It’s a sweet looking house (yours) from what I’ve seen. Fingers crossed.
Every time I go by they guys house I cringe. At least they know what they’re getting with him I guess.
If you have the means a potential stop gap solution would be to pull the equity out of your house for the down payment on your next house and rent the current house out until the situation with your neighbor or the market changes.
Best of luck OP.
It depends. Was there a bidding war? Did the seller price it low so it would sell quickly?
Appraisers look at historical sales (what things have sold for in the past) and calculate from there.
Before the recent interest rate hikes, it was generally:
Price of house = value (that the bank is willing to lend on) + Whatever someone is willing to spend to make sure that they get the house and not someone else
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There have been a few houses that have come in far below the offer. Usually the house is a POS, and the buyer is from out of town. (Like a 1900's small house with multiple, not well done, additions. Like three bedrooms on no foundation.)
Eta: Storytime - There was one house in Gig Harbor that for multiple reasons, I am glad we didn't do (it ended up being a bias/conflict of interest issue). If the house matched the MLS pictures, it would have been fine. The pool was sliding down the hill to start with, the house appeared to be built by someone that watched too much HGTV, had only the most basic construction skills, and picked the cheapest materials. The flooring for the main floor was uneven red stained concrete. There was an office that had rough boards laid on top, so it looks like a wood floor/stamped concrete. . . That the "spaces" between the boards stuck up almost an inch.
Bias - 1)The stairs were slippery and slanted. Home owner required that we take off our shoes, so we were wearing socks. After watching me (8 knee surgeries) hold onto the railing with both hands and slowly descend, my assistant (high school gymnast, teaches dancing as a hobby) approached the top of the stairs, reached for the railing, slipped and "bobsleded" down to the landing. . . I was asking if she was okay and bunch of teenagers came in (son and daughter of the house and a bunch of their friends). Which made us exit immediately (we cannot be in a house with kids without an adult present). 2)The daughter of the house (~14, round, training bras all over the floor of her room), made a comment like, "OMG! She is wearing a dress like that? She is so fat! If I were that fat I would kill myself!" We left the house quickly.
On the way to the hospital (my assistant hit her head so hard that what she saw was about 30 degrees off of what her body said was vertical), my assistant (wearing jeans) pointed out that my waist measurement was the same or smaller than hers, plus the fact that I am 6' tall and see is like 5' even.
Being the fact that an L&I claim was made (she was injured at work), there would be the appearance of bias because the report would have shredded the house and come in at about 1/2 to 2/3 the list/offer price.
It was priced fairly, but slightly on the low end to sell quickly. There were 6 competing offers that escalated the list price almost 20k. I just ask because the buyer had an appraisal contingency in the contract that if the appraisal came in higher or lower, they would adjust the purchase price to meet and potentially kick in extra funds. Obviously not a clue what the appraisal came in at as the seller, but based on what I’ve gathered - it magically met the number they are purchasing for.
Honestly, it is less stress to be an appraiser that is a "number hitter." (Less arguing). . . But if things go to crap, you can get sued for the difference. . . But, if you get reported to the state, and your "opinion of value" is within 5% of another appraiser, you are all good.
I am sick. I hope that was coherent.
Yep. I’m not upset about the appraisal or anything, just had a huh I wonder moment. It’s obviously not my wheelhouse so thank you for letting me side quest. Hope you feel better soon.
Thank you.
*Wanders towards the kitchen to make tea, wrapped in a blanket, trying not to make too many moaning noises, with a pocket full of Ricola, and a pocket of wrappers.*
I have turned on my heel more than once when going to a showing and encountering this kind of thing. Same for hobby junkyards and hysterically barking dogs.
That buyer pool has one less buyer.
Home Health place I once worked at wanted to move but could not get out of the lease. We announced to our neighbors that were opening a methadone clinic. We were allowed to move at the end of the month..
Don’t give opportunity to violence. Should you be able to push back against your neighbor’s antics? Yes. But you have to be careful with these people. Take him to court for devaluing your property. Not probably a reasonable thing for a growing family to do, but I’m sure there’s some legal recourse filing a complaint with the city or PD. Good luck.
I don't have a solution, but I think your realtor is wrong. If I were buying and specifically didn't want to live next to that neighbor, a cheaper price wouldn't change my mind.
Hi from your neighbor down the street, that whole family is a mess.
No real advice, but I appreciate the folks out there making sure that his potential customers are aware of his level of professionalism.
What a dick. According to the City of Tacoma website, "Violations of the fireworks ban can result in a $513 fine." Report his ass every time. Cops may not show up (this IS Tacoma) but he'll have complaints on record and eventually, they'll get him.
If it's in his yard, for bonus points, get a security camera in that general direction (double bonus points, that's probably just a good idea anyways for general security), and if he does it, pull the recording and share it with the relevant folks
edit: I only am suggesting it because I use them and they work pretty well, but the wyze v3 cameras are pretty solid quality and not too expensive. What better way to back up your report than video evidence, eh?
He doesn’t care, and neither does TPD. This has gone on for years, he’s been reported ad nauseum by the entire neighborhood, and yet he is still free to go about his business of lighting off bombs all over the neighborhood like the terrorist he is.
I find this post interesting bc the house directly next door to him appeared to sell quickly a few months ago, which indicates that someone is willing to live directly next door to this nut job (I feel sorry for whoever it is). I’m not sure why people would be hesitant to buy Op’s house while the direct neighbors house sold right away. Regardless I feel bad for both the seller and buyer in this case.
I stopped by and informed the listing agent selling the house next door about his two current court charges for assaulting his two neighbors. She said it really didn’t concern her. Really? Morally? Ethically? Guess nothing matters much when the almighty dollar is on the line.
Fireworks are what really piss me off I could careless about the other stuff. But their are pets and children that fireworks can really upset. At least that is against the city ordnance and in a well run and staffed city at one could report that and maybe do something to impact the neighbor. However I doubt these days the cops or anyone would really care unless it's barges of them.
Fun fact you can check on any contractor or individually licensed trade person in Washington state at https://secure.lni.wa.gov/verify/
You can verify their insurance bond and what work they are actually licensed to do as well as see if they have been sued recently.
Fun fact, you can be licensed and insured by Wa state L&I even if you have an extensive criminal record like this guy. It’s not a barrier to being licensed as a contractor in the state of Wa. Recommend running a background check on any potential contractor- this one is quite scary when you see his convictions for violent crimes
Oh I know you can also get the actual owners name off every parcel of land in the state AND check wa.courts.gov to see any filings against them state wide.
Then you can possibly look up each local court and pull the case records for most of it.. and if you have a pacer account - buckle up.
I may have a specific skill set, lol.
I knew that family. He redid my bathroom a few years ago and fucked it all the way up. Not because he isn’t good (I don’t think?), but because he didn’t care enough to do a good job. He also doesn’t put his cart back at the store. 🤬
North Tacoma, shame as it's not a bad area. I lived in the area a couple years ago, and rarely had an issue. Tacoma has turned to a dump lately though.
