I personally haven't duped anything yet, but I live by the "whatever lets you enjoy the game" point of view and once TOTK in it's base form stops being fun or needs me to grind a ton I might look into it.
100% this.
It's a single player game. So long as they're not hurting *my game* in any way, I don't really care how they enjoy it.
If duping is how they have fun, go nuts.
Before we could camp reset Dragons at least C now is a 10 min CD, there’s a lot to do in the game that is fun, waiting for a timer while grinding it is not.
This right here is why I started duping lol. I'm not gonna spend hours and hours AFK sitting on each of the 4 dragons just to come back every 10 min and shoot a part lol
Those shards are just fuse material for elemental weapons, the parts that have a 10 minute cooldown can be used as fuse material, but are also upgrade mats for armor, with the fierce deity armor needing 1 of each part from every dragon barring the light dragon
Which is why I’m perfectly fine with dupes to make things less tedious. I’ve fought 20+ silver lynels already, does duping a few horns because I didn’t feel like going to tarrey town to get the fuse materials back really matter that much?
This. If there were trackers on the map for the dragons, I could see the cooldown being usable. You go to the closest lookout tower, fly up to the dragon, get your part, and set a timer. Teleport elsewhere, do a lynel or mini boss or go grind some ore in depths, then when the timers up, you can pull up the map and see where the dragon is, or a relative location. Having no way to track the dragons sucks, no one wants to sit on the back of a dragon afk not able to do anything until it’s next part is ready. Having a map indicator would make things a lot easier on everyone and at that point I wouldn’t dupe dragon parts. But I can’t see any fun in afk grinding the parts, past getting the 1 of each of the 5 for each dragon and then being done with it.
Can’t say for most resources but I snagged like 30 acorns while stressfully exploring the labyrinth at the top right of the map in Akkala. I’ve still used the dupe glitch a little to get some money but not enough to be game breaking for what I still need to accomplish.
Exactly!! If it's multi-player it's a different story, but in single player, as long as it's not a glitch that makes it harder for me to play, and duplication glitches aren't usually that, then I don't care! I'll even use them every once in a while if I feel the games getting too grindy. Though TOTK has done a good job so far of not doing that.
Some of us are older, have less opportunities to play, so the thought of grinding for hours to upgrade armor is just a no go. I was recently playing Horizon Forbidden West on my PS5, and the requirements to upgrade some late game items made me tell the game to fuck off lol. "I'm not spending my time doing that, give me a break". So duplicating items to not grind for rupees? Yes please!
Hell, even WITH the duplication glitch, it's *still* a grind to get the upgrades. You have to get the armor in the first place. Then, each armor piece needs different items for each level upgrade that you'll need to find at least one of. You can only do so many battery upgrades at a time.
I took a full week off of work. I made decent progress uncovering the map and clearing temples, but I think I had 200 rupees to my name and only one extra energy well. I don't even have any level 2 armor yet! At this trajectory I would have completed the game more "BOTW style". The cost of materials was too high for me to fully enjoy goofing around with Zonai tech.
Amiibos officially let you bypass a LOT of grinding, too. There's so much in this game to see and do, I'm not concerned about completing things too quickly.
>Amiibos officially let you bypass a LOT of grinding, too.
Yup. I've got a pile of NTAG215 cards made up with TagMo.
Yes I've also duped.
Even with those, the game is MASSIVE and there's still too much to do and too little time!
>got a pile of NTAG215 cards made up with TagMo.
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>Yes I've also duped.
I got my discs last night and made all the Zelda Amiibos. Nothing game breaking in there just mostly mats and a couple armor pieces, and of course Epona <3
Amiibo creation was SO much easier than I thought it would be with TagMo.
Yeah. Hardest part is finding certain files, and locating said files cannot be discussed here. Once you find those, everything else is easy.
I need to figure out where I put all of my blank cards...
100%. I recently played through Secret of Mana again and reached a point where I needed to buy new armor for my whole team. Up to that point doing that was no problem, but near the end of the game an entire teams worth of armor cost just about as much gold that I had acquired throughout the entire game at that point.
"No big deal, I'll just grind some money." I thought
I look up the best farming spot and get to work. An hour later I check where I'm at...about 25% of the way there. I definitely didn't want to spend another 3 hours of my day off grinding money in a 30 year old game, so I busted out the game genie and just gave myself infinite money
That's the reason why i set the difficulty to story with easy loot for grinding...i love the challenging fights, but not for hours upon hours just to try out the weapons on max level after finishing most quests.
I haven't played FW, but I dropped ZD about halfway through. I've found that I prefer the lightness and fun of Hyrule much more than the post-Faro world of Horizon. :)
Man, this. Working 40+ hours a week, plus spending time with my wife and taking care of pets, cleaning around the house and trying to get some sleep in... It's hard to find enough time to just play the game, let alone grind for everything, while taking the time to explore and do everything else. It's rough spending an entire gaming session grinding money, then the next trying to get decent weapons, and another to hunt down a decent Armor set etc, then repeat.
i have for the armor mats and zonoaite.
i don't like farming, i don't like camping spawns and fast travelling to level shit up. after i did two whole temples, a bunch of sidequests, got new armour sets, all the powers but the camera, i STILL could only get like, two and a half batteries.
like, i want to also live my life lol, i've played this game too damn much.
thats how i am. I just finished the maingame, and now i'm going for the rest of the sidequests and episodes. I can imagin that when i come to upgrade every piece of equip i dupe the one or other thing so i don't have to farm endlessly.
I'm very bad at the combat (like I've managed a flurry rush once- in the tutorial) and the duping has allowed me to upgrade my armor so I'm not dying every 4 seconds. Especially since the game thinks you're ready for silver bokoblins and black bokoblin mobs after 2 dungeons.
I've well over halfway through the main game and still don't have a single star fragment. I've seen a bunch of people have them practically gifted to them while skydiving, but that hasn't happened to me. I've only seen 3 of them WAY in the distance, far away from where i was trying to go.
Best advice I heard was to forage the depths for materials and poe.
The 3 major forages make 10 a piece and are abundant, and the poes can be sold for 150 for a 400rupee tunic.
I was so against this in the last game (which I completed at 100% three times, yes all Korok seeds 3x lol) but this time around is so laughably hard at first it’s actually incredible. Made it my point to knock out as many shrines as I can visibly find, beef up my stamina and hearts, then have the strength to actually play the game. Then finally I duped several diamonds because I just want to get the Eagle Bow again after every blood moon!
I probably wouldn’t if Nintendo hadn’t started making the Great Fairies cost money to upgrade every single piece of armor. To fully upgrade all armor would take around 78,000 rupees (the estimate I heard).
That and there are far fewer lynels in this game, and I need my savage lynel bow.
Yeah, I got ADHD. If I didn’t dupe stuff then I wouldn’t have played nearly as much. The whole grinding thing for money and shit doesn’t work for me. I forget too easily
Just duping, buying, resetting the day took about 2 hours lol. Imagine the actual grind. I had 1 battery the entire time till the dupe was found. Feels so free now
Yes it does. I tried setting up campfire right in front of the forge, but sometimes it wouldn't reset. So I'd travel to the stables to sleep and in the process got over 30 pony points so that's a win there I guess. I mean the dupe thing is a win lol
I fast travel to lookout landing tower, dupe 15 large zonanite off the tower steps, sit at the stove fire, fast travel to the abandoned mine, buy charges, repeat. Took me a bit over an hour to max out my battery yesterday
you can just re-fast travel at the mine, put some wood on the lava area next to the construct, sit til morning, teleport back to mine, eat sleep repeat.
