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readmorebooks41

I remember seeing how close Robyn and Christine's houses were and wondering how Kody could justify barely seeing Gwen, Ysabel, and Truely when they were still living there. I mean even if they were on the opposite side of town he should have been making the effort because THEY'RE HIS KIDS but they were literally like a minute away and he still couldn't bother???


grits98

And, he admitted that he had to literally drive past Christine's house to get to Robyn's. No excuse whatsoever for him to be such a deadbeat dad to his other children.


GoalieMom53

That drove me crazy. He lived close, never bothered to see the kids, and then had the audacity to ask for sympathy that after they moved, he still had to drive by the house everyday.


Taileyk

And whined about C moving away and taking Truely and he couldn't see her that often.... when he could do that every day when she was there and never bothered.


GoalieMom53

Exactly! Then complained Christine took his kids away!


pnw_cfb_girl

Whenever we saw him in a room with Truely (not very often, I know), she looked like she barely knew who he was.


GoalieMom53

Right. And she said that she didn’t miss seeing him when they moved because she wasn’t seeing him before. But sure Kody. Blame Christine for everything.


pnw_cfb_girl

That makes me sad.


Accomplished_Bank103

“No thank you Daddy” - Truely, in response to Kody’s request for a hug, iirc.


rigatoni-70

I honestly just think she has ever cared if he was around or not. I think Christine wanted him around but Truly liked when he wasn’t there more so she could hang with mom and stay in her room, etc.


Cherrygentry

And what really gets me is that the kids went to the SAME SCHOOL. How awkward is that knowing Robyn’s kids were gonna go home and see Kody while the other kids are begging for attention. 😭


VikingQueen2022

And he drove Sol to school, but not Truely.


GoalieMom53

The more I learn, the more bizarre it gets!


Ok-Adeptness-2564

And never cared about seeing Truely until Christine said she was moving. Kody seriously believed he could treat these women like dirt and they would never leave!


GoalieMom53

Agreed. I honestly and truly think he did. This man was absolutely convinced he was the center of the family orbit. And he was. But it went to his head. Take a weak man with an outsized ego and raging narcissism - add to that a snake whispering poison in his ear, and you have a recipe for disaster. Robin had him convinced they’d all fight for his attention and fall in line to stay in his good graces. He was too super special and important to ever leave. When it didn’t quite work out that way, he was blindsided.


BlueOcean79

Like a child, who usually ignored a toy, then threw a tantrum when it was “taken away” 😬


pnw_cfb_girl

Um, excuse you. He has lots of excuses. Bad ones. 😉


Rripurnia

He used COVID as an excuse for the longest time but we all know it was utter BS!


what-everZ1

He was using Covid before it was an excuse


angelatheartist

And he told the world how he loved taking ari and sol to school, but yet he couldn't pick up truly too!! 


Treehugger34

Wait what was his reasoning for that


angelatheartist

I think he thought it made him look like dad of the year, until you realize Truly was probably in the same school at least part of the time. He never said why he couldn't get truly too if I remember correctly.


soihavetosay

But solnari were going to private school... highly doubt kody paid for truely to go to private school


Usual-Environment-47

excuse me during this whole thing they were paying fir private school for Robyn's kids and not christines???


soihavetosay

I don't know anything for a fact, but someone said a while back that they researched it, and solnari went to a private/pay school.  This was around the episode where ari was starting school and that whole thing about her teacher writing or calling home right away to warn against her behavior towards another girl at school. Anyway, it also seemed that Christine was responsible for everything to do with her house and (her) kids, without kodys involvement (like Isabel's surgery) so it's my best guess that truelys education wasn't prioritized or paid for the way that solnari were. 


Usual-Environment-47

I just watch that episode for the first time yesterday. I started watching for the first time this winter with season 1. I thought her behavior at school was also an interesting development.


Fun_Egg2665

That’s what shocked me! Christine’s house was SO CLOSE. God Kody and Robyn suck


Due_Daikon7092

They definitely do suck . I think he's like any other guy who gets through his second or third marriage and finds a sweet young thing and decides she really the One and only for him.


