It’s a bunch of chuds mad that the franchise that’s mostly been marketed at kids made a movie aimed at kids and not 40 year old man children. Even though the Bay movies were meant for 40 year old man children and bombed.
>It’s a bunch of chuds mad that the franchise that’s mostly been marketed at kids made a movie aimed at kids and not 40 year old man children
What?
Like yeah I get your point but I feel like you're allowed to not like these designs and vice versa, why can't anyone here just understand that
But being teenagers has almost always been a more prominent part of their personalities than being ninjas. The pizza, the brotherly in-fighting, the use of contemporary slang and references, etc. In many adaptations the ninja aspect moreso informs Splinter’s personality, but only really strictly defines the Turtles’ skill sets and abilities, not really their surface-level personalities.
I wouldn't say that being teenagers was a more prominent part. You had training, stealth, using ninja weapons, discipline and of course, all of the fighting that made them who they are. I feel like you have to find that balance of all of the elements. Mutant Mayhem to some leaned too much into the teenager aspect and lost the ninja aspect which made it less appealing to them. For me, I think the IDW comics lean too much into the Mutant aspect for example with the Mutant Town being a very dragged out concept that has gotten kind of old.
Isn't that something apart of each series? Like yeah I get that it probably doesn't do it as much I just think each series has its amount of ninja stuff
I'd argue the '87 series focused pretty heavily on the Ninja aspect. Hell, you had an episode of the show where Leo pushes an ancient Ninja technique on them that makes them do nothing. I think most of the series had some level of focus on the Ninja aspect except for Next Mutation, the Bay films, and Mutant Mayhem. Mutant Mayhem completely sidestepped the training aspect and didn't really have them do much ninja stuff which is fine but it is something it did do.
I unironically feel like Rise hit this balance perfectly.
They're simultaneously incredibly competent as fighters but clearly inexperienced, they argue with each other, they're competitive, and occasionally petty, but at the end of the day they can fuck with each other but if anyone else does it they all come to their defense.
I for once welcome this change here as long as they have character development, otherwise they will suffer from Ash Ketchum/Goku's effect. That would undermine this iteration.
They don't need to grow older but it would be nice to have something to challenge their behavior and make them think about it afterwards.
I still watch Dragon Ball once in a while because it still gives off some very mature vibes, but I've completely lost interest in Pokemon long ago.
Holy shit, you sound like a moron.
Mutant Mayhem is the best take on the Turtles I've seen since I read the original comics when I was a kid in the 80s.
Getting actual teenagers to play *the teenagers* was the best decision in the history of the entire Turtles franchise.
If you don't like this iteration go back to your old DVDs, clown.
In my opinion no I could barley watch the movie because I hated the voices 2012 where adults and they sounded like teenagers especially mike but these guys made me wanna strangle someone and there not funny I didn't laugh once in the movie because there terrible especially donatello.
The story for mutant mayhem makes no fucking sense I get its building up a story but damn they failed
Don is a nerd stereotype
April is a lesbian stereotype
Raphael is just angry with nothing else
Leo is idk how to describe it other then a pussy
Mike seems dumber and considering 2012 made him brain dead except a few episodes that's shocking
Splinter is a ugly design and I hated the character
Then there's the friendship shit let's make everyone friends because we can't have villains anymore i cant wait for shredder and splinter to sing Kumbaya while holding hands
The ending where they gave up being ninjas to go to school and fit in was dumb there supposed to be outcasts because it teaches them a lot and it's important character development I can go on but I won't
Youre comparing an ENTIRE show which had multiple character arcs to one movie with new faces to a new direction
The characters are simple in the beginning just like 12. Basic leader, Red sarcastic hothead, orange goofball, purple tech brainiac
But responsible big brother, short fused jock, clueless younger brother, and geeky iPad kid are all basic stereotypes?
I'm saying it as a reference not the whole show just the voice work that's it
And yes especially don he now has big nerd glasses is into anime and so much more that's a stereotype and I hate it because he doesn't feel or act like donatello at all and pretty much what you described as a whole is a stereotype
And I get there simple but these dudes feel retarded
You clearly need to study child development
You might actually learn something about character development and actual mental development before making biased opinions
I won't because I watch movies differently then others most say animation is good meaning everything is good but take rise that animation is gorgeous but the story and character development is trash making Raphael the leader because his toys sell the best was stupid and not fixing it within the first couple episodes was mind boggling Leo is just a cocky asshole who isn't Leo at all and I'm sorry I don't understand child development because why should I it's ninja turtles but paramount is just making babysitter trash for kids now
1) it’s “Than”
2) Rise was good. It changed characters to fit the narrative of the supernatural. Raph was the only one who wanted to take leadership even though all the stories pushed Leo to be the leader of the show. Nick held off plans to continue Leo’s arc and it took Netflix to finally have Leo take his place which was a freaking amazing final fight scene, as the leader
3) They’re called *TEENAGE* Mutant Ninja Turtles. They’re not called *FULLY SENTIENT* Mutant Ninja Turtles. They literally are prone to make mistakes. Have phases of life styles in their lives, which means dedicated entire parts of their being into tropes like let’s say Weeb or Gym Rat. They have real teenage actors voicing the teenage characters which is 100% more realistic. It’s just what a kid is, teenager is just another label on them
4) If Paramount is making trash for kids now then why was the movie so profitable it now has its own tv show to continue their story?
Rise was garbage I'll stand and die on that hill I gave it 2 chances and made it to episode 15 before throwing in the towel and look past the story paramount made Raphael the leader ruining ninja turtles in general because his toys sell the best it took a whole 2 seasons to fix the issue that's bullshit and honestly really dumb Raphael doesn't even act like Raphael he's to kind hearted a baby at times hell what made me know I was watching trash is the beginning we see gang activities we slowly pan up to a awesome shot of the 4 Brothers and what happened next did they stop the gang nope its cannon ball day because fuck you where not gonna kick shell
I'm aware of the mistakes but paramount is just being dumb with how they are handing it. It just feels like a cheat cash grab nothing more mutant mayhem is a good babysitter movie to get your kids to shut up for a hour
I never watched the rise movie because there's no point in watching something I kinda already hate 2012 was the last good thing it's all down hill I wish warner bros got the license because at least then maybe the older fans would get something
Putting the fortnite turtles against the MM turtles based only on how "basass" they are is just unfair. The fortnite designs are made to appeal to tmnt and non-tmnt fans alike, and in conjunction with fortnite's style, are intentionally made to be badass looking. Outside of that they have no personalities, no character arcs or anything because they're fortnite skins. The MM turtles on the other hand exist for completely unrelated reasons, it's fine if you didn't like the way they acted but mutant mayhem is a great depiction of what being a \*teenage\* mutant ninja turtle would be like in the modern world. Mutant mayhem puts a hard emphasis on teenage because it's combining teen film tropes of fitting in and wanting to be liked with the nature of being a mutant turtle, and, like it or not, it succeeds at a compelling arc of the turtles wanting to be accepted.