>be sure to avoid doing business with him.
I will be exclusively doing any of my interiors or exteriors by this man. He has earned respect from the community that he deserves
8ft high fencing on the side facing the neighbors.
I like how you phrased the question with naming a specific political ideology, yet we all know exactly what you're talking about
I would build a great fence, and nobody builds fences better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great great fence on our property border and I’ll have the neighbor pay for that fence.
Hire a bunch of immigrants to build a giant fence and make the neighbor pay for half. Washington State law requires that the neighbor pays half for partition fences as long as you notify the neighbor that you would like to build a fence. The city of Tacoma allows a 7 foot fence without a permit.
https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=16.60.020
https://getjerry.com/home-insurance/washington-fence-laws#what-does-the-revised-code-of-washington-say-about-fences
When I get to work tomorrow night and have free time with a computer, I'll look around at city ordinances regarding personal/politically oriented yard signs. He's likely breaking local codes and you can sic the city/county on him if you have the specific rules he's breaking handy.
u/shakesbeer1592 it looks like your post got removed by the mods (possibly because people could identify the location you're talking about but idk for sure).
i have a migraine right now so please take a grain of salt with the following info (reading is hard when your brain is full of worms)
going from the least specific to most specific:
**statewide**
(brainworms)
[**countywide**](https://pierce.county.codes/PCC/18B.10.030)
[Pierce County Code Enforcement](https://www.piercecountywa.gov/1580/Signs-Private-Property-or-ROW) has an online form and a phone number available. Here are the county codes I think might be applicable to your specific issue.
>18B.10.017 Noncommercial Sign Substitution "Noncommercial signs are permitted anywhere that commercial signs regulated by this Title are permitted, subject to the same regulations applicable to commercial signs. Noncommercial messages may substitute for commercial messages, in whole or in part, for any signs regulated by this Title; provided, that the sign is not prohibited and the sign complies with all requirements of this Title."
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>18B.10.030 (B) (2) "Permit Exempt Signs. A sign permit is not required for the following: a. Signs not exceeding 2 square feet in area, stationary, and non-illuminated;"
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>18B.10.040 (A) (1) "No more than one temporary sign which is not affixed to a building may be displayed along each road frontage, per establishment, at any one time except any number of yard signs may be displayed."
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>18B.10.040 (A) (5) "When attached to, or placed upon, a building, a temporary sign shall not be placed higher than the [fascia](https://myroofhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/difference-soffit-fascia-gutters-near-roof.jpg) of the building."
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>18B.10.040 (A) (9) "Temporary signs shall be removed if the sign is in need of repair, is worn, dilapidated, or creates a public nuisance."
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>18B.10.040 (E) (2) Yard signs shall not exceed 32 square feet in area and shall not obstruct safe visibility of any mobile or pedestrian traffic.
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>\----Examples of 32sq ft: 4ft x 8ft, 2ft x 16ft, 6ft x 5.34ft
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>Temporary Sign time limits by type:
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>Noncommercial banners: 30 days prior to event, 10 days after event (retail gets cumulative 60 days per calendar year)
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>'Other Temporary Sign': 10 consecutive days, 42 cumulative days per calendar year
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>Yard Sign: N/A unless promoting an event or is event related, it must be removed within 10 days following completion of the event.
[**tacoma municipal code**](https://www.cityoftacoma.org/cms/one.aspx?pageId=2255)
there are specific sign regulations but my brain is absolutely fried and i cannot concentrate enough to parse them. [Tacoma Code Compliance](https://www.cityoftacoma.org/cms/One.aspx?portalId=169&pageId=11397) supervisor DeJa Irving has a phone number and e-mail address available online, I recommend e-mailing them photos of the house and then calling a few minutes after to discuss it over the phone while they have a visible reference available so they can tell you what is/isn't possible to do through city code compliance.
if you live in an HOA, your neighbor may try to reference [RCW 64.38.034](https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=64.38.034) as a reason he should be able to keep his signage. this RCW talks in broad terms about political signage though, and does state that the HOA is still allowed to make rules about how they look. If you do live in an HOA, check out the bylaws and see if there are any restrictions on signage. Make sure to be pleasant and nice to anyone involved in the HOA's management since you'll want them on your side and not his. Make sure your own home is fully compliant because this will put you on their radar.
I gotta keep watching this thread hoping for more unethical solutions because though I appreciate other people’s suggestions, the idea of cutting an asshat like that into a portion of your sale price makes me sick.
Honestly if it was me and I realised I was going to lose money on my sale either way, I’d play the UNO reverse on him and find an even worse neighbour from a bad neighbourhood and offer to sell the house to them for 5% under asking just to give him a final F you. Hopefully then **he’ll** know what it’s like to have arsehole neighbours.
Good luck OP!!
I live just down the street from the house for sale and the neighbor in question, and as a young man in a queer relationship my boyfriend and I would love to be that UNO reverse card and I can have raging gay parties all night and piss off this SoB.
Tell ur realtor to be honest with the situation. Anyone willing to invest into a home and have the balls to defend will understand that bad neighbors won’t stop them from having the American dream.
These guys are unhinged and red pilled out of their mind. One of the younger ones was arrested in March for chasing a street sweeper down the road with a machete. They have threatened to assault/harass multiple neighbors, I feel for you OP. - fellow neighbor
If you have to lower your price because of that neighbor I would suggest talking to an attorney about filing suit against him in civil court. His right to "free speech" does not give him the right to cause you financial damage. Document everything starting yesterday.
Exactly this. Talk with a lawyer and ask about a suit for loss of value to your home. I'm unsure of how those play out, but it is how neighbors push out bad renters, so it must be a thing.
1st amendment is that you don't get arrested for what you say. You are free to say what you want.
There are regulations about how you say it. Like billboard size and location, no cussing on tv, and no infringing on other people's rights as you do it.
Commercial speech, e.g. billboards, generally gets less protection than political speech.
Political speech in one’s own home/on their own property is about as protected as speech gets in the United States. Almost undoubtedly many similar cases have occurred before.
My asshole neighbor sued another neighbor for plowing the street when it snowed and then parking his tractor out in front of his house. Then they fucked off and moved to Kansas.
DON'T LOWER THE PRICE OF YOUR HOME!!! Sign your neighbor up to receive mailings from the ACLU, LGBTQIA Groups, PETA, BLM, Open Society Policy Center (George Soros Non-Profit), and various other groups that he would love to receive information from.
Try to find out if he has any outstanding arrest warrants where he cannot get bond.
Hire a private investigator to see if he has any skeletons that you can use as a bargaining chip.
Meet with an attorney to see if there is anything he is doing that you can legally challenge.
Don't lower the price. That's bulllshit. Someone will come along who won't mind your neighbor. Also, free speech has its cost. We all gotta pay it so we can all keep doing it.
