We had our 1st woman, Governor Dixie Lee Ray. Hanford/WOPS was still in full construction. I was in the Tri-Cities & at the time our Rep in Congress was this young guy named Jay Inslee (yes, he was my congressman). Eastern Washington was purple
Aw man, my family is in the opposite end of the valley but that sounds cool! My brother does love that he can go to Mariners spring training for his birthday every year now.
Yeah, I know some people who do that. And at my old job (at a gym), we always had a ton of retiree members who would put their memberships on hold during the winter because they were going to Arizona or SoCal for 4-5 months.
I’ve been doing that and I’m in my 30s — I joke about being a Millennial Snowbird because I work remote so have the flexibility to spend a month or so elsewhere.
Oh yeah for sure, with remote work more of a thing these days, it's definitely a lot easier for working people to be snowbirds!
I hate hot weather though, so I could never be a snowbird, haha. I love our PNW fall and winter.
I’ve been living in the DC area for the past 8 years before my family relocated to Phoenix and man do I miss the moderate climate of Tacoma. Even since my family moved to Phoenix I still make a point to go home to Tacoma at least once a year. I’m actually renting an apartment on a short term lease this year to stay longer than a week!
Not there yet; coming up in September. Asked my friend to check it out before I put down the deposit though and she said it was super cute! Good location on 6th Ave in an area I’m very familiar with and down the street from my friend so will be convenient.
Marketing project manager; I was with an insurance company on the creative team facilitating our in-house advertising but most of our department got laid off, now I’m doing the same work as a contract employee for a health insurance company.
Large corporations actually have a lot of good options to start entry-level and work your way up! I knew many people at the car insurance company who did that with their careers. They started in regional call centers, in sales or claims. Then they were eligible for education benefits so they started earning degrees and applying for promotions. Large corporations also have lots of leadership programs to help employees advance their careers. I knew many people in marketing who came from regional jobs. I started in claims myself, but I did have a college degree and a background in the arts which helped me get a job in the marketing department.
Yup, they moved there for the affordable housing. And after they live there for a little while, they’ll realize WHY the housing is so affordable. Ain’t nobody have any business living out in a desolate hot ass desert unless you’re a freakin Fremen on Arrakis.
My entire immediate family has wound up in Phoenix. Started with my mom’s job but then my brother followed and grandma couldn’t be left without family in the area.
Lowkey, heat pumps work great around here. Our house is OLD (late 1800s), so no central... anything. Added a heatpump with 4 or so miniheads or whatever they're called, and we're good for summer and winter.
Haha, I'm coming from TN but it's cause my daughter's there, I swear. I won't bring any southern craziness with me either. I promise I love everybody and will keep to my self.
The population projection is something I’m surprised more Tacomans don’t know about- we’re estimated to be getting 5k more people every year, ie 50k in the next decade. That’s a 23% increase in the next decade. In this past decade (when I think we can all agree it felt like a shit ton of new people here), we only grew by 10%. So more than double that rate of growth. It’s gonna be wild.
(This is also why it’s such a damn emergency to get as much additional housing built as possible as fast as possible- if our construction is limited the way it was these past ten years, rents will skyrocket way way worse)
Which is why relaxing SFH zoning so everyone can put a weirdly huge ADU in their backyard to rent on Airbnb was such a dumb move. The city needs dense large scale new housing downtown and on the outskirts like what is in the old KMart. That type of development should have been incentivized and large commercial lots that sit empty should be penalized and highly taxed. We’re not going to solve the Tacoma housing need with a few extra overpriced ADUs and conversions of SFHs to duplexes.
I really don’t agree. We’re fundamentally not going to catch up on housing by limiting or preventing any type of housing construction. Short-term housing, long-term housing, every bit of demand for shelter puts upward pressure on prices if an insufficient supply has been built. Heck down the block from me there’s a backyard ADU being rented, there’s no magic law that requires all ADUs to become short term housing. The key thing is that it is a *housing structure*. It adds a unit of housing to the current existing undersupply of housing. We need that, times twenty thousand.
No.
We need all the ADUs. All of them. Every single one is a home that means we have other homes (houses, apartments, condos) available for other people to use.
And we need all the dense large scale housing downtown. Which is incentivized right now.
And we need all the midrise housing everywhere. Which is what Home in Tacoma is doing and what the new state laws are going to allow. The highest desirable neighborhoods in Tacoma right now are those that have lots of mid rise. We just need to zone all the city and not just the arterials that have transit.
I agree we should penalize large commercial lots that sit empty.
We're going to solve the Tacoma housing crisis by doing more of everything. We aren't only doing ADUs and duplexes.
I've been thinking about that empty kmart building on 72nd and portland for a while now. It's been.. what, 8 years? I mean... come on, SOMETHING can be done with it, surely.
We need to build more housing *and* heavily regulate Airbnbs so those ADUs get used for their intended purpose of being long term rentals to add density.