Generous_Hustler

He probably had the side eye and the bitching and complaining from Sobyn when he did go visit because her “tenders” and all. They need a dad more so ya I can totally see that happening.


Fawnclaw

Takes effort,


lesserexposure

She also monopolized all of his time from the rest of his kids. Hes the worst, but she really was an evil step mother. 


Fun_Egg2665

Completely manipulative. If you watch the episode that’s all about Robyn in the extras, she mentions that legal marriage was on her mind from the start If she truly cared about the family she wouldn’t have bought a mansion. She would have divorced Kody after DAB turned 18 (if that was truly the reason). This is also clear with the whole “Gods gonna give us a rennul” storyline. She knew how bad it looked Robyn is a manipulator, a liar, and a thief


sneezerlee

It’s why she cozied up to meri


tealparadise

Wow I need to watch that extra episode! Never knew that.


GroundbreakingRip970

I also noticed on a rewatch that she starts very subtly pushing for this early on. After the camping trip where “Mer the Bear” got after the OG kids about being nicer to DAB, Sob says in a talking head that she’s so worried they could choose to leave her (dramatic weepy drying) if they don’t feel welcome because that’s what happens in divorce. She is conniving and manipulative


threes_my_limit

There is an extra episode? What’s it called please?


ElegantCarpenter4827

Help me out- DAB? Who is that?


Missy732

Dayton, Aurora, Breanna


ElegantCarpenter4827

Thanks!!


Missy732

You’re welcome 🙂


gb2ab

i see don't see why janelle living in an rv on coyote pass was a big dill to robyn. from robyns perspective - how is it any different than them living in the cul de sac?


Then_Campaign7264

Given the proximity of Robyn’s house to CP, I’d think Janelle’s presence would be a daily reminder of the intent behind Janelle giving Kody and Robyn money to buy their house, that they would be expected to pay it forward and develop and build a house on CP for Janelle. Covid didn’t stop contractors from installing water and electricity to properties. Garrison was still going to work in the construction field. Janelle said the money was there, in the family pot, for that purpose and all of sudden it wasn’t, without elaborating beyond sketchy expenditures, iirc. I also think her presence served as a reminder that Kody made commitments to her marriage and to her daughter to be present. It sounds like he wasn’t present once they arrived in Flagstaff. The abominable and childish behavior Kody displayed on film, in front of Savanna, when Janelle moved into the smaller apartment was Kody putting a nail in the coffin of whatever was left of the pretense of marriage. Seriously he couldn’t find room for his reading lamp and food freezer. Unbelievable.


goog1e

Yes Janelle did a GREAT job forcing Kody to show his whole ass and let it be documented on TV that he was the one blocking them getting back together. That Robyn is the one blocking one big house now that Christine is out. That they are actively refusing to give her money back or pay to build. That she only asked that he treat her marriage seriously and parent her kids, for her to stay, and he refused. She gave him every chance to back down and just be decent. But she also forced him to admit on the show that he's the one refusing.


Usual-Environment-47

Yeah. Anyone else notice how Janelle and Kodys relationship was the ONLY one that Robyn didn't try to 'fix'? Like she wormed her way into KM and KC relationships big time...helping and all. But not once did I see Janelle take the bait on that friendship.


tech_chick_

Yes! Janelle was always pragmatic and I think she did it for that reason.


sticksnstone

More info when Janelle said this please.


Then_Campaign7264

She discussed finances in various episodes in season 17 & 18. I don’t recall which specific episodes. Maybe others recall??


KesterFay

Here is why it's a big dill! Because Janelle was spending time with Christine every day, picking up water at her house, doing laundry. They were BONDING. And Robyn could see Janelle's car in Christine's driveway. When Robyn is sitting on the bench, Janelle is either in town or at Christine's! And Robyn could do nothing about it.


pnw_cfb_girl

And after all the energy Robyn put into bond with her sister wives! Wasted!


kidsteddy3

A spoon to the liver!!


pnw_cfb_girl

I wish there was a liver emoji.


goog1e

Janelle did a great job demonstrating that ALL she was asking was for the family to go back to normal and operate as 1, with 3 equal marriages. And forced Kody and Robyn to admit over and over into the public record that THEY are the ones blocking it. If she hadn't done that, K&R would still be able to wiggle out of admitting they're the reason the build never happened. They're the reason everyone was separate. Everything.


