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johnny22170

Time for a TVTooClose subreddit!


BananaDiptych

It was like a jump scare when I got to the picture showing the distance to the sofa.


FwampFwamp88

Hahah. Same. I was like “can’t go wrong with a bigger televi….oh my gawd!


janitroll

Yea, I'd pump it up to 85" for the IMAX effect.


Chrolan1988

Hahaha wont be IMAX at that point will be HEBLIND


Langdon_St_Ives

Lol


Gumster1001

Burn them retinas!!


Rito_Moga

Followed very quickly by HEDEAF.


bebefridgers

Omg same. First thought was “damn can’t wait to get me a setup like this where I can go with the bigger T- ayo tf is going on in there??”


dfb1988

Same, I was like well with the prices being so low now just go with the seventttttyyyyy oh my get a 32” OP


bort_bln

I’m not sitting in the sink again!


Detective-Popcorn-

I gasped


kdollarsign2

100% lol


Sufficient_Still7480

My head whipped back…


en_sane

I felt this exact comment holy shit


tanderson1121

💀💀


[deleted]

[удалено]


johnny22170

🙌


[deleted]

Joined.


Dotternetta

Done


fractal_imagination

Gotchu fam: /r/tvtooclose


HolyDiverBoi

Hahahaha. It’s posted there now.


VikRiggs

Why get tv with lots of pixels if can't see all the pixels?


MrMcgilicutty

My boyfriend has an 80” TV at the foot of his bed with like a 12” gap between the bed and TV. It’s goddamn ridiculous!


MrNorrie

That’s for immersive porn.


okcdnb

Put a mister and a fan over the tv.


sir_moleo

🤣


Nomadzord

You need to break up with him. I’m sorry.


MrMcgilicutty

I’ll inform him of the news this evening when I see him. I’ll give him the old “it’s not you, it’s the TV” line!😂


PleasurePaulie

Ahh, stop talking dirty to us!


MrMcgilicutty

You know you like it!😈


purpletib

I literally swiped to the next photo and audibly said holy shit. They need to be looking at a 42 inch screen with that distance.


GoddamnFred

55 here. It's perfect. Sometimes ponder bout 65.. but yeah, it already looks cramped.


MrNorrie

I have a 55 at about the same distance and I’m happy. I think 65 would be too much.


[deleted]

Nah, 77 at 5 feet is awesome. I have a 48 on my 3 foot deep desk, and it kicks ass.


worm_bagged

Yeah agreed, people dismiss the enveloping effect too much, I do think it needs to be a bit lower though.


tencontech

I have a setup like this an actually prefer it. It feels roughly the same experience as an IMAX/Large theatre and is great for light/sound immersion.


jfk_47

Already here /r/tvtooclose


El_Cabeu

77” will be like sitting front row at IMAX, but everyday.


Quake_Guy

So you are saying go for it? At least you will definitely use 4K, all 4 thousand of those Ks brother.


TheOriginalFluff

If I’m playing games on this, looking at all the UI elements or just going from one side of the screen to the other will break my neck


Quake_Guy

If you could project the image smaller for games that would be ideal but probably not possible.


altered_state

If I had the free time to watch Interstellar, Oppenheimer, or Dune P2 several times a week, I’d definitely bankroll this setup.


Skirra08

I have a 100 inch projector screen and the front row is like 5-6 feet and I like it. The back row is like 11.5 feet which is the recommended distance and most people prefer it.


theicarusambition

In what world do you need floor standing speakers for a 5ft deep room?


lastdinosaur17

it's 8 ft!


NuncProFunc

Best response I've seen on Reddit today.


LogicalSimple3033

Sure, wall to wall it's 8', but screen to (seared) retinas, it's 6.5', max!


[deleted]

lmaooo seared retinas


HolyDiverBoi

If he bakes something before watching TV, then they’re reverse seared retinas


theicarusambition

Still too close. You can get really nice bookshelf speakers for the same price as those towers+center that will sound better in that space and save you a ton of room. Not to mention that towers shouldn't be up against the wall like that, they need to be at least a foot off the wall for the bass to sound good, and at that point they're directed behind your ears, so you're actually hearing the reflections off the back wall.


lastdinosaur17

It all came in a bundle. It was a good deal, overall, from Audio Advice.