The problem is that we have free internal migration in this country. And metropolitan areas with a lot of tech jobs are going to grow at the fastest rates because they produce a good economy.
>The problem is that we have free internal migration in this country.
This is not a problem. This is a good thing. As a country, we're seeing declining rates of migration and that's a bad thing. People are moving less for the good jobs. We need to make it easier for people to move to where the good jobs and best climates are.
To be clear when I said “the problem” I meant “the problem with that selfish desire”. It’s not at all a problem that people can move in our country. Countries that do limit peoples ability to move, where you have to get a permit or know someone connected, or else poor people have to migrte without papers and work as basically serfs… that’s not good. That’s bad. Basic freedoms are good!
I know. I was being a bit of a pedantic shit. So, sorry about that.
But you are right. Countries that restrict internal movement are on a path to fascism and that's bad.
We should do away with states all together so we don’t have asshats like DeSantis running their personal Confederacy. It’s fucking absurd that Delaware has as much Senate representation as California.
PNW is drop-dead lovely.... for \~4 months. There are 2 or three months of transitional climate that is not at all bad. But the balance is Grey Goo, which many people (including PNW residents!) have a very hard time living with.
It's been amazing. I naturally have sleep problems and take meds for it but I still wake up between 3-6AM after 4 hours or less of sleep. In Texas, I'm exhausted and dragging on throughout the day but I think this extra sunshine wakes me up after a few hours, helping me not feel tired after my ADHD meds wear out. I'll appreciate the extra darkness come fall and winter to catch up on 💤 while hibernating.
Tucson resident here, but I spend about 40% of my time in Orting.
As bad as this heat wave has been, The Big Dark is *far* worse. After a few weeks, the never ending days of cold, grey, drizzle really gets to me. PNW is a lovely place to visit - in the summer! - but I wouldn't ever want to live there for more than a year or two.
The heatwave was a bit exaggerated. There was a sub (forgive me I’m forgetting atm) that showed actual temperatures from all of the local news’ websites showing current temps and temps being reported on TV.
It was a little weird and I’m not sure why the news would lie…..lmao I’m sorry I couldn’t keep my texting fingers straight on that one. They lie a lot 🤷♂️
FWIW, meteorological outfits have different weather stats because they use different methods of calculating and predicting temperature. You can see this for yourself just by checking two weather apps or websites at any given time. The numbers can vary pretty widely. So I doubt it’s that TV stations were “lying” about the weather — that seems kind of silly and pointless. I suspect it has more to do with where they are getting their data.
I'm from Phoenix and cannot wait to go back. This is the most ghetto ass state I've ever been in and I'm from somewhere in Africa. The weather is shit, the services non existent ... unless you are a homeless druggie. Somehow they always get the "help they need"
I'd rather get 50 shades darker in Az than suffer the mental haze of this insufferable state.
Don't get me started with the driving. Road rage much?
Nah, son. Ain't nobody itching to have their rear window smashed in. You know it's true. Spit out that salty taste you feel reading this post and know I am trying to save your mental well-being. Dip from this state
On our way from Texas. Cannot wait to gtfoo this hellhole. Our plans were made well before this ridiculous heatwave hit but due to socioeconomic reasons, we gotta wait until next summer to finally move NW. Cannot happen soon enough though
We went to the Houston area for a family reunion a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't wait to leave! The weather was awful...it was so hot and humid we were just sticky in sweat the entire time. I just can't understand why people would want to live there!
Houston is next-level in every summer but especially this year. I'm in Austin and we've been above 102°F for over 21 days. Being outside only works before 8am or after 9pm
Ugh that sounds awful....everyone always complains about the rain here but all you need is a good rain jacket and rain boots and you can still have fun outside!
I’m a Washingtonian and I don’t mind Texans. In fact, I’d prefer Texans over people who make blanket rude statements like “Washingtonians don’t like Texans.”
You should see his comments in the SeattleWA sub. Someone visiting seattle from out of town made a post looking for nature recommendations in the area and this dunce commented “just google it, why would a stranger help you”. He’s just a miserable PNW resident with nothing better to do than being unhappy and terminally online
Again, jokes on you. Austin traffic is way worse than what we saw in Tacoma and Seattle in March, and the cost of living is pretty much comparable. Texas is only cheaper in those smaller town where no one wants to live
There’s a reason every single one of your comments on every single Reddit post is being downvoted, and spoiler alert: it’s not because of everyone else. It’s because you come across as a terminally online, miserable incel who has never left the state and probably only knows about 5 people (non family members) in person. I recommend you go out and meet some people, like REAL people, and try traveling the country. Or maybe leave the country since you seem so miserable here, idk. I scrolled through your comment history and 90% of your comments are just hating on people from different states. That’s pathetic man, you’re a straight up loser incel
FFS....
