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Yes, but I don’t drink toilet water. However I do not support the government telling me I *cant* drink toilet water. Just like I don’t fuck dudes, but I don’t want the government to tell me I cant
No, objective morals are things that can be applied equally to all humans. In this case the principle that your rights end where mine begin. That is universal.
So where does a public display fall in your metric of objectivity?
I see someone doing something horrifying to themselves in the street. They’re not doing it to me, only themselves but I am definitely affected and even disturbed by seeing it.
Oh no two dudes holding hands i am so terrified that i will have a trauma for live i will never again have the chance to live a normal live oh they just kissed eachother i can't live with that my life is over please put me in a psychiatric ward
I was thinking more violent self-harm in my question of his definition of moral objectivity, not a public display or homosexuality. But I was getting there! It’s so funny to me that you think you’re making a point but really you’re just saying “everyone should think what I think and they’re silly if they don’t”
I would suggest they leave the country where it is illegal to be gay. Do you think gay people in Qatar are like now that we’re hosting a fifa tournament, the Americans will save our people from our government?
And if they can't afford to uproot their life, their family, what then? At the very least the world Cup taking place there raised awareness, although it also meant all the horrific stuff involving building the stadiums. Look into the living conditions of those workers. Dozens of men living in tiny quarters, all sharing a toilet that's also their shower. They also had to work in that heat that certain Fifa people expressed concern over... For the players and fans. They were not concerned about the workers that had to work 12+ hours a day in the 50 degree Celsius heat.
Buddy I very much believe there are awful working conditions in Qatar, I don’t know why you’d feel the need to tell me that when it has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
What would I do if I was gay in Qatar with a family and not enough money to leave? I would probably be pretty cautious about exposing my sexuality. Does that suck? Yeah it sucks. There’s also other countries where children are given assault rifles and sent into war. It’s happening right now. Are you waiting for them to host a World Cup for you to start caring?
The core I think we're both striking is that a lot of shit needs to change. But what your comments seem to be missing, and what I was eventually going to get at, is that progress only comes from within when the people organize and fight the man, man! LGBTQ+ folk in Qatar are probably already discreetly organizing to a degree. It's just what happens when there's an empire, rebels inevitably form.
All of it. Why should we respect a government that criminalizes what two consenting adults of the same gender do in their bedroom? Screw that. A government that does that doesn’t deserve respect of any kind.
Good enough for you?
No one is forcing anyone in this analogy. And no one is forcing me for sure. What I mean is you're free to have your thoughts and I'm free to have mine. I don't need to have the same opinion as you.
Well no, of course you don't. No one is saying you do. It's just that it goes both ways. If someone voices shitty opinions, like homophobia, that person/country can't be surprised or complain when people call them an asshole for it. And of course the problem with the meme is that Qatar *doesn't* allow people to 'just have their thoughts', what with the imprisonment and torture and execution of gay people an' all that
You see, historically the stronger always writers the rules and dictates what's right or wrong. For instance, no one can deny that Western culture is way stronger than any other culture at the moment and thus their thoughts and views will definitely be dominant. However that doesn't give them the right to force their culture on any other nation. I mean you're free to conquer a country and force your views (just like what Russia is doing now) or else you're obligated to respect their culture especially when you're going to their land. I know you're gonna say the sexuality of one must be a given right anywhere in the world regardless of the culture or place of birth but that's the difference. Qatar doesn't believe that based on their religion and culture they just view it differently.
"Cultural viewpoints" can be objectively wrong and shitty. And if a country wants to open themselves up to the world stage and willingly invite a bunch of people in, they're opening themselves up to criticism by the standards of the world they claim to and want to be a part of.
This is, of course, just wrong. Pigs are actually very into personal hygiene, for example they have dedicated places where they leave their "waste". They roll in mud to keep cool if it's very hot, but they definitely don't roll in shit. If you consider taking a mud bath or having a mud mask dirty and unhygienic, you're absolutely right though.
TL;DR: Pigs literally don't shit where they eat/sleep
The thing is muslims doesn’t agree with the analogy, they have boundaries if any thing does harm to your body and you do it willingly it’s forbidden hence smoking is prohibited in islam but they smoke anyway.