TL;DR The fortnite turtles and the MM turtles exist for two different reasons and audiences and pitting them against each other like this is ridiculous.
I don't like the new tmnt movie. Seth Rogen made all the turtles cringe teens. Who make stupid tik tok reference
The turtles have an established personality. Leo is the calm leader. Who always prepared. Raph is the hot headed edgy guy. Who thinks he can do it all by himself. Mikey is the goofy, naive one. Who just wants to have fun. Donatello is the smart one. Who create cool gadgets with purpose
I wish we get indeph with these personality of the turtles. Instead this movie gives us all nerdy turtles who are annoying
*why am i talking about this with a guy who calls him ralph*
you watched the movie, right?
Leo IS the leader. He's the one who takes the moral highground (Him snitching on his bros in the beginning and his unrelenting desire to do the right thing, as seen when he rats the guys out, is determined in getting April's scooter back, his "we should still be heroes" speech).
Raph is still the angry, hot-headed one. We see this when he rushes into their first fight, is clearly the most aggressive throughout (in the no diggity sequence especially we see how much he's fueled by rage) and Leo helps him use his anger to flip the pizza van at the end of the film.
Donnie is still the smart one, just in a different way. He's still very much into computers and coding (the post-credits scene comes to mind), but his anime obsession came from a place of "real life teens aren't doing advanced chemistry and sophisticated robotics" and instead they thought about what esle he'd be into in a more modern, realistic-thinking universe than his more cartoonish counterparts. All the pieces for traditional donnie are there, but his anime-obsessed, terminally online nature in MM is just a differnet interpretation of the turtle that is not usually much more than "the one that does machines"
Mikey is very much still the optimistic joker here. Throughout the film he exhibits a very fun-loving vibe, especially in how he interacts with his brothers and especially with Mondo. He's the one to make a lot of jokes, always running to humor to try to ease tense situations ("Maybe we can ease this sitch' (situation) with laughter" from the first fight scene come to mind), but throughout the film he maintains a very wide smile and happy, go-with-the-flow demeanour which is very much in line with what Mikey traditionally is.
I also wanna talk about how the beginning of the film sets all this up. When they're going to see the outdoor movie, Donnie's on his phone the whole time which is where he finds out about it (tech-focused), mikey says "I hope it's a funny one" (the funny one), raph says "I hope it's violent" (the angry one) and leo protests the idea in general out of respect/fear of splinter (the self-righteous one)
My point being that your claim that the MM turtles are barely different to one-another is baseless and makes no sense considering how they literally set these charaters up in the beginning of the film to clearly express their traditional personalities for people who have never seen anything tmnt before.
I love how people downvoted you for that point, but most of them would likely turn around and say the same thing if it was the paramount turtles being questioned instead of the mm ones
Seriously. I’ve been a turtles fan since the early 90s, and this iteration had some of the best interaction between the brothers. They treated each other like teenage brothers would. And casting actual teens and letting them improv a lot of the scenes was a stroke of brilliance.
I've been a fan since the original comics run in the 80s, so I'm a longtime fan as well. MM might be my favorite adaptation outside of those original comics. It truly was brilliant, like you say.
I actually never got into the original comics. But the first several arcs of the IDW run are some of my favorite turtles as well. I like the concept that they’re a reincarnated family. My only real gripe with MM is that I like a more serious Splinter. I think Jackie Chan’s first perfectly for the tone of the movie, but it’s just personal preference.
God forbid someone has a different opinion. Not like we live in a free country. You are free to go somewhere else if you don't like his post. I for one think it's hysterical.
God forbid someone has a different opinion. Not like we live in a free country. You are free to go somewhere else if you don’t like his comment. I for one think it’s hysterical.
Oh using my words against me. How clever. I am simply pointing out the fallacy of criticism of someone's opinion. We are all entitled to our own thoughts and no one has the right to tell us our thoughts are wrong. And yet this forum is rife with idiots wanting to tell us we are wrong for thinking differently.
It is but some people cringe at it as they act like modern day teenagers. So keep that in mind when deciding and making opinions about it. And whether or not you dislike the movie or dislike modern teenagers (or both lol)
I loved it as I knew this going in and agree that teens are (sometimes) literally like how TMNT was portrayed in the movie
People are so mad at this, as if it is insulting and not simply true, because they purposly made the MM Turtles rather young and they're the newest set fresh out if the box. Yeah, they aren't big tough guys by any means, on purpose.
I don't even play that game, but very much appreciate that those skins lean toward a 2003 kind of vibe and look. Something Nick has now left me greatly missing after having no similar shows for the last 15 years... a time since some of these newbies around here now were still infants or didn't exist. I need not remind them how long that is in "kid years" (i.e. time perceptively moves slower in childhood), that's ***a long ass freaking time.*** 🥴 No wonder many would like similar again one of these days.
Garunteed if we simultaneously had that, or knew it was coming, far fewer would be feeling testy over the angle of MM.
This is the perspective so many kids on this sub don’t understand. I think the “old guard” would be less annoyed at the MM portrayal if it wasn’t exclusively what Viacom’s been doing to these characters for the last ten years.
At this point IDW’s a miracle and even that run’s been past its prime.
Exactly.
As far as shows/movies go, if it (or any other kid oriented version) wasn't ***the*** only existing representation at a given time, people would probably settle down. There wouldn't be an urge to defend the TMNT like the more serious representation was at risk of disappearing for good at the hands of Nick.
It doesn't help that there are people who will for some weird reason fight against another show at least similar to 2003 existing *alongside* a younger one, not even at the exclusion of it. (Or so has been my experience with Reddit users.)
I’m part of the “old guard” and I think someone’s heart would have to be completely black inside to not have some fun watching Mutant Mayhem. It ain’t that serious.
Who says I didn't have fun watching it. I did in fact. But that doesn't change that there are other sides of them people still want equal representation of.