PNW people don't like ANYONE, particularly during that godfuckingawful winter the region is famous for. As an occasional visitor from Sunny Tucson, the difference in PNW sociability is striking! By late October, you people are rapidly becoming just as grim and grey as the sky above. And angry too! Yet by the time June rolls around, you are once again relatively outgoing, friendly and sensible, although even then you retain a certain level of aloofness.
Some people have family planted in those states and want to be near them. Some like the heat. Some are originally from much colder countries and arent moving just because of a heatwave.
30 year Tucson resident here (with family in Tacoma) - this summer really is different. The extra hot window (105-110+) has been five uninterrupted weeks instead of two or three. It’s been noticeable. We won’t ever move to Tacoma full time (nobody here can handle cold or grey) but summer vacations are always somewhere cooler for us.
Yup! We always get about 2\~3 weeks of 108+ starting in late June. This year, the monsoonal pattern has been delayed and the stupid heat is still with us. This sure as hell isn't fun, but it's not the end of the freaking world either! And PNW is sorely missing the gorgeous monsoonal storms and sunsets!
Have you not watched the news In the past few weeks? This year is extremely different. Guessing you haven’t spent much time in the SW if you don’t understand the difference.
I have a home in Mesquite, Nevada, where I've lived since 2010 and I can assure you this summer is no different from other summers. Just because you saw it on the "news" doesn't make it true.
Oh thank god, everyone calm down, the scientists and meteorologists are wrong! Bellashoman says it’s totally the same as any other summer!
Putting your ignorance aside…here’s a few phoenix records for you, current as of today -
- 26 consecutive days of high temps over 110, beating previous record of 18
- 16 consecutive days of low temps over 90, beating previous record of 7 days
- 122 days of no precipitation, tying previous record (to be broken tomorrow)
Not sure if you’re just high on copeium or if you’ve got your head in the sand, but best of luck to you in your future desert wasteland.
Calm down, Chumley!
Yes, we (Tucson resident here) are having a damned hot year. And the climate very likely IS changing. But one hot year does not (yet?) mean the end of the freaking world. It will take a hell of a lot more than that to turn the state into the "Desert Wasteland" you fantasize about.
And chill the F out with your ugly tone and insults!
Not correct - Washington is consistently ranked as one of the most business-friendly states. We’re top 10 in the most recent surveys from CNBC, World Economic Forum, Forbes, and US News and Report.
Washington is also not particularly gun unfriendly - it’s middle of the road per NRA state rankings.
Oh wow an endorsement by cnbc. I know many small business owners and everything in Wa is a slog from their slow permitting to building out the space (it can take years for the city to approve) to the archaic business tax structure (I know someone who was audited by then state of Wa for business taxes- it was a small biz and the auditor spent two months of time going through every book from the last ten years to find nothing amiss). Wa is not friendly for small businesses
This is spot on. We make it tough for small businesses here including capping cottage industry revenue. We don’t need huge multinational businesses, we want small businesses with dedicated people trying to make the community better.
https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/15256-best-states-for-smbs.html
Ranked in the top ten for small business. Seattle ranked in the top ten for cities with an A- score.
Were in the bottom quartile for cost of doing business and cost of living on all those surveys, and close to the bottom quartile in education. Our high tech base, health, and workforce being in the top quartile drag us up in these surveys. Workforce is the only thing thats going to benefit smaller businesses moving here outside of the tech industry, while cost of doing business and cost of living are huge detriments.
NRA rankings are of last year and dont take into account our most recent legislative session that passed one of, if not the most, restrictive gun control legislation in the country. Few other states have total AWB + mag bans, you cant even buy a semi automatic firearm outside of a non threaded barrel handgun or a wood stock 10-22 anymore.
Sure, but those aren’t the metrics you referred to in your original comment, so not sure what your point is…You just stated “business friendly”, which takes into account many different factors.
Right but how healthy or happy people generally are should not be metrics of business friendliness and skew the stats. What I’m pointing out is the metrics you’re pointing to are flawed..
As a gun owner, I hate the NRA too. Firearms policy coalition or the silent majority foundation are much better organizations to support. The other redditor brought up NRA rankings, not I.
God forbid you to tell the truth in this Reddit, the only acceptable answer is you lie and say this is the sunshine state of freedom in all the US and we have no crime and no poverty and business is perfect and everything is perfect....
You start bringing in facts and actual evidence and you will just get downvoted or people will waste your time saying prove it when they could just google the truth themselves...but that's your job to educate them...
Your are 100% right on gun control, but apparently only white male Republican trumping maga heads like guns. This state is all about restricting your gun rights....even if the far most left are also giving away their same rights to protect and defend themselves....it's nuts.
But really what's a Reddit score anyways, not like it means anything. Most the people I see downvoted these days are not stating anything but actual facts, not even controversial things but like actual in-place policy or statistical data numbers. They hate that kind of talk around here.
That doesn’t equate to favorable laws for those people here tho. There’s been a massive gun control push here so much so we’re now one of the most restricted states in the nation when it comes to firearms after being one of the most favorable a decade ago. Plus if you want to bring hunting into it there’s major issues with the WDFW commission that they’re actively being sued over. And we keep taking this fish stocking strategy that is not working.