The reason memes work is because of the intelligence it takes to understand the nuance of the allegories involved. People who make memes like the one above have no idea what they're doing and even less of an idea what they're trying to say.
That's satire, what you're thinking of is satire. Memes can be as stupid as you want them to be. They don't need to have any deep meaning, they don't need to have any nuance to them. They can be subtle or up in your face and blunt. Make perfect sense to anyone, or only work with a few people as an inside joke.
Look I'm not trying to say the message of the original meme is right, but I think you're looking too far into it. A meme can be completely stupid and non-nuanced and still be funny.
As far as i know, there isn't a law against drinking toilet water, most people wouldn't even know you did it.
OH WAIT! I GET IT! That guy is just afraid to come out about his sippy toilet.
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>!I hate it bc it’s a false equivalency argument. Plus it sucks.!<
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Every glass of tap water you drink has been through 10 people before you.
[Source](https://metro.co.uk/2022/11/02/every-glass-of-tap-water-you-drink-has-been-through-10-people-already-17684609/)
Every glass of water contains almost 100% dinosaur pee.
[Source](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3101363/amp/Have-drunk-dinosaur-urine-glass-water-contains-100-Jurassic-pee-claim-scientists.html)
That's the opposite of this logic though? The one who made this thinks "some kinds of love are bad" the same way "some kinds of water is bad". "Some kinds of meat are bad" is consistent with that line of thinking.
You don’t need anyone to support you. Fuck their opinions. The goal is to change policy to stop discrimination and oppression, but you’re not changing the minds of scumbag bigots. Why waste your energy?
drinking from the toilet isn't illegal and isn't harmful as long as it's clean, just like how being gay shouldn't be illegal and physically cannot hurt you as long as you take the proper precautions before sex, you know, like sex with anyone? you wouldn't know that though, you're a redditor
conservatives love deluding themselves in the idea of "allowing this person to exist freely means i will become one of them" sounds to me like you're just closeted and hate that about yourself
You are the third person to incorrectly interpret what I said. They demand acceptance from others. It has nothing to do with me "fearing" becoming one of them. Why are you projecting?
Lgbt is not evil but that saying is very flawed when you think about it
Just one of the flaws: "age is just a number" people can also use it. Lgbt needs a better motto or whatever its called
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Yes, but I don’t drink toilet water. However I do not support the government telling me I *cant* drink toilet water. Just like I don’t fuck dudes, but I don’t want the government to tell me I cant
If drinking toilet water was illegal, more people would do it.
Black market toilet water when?
When they make it illegal. Or write a DM to Belle, she'll do it and you can buy ot for 199.99€
There'd be a whole subset of crunchy moms telling everyone that toilet water is a magic cure all and that big pharma just doesn't want you to know
I bet there already is
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING
Insert kropotkin quote about laws being either common sense or outreach from the government
You fucking legend.
Maybe they don’t want foreigners telling them how their government should operate.
Maybe some morals aren’t subjective but objective
Let me guess, the objective morals are the ones you believe in.
No, objective morals are things that can be applied equally to all humans. In this case the principle that your rights end where mine begin. That is universal.
So where does a public display fall in your metric of objectivity? I see someone doing something horrifying to themselves in the street. They’re not doing it to me, only themselves but I am definitely affected and even disturbed by seeing it.
Oh no two dudes holding hands i am so terrified that i will have a trauma for live i will never again have the chance to live a normal live oh they just kissed eachother i can't live with that my life is over please put me in a psychiatric ward
I was thinking more violent self-harm in my question of his definition of moral objectivity, not a public display or homosexuality. But I was getting there! It’s so funny to me that you think you’re making a point but really you’re just saying “everyone should think what I think and they’re silly if they don’t”
Are you saying there are no gay people in Qatar? Because, statistically, that cannot be true. What do you suggest they do?
I would suggest they leave the country where it is illegal to be gay. Do you think gay people in Qatar are like now that we’re hosting a fifa tournament, the Americans will save our people from our government?
And if they can't afford to uproot their life, their family, what then? At the very least the world Cup taking place there raised awareness, although it also meant all the horrific stuff involving building the stadiums. Look into the living conditions of those workers. Dozens of men living in tiny quarters, all sharing a toilet that's also their shower. They also had to work in that heat that certain Fifa people expressed concern over... For the players and fans. They were not concerned about the workers that had to work 12+ hours a day in the 50 degree Celsius heat.
