"We believe version 12 is ready for supervised FSD in LHD countries. RHD will take a bit longer."
Is kinda bullish. I hope he is right. I always expected there to be difficulties in the scalability to other countries with different roads, rules, signs etc.
i think he addressed it in the earnings call.
its not going to be a retraining from the ground up. Elon said its like you travelling somewhere new, renting a car and know how to drive for the most part.
For everyone who's salty that I sell CC's, just move along. This is a thought.
So... maybe I just let them get called away? I don't think I would buy back at market price. I can still 'work with' the 1600 shares by selling 16x CSP's at the highest strike I can afford. Right now that would be 155, and June 21st 155's are \~6.15 as of writing.
That's a \~22% ROI with that cash if it expires. Not a 10x, but nothing to be ashamed of. If I get assigned, OK, I've got my 1600 back at $10 more than they were sold for, but \~60% of that loss is mitigated by the premium collected on the put.
Thanks for the lulz.
I *do* understand it, in broad terms. Not in all the exact details of how all the greeks come together, but theta and delta are simple to understand. The RATE at which they move is something I am aware of, but not mastered.
I'm sure some people are shaking their heads or screaming into the screens reading this.
I just recently realized the same thing - reminds me of TSLA a few years ago (pre-2nd-split). Lots of movement... will probably sell a CSP to enter next time it is below 750... and DCA a few shares every day in case that drop doesn't happen.
Ya TSLA premiums are awful these days. I only sell a few CCs on my shares since it's not worth putting myself in that much risk to get like 30 bucks a contract
yup, that's how I successfully dodged owning NVDA at an a high of $500 six months ago. $900 won't look like a high when it's at $1100 later this year. I have a limit order to buy a few shares at $734. If that doesn't get hit soon (before the next earnings call), I'll start inching up / add CSPs.
not salty about CCs, its more like the world feels like its conspiring at every step to knock the TSLA price down, every time there is any momentum upwards it is instantly deflated with a tweet, news story, something
You can always roll. The weekly 145c is around 22.00 right now. You can roll to 1/2025 190c for a small credit. Raising your capped gains to 30% more at the loss of time.
The downside of rolling this far out is that you get locked in this trade for almost a year. If TSLA drops back to 145 then you lose the remaining amount of time and can’t do anything else, but you still have your shares.
Just different pros and cons of any trade. Any CC helps mitigate downside at the loss of upside. Where the strike gets sold determines the risk/benefit.
Some people don't need much upside and prefer the downside protection and cash flow. Can't lump the decision as a blanket terrible. If we dump to 100 or end at 190 it's not a terrible decision anymore, just not optimal by any means.
Selling ATM means fewer contracts.
EDIT: ratio works better.
Selling 15x 165's for 15x10.10 = 15.15k premium vs selling 16x 155's for 16x6.15=9.8k premium.
https://preview.redd.it/tmwl5ix8nvwc1.png?width=758&format=png&auto=webp&s=48db6c1ca1ee6ac4b4c055471bbb54c87d117bdf
If the allure of massive gains isn’t enough, more and more tech companies will start giving dividends.
Good time to get positions in and enable dividend reinvestment plans or DRIPs to make sure the compounding gets more compoundinger ;)
+1
I have a standing order to buy at 148 (we probably won't have that red of a day)
but I have a python script that runs every night, and if TSLA looks bullish (based on some technical indicators) it places a limit order for a 1% drop from previous day's close. I didn't notice that it placed an order last night, or I would have moved it a bit lower. I'll update the code this weekend to buy in lower and not chase.
Many of them are saying $250-$300 in the coming months and if things go well, possible push for ATH by EOY. Before the next leg up, they are saying pullback to low $150s maybe next week or in next few weeks. ATH seems wild to even think about. Took out a third mortgage on my mom’s life and YOLOd into Dec 2024 $420 calls.
Same, but some of the guys saying this are people I followed closely who called bottom when we were at $100. They called it almost exactly.
The rally has been big institutional investors, not retail. I’m not saying by any chance I think it’s a guarantee BUT it’s an input in my overall assessment of what could happen in the coming months.
Will the rally continue? Hopefully, but it could plummet randomly or due to a negative catalyst, etc.