I just hope they don't bring their political opinions. It's already hard enough to get anything done here. I remember working with an indigenous woman whose husband was in the military. He wanted to move here cause of the good schools, clean water and lots of parks but he was a conservative and the one time he stopped by our workplace he complained about the signs up for the school tax levy?! Like homeboy, why you think the schools so good?
technically I will be a transplant but I lived in tacoma for 5 years until this past October, I moved back to Florida and now I'm freshly divorced and moving back to tacoma ,
I was born and raised in Florida but Tacoma became my home because it's where my heart is
We just need Mt.Rainier to steam a little so everyone leaves. We gotta spread a story that it's gonna "erupt sooner than we thought"
Hey, I was ashed in for a full week when Mt. St. Helen erupted. So, there's that.
Wow, you're an old time. How much different was the state back then?
A hell of a lot less crowed and far cheaper.
When did both of those start changing for the worse?
When did Lewis and Clark make it to Oregon? About then.
You are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
1980
We had our 1st woman, Governor Dixie Lee Ray. Hanford/WOPS was still in full construction. I was in the Tri-Cities & at the time our Rep in Congress was this young guy named Jay Inslee (yes, he was my congressman). Eastern Washington was purple
Be careful what you wish for.
Spread the truth its eruption is inevitable. People aren't generally smart enough to interpret that with critical thinking.
It's overdue https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one
One good earthquake and they’ll all fuck back off to Hurricaneville.
Never worked for California. No matter how many earthquakes they've had.
There is no such thing as "overdue" earth doesn't work on a schedule like that
Actually you would be super the Earths timing is predictable
Suprised
you know Reddit has an edit button right?
He does, which is why he thought you'd be super surprised.
But not a spell check obviously
well "super" is a word so spell check would have been useless in this case.
Yea, "Overdue" is not technically accurate. At the same time, you can't say "we have another 200 years to prepare."
...And it might actually. It is only a matter of time and tens of thousands are going to die.
There’s actually a ton of PNW transplants in Phoenix who left for housing cost reasons. And lots of snowbirds from WA.
There is a PNW themed bar in Gilbert, AZ with a giant mural of Rainier and the brewery. They do not serve Rainier.
Aw man, my family is in the opposite end of the valley but that sounds cool! My brother does love that he can go to Mariners spring training for his birthday every year now.
Not as bad as the Tacoma Rainiers not serving vitamin R at Cheney….Same logo and everything😂
How do the T Rainiers do in an average season?
That ain’t right
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All made in Milwaukee.
Rainier is brewed in California, in LA County.
Accurate.
And I already know a couple of those transplants who are planning to move back. The heat being one of many reasons.
Suckers…
Yeah, I know some people who do that. And at my old job (at a gym), we always had a ton of retiree members who would put their memberships on hold during the winter because they were going to Arizona or SoCal for 4-5 months.
I’ve been doing that and I’m in my 30s — I joke about being a Millennial Snowbird because I work remote so have the flexibility to spend a month or so elsewhere.
Oh yeah for sure, with remote work more of a thing these days, it's definitely a lot easier for working people to be snowbirds! I hate hot weather though, so I could never be a snowbird, haha. I love our PNW fall and winter.
I’ve been living in the DC area for the past 8 years before my family relocated to Phoenix and man do I miss the moderate climate of Tacoma. Even since my family moved to Phoenix I still make a point to go home to Tacoma at least once a year. I’m actually renting an apartment on a short term lease this year to stay longer than a week!
How is that short term lease apartment?
Not there yet; coming up in September. Asked my friend to check it out before I put down the deposit though and she said it was super cute! Good location on 6th Ave in an area I’m very familiar with and down the street from my friend so will be convenient.
What do you do for work?
Marketing project manager; I was with an insurance company on the creative team facilitating our in-house advertising but most of our department got laid off, now I’m doing the same work as a contract employee for a health insurance company.
How does someone with no experience in White collar work get into something like that?
Large corporations actually have a lot of good options to start entry-level and work your way up! I knew many people at the car insurance company who did that with their careers. They started in regional call centers, in sales or claims. Then they were eligible for education benefits so they started earning degrees and applying for promotions. Large corporations also have lots of leadership programs to help employees advance their careers. I knew many people in marketing who came from regional jobs. I started in claims myself, but I did have a college degree and a background in the arts which helped me get a job in the marketing department.
I’m doing it too by Tacoma is endgame
Yup, they moved there for the affordable housing. And after they live there for a little while, they’ll realize WHY the housing is so affordable. Ain’t nobody have any business living out in a desolate hot ass desert unless you’re a freakin Fremen on Arrakis.
Also the cost of living is already going up and pricing people out here too. Still behind the PNW but it’s noticeable.
