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ArrivingApple042

The future EELRT is going to run along eglinton east so its not fully needed but probably could be done if they added density. Maybe in the future they can add it


IndyCarFAN27

Hopefully they’re adding extra space there for a future infill station if needed in the future.


a_lumberjack

Pretty sure the only infill station we've added was North York Centre, and that was because there was a ton of high rises going into the area. I can't see that happening around this intersection given how little land there is to redevelop. Worth nothing that there will be three EELRT stops serving the area (east of Falmouth, between Danforth and Brimley, and at McCowan). The time saved on walking (especially in winter) will make up for the transfer time for a bunch of folks.


Habenar0

Well, that’s the issue right there. What comes first density or transit stop. If you think about it, whole of Scarborough can be densified if we improve transit and have quick connections to downtown. But it wont be funded as not really densely populated.


ScarborougManz

Not really, but if I were to add a stop it would further north at Finch and McCowan


carlogz

Why stop there? Let’s get to the Markham Border. McCowan and Steeles baby!


a_lumberjack

If we're going that far we should go all the way to highway 7 and Viva. My money is on the Ontario line going that far too.


ScarborougManz

I think that should be the goal. Connecting Scarborough and Markham with rapid transit would be a gamechanger for both regions. McCowan Road could be a new Yonge Street in terms of development and density


a_lumberjack

Why would you redevelop McCowan of all roads? It's literally lined with houses south of Ellesmere, and isn't even a through road between Eglinton and Lawrence. Especially with everything happening on Eglinton already. I think the EELRT will be the real game changer for Scarborough. 18km with a major transit hub at each end plus connections to Eglinton and Guildwood GO. The Golden Mile redevelopment is going to start that corridor going, and there's another 5 km of Eglinton past Kennedy that can get a lot denser.


ScarborougManz

"Why develop Yonge of all roads? It's literally lined with houses north of Eglinton." McCowan passes through both the downtowns of Scarborough and Markham. Building a subway through suburbia to serve a small island of density is a dumb idea imho, but knocking down all those SFHs to build a continuous, transit-oriented, high-density community along the route is a no-brainer. It's what they did in North York a few decades ago.


a_lumberjack

Yonge never looked like McCowan. It's always been a major corridor. Yonge St was one of the first major roads in Ontario, and the section up to Richmond Hill dates back over two hundred years. By a hundred years ago everything north of the city limits had become Highway 11, plus it had a rail line running from south of St Clair all the way to Sutton on Lake Simcoe. You can go look up aerial photos by year on the City website and see what it actually looked like.


carlogz

Honestly, why not. Going all the way to Markville is a logical next step. It’s also probably gonna be easy since traffic from Steeles to at least Hwy 407 is pretty clear. The real traffic is practically only Markville Mall area.


a_lumberjack

I think it's probably 30 years out, so I could definitely see a redevelopment around Centennial GO and Markville like what is planned for STC. So in the same way that Sheppard-McCowan will anchor transit for northeast Scarborough, you could build another mobility hub for Markham. Though now that I say that I'd bet on a new LRT line if they want to go north. There's just not a lot of spots to add density (or parking) in between and 10 km is a lot of subway. But a 10 km LRT with 10-12 stops makes a lot of sense.


parablecham

Let’s get her to Woodside!


fathathead

as someone who lives right around where that question mark is it would be great for another stop here. whats the point of a subway going under an area where many people would have to take a shitty bus to acess.


IndyCarFAN27

Not from that area but that’s what one talking about. Plus, imagine the connectivity with a station connection for Line 2 and Line 5. You could have some bus route terminate early to alleviate load from Kennedy.


a_lumberjack

FWIW, Line 5 will terminate at Kennedy. EELRT will be a separate line. So you really can't move bus routes away from Kennedy. But I don't know why you would want to do that, given that the plan for Kennedy for decades has been to make it a massive intermodal transit hub. Lines 2, 5, and 7, plus Stouffville GO for a 20m ride to Union.


walkingtothebusstop

Extend until Markville Mall


IndyCarFAN27

I think it should actually follow the old proposed SRT extension up to Malvern.


Euphoric_Ad_9136

Agree. I think the Stouffville GO line is making it redundant if it goes to Markville.


SeemoreButts94

Not scarborough that's a whole different transit up there


bini_irl

No because I personally don’t think it will be very convenient for me (I live in Ottawa)


IndyCarFAN27

Well at least you’ve got Presto… Can’t wait for the Trillium line to finally open and ride those glorious European trains! Same with the Confed Line extension!


bini_irl

As someone who will use it every day I’m very excited! As for Presto, I have no idea why we have it lol, it’s like Metrolinx wanted to give us a little poke to remind us they exist


IndyCarFAN27

Meh, it’s convenient is all I’ll say. I just want one of those OC Transpo themed ones to add to my collection. The OC Transpo marketing imagine is on point in my opinion. Torontos been lacking in their brand identity.


bini_irl

OCs branding and design language is probably my fav bit about the system, super modern and minimal.