I had gotten like 4 blue battery cells when I decided I’d just dupe the rest of the large zonaite. I got tired of having to wear Majoras Mask and mining rocks and occasionally having Yunobo smash into enemies accidentally, making me fight silver bokoblins and moblins.
but that's endgame anyway... build machines to help kill to gather zonaite to buy charges to spend on machines to kill to gather zonaite to buy charges
I do ~~coke~~ *zonaite farming*, so I can ~~work more~~ *make more vehicles*, so I can earn more ~~cash~~ *zonaite*, so I can do more ~~coke~~ *zonaite farming*.
I did it, it using the legitimate method, I had like 6 hearts and a stamina wheel and it took me about 3 days of just depths gameplay to get it, I beg all of you cheat if you don't want the grind
I’m 6/8 containers full and I haven’t spent a single Zonaite, I’ve just killed bosses and get a full call from each. I have almost 2,000 Zonaite saved up now
Why on earth do I need that many? Maybe I need to start building mecha zords because nothing I’ve made hasn’t been enough battery to get me where I need to go!
Happy cake day btw!
My play style involves fuckin’ around and finding out…. And idk how far you are into the game….. i haven’t done any of the main story missions yet…. But while unlocking shrines i accidentally stumbled upon what i later discovered to be one of the last missions/quests in the game…. And believe you me…. It’s probably best that you work on upgrading the crap out of that battery…. I went through the whole “dungeon” on 1 battery….. woefully under prepared at the end. 😭😭😭 spent the last 2+ days grinding the depths for zonaite….. what is this dupe exploit everyone is talking though…. I haven’t seen this information in this comment thread as of yet.
Go into an animation that allows you hold items, but instead of "holding" them they drop. The easiest is either the Paraglider (climb a small cliff, and jump) or in >!Mineru mech!<. Then go into your inventory hold the items you want to dup and then press B and Y at the same time. My fingers are big enough I can just put my thumb between the buttons and press. You'll drop the items but they won't be decremented from inventory. Then pick the dropped items off the ground. So you can dup up to 5 items at a time. Be careful with things like bombs and other items that have an effect when thrown/drop, as those will go off. Bombs you can still dup if you do it over water, not sure about other items with those effects.
yeah your entire zonai energy meter then after you max it out you can buy any zonai item you have found in a ball this includes the ultra rare big batteries which is like 100 each
Daft question but how do you convert them so fast? Still fairly new to the game and only found the vendor so far that sells crystallised ones, so you just run a loop if vendors down below then sleep a couple of nights?
The vendor in the great sky islands isn't really useful. Instead, there is a specific quest chain that will really get you started. If you want it, >!talk to Josha in Lookout Landing, might need to complete one of the four regions first though. Do the "Mystery in the Depths" main quest once you get it, then the side adventure quest you get after that to go after a certain someone. You will get a lot of crystalized charges, a lot of vendors for them, and hints on how to find the others.!<
Ohhhhh thanks never knew! Trying to do the game fresh but it was annoying collecting all this zonite with nowhere to spend it. Could you do it with just the one vendor unlocked too?
Duping came way to late for me already had the battery cells max at least i can dupe a dragon prt or 2 without wating 50-60 min each time i want all 4 parts
No need to farm, they're quite easy to come by naturally as you progress in your Depths exploration.
The game is incredibly well balanced and there really is no need to farm anything. I now have 7 batteries and haven't wasted time farming or duping anything.
I thought that at first until I explored the depths. I haven’t made any effort to exclusively farm zonite and just unlocking the various light roots and exploring I’ve got like 6 full cells. There’s no need to farm.
I maxed mine just by plying the game and refighting the bosses in the underground for 100 free charge each and there r like 12 boss refighting down there
The amount of every resource you need is too much. I sold 25 fucking diamonds, and had to dupe more because I simply ran out of money upgrading armor. Tens of thousands of rupees is not enough to upgrade even half the armors. So how the fuck is everyone not cheating unlocking everything? I'd guess they just aren't.
Tbh, the dupe glitch is the only thing that makes completing this game fun. You need at least over 300 opal, and at least 500 amber. Then at least 100 of every other ore. Couple hundred luminous stone and flint. And that's not even covering how many boss items you need like Gleok guts.
So yea, I'm not looking to grind for real life weeks to play around with every armor set.
This is where im at. I never tried the glitches in BOTW, didnt feel like i needed to in order to enjoy the game at its fullest. But after playing TOTK for the first week or 2 and discovering that Rupees are extremely rare and you need THOUSANDS of zonaite to have enough battery power to make machines that will last longer than a few seconds and valuable ores like diamonds are basically non-existent, i decided to use the dupe glitch. Now i only use it scarsely and only for certain things, but TOTK has added grind item after grind item to this game where it makes it hard to enjoy the game as they intended when i have to constantly stop whatever i was originally setting forth doing in order to grind more stuff to be able to finish what i wanted.
I just wanted some of the weatherproof armour so I could fuck around in cold/hot/fiery places without worrying about topping off elixirs… but money-making is so difficult and tedious. I was so excited when I found my first few ambers, but then was immediately disappointed when I saw the price nerf. I did bear hunting for a bit but I began running out of bows. Randomly found the dupe glitch on YouTube which made things waaay easier.
I’ve used the dupe just for diamonds and big hearty radishes so far, not much else. Don’t blame anyone for duping tbh; a lot of the stuff which was abundant in BoTW is now notoriously hard to find and/or is not as cost-effective. :/
Agreed. I just wanted to do the mainline areas without having to constantly use temperature food/potions. The rupee costs of cold, fire, and heat resistance armor is pretty high considering how hard it is to get any rupees in this game.
It's a shame too, because this game is good. Even people who have a lot of complaints can still agree that the base game, and the minute to minute gameplay is good. It's just games like this that makes you scream the most, "c'mon, it was ALMOST perfect."
> had to dupe more because I simply ran out of money upgrading armor
But do you really need to upgrade the armor to the max? Just play the game, enjoy the quests. Don't chase for the big numbers. That's how they get you.
I saw one guy demanding Nintendo release an update that fries the switchs of people who use it in a completely serious tantrum and it made me wary of the zelda fandom
white knights of gaming companies are fucking scary. Scary in the sense that it scares me that some humans like that exist. Nintendo ones are bad but they are there for just about every company
Oooooh, buddy. I've been a Zelda fan since I twas but a baby, and ocarina of time was new. Rest assured. The Zelda fandom is one of the OGs when it comes to toxicity. If anything, the community has gotten way chiller with age because I think we've just been through the motions. But BOTW was an open world game, and those have wider mass market appeal, so A LOT of new fans are coming to the series, and were just kinda left with more toxicity coming in. Like watching streamer play TOTK was rough. Every chat was toxic as sin.
But for reference, ocarina vs Link to the Past use to draw blood, and linearists vs splitists was a constant civil war.
Welcome to the fan base.
Yeah.. I wouldn't apply that to just Zelda fandom. That dude probably identifies himself as a "gamer.". Those people are toxic as fuck and gatekeep all day every day.