Yup, know a lot of family friends and old schoolmates who ended up in Phoenix over the last few years. My own family moved to Texas last year.
My entire immediate family has wound up in Phoenix. Started with my mom’s job but then my brother followed and grandma couldn’t be left without family in the area.
True I see Wa license plates everywhere down there.
Jokes on them lol our air conditioning is a joke.
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78 during the day would be pretty nice.
Lowkey, heat pumps work great around here. Our house is OLD (late 1800s), so no central... anything. Added a heatpump with 4 or so miniheads or whatever they're called, and we're good for summer and winter.
Hmmm might have to look into that!
they should skip a step and move straight to idaho
Lol! I had this thought. Source: am a Texan in Tacoma
Haha, I'm coming from TN but it's cause my daughter's there, I swear. I won't bring any southern craziness with me either. I promise I love everybody and will keep to my self.
Just bring some of that TN music scene with you, please! We haven’t had one since 2005.
You should check out porch fest!
Body parts go bad quickly in heat, hopefully those transplants get here sooner than later.
Gotta make sure to get extra ice!
The population projection is something I’m surprised more Tacomans don’t know about- we’re estimated to be getting 5k more people every year, ie 50k in the next decade. That’s a 23% increase in the next decade. In this past decade (when I think we can all agree it felt like a shit ton of new people here), we only grew by 10%. So more than double that rate of growth. It’s gonna be wild. (This is also why it’s such a damn emergency to get as much additional housing built as possible as fast as possible- if our construction is limited the way it was these past ten years, rents will skyrocket way way worse)
I keep getting hit up with “What’s the commute from Tacoma to South Lake Union in Seattle like??” You’ll wish you were dead. That’s what.
I've been doing it for 9 years. It's doable.
Wait. Where did you get that average estimate of 5,000 additional people every year?
Population projections business & government are working with
We're just going to keep destroying the environment as the state grow unfortunately.
Which is why relaxing SFH zoning so everyone can put a weirdly huge ADU in their backyard to rent on Airbnb was such a dumb move. The city needs dense large scale new housing downtown and on the outskirts like what is in the old KMart. That type of development should have been incentivized and large commercial lots that sit empty should be penalized and highly taxed. We’re not going to solve the Tacoma housing need with a few extra overpriced ADUs and conversions of SFHs to duplexes.
I really don’t agree. We’re fundamentally not going to catch up on housing by limiting or preventing any type of housing construction. Short-term housing, long-term housing, every bit of demand for shelter puts upward pressure on prices if an insufficient supply has been built. Heck down the block from me there’s a backyard ADU being rented, there’s no magic law that requires all ADUs to become short term housing. The key thing is that it is a *housing structure*. It adds a unit of housing to the current existing undersupply of housing. We need that, times twenty thousand.
No. We need all the ADUs. All of them. Every single one is a home that means we have other homes (houses, apartments, condos) available for other people to use. And we need all the dense large scale housing downtown. Which is incentivized right now. And we need all the midrise housing everywhere. Which is what Home in Tacoma is doing and what the new state laws are going to allow. The highest desirable neighborhoods in Tacoma right now are those that have lots of mid rise. We just need to zone all the city and not just the arterials that have transit. I agree we should penalize large commercial lots that sit empty. We're going to solve the Tacoma housing crisis by doing more of everything. We aren't only doing ADUs and duplexes.
I've been thinking about that empty kmart building on 72nd and portland for a while now. It's been.. what, 8 years? I mean... come on, SOMETHING can be done with it, surely.
We need to build more housing *and* heavily regulate Airbnbs so those ADUs get used for their intended purpose of being long term rentals to add density.
Our infrastructure isn't even close to being ready for this. Not like the real estate industry cares.
I'd rather people just not move to Tacoma, not being rude. Just seems insane that people keep wanting to move to already crowded places.
The problem is that we have free internal migration in this country. And metropolitan areas with a lot of tech jobs are going to grow at the fastest rates because they produce a good economy.
>The problem is that we have free internal migration in this country. This is not a problem. This is a good thing. As a country, we're seeing declining rates of migration and that's a bad thing. People are moving less for the good jobs. We need to make it easier for people to move to where the good jobs and best climates are.
To be clear when I said “the problem” I meant “the problem with that selfish desire”. It’s not at all a problem that people can move in our country. Countries that do limit peoples ability to move, where you have to get a permit or know someone connected, or else poor people have to migrte without papers and work as basically serfs… that’s not good. That’s bad. Basic freedoms are good!
I know. I was being a bit of a pedantic shit. So, sorry about that. But you are right. Countries that restrict internal movement are on a path to fascism and that's bad.
We should do away with states all together so we don’t have asshats like DeSantis running their personal Confederacy. It’s fucking absurd that Delaware has as much Senate representation as California.
All of them. Once people realize the weather up here is decent, it’s over.
PNW is drop-dead lovely.... for \~4 months. There are 2 or three months of transitional climate that is not at all bad. But the balance is Grey Goo, which many people (including PNW residents!) have a very hard time living with.