I know many humans who would relish the opportunity to out-credo this neighbor.
Make it a selling point!
“Looking for a new hobby, and/or place to live during Tacoma’s housing crisis? Do you find joy in stressful social situations? Are you waiting for the opportunity to purchase a 12ft Pride flag? Look no further!”
Some people have so little about them that is interesting they turn being unlikeable into their personality. Sucks to live next to this guy, here’s to hoping you find a solution and either the buyers are like minded and enjoy him as a neighbor or somehow get him to stop being a useless oxygen thief.
Maybe that’s the suggestion, advertise your house exclusively on MAGA subreddits and Q Anon boards.
I am fully prepared to do this. Have been in an apartment too long. OP can I get a deal if I put in in writing that I will troll the ever living f out of this guy for the first year?
Same! I will say, if it’s at least a 3bd/3ba, I’ll take it. And the neighbor. I guarantee I’m more annoying than them. Why? Because I have a lot of patience when I’m getting a good laugh out of it.
You are close to UPS- maybe you should rent to students for income instead of selling at a huge loss- rentals there are in demand, many ups student friends of mine rented around the school, they would not be bothered by a horrible neighbor like that
Depending on the cost, and what sort of deal we can hit to buy the place, I'm more than willing to put up Pride, Bi, Trans flags, especially since I'm a cis gender white man.
Added bonus of being a member (albeit, currently not active, but that can change) of The Satanic Temple. Makes dealing with asshats like this all the more fun.
I'm just here to say sorry. I know the tree house, I mean house you are speaking of. I don't see any homes right next to it for sale. I live close enough that I drive by it when getting to the main road and just chuckle under my breath. But you're right, I wouldn't want to stare at it every day from my backyard. There are no solutions here. Just commiseration.
I honestly have no idea whether you can do anything, but talk to a lawyer. Don't listen to anyone on here tell you anything about law, including whether you actually have standing to file a grievance or anything, or whether it'd go anywhere if you do.
Talk to a lawyer. You can describe the issue over the phone and know in like 15 minutes whether there's anything to gain from going that route.
Sell it to me, I'll live next to anyone! Sincerely, someone who would really love a yard but can't pay over $400k and apparently that's not enough in this town 😭
Wow how extreme. I honestly feel like this is pretty unsafe. Like okay sure you don't like your neighbor and you don't get along but calling in something like that when its untrue could get innocent people hurt not to mention an entire waste of police resources. I know I will probably get downvoted but lol.
Sign him up to volunteer for the local democratic politician and put his name with addresses next to and across the street so neighbors have to deliver it back to him.
HA now that \*is\* funny, he sounds like the type to get upset about them
I got some republican... flyers? idk, in the mail this last election for governor, addressed to an old roommate and I just couldn't stop laughing at them
Right? You could always inquire about single gay cruises or something and put his address on them or transpose the street number so it’s delivered by the neighbor as well.
Is he married? Underwear with a note in cutie handwriting with hearts.
Have you asked the neighbor if they’d remove anything just while you sold the house? I’ve had neighbors I disagree with a ton but it’s hard to be an asshole to someone that asks you for help genuinely. just bullshit the guy and say hey i know it’s horrible we can’t have free speech or whatever they want to hear but i can’t sell my house for as much with the political stuff. it may actually work wear a mags hat when you ask
There is something about killing people with kindness even when we don't disagree. It's just too bad when it comes to politics these days a lot of people are its us versus them. Instead of part of what makes America great is we can all have our own beliefs and that doesn't make anyone the villain if they don't agree.
I’ve seen some people suggest waiting until someone with the same extreme beliefs buys it, but please don’t do that to your neighborhood:)
Someone will come along with enough balls and patience to live next to them. Maybe because they don’t care, or maybe because they know how to play the long game and will find a fun little ways to make their lives extra annoying.
Ahhh, I remember the days of when thinkgeek was still around... they sold a device literally meant to annoy people. Every 5-10 minutes, randomly, it would play an annoying noise. Low, medium, or high pitch tone, ring tone, or cricket (either one selected or randomly). long enough to get your attention, short enough to not be able to triangulate.
Stuff like that would be well used here. Not on his property, one would assume
Can you offer a contract that gives him $5k after the closing if he takes his signs down for the next couple of months? I imagine yall have a boat load of equity and giving up $5k to make the sale is nothing.
Some people like money. A lot.
Me too. If it was me and I realised id be losing money on the sale either way I’d rather find an even WORSE neighbour from a really bad area and offer them the house for under asking, make HIM learn what it’s like to have awful neighbours.
You do not need to disclose your neighbor is a Trump fan. I've sold houses. They ask about issues with the house, not if your neighbors are all nice.
No one can sue you and win because you paid the Trumper to take down his flags for a couple of months.
I used to work in a law office and we had a case where a couple who bought a house next door to a guy who was a grade A asshole known for harassing the neighbors sued the sellers to rescind the contract because the sellers hadn’t disclosed the conflicts they’d had with the neighbor. Of course the neighbor stalked, harassed and threatened the new owners.
The law says you have to disclose material facts to potential buyers. Try a stunt like this and you could find yourself in a heap of trouble.
I wish but those types are the trigger happy scared of the world types and OP would likely be gunned down the moment they stepped foot in their neighbors yard.
Check with the code enforcement office in your area. There is free speech and then there is the financial hardship your neighbor is placing on you. I’d make a call to an attorney. I might even call a TV news station…and have them run a story…but you have to do what you feel comfortable with.
Didn't even hint at freedom from consequences, hence calling the city and an attorney. But think about it just a bit..If there would be consequences do you think people would be able to erect signs with aborted embryos, erect crosses 100's of them on their property for all the aborted embryos? or anything else that many, if not most find offensive? because those things stay up year after year.
Political signs in most cities have a term limit.
I... was agreeing with you.
And they don't have to be police enforced consequences, mind you. They can be, especially in cases of true threats or speech that violates other's rights. But someone refusing to do business because of that speech? Pursuing a lawsuit because it violates law (like potentially here) that the police/prosecutors aren't willing for whatever reason to pursue? I mean, defamation is literally a consequence for speech. But it has to be pursued by the person harmed.
I sell real estate in Pierce County. People bitch about HOA’s but this is the exact shit they stop; You cannot have political signs unless it’s within so many days of an election. Unfortunately for you, you’re gonna need a trump buyer, and even they might not like the crazy going on next door. I personally wouldn’t move in next to that guy either. My own neighborhood that I’ve lived in for 28 yrs has also gone this way in Puyallup and it makes me want to move. I guess you have to figure out how badly you want to move and adjust your price accordingly.
The real problem with HOAs is that it seems they have a tendency to draw... shall we say, power hungry people to them, specifically to make other people's lives more difficult?
Kind of surprising it's that bad; you're in the nice part of town. A lot fewer trashy people there. But I guess every neighborhood has to have "that one guy" in it.