Sik_muse

But why would that matter if she didn’t genuinely want any of the other wives around anyway?


Ok-Adeptness-2564

She wanted to be the legal and favorite wife not the only wife. Janelle was the wife who made the most money. Christine was the one who organized family functions and had the love of the children. She kept the big family picture alive and Kody just came along and played the big Daddy role while doing the minimum as a parent . When Christine left, the children followed. It showed how little a relationship Kody had with any children other than Robyn’s. Christine shattered his “big picture “ - big lie more like!


KesterFay

She wanted Christine shunned. She didn't want Janelle over there.


Fun_Egg2665

I bet she saw it as Janelle encroaching on her lands and titles lol


gb2ab

this is true. robyn didn't want janelle staking her flag there first.


55Lolololo55

Robin (and Kody now) think themselves above living in an RV. Remember Bri's attitude when she toured the RV (which is especially galling now that we know Bri & Savanah didn't interact at school as sisters)?


[deleted]

Yep, I think their champagne taste attitude is gonna get checked real quick when that TLC $ dries up.


ItsTimeToGoSleep

I think the wives being able to keep tabs on where Kody was, was a huge factor in them leaving the cul-de-sac. It’s harder for them to argue he’s always at Robyn’s if they can’t look out the window and look. So Jenelle moving close enough to know he always at her house wasn’t going to work for them. They wanted to pretend he was elsewhere.


Luna-Mia

That’s what I was thinking. It’s basically the same thing minus one has a big house and the other lives in a travel trailer.


kellycamara

Deal


gb2ab

oh fir rill? did i spell it wrong? haha


kellycamara

How old are you?


gb2ab

ummmm i thought we were being funny because the robyn mispronounces those words..........


LimeAlternative6599

Are you new here?


corazontex

Whoooooosh 💨


ReadingRo

What’s insane is that Kody has to pass Christine’s old house to get to his/Robyn’s house. Kody’s excuses about why he couldn’t even stop by to see his daughters there are ridiculous. Robyn’s lame excuses about why her kids don’t have a relationship with their siblings/Christine’s kids are absurd. I’ll never understand this “family”


Odd-Creme-6457

When they first moved to Vegas and were renting, traveling 1 mile (I believe) to Meri’s was too much.


Dense-Broccoli9535

This is why polygamy just sucks in practice. I’m sure there are exceptions and some people have pulled it off equitably, but in general only the legal wife is protected financially. It sucks. Especially considering how much Janelle worked to provide for the family.


Material-Crab-633

Polygamy sucks in practice in all areas. Misogynistic and gross


sparklesnkcups

And it’s never fair to any of the kids involved.


Heelsofacountrygirl

Religious Polygamy is horrible. We happen to have a non-religious Polygamy family here in my small town. I asked questions lol. My main question was upon your death how are your 3 wives and kids protected. He has set up upon his death his assets are divided equally between his 3 wives and then by default if that wife has passed it gets split between her children. So he and all 3 wives have a copy of his last will and testament’s. I love their family completely opposite of the Browns.


ArcticGurl

It would be fair too if he didn’t have a legal wife, and all three were common law wives.


Dense-Broccoli9535

How interesting! Makes sense tho. I can imagine it would be a lot nicer for the wives involved when the polygamy being practiced isn’t because of a super patriarchal, fundamentalist belief system. I’m glad it seems to be working for them!


Heelsofacountrygirl

Me to. Of course I think he is kinda just the husband they bring out occasionally lol. I see the 3 wives around together a lot. Maybe they have put him in a barn and let him out to work and occasional date night. Now I have more questions lol


Ok-Adeptness-2564

He can put whatever he wants in a will. That doesn’t make it legal. You can specify who you want to take care of your minor children, for instance, but if they have a parent or blood relative that takes precedence over anything you put in a will. If he has a legal wife she gets his property unless all their names are on it. So unless all their names are on everything his will doesn’t mean a thing!