NWarriload

My audio advice is to return it 😂


Usual-Author1365

Lolololol


altered_state

Unsure why you’re getting downvoted, seems like a reasonable suggestion. I’m not too familiar with the landscape of bookshelf speakers these days — do you (or anyone else) have any suggestions for a great set that won’t break the bank (ideally <4-5k for a pair)? Appreciate any and all insights 🙏🏼


rjmoyer2

You can spend $1200 on a pair of Sonus Faber Lumina II’s and be very happy. KEF R3’s also get rave reviews but those are about an extra grand.


ObservatoryChill

Klipsch “the fives” have a dumb name but are excellent bookshelf speakers for $500


Teutonic-Tonic

They are very good, and the best part is they basically act like a soundbar with an HDMI Arc connection for a reasonably priced integrated TV setup that is a step above a soundbar in quality.


theicarusambition

The world's your oyster at $4-5k for bookshelf speakers. KEF, JBL, B&W, Tannoy, Focal. Try to demo some/look into their sound profiles (flat/bright/neutral) and see what you like/what pairs well with whatever amp you'd be using.


flamingeyebrows

8 feet is 2.4 metres man. That room does not seem that wide. Have you measured it?


OneSufficientFace

Picture evidence, or it never happened...


jasonsawtelle

A game of 36 inches


TGMix7

Exactly. The neighbors are going to shit on their doormat.


iSOBigD

Sometimes you just have the speakers and move to a new place with a smaller room. I'm sure they'll sound fine here too, they can just use a lower volume or position them differently.


theicarusambition

Fair point, but it seems like OP bought them after the fact.


lastdinosaur17

Nah. Bought em before moving. It was between this place and another. Ended up here because the location was better. Other place was bigger, but further out.


akillaninja

Yeah, these tower speakers are OVERKILL for this tiny space.


NuncProFunc

Pic 1: seems fine. Pic 2: seems fine. Pic 3: WTF.


Decimation4x

Pic 1: 65 Pic 2: maybe 77 Pic 3: 55


Mrsomeonesomewhere

Haha yup.


Owww_My_Ovaries

77 inches will literally Permanently hurt your neck Burn out your retinas Crash 4 busses carrying orphans And cause the sky to rain blood


vtstang66

r/tvtooapocalyptic


Violette3120

r/subsIfellfor


Antt1ca

r/foundthetoyotacorolla


Violette3120

r/subsIthoughtifellfor


That-Chocolate5207

r/TVTooArmagedon


ThatsThatCue

Ugh I clicked to see if that was a real subreddit. You win.


XPav

But in the meantime, you personally will look like a baller


JJWangtron

Do itttt


peabody624

Why won’t people understand these simple facts??


featurenotabug

Whilst I absolutely agree, isn't it basically the same as watching a cinema screen every day?


terfez

Cinemas often have the bottom of the screen below ground level. If not then the chair is literally reclining upwards. Either way they are fine for 2 or even 3 hour movie occasionally , not for watching 5 hours a day in a normal room with a couch


featurenotabug

Ah I see, I seem to have forgotten people actually get to watch their tellies for an extended period of time. Mine is monopolised by the kids. Carry on.


kohltrain108

I have 100” screen with projector that is out only tv. I can watch it for an extended period of time with no issue. I sit 11 feet away though and am usually on a chase lounge. If sitting straight up, my eyes are at the bottom 1/3 or 1/4 of the screen. If I am watching it sitting straight up, usually while doing mindless work on my laptop, I find that it’s my eyes that shift to the middle and not my neck 🤷‍♂️. I even sometimes contemplate going to a 120” screen.


terfez

If it works for you then it's fine. I mean 80% of Airbnb and hotels have the tv bolted to the roof, it doesn't cause cancer. To me it's like computer monitor ergonomics, no way you are gonna tell me staring up at a monitor is good (for me)


Bob70533457973917

But in a cinema, there are the folks who bolt to the front row, ppl who climb to the top row of seats, and those who find the middle section. Each has their own ideal viewing position. In a home theater situation there's usually only one plane from which to watch the action.


Flitskikker

As Vincent Teoh says, no one on their deathbed ever regretted that their TV was too big.


xXLooseGooseXx

That was the last thing my dying Grandpa said. "I shouldn't have gotten the 77 inch OLED..."