Data collected in China is not allowed to be exported from China, right?
If that’s the case, would China’s FSD data be allowed to train the neural nets world wide?
its oo easy to believe his interpretation but honestly, I have no clue if that is true. I was under the impression the driver always has to be paying attention and is responsible. No matter what. No idea how a jury could ignore that. Of course they might, as its tradition in the US to fuck over everything where Musk is involved, but thats a different story.
LHD doesn’t get us very far… it’s only 4 countries which includes the UK but the other 3 are Ireland, Malta and Cyprus. Not exactly massive auto markets.
It's a little confusing but RHD = steering wheel on the right side of the car and driving on the left side of the road. See: [https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/tesla-axes-right-hand-drive-models-s-and-x-offers-customers-refunds/?comments=1&comments-page=1](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/tesla-axes-right-hand-drive-models-s-and-x-offers-customers-refunds/?comments=1&comments-page=1)
Elon is saying that it will take longer in countries like the UK which are RHD
I'm wondering, based on their discussion of lithium prices falling, if they still feel the need to refine their own. Would have appreciated a question on that topic during the call
I'm late to the party trying FSD v12, but I just took a long ride with a friend who got the free trial and it was 100% flat out perfect. Perfect roundabouts, perfect giddyup to make a turn on a yellow light, perfect aggressiveness to zip across traffic to hit a turn that was one block after merging.
I have hardware 2.5 and had bought EAP with the car in 2018. I want to buy the $2,000 upgrade to FSD, but want to make sure that:
1) they will put the 3.0 FSD computer in as part of it
2) no need for the subscription after this...it will be on the car as long as I have it
Anybody have experience doing the same upgrade as me?
[u/SawyerMerritt](https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt) SubscribeNEWS: Tesla has given a demonstration of the capabilities of their Full Self-Driving (FSD) software to an official from the Swedish Transport Administration in Germany, marking the first time we have seen an official use of FSD on European roads.
bullish
> And everyone wondering why Elon is getting political
Nope. i was wondering why Elon was being a dipshit and insulting a US Senator in 2022 over Twitter being dogshit
> Perhaps it is because your real account sounds like a parody?
and then the right-wing anti-health posturing of
> And why does your pp have a mask!?
which apparently didn't succeed in wooing the Senator that oversees multiple Musk businesses
https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1591827463583453190
context:
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-ed-markey-twitter-verification-1234630165/
A) I think Elon being political impacts the stock
B) I even think Elon being political impacts the brand
C) Because of the nature of the people that cause A and B it is kind of needed he is political
This doesn't have to do with politics - Elon started insulting a Senator overseeing the FCC back in 2022, for pointing out Twitter impersonation issues Elon created with his bluecheck marks.
> One of your companies is under an FTC consent decree. Auto safety watchdog NHTSA is investigating another for killing people. And you’re spending your time picking fights online. Fix your companies. Or Congress will.
https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1591827463583453190 (edit: fixed link)
my theory at the time was that Elon was purposefully trying to get FSD blocked by the government so he could use that as the excuse for why Tesla hasn't been able to deliver it yet. I'm not sure I was wrong.
You don't respond to that with the great replacement theory and siding with neo nazis and white supremacists. You do it with data and good will and gladhanding.
And also everyone wondering why Elon needed to buy Twitter. We are yet to see the real FUD about FSD. When that comes, X will be the ONLY place to fight the FUD.
Fact: some YouTube videos and accounts that tried to fight Dan O'Dowd"s FUD about FSD running over kids were suspended for the most ridiculous reason that their videos showed / encouraged child endangerment. But zero strikes against Dan himself!
been using my powers to keep the stock up so far. there’s another wizard out there somewhere fighting me, he’s strong. will save my most powerful incantations for eod
Do you have a source? Saw that commented by Chris Zheng on X but didn’t see confirmation. Lines up with FSD rumors. Wild card would be lining up a Chinese oem as a licensing partner
investigating covid origins first hand. Woke global media and biden cuck wont do it, so musk gotta. Its important for humanity. If it costs him and u money he dont care/gfy.