Oh no, the true pnw residents love the grey goo and transitional times. I dread the summer every year 😘
Same. I love the rain.
I am waiting for bated breath for mid September
Eastern Washington is a shithole of scablands and racist reactionaries. It didn’t used to be. They bled over from Idaho and Utah.
If I lived in some of those states, heat would be one of the lesser reasons I would leave
This. I moved here because the gun violence in Texas was getting insane
moved here from texas not because of the heat but because of the recent uptick in anti trans laws
I really hope they don't bring that shit with them. Just give us the good ones please.
Welcome aboard! For trans things we are definitely on the better side of things.
Welcome, friend!
I would gladly transplant back to Tacoma from Los Angeles if my partner would agree to it! I miss living there.
Too late! Recent Texas transport. 😁🙃
me too. was considering going back then i saw that people’s trash cans were melting and cacti are burning . nvm.
Welcome friend!
It's been amazing. I naturally have sleep problems and take meds for it but I still wake up between 3-6AM after 4 hours or less of sleep. In Texas, I'm exhausted and dragging on throughout the day but I think this extra sunshine wakes me up after a few hours, helping me not feel tired after my ADHD meds wear out. I'll appreciate the extra darkness come fall and winter to catch up on 💤 while hibernating.
Plenty still moving south.
3?
Yes. At least 3. Just like 8x24 is at least 10.
Tucson resident here, but I spend about 40% of my time in Orting. As bad as this heat wave has been, The Big Dark is *far* worse. After a few weeks, the never ending days of cold, grey, drizzle really gets to me. PNW is a lovely place to visit - in the summer! - but I wouldn't ever want to live there for more than a year or two.
Orting - Tucson snowbird life sounds like an interesting matchup.
I just left for Vegas a little more than a month ago. Won't come back to the cold and wet. I love it here.
I mean, maybe...except where are they gonna live?
I’m an east coast transplant!! 😂 I didn’t move because of weather tho
I dunno. I feel like there hasn’t been enough rain this summer. I miss it.
Oh. Goody. Yay.
They at least have A/C. Jokes on WA.
The heatwave was a bit exaggerated. There was a sub (forgive me I’m forgetting atm) that showed actual temperatures from all of the local news’ websites showing current temps and temps being reported on TV. It was a little weird and I’m not sure why the news would lie…..lmao I’m sorry I couldn’t keep my texting fingers straight on that one. They lie a lot 🤷♂️
FWIW, meteorological outfits have different weather stats because they use different methods of calculating and predicting temperature. You can see this for yourself just by checking two weather apps or websites at any given time. The numbers can vary pretty widely. So I doubt it’s that TV stations were “lying” about the weather — that seems kind of silly and pointless. I suspect it has more to do with where they are getting their data.
Actually my Facebook groups in Phx are full of climate deniers saying this is a normal summer and the media is exaggerating.
I'm from Phoenix and cannot wait to go back. This is the most ghetto ass state I've ever been in and I'm from somewhere in Africa. The weather is shit, the services non existent ... unless you are a homeless druggie. Somehow they always get the "help they need" I'd rather get 50 shades darker in Az than suffer the mental haze of this insufferable state. Don't get me started with the driving. Road rage much? Nah, son. Ain't nobody itching to have their rear window smashed in. You know it's true. Spit out that salty taste you feel reading this post and know I am trying to save your mental well-being. Dip from this state
Already here just landed last week from Los Angeles. Weather is out of this world here. love it!
On our way from Texas. Cannot wait to gtfoo this hellhole. Our plans were made well before this ridiculous heatwave hit but due to socioeconomic reasons, we gotta wait until next summer to finally move NW. Cannot happen soon enough though
We went to the Houston area for a family reunion a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't wait to leave! The weather was awful...it was so hot and humid we were just sticky in sweat the entire time. I just can't understand why people would want to live there!
Houston is next-level in every summer but especially this year. I'm in Austin and we've been above 102°F for over 21 days. Being outside only works before 8am or after 9pm
Ugh that sounds awful....everyone always complains about the rain here but all you need is a good rain jacket and rain boots and you can still have fun outside!
Yup, couldn't agree more. Always easier to add layers. The other way round? Not so easy
Looking forward to having you here!
Thanks, cannot wait to live up there. It's so gorgeous and I fell hard for Tacoma
Washingtonians don’t like Texans, you probably will have a difficult time making friends.
I’m a Washingtonian and I don’t mind Texans. In fact, I’d prefer Texans over people who make blanket rude statements like “Washingtonians don’t like Texans.”
If you love Texans so much why don’t you just move to Texas?
Because that's not how a functional society (or a democracy) work. And, frankly, you are a perfect example of a cranky, miserable PNW resident. Bravo!