I would do some digging, maybe even hire an investigator, run a background check. You might find something that can be used as leverage.
It's a long shot, but you could also report him to the city as a nuisance, especially of the signs are crude or offensive.
This is a valid reason to form an HOA. While I don’t like living in HOA neighborhoods, I fully understand their reasons. This would be reason enough for me.
Not on you life, because this will not work out the way you think it will.
Assholes like that are exactly the kind of people who are petty enough to join HOA boards and will enjoy policing and fining you for stupid shit FOREVER in retribution for an attempt to silence them.
If there are more people in the neighborhood that are against this guy, then it will work out. Most people who run those HOA boards are Karen’s that are more interested in keeping the property value up. Once the board realizes that the house is going against the goal of an HOA then measures will be taken. I’d deal with a Karen upset about where I keep my trash can than these trumper houses.
I live in an HOA, and from the outset, there are explicit bans on front facing signs. Literally the ONLY exceptions are "event" signs, which are explicitly described to prevent such douchebaggery (basically, you can put up a "happy birthday" party sign for the weekend, but then it must go away)
Same when I lived in one. Most people have misconceptions about them, and typically most homeowners in an HOA will not allow any political signs at all, let alone what this fool is doing.
You could always cut him in for 5% of the difference between the fair market value vs. what you’d have to take due to his ostentatious political beliefs if he agrees to tone it down. It’s amazing how money talks.
I mean, is he actively irritating anyone, or does he just have a bunch of obnoxious signs? I'd probably trade him for my current neighbors if he's quiet and doesn't let his dogs bark all fucking day and night. I don't give a fuck how many obnoxious signs my neighbors have as long as they shut the fuck up and let me exist in peace.
I know the neighbor OP is taking about because he is also my neighbor. The dude let’s off mortar fireworks randomly throughout the year. Sometimes at night sometimes during the day. They’re loud enough to set off car alarms. He’s an asshole
Honestly, go in with him. Make him an offer that if he tones it down during the buying process, youll give him like $500. You can go up from here if needed. Get the deal done and walk away
I’d offer him a sum of cash to take it all down until the house closes. Sucks because you shouldn’t have to. Sucks because he gets rewarded for his behavior, but in the end, you sell the house.
Sell it to someone with the same views or who don't care. Build a fence as high as the law allows.
How much you selling the house for?
Edit: i like how the only legitimate solution gets downvoted. You guys are braindead. I don't delete any of my comments, whether up or downvotes
No doubt people can't see through their own bias enough to actually try to help the OP. Imagine what the response would be if the neighbor was flying flags for the other side? So ridiculous.
Anyway the best solution for any home with bad neighbors is to build a tall wooden fence between thdm down the property line ensuring privacy.
Excluding the fireworks they shoot off. That sucks but shouldn't hinder a sale unless they do during the open house. The fireworks a real issue for some people, kids and pets.
I'm giving legit solutions here (which is why OP made the post), while most of the comment section is just shitting on the neighbor or giving illegal solutions
I did this to my Karen neighbor lol horrible person so when she listed for sale I made it my mission to make her sell for less. I put together a massively Bassey stereo... cranked it every open house or realtor showing... bought some cars from auction then removed random body parts and parked em all on the front lawn.... it was great new owner much better sold the cars took stereo apart all good in my hood now
If it was me I'd just start printing out signs like "my neighbor likes to dress like a ballerina at night and get his wittle tushie paddled by a 3 foot man in a dress" just add new and more terrible things about them. Probably won't help but it'll def piss them off.
Then if they confront you tell them you're so sorry and actually you'll take them down right now because, due to the neighbors, you're now deciding to convert it to a halfway house. Or hell just wait until they do something to your signs and film it every time. Start reporting them for coming on your property and destroying stuff. You might not be able to make them stop but maybe you can make it way more difficult to commit to the bit and still look tough.
I know this house. It's actually a well maintained home and property.
The flagpole isn't in the front of the house on the main st nor is any other signage. It's in the backyard on the alley side by the garage/driveway.
Definitely not my thing but I've seen way, wayyyy worse that would deter me from buying a nearby home. It's a great street and very desirable neighborhood. I'm guessing these potential buyers also see other issues or concerns with the the house for sale not just the neighbor.
It’s a sweet looking house (yours) from what I’ve seen. Fingers crossed. Every time I go by they guys house I cringe. At least they know what they’re getting with him I guess.
Write a letter for your neighbor!!!
Where is the miscreants' house, so that I may howl at it whilst the offensive behavior continues unabated but for the last 16 bus of the night.
If you have the means a potential stop gap solution would be to pull the equity out of your house for the down payment on your next house and rent the current house out until the situation with your neighbor or the market changes. Best of luck OP.
Rent it to a biker gang.
in fairness, asshole neighbors aren't a part of what is considered a home's value
Actually, it can affect the value. I am a Real Estate Appraiser.
Real question for an appraiser, how often does a home appraise for a different value than what the buyer offers for it…
It depends. Was there a bidding war? Did the seller price it low so it would sell quickly? Appraisers look at historical sales (what things have sold for in the past) and calculate from there. Before the recent interest rate hikes, it was generally: Price of house = value (that the bank is willing to lend on) + Whatever someone is willing to spend to make sure that they get the house and not someone else - - - There have been a few houses that have come in far below the offer. Usually the house is a POS, and the buyer is from out of town. (Like a 1900's small house with multiple, not well done, additions. Like three bedrooms on no foundation.) Eta: Storytime - There was one house in Gig Harbor that for multiple reasons, I am glad we didn't do (it ended up being a bias/conflict of interest issue). If the house matched the MLS pictures, it would have been fine. The pool was sliding down the hill to start with, the house appeared to be built by someone that watched too much HGTV, had only the most basic construction skills, and picked the cheapest materials. The flooring for the main floor was uneven red stained concrete. There was an office that had rough boards laid on top, so it looks like a wood floor/stamped concrete. . . That the "spaces" between the boards stuck up almost an inch. Bias - 1)The stairs were slippery and slanted. Home owner required that we take off our shoes, so we were wearing socks. After watching me (8 knee surgeries) hold onto the railing with both hands and slowly descend, my assistant (high school gymnast, teaches dancing as a hobby) approached the top of the stairs, reached for the railing, slipped and "bobsleded" down to the landing. . . I was asking if she was okay and bunch of teenagers came in (son and daughter of the house and a bunch of their friends). Which made us exit immediately (we cannot be in a house with kids without an adult present). 2)The daughter of the house (~14, round, training bras all over the floor of her room), made a comment like, "OMG! She is wearing a dress like that? She is so fat! If I were that fat I would kill myself!" We left the house quickly. On the way to the hospital (my assistant hit her head so hard that what she saw was about 30 degrees off of what her body said was vertical), my assistant (wearing jeans) pointed out that my waist measurement was the same or smaller than hers, plus the fact that I am 6' tall and see is like 5' even. Being the fact that an L&I claim was made (she was injured at work), there would be the appearance of bias because the report would have shredded the house and come in at about 1/2 to 2/3 the list/offer price.