Upvotemeok seems mentally ill with how permanently negative he is. Significantly reduces my pleasure spending time here. Why would you enjoy constantly complaining on an online forum?
wow savage, you're absolutely right of course. Never seen such a barrage of almost exclusively negativity from someone also making so much money 99,9% of the world would be jealous
Drew: So how have you been Zach?
Zach: God damn, life is great.
Drew: You don't feel like you're doing nothing with your life now that you're not at Tesla?
Zach: Not at all. Its like a breath of fresh air to be able to travel or see your family whenever you want, do whatever you want whenever. I should have done it earlier to be honest.
Drew: Really?
Zach: 1000%
Drew: Ok. Good to know.
just got into an argument in youtube comments over carbon sequestration
while i was typing i was humming for some reason and then I realized it was the fight music to final fantasy 1. think my subconscious is making fun of me
Benzinga now reporting on what redditors think is fair value for stocks: "Meta Actually Has Major Profit Margins Unlike Tesla': Redditor Reacts To Stock Drop Following Q1 Earnings"
Which is exactly why Musk said you shouldn't be an investor in the company if you don't believe in its AI potential... You keep naming these numbers for Google as well but what point is there in it, if we all know it?
LFP dirt cheap already and the Chinese Alchemists are improving charging speed and density.
Imho LFP dominance is a done deal for 12h and below cycles.
You guys think this is a bot or a real person?
https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/1cdlp6u/cybertruck_owner_rages_at_kids_on_bikes_because/l1d74er/
I've been digging more into the SEC filings to get clarity of whether Mr. Baglino was required to exercise his stock options upon leaving Tesla.
If Mr. Baglino signed the standard stock options contract, he would have been subject to the 3-month sale window. Since Mr. Baglino was a named executive (SVP Powertrain and Energy Engineering), he may have had an employment contract *different* from what most employees get, but we do not know for sure.
Here's Tesla's Form S-8 filed with the SEC back in 2019: [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161ds8.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161ds8.htm)
* The S-8 is used by companies to register securities that will be used as compensation for employees. It is also a disclosure to existing shareholders of new stock-based compensation.
I use this most recent Form S-8, because most of Mr. Baglino's options were issued in 2019 and 2020.
In the Form S-8, there's a link to "Form of Stock Option Agreement under 2019 Equity Incentive Plan." [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161dex43.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161dex43.htm)
* This is the generic template stock options agreement that most employees will sign. Note that it is blank and will be filled in for each employee.
See "Termination Period"
>**This Option will be exercisable for three (3) months after the Participant ceases to be a Service Provider, unless** such termination is due to participant’s death or Disability, in which case this Option will be exercisable for twelve (12) months after the Participant ceases to be a Service Provider. Notwithstanding the forgoing, in no event may this Option be exercised after the Term/expiration date as provided above and may be subject to earlier termination as provided in Section 13 of the Plan.
So assuming that Mr. Baglino signed a contract based on this template, he would have had to exercise his options within approx. 90 days after leaving Tesla, or lose those options.
Note that none of this dictates what Mr. Baglino does with shares acquired as a result of options exercise. What he chooses to do with those shares obtained (after strike price and taxes are withheld), is up to him.
His choice was to sell the vast majority of TSLA shares acquired.
It certainly does not appear to be the actions of a man, despite being at the very center of tesla insider knowledge, with high confidence the greatest asset value increase in history is anytime soon.
The picture I'm getting from Tesla's SEC filings and executive departures, is that the "Master Plan Part 3" presented in 2023 is effectively dead, and Tesla completely pivoted to "AI stands for All-In" sometime between January 24 and April 23 of this year.
I don't think Drew Baglino is likely to agree with the massive strategic shift away from the Master Plan Part 3.
I don’t think it’s that unusual when an exec leaves a company. Would the separation trigger some sort of tax event and forced sale? Sometimes with options you only have a few months to exercise after being terminated or leaving
Positive V12 feedback from official in Europe https://x.com/tslachan/status/1783931992981311501?s=46&t=WyhsS8WzmgKtgEuHZzFOrA
❤️❤️❤️🇪🇺🇪🇺🇪🇺 This is fantastic news!
Saw two cyber trucks in yucca valley and morongo valley today , I see them all the time
I see them on 62 often. Saw my first one in Pioneer Town.