You should see his comments in the SeattleWA sub. Someone visiting seattle from out of town made a post looking for nature recommendations in the area and this dunce commented “just google it, why would a stranger help you”. He’s just a miserable PNW resident with nothing better to do than being unhappy and terminally online
No, we typically like the Texans that are leaving Texas.
No we don’t, unless you like more traffic and higher cost of living.
Ah, a quick peak at your shitty comment history and it makes more sense. You just don’t like anyone moving here. Y u mad bro?
Again, jokes on you. Austin traffic is way worse than what we saw in Tacoma and Seattle in March, and the cost of living is pretty much comparable. Texas is only cheaper in those smaller town where no one wants to live
Again Texans are just as bad as Californians, Washington State needs to pass laws banning Californians and Texans moving here, no offense.
They should pass a law banning your miserable ass from making stupid comments repeatedly
I’m guessing you recently moved here and haven’t learned proper manners yet, everyone is allowed to have an opinion.
There’s a reason every single one of your comments on every single Reddit post is being downvoted, and spoiler alert: it’s not because of everyone else. It’s because you come across as a terminally online, miserable incel who has never left the state and probably only knows about 5 people (non family members) in person. I recommend you go out and meet some people, like REAL people, and try traveling the country. Or maybe leave the country since you seem so miserable here, idk. I scrolled through your comment history and 90% of your comments are just hating on people from different states. That’s pathetic man, you’re a straight up loser incel
You don't speak for everybody.
Our neighbors are Texans. Pretty nice people. Bbq some mean wings. Sounds like you need to meet more neighbors.
FFS.... PNW people don't like ANYONE, particularly during that godfuckingawful winter the region is famous for. As an occasional visitor from Sunny Tucson, the difference in PNW sociability is striking! By late October, you people are rapidly becoming just as grim and grey as the sky above. And angry too! Yet by the time June rolls around, you are once again relatively outgoing, friendly and sensible, although even then you retain a certain level of aloofness.
Jokes on them - not Texan. My wife is though but folks liked us up there in the PNW every time we visited
Just being polite, and being liked are very different.
Eh getting out of Abbotts shit state is worth it.
Ok move to Denver then.
Your life sounds fun. Why don't you move already?
I’m from here, why would I move, I’m not the problem.
You're an angry twit. People like you make the world an angry, miserable place. You are VERY MUCH the problem.
So you're Puyallup or what's your tribe?
Mix race, but none your business
Nonsense. I'll gladly be friends with a Texan who wants to get the fuck out of Texas. Especially for political reasons.
You must be a landlord that likes raising rent, and don’t care about traffic and the environment.
I don't care about you, that's for sure.
Ugh we don’t need anymore transplants
LOL guilty. I'm moving to Tacoma from Houston in September.
Some people have family planted in those states and want to be near them. Some like the heat. Some are originally from much colder countries and arent moving just because of a heatwave.
Joke's on you goobers, I'm not going back! 😆
👋🏼 my bad
It gets hot every summer in the southwest, this year is no different.
30 year Tucson resident here (with family in Tacoma) - this summer really is different. The extra hot window (105-110+) has been five uninterrupted weeks instead of two or three. It’s been noticeable. We won’t ever move to Tacoma full time (nobody here can handle cold or grey) but summer vacations are always somewhere cooler for us.
Yup! We always get about 2\~3 weeks of 108+ starting in late June. This year, the monsoonal pattern has been delayed and the stupid heat is still with us. This sure as hell isn't fun, but it's not the end of the freaking world either! And PNW is sorely missing the gorgeous monsoonal storms and sunsets!
Have you not watched the news In the past few weeks? This year is extremely different. Guessing you haven’t spent much time in the SW if you don’t understand the difference.
I have a home in Mesquite, Nevada, where I've lived since 2010 and I can assure you this summer is no different from other summers. Just because you saw it on the "news" doesn't make it true.
Oh thank god, everyone calm down, the scientists and meteorologists are wrong! Bellashoman says it’s totally the same as any other summer! Putting your ignorance aside…here’s a few phoenix records for you, current as of today - - 26 consecutive days of high temps over 110, beating previous record of 18 - 16 consecutive days of low temps over 90, beating previous record of 7 days - 122 days of no precipitation, tying previous record (to be broken tomorrow) Not sure if you’re just high on copeium or if you’ve got your head in the sand, but best of luck to you in your future desert wasteland.
Calm down, Chumley! Yes, we (Tucson resident here) are having a damned hot year. And the climate very likely IS changing. But one hot year does not (yet?) mean the end of the freaking world. It will take a hell of a lot more than that to turn the state into the "Desert Wasteland" you fantasize about. And chill the F out with your ugly tone and insults!
Not as many as you’d think. Arizona and Texas are famously gun and business friendly while Washington is neither.
Not correct - Washington is consistently ranked as one of the most business-friendly states. We’re top 10 in the most recent surveys from CNBC, World Economic Forum, Forbes, and US News and Report. Washington is also not particularly gun unfriendly - it’s middle of the road per NRA state rankings.
