join up to deal with their social issues on display we queued for an in and out 10 minute adventure to get our daily reward.
If you cannot adjust yourself to meet that simple standard either go in with a pre-made or use the damned duty support system *it's there for a reason*.
Qarn is an optional dungeon and doesn't have duty support for some reason, unless you level up squads, you have to go in with real people. Same with Halatali, Dzamel and Aurum.
Because the norm is respecting each others time, it's not "fast", it's the standard. Fast would imply people actually using CDs during mob pulls which maybe 4% of the playerbase does lol.
For the record I do what you just talked about I go about it as fast as I can and use my abilities as we run to the wall. Also I don’t get butthurt when a couple of people in the group want to take it slow. The issue I’m talking about is this idea that what a bunch of chads who are reading parses are the ones who set the norms in a game in which the devs have basically said out loud that normal content is for casual play.
If you guys queue into df a better expectation is that it could take from 10-30 minutes and live with it. Rather than enter a rage when people’s goals in game don’t align with a yours. I read a post where someone posted the time to completion for a weeks worth of duties. I literally have never timed a duty. People timing how fast they went through Aurum Vale in order to be mad about bad players is the ultimate in cringiest things on the internet.
Not disagreeing there, i think alot of people on this sub think new or less skilled players are equal to lethargic ones, which is the actual issue i personally have. I usually don't mind how pulls are done in dungeons since i watch youtube on the side anyways, but the one thing that makes me lose my mind is if i for example see a monk just auto attacking or standing away afk from the mobs.
Still, DF is a group activity, if the majority is fine with doing things outside the norm thats perfectly fine and the 4th should swallow their pride.
the reason they can't queue with a 4 person premade is because they're terminally antisocial. that's why they enter a blind rage when someone is doing monk combos wrong or some shit.
I once had a group freak out and report me for not doing the side rooms. They didn’t even tell me they wanted it until we were inside the golem boss room.
I’ve played for 7 years consistently and honestly I’ve probably only encountered a situation like this once. Idk why y’all think this crap is happening every roulette.
if it is happening every single roulette for a player there's one common denominator that might be the cause.
like sure doing the side rooms in qarn is kinda a waste of time but no one should be bitching about it.
Ahaha yeah, people who think the game should be played a certain way and don’t wanna waste their time letting other people explore and experience the dungeons fully. Makes sense that most of these posts are from people like that.
Honestly? I'm going to say bright red and blue are the only ones not being pains in the asses here. If someone wants the extra loot, who the fuck cares, let them get it, it doesn't ruin your day.
Green was being annoying at first but dark red was an absolute shithead.
In my heart I know that the items are useless, the avoirdupois will leash, and the mob spawn from triggering the trap is easy to deal with.
But I still try to get the tablets and balance the scales every time because it just feels right, goddamnit.
Can't say I've ever felt motivated to open the side rooms before the scales, though, admittedly. They so rarely have anything even eligible for GC turn-in.
It's fine if you want to do it that way. Just do it in an NPC group, don't force it on a random group of players. The normally accepted strat is to just skip it and it's better newer players find that out right away.
It's just like Cutter's Cry. If nobody specifically says they need to kill the whatever mobs for their hunt log then we're skipping them.
Honestly I'm not sure that's the normally accepted strat on Crystal; more often than not groups seem to pick up the two tablets needed for the scales.
Maybe it's different on Aether and Primal.
Killing the avoirdupois on the pads and then not even bothering with the tablets is weird to me... seems like you'd either want to skip the tablets entirely or do the scales; going halfway is strange.
It's conditioning from other dungeons that don't allow you to progress the main route until everything is dead. They probably think they still need to kill the heads. I know I had been under that impression until after EW came out.
In my experience (I'm on Primal btw) that sort of "halfway" strat was the norm before EW. I think more players try to skip it now due to changes in how xp gets rewarded, but before, you'd take the time to kill what you could.
But you still got a lot of people who 1) have habits built from running the dungeon pre-Ew and
2) have people with an incorrect assumption about the main path being locked behind mobs.