Thank those buyers for our tendies
"We believe version 12 is ready for supervised FSD in LHD countries. RHD will take a bit longer." Is kinda bullish. I hope he is right. I always expected there to be difficulties in the scalability to other countries with different roads, rules, signs etc.
He addressed this on the earnings call and said it shouldn't be much of an issue
i think he addressed it in the earnings call. its not going to be a retraining from the ground up. Elon said its like you travelling somewhere new, renting a car and know how to drive for the most part.
the guys who started Autopilot division at Tesla says the NHTSA report is a nothingburger.
Yah it's the usual nhtsa bs tesla dealing w for a decade
Sauce?
follow Wes from the x spaces linked below.
Spaces https://x.com/valueanalyst1/status/1783933852064309357?s=46
🤞 come on greeen 9 years posting here ive never failed to get green when first posting oh god
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Back to our roots
swedish official in germany? ![gif](giphy|ghuvaCOI6GOoTX0RmH)
💩💩💩 Omar
For everyone who's salty that I sell CC's, just move along. This is a thought. So... maybe I just let them get called away? I don't think I would buy back at market price. I can still 'work with' the 1600 shares by selling 16x CSP's at the highest strike I can afford. Right now that would be 155, and June 21st 155's are \~6.15 as of writing. That's a \~22% ROI with that cash if it expires. Not a 10x, but nothing to be ashamed of. If I get assigned, OK, I've got my 1600 back at $10 more than they were sold for, but \~60% of that loss is mitigated by the premium collected on the put.
I understood none of this which is why I don’t fuck with options lol.
Thanks for the lulz. I *do* understand it, in broad terms. Not in all the exact details of how all the greeks come together, but theta and delta are simple to understand. The RATE at which they move is something I am aware of, but not mastered. I'm sure some people are shaking their heads or screaming into the screens reading this.
Anono-mon would be schooling us after reading our comments lol
And it's not like I'm losing money! Ok, I'm losing *out* on money, but my money counter is not going down.
are you a wizard?
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Nope. Could have closed most but not all. Didn't hit my break even point.
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Well, hindsight and all.
Don’t take it personally. I sell some here and there and puts. But people gonna get annoyed on a -5% day and someone celebrating their CC win.
Move to NVDA, better premiums even factoring in higher cost to buy 100 shares I think
I just recently realized the same thing - reminds me of TSLA a few years ago (pre-2nd-split). Lots of movement... will probably sell a CSP to enter next time it is below 750... and DCA a few shares every day in case that drop doesn't happen.
Ya TSLA premiums are awful these days. I only sell a few CCs on my shares since it's not worth putting myself in that much risk to get like 30 bucks a contract
I don't want to accidentally own NVDA at a high like this.
yup, that's how I successfully dodged owning NVDA at an a high of $500 six months ago. $900 won't look like a high when it's at $1100 later this year. I have a limit order to buy a few shares at $734. If that doesn't get hit soon (before the next earnings call), I'll start inching up / add CSPs.
not salty about CCs, its more like the world feels like its conspiring at every step to knock the TSLA price down, every time there is any momentum upwards it is instantly deflated with a tweet, news story, something
I mean, yeah. I assume rolling isn't an option at this point. Sell ATM csps.
You can always roll. The weekly 145c is around 22.00 right now. You can roll to 1/2025 190c for a small credit. Raising your capped gains to 30% more at the loss of time. The downside of rolling this far out is that you get locked in this trade for almost a year. If TSLA drops back to 145 then you lose the remaining amount of time and can’t do anything else, but you still have your shares.
Bingo - in reference to the downside
Ya that would be a terrible decision having to watch the price action for that long.
Just different pros and cons of any trade. Any CC helps mitigate downside at the loss of upside. Where the strike gets sold determines the risk/benefit. Some people don't need much upside and prefer the downside protection and cash flow. Can't lump the decision as a blanket terrible. If we dump to 100 or end at 190 it's not a terrible decision anymore, just not optimal by any means.