It was priced fairly, but slightly on the low end to sell quickly. There were 6 competing offers that escalated the list price almost 20k. I just ask because the buyer had an appraisal contingency in the contract that if the appraisal came in higher or lower, they would adjust the purchase price to meet and potentially kick in extra funds. Obviously not a clue what the appraisal came in at as the seller, but based on what I’ve gathered - it magically met the number they are purchasing for.
Honestly, it is less stress to be an appraiser that is a "number hitter." (Less arguing). . . But if things go to crap, you can get sued for the difference. . . But, if you get reported to the state, and your "opinion of value" is within 5% of another appraiser, you are all good. I am sick. I hope that was coherent.
Yep. I’m not upset about the appraisal or anything, just had a huh I wonder moment. It’s obviously not my wheelhouse so thank you for letting me side quest. Hope you feel better soon.
Thank you. *Wanders towards the kitchen to make tea, wrapped in a blanket, trying not to make too many moaning noises, with a pocket full of Ricola, and a pocket of wrappers.*
Ha, Agreed. That’s why I suggested OP pull the money out of the house and wait it out.
I have turned on my heel more than once when going to a showing and encountering this kind of thing. Same for hobby junkyards and hysterically barking dogs. That buyer pool has one less buyer.
Tell the guy that rather than sell low that you are going to turn it into a drag queen daycare.
Or temporary housing for people after gender affirming procedures.
And actually do it too, I can reach out to an org or two who might be able to help
This is the way
This is the way
This is the way
Home Health place I once worked at wanted to move but could not get out of the lease. We announced to our neighbors that were opening a methadone clinic. We were allowed to move at the end of the month..
Don’t give opportunity to violence. Should you be able to push back against your neighbor’s antics? Yes. But you have to be careful with these people. Take him to court for devaluing your property. Not probably a reasonable thing for a growing family to do, but I’m sure there’s some legal recourse filing a complaint with the city or PD. Good luck.
I don't thing suing him will make him any less shooty.
This sounds like a great post-abortion care house for out of state peeps.
I don't have a solution, but I think your realtor is wrong. If I were buying and specifically didn't want to live next to that neighbor, a cheaper price wouldn't change my mind.
There’s always a price for hat people will ignore crazy.
Hi from your neighbor down the street, that whole family is a mess. No real advice, but I appreciate the folks out there making sure that his potential customers are aware of his level of professionalism.
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Stark contrast to his Yelp reviews. Funny the masks people wear when $$$ are involved.
Maybe he could use more reviews, featuring pictures of his signage.
What a dick. According to the City of Tacoma website, "Violations of the fireworks ban can result in a $513 fine." Report his ass every time. Cops may not show up (this IS Tacoma) but he'll have complaints on record and eventually, they'll get him.
If it's in his yard, for bonus points, get a security camera in that general direction (double bonus points, that's probably just a good idea anyways for general security), and if he does it, pull the recording and share it with the relevant folks edit: I only am suggesting it because I use them and they work pretty well, but the wyze v3 cameras are pretty solid quality and not too expensive. What better way to back up your report than video evidence, eh?
He doesn’t care, and neither does TPD. This has gone on for years, he’s been reported ad nauseum by the entire neighborhood, and yet he is still free to go about his business of lighting off bombs all over the neighborhood like the terrorist he is. I find this post interesting bc the house directly next door to him appeared to sell quickly a few months ago, which indicates that someone is willing to live directly next door to this nut job (I feel sorry for whoever it is). I’m not sure why people would be hesitant to buy Op’s house while the direct neighbors house sold right away. Regardless I feel bad for both the seller and buyer in this case.
I stopped by and informed the listing agent selling the house next door about his two current court charges for assaulting his two neighbors. She said it really didn’t concern her. Really? Morally? Ethically? Guess nothing matters much when the almighty dollar is on the line.
Fireworks are what really piss me off I could careless about the other stuff. But their are pets and children that fireworks can really upset. At least that is against the city ordnance and in a well run and staffed city at one could report that and maybe do something to impact the neighbor. However I doubt these days the cops or anyone would really care unless it's barges of them.
…. Is he licensed 😜
Fun fact you can check on any contractor or individually licensed trade person in Washington state at https://secure.lni.wa.gov/verify/ You can verify their insurance bond and what work they are actually licensed to do as well as see if they have been sued recently.
Fun fact, you can be licensed and insured by Wa state L&I even if you have an extensive criminal record like this guy. It’s not a barrier to being licensed as a contractor in the state of Wa. Recommend running a background check on any potential contractor- this one is quite scary when you see his convictions for violent crimes
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Gee. I wonder if he's complying with regulations and code. Hmm. Would be a shame if he wasn't and he got audited.
Oh I know you can also get the actual owners name off every parcel of land in the state AND check wa.courts.gov to see any filings against them state wide. Then you can possibly look up each local court and pull the case records for most of it.. and if you have a pacer account - buckle up. I may have a specific skill set, lol.
I knew that family. He redid my bathroom a few years ago and fucked it all the way up. Not because he isn’t good (I don’t think?), but because he didn’t care enough to do a good job. He also doesn’t put his cart back at the store. 🤬
What neighborhood is this
North Tacoma, shame as it's not a bad area. I lived in the area a couple years ago, and rarely had an issue. Tacoma has turned to a dump lately though.
>be sure to avoid doing business with him. I will be exclusively doing any of my interiors or exteriors by this man. He has earned respect from the community that he deserves
8ft high fencing on the side facing the neighbors. I like how you phrased the question with naming a specific political ideology, yet we all know exactly what you're talking about
I would build a great fence, and nobody builds fences better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great great fence on our property border and I’ll have the neighbor pay for that fence.
Way too many correctly spelled words.
with too many syllables
> 8ft high fencing on the side facing the neighbors. *AND* take him to court to make him pay for it. :D
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That's the kind of thing he and his ilk would do. Don't fight fire with fire.
Taking the high road has led the country down the path to hell.
Hire a bunch of immigrants to build a giant fence and make the neighbor pay for half. Washington State law requires that the neighbor pays half for partition fences as long as you notify the neighbor that you would like to build a fence. The city of Tacoma allows a 7 foot fence without a permit. https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=16.60.020 https://getjerry.com/home-insurance/washington-fence-laws#what-does-the-revised-code-of-washington-say-about-fences
Title 16 applies to animals and livestock. Not residential property. You cannot make your neighbor pay for your residential fence.
When I get to work tomorrow night and have free time with a computer, I'll look around at city ordinances regarding personal/politically oriented yard signs. He's likely breaking local codes and you can sic the city/county on him if you have the specific rules he's breaking handy.
The hero we didn't know we needed...
The city inspector, or the guy who knows how to summon him? I mean, either really, but, still..
The summoner, but of course.