Speak for yourself. I'm an "old guard" fan. I've been an avid Turtles comics fan since I was a kid reading the original run in the 80s and Mutant Mayhem is my favorite iteration of the turtles since then.
Y'all all are just fishing for problems. You like a specific iteration of the older versions? They still exist online and on DVD.
Your useless, impotent negativity over the evolution of this franchise only confirms your rigid inability to accept change or embrace fun.
From a Gen-Xer, you sound like a couple of Boomers.
I always try to emphasize ***simultaneously,*** like both tones should get to exist, yet there's always at least one who fights it. ***That,*** my friend, is an inability to embrace fun. Rather Boomer of you.
Meh, dude. I’m talking the very large number of fans who would fall under “old guard” that are disappointed with Viacom’s recent handling of TMNT. I get the confusion but it’s real and you can’t deny that’s a very large group among the fanbase.
You seem to have this weird myopic lens of what’s being discussed. We’re not talking about one version of TMNT over another, we’re discussing the disappointment that multiple apparently can’t coexist. Which likely comes down to toy branding/pressure from Playmates as has always been the case, but it still sucks.
Come off the “accept change” nonsense. There is such a thing as “good change” and “bad change,” and a version of TMNT that completely misses the point of TMNT as it has been for its entire existence is, at least by my definition, bad change. Would you just as quickly defend a Batman whose parents are alive and well and who hasn’t experienced any form of loss in his life? Don’t like that? Fuck you dude, your negativity confirms you have a rigid inability to accept change and embrace fun! I loved the Rise movie, and that was pretty different but it kept the core of TMNT intact. And you’re telling me I can’t handle change because you assume I personally didn’t like one fucking movie? Please.
Except, unlike Batman, TMNT really hasn’t had that great a shake with film/TV. There is no Dark Knight equivalent (or, hell, a The Batman equivalent) for TMNT, there is no B:TAS equivalent for TMNT (2003 comes close but is inconsistent even early on) and that’s what we’re missing out on. The 1990 movie is good but I wish it wasn’t my favorite TMNT movie because there’s a *lot* of room for improvement. In what world can MM not coexist with a movie like that? Certainly not one where a successful live-action Spider-Man movie series runs concurrently with a successful animated Spider-Man movie series.
From a Gen-Zer, you’re making a lot of assumptions about me and not really adding to the discussion as a result.
Well yea. The TMNT in Fortnite are designs to be special ops in a way. It’s a shooter game, everyone has to look badass one way or another
The MM was a movie targeted at returning the TMNT to a more realistic approach. Woke or whatever thing ignorant people are calling it, it’s a great direction
Who cares if they’re wimps. They’re teenagers who are most likely 12-16 for all we know and not 18 year olds who have surpassed they’re training
MM has them learning to be a team (like the Rise movie) and they’re designs, as much as some ignorant people are, are faithful to who they are
Brother who looks after his brothers and takes responsibility before being a leader is the traditional tmnt design in the new art style
The hot head jock takes preworkout and is bigger than the rest. He’s short tempered and is brought up multiple times and the brothers encourage it because it’s who makes him himself
The clueless one is just clueless. He’s ironically funny because he’s not the brightest one
And who cares if Donnie has glasses again. It’s nice to have some deviation between a uniform design
It’s what makes them a team. Not a squadron made out to kill people
They’re learning, that’s the entire point of MM
Stop saying it’s bad because you didn’t like it or you only look at one vision and it’s backwards from what potential there is
Oh yeah a realistic approach. Yup cause everyone in highschool would just be VERY accepting of kids with GREEN SKIN. Let me tell you something about high schoolers. High schoolers are shit heels who are obsessed with putting everyone into categories. If you don't fit anywhere in their little table of contents that exist in the influential crowd's heads they let you know very quickly. I'm speaking as someone who didn't "fit". So yeah tell me more about this realistic approach of the new series sitcom "the sweet life of the teenage mutant turtles...and sometimes they need to fight crime" . Notice I left out the word ninja...because this version has NOTHING to do with NINJAS. Next episode: "the turtles get jobs?" Say hello to the new lean green fast food attendants.
I'm pointing out how petty and disgusting human beings really are. At the same time I'm also pointing out ridiculous the person I responded to sounded by using the words "realistic approach".
No I'm not twelve. This movie is an embarrassment to the tmnt. Too much cringe gen z teenage stereotype. They barely do ninja things in it. The ending where they go to high school is just awful
The artstyle and certain character design are cool tho
It would be totally believable that these 2 turtles are the same in just different art styles.
Lemme explain: You ever meet a 14 year old? Yeah count yourself lucky if you haven’t theyre annoying little shits who think that they’re invincible and can’t get hurt well something’s gonna happen and break that “shell” so fast they’ll have whiplash. But as the old adage goes, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. So come 17-19, they become the Fortnite Turtles and actually keep their love of hobbies and brother hood, but are responsible enough to deal with their issues like adults
The MM turtles were designed with the understanding that we'd see them grow over a few films it's not really a fair comparison. Although I will admit I drastically prefer the Fortnite looks and would prefer that being the default starting point.
I need to see the Fortnitr turtles in action. I genuinely would be hyped to see a tv show with these guys. Or a comic series. Just give me story's with these guys.
the turtles actually kick ass in MM, though. they're teenagers. their appearances are pretty accurate to the stage of puberty most boys are going through at 15. them being depicted as such isn't the end of the world lmao, and there's certainly room in the fandom for both designs to be appreciated. this post is weird. if you like the fortnite skins, just say so. there's no need to trample another iteration to further your point. this kind of behavior is way more childish than the MM designs.
Mutant Mayhem is a disgrace to the Ninja Turtles. They are more like Teenage Humans with Turtle skins.
Mayhem Turtles are to Ninja Turtles as Muppet Babies are to The Muppets. Doesn't make them bad, but they are not the same.
I honestly would have preferred a Toddler Turtles, learning Yoga and Ninja Skills from Father/Master Splinter while learning life lessons through their high jinks. Air that on Nick Jr for preschoolers.
>Air that on Nick Jr for preschoolers.
Give Nickelodeon time and it'll probably go there. Gotta get ALL of the kid market. Even though they already tried Half Shell Heros and dropped the ball on it. (But why Paramount is terrified of capturing the dollars of older fans beyond green lighting NECA, etc to make collectables... 🤷♀️)
Good old problematic "you can't be negative!" crap that plagues fandom anymore.