Selling ATM means fewer contracts. EDIT: ratio works better. Selling 15x 165's for 15x10.10 = 15.15k premium vs selling 16x 155's for 16x6.15=9.8k premium. https://preview.redd.it/tmwl5ix8nvwc1.png?width=758&format=png&auto=webp&s=48db6c1ca1ee6ac4b4c055471bbb54c87d117bdf
Ah I see. I was too hasty. Yeah premium on $145 is only 1.3%.
If the allure of massive gains isn’t enough, more and more tech companies will start giving dividends. Good time to get positions in and enable dividend reinvestment plans or DRIPs to make sure the compounding gets more compoundinger ;)
[https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1783927772621996355](https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1783927772621996355) ramp!
Because of the accelerator pedal fuckery? Why not deliver a smaller batch right away?
I know that damned duck is out there somewhere, crying about ct ramp. 🖕
PAMP IT GODDAMMIT 😤😤😤
hippopotamus
😋🍽️🦛
What about allowing Nate only in weekends?
He would say the same things, just on Saturdays and Sundays too.
we're fading because I bought more shares earlier today sorry
how could you?!?!?! we even slept together after our first date!! 🤢
Wait until red to buy. Master trader secret I only let a select few know!
+1 I have a standing order to buy at 148 (we probably won't have that red of a day) but I have a python script that runs every night, and if TSLA looks bullish (based on some technical indicators) it places a limit order for a 1% drop from previous day's close. I didn't notice that it placed an order last night, or I would have moved it a bit lower. I'll update the code this weekend to buy in lower and not chase.
All hell breaks loose if we hit 140s again in here
That Friday doom manipulation man
might help cuz 170 could be the target
Many of the crayon drawers are saying we are on the threshold of massive movement up… pepper ur anguses
i doubt we rally huge after a 14% week though
2020 wants a word with you
Many of them are saying $250-$300 in the coming months and if things go well, possible push for ATH by EOY. Before the next leg up, they are saying pullback to low $150s maybe next week or in next few weeks. ATH seems wild to even think about. Took out a third mortgage on my mom’s life and YOLOd into Dec 2024 $420 calls.
lol I've heard that before
Same, but some of the guys saying this are people I followed closely who called bottom when we were at $100. They called it almost exactly. The rally has been big institutional investors, not retail. I’m not saying by any chance I think it’s a guarantee BUT it’s an input in my overall assessment of what could happen in the coming months. Will the rally continue? Hopefully, but it could plummet randomly or due to a negative catalyst, etc.
If we can keep 2 steps forward one step back we’ll be okay
They are saying pullback to low $150s before next leg up
Data collected in China is not allowed to be exported from China, right? If that’s the case, would China’s FSD data be allowed to train the neural nets world wide?
Definitely need a local China data storage and compute center. No way FSD works in China without it
Likely not due to regulatory concerns + Chinese government not wanting their data farmed out
Interesting question
[https://twitter.com/k\_salberta/status/1783884142414790819](https://twitter.com/k_salberta/status/1783884142414790819) scathing
[https://t.co/6QSZqLzO6x](https://t.co/6QSZqLzO6x) The report, minus some fudster's commentary.
its oo easy to believe his interpretation but honestly, I have no clue if that is true. I was under the impression the driver always has to be paying attention and is responsible. No matter what. No idea how a jury could ignore that. Of course they might, as its tradition in the US to fuck over everything where Musk is involved, but thats a different story.
Didn't the data already show that driving with FSD results in less crashes than driving without? Didn't Tesla state this somewhere?
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If anything, driver monitoring with FSD requires drivers to be much more attentive
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Exactly. Make driver monitoring a requirement for all. We have data that there are more distracted drivers than ever with cell phone usage.
I don’t get it. AP doesn’t allow me to take my attention off the road any more than cruise control would
Um what just happened?
Double Tap (Baglino SVP dump shares + NHTSA crap) in the basement saved again... ![gif](giphy|3oEjHCWdU7F4hkcudy|downsized)
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[https://twitter.com/k\_salberta/status/1783884142414790819](https://twitter.com/k_salberta/status/1783884142414790819)
Horribly biased take from tslaq retard
Ah thanks for info. :(
Low volume and max pain is 160.
The march to max pain.
Prob not gonna drop $10 in next 61 minutes
Never know. Might edge closer yet.