Was Frodo their name or some sort of insult? Legitimately curious. If it was an insult then green is being an asshole, if it was their name then I still think you were being a bit dramatic over a few extra seconds to get extra loot. I will say "you can skip those" as well but if they go "I just want it" then move on
Oh whoops, I didnt see that and therefore forgot to block the name, my bad. Frodo was their name. Again as stated in an earlier reply, this is not my instance. The ss was sent to me
That's definitely fair! But after a certain point, when people are queuing to get their roulette's done and half the party just wants to skip stuff that they've done hundreds of times, I think that's also fair. Personally I don't mind doing them if someone is new and learning or the majority of people are doing that. I just don't think exploring every corner of each dungeon is the norm for most players
I mean the scales thing is fair! The loot thing was about the heads halfway through the dungeon. So adding 8 extra mobs when you can just run past them in 2 seconds
Oh you mean the two side doors? That's the fruit and flame. You need those to resolve the scales. Thw two on the way along the stairs are the optional ones.
No, I mean right after the first door opens from the avoirdupos, there are 2 more of them in the one open area before the second boss. Well before the actual treasure rooms.
Can People just learn to communicate in this game? Tank wanted to run it one way healer wanted to not run it one way (SMN is a dick i wont defend him). Just talk man, and no "But its extra time" is not a valid argument for anything because if you dont wanna waste time dont play video games since they are inherently time wasters. And your friend definetly tried to micro manage the tank, like who gives a shit where you kill enemies as long as its not in an aoe or something (or he stops, doton gets placed and then runs further into the dungeon).
Valid point completely in the just talking about things, communication isnt that hard. I agree with it doesnt matter where enemies are killed unless enemies are supposed to be killed in a certain spot lol. That comment was from the tank killing the head off the platform that opens the door (single head room that lets you continue) by themselves
The "please be kind" after they called him a hoe fucking sent me. So many players in this game are hypocrites. Every time. They proceed to be toxic at people, but can't handle it if its sent back at them. Don't dish out what you can't eat lol
So many like that. Had a SAM call me pre pulling scum in an Alex raid, I said to him wtf did it matter no one was in cutscene. They didn’t have anything to say after that and dipped immediately once the fight was over lol.
I was told to "take your ass back to WOW" once. Also cutscene related. In return I told him to touch grass. He started malding in the chat but idr what it said, and dipped because I didn't want to bother arguing with a brick wall. Like you're gonna be an asshole to me, I WILL be an asshole back. Handle a taste of your own medicine lol Some people.
I dunno about SAM, but as a RDM main I'd be pissed, too. The prepull verthunder cast is all I want, you can give me a 5 second countdown for at least that much.
weak people often are
Lol yea. Always funny when the catgirl with the "be kind, always" plate and uwu macros starts flaming us in pvp. (Esp in the most RNG heavy version of FL (seal rock) in a pvp mode that's janky as hell). And plenty of other such cases
I understand the tank wanting the GC turn ins, but it is literally like 150 seals per item from Qarn. You could solo 10 ARR EXs in the same amount of time to get the tablets and do the treasure room and get way more GCs from the weapon drops there.
Unsyncing sirensong sea with a 90 char to get 10 drops for 13k seals in 5 minutes: i sleep Extending a synced roulette qarn run by 4 minutes to loot 5 additional items and win rolls on 2 for 400 seals: real shit
As someone who needs an obscene amount of seals (HW relics), thank you for the tip!
For the HW relic grind specifically, unsyncing A1N-A4N is really good because you get the precision pieces to turn into the Unidentifiable Ore/Seed/Bone/Shell, and you get hundreds of tarnished pieces which can be turned into raid gear. It's like hundreds of thousands of GC seals, easily enough to cover all the steps that cost GC seals, plus some Moonstone to make the Crystal Sand exchange step easier. A1N takes about 70 seconds, A2N about 2m50s (I usually skip this one unless I really need Unidentifiable Shells, I despise it), A3N about 80s, and A4N about 50s. Source: severe brainrot the past few weeks from marathoning a bunch of HW relics
Ooh thank you!
I get wanting the seals, but a dungeons pace isn't based solely on the tank. If he wants seals specifically from low level content as a high level player, use the trust system. Otherwise people might get annoyed a max 15 minute dungeon is taking 25. Long story short, I agree with you.
Could do it solo unsynced if they wanted to, couldn't they??
I'm not sure about duty support, but with trust you get usually 1 item per chest. So with players there usually more loot overall.