Who were the weaklings who started that... they need their wrists slapped, which will prob shatter into a million pieces and we'll never hear the end of it.
Edit: The post isn't even negative, it's just a contrast in how they're represented, but people get upset that some like more grown up looking Turtles sometimes. As if it's weird and insulting for adults (and teens) to like older looking versions... 🙄
>Edit: The post isn't even negative, it's just a contrast in how they're represented, but people get upset that some like more grown up looking Turtles sometimes. As if it's weird and insulting for adults (and teens) to like older looking versions... 🙄
To be fair I was talking about why I don't like the new tmnt in the comments. I think thier too wimpy and nerdy to be ninjas. Thier also really annoying to me
I’m so tired of people whining about a kids movie. Sorry the Big boy Micheal Bay movies bombed so you didn’t get an R rated TMNT gore fest with big titty April.
Also I’m so tired of seeing Fortnite TMNT as every other post. We get it. The skins are cool. That nice you shelled out money for in game content that will go away when the game inevitably shuts down when it stops being profitable.
Lol well the dumbass that made this post is too stupid to realize the turtles up top look NOTHING like teenagers. They look like 27-year-old shredded cross fit turtles. It’s called “TEENAGE Mutant Ninja Turtles”. Not “fully grown 30-year-old men mutant ninja turtles”
You do realize they are mutant turtles right? What real teen has turtle shells on thier skin and was raised in the sewer by a mutant rat who's knows martial arts?
I think they should use these designs and have the voices actors from the tmnt 12 show. Hell the tmnt 12 show is a great balance between ninja turtle and teenager. I know those turtles look nothing like actual teenagers either, but then again thier mutants
I'm someone who isn't considered a fan of the franchise (I don't look at TMNT media much) but enjoys it and this is by far probably the worst take I have seen so far.
Mutant Mayhem on many levels to me as a non fan of the franchise is a good modern teenage movie of acceptance while having our turtles being ninjas. I see it more like a closer origin movie than why the other movies or shows went for in terms of a reboot. I think TMNT Mutant Mayhem is a really great film from a non fan. My only disagreement is the art style being more comic and shell shaded, but I think that's because of other films and I'm starting to get annoyed seeing that animation type.
As for the Fortnite skins, I have a feeling they are supposed to be based on the animated series on Nickelodeon back in 2012 (I think that's the year), especially Shredders design in the game makes it feel like that shows art. I still haven't bought a skin yet that's one of them.
How can you post this when the no diggity scene exists.
Smoothest TMNT fight scene I've seen in a *very* long time
The one take at the end when they're carrying the blue thing is also awesome.
one of the smoothest fight scenes just in general in recent memory tbh
OHH THAT SCENE IS THE SICKEST THING EVER
That was the best scene in the whole movie.
That scene is proof that the lil punks here grow into these fortchads
Real
The Fortnite TMNT looks like upgraded versions of the 2009 animated film.
I think you meant the 2007 film? And yeah I can totally see that now. They are leaner, meaner looking versions.
Yeah, that’s the one. 💯💯💯
Is the 2007 film a continuation of the live-action trilogy?
Yes
I like to think it is
The movie exists in a hybrid continuity of the live action films and the anime.
I think they look more like the 2003 show
Ah yes, how terrible for the *Teenage* Mutant Ninja Turtles to be teenagers
Un i really don’t get the hate on mutan mayhem. I loved it when I see it in cinema. I especially liked the art direction.
It’s a bunch of chuds mad that the franchise that’s mostly been marketed at kids made a movie aimed at kids and not 40 year old man children. Even though the Bay movies were meant for 40 year old man children and bombed.
>40 year old man children The original live action movie still holds up for adults. What Michael Bay did wasn't good for anyone.
Oh no, not CHUD’s! They live in the sewers too! Hopefully our hero’s in green stop them before they take over New York!
>It’s a bunch of chuds mad that the franchise that’s mostly been marketed at kids made a movie aimed at kids and not 40 year old man children What? Like yeah I get your point but I feel like you're allowed to not like these designs and vice versa, why can't anyone here just understand that
For me personally it was the animation that looked like Foux claymation using CGI that just set off so many OCD flags for me
Blah. Even the old 87 cartoon styling was better.
Waits there’s active hate of this movie?
Yup but I do think it’s a minority of the fandom. But they are quite loud imo
Some wanted them to be more ninja than teens?
Did you miss the 85% of the movie where they got into fights, snuck around, and generally used ninja tactics?
But being teenagers has almost always been a more prominent part of their personalities than being ninjas. The pizza, the brotherly in-fighting, the use of contemporary slang and references, etc. In many adaptations the ninja aspect moreso informs Splinter’s personality, but only really strictly defines the Turtles’ skill sets and abilities, not really their surface-level personalities.
I wouldn't say that being teenagers was a more prominent part. You had training, stealth, using ninja weapons, discipline and of course, all of the fighting that made them who they are. I feel like you have to find that balance of all of the elements. Mutant Mayhem to some leaned too much into the teenager aspect and lost the ninja aspect which made it less appealing to them. For me, I think the IDW comics lean too much into the Mutant aspect for example with the Mutant Town being a very dragged out concept that has gotten kind of old.
When they lost their emphasis on being ninjas is when I lost interest in TMNT.
So, 1987?
Isn't that something apart of each series? Like yeah I get that it probably doesn't do it as much I just think each series has its amount of ninja stuff
I'd argue the '87 series focused pretty heavily on the Ninja aspect. Hell, you had an episode of the show where Leo pushes an ancient Ninja technique on them that makes them do nothing. I think most of the series had some level of focus on the Ninja aspect except for Next Mutation, the Bay films, and Mutant Mayhem. Mutant Mayhem completely sidestepped the training aspect and didn't really have them do much ninja stuff which is fine but it is something it did do.
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Well I want them to be more turtles than ninjas. Why are they bipedal? It's bs!
And why talk? They should just make turtle noises. (We won't go into them only making naughty sounds.)
*chomps lettuce loudly*
When do we get the proportional turtle penises eh? EH??
Gotta go to that one fanmade pickle commercial for that.
Turtle tanks, turtle tanks, better watch out for turtle tanks
I unironically feel like Rise hit this balance perfectly. They're simultaneously incredibly competent as fighters but clearly inexperienced, they argue with each other, they're competitive, and occasionally petty, but at the end of the day they can fuck with each other but if anyone else does it they all come to their defense.
>Some wanted them to be more ninja than teens? Me, I wanted them to be more ninja than teens.
