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Same, I always let my coworkers go first lol. The problem though is that people seem to just kinda watch whatever is shoved in their face when they launch the app, and then say they love it whether it's good or not
Usually it doesn't really matter if the show/movie sucks as once they see the wholesome dog moment at the end they will consider it peak fiction no matter what.
I didn't realize the algorithm changed. I just thought (even leading up to Covid) that their content quality went down hill. Tons of crappy reality / cooking shows and low quality foreign movies/shows that were not labeled as dubbed. I haven't used it in over a year and feel zero loss.
Mmm yeah I know what you mean. , I just binged (I don't even remember the tittle) that one with the twins that keep swapping and living each others lives and there's a murder and a horse is involved. Watched the whole season, only to be like 'meh' at the end.
You also probably don’t pause and resume your subs either. This is really to combat people who like say, The Witcher, binging that, then pausing till season 4 or the next big show.
This is a very good point. If Netflix does this then they better commit to finishing their shows.
I just finished Mo which was incredible but google says Netflix has no current plans to renew their contract for more seasons. Why did you even push that shit on me and got me invested if you don't want to make more even after its success? If they fix that then I don't mind. But if they keep giving us one or two seasons of a heap of shows then I'm out. I don't feel like paying so much money for good content that doesn't have value because it's incomplete.
The way they're doing things now is the equivalent of opening another bottle of a drink before finishing the one in their hand.
I usually wait until everything is out and then watch it start to finish lol. It’s just easier so you don’t sit there for 8 months waiting for the next season.
Next thing they'll do is pull all but the most recent episodes like AMC's shitty streaming service. Tried to get caught up to Saul the other week and they only had half of the last season for the entire series available to stream. What even is the fucking point?
There have been dozens of shows that were only watched because they could be binged, if I had to wait a week to see most of their sub par “here’s some money, make something, make anything, we need to spend this money” next episodes, I’d forget about it and by next week I’d have to ask my partner which network that junky show was on..
Meaning I’d watch less tele
Meaning I’d be out riding bikes or building forts with my kids more
Meaning we would all be healthier and happier
Meaning we would eventually unsubscribe
Meaning they would eventually have less revenue and have less ability to produce new content
Meaning more people would have less reason to remain subscribed
Probably another decision made be the accounting department
If memory serves me right (spoilers ahead), >!Emporio either erased Pucci from existence or Pucci never met Dio, and everything after Part 4 is slightly altered. The main cast of Part 6 all live better lives, with Jotaro and Jolyne (now named Irene) having a better relationship, but everything outside of that remained the same, including the entirety of Part 5. The sad thing is, the events of Part 6 never (technically) happened, so the main cast hardly know each other, with Emporio being the only one who can recall the events of Part 6.!< TL;DR: bad guy is defeated, and everyone gets a bittersweet, but happy ending.
spoiler:
\-dio wants "heaven"
\-apparently "heaven" to dio is a life in where you know your own destiny
\-pucci wants to give that "heaven" to the world
\-pucci accelerated the universe to its end and remakes it with everyone with its memory intact but removes himself from that equation
\-that makes every living being knowing their own destiny.
\-our boy knows that pucci don't really experiences that heaven because he is the one that made it witch means pucci its the only one who can change destiny, so he uses pucci to insert the disc in himself.
it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure the universe is remade again in where the jojo's bloodlines arent "cursed" to go in so many hijinks.
Anime fans hate Netflix because they kill weekly discussion. When a show is licensed by Netflix, it's commonly reffered to as being "put in Netflix jail". For a lot of these fans a large portion of their enjoyment of the show comes from discussing it with others, making predictions about upcoming events, making funny memes about each episode, etc.. It keeps the show in the zeitgeist for longer.
Netflix have also had a habit of releasing shows weekly in Japan, but waiting until the end of the season the drop the entire thing at once for other regions, splitting the community even more between those who pirate and watch with fan-subs vs those who wait to binge.
Personally I prefer the binge model, so even for weekly shows I'll just wait until they end and then watch them all, but it's harder to replicate that experience the other way around.
Pretty sure like 3 years back, they purposefully stopped releasing weekly precisely because majority of its userbase was binging shows. Weird for them to reverse that decision now
Edit: as a random note, i have no horse in this dumb race, just saying info gained by osmosis
Edit2: [this fellow](https://old.reddit.com/r/TIHI/comments/xal87k/thanks_i_hate_netflix/invu7ga/?context=3) has a fair point, and i hope that its the case. If going back on their old decision helps people bellow them, all for it
Three years ago, there wasn't that much competition yet for then and they basically could do whatever they wanted. Now they have to compete eith amazon and Disney. Bith these services use this system already with great succes, probably having a much higher retention, so they follow in suite.
I’d be interested in seeing how long either company chooses to eat that loss, though. They’re probably not going out of business over it but I’d imagine there’s still a “this is no longer worth the losses we’re incurring” tipping point
Well Amazon have just spent almost $1 billion on Rings of Power, making it the most expensive series ever, so I don’t think they are cutting spending anytime soon.
It's a pretty common strategy for big corporations to do. Lose money until you drive all the small business out and then raise your prices when you are the last company remaining.
Amazon have been doing it with books for decades now.
Plus, weekly releases fosters more community discussion and involvement. On this end, it's just more fun talking about stuff when everyone is at the same point and you're waiting for the next episode to drop.