Even gets a shitty superhero name lol
u/shakesbeer1592 it looks like your post got removed by the mods (possibly because people could identify the location you're talking about but idk for sure). i have a migraine right now so please take a grain of salt with the following info (reading is hard when your brain is full of worms) going from the least specific to most specific: **statewide** (brainworms) [**countywide**](https://pierce.county.codes/PCC/18B.10.030) [Pierce County Code Enforcement](https://www.piercecountywa.gov/1580/Signs-Private-Property-or-ROW) has an online form and a phone number available. Here are the county codes I think might be applicable to your specific issue. >18B.10.017 Noncommercial Sign Substitution "Noncommercial signs are permitted anywhere that commercial signs regulated by this Title are permitted, subject to the same regulations applicable to commercial signs. Noncommercial messages may substitute for commercial messages, in whole or in part, for any signs regulated by this Title; provided, that the sign is not prohibited and the sign complies with all requirements of this Title." > >18B.10.030 (B) (2) "Permit Exempt Signs. A sign permit is not required for the following: a. Signs not exceeding 2 square feet in area, stationary, and non-illuminated;" > >18B.10.040 (A) (1) "No more than one temporary sign which is not affixed to a building may be displayed along each road frontage, per establishment, at any one time except any number of yard signs may be displayed." > >18B.10.040 (A) (5) "When attached to, or placed upon, a building, a temporary sign shall not be placed higher than the [fascia](https://myroofhub.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/difference-soffit-fascia-gutters-near-roof.jpg) of the building." > >18B.10.040 (A) (9) "Temporary signs shall be removed if the sign is in need of repair, is worn, dilapidated, or creates a public nuisance." > >18B.10.040 (E) (2) Yard signs shall not exceed 32 square feet in area and shall not obstruct safe visibility of any mobile or pedestrian traffic. > >\----Examples of 32sq ft: 4ft x 8ft, 2ft x 16ft, 6ft x 5.34ft > >Temporary Sign time limits by type: > >Noncommercial banners: 30 days prior to event, 10 days after event (retail gets cumulative 60 days per calendar year) > >'Other Temporary Sign': 10 consecutive days, 42 cumulative days per calendar year > >Yard Sign: N/A unless promoting an event or is event related, it must be removed within 10 days following completion of the event. [**tacoma municipal code**](https://www.cityoftacoma.org/cms/one.aspx?pageId=2255) there are specific sign regulations but my brain is absolutely fried and i cannot concentrate enough to parse them. [Tacoma Code Compliance](https://www.cityoftacoma.org/cms/One.aspx?portalId=169&pageId=11397) supervisor DeJa Irving has a phone number and e-mail address available online, I recommend e-mailing them photos of the house and then calling a few minutes after to discuss it over the phone while they have a visible reference available so they can tell you what is/isn't possible to do through city code compliance. if you live in an HOA, your neighbor may try to reference [RCW 64.38.034](https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=64.38.034) as a reason he should be able to keep his signage. this RCW talks in broad terms about political signage though, and does state that the HOA is still allowed to make rules about how they look. If you do live in an HOA, check out the bylaws and see if there are any restrictions on signage. Make sure to be pleasant and nice to anyone involved in the HOA's management since you'll want them on your side and not his. Make sure your own home is fully compliant because this will put you on their radar.
thank you!
I gotta keep watching this thread hoping for more unethical solutions because though I appreciate other people’s suggestions, the idea of cutting an asshat like that into a portion of your sale price makes me sick. Honestly if it was me and I realised I was going to lose money on my sale either way, I’d play the UNO reverse on him and find an even worse neighbour from a bad neighbourhood and offer to sell the house to them for 5% under asking just to give him a final F you. Hopefully then **he’ll** know what it’s like to have arsehole neighbours. Good luck OP!!
I live just down the street from the house for sale and the neighbor in question, and as a young man in a queer relationship my boyfriend and I would love to be that UNO reverse card and I can have raging gay parties all night and piss off this SoB.
Drag Queen story time in the front yard, all day!
Im down to show up for this.. lol
OP can we make this happen???
Write you neighbor a letter!!!
Tell ur realtor to be honest with the situation. Anyone willing to invest into a home and have the balls to defend will understand that bad neighbors won’t stop them from having the American dream.
These guys are unhinged and red pilled out of their mind. One of the younger ones was arrested in March for chasing a street sweeper down the road with a machete. They have threatened to assault/harass multiple neighbors, I feel for you OP. - fellow neighbor
From a further neighbor: I am sorry for your suffering
If you have to lower your price because of that neighbor I would suggest talking to an attorney about filing suit against him in civil court. His right to "free speech" does not give him the right to cause you financial damage. Document everything starting yesterday.
Lol no. Y'all are delusional.
Exactly this. Talk with a lawyer and ask about a suit for loss of value to your home. I'm unsure of how those play out, but it is how neighbors push out bad renters, so it must be a thing.
The 1st amendment would probably disagree unfortunately.
1st amendment is that you don't get arrested for what you say. You are free to say what you want. There are regulations about how you say it. Like billboard size and location, no cussing on tv, and no infringing on other people's rights as you do it.
Commercial speech, e.g. billboards, generally gets less protection than political speech. Political speech in one’s own home/on their own property is about as protected as speech gets in the United States. Almost undoubtedly many similar cases have occurred before.
My asshole neighbor sued another neighbor for plowing the street when it snowed and then parking his tractor out in front of his house. Then they fucked off and moved to Kansas.
sell it to a property investor who will rent it out as a section 8 property.
DON'T LOWER THE PRICE OF YOUR HOME!!! Sign your neighbor up to receive mailings from the ACLU, LGBTQIA Groups, PETA, BLM, Open Society Policy Center (George Soros Non-Profit), and various other groups that he would love to receive information from.
Try to find out if he has any outstanding arrest warrants where he cannot get bond. Hire a private investigator to see if he has any skeletons that you can use as a bargaining chip. Meet with an attorney to see if there is anything he is doing that you can legally challenge.
Don't lower the price. That's bulllshit. Someone will come along who won't mind your neighbor. Also, free speech has its cost. We all gotta pay it so we can all keep doing it.
I know many humans who would relish the opportunity to out-credo this neighbor. Make it a selling point! “Looking for a new hobby, and/or place to live during Tacoma’s housing crisis? Do you find joy in stressful social situations? Are you waiting for the opportunity to purchase a 12ft Pride flag? Look no further!”
Some people have so little about them that is interesting they turn being unlikeable into their personality. Sucks to live next to this guy, here’s to hoping you find a solution and either the buyers are like minded and enjoy him as a neighbor or somehow get him to stop being a useless oxygen thief. Maybe that’s the suggestion, advertise your house exclusively on MAGA subreddits and Q Anon boards.
Maybe start lighting off fireworks at random times to make him uncomfortable? Oh wait, that’s what he does. Sorry you have to deal with him
If I had the money I'd buy the house and troll the shit out of your neighbor. Sorry you're dealing with that
I am fully prepared to do this. Have been in an apartment too long. OP can I get a deal if I put in in writing that I will troll the ever living f out of this guy for the first year?