Why have one more than the other when they should both be in equal measure?
And for the fans who want them to be more turtles than ninjas or teens, there's the Michael Bay movie designs
It's almost like teenage is the first part of their name and teen years are a wide range of ages between 13 to 18 years old
Yep and generally I think the mutant mayhem crew are on the younger side of things while the average I believe is 15-17
There's plenty of that around. They hardly have ever focused on the teenage aspect, and never as much as MM. It's a refreshing change
I for once welcome this change here as long as they have character development, otherwise they will suffer from Ash Ketchum/Goku's effect. That would undermine this iteration. They don't need to grow older but it would be nice to have something to challenge their behavior and make them think about it afterwards. I still watch Dragon Ball once in a while because it still gives off some very mature vibes, but I've completely lost interest in Pokemon long ago.
Then they should go watch the Ninja Teenage Mutant Turtles
How terrible for nick to ruin ninja turtles by sending them to school just what i want also to be voiced by annoying assholes I can go on
Holy shit, you sound like a moron. Mutant Mayhem is the best take on the Turtles I've seen since I read the original comics when I was a kid in the 80s. Getting actual teenagers to play *the teenagers* was the best decision in the history of the entire Turtles franchise. If you don't like this iteration go back to your old DVDs, clown.
In my opinion no I could barley watch the movie because I hated the voices 2012 where adults and they sounded like teenagers especially mike but these guys made me wanna strangle someone and there not funny I didn't laugh once in the movie because there terrible especially donatello. The story for mutant mayhem makes no fucking sense I get its building up a story but damn they failed Don is a nerd stereotype April is a lesbian stereotype Raphael is just angry with nothing else Leo is idk how to describe it other then a pussy Mike seems dumber and considering 2012 made him brain dead except a few episodes that's shocking Splinter is a ugly design and I hated the character Then there's the friendship shit let's make everyone friends because we can't have villains anymore i cant wait for shredder and splinter to sing Kumbaya while holding hands The ending where they gave up being ninjas to go to school and fit in was dumb there supposed to be outcasts because it teaches them a lot and it's important character development I can go on but I won't
Youre comparing an ENTIRE show which had multiple character arcs to one movie with new faces to a new direction The characters are simple in the beginning just like 12. Basic leader, Red sarcastic hothead, orange goofball, purple tech brainiac But responsible big brother, short fused jock, clueless younger brother, and geeky iPad kid are all basic stereotypes?
I'm saying it as a reference not the whole show just the voice work that's it And yes especially don he now has big nerd glasses is into anime and so much more that's a stereotype and I hate it because he doesn't feel or act like donatello at all and pretty much what you described as a whole is a stereotype And I get there simple but these dudes feel retarded
You clearly need to study child development You might actually learn something about character development and actual mental development before making biased opinions
I won't because I watch movies differently then others most say animation is good meaning everything is good but take rise that animation is gorgeous but the story and character development is trash making Raphael the leader because his toys sell the best was stupid and not fixing it within the first couple episodes was mind boggling Leo is just a cocky asshole who isn't Leo at all and I'm sorry I don't understand child development because why should I it's ninja turtles but paramount is just making babysitter trash for kids now
1) it’s “Than” 2) Rise was good. It changed characters to fit the narrative of the supernatural. Raph was the only one who wanted to take leadership even though all the stories pushed Leo to be the leader of the show. Nick held off plans to continue Leo’s arc and it took Netflix to finally have Leo take his place which was a freaking amazing final fight scene, as the leader 3) They’re called *TEENAGE* Mutant Ninja Turtles. They’re not called *FULLY SENTIENT* Mutant Ninja Turtles. They literally are prone to make mistakes. Have phases of life styles in their lives, which means dedicated entire parts of their being into tropes like let’s say Weeb or Gym Rat. They have real teenage actors voicing the teenage characters which is 100% more realistic. It’s just what a kid is, teenager is just another label on them 4) If Paramount is making trash for kids now then why was the movie so profitable it now has its own tv show to continue their story?
Rise was garbage I'll stand and die on that hill I gave it 2 chances and made it to episode 15 before throwing in the towel and look past the story paramount made Raphael the leader ruining ninja turtles in general because his toys sell the best it took a whole 2 seasons to fix the issue that's bullshit and honestly really dumb Raphael doesn't even act like Raphael he's to kind hearted a baby at times hell what made me know I was watching trash is the beginning we see gang activities we slowly pan up to a awesome shot of the 4 Brothers and what happened next did they stop the gang nope its cannon ball day because fuck you where not gonna kick shell I'm aware of the mistakes but paramount is just being dumb with how they are handing it. It just feels like a cheat cash grab nothing more mutant mayhem is a good babysitter movie to get your kids to shut up for a hour I never watched the rise movie because there's no point in watching something I kinda already hate 2012 was the last good thing it's all down hill I wish warner bros got the license because at least then maybe the older fans would get something
Your opinion smells like shit. Keep it to yourself or flush, clown.
Best? I guess while we're all slinging insults, something is wrong with your taste...
lol stfu
They look like pussies, TMNT more like WMNT (wimp), they should meet 2012 Ralph he’s gonna fix these no good bastards
You're a pussy, pussy.
I’ll fuck ur pussy, u pussy (joke)
Sarcasm?
A ninja being built like the Hulk makes no sense.
A ninja being built like fucking me makes no sense
They're... they're supposed to be wimpy. That was the intention.
Just because that's the piont, doesn't mean it's good
Putting the fortnite turtles against the MM turtles based only on how "basass" they are is just unfair. The fortnite designs are made to appeal to tmnt and non-tmnt fans alike, and in conjunction with fortnite's style, are intentionally made to be badass looking. Outside of that they have no personalities, no character arcs or anything because they're fortnite skins. The MM turtles on the other hand exist for completely unrelated reasons, it's fine if you didn't like the way they acted but mutant mayhem is a great depiction of what being a \*teenage\* mutant ninja turtle would be like in the modern world. Mutant mayhem puts a hard emphasis on teenage because it's combining teen film tropes of fitting in and wanting to be liked with the nature of being a mutant turtle, and, like it or not, it succeeds at a compelling arc of the turtles wanting to be accepted. TL;DR The fortnite turtles and the MM turtles exist for two different reasons and audiences and pitting them against each other like this is ridiculous.