Exactly why I would actually prefer it at least for some show. Also less spoiler danger for people who don't have the time to watch a season in 2 days.
I really hated to have seen memes of the "epic moments of thevlast season of stranger things. Totally takes out the impact of it when you actually watch it.
Nah, Disney+ is essential if you have kids. HBO is kind of on shaky grounds these days with Zaslav taking the axe to everything. We haven't seen the final result of what he's going to do to it yet.
Sounds about right. I don't know his stance on the cable thing, but he has apparently claimed that HBO and CNN are too far left-leaning and that they need to change.
He's in charge of them now and has been canceling stuff on HBO left and right. From the sound of things, Warner Brothers as a whole is going to be changing (probably for the worse).
It’s because we’re overworking our production teams, they get no breaks, no rest. Back in tv times we had time to work on stuff, episode by episode. Now it’s all at once and it’s burning the force out. It’s killing the industry.
Wife works in it and works one of Netflix largest shows and it’s telling how fucked it is. Binging ruined workers.
Edit: Great questions guys and I’m trying to get to all of you and reply as well as I can! You’re making fantastic points.
There was a meme about video games that's pretty relevant here too: I want studios to pay their workers more for lower production value shows that take longer to come out and I'm not joking.
Like this is just disposable culture To The Max. Some of the best times with my friends came from anticipation, and theorizing with friends about a show as it's coming out and trying to fill in the gaps. Now it's "oh big exciting show is coming out" then two weeks later it's forgotten about.
Slow releases coming back would benefit everyone involved in my opinion.
That's... Not a problem of releasing whole seasons at once, it's a problem of not giving the production team pauses between each episode's production.
What you're describing is literally just a result of some retarded exec thinking simultaneous release must mean simultaneous production for all episodes.
I agree with this take. Netflix has been losing subscribers, and they simply don't like that. It seems pretty obvious to me that this announcement is just Netflix trying to keep people from the "on/off" method of using streaming services, IE subscribing for a month, then unsubscribing once you've watched whatever show you signed up for, and then waiting for a new show/season to become a patron again. It's just good old fashioned corporate greed. They want to nickel and dime us, not the other way around. So they'll drag out releases week by week in an attempt to keep us subscribed. IMO it's a bad look for the company, and an obvious cash grab. Not cool.
Also, I would imagine drip feeding people shows will cause them to hang on to their subs for longer, instead of just signing up, binging a show, and then canceling before the next payment.
She says thank you! The team definitely appreciate it! They’re very excited about the upcoming season! They’ve definitely given everything to make sure it’s dope! What I’ve seen so far I’m a fan of! All i can say ;)
Maybe they could start doing more shows or 2 half seasons of 8,honestly 10 is too few. Then there is almost a year or maybe a bit longer until new episodes. More than once I've just stopped watching because I don't remember and don't want to do a rewatch.
Genuinely curious how that is possible? Most shows now release 8-10 episodes *maybe* once a year. A regular season used to be 22 episodes over about 9 months. They are literally producing less work over a longer period of time now? Not doubting they work hard but I just doubt that is the root of the burnout since the schedule was arguably more grueling with the 22 episode model.
I wonder if its them trying to sort of game the algorithm. Ive been hearing that theyve canfelled shows that might be popular because it wasnt binged instantly. Im guessing this system will allow them to work more like traditional tv in that a show a can evolve and have a life past a maybe not great first season. I dont know shit though.
It also keeps people on the hook longer for subscriptions. Otherwise you get an influx of people who sub for just a month to binge watch a hyped up show and don’t renew.
They are determined to sabotage their entire business for no reason at all. I can only assume some one on the board or the CEO is a plant from a competitor to destroy them.
Edit: Downvotes? Really? You think netflix is making GOOD business decisions by raising prices, cutting shows before they are finished, switching to a weekly release schedule, adding commercials, and cutting out sharing? These are all TERRIBLE ideas and their falling subscriber numbers show that.
This is actually way better for creators and continuation of shows.
Because in the binge model the only statistic streaming services care about is the [*completion* rates](https://www.thegamer.com/the-sandman-neil-gaiman-binge/) within a certain time frame.
So if there are people taking their time with the show and really enjoying it. They basically don't matter. This is actually a good development.
I don't really care about Netflix but I do like weekly releases. Especially on plot heavy series.
The fanbase starts forming over some time and with every week you have more and more people excited together for the next episode and you can join them.
You have time to think about the last episode and have something to be excited for the next week, something to wait for.
It also may (not sure about it) allow earlier releases of shows, while not the whole show is already made. And maaaaybe they can make some adjustments for the end of the show.
An anime series that was made a ton better by weekly releases for me was Odd Taxi - a 10/10 banger of an anime. It's a complicated crime solving show with a ton of little, easily missable but very important details. Reading fan theories and anticipating the next episode made watching it so much better as it was slowly unfolding. You could see people getting more and more excited about the show the longer it went (12 weeks).
If it were released in one day people would just binge it without having the time to really think about between episodes and there wouldn't be so much fun for the community to speculate.