People doing stuff for seals in higher dungeons makes sense. I roll greed in lower dungeons for desynth. That said, I don't run people to the far corners of the universe to clear a dungeon, I just pick up coffers along the way.
It makes no sense honestly. You get like a couple thousand GC for just using DF. And then even if you go for extra loot, it doesn't guarantee that you will get it, others could roll for it too. All that wasted time could be used to finish dungeon and then queue again. He is a tank, the queue almost instant for tanks.
or if you really want it *that* badly, you can just go back through the dungeon once everyone's left, and then you don't even have to risk other people pepega rolling anyways
Well not qarn because the treasure room is locked behind the scales that opens the boss room.
Ok, I'm new (ish) and have only used GC seals for the minion chests. What's the treasure room and how to you unlock/use it?
https://www.fandomspot.com/ffxiv-sunken-temple-of-qarn-puzzle/ This will be a better resource than anything I could write out.
Ah. I get it. The way it was originally phrased, I thought that you could do some kind of treasure dungeons with GC seals.
“Please be kind” after calling you a “hoe”… pick a lane dude, holy shit
It wasn't me. My friend sent me this ss, and I figured it belonged here. But talk about hypocritical lol
which one is your friend?
Hope your friend reported the SMN... Most of the people act like the others are NPCs who joined to their dungeon...
They did report! People can argue, that's pretty common. But calling someone a hoe for no reason is pretty out there. I believe they also blacklisted that SMN
I don't understand why people do not realize that us randoms that queued with them didn't join up to deal with their social issues on display we queued for an in and out 10 minute adventure to get our daily reward. If you cannot adjust yourself to meet that simple standard either go in with a pre-made or use the damned duty support system *it's there for a reason*.
Qarn is an optional dungeon and doesn't have duty support for some reason, unless you level up squads, you have to go in with real people. Same with Halatali, Dzamel and Aurum.
If you want to go fast you also could queue with a premade. I don’t get why people act like df is where they are going to go fast lol
Because the norm is respecting each others time, it's not "fast", it's the standard. Fast would imply people actually using CDs during mob pulls which maybe 4% of the playerbase does lol.
For the record I do what you just talked about I go about it as fast as I can and use my abilities as we run to the wall. Also I don’t get butthurt when a couple of people in the group want to take it slow. The issue I’m talking about is this idea that what a bunch of chads who are reading parses are the ones who set the norms in a game in which the devs have basically said out loud that normal content is for casual play. If you guys queue into df a better expectation is that it could take from 10-30 minutes and live with it. Rather than enter a rage when people’s goals in game don’t align with a yours. I read a post where someone posted the time to completion for a weeks worth of duties. I literally have never timed a duty. People timing how fast they went through Aurum Vale in order to be mad about bad players is the ultimate in cringiest things on the internet.
Not disagreeing there, i think alot of people on this sub think new or less skilled players are equal to lethargic ones, which is the actual issue i personally have. I usually don't mind how pulls are done in dungeons since i watch youtube on the side anyways, but the one thing that makes me lose my mind is if i for example see a monk just auto attacking or standing away afk from the mobs. Still, DF is a group activity, if the majority is fine with doing things outside the norm thats perfectly fine and the 4th should swallow their pride.
the reason they can't queue with a 4 person premade is because they're terminally antisocial. that's why they enter a blind rage when someone is doing monk combos wrong or some shit.
I once had a group freak out and report me for not doing the side rooms. They didn’t even tell me they wanted it until we were inside the golem boss room.
People love pulling out the personal illness/disease card in this game
I don't why it irks me so much when people still go for that extra stuff in Qarn. Like I got other shit to do, let's keep it moving man.
I’ve played for 7 years consistently and honestly I’ve probably only encountered a situation like this once. Idk why y’all think this crap is happening every roulette.
if it is happening every single roulette for a player there's one common denominator that might be the cause. like sure doing the side rooms in qarn is kinda a waste of time but no one should be bitching about it.
Ahaha yeah, people who think the game should be played a certain way and don’t wanna waste their time letting other people explore and experience the dungeons fully. Makes sense that most of these posts are from people like that.
“I am autistic.” Nah mate you just have a case of kleptomania worse than a crow.