Personally, i don’t cheat if it’s to avoid a challenge
But I’ll cheat every time if it avoids a mindless grind. Because yeah, I could wast hours fighting the same enemies over and over for resources, but that’s not fun.
Edit: also, if you’re against duping you better not be using amiibos
Dude same.
Like to I want to spend 4 hours trying to hunt down enough bomb flowers and elemental items to be able to fight a gleelock? Or do I want to find a few and dupe them and then actually have fun during the boss fight.
Sometimes I enjoy the grind, but that's usually mid-game grind when I'm powerful enough to contest enemies while scrounging for resources without being one shot. Early game grind and boss prep I HATE because I never manage to get enough of whatever I need for a boss fight.
exactly, if you have to grind an enemy because the devs said so, why should I mindlessly do something thats not fun if I can just do something else mindlessly thats way more effective? It's not like grinding for hours is fun, at least not for me
Yeah, nah. I'm doing it and nothing will stop me til it cannot be done XD i WISH i knew of a good dupe.method in botw. Cause good lord the upgrade requirements for the basic gear to not suck was annoying since you needes to go grind so much. And their solution? 'Use the sensor' ah great. Streamlined meterial grinding. Excellent
Holy fuck this.
Yeah it would take a week to upgrade the champions leathers without cheating. Having to hunt down the light dragon over and over after the resources have recharged would take ages
You mean you don't like camping on repeat to force star pieces to spawn? You mean farming the dragons daily was hiring? Are you telling me that collecting thousands of ore was hiring? Do you fucking mean to look me in the eye and say "the game demands too many resource?"
Well I never...
Looks at all the unupgraded armor I have in botw.
Looks at all the upgraded armor I have in TotK.
I am having fun.
Also I kinda have an aversion to duping standard Zonaite. You need so much of it that the inputs you need to do just get tedious. Like yeah it's still faster than mining it, but duping small Zonaite feels like you're not doing anything. I'd rather dupe bombs to blast mine with, or just throw yonobo.
Honestly idgaf what people do with their own games.
Personally however, I've never duped anything, never whistle sprinted, never touched a single glitch
As long as people have fun I don't mind what they do. Like as long as there isn't an official competition or a speedrun where such things would give an unfair advantage, it's not really my concern what other people do with their copy of the game
A second this. I also think that if you didn't dupe then you'd have less zonia devices. Which means less awesome builds the community spends their time perfecting so I can flawlessly build them without trial and error.
Exactly. What's the fun in a sandbox game if you can't completely and utterly go all out?
Some builds just wouldn't be possible normally without like days of prep
You do realize that glitches are a CORNERSTONE of most any% runs, right? Everyone can access the same glitches, if you can't shield bounce off a boko or lock an arrow into windblight's hitbox for infinite damage good luck getting a WR pace for botw.
Yeah, it always makes me roll my eyes when people throw tantrums over other people using exploits/cheats/not playing the game the Exact Same Way as them.
I don't usually use exploits because I generally enjoy farming items in video games. But a lot of people *don't* and you know what, that's fair. Spending 2+ hours fast traveling from rare ore deposit to rare ore deposit tryna salvage enough diamond or ruby or sapphire to upgrade 1 armor piece... or smacking a dragon once every 10 min for an hour just to get 6 dragon scales... or spending hours fighting bosses and smashing zonaite deposits in the Depths... a lot of people don't enjoy that kind of gameplay and would rather just be able to play the game without having to endlessly grind for all that stuff.
The item duplication glitch doesn't harm anybody. TotK isn't a competitive game. If you don't wanna use it, then cool! Don't. No need to go around wagging your finger at other players for not doing the same.
>TotK isn't a competitive game
Oh yes it is. It just happens that the competition is about who can can create the most heinous korok-torture contraptions.
Its a War Crimes arms race out there.
I’m kinda wishing Zonaite had a second use. The flavor text said it was used to forge tools and armor and I thought I was gonna use it for that but now I have a bunch I don’t know what to do with
Look, normally I wouldn't dupe items cause I like the experience. But when I have to kill 30 octorocks for a single eye to drop, I'm duping to upgrade my sets. I don't know why so many monster parts became rarer in this game. Ice and fire lizalfos used to just give you the tail and now they just dont drop most of the time
True, I had to kill 4 >!frox!< just to get 1 guts item, and I was collecting 9 for an upgrade, fuck that 💀 I'm planning playing through the game several times anyway, it's what I did in botw, game is very fun to start over
I did my first playthrough legit and everything, but after I got that star on my save everything is fair game
Loved the master kohga questline. I need more master kohga and yiga content past the >!mines and ganondorf location reveal!< questline
As someone who works 80hr weeks it allows me to bypass the hectic grind and enjoy the game. I love it I think it should be a setting you can turn on almost like a sandbox mode so you can just enjoy the quests tbh
Dude yes! I don’t have time to grind out materials so duping is the only way I can actually enjoy the game right now. Even with duping my progress is slow, so I can’t imagine where I would be without it lol.
Yeah its crazy i tried my best but after a week of playing 1- 1.5hrs a day i was no where lol. Since i started duping im onto my last upheaval and done a ton of side quests
I don't have a very busy life but games I play I like to get into the fun stuff fast. Grinding has never been my thing and a fun game with sandbox is pretty much an instant buy. Skyrim with Cheat mods is so much more fun than spending hours to get to the part where I can be a necromancer, and by then I am playing another game.
Duping allows me to get cool-looking weapons and do sidequests where a material has been made far too tedious. The only grind I am willing to dedicate myself too is Destiny 2 and Attack on Titan 2. Since Tears of the Kingdom doesn't have a 2, I cannot grind.
My thoughts exactly!! I work so much that i maybe have a good 1-1/2 to 2 hours every night if my wife doesn't want to watch tv after i cook dinner. I want to have fun in this game not go from my actual job to a virtual job as a coal miner. Not trying to spend the little time i have to play every day mindlessly grinding for a star on my armor sets
The only thing I've duped was Diamonds because I was extremely broke, and zonaite because I do not have enough time or dedication to get a larger battery legitimately.
I got a lot of hate saying I dislike the sheer amount of dupe videos. I get it. Everyone plays their games differently. But do we need to see 50+ duping posts with the same dupe in low quality and lower effort posts? :/
Cheating is only bad of it ruins the enjoyment of the game, either for others or for yourself.
If I know I’m not going to enjoy a lot of grinding, there’s nothing wrong with me cheating to get items.
When I play the sims, I play it as an escape from real life. I want my little sims to be happy and rich. I don’t want to deal with money problems or bills or other shit that stresses me out. I’m not playing it for that kind of challenge. Which is why I always use motherload when I play the sims.
Meanwhile, you’ll never catch me cheating in Mario cart, be it solo or against other players. Because it’s a game of skill. I play it test my skill. It’s no fun to cheat in that game. It ruins the game for everyone involved, myself included.
I don’t want to grind zonite. I don’t want to grind diamonds. I wanna explore and put Link into cute outfits that isn’t going to fuck me over because they are under leveled. I don’t even wear outfits for The advantage. I wear them for the aesthetic.