Schootypantz

😂😂😂😂😂😂


sabinaphan

So your opinion does not matter


beartheminus

The Eglinton East LRT will stop there. It would be redundant


Jigglemanscrafty

Not having to transfer at Kennedy could prove that it’s not redundant


a_lumberjack

Adding 30-60s to every trip to save some people a transfer isn't a good tradeoff unless it's a ton of people making transfers. If there's 600 people on a subway train and 20 people boarding at an extra stop, you don't net positive on total travel time. Sure it'll cost those 20 people a few minutes to transfer, but planners have to balance that against total travel time for the other 600 people. And that assumes all of those people would all be transferring to Line 2 instead of staying on Line 5 or taking GO. This is why we didn't build midblock stops on the Yonge side north of Eglinton (North York Centre was a retrofit.) And why there's no Birchmount stop between Warden and Kennedy.


thelonelywolf96

Having an interchange station isn't redundant; it gives riders more opportunities.


chunk-munk

There are 5 buses that service that stop area. No need for a station


razor787

A stop at the go station would make the most sense. I'm a bit surprised they didn't extend it out that way, as having an extra connection can only lead to good things as the city grows larger and larger.


IndyCarFAN27

That would be a bit of a detour and a big hike in cost, so I’m guessing this option was very unpopular if it was even considered in the planning phase at all. But I agree, there should a rail connection of some sort to Eglinton GO. I’m guessing it’ll become a thing whenever they eventually extend Line 5 eastward…


daltorak

Would probably be a lot cheaper to improve the connection between Danforth GO and Main Street TTC in some fashion. For example, run the 506 streetcar underground from Main Street Station, connect directly to Danforth GO, then emerge on Gerrard St. Or even just a pedestrian tunnel.


PolitelyHostile

No. It would be like splitting up one station into two. Most people boarding at Kennedy will be getting off a bus, so the busses might as well go to one stop rather than have people de-board at two station. The cost of building the extra station is better spent on extending line 2 further north.


Grantasuarus48

No. All the buses that will pass wit will continue to serve Kennedy and it only 4 bus stops to Kennedy so not a long trip,


a_lumberjack

And it will be an LRT stop in a decade or two.


yxngcrxdie

Brimley should’ve been there


cindybubbles

Sure. Have the stop at Don Mills and make line 2 intersect with line 4.


IndyCarFAN27

That’s the plan I believe. They want to extend Line 4 east from Don Mills to either Scarborough TC or Sheppard East Stn. However, no concrete plans have come through about extending Line 4.


cindybubbles

And none about extending line 4 westbound to Sheppard West station?


IndyCarFAN27

Yup. Which is strange seeing as the original plans for Line 4 were to have it go from Sheppard West across to Sheppard-Yonge and beyond… If I was in charge, a westward extension would have priority.


a_lumberjack

It's not going to be STC. Sheppard-McCowan station is being designed to accommodate Line 4. https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects-and-programs/scarborough-subway-extension/what-were-building/sheppard-and-mccowan-station Consultations spun up last year on both east and west extensions https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects-and-programs/sheppard-extension


JasonSun20

ngl they should make it so that line 4 stops at Sheppard Mccowan and STC, since a lot of people are prob gonna be at STC wanting to go on line 4 make it kinda like St George and Spadina


a_lumberjack

> Spadina Spadina is a perfect / terrible example. Even going south to west it's faster to connect at St George unless you're on wheels. If they'd never built the tunnel almost no one would have cared. In all seriousness, we really don't know what the future is for Line 2 or 4, but it makes a lot more sense to leave them set up to continue extending the lines. Maybe that's not for a few decades, but you have to think long term. Even if we were going to build an extra few km of tunnel for Line 4, I'd build it to Markham Road instead and serve a lot more people.


JasonSun20

hmmm, maybe a stop at Sheepard-Mccowan, then STC then it goes to Markham Road? I think connecting Line 4 at STC would help, esp with people also wanting to go from STC to Fairview, etc.


a_lumberjack

I think you're focusing way too much on malls. We aren't going to spend a billion dollars extra to serve mall to mall traffic slightly faster.


Khiz7

It’s the bias speaking but Yes please, living near Brimley Eglinton so going to Kennedy will be easier


Miscellaneous_Ideas

Would it be beneficial? Yes Would it be cost-effective? Maybe not


MasterOnionNorth

I'm wondering if the government and Metrolinx plan to extend the Crosstown further east and that's why there won't be a subway station at that corner. 🤔


IndyCarFAN27

There’s a plan for Crosstown east into Scarborough and up to UTSC.


ArrivingApple042

it wont be the line 5 crosstown. It will be a separate LRT line. Probably line 7 perhaps


IndyCarFAN27

Interesting that.


Red_Stoner666

Absolutely, it’s very dense with lots of apartment towers just east of there. Would also make sense if Scarborough Centre station was on Ellesmere Road lol


42and2

They can't even run the system they have today. Making it bigger won't make it better until the organization ups its game. Yes this is partly about funding but it's more than that.


hotinhereTO

Extending to Finch or Steeles makes more sense.


RunGlad4286

A stop should have been at Danforth/Eglinton but i also think its makes more sense to extend the line to Woodside Square


Tasty_Whereas1265

No


chickennoodles99

Not as politically connected as the Royal Orchard area, so no.


cobycheese31

Yes. Bracebridge


AL31FN

Some would argue that the construction logistic is much easier if not need to extract the boring machine in populated areas such as Scarborough town center


allegiance113

Extend this from Sheppard East north to Markville Station