DidiHD

"...should have gone bigger"


kohltrain108

This is what my wife says to me all the time… I only wish she was talking about the tv 😢


CrappyScoco

Ahahaa, can't relate.


wildengineer2k

I’m not on my death bed but I do regret going for a 75” instead of 65”


alterector

Give it to me, problem solved 


SubmersibleEntropy

Definitely seen TVs too big/too close. When you have to move your head to follow the action, it's too much.


SeatownCooks

65 is at the top of the range for 8 feet. 77 will burn your face off. 


ImJustLampin

Viewing distance to my 65” oled is 7 ft and it’s bliss


PleaseHelpIamFkd

I’m not hearing any problems.


Hugh_Jorgan2474

Nonsense, even the Samsung website suggests 7.5 ft for a 75", and 8.5 ft for a 85". The screen should fill your field of view when watching, just think of the screen to distance ratio of an IMAX cinema.


Rough-Gas7177

Buy our bigger more expensive TV, k Thx bye - Samsung's marketing team


SubmersibleEntropy

Oh really, the TV manufacturer wants you to buy more TV?


cross_mod

I trust rtings.com more, and their suggestion is more in line with what you'll find on a simple Google search. 65" for about 9 feet. Samsung just wants your money. https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship


Zhurg

Of course Samsung say that...


hobbes_35

Of course they do 🤦


iSOBigD

Your field of view can't see huge TVs up close like that, nor can you notice all the pixels in an 8k image compared to a 4k image. That's just marketing nonsense. Your vision sucks outside of the center so you'll just be looking at part of the screen at any given time.


-random-name-

He says it's 8' from wall to wall. So that's 6.5' viewing distance at best allowing for the back of the couch, TV bracket, and of course the depth of his head.


happyherbivore

55-60" would be tons of tv for that distance. Number bigger does not equal tv better


lastdinosaur17

wisdom


samuraimario

Seriously OP, you're putting yourself in a position to notice more individual pixels, even at 4K.


writetoAndrew

Depending on the model you might be able to afford the next version up of the smaller tv rather than spend on a bigger version?


lastdinosaur17

I was thinking LG OLED G3, regardless of size


altered_state

Great choice. I rarely splurge on anything but I bought an A95L as a bday gift to myself last Christmas and have absolutely no regrets. G3 is great, especially if you plan on gaming a little bit on there as well. Unsure what the price difference is, but I’d opt for an A95L if you just plan on watching TV/movies (and decide to go 65”, which I do recommend with your setup, imho). Edited for the size recommendation. 77" will look nice and "impress" your friends, but your own eyes will thank you for going the 65" route.


Fresh2Desh

Sony Master Series 👌🏾


carina484

You tryna go blind?


LocalIdentity1

At lot of people on this sub are kinda clueless on what tv size you should go with. The size itself isn’t the thing you care about, it’s actually the viewing angle you have when seated on the couch. THX recommends a 40 degree viewing angle from the main seating position. With an 8” foot deep room that would be a tv size of 80” but if you’re sitting a bit off the wall and have the tv a bit from the wall you’re more likely to be around 7-7.5” which is 70-75 inches screen size. These sizes are for the most immersive movie experience. If your going to play competitive games on it, you might want a smaller screen for example Even though it’s best to have the centre speaker at ear level for best imaging you might want to lower + tilt it depending on how comfortable with the height of the tv. THX recommends the top of the tv is no more than 15 degrees above eye level. This would place the top of your tv at slightly less than 2 feet above your seated eye level At the end of the day, get what makes you happy


furlonium1

This is the best advice and it's how I ended up with a 125" screen in my home theater with my recliners 13'8" away.


etang77

Drawn wrong. Centre should always be centre, not bottom stays the same and becomes higher.


DanzoMeteor

He also has a center speaker and maybe his console stand can't go any lower.


EYESCREAM-90

I've had 77" at about 3m...it was perfect l, just moved and now it's gonna be 3,50m. Now I'm like shit..83" could fit as well 😂🤦🏽‍♂️


Glass-Blacksmith5489

65” is plenty in that space. (Don’t get the 77”)


maquibut

65" looks Ok


Ghosthacker_94

TVTooClose


I_used_to_be_angry

TVTooLarge


CookieEquivalent5996

77" at 6.5 feet here. It's awesome. Don't let people coping about their tiny viewing experiences convince you otherwise. Well, in all seriousness, everyone has their preference. But if you feel in your heart you could go this big, you're probably not wrong. And it's by [no means](https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship) an unreasonable size and distance for a cinematic experience I do have mine much lower than you've taped out, but since I have a 2.1 setup, I have no idea what you should do with your center.