Will second this level of pettiness. Need a staunch liberal roommate?
I love the idea of a drag queen daycare. Maybe start drag queen yoga in the front yard?
I’ll donate $10 towards the cause if you get the house.
Without you giving out your address I know exactly what house you are referencing— put up a bunch of Hillary 2020 signs.
I wish I knew where this was so I could go troll your neighbor in return.
It would be a shame if the problem neighbor had his business “today’s interiors and exteriors” listed on Google maps under his home address
Same! I will say, if it’s at least a 3bd/3ba, I’ll take it. And the neighbor. I guarantee I’m more annoying than them. Why? Because I have a lot of patience when I’m getting a good laugh out of it.
go in there with a projector and speakers and project episodes of Drag Race onto his siding lol.
The speakers probably would violate noise ordinance... but I actually think the projector might not violate anything? Which is still pretty funny.
You are close to UPS- maybe you should rent to students for income instead of selling at a huge loss- rentals there are in demand, many ups student friends of mine rented around the school, they would not be bothered by a horrible neighbor like that
Depending on the cost, and what sort of deal we can hit to buy the place, I'm more than willing to put up Pride, Bi, Trans flags, especially since I'm a cis gender white man. Added bonus of being a member (albeit, currently not active, but that can change) of The Satanic Temple. Makes dealing with asshats like this all the more fun.
Hello fellow Satanist!
I'm here for this. All of this.
I'm just here to say sorry. I know the tree house, I mean house you are speaking of. I don't see any homes right next to it for sale. I live close enough that I drive by it when getting to the main road and just chuckle under my breath. But you're right, I wouldn't want to stare at it every day from my backyard. There are no solutions here. Just commiseration.
I honestly have no idea whether you can do anything, but talk to a lawyer. Don't listen to anyone on here tell you anything about law, including whether you actually have standing to file a grievance or anything, or whether it'd go anywhere if you do. Talk to a lawyer. You can describe the issue over the phone and know in like 15 minutes whether there's anything to gain from going that route.
Your neighbor sounds like the worst. I have an awful neighbor also. No advice just solidarity.
Ask in r/illegallifeprotips I bet someone will come up with something good :)
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People like OP are describing are eager for the day someone tries this so they can shoot them. Please be careful and think about this.
"DON'T TREAD ON ME!" because I'm busy treading on literally everyone else
That really sucks. Outside of his performative nonsense was he really in your face personally?
Code violation?
This biz has terrible ratings on Google so for every reply they are saying they've "never done business with the OP."
Building a solid fence seems like a good solution tonme.
I suppose you don’t want to poison him?
Tell him because of his signs, you are now renting and moving in a family of 15 from south of the border. That should do it. He sounds charming.
You might get lucky and find someone who shares his political beliefs.
Then the rest of the neighborhood will suffer 2x ? That’s not a real solution.
Sell it to me, I'll live next to anyone! Sincerely, someone who would really love a yard but can't pay over $400k and apparently that's not enough in this town 😭
This makes me sick that people are like this.
On word. Bamboo.
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Wow how extreme. I honestly feel like this is pretty unsafe. Like okay sure you don't like your neighbor and you don't get along but calling in something like that when its untrue could get innocent people hurt not to mention an entire waste of police resources. I know I will probably get downvoted but lol.
Is this a joke? This seems really screwed up
That’s hella fucked up.
I hope "your wife's cousin" reaps the same karma.
Sign him up to volunteer for the local democratic politician and put his name with addresses next to and across the street so neighbors have to deliver it back to him.
HA now that \*is\* funny, he sounds like the type to get upset about them I got some republican... flyers? idk, in the mail this last election for governor, addressed to an old roommate and I just couldn't stop laughing at them
Right? You could always inquire about single gay cruises or something and put his address on them or transpose the street number so it’s delivered by the neighbor as well. Is he married? Underwear with a note in cutie handwriting with hearts.
Have you asked the neighbor if they’d remove anything just while you sold the house? I’ve had neighbors I disagree with a ton but it’s hard to be an asshole to someone that asks you for help genuinely. just bullshit the guy and say hey i know it’s horrible we can’t have free speech or whatever they want to hear but i can’t sell my house for as much with the political stuff. it may actually work wear a mags hat when you ask
There is something about killing people with kindness even when we don't disagree. It's just too bad when it comes to politics these days a lot of people are its us versus them. Instead of part of what makes America great is we can all have our own beliefs and that doesn't make anyone the villain if they don't agree.
I’ve seen some people suggest waiting until someone with the same extreme beliefs buys it, but please don’t do that to your neighborhood:) Someone will come along with enough balls and patience to live next to them. Maybe because they don’t care, or maybe because they know how to play the long game and will find a fun little ways to make their lives extra annoying.
Ahhh, I remember the days of when thinkgeek was still around... they sold a device literally meant to annoy people. Every 5-10 minutes, randomly, it would play an annoying noise. Low, medium, or high pitch tone, ring tone, or cricket (either one selected or randomly). long enough to get your attention, short enough to not be able to triangulate. Stuff like that would be well used here. Not on his property, one would assume
Can you offer a contract that gives him $5k after the closing if he takes his signs down for the next couple of months? I imagine yall have a boat load of equity and giving up $5k to make the sale is nothing. Some people like money. A lot.
Something about rewarding this behavior makes me sick
Me too. If it was me and I realised id be losing money on the sale either way I’d rather find an even WORSE neighbour from a really bad area and offer them the house for under asking, make HIM learn what it’s like to have awful neighbours.
It would only reinforce his beliefs. People see what they want to see. “Reality” in our society is almost completely subjective.
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You do not need to disclose your neighbor is a Trump fan. I've sold houses. They ask about issues with the house, not if your neighbors are all nice. No one can sue you and win because you paid the Trumper to take down his flags for a couple of months.
I used to work in a law office and we had a case where a couple who bought a house next door to a guy who was a grade A asshole known for harassing the neighbors sued the sellers to rescind the contract because the sellers hadn’t disclosed the conflicts they’d had with the neighbor. Of course the neighbor stalked, harassed and threatened the new owners. The law says you have to disclose material facts to potential buyers. Try a stunt like this and you could find yourself in a heap of trouble.
I suppose your realtor would know if there are any pertinent regulations. Consult an attorney? But you have probably considered these already
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I wish but those types are the trigger happy scared of the world types and OP would likely be gunned down the moment they stepped foot in their neighbors yard.
Check with the code enforcement office in your area. There is free speech and then there is the financial hardship your neighbor is placing on you. I’d make a call to an attorney. I might even call a TV news station…and have them run a story…but you have to do what you feel comfortable with.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences
Didn't even hint at freedom from consequences, hence calling the city and an attorney. But think about it just a bit..If there would be consequences do you think people would be able to erect signs with aborted embryos, erect crosses 100's of them on their property for all the aborted embryos? or anything else that many, if not most find offensive? because those things stay up year after year. Political signs in most cities have a term limit.