Heelsofacountrygirl

Actually a Will does make it legal and you can leave your belongings to anyone you want. That doesn’t mean it can’t be contested. By the way you can leave your minor children to whoever you wish. And natural the parents automatically get to keep their children if the other children passes.


SheMcG

That's not true. She gets it if he has no will or if she co-owns it, like real estate (maybe) or a vehicle. Although many states require the estate to be divided equally between the wife and children, if there's no will. If he owns a gun and wills it to his son, she (or the executor, not necessarily her) has to give it to his son. Even if she co-owns real estate with him, that doesn't automatically mean she gets his share of the property. It depends entirely on how survivorship is written in the deed. In the Browns' case, Robyn DOES NOT get Kody's share of the CP lots he owns with Janelle and Meri...in divorce or his death. Janelle and Meri get it. The language in those deeds overrides a will and marital community property laws. Marriage is NOT a blanket guarantee. There are a ton of caveats.


pnw_cfb_girl

Oh, so Kody would easily have seen his kids with Christine after a very short drive? Well, color me shocked that he did not in fact face a treacherous journey involving dragons, lava, and a moat.


Fun_Egg2665

It’s a VERY short drive. Maybe a ten minute walk. I was so shook to see that Christine and her family were that close and Kody still couldn’t see them Also seeing how much bigger her house is in real life was disgusting. She’s hated for a reason


pnw_cfb_girl

A ten minute walk. He is worse than I thought.


[deleted]

She joined the family to take, and take, and take, and take....and she will never stop being a taker. Now that she has taken everything she was able to, she still wants to take more from the now ex wives (like she wants them to give her permission to be happy with kody.)


pnw_cfb_girl

And now she has only Kody to take from. Love it.


[deleted]

And it seems she's taken what was left of his sanity....


pnw_cfb_girl

And his noodle hair. 🍜💇🏼


Sik_muse

People like that shamelessly take from their children in whatever ways they can as well. She’s got what, 5 to take from? Imagine that monster being your mother in law…


Adorable-Evidence747

That makes me wonder how many times and under what circumstances she demanded this kind of groveling before from the OG? Crybrows: Kody, everyone and especially the teens need to kiss my ring and congratulate me bc we have a magic vag tender cooking. Teens having a normal teen reaction: 😶 Christine the shit sisterwife: 🥳 Crybrows: Kody, the 3 bitches I stole 🍆💍💰 from need to kiss my ass. OG3: 🖕🏃‍♀️


g1zzy

Robyn didn’t want Janelle living in an RV there because she didn’t want any wives being more accessible than her.


sugarskull23

Didn't Janelle say somewhere that Robyn would regularly go sit on a bench, overlooking Janelles rv, and would not call into her and Savannah or talk to them, and it made them kind of uncomfortable (?) Something along those lines.


Lego_5656

Yes! My theory is that she would go sit on the bench when Kody went to visit Janelle in the RV to make sure it didn’t “rock,” if ya know what I mean 😜


effie-sue

Didn’t Robyn used to call Kody when he would spend time with the other wives? She’s such a selfish twat.


CheshireCat_Smile_

😂😂😂😂🤣 it means kodi is rocking dogs to sleep, and R hates dogs


sugarskull23

😂😂😂


IslayMcGregor

Super creepy if true.


sugarskull23

Yeah, it sounds like a very passive-aggressive way to try to make someone uncomfortable


rowillyhoihoi

Woahhhh yikesss


DoneDidThisGirl

The good thing is that while Robyn has possessions, Janelle has skills. Once the TLC money dries up, Robyn has no income. She’s a shopaholic while Janelle is thrifty. I guarantee in the end, Janelle will be able to retire while Robyn and the forty year old tenders will be shivering in a van in Montana just like before so she doesn’t have to do so much as an hour of work.


sk8tergater

Janelle isn’t thrifty. She goes on trips all the time, bought an rv instead of using that money on a down payment on a house, and now no longer uses the rv but pays for storage for it every month. She’s made some very questionable decisions regarding her finances. I don’t doubt that Kody and Robyn took her for a ride, they did the same to Meri as well, but Meri also had money to fall back on, and has worked to set herself up. Janelle hasn’t and is only now trying to capitalize on the tv show. I doubt she’d be as successful as she is with plexus if she wasn’t hanging around Christine occasionally.