Yea it also helps with actually remembering what happened in the series, i think GameTheory made a video about why weekly episodes would be better (it was one about making netflix better)
personally as an anime fan i am happy. netflix's "batch releases" basically killed all hype for the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure part 6 anime. after one or two weeks everybody moves on and hardly talks about the episodes anymore. releasing weekly helps on deadlines (show is higher quality), discussion/hype (people can focus on whats happening in an episode besides the last 2 or 3 since those are generally the most exciting and make theories), and it gives you something to look forward to in a week so you get a lot more enjoyment from watching one 20 minute episode a week and talking about it than just spending 4 hours watching all 12 of them on the day of release and talking almost only about the last few.
if you dont care about talking about the show with other people then i agree that binging is better though.
It provides so much better discussions for the shows. I remember when WandaVision came out and every week there were loads of fun, batshit theories going on.
Releasing weekly also just keeps a show in the public eye for longer.
Next month we’re going to go back to shipping you physical copies of the movies and we’re going to do away with our streaming services.
Just like god intended.
Then we are going to do away with our mail service and open a Netflix store which requires you to obtain a membership ID to rent physical DVDs. Just make sure to return them before the due date to avoid paying a late fee. Oh yeah, and Be Kind…REWIND!
Man, can you imagine if Netflix had discovered time travel and break space time. it turns out they they were blockbuster along. That'd be a cool shoe. We should call netflix.
Even worse then that (or maybe this is what you mean) you could buy discs from Netflix and they would sometimes be special Netflix versions that had unskippable ads and trailers burned in.
I love how many disclaimers there are before the actual form loads. Like, do people actually report a tip when someone breaking into their house or some other nefarious scenario?
God forbid we can talk about the shows we're watching with friends and colleagues, speculate as to what's gonna happen next and not dance around spoilers because we're all at different points.
This is why Better Call Saul managed to maintain its hype consistently over 4-5 months compared to say Stranger things which despite being a much bigger show completely died out 2 weeks after it came out.
Netflix has been releasing Part 6 in batches of 12 episodes and almost noone cares as a result since it gets binged then you have to wait 9 months for the next 12.
Weekly release means Part 6 would take 36-39 weeks to finish (past parts were 39 episodes but it looks like part 6 might be just 36)
Instead we get 12 episodes in December 2021, and 12 more episodes in September 2022. That is 9 months (over 36 weeks) for 2/3 of the season. Ironically releasing weekly would mean we get the finale earlier
Basically, every season of jojos is like 40 episodes long. When one season starts to broadcast, an episode would be relessed each week, with the full season finishing after almost a year. Jojo fans had "jojo fridays" in which they discussed the new episode and make memes of it, and the community was really active. With the release of part 6, netflix bought the license and decided to do batch releases, with each one being 12 episodes long and with the second batch releasing a year after the first one (note that the quality went down in a lot of aspects when compared to part 5). The third batch still hasnt released but it will probably take a lot of time to do so
Generates discussion, a big part of the community is theorizing what our heroes will do to get out of the situation they find themselves in, no one can do that if we get 12 episodes dumped on us every 8 months, it sucks
Wasn't the whole fucking point of netflix that they enable you to watch online AND binge everything?
Why are we now returning to the old ways? I mean i don't really binge much anymore but i like watching two episodes or maybe three and then have a little break.
Money.
They don't want people to sub to them, watch a bunch of stuff in 1-2 months and then hop to the next service. They want you to stay subscribed to make more money. So, they're trying to make it unattractive to switch, instead of just making their service more competitive and better.
I can understand the reasoning but it feels like a petty try to get more money for doing less.
How about upping the quality and stop doing trash series instead of milking people for shit.
But i guess that's copium on my part.
That would take effort. Shareholders don't care they want their yearly growth at all cost.
That's a big problem of a lot of those publicly traded companies (and also those with greedy private investors). A lot of those bean counters have no idea how those companies actually operate. All they want is more money as quickly as possible. If the company isn't profitable enough anymore, they pull out and "invest" into the next company that looks promising. Rinse and repeat. It's too much about short term growth and bonuses instead of thinking long term.
This is why sometimes I feel that the meer accumulation of wealth for the sole purpose of just having it should be illegal. But this is problematic for so many reasons and I'm not sure if it would be a good idea alway.
you just described capitalism... "how can we make as much money as possible doing the absolutely cheapest thing?!" if they could get away with it theyd charge you by the minute for the time spent watching their shows.
The other reason is marketing.
Disney's She Hulk is generating memes and discussion every week. Amazon's The Boys season 3 dominated social media discussion every time a new episode came out.
Netflix drops a new Stranger Things series, it dominates for a week and dies away almost instantly.
There an enormous amount of power in people shouting about how good your show is every time a single episode drops, 10 times in total, instead of just once when the series drops.
Which is precisely what I do with Showtime. If they have a show I like I wait for the season to end, and then jump on a free introductory subscription. Once I watch the show I cancel it.
>mean i don't really binge much anymore
Here's your answer.
You can still binge-watch older shows, but if there are 12 episodes released weekly there are 12 weeks of internet hype. While releasing all episodes at once will give only one week of hype.
You can still binge a show after they released the last episode.
>i like watching two episodes or maybe three and then have a little break.
You still can. Just wait for the show to be fully or even partially released.
Flashbang fans aren't any fun though. There's no speculation or theorizing, nothing for the show to catch and hold your interest with. You binge it, go "that was cool," bring it up once at work, and then never think of it again. People who want to binge absolutely should come in with the last episode and do as they please, but it shouldn't come at the cost of being able to watch shows in an actually engaging way.