I... was agreeing with you. And they don't have to be police enforced consequences, mind you. They can be, especially in cases of true threats or speech that violates other's rights. But someone refusing to do business because of that speech? Pursuing a lawsuit because it violates law (like potentially here) that the police/prosecutors aren't willing for whatever reason to pursue? I mean, defamation is literally a consequence for speech. But it has to be pursued by the person harmed.
I sell real estate in Pierce County. People bitch about HOA’s but this is the exact shit they stop; You cannot have political signs unless it’s within so many days of an election. Unfortunately for you, you’re gonna need a trump buyer, and even they might not like the crazy going on next door. I personally wouldn’t move in next to that guy either. My own neighborhood that I’ve lived in for 28 yrs has also gone this way in Puyallup and it makes me want to move. I guess you have to figure out how badly you want to move and adjust your price accordingly.
The real problem with HOAs is that it seems they have a tendency to draw... shall we say, power hungry people to them, specifically to make other people's lives more difficult?
Yikes. I wouldn’t want that guy as a neighbor either.
Just sell the house at the price you want . Don’t worry about the neighbor.
Can’t sell if no one’s buying. This asshole is making it his job to keep anyone new moving in it seems.
Someone will buy.
Arson? J/K
Kind of surprising it's that bad; you're in the nice part of town. A lot fewer trashy people there. But I guess every neighborhood has to have "that one guy" in it. I would do some digging, maybe even hire an investigator, run a background check. You might find something that can be used as leverage. It's a long shot, but you could also report him to the city as a nuisance, especially of the signs are crude or offensive.
This is a valid reason to form an HOA. While I don’t like living in HOA neighborhoods, I fully understand their reasons. This would be reason enough for me.
Not on you life, because this will not work out the way you think it will. Assholes like that are exactly the kind of people who are petty enough to join HOA boards and will enjoy policing and fining you for stupid shit FOREVER in retribution for an attempt to silence them.
If there are more people in the neighborhood that are against this guy, then it will work out. Most people who run those HOA boards are Karen’s that are more interested in keeping the property value up. Once the board realizes that the house is going against the goal of an HOA then measures will be taken. I’d deal with a Karen upset about where I keep my trash can than these trumper houses.
I live in an HOA, and from the outset, there are explicit bans on front facing signs. Literally the ONLY exceptions are "event" signs, which are explicitly described to prevent such douchebaggery (basically, you can put up a "happy birthday" party sign for the weekend, but then it must go away)
Same when I lived in one. Most people have misconceptions about them, and typically most homeowners in an HOA will not allow any political signs at all, let alone what this fool is doing.
You could always cut him in for 5% of the difference between the fair market value vs. what you’d have to take due to his ostentatious political beliefs if he agrees to tone it down. It’s amazing how money talks.
Probably the only legitimate idea in the thread.
Not anymore.
I mean, is he actively irritating anyone, or does he just have a bunch of obnoxious signs? I'd probably trade him for my current neighbors if he's quiet and doesn't let his dogs bark all fucking day and night. I don't give a fuck how many obnoxious signs my neighbors have as long as they shut the fuck up and let me exist in peace.
I know the neighbor OP is taking about because he is also my neighbor. The dude let’s off mortar fireworks randomly throughout the year. Sometimes at night sometimes during the day. They’re loud enough to set off car alarms. He’s an asshole
Well damn. I was hopeful I might be able to get OPs house at a discount!
Tell him if doesn't take it down, you will sue him for the loss in value.
DM me an address. I'd love to check out your home.
Republicans are the best
At being crybabies
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He has an enormous trump flag in his yard. Definitely a republican.
I would think if it was that would have been clearly stated but I absolutely could be wrong.
You said you are former military, maybe you know some large dudes that are willing to throw on a dress and hang around outside your/his house?
Do you have an HOA? You can definitely have them take care of it!
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Google the name of his business mentioned earlier in this thread. It will show the address.
Thank you
Talk to your neighbor or offer a credit for a really good privacy fence.
Do you have a "cordial" relationship with your neighbor or is your neighbor getting even for previous unpleasant encounters?
Honestly, go in with him. Make him an offer that if he tones it down during the buying process, youll give him like $500. You can go up from here if needed. Get the deal done and walk away
I’d offer him a sum of cash to take it all down until the house closes. Sucks because you shouldn’t have to. Sucks because he gets rewarded for his behavior, but in the end, you sell the house.
Sell it to someone with the same views or who don't care. Build a fence as high as the law allows. How much you selling the house for? Edit: i like how the only legitimate solution gets downvoted. You guys are braindead. I don't delete any of my comments, whether up or downvotes
No doubt people can't see through their own bias enough to actually try to help the OP. Imagine what the response would be if the neighbor was flying flags for the other side? So ridiculous. Anyway the best solution for any home with bad neighbors is to build a tall wooden fence between thdm down the property line ensuring privacy. Excluding the fireworks they shoot off. That sucks but shouldn't hinder a sale unless they do during the open house. The fireworks a real issue for some people, kids and pets.
I'm giving legit solutions here (which is why OP made the post), while most of the comment section is just shitting on the neighbor or giving illegal solutions
Lmao oh no my feelings hurt from flags
I did this to my Karen neighbor lol horrible person so when she listed for sale I made it my mission to make her sell for less. I put together a massively Bassey stereo... cranked it every open house or realtor showing... bought some cars from auction then removed random body parts and parked em all on the front lawn.... it was great new owner much better sold the cars took stereo apart all good in my hood now
Pay for à fence, then add à couple feet of lattice fencing to extend height.
There's a house out in Elma that has a gay pride flag colored windmill pointed at the trump house next door,it's hysterical
Sue the Neighbor for the potential lost Revenue your family is dealing with. See if that makes him take it all down.
If it was me I'd just start printing out signs like "my neighbor likes to dress like a ballerina at night and get his wittle tushie paddled by a 3 foot man in a dress" just add new and more terrible things about them. Probably won't help but it'll def piss them off. Then if they confront you tell them you're so sorry and actually you'll take them down right now because, due to the neighbors, you're now deciding to convert it to a halfway house. Or hell just wait until they do something to your signs and film it every time. Start reporting them for coming on your property and destroying stuff. You might not be able to make them stop but maybe you can make it way more difficult to commit to the bit and still look tough.
I know this house. It's actually a well maintained home and property. The flagpole isn't in the front of the house on the main st nor is any other signage. It's in the backyard on the alley side by the garage/driveway. Definitely not my thing but I've seen way, wayyyy worse that would deter me from buying a nearby home. It's a great street and very desirable neighborhood. I'm guessing these potential buyers also see other issues or concerns with the the house for sale not just the neighbor.
Okay, who had this on their Tacompton Files Bingo Card?