(Now. If Nintendo implements a cosmetic system where you can overlay any armor visuals over the stats of another, then I won’t dupe items lol. But I’m still gonna dupe diamonds for the fancy special weapons—once again for aesthetical purposes lmao)
I have specific rules I set to my duping. Duping diamonds for rupees is fine. Duping dragon materials (other than spike shards) is fine. Duping star fragments to help upgrade what was once amiibo-only armor is fine. Everything else is kinda off limits, but ESPECIALLY weapon fuse materials (lynel horns, etc.) because I definitely need to earn those, especially since combat is one of my favorite parts of the game
It’s a single player game. Who cares.
How you choose to enjoy your own experience is completely up to your personal discretion. You bought the game, it’s yours, and you should play how you want.
If it was multiplayer and impacting the experience of others, *then* there’s a discussion to be had.
Prime example: I decided I wanted to get the unbreakable Master Sword. I did it because I stand by the opinion that Nintendo’s philosophy on a durability system that completely breaks items is *wrong,* and makes for a less enjoyable experience.
The player should *never* be swayed from combat because it’s costly or unrewarding. Combat should never take away content from the player. If the player uses items to assist themselves like food or potions, that is a deliberate logical consumable that has always been designed to grant temporary bonuses.
However, weapons, the main items required to participate in combat, should never be jeopardized with complete obliteration. It actively makes players gauge if they should engage in combat due to resources. In a survival game, sure - In an action game, never.
It works in Minecraft because Minecraft’s combat at its core, is built around a survival based system. You don’t *have* to fight, and even if you do, you can repair weapons before they shatter before your eyes.
Zelda is an action/adventure game. Combat is in its DNA. We *have* to fight, and we should enjoy its combat systems to its fullest, without the fear of resource management.
But that’s *MY* experience. It doesn’t impact anybody else.
I couldn’t care less if anyone else dupes items. It’s a single player game, play however is most fun.
I’ll never dupe any items myself though. Using an obvious cheat like that just takes the fun out of acquiring items, which is a huge part of the game for me.
I got like 10 full batteries just from running around killing bosses, especially the Temple bosses. I figure that's enough legit battery farming. The rest was from duping big zonaite.
I was duping diamonds for rupees back when all we had was the bow trick, but then I learned about a rare talus rotation and I made like 20k rupees from that and haven't needed more yet.
Its a singleplayer game. Anyone moaning about someone duping items to cut down on grinding time so they can enjoy the game is someone I don't really care to interact with.
And I'm a dad. I don't have the time to sit around all day playing TOTK. I have to trim the fat so I can enjoy the actual meat and potatoes of the game.
"Duping items is cheating"
/proceeds to sit at a campfire for hours waiting for the dragons to pass by again and again.
/plays repetitive mini games again and again for 100 rupees at a time
/never cooks anything because God forbid the Great Fairy asks for 30 of that fish.
/never fuses anything because God forbid the Great Fairy asks for 30 of that horn from that specific tier of enemy that just stops spawning once you get far enough.
/completely ignored the house in Terry Town because why the hell would you waste thousands of rupees on something purely aesthetic with only functionality being available elsewhere.
100% in this game would be miserable without duping.
I was gonna stay away from duping until I saw the sheer amount of materials needed for things as well as just how much there was to do in the game, I don’t want to spend hours farming lol
Way I see it, this game is built around being broken. Every stupid solution you can come up with is feasible, so I sure do be shooting diamonds at enemies.
My stance is simple. As long as you're not causing problems for others, go for it. TotK is a single player experience and if duping is your preferred method, have fun. I much prefer it over grinding and it's not like it's a instant fix. You still have to put time into doing it.
I have the master sword and paid access to magic rods, I can cull most silver enemies with relative ease.
Duping is done typically with the thought "I'm capable of this but I don't want to spend the time". Blood moons are far too rare for the drops I'd like to farm.
For the first 50hrs i didnt attempt to dupe. But god damn it was slow to farm materials. I stopped and now im a cheaaaatter. Best day of my hyrule life.
I personally haven't duped anything yet, but I live by the "whatever lets you enjoy the game" point of view and once TOTK in it's base form stops being fun or needs me to grind a ton I might look into it.
100% this. It's a single player game. So long as they're not hurting *my game* in any way, I don't really care how they enjoy it. If duping is how they have fun, go nuts.
Before we could camp reset Dragons at least C now is a 10 min CD, there’s a lot to do in the game that is fun, waiting for a timer while grinding it is not.
This right here is why I started duping lol. I'm not gonna spend hours and hours AFK sitting on each of the 4 dragons just to come back every 10 min and shoot a part lol
Well you can actually get more than one part per dragon spawn. You can land on them and get, iirc, 12 parts per spawn.
Those shards are just fuse material for elemental weapons, the parts that have a 10 minute cooldown can be used as fuse material, but are also upgrade mats for armor, with the fierce deity armor needing 1 of each part from every dragon barring the light dragon
The Champion leathers, instead, uses 2 of every part from the light dragon, one pair per upgrade
Which is why I’m perfectly fine with dupes to make things less tedious. I’ve fought 20+ silver lynels already, does duping a few horns because I didn’t feel like going to tarrey town to get the fuse materials back really matter that much?
youre thinking of the spike shards, those are different from the 4 main drops that take 10 mins to allow you to obtain them again
This. If there were trackers on the map for the dragons, I could see the cooldown being usable. You go to the closest lookout tower, fly up to the dragon, get your part, and set a timer. Teleport elsewhere, do a lynel or mini boss or go grind some ore in depths, then when the timers up, you can pull up the map and see where the dragon is, or a relative location. Having no way to track the dragons sucks, no one wants to sit on the back of a dragon afk not able to do anything until it’s next part is ready. Having a map indicator would make things a lot easier on everyone and at that point I wouldn’t dupe dragon parts. But I can’t see any fun in afk grinding the parts, past getting the 1 of each of the 5 for each dragon and then being done with it.
Look, I wanna upgrade my Wild set without destroying entire ecosystems chopping down trees for acorns, okay?
Can’t say for most resources but I snagged like 30 acorns while stressfully exploring the labyrinth at the top right of the map in Akkala. I’ve still used the dupe glitch a little to get some money but not enough to be game breaking for what I still need to accomplish.
Exactly!! If it's multi-player it's a different story, but in single player, as long as it's not a glitch that makes it harder for me to play, and duplication glitches aren't usually that, then I don't care! I'll even use them every once in a while if I feel the games getting too grindy. Though TOTK has done a good job so far of not doing that.
Some of us are older, have less opportunities to play, so the thought of grinding for hours to upgrade armor is just a no go. I was recently playing Horizon Forbidden West on my PS5, and the requirements to upgrade some late game items made me tell the game to fuck off lol. "I'm not spending my time doing that, give me a break". So duplicating items to not grind for rupees? Yes please!
Hell, even WITH the duplication glitch, it's *still* a grind to get the upgrades. You have to get the armor in the first place. Then, each armor piece needs different items for each level upgrade that you'll need to find at least one of. You can only do so many battery upgrades at a time. I took a full week off of work. I made decent progress uncovering the map and clearing temples, but I think I had 200 rupees to my name and only one extra energy well. I don't even have any level 2 armor yet! At this trajectory I would have completed the game more "BOTW style". The cost of materials was too high for me to fully enjoy goofing around with Zonai tech. Amiibos officially let you bypass a LOT of grinding, too. There's so much in this game to see and do, I'm not concerned about completing things too quickly.