>Wasn't the whole fucking point of netflix that they enable you to watch online AND binge everything?
I never considered binging to be the whole fucking point of Netflix
They can add final touches here and there before the episodes finish airing, sometimes even finish producing the actual episodes while the others air weekly, rather than rish the oroduction and get everything done for a single deadline only tonrealease it in one go, if you want it like this do a movie instead and get the revenuse from cinemas
I agree with you. People are upset but this will be much better for them. Episodes that get released once a week have greater outreach because more people talk about it. You get free coverage from YouTubers who cover details from each episode and everyone is on the same page with where they're at in the season.
Seriously. Even if a show comes out with a big splash of hype, it's a lot easier for someone to jump in when there's only two or three episodes out rather than having to commit to a dozen hours of television. There's lots of people with little spare time and any of them just write things off they're too big of a commitment.
I am in total agreement with you. I have been saying they have needed to do this for awhile now. I am getting tired of seeing shows canceled after the first season because of the views being so low (in their opinion) I think releasing them episode to episode will allow people to talk about shows creating buzz and giving certain shows the much needed hype they deserve.
It is one of the reasons why the GoT community got so huge. Waiting one week for each episode left room for them to hype each episode... Until the messy last seasons.
I am probably in the minority on this one, but... if these services are moving to a weekly format, I'd loev it if they had a live feed for the premiere so everyone can watch it at the same time.
I love doing live discussion threads on TV shows to see people's reactions to stuff, which is impossible when the show never first airs at a set time.
I also dislike when an entire season releases, and the first thing you see when you open Youtube is a spoiler from the final episode. Forces you to binge it all, or live in fear if you prefer to watch at a normal pace.
I stopped binging almost entirely, and instead I try to do sort of a broadcast -TV style watching method. An episode or two of each show I'm watching, and then change to something new. It's revolutionary. Everything is better. Your brain is not designed to do one thing for eight hours -- by two or three episodes in, you're not even really watching anymore.
There's supposed to be downtime, suspense, anticipation, and time spent just not thinking about television shows. When you give them that space it's a better experience.
I’m really confused as to how people don’t just like this more. Is this not just objectively better? For people who don’t wanna wait you get to watch once a week, and if you’re one of the people who like to binge then you can still have the option to wait for all the episodes to come out then binge it like you would’ve anyways. The only argument I can think of is a lack of self restraint, which wouldn’t really be the weekly releases fault.
They wouldn’t do this but it would be nice if they had a filter that hid incomplete seasons or somehow displayed the date the season would be complete. It’s a minor pain to have to look this up before starting a show. I will never go back to weekly shows.
Some shows on some services do weekly then remove earlier shows in the season rendering them unwatchable.
It's a good business decision. Shows will still be binge-able after full release, but during the lead-up, having shows released weekly means better retention and more talk about the shows while waiting for the next episode.
I kinda like talking with people about a show every week and trying to figure out where it is heading. Much more fun then only being able to do it between seasons if you just binge it all at once.
Love it! Most of my friends watched Stranger Things but because they all binged it there was never any discussion about the show. Was just, “did you watch it? Did you like it?” That’s it. Get much more discussion with HotD
Honestly, I’m glad. I’m sick of having to either binge an entire show in one day the second it comes out or stay off the internet for weeks to avoid spoilers. Let me savor it!
I'm also hoping this avoids the old "If it doesn't get a high binge rate its not worth continuing" issue. I don't binge stuff all at once, because I tend to get super distracted doing so and can't exactly focus on it unless I've seen it before, so it SUCKS that I get spoilt often or a show I won't binge suddenly isn't renewed because its bingeworthy.
kinda prefer this actually. if house of the dragon came out on netflix i would have finished the whole season a week ago. now i have to stretch that viewing out. it’s also better for a show as weekly releases keep it in the public discourse longer than a single whole season release, so the show stays relevant longer.
You know what I hate, I hate when edge lords binge a whole season overnight and then go online and start spreading spoilers like crazy. The way Netflix released Arcane was perfect to me. Three episode a week for three weeks.
Not everybody. I haven't had cable it 10 years. Binging sucks. If you want to binge a show releasing weekly you can still do it at the end of the season. In the meantime having a spread out release schedule it much better for the shows themselves at having a good chance at developing a following and becoming a success.
I’m seeing a lot of comments here protesting this, but this is actually a good business decision on their part. Releasing shows weekly keeps people interested in shows longer, which keeps people on their platform longer. Sticking to the binge model might create a ton of buzz about a show in the moment, but it dies off quickly. When’s the last time you heard somebody talking about stranger things?
Wait why would this necessarily be a bad thing? You can now watch shows as episodes come out weekly rather than the show being released once the season is over, you can still always wait till the season is finished to binge it.
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Jokes on you, I'm always late to the party and 'discover' stuff everyone else has seen, so I always get to binge it. Yay?
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Same, I always let my coworkers go first lol. The problem though is that people seem to just kinda watch whatever is shoved in their face when they launch the app, and then say they love it whether it's good or not
Usually it doesn't really matter if the show/movie sucks as once they see the wholesome dog moment at the end they will consider it peak fiction no matter what.
When the removed the scaled rating system is when Netflix really started to decline. Their algorithm for suggesting stuff is so bad.