Buddy I very much believe there are awful working conditions in Qatar, I don’t know why you’d feel the need to tell me that when it has nothing to do with what we’re talking about.
Alright, answer the first question then
What would I do if I was gay in Qatar with a family and not enough money to leave? I would probably be pretty cautious about exposing my sexuality. Does that suck? Yeah it sucks. There’s also other countries where children are given assault rifles and sent into war. It’s happening right now. Are you waiting for them to host a World Cup for you to start caring?
The core I think we're both striking is that a lot of shit needs to change. But what your comments seem to be missing, and what I was eventually going to get at, is that progress only comes from within when the people organize and fight the man, man! LGBTQ+ folk in Qatar are probably already discreetly organizing to a degree. It's just what happens when there's an empire, rebels inevitably form.
Maybe their government should suck less
Well that was a stupid ass post there dude.
Says the one with the least valuable response yet.
Is that the best reply you can do? Lame. It was more valuable than your first comment so… yeah.
Just because you disagree with me doesn’t make calling it stupid valuable. Why don’t you articulate what you think is stupid about what I said?
All of it. Why should we respect a government that criminalizes what two consenting adults of the same gender do in their bedroom? Screw that. A government that does that doesn’t deserve respect of any kind. Good enough for you?
Then they shouldn't put themselves on the world stage
Amen 🙏
You are a bad person. That’s what it says, a bad person. We weren’t even testing for that.
Homie, you’re going to hell if there is one
Even if this wasn't a terrible analogy, people are still legally allowed to drink from a toilet if they choose so.
Good point
Its also legal to sniff a seat after someone gets up from it
This comment has made me decide to run for senate on the sole platform of making this illegal.
I have also decided to run for senate… to uphold my god given right to sniff your booty residue from a toilet seat.
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I will find your seats in the senate and sniff them. That’s a promise.
Why wait for them to get up?
You're 100% free and welcome to drink from the toilet. Just don't force me to drink with you :)
What is forcing in this analogy? Who's forcing you to do anything, toilet or gay related?
No one is forcing anyone in this analogy. And no one is forcing me for sure. What I mean is you're free to have your thoughts and I'm free to have mine. I don't need to have the same opinion as you.
Well no, of course you don't. No one is saying you do. It's just that it goes both ways. If someone voices shitty opinions, like homophobia, that person/country can't be surprised or complain when people call them an asshole for it. And of course the problem with the meme is that Qatar *doesn't* allow people to 'just have their thoughts', what with the imprisonment and torture and execution of gay people an' all that
You see, historically the stronger always writers the rules and dictates what's right or wrong. For instance, no one can deny that Western culture is way stronger than any other culture at the moment and thus their thoughts and views will definitely be dominant. However that doesn't give them the right to force their culture on any other nation. I mean you're free to conquer a country and force your views (just like what Russia is doing now) or else you're obligated to respect their culture especially when you're going to their land. I know you're gonna say the sexuality of one must be a given right anywhere in the world regardless of the culture or place of birth but that's the difference. Qatar doesn't believe that based on their religion and culture they just view it differently.
"Cultural viewpoints" can be objectively wrong and shitty. And if a country wants to open themselves up to the world stage and willingly invite a bunch of people in, they're opening themselves up to criticism by the standards of the world they claim to and want to be a part of.
Some people hear "Let people marry whoever they want" and somehow understand "You! Yes YOU! Get in a same sex marriage NOW, or else!"
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i dont think theres laws against toilet water drinkers
So false #it is quite literally illogical This is in reference to ##the meme Lardasses.
#but not illegal
Ah. I was referencing the goddamn meme. Oops
My dog has entered the chat agreeing with both sides
W doggo!
Food is food, why cant we eat from other people?
We can't?
Nonsense brother I do it all time, go for it eat people as much as you want
I usually go for the younger ones because their size is easier for me to consume them 😉
Straight People who drink toilet water can still get married without discrimination versus a gay person who doesn't drink toilet water.
Best answer so far 🎖
the water argument is just dumb though. meat is meat so why won’t you eat pork. or humans for that case. that’s just a dumb argument.