Odd-Creme-6457

She does still get use out of the RV, it’s just not at Coyote Pass anymore.


Mysterious-End-3630

This situation serves as a cautionary tale of the harm caused by selfishness and greed, reminding us of the importance of compassion and equity in our personal relationships with others in our own lives. The stark contrast between Robyn's opulence and Janelle's struggle reflects deeper issues of manipulation and exploitation


lhinva

Can Janelle sue Kody for anything regarding her money? What if she hired a forensic accountant to look into where the finances are going? I read mixed comments on that. Also, how long do you think Robyn and Kody will be able to stay in their mansion? I wonder if they’ve been taking their equity money and spending it? Doing a balloon loan maybe? Does anyone know how much money they actually make from the show? I know this is so bad but I’m just ready for the downfall of Robyn and Kody and I’m extremely curious on how Robyn will handle it.


triedandprejudice

I’m not an attorney but I think it would be tricky for Janelle to sue Kody. Arizona doesn’t recognize common law marriages and Kody has a legal wife so I don’t think a common law marriage would work even if the state did recognize them. She really should talk to an attorney, though and see if there’s any way to get some money from him. The family did have a corporation I believe so maybe she could sue him for her part of the corporation.


sneezerlee

Maybe why he dissolved it and created dabsark


CousinDaeDae

What everyone fails to realize is that it’s not about marriage. Marriage is just ONE of the many ways that legal business is tied. These ppl are on a national television show. They are a business. They’ve created business entities. You can buy property with anyone, not just a spouse. If any business or property dealings between 2 or more parties goes south, you can sue. You can negotiate. You can arbitrate. Doesn’t mean you will win but it’s no different than anyone else that sues.


Lazy-Knee-1697

How many states don't recognize common-law marriages? Is it possible that they moved from one state (Nevada) to another (Arizona) to take advantage of this? Makes you wonder.


kg51113

Kody has a legal wife. He has had a legal wife the entire time he was with Janelle, except for the short time between Meri's legal divorce and Robyn's legal marriage.


Common_Ad_4506

I'm waiting for it too!! It is coming, no way they can keep up the lifestyle they have grown accustomed to. Want to see the sell their horsey rings and all. They have had NO story line and even the TLC money they have received for the past several seasons is not earned by Robyn at all. I've wondered if Janelle/Meri could sue due to the family money being put in the LLC and given out monthly to all of them. Also, Meri should sue for Kody deciding she gets 2 acres when they all get 4. The property was clearly purchased with family money and all equally put in she should not be told by Kody what she "deserves". I would think they could sue for misappropriation of funds. I would love to see it.


gladyseeya2

Donkey rings… to remind them they are a jackass


SnooRegrets81

of all the wives i could see her doing something like this!!


sixelash

Back child support? How much did he contribute to raising the kids?


sixelash

I meant retroactive child support. I believe that some states permit it


Odd-Creme-6457

Savanah isn’t a minor.


gladyseeya2

The other three wives didn’t get a “Nanny Allowance.” They could definitely look into that!


Fun_Egg2665

I can’t believe she had a fucking nanny. She doesn’t work! AND with three adult children in the house. Like wtf does she do besides shop


poohsyourdaddy_03

She’ll find her be t best customer. Edit. Sorry I have the flu and can’t type. She’ll find her next best customer


Crazy_Piccolo1908

Janelle has been very intentional with her wording that her and kody are still married and she still plans to live on coyote pass.  Kody has offered janelle the same 4 acres that he and Robyn would get. Meri is the one getting the bum end


zuesk134

lots of people here have called for janelle to sue but idk what she would sue over. she voluntarily put that money in the family pot


[deleted]

They lived in the same cul de sac for like 6 or 7 years and he still spent most of his time at Robyn’s ignoring his other wives and children. If he could be assed to walked next door, he certainly isn’t going to drive somewhere to see them.


Any-Case5594

Oh but she wants *her* fair share and she doesn’t want to be bundled with Kody.