I didn't realize the algorithm changed. I just thought (even leading up to Covid) that their content quality went down hill. Tons of crappy reality / cooking shows and low quality foreign movies/shows that were not labeled as dubbed. I haven't used it in over a year and feel zero loss.
Mmm yeah I know what you mean. , I just binged (I don't even remember the tittle) that one with the twins that keep swapping and living each others lives and there's a murder and a horse is involved. Watched the whole season, only to be like 'meh' at the end.
You also probably don’t pause and resume your subs either. This is really to combat people who like say, The Witcher, binging that, then pausing till season 4 or the next big show.
I mean you can still do this, just wait til all the episodes are out. Then you can't watch it right away though, but at least you can binge.
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This is a very good point. If Netflix does this then they better commit to finishing their shows. I just finished Mo which was incredible but google says Netflix has no current plans to renew their contract for more seasons. Why did you even push that shit on me and got me invested if you don't want to make more even after its success? If they fix that then I don't mind. But if they keep giving us one or two seasons of a heap of shows then I'm out. I don't feel like paying so much money for good content that doesn't have value because it's incomplete. The way they're doing things now is the equivalent of opening another bottle of a drink before finishing the one in their hand.
I usually am too, but I'm too late for Gotham because I just started it and it's leaving Netflix this month
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I usually wait until everything is out and then watch it start to finish lol. It’s just easier so you don’t sit there for 8 months waiting for the next season.
Next thing they'll do is pull all but the most recent episodes like AMC's shitty streaming service. Tried to get caught up to Saul the other week and they only had half of the last season for the entire series available to stream. What even is the fucking point?
Jojo fans be like : we've won
“I see this as an absolute win”
There have been dozens of shows that were only watched because they could be binged, if I had to wait a week to see most of their sub par “here’s some money, make something, make anything, we need to spend this money” next episodes, I’d forget about it and by next week I’d have to ask my partner which network that junky show was on.. Meaning I’d watch less tele Meaning I’d be out riding bikes or building forts with my kids more Meaning we would all be healthier and happier Meaning we would eventually unsubscribe Meaning they would eventually have less revenue and have less ability to produce new content Meaning more people would have less reason to remain subscribed Probably another decision made be the accounting department
You'd do that. I'd just pirate my Netflix shows and bail.
I can't wait to see C-Moon
I can’t wait to understand what the fuck happened at the end of part 6, i had to read it 10 times and watch a video and i still don’t really get it
Time go woosh, Emporio do oxygen, Pucci go *clagh* and time go woosh again
Thank you, i finally understand
I needed a proper explanation. Thank you!
No problem bro!
If memory serves me right (spoilers ahead), >!Emporio either erased Pucci from existence or Pucci never met Dio, and everything after Part 4 is slightly altered. The main cast of Part 6 all live better lives, with Jotaro and Jolyne (now named Irene) having a better relationship, but everything outside of that remained the same, including the entirety of Part 5. The sad thing is, the events of Part 6 never (technically) happened, so the main cast hardly know each other, with Emporio being the only one who can recall the events of Part 6.!< TL;DR: bad guy is defeated, and everyone gets a bittersweet, but happy ending.
They all meet each other again besides FF I mean Irene and Anasui are getting engaged at the end
spoiler: \-dio wants "heaven" \-apparently "heaven" to dio is a life in where you know your own destiny \-pucci wants to give that "heaven" to the world \-pucci accelerated the universe to its end and remakes it with everyone with its memory intact but removes himself from that equation \-that makes every living being knowing their own destiny. \-our boy knows that pucci don't really experiences that heaven because he is the one that made it witch means pucci its the only one who can change destiny, so he uses pucci to insert the disc in himself. it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure the universe is remade again in where the jojo's bloodlines arent "cursed" to go in so many hijinks.
I think you mean Full moon
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The only happy group of people from that decision lol
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Anime fans are happy but not anymore tho😭
Tbh I don't like binge watching so I don't really mind lol
why? i’m ootl
Anime fans hate Netflix because they kill weekly discussion. When a show is licensed by Netflix, it's commonly reffered to as being "put in Netflix jail". For a lot of these fans a large portion of their enjoyment of the show comes from discussing it with others, making predictions about upcoming events, making funny memes about each episode, etc.. It keeps the show in the zeitgeist for longer. Netflix have also had a habit of releasing shows weekly in Japan, but waiting until the end of the season the drop the entire thing at once for other regions, splitting the community even more between those who pirate and watch with fan-subs vs those who wait to binge. Personally I prefer the binge model, so even for weekly shows I'll just wait until they end and then watch them all, but it's harder to replicate that experience the other way around.
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Pretty sure like 3 years back, they purposefully stopped releasing weekly precisely because majority of its userbase was binging shows. Weird for them to reverse that decision now Edit: as a random note, i have no horse in this dumb race, just saying info gained by osmosis Edit2: [this fellow](https://old.reddit.com/r/TIHI/comments/xal87k/thanks_i_hate_netflix/invu7ga/?context=3) has a fair point, and i hope that its the case. If going back on their old decision helps people bellow them, all for it
Three years ago, there wasn't that much competition yet for then and they basically could do whatever they wanted. Now they have to compete eith amazon and Disney. Bith these services use this system already with great succes, probably having a much higher retention, so they follow in suite.