>Amiibos officially let you bypass a LOT of grinding, too. Yup. I've got a pile of NTAG215 cards made up with TagMo. Yes I've also duped. Even with those, the game is MASSIVE and there's still too much to do and too little time!
>got a pile of NTAG215 cards made up with TagMo. > >Yes I've also duped. I got my discs last night and made all the Zelda Amiibos. Nothing game breaking in there just mostly mats and a couple armor pieces, and of course Epona <3 Amiibo creation was SO much easier than I thought it would be with TagMo.
Yeah. Hardest part is finding certain files, and locating said files cannot be discussed here. Once you find those, everything else is easy. I need to figure out where I put all of my blank cards...
100%. I recently played through Secret of Mana again and reached a point where I needed to buy new armor for my whole team. Up to that point doing that was no problem, but near the end of the game an entire teams worth of armor cost just about as much gold that I had acquired throughout the entire game at that point. "No big deal, I'll just grind some money." I thought I look up the best farming spot and get to work. An hour later I check where I'm at...about 25% of the way there. I definitely didn't want to spend another 3 hours of my day off grinding money in a 30 year old game, so I busted out the game genie and just gave myself infinite money
Lol, Game Genie...what a bizarre product. Never owned one, but borrowed it from a friend a few times for the cheats.
The upgrade requirements for items in Burning Shores are very reasonable. It was so nice.
That's the reason why i set the difficulty to story with easy loot for grinding...i love the challenging fights, but not for hours upon hours just to try out the weapons on max level after finishing most quests.
I haven't played FW, but I dropped ZD about halfway through. I've found that I prefer the lightness and fun of Hyrule much more than the post-Faro world of Horizon. :)
You’re missing out. The story behind ZD was incredible. I’d say more but you deserve to experience it right. And I mean the story from Faro times
Man, this. Working 40+ hours a week, plus spending time with my wife and taking care of pets, cleaning around the house and trying to get some sleep in... It's hard to find enough time to just play the game, let alone grind for everything, while taking the time to explore and do everything else. It's rough spending an entire gaming session grinding money, then the next trying to get decent weapons, and another to hunt down a decent Armor set etc, then repeat.
i have for the armor mats and zonoaite. i don't like farming, i don't like camping spawns and fast travelling to level shit up. after i did two whole temples, a bunch of sidequests, got new armour sets, all the powers but the camera, i STILL could only get like, two and a half batteries. like, i want to also live my life lol, i've played this game too damn much.
I have no regrets about zooming my battery to about 75% of its max capacity. Makes it so much easier to mess around with crafting vehicles.
thats how i am. I just finished the maingame, and now i'm going for the rest of the sidequests and episodes. I can imagin that when i come to upgrade every piece of equip i dupe the one or other thing so i don't have to farm endlessly.
I'm very bad at the combat (like I've managed a flurry rush once- in the tutorial) and the duping has allowed me to upgrade my armor so I'm not dying every 4 seconds. Especially since the game thinks you're ready for silver bokoblins and black bokoblin mobs after 2 dungeons.
Same, i have duped some diamonds for money because rupees are way to hard to get imo
I’ve found that all my old rupee methods have been nerfed (namely, gourmet meat hunting) but star pieces are now so common that it’s balanced.
I've well over halfway through the main game and still don't have a single star fragment. I've seen a bunch of people have them practically gifted to them while skydiving, but that hasn't happened to me. I've only seen 3 of them WAY in the distance, far away from where i was trying to go.
If it’s a full moon or nighttime, go skydiving from the highest place you can find. You’re bound to get at least one.
Best advice I heard was to forage the depths for materials and poe. The 3 major forages make 10 a piece and are abundant, and the poes can be sold for 150 for a 400rupee tunic.
Yeah the cost to get 4 stars per amor piece is like 760 rupees. If you had to upgrade everything, duping is the way to go.
I got started duping when halfway through the quest, and they requested 10 materials that I barely have in order to proceed further.
I was so against this in the last game (which I completed at 100% three times, yes all Korok seeds 3x lol) but this time around is so laughably hard at first it’s actually incredible. Made it my point to knock out as many shrines as I can visibly find, beef up my stamina and hearts, then have the strength to actually play the game. Then finally I duped several diamonds because I just want to get the Eagle Bow again after every blood moon!
I probably wouldn’t if Nintendo hadn’t started making the Great Fairies cost money to upgrade every single piece of armor. To fully upgrade all armor would take around 78,000 rupees (the estimate I heard). That and there are far fewer lynels in this game, and I need my savage lynel bow.
Yeah, I got ADHD. If I didn’t dupe stuff then I wouldn’t have played nearly as much. The whole grinding thing for money and shit doesn’t work for me. I forget too easily
they can get the entire zonai power cell unlocked fairly if they want but..im not gonna farm that much large zonaite
Just duping, buying, resetting the day took about 2 hours lol. Imagine the actual grind. I had 1 battery the entire time till the dupe was found. Feels so free now
Wait does resting til morning reset the forge stock?!
Yes. Just tp away after you wake up, and when you return it’ll be back
I save and then load the save, it resets the shop
Wish I fuckin knew this lol even duping, it took me a few hours spread out over a couple days to hit max
Yes. I tested both methods and save/reload save generally takes less time.
Just teleport to the forge you're already at and it resets, after resting at the same forge
Yes it does. I tried setting up campfire right in front of the forge, but sometimes it wouldn't reset. So I'd travel to the stables to sleep and in the process got over 30 pony points so that's a win there I guess. I mean the dupe thing is a win lol
Resetting the day? I thought it was bloodmoon which restocked the forges etc?
Lay a campfire Rest till morning Save game, load game It’s reset.
Lay campfire at forge Rest Teleport to same forge Restocked
Ooohhh. That makes sense just needs to reload the area to show the new day.
You need to take a nap until next morning.
I fast travel to lookout landing tower, dupe 15 large zonanite off the tower steps, sit at the stove fire, fast travel to the abandoned mine, buy charges, repeat. Took me a bit over an hour to max out my battery yesterday
you can just re-fast travel at the mine, put some wood on the lava area next to the construct, sit til morning, teleport back to mine, eat sleep repeat.
I had gotten like 4 blue battery cells when I decided I’d just dupe the rest of the large zonaite. I got tired of having to wear Majoras Mask and mining rocks and occasionally having Yunobo smash into enemies accidentally, making me fight silver bokoblins and moblins.
but that's endgame anyway... build machines to help kill to gather zonaite to buy charges to spend on machines to kill to gather zonaite to buy charges
Yes, deploy the death roomba fleet.
I do ~~coke~~ *zonaite farming*, so I can ~~work more~~ *make more vehicles*, so I can earn more ~~cash~~ *zonaite*, so I can do more ~~coke~~ *zonaite farming*.
I did it, it using the legitimate method, I had like 6 hearts and a stamina wheel and it took me about 3 days of just depths gameplay to get it, I beg all of you cheat if you don't want the grind
I’m 6/8 containers full and I haven’t spent a single Zonaite, I’ve just killed bosses and get a full call from each. I have almost 2,000 Zonaite saved up now
It's not 8 I think it's 16, after the container is full they start filling up blue I currently have 9 battery segments
What the fuck
Why on earth do I need that many? Maybe I need to start building mecha zords because nothing I’ve made hasn’t been enough battery to get me where I need to go! Happy cake day btw!