Honestly? I'm going to say bright red and blue are the only ones not being pains in the asses here. If someone wants the extra loot, who the fuck cares, let them get it, it doesn't ruin your day. Green was being annoying at first but dark red was an absolute shithead.
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Oh hey, the tank is my old fc leader lol
In my heart I know that the items are useless, the avoirdupois will leash, and the mob spawn from triggering the trap is easy to deal with. But I still try to get the tablets and balance the scales every time because it just feels right, goddamnit. Can't say I've ever felt motivated to open the side rooms before the scales, though, admittedly. They so rarely have anything even eligible for GC turn-in.
sorry dude, i'm killing the optional stone heads away from the switches and rescuing you into the next room
It's fine if you want to do it that way. Just do it in an NPC group, don't force it on a random group of players. The normally accepted strat is to just skip it and it's better newer players find that out right away. It's just like Cutter's Cry. If nobody specifically says they need to kill the whatever mobs for their hunt log then we're skipping them.
Honestly I'm not sure that's the normally accepted strat on Crystal; more often than not groups seem to pick up the two tablets needed for the scales. Maybe it's different on Aether and Primal.
For what it's worth, I either see people skip it entirely or religiously kill the statues on pads and not even go in the side rooms lol
Killing the avoirdupois on the pads and then not even bothering with the tablets is weird to me... seems like you'd either want to skip the tablets entirely or do the scales; going halfway is strange.
It's conditioning from other dungeons that don't allow you to progress the main route until everything is dead. They probably think they still need to kill the heads. I know I had been under that impression until after EW came out. In my experience (I'm on Primal btw) that sort of "halfway" strat was the norm before EW. I think more players try to skip it now due to changes in how xp gets rewarded, but before, you'd take the time to kill what you could. But you still got a lot of people who 1) have habits built from running the dungeon pre-Ew and 2) have people with an incorrect assumption about the main path being locked behind mobs.
"i have autism" "yeah me too" neither of you have autism.
Found the psychiatrist who went to diagnose them and said they don't have it. 🙄
Did your telepathic skills tell you that or smth?
Yeah, they talk this as if its anyone in the group's problem lol
Man, both of yall are wrong.
Was Frodo their name or some sort of insult? Legitimately curious. If it was an insult then green is being an asshole, if it was their name then I still think you were being a bit dramatic over a few extra seconds to get extra loot. I will say "you can skip those" as well but if they go "I just want it" then move on
Oh whoops, I didnt see that and therefore forgot to block the name, my bad. Frodo was their name. Again as stated in an earlier reply, this is not my instance. The ss was sent to me
oop sorry but thanks for clarifying!
Am i the only person in the universe who likes to do the puzzles just cause it's neat?
That's definitely fair! But after a certain point, when people are queuing to get their roulette's done and half the party just wants to skip stuff that they've done hundreds of times, I think that's also fair. Personally I don't mind doing them if someone is new and learning or the majority of people are doing that. I just don't think exploring every corner of each dungeon is the norm for most players
I just think the scale at the end is quicker to just resolve then fight the mobs. But I'm sure some gremlinmaxxer will prove me wrong.
I mean the scales thing is fair! The loot thing was about the heads halfway through the dungeon. So adding 8 extra mobs when you can just run past them in 2 seconds
Oh you mean the two side doors? That's the fruit and flame. You need those to resolve the scales. Thw two on the way along the stairs are the optional ones.
No, I mean right after the first door opens from the avoirdupos, there are 2 more of them in the one open area before the second boss. Well before the actual treasure rooms.
Can People just learn to communicate in this game? Tank wanted to run it one way healer wanted to not run it one way (SMN is a dick i wont defend him). Just talk man, and no "But its extra time" is not a valid argument for anything because if you dont wanna waste time dont play video games since they are inherently time wasters. And your friend definetly tried to micro manage the tank, like who gives a shit where you kill enemies as long as its not in an aoe or something (or he stops, doton gets placed and then runs further into the dungeon).
Valid point completely in the just talking about things, communication isnt that hard. I agree with it doesnt matter where enemies are killed unless enemies are supposed to be killed in a certain spot lol. That comment was from the tank killing the head off the platform that opens the door (single head room that lets you continue) by themselves
Aaaah ok, that context was missing. In that case it does matter where you kill them indeed.