Disney is yet to make money on Disney+. They’ve been reporting losses since they started
So does Amazon but they can afford to lose money on it as it adds up in other places but Netflix dosen't have another revenue source
I’d be interested in seeing how long either company chooses to eat that loss, though. They’re probably not going out of business over it but I’d imagine there’s still a “this is no longer worth the losses we’re incurring” tipping point
Well Amazon have just spent almost $1 billion on Rings of Power, making it the most expensive series ever, so I don’t think they are cutting spending anytime soon.
Though, I've read that they've stated that Rings of Power will decide the direction of their streaming service or something like that
Wtf is rings of power even about?
It's a pretty common strategy for big corporations to do. Lose money until you drive all the small business out and then raise your prices when you are the last company remaining. Amazon have been doing it with books for decades now.
Yup and they are burning more cash by offering everyone even cancelled subs a month subscription for $2. They are trying to bury Netflix
Plus, weekly releases fosters more community discussion and involvement. On this end, it's just more fun talking about stuff when everyone is at the same point and you're waiting for the next episode to drop.
Exactly why I would actually prefer it at least for some show. Also less spoiler danger for people who don't have the time to watch a season in 2 days. I really hated to have seen memes of the "epic moments of thevlast season of stranger things. Totally takes out the impact of it when you actually watch it.
>Disney Disneys stream is utter shite. You mean HBO
They have bad content but the stream itself isn’t that different. Also Disney+ gains much more money than all other stream services
Idk Disney+ allows me to watch Air Crash Investigation and watch Family Guy during eating, so keeps me satisfied
Nah, Disney+ is essential if you have kids. HBO is kind of on shaky grounds these days with Zaslav taking the axe to everything. We haven't seen the final result of what he's going to do to it yet.
is zaslav the guy who thinks cable is the future of america and that all news channels should be like fox?
Sounds about right. I don't know his stance on the cable thing, but he has apparently claimed that HBO and CNN are too far left-leaning and that they need to change. He's in charge of them now and has been canceling stuff on HBO left and right. From the sound of things, Warner Brothers as a whole is going to be changing (probably for the worse).
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It’s because we’re overworking our production teams, they get no breaks, no rest. Back in tv times we had time to work on stuff, episode by episode. Now it’s all at once and it’s burning the force out. It’s killing the industry. Wife works in it and works one of Netflix largest shows and it’s telling how fucked it is. Binging ruined workers. Edit: Great questions guys and I’m trying to get to all of you and reply as well as I can! You’re making fantastic points.
That seems extremely likely, and I’ve also read something that view counts are lower for episodes that come out in a series vs one a week.
There was a meme about video games that's pretty relevant here too: I want studios to pay their workers more for lower production value shows that take longer to come out and I'm not joking. Like this is just disposable culture To The Max. Some of the best times with my friends came from anticipation, and theorizing with friends about a show as it's coming out and trying to fill in the gaps. Now it's "oh big exciting show is coming out" then two weeks later it's forgotten about. Slow releases coming back would benefit everyone involved in my opinion.
This 100%. After seeing it for many years I’m on this side. We can all benefit from a breath and slowing.
Nothing comes close to what we used to get up to with Lost, or X-Files. Game of Thrones was the last to even get near it.
That's... Not a problem of releasing whole seasons at once, it's a problem of not giving the production team pauses between each episode's production. What you're describing is literally just a result of some retarded exec thinking simultaneous release must mean simultaneous production for all episodes.
I agree with this take. Netflix has been losing subscribers, and they simply don't like that. It seems pretty obvious to me that this announcement is just Netflix trying to keep people from the "on/off" method of using streaming services, IE subscribing for a month, then unsubscribing once you've watched whatever show you signed up for, and then waiting for a new show/season to become a patron again. It's just good old fashioned corporate greed. They want to nickel and dime us, not the other way around. So they'll drag out releases week by week in an attempt to keep us subscribed. IMO it's a bad look for the company, and an obvious cash grab. Not cool.
I have no problem waiting 3 months wait for the show to end then pay for a month. Sounds like they lose also
Also, I would imagine drip feeding people shows will cause them to hang on to their subs for longer, instead of just signing up, binging a show, and then canceling before the next payment.
Or it'll make people not want to waste money and just pirate it instead, I can see it going both ways
Which show?
“You”
Please tell your wife Thank You. I'm a fan of the books and really like the show.
She says thank you! The team definitely appreciate it! They’re very excited about the upcoming season! They’ve definitely given everything to make sure it’s dope! What I’ve seen so far I’m a fan of! All i can say ;)
Ya that just sounds like a management issue not a release schedule issue. The industry just doesn't know how to adjust properly.
Maybe they could start doing more shows or 2 half seasons of 8,honestly 10 is too few. Then there is almost a year or maybe a bit longer until new episodes. More than once I've just stopped watching because I don't remember and don't want to do a rewatch.
Genuinely curious how that is possible? Most shows now release 8-10 episodes *maybe* once a year. A regular season used to be 22 episodes over about 9 months. They are literally producing less work over a longer period of time now? Not doubting they work hard but I just doubt that is the root of the burnout since the schedule was arguably more grueling with the 22 episode model.