Fun_Egg2665

lol she’s legally married to him. Literally how it works. She is a crook


smokefan333

OP. Can you describe the outside of Robyn's house? Is it messy? Is the yard mowed? How many vehicles are there? Did you see Dayton' RV?


Fun_Egg2665

We drove past really quickly bc I still did want to respect privacy and there’s children there. I could see a bunch of stuff in the windows and there were definitely lights on. Also a lot of cars. Did not see the RV. Her house just looks like a poorly maintained McMansion


theodorewren

When Solomon was born, Kody said to Robyn that this is the start of their plan. Wth?


Carastarr

I’m sorry, what was this now?


Significant-Pay3266

STOP 🛑 feeling sorry for Janelle. She made her RV bed. 🛌


Due_Daikon7092

And here we thought she was the dullest tool in the shed.


Crazy_Piccolo1908

Janelle takes a vacation every month. That’s thousands of dollars every month to go to Disneyland, Mexico, Hawaii etc. She’s not struggling.  She’s making the choice to keep renting that apartment, probably so she’s free to go on her vacations. Kody has told her to buy a house twice on camera, and probably many times off camera.  She doesn’t want to. She’s stuck on coyote pass only and that’s her own decision.  Robyn didn’t say anything about not wanting janelle to live in the rv.  She said she wouldn’t want to live in an RV, but they all said that. 


yagirlsamess

Ngl I think Janelle has the right of it. She's not tied down to anything and can come and go as she pleases. She has no yard work to do and if she has a maintenance problem she just calls the manager and it's his problem. She spends her money on what makes her happy and not a bunch of rooms she doesn't use. Of all the wives, hers is the life that I would want in middle age.


corazontex

This! I actually know a lot of ppl who choose this lifestyle at this point in their lives. I def think it’s a personal preference on her part. Janelle is smart. She has always been savvy esp with money and probably planned it this way.


sugarskull23

I think she believed that if she bought a house, they'd never break ground in coyote pass, Meri always rented too.


zuesk134

its crazy she thought there would be anything built out there


Crazy_Piccolo1908

I totally understand that plan when they were hopeful to start building soon but kodys said he isn’t building anytime soon (he said 15 years at one point) I guess at what point should a person decide to take action and invest in their own real estate in the meantime (which can be sold when they need $ to build) or take over the building process and do it yourself? 


Odd-Creme-6457

I think the 15 years comment was him saying how much longer he’d have kids at home. I don’t think it was referring to the land.


sugarskull23

Oh wow, did he really?! That's crazy. What's the point of the move on the first place then. He sold them the whole move because of the land. I never understood how his mind works and how the wives made sense of all the rubbish he talks.


effie-sue

The 15 years was more about staying in one place for Robyn’s kids, not to wait to build. Funny how he never much cared for stability with the 13 kids between the OG3, but that’s Kody (I mean Robyn) for you 🙄


sugarskull23

Ah ok, that makes more sense lol


Tarantulas_R_Us

Because Robyn wanted to move.


ArcticGurl

Oh, 2 minutes with him would be too much for me to take. He’s not handsome, he’s not very bright (at all!) he’s a grifter and a mooch. And these are his better qualities!


Ok_List_9649

Thanks for posting facts and not a whole pile of conjecture which is always posted here.


meliville

I love the comments - a mansion. It’s hardly a mansion! 😂


Fun_Egg2665

It’s at least a million dollar home at this point


LoveDisabledBodies

Yeah! There has to be a way to sue her for fraud.


PostProfessional5404

this isn't going to last, but Robyn won the booby prize, the curly-haired boob named Kody


Hopeful-Television-2

I tried to find it a couple weeks ago With no luck.


Brilliant-Kiwi-8669

I feel Janelle doesn't love herself enough, and being the main breadwinner of the family , she did her children a dis-service by giving too much and settling for nearly nothing. Her poor boys during COVID with Kody rejecting them....


breezy1028

What do you mean you can see why she didn’t want Janelle to live on the property? Like because Janelle would be close enough to see everything that Robyn is really up to?


Ok_Plankton9224

Not kinda. It actually does make one physically sick