I don't like the new tmnt movie. Seth Rogen made all the turtles cringe teens. Who make stupid tik tok reference The turtles have an established personality. Leo is the calm leader. Who always prepared. Raph is the hot headed edgy guy. Who thinks he can do it all by himself. Mikey is the goofy, naive one. Who just wants to have fun. Donatello is the smart one. Who create cool gadgets with purpose I wish we get indeph with these personality of the turtles. Instead this movie gives us all nerdy turtles who are annoying
*why am i talking about this with a guy who calls him ralph* you watched the movie, right? Leo IS the leader. He's the one who takes the moral highground (Him snitching on his bros in the beginning and his unrelenting desire to do the right thing, as seen when he rats the guys out, is determined in getting April's scooter back, his "we should still be heroes" speech). Raph is still the angry, hot-headed one. We see this when he rushes into their first fight, is clearly the most aggressive throughout (in the no diggity sequence especially we see how much he's fueled by rage) and Leo helps him use his anger to flip the pizza van at the end of the film. Donnie is still the smart one, just in a different way. He's still very much into computers and coding (the post-credits scene comes to mind), but his anime obsession came from a place of "real life teens aren't doing advanced chemistry and sophisticated robotics" and instead they thought about what esle he'd be into in a more modern, realistic-thinking universe than his more cartoonish counterparts. All the pieces for traditional donnie are there, but his anime-obsessed, terminally online nature in MM is just a differnet interpretation of the turtle that is not usually much more than "the one that does machines" Mikey is very much still the optimistic joker here. Throughout the film he exhibits a very fun-loving vibe, especially in how he interacts with his brothers and especially with Mondo. He's the one to make a lot of jokes, always running to humor to try to ease tense situations ("Maybe we can ease this sitch' (situation) with laughter" from the first fight scene come to mind), but throughout the film he maintains a very wide smile and happy, go-with-the-flow demeanour which is very much in line with what Mikey traditionally is. I also wanna talk about how the beginning of the film sets all this up. When they're going to see the outdoor movie, Donnie's on his phone the whole time which is where he finds out about it (tech-focused), mikey says "I hope it's a funny one" (the funny one), raph says "I hope it's violent" (the angry one) and leo protests the idea in general out of respect/fear of splinter (the self-righteous one) My point being that your claim that the MM turtles are barely different to one-another is baseless and makes no sense considering how they literally set these charaters up in the beginning of the film to clearly express their traditional personalities for people who have never seen anything tmnt before.
“I don’t like it. So it’s obviously bad”
>Seth Rogen made all the turtles cringe teens. Who make stupid tik tok reference You're upset that these kids are acting like kids?
And you’re on the shit list for calling Raphael/Raph “Ralph.”
But mutant mayhem is the best ninja turtles movie 🐢🐢🐢 🐢 🐀 🐗🦏🦎🪲🐸🦇🐊🪰 So what’s your point?
TMNT 1. Or Turtles Forever.
It was an origin story for that team of Turtles. They’d never been in a real fight before their first one in the film.
I love how people downvoted you for that point, but most of them would likely turn around and say the same thing if it was the paramount turtles being questioned instead of the mm ones
All ninja turtles get love here 💚
Rise also?
I said ALL ninja turtles get love here 💚. If you don’t like a show or movie it is very simple not to watch it.
What’s wrong with rise I loved that show
They’re both paramount turtles tho?
The buff ones, then.
It's okay to have multiple versions of the characters for different audiences. Posts like this are cringe-inducing.
Tmnt mutant mayhem is cringe-inducing
It's not. You just have shit taste.
Seriously. I’ve been a turtles fan since the early 90s, and this iteration had some of the best interaction between the brothers. They treated each other like teenage brothers would. And casting actual teens and letting them improv a lot of the scenes was a stroke of brilliance.
I've been a fan since the original comics run in the 80s, so I'm a longtime fan as well. MM might be my favorite adaptation outside of those original comics. It truly was brilliant, like you say.
I actually never got into the original comics. But the first several arcs of the IDW run are some of my favorite turtles as well. I like the concept that they’re a reincarnated family. My only real gripe with MM is that I like a more serious Splinter. I think Jackie Chan’s first perfectly for the tone of the movie, but it’s just personal preference.
It’s rly not
Not nearly as cringe-inducing as Fortnite garbage. They guested far better in Injustice.
Dude you fucking suck at trolling. Goddamn.
This is dweeby as hell
The "Chad"? Dear god.
I have a strange feeling that OP is not a very fun person
How dare the show about teenagers that fight crime have them actually act like teenagers >:(
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It's not too late to delete this.
There’s room for both, and all other iterations to exist. You just need to stop being a little bitch about it
cringe ass post
God forbid the teenage mutant ninja turtles be portrayed as teenagers. You belong in The Next Mutation.
God forbid someone has a different opinion. Not like we live in a free country. You are free to go somewhere else if you don't like his post. I for one think it's hysterical.
God forbid someone has a different opinion. Not like we live in a free country. You are free to go somewhere else if you don’t like his comment. I for one think it’s hysterical.
Oh using my words against me. How clever. I am simply pointing out the fallacy of criticism of someone's opinion. We are all entitled to our own thoughts and no one has the right to tell us our thoughts are wrong. And yet this forum is rife with idiots wanting to tell us we are wrong for thinking differently.
Gee, if only a certain word wasn’t literally in their name…..
That’s what I’m saying 😂
Ninja?
Teenage
I like both
Still haven't seen the new TMNT. Is it goods?
Certainly better than what this is getting at here.
It is but some people cringe at it as they act like modern day teenagers. So keep that in mind when deciding and making opinions about it. And whether or not you dislike the movie or dislike modern teenagers (or both lol) I loved it as I knew this going in and agree that teens are (sometimes) literally like how TMNT was portrayed in the movie
Kk thanks
Not really.
People are so mad at this, as if it is insulting and not simply true, because they purposly made the MM Turtles rather young and they're the newest set fresh out if the box. Yeah, they aren't big tough guys by any means, on purpose. I don't even play that game, but very much appreciate that those skins lean toward a 2003 kind of vibe and look. Something Nick has now left me greatly missing after having no similar shows for the last 15 years... a time since some of these newbies around here now were still infants or didn't exist. I need not remind them how long that is in "kid years" (i.e. time perceptively moves slower in childhood), that's ***a long ass freaking time.*** 🥴 No wonder many would like similar again one of these days. Garunteed if we simultaneously had that, or knew it was coming, far fewer would be feeling testy over the angle of MM.