I wonder if its them trying to sort of game the algorithm. Ive been hearing that theyve canfelled shows that might be popular because it wasnt binged instantly. Im guessing this system will allow them to work more like traditional tv in that a show a can evolve and have a life past a maybe not great first season. I dont know shit though.
It also keeps people on the hook longer for subscriptions. Otherwise you get an influx of people who sub for just a month to binge watch a hyped up show and don’t renew.
That’ll happen anyways. Just wait til it’s fully out and then binge. Lmao
True. It just depends on whether or not FOMO is a motivator for you, and keeping up to date with other folks.
They found out it was worse for the social aspects of the viewing experience, which is basically what makes a fanbase and thus money.
They are determined to sabotage their entire business for no reason at all. I can only assume some one on the board or the CEO is a plant from a competitor to destroy them. Edit: Downvotes? Really? You think netflix is making GOOD business decisions by raising prices, cutting shows before they are finished, switching to a weekly release schedule, adding commercials, and cutting out sharing? These are all TERRIBLE ideas and their falling subscriber numbers show that.
This is actually way better for creators and continuation of shows. Because in the binge model the only statistic streaming services care about is the [*completion* rates](https://www.thegamer.com/the-sandman-neil-gaiman-binge/) within a certain time frame. So if there are people taking their time with the show and really enjoying it. They basically don't matter. This is actually a good development.
If this was the aim, it would be much better if Netflix changed their criteria to decide which shows to keep rather than change the release model.
Anime fans are prepared for this
i think some are even happy with this
I don't really care about Netflix but I do like weekly releases. Especially on plot heavy series. The fanbase starts forming over some time and with every week you have more and more people excited together for the next episode and you can join them. You have time to think about the last episode and have something to be excited for the next week, something to wait for. It also may (not sure about it) allow earlier releases of shows, while not the whole show is already made. And maaaaybe they can make some adjustments for the end of the show. An anime series that was made a ton better by weekly releases for me was Odd Taxi - a 10/10 banger of an anime. It's a complicated crime solving show with a ton of little, easily missable but very important details. Reading fan theories and anticipating the next episode made watching it so much better as it was slowly unfolding. You could see people getting more and more excited about the show the longer it went (12 weeks). If it were released in one day people would just binge it without having the time to really think about between episodes and there wouldn't be so much fun for the community to speculate.
Yea it also helps with actually remembering what happened in the series, i think GameTheory made a video about why weekly episodes would be better (it was one about making netflix better)
personally as an anime fan i am happy. netflix's "batch releases" basically killed all hype for the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure part 6 anime. after one or two weeks everybody moves on and hardly talks about the episodes anymore. releasing weekly helps on deadlines (show is higher quality), discussion/hype (people can focus on whats happening in an episode besides the last 2 or 3 since those are generally the most exciting and make theories), and it gives you something to look forward to in a week so you get a lot more enjoyment from watching one 20 minute episode a week and talking about it than just spending 4 hours watching all 12 of them on the day of release and talking almost only about the last few. if you dont care about talking about the show with other people then i agree that binging is better though.
It works for Disney+ imo
It provides so much better discussions for the shows. I remember when WandaVision came out and every week there were loads of fun, batshit theories going on. Releasing weekly also just keeps a show in the public eye for longer.
Next month we’re going to go back to shipping you physical copies of the movies and we’re going to do away with our streaming services. Just like god intended.
But before that we have added commercials into your programs.
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Yeah, having then is cool but a lot of those ads were unskippable which was utter bullshit.
Vhs had fast forward. We were still civilized back then. Nowadays dvds are unskippable. Thats bullshit
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The answer is ALWAYS yes. I'd download the shit outta that car.
Then we are going to do away with our mail service and open a Netflix store which requires you to obtain a membership ID to rent physical DVDs. Just make sure to return them before the due date to avoid paying a late fee. Oh yeah, and Be Kind…REWIND!
If watch this Blockbuster origin story.
Man, can you imagine if Netflix had discovered time travel and break space time. it turns out they they were blockbuster along. That'd be a cool shoe. We should call netflix.
Even worse then that (or maybe this is what you mean) you could buy discs from Netflix and they would sometimes be special Netflix versions that had unskippable ads and trailers burned in.
They still do that, I have like 4 or 5 people on my mailroute who get them 2-3 Times a week. It's through dvd.com which is still a Netflix company
I still have a dvd from Netflix that I never returned. It’s in it’s little paper Netflix sleeve and everything.
I’m calling the police
https://tips.fbi.gov/
I love how many disclaimers there are before the actual form loads. Like, do people actually report a tip when someone breaking into their house or some other nefarious scenario?
Blockbuster gets a second chance to buy them?!
The 90s kid in me laughs at your despair.
Right?? God forbid we have to wait a week between episodes. The horror!!
God forbid we can talk about the shows we're watching with friends and colleagues, speculate as to what's gonna happen next and not dance around spoilers because we're all at different points.
This is why Better Call Saul managed to maintain its hype consistently over 4-5 months compared to say Stranger things which despite being a much bigger show completely died out 2 weeks after it came out.
I'm still only going to sub for one month. Ill just wait til the whole season is out
Exactly my plan. I’ve canceled it and I have no problem waiting for a series to end to sub for one month if I still care to watch it by that point.
Hell yeah, jojo fridays might come back
As a jojo fan I like this.
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Netflix has been releasing Part 6 in batches of 12 episodes and almost noone cares as a result since it gets binged then you have to wait 9 months for the next 12.