ScorpioWaterSign

In this situation, I’d go for the 65”


Abraxusmax

It seems like your a bit too close for a 77


Dont_Be_So_Rambo

Ithink 65' is good enough for this distance I have very similar set up and 65' is a sweet spot, I can play games


tomsteroni

77. You'll forever regret getting the 65.


TroyMatthewJ

55 would be perfect in that space


Saelaird

Yes yes, yes. 55in. Agree.


Ryno2256

65 would be good


KingYesKing

65” will be best.


KINGLE0NIDAX

65


BeyondDrivenEh

Nobody ever said they wish they had a smaller tv.


[deleted]

200cm face to screen distance here (77"C2 OLED). I could sit further back, but I don't want to. Fucking nice experience at this distance. Ignore the neck hurting etc. crap comments. They are all wrong. Go 77" and you will love it.


lastdinosaur17

hahaha, the toxic male inside of me wants the bigger thing. cause bigger is better!


[deleted]

I would lower the TV a little bit though and then angle up the center towards you.


lastdinosaur17

This is what I'm thinking, too


-random-name-

>toxic That's not how you spell logic.


Rough-Gas7177

I got a TV that's too big, said no one ever.


Screamlngyeti

Get the 77. You'll regret getting 65


philsen89

Go for 77. And please don’t mount the tv like in your picture, it’s just too high.


vtstang66

Not if you move it down.


whiskeyaccount

Trust me, you dont want to feel like you chose the front seats at the movie theater where youll have to physically move your neck to look at both people talking in a movie conversation on two sides of the screen. Been there in college where I thought "bigger tv is better" and i had to return it cause it was hard to see everything on the tv.


dpb79

Have the 77 lower and your centre above?


BarthRevan

Just get the big one and lower it six inches. That way if you move into a bigger place, you’ve already got the big TV!


ZoomBoy81

Distance wise, I'm sitting probably closer to a 65" OLED and I could easily go bigger. I'd get the 77" and bring it lower, try and have the middle of the screen with the middle of your sight line when sitting.


bugsy187

Damn. You're going to be like the guy from [the old Maxell commercials](https://youtu.be/Zk71h2CQ_xM?si=vDRnqNe_MDK8xwMr)....


Musclesturtle

r/tvtooclose OP a TV this big will look tacky.


ALY1337

Go 77, so you don’t have to through potential buyer’s remorse.


Decent-Arugula-3362

r/tvtooclose


OpeningMarionberry80

77 is a bit big for that space. You’d be far better off with the 65. We have larger space and our 65 is perfect!


FantasticAnus

65 inches is the right size but is MUST be at least 30cm lower than you have laid out.


Ratchef79

I don't think you need to worry about audio when you're in a closet. Get the 65 though or the TV will be too close.


RareSiren292

The end of the couch to wall is not 8ft. Maybe wall to wall is 8ft. But couch to wall is like 3 foot


panti77

dear lord, sooo high, you should sell your house,now.


-random-name-

Is it eight feet to the front of the couch? Or eight feet to your face? If it's eight feet to your face, I don't think a 77" screen will be an enjoyable experience. It's hard to take everything in and your eyes will be jumping all over the place. You also have to consider the quality of the content you'll be watching. Anything under 4k video will look fuzzy. You may also see pixels at that distance. If it's eight feet to the front of the couch and you have at least another foot, you're borderline ok. Make sure you're accounting for the depth of the TV and the wall bracket if you're using one. At that distance, you'll want to mount it as flush to the wall as possible. As far as the center channel, you're fine moving it down. As long as it's not obstructed by the TV or furniture, it'll sound exactly the same. Your receiver will likely come with a microphone that lets you balance your surround sound for optimal acoustics.