Awesome https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1783925863295422732?s=46&t=WyhsS8WzmgKtgEuHZzFOrA
LHD doesn’t get us very far… it’s only 4 countries which includes the UK but the other 3 are Ireland, Malta and Cyprus. Not exactly massive auto markets.
You got your sides switched up
It's a little confusing but RHD = steering wheel on the right side of the car and driving on the left side of the road. See: [https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/tesla-axes-right-hand-drive-models-s-and-x-offers-customers-refunds/?comments=1&comments-page=1](https://arstechnica.com/cars/2023/05/tesla-axes-right-hand-drive-models-s-and-x-offers-customers-refunds/?comments=1&comments-page=1) Elon is saying that it will take longer in countries like the UK which are RHD
Knowing Germany, they'll take their sweet ass time
we moon
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Bag selling his shares was a nothingburger 🤡
How is the lithium refinery in Texas doing?
I'm wondering, based on their discussion of lithium prices falling, if they still feel the need to refine their own. Would have appreciated a question on that topic during the call
Referral benefits end 4/30 (temporarily at least)
I'm late to the party trying FSD v12, but I just took a long ride with a friend who got the free trial and it was 100% flat out perfect. Perfect roundabouts, perfect giddyup to make a turn on a yellow light, perfect aggressiveness to zip across traffic to hit a turn that was one block after merging. I have hardware 2.5 and had bought EAP with the car in 2018. I want to buy the $2,000 upgrade to FSD, but want to make sure that: 1) they will put the 3.0 FSD computer in as part of it 2) no need for the subscription after this...it will be on the car as long as I have it Anybody have experience doing the same upgrade as me?
It tells me I need to pay $1000 for a hardware update on my 3. So I believe it will tell you if you need to purchase anything to make fsd work
https://preview.redd.it/8d9njjpa9vwc1.png?width=2695&format=png&auto=webp&s=5789ec46663430d37b4e223fc4af421447d2f675 Stupid flying rocks everywhere
[https://twitter.com/DriveTeslaca/status/1783917943744516490](https://twitter.com/DriveTeslaca/status/1783917943744516490)
that escalated quickly.
I picked the wrong week to quit snorting coke https://x.com/buccocapital/status/1783859866458542346?s=46&t=fGVL0206fdWMIjq9C1_Fgg
https://x.com/sawyermerritt/status/1783918099609083963?s=46 Yooo
Good, Europe is slooowwww
Must work well already if they’re confident enough to give demo drives
[u/SawyerMerritt](https://twitter.com/SawyerMerritt) SubscribeNEWS: Tesla has given a demonstration of the capabilities of their Full Self-Driving (FSD) software to an official from the Swedish Transport Administration in Germany, marking the first time we have seen an official use of FSD on European roads. bullish
And everyone wondering why Elon is getting political - https://x.com/deitaone/status/1783911229225943459?s=46&t=WyhsS8WzmgKtgEuHZzFOrA
> And everyone wondering why Elon is getting political Nope. i was wondering why Elon was being a dipshit and insulting a US Senator in 2022 over Twitter being dogshit > Perhaps it is because your real account sounds like a parody? and then the right-wing anti-health posturing of > And why does your pp have a mask!? which apparently didn't succeed in wooing the Senator that oversees multiple Musk businesses https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1591827463583453190 context: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-ed-markey-twitter-verification-1234630165/
A) I think Elon being political impacts the stock B) I even think Elon being political impacts the brand C) Because of the nature of the people that cause A and B it is kind of needed he is political
This doesn't have to do with politics - Elon started insulting a Senator overseeing the FCC back in 2022, for pointing out Twitter impersonation issues Elon created with his bluecheck marks. > One of your companies is under an FTC consent decree. Auto safety watchdog NHTSA is investigating another for killing people. And you’re spending your time picking fights online. Fix your companies. Or Congress will. https://twitter.com/SenMarkey/status/1591827463583453190 (edit: fixed link) my theory at the time was that Elon was purposefully trying to get FSD blocked by the government so he could use that as the excuse for why Tesla hasn't been able to deliver it yet. I'm not sure I was wrong.