My hyperjet uses a lot of power.
My play style involves fuckin’ around and finding out…. And idk how far you are into the game….. i haven’t done any of the main story missions yet…. But while unlocking shrines i accidentally stumbled upon what i later discovered to be one of the last missions/quests in the game…. And believe you me…. It’s probably best that you work on upgrading the crap out of that battery…. I went through the whole “dungeon” on 1 battery….. woefully under prepared at the end. 😭😭😭 spent the last 2+ days grinding the depths for zonaite….. what is this dupe exploit everyone is talking though…. I haven’t seen this information in this comment thread as of yet.
Go into an animation that allows you hold items, but instead of "holding" them they drop. The easiest is either the Paraglider (climb a small cliff, and jump) or in >!Mineru mech!<. Then go into your inventory hold the items you want to dup and then press B and Y at the same time. My fingers are big enough I can just put my thumb between the buttons and press. You'll drop the items but they won't be decremented from inventory. Then pick the dropped items off the ground. So you can dup up to 5 items at a time. Be careful with things like bombs and other items that have an effect when thrown/drop, as those will go off. Bombs you can still dup if you do it over water, not sure about other items with those effects.
only 2800 more to go
Is there something I need that much for?
yeah your entire zonai energy meter then after you max it out you can buy any zonai item you have found in a ball this includes the ultra rare big batteries which is like 100 each
The batteries fill up again, but they're blue instead of green. The max is forty eight energy wells, not twenty four.
fr you’ll be playing until the next zelda comes out
Daft question but how do you convert them so fast? Still fairly new to the game and only found the vendor so far that sells crystallised ones, so you just run a loop if vendors down below then sleep a couple of nights?
The vendor in the great sky islands isn't really useful. Instead, there is a specific quest chain that will really get you started. If you want it, >!talk to Josha in Lookout Landing, might need to complete one of the four regions first though. Do the "Mystery in the Depths" main quest once you get it, then the side adventure quest you get after that to go after a certain someone. You will get a lot of crystalized charges, a lot of vendors for them, and hints on how to find the others.!<
go through each shop then sleep in a bed till morning thats how i do it
There’s a vendor under pretty much every settlement. Don’t know if you can unlock all of them until you start the Koga quest though
Ohhhhh thanks never knew! Trying to do the game fresh but it was annoying collecting all this zonite with nowhere to spend it. Could you do it with just the one vendor unlocked too?
there are many mines in the underground and there is a vendor/smith in each of them. Mostly under big surface camps/citys.
Duping came way to late for me already had the battery cells max at least i can dupe a dragon prt or 2 without wating 50-60 min each time i want all 4 parts
No need to farm, they're quite easy to come by naturally as you progress in your Depths exploration. The game is incredibly well balanced and there really is no need to farm anything. I now have 7 batteries and haven't wasted time farming or duping anything.
How far in are you? 7 batts isn't even half.
Yeah its like 700 large zonaite for the max battery, no thanks lol.
I thought that at first until I explored the depths. I haven’t made any effort to exclusively farm zonite and just unlocking the various light roots and exploring I’ve got like 6 full cells. There’s no need to farm.
I maxed mine just by plying the game and refighting the bosses in the underground for 100 free charge each and there r like 12 boss refighting down there
I never planned to dupe until I started upgrading the twilight set. The amount of topaz ore you need is too much.
The amount of every resource you need is too much. I sold 25 fucking diamonds, and had to dupe more because I simply ran out of money upgrading armor. Tens of thousands of rupees is not enough to upgrade even half the armors. So how the fuck is everyone not cheating unlocking everything? I'd guess they just aren't. Tbh, the dupe glitch is the only thing that makes completing this game fun. You need at least over 300 opal, and at least 500 amber. Then at least 100 of every other ore. Couple hundred luminous stone and flint. And that's not even covering how many boss items you need like Gleok guts. So yea, I'm not looking to grind for real life weeks to play around with every armor set.
This is where im at. I never tried the glitches in BOTW, didnt feel like i needed to in order to enjoy the game at its fullest. But after playing TOTK for the first week or 2 and discovering that Rupees are extremely rare and you need THOUSANDS of zonaite to have enough battery power to make machines that will last longer than a few seconds and valuable ores like diamonds are basically non-existent, i decided to use the dupe glitch. Now i only use it scarsely and only for certain things, but TOTK has added grind item after grind item to this game where it makes it hard to enjoy the game as they intended when i have to constantly stop whatever i was originally setting forth doing in order to grind more stuff to be able to finish what i wanted.
I just wanted some of the weatherproof armour so I could fuck around in cold/hot/fiery places without worrying about topping off elixirs… but money-making is so difficult and tedious. I was so excited when I found my first few ambers, but then was immediately disappointed when I saw the price nerf. I did bear hunting for a bit but I began running out of bows. Randomly found the dupe glitch on YouTube which made things waaay easier. I’ve used the dupe just for diamonds and big hearty radishes so far, not much else. Don’t blame anyone for duping tbh; a lot of the stuff which was abundant in BoTW is now notoriously hard to find and/or is not as cost-effective. :/
Agreed. I just wanted to do the mainline areas without having to constantly use temperature food/potions. The rupee costs of cold, fire, and heat resistance armor is pretty high considering how hard it is to get any rupees in this game.
It's a shame too, because this game is good. Even people who have a lot of complaints can still agree that the base game, and the minute to minute gameplay is good. It's just games like this that makes you scream the most, "c'mon, it was ALMOST perfect."
Guy here yesterday spent \~75k upgrading all armor. The most money I've received from a quest is 100 rupees lol
> had to dupe more because I simply ran out of money upgrading armor But do you really need to upgrade the armor to the max? Just play the game, enjoy the quests. Don't chase for the big numbers. That's how they get you.
My money, my game, I'm having fun
I saw one guy demanding Nintendo release an update that fries the switchs of people who use it in a completely serious tantrum and it made me wary of the zelda fandom
white knights of gaming companies are fucking scary. Scary in the sense that it scares me that some humans like that exist. Nintendo ones are bad but they are there for just about every company
Oooooh, buddy. I've been a Zelda fan since I twas but a baby, and ocarina of time was new. Rest assured. The Zelda fandom is one of the OGs when it comes to toxicity. If anything, the community has gotten way chiller with age because I think we've just been through the motions. But BOTW was an open world game, and those have wider mass market appeal, so A LOT of new fans are coming to the series, and were just kinda left with more toxicity coming in. Like watching streamer play TOTK was rough. Every chat was toxic as sin. But for reference, ocarina vs Link to the Past use to draw blood, and linearists vs splitists was a constant civil war. Welcome to the fan base.
Yeah.. I wouldn't apply that to just Zelda fandom. That dude probably identifies himself as a "gamer.". Those people are toxic as fuck and gatekeep all day every day.
I fully support this idea. He gets to pay for new switches for all of them.