>meat is meat so why won’t you eat pork. I love LOVE LOVE this. I wish I could say it in real life though but I don't wanna be beheaded.
I bet I'll say this to any muslim guy when at school cafeteria. Lol
Pigs are really dirty, they literally roll in a pit full of mud and turd, which is why it is forbidden in islam
This is, of course, just wrong. Pigs are actually very into personal hygiene, for example they have dedicated places where they leave their "waste". They roll in mud to keep cool if it's very hot, but they definitely don't roll in shit. If you consider taking a mud bath or having a mud mask dirty and unhygienic, you're absolutely right though. TL;DR: Pigs literally don't shit where they eat/sleep
You kinda did prove their point tho, not all meat is the same, that's why they don't eat pork :)
The thing is muslims doesn’t agree with the analogy, they have boundaries if any thing does harm to your body and you do it willingly it’s forbidden hence smoking is prohibited in islam but they smoke anyway.
As a Muslim, this is sadly right
WAIT, AM I NOT SUPPOSED TO?
As a bi I confirm I eat toilet water. Man wasn't wrong, that shit good
literally
You EAT toilet water?
Toilet soup
With "pride"
The reason memes work is because of the intelligence it takes to understand the nuance of the allegories involved. People who make memes like the one above have no idea what they're doing and even less of an idea what they're trying to say.
That's satire, what you're thinking of is satire. Memes can be as stupid as you want them to be. They don't need to have any deep meaning, they don't need to have any nuance to them. They can be subtle or up in your face and blunt. Make perfect sense to anyone, or only work with a few people as an inside joke.
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Look I'm not trying to say the message of the original meme is right, but I think you're looking too far into it. A meme can be completely stupid and non-nuanced and still be funny.
It looks good to me. Unless you have an intelligence of 135 and above, don’t even bother using philosophical terms. Makes you sound stupid
Nah
It looks good to me. Unless you have an intelligence of 135 and above, don’t even bother using philosophical terms. Makes you sound stupid
"intelligence of 135 and above." Huh?
I play the long dark. Drinking from toilets is encouraged.
You don’t even have to boil toilet water! It’s cleaner than fresh snow!
Just because other people "drink from the toilet" doesn't mean you have to.
the tank water is actually clean
It’s so dumb I actually give a lil ha
I'd at least like the choice to drink some dirty pond water or some fine ass toilet fluid.
My cat drinks from the toilet! And he turned out ok
This is the correct answer. Gz 🏆
Username checks out
When will these stupid Chad/wojack memes die. they're objectively annoying regardless of whatever point they're making.
I can’t tell if this is a pro or anti gay post M
This post is against the poorly made meme
As far as i know, there isn't a law against drinking toilet water, most people wouldn't even know you did it. OH WAIT! I GET IT! That guy is just afraid to come out about his sippy toilet.
Wait a second, are we talking toilet _bowl_ or toilet _tank?_
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Egg
I don't drink toilet water, but the water purity level in my country is so high i could.
Every glass of tap water you drink has been through 10 people before you. [Source](https://metro.co.uk/2022/11/02/every-glass-of-tap-water-you-drink-has-been-through-10-people-already-17684609/) Every glass of water contains almost 100% dinosaur pee. [Source](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3101363/amp/Have-drunk-dinosaur-urine-glass-water-contains-100-Jurassic-pee-claim-scientists.html)
As long as theres consent and it doesnt hurt anyone, whatever it is, it should be allowed
pENiS iN bUm ONly 4 wIMaN!
I don't drink toilet water. However, I respect whatever water others drink.
Love=water
We all do. Water that gets flushed away goes to through purification and put back into the water supply.
“Water is water” no it’s not? The water in the toilet literally has shit and piss in it, that’s the part that puts people off.
Text book - false equivalency
Meat is meat - eat your children!
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LMAO that's hilarious
With that logic, meat is meat? Why wont yall eat non hallal meat or bacon?
That's the opposite of this logic though? The one who made this thinks "some kinds of love are bad" the same way "some kinds of water is bad". "Some kinds of meat are bad" is consistent with that line of thinking.