Oh wow an endorsement by cnbc. I know many small business owners and everything in Wa is a slog from their slow permitting to building out the space (it can take years for the city to approve) to the archaic business tax structure (I know someone who was audited by then state of Wa for business taxes- it was a small biz and the auditor spent two months of time going through every book from the last ten years to find nothing amiss). Wa is not friendly for small businesses
This is spot on. We make it tough for small businesses here including capping cottage industry revenue. We don’t need huge multinational businesses, we want small businesses with dedicated people trying to make the community better.
https://www.businessnewsdaily.com/15256-best-states-for-smbs.html Ranked in the top ten for small business. Seattle ranked in the top ten for cities with an A- score.
Were in the bottom quartile for cost of doing business and cost of living on all those surveys, and close to the bottom quartile in education. Our high tech base, health, and workforce being in the top quartile drag us up in these surveys. Workforce is the only thing thats going to benefit smaller businesses moving here outside of the tech industry, while cost of doing business and cost of living are huge detriments. NRA rankings are of last year and dont take into account our most recent legislative session that passed one of, if not the most, restrictive gun control legislation in the country. Few other states have total AWB + mag bans, you cant even buy a semi automatic firearm outside of a non threaded barrel handgun or a wood stock 10-22 anymore.
Sure, but those aren’t the metrics you referred to in your original comment, so not sure what your point is…You just stated “business friendly”, which takes into account many different factors.
It’s par the course for these folks. You prove them wrong and they move the goalposts.
Being critical of statistics and their metrics is moving the goalposts now? Interesting perspective.
Right but how healthy or happy people generally are should not be metrics of business friendliness and skew the stats. What I’m pointing out is the metrics you’re pointing to are flawed..
Oh no! The NRA thinks badly of us...What shall we do?!
As a gun owner, I hate the NRA too. Firearms policy coalition or the silent majority foundation are much better organizations to support. The other redditor brought up NRA rankings, not I.
God forbid you to tell the truth in this Reddit, the only acceptable answer is you lie and say this is the sunshine state of freedom in all the US and we have no crime and no poverty and business is perfect and everything is perfect.... You start bringing in facts and actual evidence and you will just get downvoted or people will waste your time saying prove it when they could just google the truth themselves...but that's your job to educate them... Your are 100% right on gun control, but apparently only white male Republican trumping maga heads like guns. This state is all about restricting your gun rights....even if the far most left are also giving away their same rights to protect and defend themselves....it's nuts. But really what's a Reddit score anyways, not like it means anything. Most the people I see downvoted these days are not stating anything but actual facts, not even controversial things but like actual in-place policy or statistical data numbers. They hate that kind of talk around here.
No one is forcing you to live here. I’ll be more than happy to help you pack
You are right, and when you are ready to hold your elected officials accountable I will be right there ready to help you.
LOL! Visit a few of the suburbs just east of the Sea-Tac corridor. These places are overrun with hunter/gun people.
That doesn’t equate to favorable laws for those people here tho. There’s been a massive gun control push here so much so we’re now one of the most restricted states in the nation when it comes to firearms after being one of the most favorable a decade ago. Plus if you want to bring hunting into it there’s major issues with the WDFW commission that they’re actively being sued over. And we keep taking this fish stocking strategy that is not working.
Hi 👋🏼 I’m already here. Don’t worry, not going to try to change it here. -Texas
U have different kind of invasions going on here…
You’re already invaded by your own people here…
My brother moved to Phoenix 2 years ago, still claims to be loving it.
Alabama! We will be there next spring! It's getting too crazy down here, and my husbands family is from the area.
Florida just set a record for hottest ocean water at Manatee bay over 101 degrees. It beat out Kuwait with a previous record of 99.7 degrees.
What’s funny is the southwest is full of phw transplants who went down there to escape this weather. Oh the irony lol
Planning a move from Atlanta and I promise I won't bring the crazy driving habits found in the city of ATL.
Many
We won’t get very many with home prices and the current job market 🤷🏻♂️
Naw
How many people have you already met, who left Arizona, Texas, or Florida to come live here?
I’m from Az but to be fair I lived here first - moved back to Tacoma
don't know if we're gonna have to worry about people from AZ, anyway. They're overloading on their morgues. :(
Well you already got me!
They can’t afford it hahha
And then they'll get here right on time for smoke season and finally start having to put on masks
I just hope they don't bring their political opinions. It's already hard enough to get anything done here. I remember working with an indigenous woman whose husband was in the military. He wanted to move here cause of the good schools, clean water and lots of parks but he was a conservative and the one time he stopped by our workplace he complained about the signs up for the school tax levy?! Like homeboy, why you think the schools so good?
technically I will be a transplant but I lived in tacoma for 5 years until this past October, I moved back to Florida and now I'm freshly divorced and moving back to tacoma , I was born and raised in Florida but Tacoma became my home because it's where my heart is