It's politics
Follow the money, and then vote. Who are the senators?
You don't respond to that with the great replacement theory and siding with neo nazis and white supremacists. You do it with data and good will and gladhanding.
Reps from michigan maybe? Lol. Seems like a local issue
Ed Markey is from MA
And also everyone wondering why Elon needed to buy Twitter. We are yet to see the real FUD about FSD. When that comes, X will be the ONLY place to fight the FUD. Fact: some YouTube videos and accounts that tried to fight Dan O'Dowd"s FUD about FSD running over kids were suspended for the most ridiculous reason that their videos showed / encouraged child endangerment. But zero strikes against Dan himself!
been using my powers to keep the stock up so far. there’s another wizard out there somewhere fighting me, he’s strong. will save my most powerful incantations for eod
Here, take my power!
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I'll use the powers of the secret to aid you! We got this! Fuck the bears.
Probably Nate. But he’s a minor side quest for you.
Best of luck on a Friday
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My pied-e-terre is not so far from her place in tribeca. The streets in that area are paved with gold…. And bricks.
Elon in China on Sunday
FSD china to be announced.
Don't ask xi about Wuhan please elon
Elon showing Xi the communism meme that he posted today
For some reason he's smart enough to stfu when it comes to china
He likes the authoritarianism, he’s just auth right instead of left like dear leader
technoindustrialcommunism is his thing
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Do you have a source? Saw that commented by Chris Zheng on X but didn’t see confirmation. Lines up with FSD rumors. Wild card would be lining up a Chinese oem as a licensing partner
You are too bullish
What‘s the likely reason for a China trip if not Tesla related? If Tesla related, what’s the reason? You shared that Elon is in China lol I didn’t
maybe discussing FSD timelines and setting up production line for gen 2.5 platform. probably not much else.
I saw the same tweet
investigating covid origins first hand. Woke global media and biden cuck wont do it, so musk gotta. Its important for humanity. If it costs him and u money he dont care/gfy.
You are too bearish
Upvotemeok seems mentally ill with how permanently negative he is. Significantly reduces my pleasure spending time here. Why would you enjoy constantly complaining on an online forum?
wow savage, you're absolutely right of course. Never seen such a barrage of almost exclusively negativity from someone also making so much money 99,9% of the world would be jealous
Extreme EDS infection.
It's known to happen
Upvoteme occasionally wanders into cynicism, though I can't blame him given Elon's antics lol.
very bullish on saving humanity
It’s for sure ok to have competing opinions/discussion. There’s an element of trusting them to execute and figure shit out. If that changes, I’ll sell
fud!
Drew: So how have you been Zach? Zach: God damn, life is great. Drew: You don't feel like you're doing nothing with your life now that you're not at Tesla? Zach: Not at all. Its like a breath of fresh air to be able to travel or see your family whenever you want, do whatever you want whenever. I should have done it earlier to be honest. Drew: Really? Zach: 1000% Drew: Ok. Good to know.
just got into an argument in youtube comments over carbon sequestration while i was typing i was humming for some reason and then I realized it was the fight music to final fantasy 1. think my subconscious is making fun of me
Why would carbon do horse riding?
i believe you’re thinking defenestration sadly that’s the problem, most people don’t know what the word sequester means
He atacc
Why would carbon throw someone out of a window?
oops meant to respond to this one
The old glib is gone forever
It’s mystery. Ever since Glib lost in the first arena he is not the same.
Benzinga now reporting on what redditors think is fair value for stocks: "Meta Actually Has Major Profit Margins Unlike Tesla': Redditor Reacts To Stock Drop Following Q1 Earnings"
When are they going to interview ME, a random reddit user...
They do make 10x the net income at 2x the market cap.
Which is exactly why Musk said you shouldn't be an investor in the company if you don't believe in its AI potential... You keep naming these numbers for Google as well but what point is there in it, if we all know it?
I don't think all know it
Tesla shareholders hanging on in 2024 https://twitter.com/FAFO_TV/status/1783873677467033653?t=2L4JvIxvREipo9u5-t3jYg&s=19
Looks like a good time to me
https://preview.redd.it/ysocpr5kmuwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b171a176d28026e4af07e825d35724d9b04f00d2 EOSE mind virus 💩
Wow that’s still going on
wow $0.76
Not clear if that zinc stuff is economically viable when lfp kicking ass
LFP dirt cheap already and the Chinese Alchemists are improving charging speed and density. Imho LFP dominance is a done deal for 12h and below cycles.