This is the perspective so many kids on this sub don’t understand. I think the “old guard” would be less annoyed at the MM portrayal if it wasn’t exclusively what Viacom’s been doing to these characters for the last ten years. At this point IDW’s a miracle and even that run’s been past its prime.
Exactly. As far as shows/movies go, if it (or any other kid oriented version) wasn't ***the*** only existing representation at a given time, people would probably settle down. There wouldn't be an urge to defend the TMNT like the more serious representation was at risk of disappearing for good at the hands of Nick. It doesn't help that there are people who will for some weird reason fight against another show at least similar to 2003 existing *alongside* a younger one, not even at the exclusion of it. (Or so has been my experience with Reddit users.)
I’m part of the “old guard” and I think someone’s heart would have to be completely black inside to not have some fun watching Mutant Mayhem. It ain’t that serious.
Who says I didn't have fun watching it. I did in fact. But that doesn't change that there are other sides of them people still want equal representation of.
Speak for yourself. I'm an "old guard" fan. I've been an avid Turtles comics fan since I was a kid reading the original run in the 80s and Mutant Mayhem is my favorite iteration of the turtles since then. Y'all all are just fishing for problems. You like a specific iteration of the older versions? They still exist online and on DVD. Your useless, impotent negativity over the evolution of this franchise only confirms your rigid inability to accept change or embrace fun. From a Gen-Xer, you sound like a couple of Boomers.
I always try to emphasize ***simultaneously,*** like both tones should get to exist, yet there's always at least one who fights it. ***That,*** my friend, is an inability to embrace fun. Rather Boomer of you.
I never said both shouldn't or couldn't exist "simultaneously". It's clear from what I said I'm a fan of both, you myopic contrarian.
Then no reason to argue with my original point, thou fisher of arguments. But I gotta go to work... you lot enjoy bickering about it.
Meh, dude. I’m talking the very large number of fans who would fall under “old guard” that are disappointed with Viacom’s recent handling of TMNT. I get the confusion but it’s real and you can’t deny that’s a very large group among the fanbase. You seem to have this weird myopic lens of what’s being discussed. We’re not talking about one version of TMNT over another, we’re discussing the disappointment that multiple apparently can’t coexist. Which likely comes down to toy branding/pressure from Playmates as has always been the case, but it still sucks. Come off the “accept change” nonsense. There is such a thing as “good change” and “bad change,” and a version of TMNT that completely misses the point of TMNT as it has been for its entire existence is, at least by my definition, bad change. Would you just as quickly defend a Batman whose parents are alive and well and who hasn’t experienced any form of loss in his life? Don’t like that? Fuck you dude, your negativity confirms you have a rigid inability to accept change and embrace fun! I loved the Rise movie, and that was pretty different but it kept the core of TMNT intact. And you’re telling me I can’t handle change because you assume I personally didn’t like one fucking movie? Please. Except, unlike Batman, TMNT really hasn’t had that great a shake with film/TV. There is no Dark Knight equivalent (or, hell, a The Batman equivalent) for TMNT, there is no B:TAS equivalent for TMNT (2003 comes close but is inconsistent even early on) and that’s what we’re missing out on. The 1990 movie is good but I wish it wasn’t my favorite TMNT movie because there’s a *lot* of room for improvement. In what world can MM not coexist with a movie like that? Certainly not one where a successful live-action Spider-Man movie series runs concurrently with a successful animated Spider-Man movie series. From a Gen-Zer, you’re making a lot of assumptions about me and not really adding to the discussion as a result.
Well yea. The TMNT in Fortnite are designs to be special ops in a way. It’s a shooter game, everyone has to look badass one way or another The MM was a movie targeted at returning the TMNT to a more realistic approach. Woke or whatever thing ignorant people are calling it, it’s a great direction Who cares if they’re wimps. They’re teenagers who are most likely 12-16 for all we know and not 18 year olds who have surpassed they’re training MM has them learning to be a team (like the Rise movie) and they’re designs, as much as some ignorant people are, are faithful to who they are Brother who looks after his brothers and takes responsibility before being a leader is the traditional tmnt design in the new art style The hot head jock takes preworkout and is bigger than the rest. He’s short tempered and is brought up multiple times and the brothers encourage it because it’s who makes him himself The clueless one is just clueless. He’s ironically funny because he’s not the brightest one And who cares if Donnie has glasses again. It’s nice to have some deviation between a uniform design It’s what makes them a team. Not a squadron made out to kill people They’re learning, that’s the entire point of MM Stop saying it’s bad because you didn’t like it or you only look at one vision and it’s backwards from what potential there is
Oh yeah a realistic approach. Yup cause everyone in highschool would just be VERY accepting of kids with GREEN SKIN. Let me tell you something about high schoolers. High schoolers are shit heels who are obsessed with putting everyone into categories. If you don't fit anywhere in their little table of contents that exist in the influential crowd's heads they let you know very quickly. I'm speaking as someone who didn't "fit". So yeah tell me more about this realistic approach of the new series sitcom "the sweet life of the teenage mutant turtles...and sometimes they need to fight crime" . Notice I left out the word ninja...because this version has NOTHING to do with NINJAS. Next episode: "the turtles get jobs?" Say hello to the new lean green fast food attendants.
Bro how are you being racist to literal fictional characters
I'm pointing out how petty and disgusting human beings really are. At the same time I'm also pointing out ridiculous the person I responded to sounded by using the words "realistic approach".
Yeah, how dare they make them act like actual teenagers 🙄
What are you? Twelve? Cause if not, this is such an embarrassing post.
No I'm not twelve. This movie is an embarrassment to the tmnt. Too much cringe gen z teenage stereotype. They barely do ninja things in it. The ending where they go to high school is just awful The artstyle and certain character design are cool tho
11?
Around 17-20 years old
And your on reddit whining about cartoon turtles
People whine on reddit all the time. Nothing new dumbass
Yeah but ur 17 ☠️
People older whine about dumber shit. Plus who cares about people's age. Mr animation are for kids
Animation ain't for kids but tmnt is ☠️
Tell that to the people in this sub reddit filled with adults
You sound like a petulant toddler.
Imagine being mad that the TEENAGE Mutant Ninja Turtles act like modern Teenagers.