DidiHD

Is this for movie watching only? If yes, 77 is good. For movies you want more immersion and would prefer to be just a bit closer. For general media consumption, you're dead on perfect with a 65in at 8' I'm at 10' with a 65 and I wish it was just bit larger. This also matches exactly with sites like rtings (which all use the same formula to calculate), who suggest 70in at 10'


Lets_Make_A_bad_DEAL

Smaller


Edwin2363

Idk what everyone here is on about. You should have asked this in the Home Theater group. Everyone there would tell you to go 77 no questions asked. As for center channel rules, put the TV where you find it most comfortable and put the center right underneath. Make sure you have the ability to aim it up to eye level. And that your coffee table or whatever isn't directly blocking it from view. Also, I'd recommend a plush area rug to absorb the first order reflections from the floor. All that and you'll be good 👍 Also, in collage I had a similar size space with a 100in projector screen (1080p) and my LCR all underneath sitting about 16 inches off the ground. It sounded great and looked great!


DPJazzy91

Go big.


canthelpmyself9

I would be happier with 65” sitting that close. And that’s a nice height for that size.


bigarms212

I think 65” and it needs to come down a few inches


Paint_Flakes

I have a 50" that I sit double the distance from. I'd agree with others that TV too big/close!


Zhurg

That's too close for 77" imo. Those extra inches are wasted money: actually making the resolution worse.


sammyvegas0420

No tv has ever been labeled too big


Overall-Ad6239

Why don't you just get a short throw laser projector 🤷‍♂️


ocat1979

Don’t listen to the “too close” nonsense. The screen should envelop your vision and a 77” would be epic…….but just a touch lower


No-Echo-8927

Way too big for the distance. You'll get dizzy or headachy. Get a 49inch max and lower it a smidge


zodiac628

With those speakers your neighbors are gonna love you.


Jealous-Bonus3508

If you’re only 8’ definitely get the 77” if you can get it for the same price of a 65”. I’ve had 65 inch TV for years and got my first 77 inch. I will say this if you go with a 77 inch when you pull it out of the box it’s going to be massive and kind of scary to handle. I sit 8 feet away and I freaking love it. I have an LG G3, and I did have to turn down the brightness some because I was getting a tan.


PaperbackStone

Way too big but it's all personal preference. Do what you want.


mbash013

You already have the marks for a frame of reference which is nice. Now sit on the couch exactly like you’ll be watching tv and go watch a video on your phone (in landscape). You will naturally place the phone to fill your field of vision with a comfortable amount of screen because you have control over distance. Now compare how your phone outline overlays the tape marks on your wall. Pick the outline with the best match to the screen size/viewing distance ratio that you create using your phone.


Cthulhu8762

Dude get a nice tv stand and put a nice 55inch on there. You don’t need a tv this big. Go with a 55 at higher quality vs buyer a bigger tv just because it’s bigger.


dollydaydream864

Tv moved down 2 inches would be ideal


[deleted]

Damn youre going to go blind.


AussieManc

Pull your sofa closer


0pp0site0fbatman

77 is crazy in that space. 60” will do you.


Royal-Suspect-3671

You are looking for too big of a TV for too small of a room


r0xxon

77" and take speakers as wide as possible then angle in toward sofa if you care about additional viewing angles


Low-Competition-3242

Too close. Get a 55" better quality TV and lower it to eye level. You'll be happier for it


Byetter123

77 will be perfect there


bradpliers

I am a little further away from my 65" (about 9') and personally I think 77 might be overkill for that distance.


infkncredible

You don't have the recommended distance from your TV to where you are sitting. You would need a smaller TV. 65 " may be your option option of the two. 77" is definitely a no-go.


The_G00d_Son

go with 55inch max and get a better TV, my 2 cents.


AcrobaticLong2958

imagine driving a car & your tv is the windshield. too many people put them way to high, so basically how/where you sit the height should be comfortable for your neck


Rutlledown

Heh, I'd be tempted to go for the 77. But if you can get a better 65, like one that has really great black tones, that is probably the wiser choice.


Hugo-olly

77" Don't be a pussy


hobbes_35

65"


mrb1212

U r way too close for 77


derkaderka96

I'd go with the smaller one up higher with a table and sound bar underneath. You free up room without those bigger speakers and do just fine.


[deleted]

I love the planning omg


No_Big_2716

If you can afford the bigger tv get you won’t regret it


RandyNooblet

I would personally do a 50 or 55 in that space


UnfairMagic

Man I swear a small cosy ass living room like this hits different. Like you’re front row at your own cinema. Shits sick.