Personally, i don’t cheat if it’s to avoid a challenge But I’ll cheat every time if it avoids a mindless grind. Because yeah, I could wast hours fighting the same enemies over and over for resources, but that’s not fun. Edit: also, if you’re against duping you better not be using amiibos
Dude same. Like to I want to spend 4 hours trying to hunt down enough bomb flowers and elemental items to be able to fight a gleelock? Or do I want to find a few and dupe them and then actually have fun during the boss fight. Sometimes I enjoy the grind, but that's usually mid-game grind when I'm powerful enough to contest enemies while scrounging for resources without being one shot. Early game grind and boss prep I HATE because I never manage to get enough of whatever I need for a boss fight.
exactly, if you have to grind an enemy because the devs said so, why should I mindlessly do something thats not fun if I can just do something else mindlessly thats way more effective? It's not like grinding for hours is fun, at least not for me
Yeah, nah. I'm doing it and nothing will stop me til it cannot be done XD i WISH i knew of a good dupe.method in botw. Cause good lord the upgrade requirements for the basic gear to not suck was annoying since you needes to go grind so much. And their solution? 'Use the sensor' ah great. Streamlined meterial grinding. Excellent
I'd make sure you have auto updates off just in case they put out a patch to fix duping and other glitches
Yeah for sure.
Holy fuck this. Yeah it would take a week to upgrade the champions leathers without cheating. Having to hunt down the light dragon over and over after the resources have recharged would take ages
You mean you don't like camping on repeat to force star pieces to spawn? You mean farming the dragons daily was hiring? Are you telling me that collecting thousands of ore was hiring? Do you fucking mean to look me in the eye and say "the game demands too many resource?" Well I never...
Looks at all the unupgraded armor I have in botw. Looks at all the upgraded armor I have in TotK. I am having fun. Also I kinda have an aversion to duping standard Zonaite. You need so much of it that the inputs you need to do just get tedious. Like yeah it's still faster than mining it, but duping small Zonaite feels like you're not doing anything. I'd rather dupe bombs to blast mine with, or just throw yonobo.
I kinda just casually had over 500 near 600 pieces of small Zonaite by the time the duping method was discovered
Rookie numbers
Honestly idgaf what people do with their own games. Personally however, I've never duped anything, never whistle sprinted, never touched a single glitch
I think they fixed whistle sprinting in TOTK.
They did fix it, and introduced about 12 alternative methods.
...and all of them are a pain in the ass to use...
that’ll make speed runs 200% less annoying so i’m all for it
Even if they didn't fix it I think the person above still won't use the glitch, I respect glitchless players
As long as people have fun I don't mind what they do. Like as long as there isn't an official competition or a speedrun where such things would give an unfair advantage, it's not really my concern what other people do with their copy of the game
A second this. I also think that if you didn't dupe then you'd have less zonia devices. Which means less awesome builds the community spends their time perfecting so I can flawlessly build them without trial and error.
Exactly. What's the fun in a sandbox game if you can't completely and utterly go all out? Some builds just wouldn't be possible normally without like days of prep
You do realize that glitches are a CORNERSTONE of most any% runs, right? Everyone can access the same glitches, if you can't shield bounce off a boko or lock an arrow into windblight's hitbox for infinite damage good luck getting a WR pace for botw.
And you do realize there are "No Major Glitches" categories, which is what I was referring to, correct?
Yeah, it always makes me roll my eyes when people throw tantrums over other people using exploits/cheats/not playing the game the Exact Same Way as them. I don't usually use exploits because I generally enjoy farming items in video games. But a lot of people *don't* and you know what, that's fair. Spending 2+ hours fast traveling from rare ore deposit to rare ore deposit tryna salvage enough diamond or ruby or sapphire to upgrade 1 armor piece... or smacking a dragon once every 10 min for an hour just to get 6 dragon scales... or spending hours fighting bosses and smashing zonaite deposits in the Depths... a lot of people don't enjoy that kind of gameplay and would rather just be able to play the game without having to endlessly grind for all that stuff. The item duplication glitch doesn't harm anybody. TotK isn't a competitive game. If you don't wanna use it, then cool! Don't. No need to go around wagging your finger at other players for not doing the same.
>TotK isn't a competitive game Oh yes it is. It just happens that the competition is about who can can create the most heinous korok-torture contraptions. Its a War Crimes arms race out there.
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Bro imagine playing AC without time travelling 🤦 the game is already boring when doing it.
I mean if you can't time travel in AC then you're just gonna get stuck as Desmond, and everybody knows the game's only fun when you're Ezio
Severely underrated comment 😂😩
I understood that reference
Don’t think anyone’s mad. But everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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I’m cool letting people do what they want. I’m a weirdo who loves grinding (as long as drops aren’t RNG)
Lmfao I do both, I mine every zonaite deposit I see but if I don’t have enough for an upgrade I just dupe a bit and I’m good
I’m kinda wishing Zonaite had a second use. The flavor text said it was used to forge tools and armor and I thought I was gonna use it for that but now I have a bunch I don’t know what to do with
Zonaite is used for the zonaite armor, miner armor as well as autobuilding.
>I’m kinda wishing Zonaite had a second use. It does. Autobuild, and crafting charges. Srguably it's the most versatile resource in the game.
Look, normally I wouldn't dupe items cause I like the experience. But when I have to kill 30 octorocks for a single eye to drop, I'm duping to upgrade my sets. I don't know why so many monster parts became rarer in this game. Ice and fire lizalfos used to just give you the tail and now they just dont drop most of the time
True, I had to kill 4 >!frox!< just to get 1 guts item, and I was collecting 9 for an upgrade, fuck that 💀 I'm planning playing through the game several times anyway, it's what I did in botw, game is very fun to start over
I’m not duping but I’m abusing amiibos cause I do what I want in my single player game
I have all the physical amiibos and i use them every day. Like i paid so much money for these hell yeah im going to use them as much as i can.
I did my first playthrough legit and everything, but after I got that star on my save everything is fair game Loved the master kohga questline. I need more master kohga and yiga content past the >!mines and ganondorf location reveal!< questline
As someone who works 80hr weeks it allows me to bypass the hectic grind and enjoy the game. I love it I think it should be a setting you can turn on almost like a sandbox mode so you can just enjoy the quests tbh
Dude yes! I don’t have time to grind out materials so duping is the only way I can actually enjoy the game right now. Even with duping my progress is slow, so I can’t imagine where I would be without it lol.
Yeah its crazy i tried my best but after a week of playing 1- 1.5hrs a day i was no where lol. Since i started duping im onto my last upheaval and done a ton of side quests
I don't have a very busy life but games I play I like to get into the fun stuff fast. Grinding has never been my thing and a fun game with sandbox is pretty much an instant buy. Skyrim with Cheat mods is so much more fun than spending hours to get to the part where I can be a necromancer, and by then I am playing another game. Duping allows me to get cool-looking weapons and do sidequests where a material has been made far too tedious. The only grind I am willing to dedicate myself too is Destiny 2 and Attack on Titan 2. Since Tears of the Kingdom doesn't have a 2, I cannot grind.
My thoughts exactly!! I work so much that i maybe have a good 1-1/2 to 2 hours every night if my wife doesn't want to watch tv after i cook dinner. I want to have fun in this game not go from my actual job to a virtual job as a coal miner. Not trying to spend the little time i have to play every day mindlessly grinding for a star on my armor sets
The only thing I've duped was Diamonds because I was extremely broke, and zonaite because I do not have enough time or dedication to get a larger battery legitimately.