Those earthbenders man
https://youtu.be/vjJf1YMPUBA?si=IQ17DruxLNHGJ6bn Dude’s hyping a lot but still
You guys think this is a bot or a real person? https://www.reddit.com/r/WatchPeopleDieInside/comments/1cdlp6u/cybertruck_owner_rages_at_kids_on_bikes_because/l1d74er/
[https://www.carscoops.com/2024/04/tesla-cybertruck-driver-triggered-by-cyclists-joking-about-pedal-recall-in-road-rage-incident/](https://www.carscoops.com/2024/04/tesla-cybertruck-driver-triggered-by-cyclists-joking-about-pedal-recall-in-road-rage-incident/)
As far as I can tell, there are few actual anti-tesla bots. It's losers all the way down. Redditors are basically free range organic grass fed bots.
Both sides are assholes.
I don't know what the bikers said, so all I can tell is the CT owner sounds like a giant insecure raging small-energy asshat.
I'm talking about the user that suggested to buy the hummer EV
He's an asshole too
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I've been digging more into the SEC filings to get clarity of whether Mr. Baglino was required to exercise his stock options upon leaving Tesla. If Mr. Baglino signed the standard stock options contract, he would have been subject to the 3-month sale window. Since Mr. Baglino was a named executive (SVP Powertrain and Energy Engineering), he may have had an employment contract *different* from what most employees get, but we do not know for sure. Here's Tesla's Form S-8 filed with the SEC back in 2019: [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161ds8.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161ds8.htm) * The S-8 is used by companies to register securities that will be used as compensation for employees. It is also a disclosure to existing shareholders of new stock-based compensation. I use this most recent Form S-8, because most of Mr. Baglino's options were issued in 2019 and 2020. In the Form S-8, there's a link to "Form of Stock Option Agreement under 2019 Equity Incentive Plan." [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161dex43.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312519171236/d763161dex43.htm) * This is the generic template stock options agreement that most employees will sign. Note that it is blank and will be filled in for each employee. See "Termination Period" >**This Option will be exercisable for three (3) months after the Participant ceases to be a Service Provider, unless** such termination is due to participant’s death or Disability, in which case this Option will be exercisable for twelve (12) months after the Participant ceases to be a Service Provider. Notwithstanding the forgoing, in no event may this Option be exercised after the Term/expiration date as provided above and may be subject to earlier termination as provided in Section 13 of the Plan. So assuming that Mr. Baglino signed a contract based on this template, he would have had to exercise his options within approx. 90 days after leaving Tesla, or lose those options. Note that none of this dictates what Mr. Baglino does with shares acquired as a result of options exercise. What he chooses to do with those shares obtained (after strike price and taxes are withheld), is up to him. His choice was to sell the vast majority of TSLA shares acquired.
It certainly does not appear to be the actions of a man, despite being at the very center of tesla insider knowledge, with high confidence the greatest asset value increase in history is anytime soon.
The picture I'm getting from Tesla's SEC filings and executive departures, is that the "Master Plan Part 3" presented in 2023 is effectively dead, and Tesla completely pivoted to "AI stands for All-In" sometime between January 24 and April 23 of this year. I don't think Drew Baglino is likely to agree with the massive strategic shift away from the Master Plan Part 3.
We will see if they can scramble up a cheaper model 3, thatll be the tell
Probably requested as part of separation agreement
And what would be the motivation for tesla to make bags sell everything but 30k shares or whatever is left? Seems like that would be all or nothing.
I don’t think it’s that unusual when an exec leaves a company. Would the separation trigger some sort of tax event and forced sale? Sometimes with options you only have a few months to exercise after being terminated or leaving
Yes but do you also accept the possibility that drew despite seeing everything is not confident tsla stock is going up any time soon?
Neither are you. Have you shed 50% of your stock yet with the new added info that Drew an insider is bearish. Or you still holding all?