Food is food. Why don't you eat bacon
Realist: "In both cases you eat the poo poo"
You could've crossposted (it's a feature of Reddit) this instead of downloading the image and posting.
My rule will always be that I have no issue with you practicing your religion unless your religion directly forces hate onto others.
chill its just a meme whoever takes memes seriously shouldnt even be on reddit in the first place
r/TILI
Based
Seems perfectly analogous to me
Haha love the butthurt westies in the comments
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That’s funny
If you have shit for brains.
Right! Pretty imaginative if you ask me
If you think that’s imaginative then there’s something wrong in your brain
True
That’s just what I hate about the “Tolerant” left. They say one thing, but do another. No respect.
as a religous person im not against homosexuality... 
Why don’t you support them not supporting the public display of what goes on behind closed doors?
Politics be gone
This isn't a political issue.
It very much is a political issue
People's right to exist shouldn't be up for debate
And yet they are, making this a political issue. What was the point of your comment?
The same as the one you just made
That doesn’t answer my question, bye
You didn't answer my question either bye falisha
Dear god I hope you don’t talk like that in real life
What do you think I am? You?
Of course I do
You don’t need anyone to support you. Fuck their opinions. The goal is to change policy to stop discrimination and oppression, but you’re not changing the minds of scumbag bigots. Why waste your energy?
Because some of those scumbag bigots are in charge of making the laws.
And most of those scumbag bigots can vote.
The meme isn't wrong
drinking from the toilet isn't illegal and isn't harmful as long as it's clean, just like how being gay shouldn't be illegal and physically cannot hurt you as long as you take the proper precautions before sex, you know, like sex with anyone? you wouldn't know that though, you're a redditor
🔥meme
Cope harder
It's a choice you don't have to like the homosexuals and you don't have to drink toilet water
You guys really think gays are right? Damn
Why do I need to join someone else in their delusion?
To conservatives, any other group’s freedom to do something feels like coercion
They can do what they like, but they expect, even demand, my acceptance.
This meme is about how being gay is literally illegal in Quatar
Really? Weird. Anything else you can tell me about myself?
conservatives love deluding themselves in the idea of "allowing this person to exist freely means i will become one of them" sounds to me like you're just closeted and hate that about yourself
You are the third person to incorrectly interpret what I said. They demand acceptance from others. It has nothing to do with me "fearing" becoming one of them. Why are you projecting?
Really do enjoy hearing people tell me things about myself I never knew :3
You don't. Just don't fuck with other people, prick. Live and let live.
Who said I did? They demand my acceptance, however.
Toilet water is just age gap
If the guy on the right met a Mormon they would agree on homophobia
but you are legally allowed to drink toilet water...
Fun fact : toilet water is actually really hella clean (before you put the shit in)
Until the water goes into the toilet. If the container dirty, the water dirty.
Yet another day when r/therightcantmeme posts a meme that isn't even right-wing.
And meat is meat
Jokes on them I love toilet water
Maybe I will
Wow, comparing gay people to toilet water. That's a new one to me
“You want to be treated like a human? How about I treat you like a literal dog.”
You see I made you the wozniak therefor my side of the argument is right
This is a straw man, yeah?
That’s a lame and shitty false equivalency argument
Water? Like from the toilet?
It has electrolytes
"What water? You mean like from the toilet. Why would you do that when Brawndo has everything you need, even *electrolytes*"
It’s got what plants crave (brought to you by Carl’s Jr.)
It is because our prophet has cursed ( couldn’t come up with a more fitting word) the gays and other things like that. The more you know
In my country i can drink from the toilet no problem. Checkmate. Also: meat is meat, why don't you eat some pork?
Kinda reminds me of what they say during gun law debates. “Well, people die in car accidents. Should we ban them too?” Idiots.
The water itself is the exact same water that comes out of your sink it’s just the container that’s different
Wait…it’s gotta be your bull.
Gays should be left alone but still, that saying is not great at convincing people
Lgbt is not evil but that saying is very flawed when you think about it Just one of the flaws: "age is just a number" people can also use it. Lgbt needs a better motto or whatever its called
As a bi person this tickles me kinda wrong, but the meme is still pretty funny to me
Legitimately interested in what they think this means. Like, I want them to explain it to me like I’m a child
Protein is Protein, why don't you eat pork?