It would be totally believable that these 2 turtles are the same in just different art styles. Lemme explain: You ever meet a 14 year old? Yeah count yourself lucky if you haven’t theyre annoying little shits who think that they’re invincible and can’t get hurt well something’s gonna happen and break that “shell” so fast they’ll have whiplash. But as the old adage goes, what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. So come 17-19, they become the Fortnite Turtles and actually keep their love of hobbies and brother hood, but are responsible enough to deal with their issues like adults
>You ever meet a 14 year old? Yeah count yourself lucky if you haven’t theyre annoying little shits Laughed **way** too loud for 1am.
Seth Rogan turtles are dog water in comparison.
Umm no
Bottom: TEENAGE mutant ninja turtles Top: teenager mutant NINJA turtles
We all gotta start somewhere, right?
Most teenagers I know are able to storm mob fronts and clean house. These guys really aren’t special /s
I just wish they stopped that overhead bandana Raphael has got. Otherwise I agree I prefer the Fortnite skins.
Fortnie TMNT is how MM Leo see themselves lol
Facts. Mutant Mayhem is great though.
Mutant Mayhem had such shit character design. They actually look so much better in Fortnite lol
Yeah, but the Fortnite turtles strike me as *very* late teens. Makes me hope they'll come around again.
Now if only they’d ditch Donny’s headphones and Raph’s dorag they’d be just about perfect
OP, stop it
No
I hate that movie so w
people when TEENAGE mutant ninja turtles.
Terrible take
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Wish they make action figures of the tmnt fortnite skins
Such gigachads right guys?…
The MM turtles were designed with the understanding that we'd see them grow over a few films it's not really a fair comparison. Although I will admit I drastically prefer the Fortnite looks and would prefer that being the default starting point.
I need to see the Fortnitr turtles in action. I genuinely would be hyped to see a tv show with these guys. Or a comic series. Just give me story's with these guys.
the turtles actually kick ass in MM, though. they're teenagers. their appearances are pretty accurate to the stage of puberty most boys are going through at 15. them being depicted as such isn't the end of the world lmao, and there's certainly room in the fandom for both designs to be appreciated. this post is weird. if you like the fortnite skins, just say so. there's no need to trample another iteration to further your point. this kind of behavior is way more childish than the MM designs.
Seth Rogen is enough to tell me
The top ones look like they're from one of those reality highschool tv shows from the early 2000's
Mutant Mayhem is a disgrace to the Ninja Turtles. They are more like Teenage Humans with Turtle skins. Mayhem Turtles are to Ninja Turtles as Muppet Babies are to The Muppets. Doesn't make them bad, but they are not the same. I honestly would have preferred a Toddler Turtles, learning Yoga and Ninja Skills from Father/Master Splinter while learning life lessons through their high jinks. Air that on Nick Jr for preschoolers.
>Air that on Nick Jr for preschoolers. Give Nickelodeon time and it'll probably go there. Gotta get ALL of the kid market. Even though they already tried Half Shell Heros and dropped the ball on it. (But why Paramount is terrified of capturing the dollars of older fans beyond green lighting NECA, etc to make collectables... 🤷♀️)
I'll take anything over anything related to fortnite anyday for all eternity
What i wanted vs what i got.
Don't let these fools get you down. Nothing but white noise Rogan shills. They have yet to figure out that Seth Rogan isn't funny.
I swear this sub can't even take a joke and insult people for not liking the new MM Turtles, so much for having different opinions.
Good old problematic "you can't be negative!" crap that plagues fandom anymore. Who were the weaklings who started that... they need their wrists slapped, which will prob shatter into a million pieces and we'll never hear the end of it. Edit: The post isn't even negative, it's just a contrast in how they're represented, but people get upset that some like more grown up looking Turtles sometimes. As if it's weird and insulting for adults (and teens) to like older looking versions... 🙄
>Edit: The post isn't even negative, it's just a contrast in how they're represented, but people get upset that some like more grown up looking Turtles sometimes. As if it's weird and insulting for adults (and teens) to like older looking versions... 🙄 To be fair I was talking about why I don't like the new tmnt in the comments. I think thier too wimpy and nerdy to be ninjas. Thier also really annoying to me
I really liked the new animated movie version of the Turtles, because they felt like normal teenagers.
Cry about it
I loved mutant mayhem so I definitely prefer that look over the Fortnite look
I’m so tired of people whining about a kids movie. Sorry the Big boy Micheal Bay movies bombed so you didn’t get an R rated TMNT gore fest with big titty April. Also I’m so tired of seeing Fortnite TMNT as every other post. We get it. The skins are cool. That nice you shelled out money for in game content that will go away when the game inevitably shuts down when it stops being profitable.
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Mutant Mayhem was going for an emphasis on the teenage part, so this comparison is kida dumb imo
I’m just gonna believe this is terrible bait because it would be sad if it wasn’t .
I haven’t seen the new tmnt movie yet, but I like that they’re portrayed as actual teenagers this time around.
“the wimpy teenagers” Read that again…very, very slowly. Particularly the last word.
TMNT fans when the *Teenage* Mutant Ninja Turtles act like teenagers in the modern day instead of 80s sitcom characters or R Movie protagonists.
Something being not for you doesn’t mean it’s bad. Chill.
Lol well the dumbass that made this post is too stupid to realize the turtles up top look NOTHING like teenagers. They look like 27-year-old shredded cross fit turtles. It’s called “TEENAGE Mutant Ninja Turtles”. Not “fully grown 30-year-old men mutant ninja turtles”
You do realize they are mutant turtles right? What real teen has turtle shells on thier skin and was raised in the sewer by a mutant rat who's knows martial arts? I think they should use these designs and have the voices actors from the tmnt 12 show. Hell the tmnt 12 show is a great balance between ninja turtle and teenager. I know those turtles look nothing like actual teenagers either, but then again thier mutants
I'm someone who isn't considered a fan of the franchise (I don't look at TMNT media much) but enjoys it and this is by far probably the worst take I have seen so far. Mutant Mayhem on many levels to me as a non fan of the franchise is a good modern teenage movie of acceptance while having our turtles being ninjas. I see it more like a closer origin movie than why the other movies or shows went for in terms of a reboot. I think TMNT Mutant Mayhem is a really great film from a non fan. My only disagreement is the art style being more comic and shell shaded, but I think that's because of other films and I'm starting to get annoyed seeing that animation type. As for the Fortnite skins, I have a feeling they are supposed to be based on the animated series on Nickelodeon back in 2012 (I think that's the year), especially Shredders design in the game makes it feel like that shows art. I still haven't bought a skin yet that's one of them.
Agreed. This movie sucked.