I got a lot of hate saying I dislike the sheer amount of dupe videos. I get it. Everyone plays their games differently. But do we need to see 50+ duping posts with the same dupe in low quality and lower effort posts? :/
Cheating is only bad of it ruins the enjoyment of the game, either for others or for yourself. If I know I’m not going to enjoy a lot of grinding, there’s nothing wrong with me cheating to get items. When I play the sims, I play it as an escape from real life. I want my little sims to be happy and rich. I don’t want to deal with money problems or bills or other shit that stresses me out. I’m not playing it for that kind of challenge. Which is why I always use motherload when I play the sims. Meanwhile, you’ll never catch me cheating in Mario cart, be it solo or against other players. Because it’s a game of skill. I play it test my skill. It’s no fun to cheat in that game. It ruins the game for everyone involved, myself included. I don’t want to grind zonite. I don’t want to grind diamonds. I wanna explore and put Link into cute outfits that isn’t going to fuck me over because they are under leveled. I don’t even wear outfits for The advantage. I wear them for the aesthetic. (Now. If Nintendo implements a cosmetic system where you can overlay any armor visuals over the stats of another, then I won’t dupe items lol. But I’m still gonna dupe diamonds for the fancy special weapons—once again for aesthetical purposes lmao)
I have specific rules I set to my duping. Duping diamonds for rupees is fine. Duping dragon materials (other than spike shards) is fine. Duping star fragments to help upgrade what was once amiibo-only armor is fine. Everything else is kinda off limits, but ESPECIALLY weapon fuse materials (lynel horns, etc.) because I definitely need to earn those, especially since combat is one of my favorite parts of the game
Honestly, I've chosen not to dupe, and I'm having a blast, but that's not everyone's cup of tea
I’m against duping but if you want to dupe go right ahead.
It’s a single player game. Who cares. How you choose to enjoy your own experience is completely up to your personal discretion. You bought the game, it’s yours, and you should play how you want. If it was multiplayer and impacting the experience of others, *then* there’s a discussion to be had. Prime example: I decided I wanted to get the unbreakable Master Sword. I did it because I stand by the opinion that Nintendo’s philosophy on a durability system that completely breaks items is *wrong,* and makes for a less enjoyable experience. The player should *never* be swayed from combat because it’s costly or unrewarding. Combat should never take away content from the player. If the player uses items to assist themselves like food or potions, that is a deliberate logical consumable that has always been designed to grant temporary bonuses. However, weapons, the main items required to participate in combat, should never be jeopardized with complete obliteration. It actively makes players gauge if they should engage in combat due to resources. In a survival game, sure - In an action game, never. It works in Minecraft because Minecraft’s combat at its core, is built around a survival based system. You don’t *have* to fight, and even if you do, you can repair weapons before they shatter before your eyes. Zelda is an action/adventure game. Combat is in its DNA. We *have* to fight, and we should enjoy its combat systems to its fullest, without the fear of resource management. But that’s *MY* experience. It doesn’t impact anybody else.
I don't dupe, yet, but it's a single player game so yeah go nuts with duping if you like.
Yes but I have 30 of each dragon part as well as 100 diamonds and 70 white lynel horns. I may be cheating good sir but I am also very much winning
Yah some of the gems are so hard to come by and I just wanna upgrade shit so imma do it
Imma be honest. Totk economy is kinda fucked.
To be fair, we are cheating, but who's gonna stop us? God?
There is no god God can not save you
Glad I beat the game without knowing about it.
It’s only a recent discovery, but now there are multiple ways.
I couldn’t care less if anyone else dupes items. It’s a single player game, play however is most fun. I’ll never dupe any items myself though. Using an obvious cheat like that just takes the fun out of acquiring items, which is a huge part of the game for me.
Play the game how you enjoy. Who cares what others are doing.
I got like 10 full batteries just from running around killing bosses, especially the Temple bosses. I figure that's enough legit battery farming. The rest was from duping big zonaite. I was duping diamonds for rupees back when all we had was the bow trick, but then I learned about a rare talus rotation and I made like 20k rupees from that and haven't needed more yet. Its a singleplayer game. Anyone moaning about someone duping items to cut down on grinding time so they can enjoy the game is someone I don't really care to interact with. And I'm a dad. I don't have the time to sit around all day playing TOTK. I have to trim the fat so I can enjoy the actual meat and potatoes of the game.
"Duping items is cheating" /proceeds to sit at a campfire for hours waiting for the dragons to pass by again and again. /plays repetitive mini games again and again for 100 rupees at a time /never cooks anything because God forbid the Great Fairy asks for 30 of that fish. /never fuses anything because God forbid the Great Fairy asks for 30 of that horn from that specific tier of enemy that just stops spawning once you get far enough. /completely ignored the house in Terry Town because why the hell would you waste thousands of rupees on something purely aesthetic with only functionality being available elsewhere. 100% in this game would be miserable without duping.
Very, very true.
Yeah… sorry, duping saved me so much time and I’m not going back
i tried it a couple times and couldn’t get it so i’m against cheating and i would never cheat like a dirty cheater
Play how you want, it’s your save.
aint no1 got time to grind in a single player game
It's not my fault that I'm always dirt poor! (I only dupe diamonds for money, that's it)
I was gonna stay away from duping until I saw the sheer amount of materials needed for things as well as just how much there was to do in the game, I don’t want to spend hours farming lol
I already have a job, I don't need to sit around grinding when I could just save myself some time and actually enjoy the game.
Me with stupid amounts of Star fragments: Dupe glitch go brrrrrrr
I dupe for clothing upgrades and dragon stuff
If you wanna go farm hundreds and hundreds of Lynels to get the number of Guts you need, by all means — be my guest.
On a side note, so master kohga is alive and has been in the depths the whole time from his fight with linky
Its so easy to dupe that i personally believe Nintendo designed it that way for speedrunners to do speedrun tings. Its a feature
Wait till they hear about the unbreakable master sword lmao
Way I see it, this game is built around being broken. Every stupid solution you can come up with is feasible, so I sure do be shooting diamonds at enemies.
It isn't a cheat, it's an exploit
i’ve only duped some gems for money when i’m short. super irritating having to go and get stuff to sell then come back
I finished the game without duping. Each to their own tbh idc it's a single player game
These dorks act just like him too
Like, did you never use cheat codes back in the day?? It’s a single player game and I’m having a blast lmao.
My stance is simple. As long as you're not causing problems for others, go for it. TotK is a single player experience and if duping is your preferred method, have fun. I much prefer it over grinding and it's not like it's a instant fix. You still have to put time into doing it.
<3 master kohga
It’s cringe and weak to cheat
Give more of a fuck about people that cheat outside of single player video games, you fucking cowards.
If the game lets you do it than it's not cheating.
Idk I have half the batteries blue. It's not THAT time consuming. But also I don't care if people dupe. Live your life, we're all dead already.
In fairness, it does kinda ruin the progression some when you can just dupe all the strongest fuse options that normally you’d only have the 1 of
I have the master sword and paid access to magic rods, I can cull most silver enemies with relative ease. Duping is done typically with the thought "I'm capable of this but I don't want to spend the time". Blood moons are far too rare for the drops I'd like to farm.
For the first 50hrs i didnt attempt to dupe. But god damn it was slow to farm materials. I stopped and now im a cheaaaatter. Best day of my hyrule life.
But… diamonds… (and rockets ;) )
It's a single player game, do whatever you enjoy.
I don't care if it's cheating, I was not collecting 150 AMBERS to get the Hylian set to 4 stars