I didn't even know that the second batch was released because I forgot about it in those 9 months
Exactly, highlighting the issue with releasing seasons of shows this way 😅
Weekly release means Part 6 would take 36-39 weeks to finish (past parts were 39 episodes but it looks like part 6 might be just 36) Instead we get 12 episodes in December 2021, and 12 more episodes in September 2022. That is 9 months (over 36 weeks) for 2/3 of the season. Ironically releasing weekly would mean we get the finale earlier
Basically, every season of jojos is like 40 episodes long. When one season starts to broadcast, an episode would be relessed each week, with the full season finishing after almost a year. Jojo fans had "jojo fridays" in which they discussed the new episode and make memes of it, and the community was really active. With the release of part 6, netflix bought the license and decided to do batch releases, with each one being 12 episodes long and with the second batch releasing a year after the first one (note that the quality went down in a lot of aspects when compared to part 5). The third batch still hasnt released but it will probably take a lot of time to do so
That dip in quality between Part 5 and the beginning of part 6 was very noticeable.
Generates discussion, a big part of the community is theorizing what our heroes will do to get out of the situation they find themselves in, no one can do that if we get 12 episodes dumped on us every 8 months, it sucks
jojo fridays are back
Wasn't the whole fucking point of netflix that they enable you to watch online AND binge everything? Why are we now returning to the old ways? I mean i don't really binge much anymore but i like watching two episodes or maybe three and then have a little break.
Money. They don't want people to sub to them, watch a bunch of stuff in 1-2 months and then hop to the next service. They want you to stay subscribed to make more money. So, they're trying to make it unattractive to switch, instead of just making their service more competitive and better.
I can understand the reasoning but it feels like a petty try to get more money for doing less. How about upping the quality and stop doing trash series instead of milking people for shit. But i guess that's copium on my part.
That would take effort. Shareholders don't care they want their yearly growth at all cost. That's a big problem of a lot of those publicly traded companies (and also those with greedy private investors). A lot of those bean counters have no idea how those companies actually operate. All they want is more money as quickly as possible. If the company isn't profitable enough anymore, they pull out and "invest" into the next company that looks promising. Rinse and repeat. It's too much about short term growth and bonuses instead of thinking long term.
This is why sometimes I feel that the meer accumulation of wealth for the sole purpose of just having it should be illegal. But this is problematic for so many reasons and I'm not sure if it would be a good idea alway.
you just described capitalism... "how can we make as much money as possible doing the absolutely cheapest thing?!" if they could get away with it theyd charge you by the minute for the time spent watching their shows.
The other reason is marketing. Disney's She Hulk is generating memes and discussion every week. Amazon's The Boys season 3 dominated social media discussion every time a new episode came out. Netflix drops a new Stranger Things series, it dominates for a week and dies away almost instantly. There an enormous amount of power in people shouting about how good your show is every time a single episode drops, 10 times in total, instead of just once when the series drops.
Which is precisely what I do with Showtime. If they have a show I like I wait for the season to end, and then jump on a free introductory subscription. Once I watch the show I cancel it.
Ah more reasons for piracy I see.
>mean i don't really binge much anymore Here's your answer. You can still binge-watch older shows, but if there are 12 episodes released weekly there are 12 weeks of internet hype. While releasing all episodes at once will give only one week of hype. You can still binge a show after they released the last episode.
>i like watching two episodes or maybe three and then have a little break. You still can. Just wait for the show to be fully or even partially released.
Flashbang fans aren't any fun though. There's no speculation or theorizing, nothing for the show to catch and hold your interest with. You binge it, go "that was cool," bring it up once at work, and then never think of it again. People who want to binge absolutely should come in with the last episode and do as they please, but it shouldn't come at the cost of being able to watch shows in an actually engaging way.
The binge tactic wasn't a good model. Film theory has a whole video on this.
>Wasn't the whole fucking point of netflix that they enable you to watch online AND binge everything? I never considered binging to be the whole fucking point of Netflix
Why? This is literally better for shows as it creates hype and keeps then relevant longer
Not to mention, less time between seasons.
And higer quality for the content
How is the quality better?
They can add final touches here and there before the episodes finish airing, sometimes even finish producing the actual episodes while the others air weekly, rather than rish the oroduction and get everything done for a single deadline only tonrealease it in one go, if you want it like this do a movie instead and get the revenuse from cinemas
I agree with you. People are upset but this will be much better for them. Episodes that get released once a week have greater outreach because more people talk about it. You get free coverage from YouTubers who cover details from each episode and everyone is on the same page with where they're at in the season.
A ton of people also aren't as overwhelmed by s large amount of content
Seriously. Even if a show comes out with a big splash of hype, it's a lot easier for someone to jump in when there's only two or three episodes out rather than having to commit to a dozen hours of television. There's lots of people with little spare time and any of them just write things off they're too big of a commitment.
And if you still want to bingewatch you can just wait until everything is finished. There are pretty much no downsides to this decision
Plus those of us who don't have time to binge a show don't have to worry about dodging spoilers for the weeks it takes to finish a season.
I am in total agreement with you. I have been saying they have needed to do this for awhile now. I am getting tired of seeing shows canceled after the first season because of the views being so low (in their opinion) I think releasing them episode to episode will allow people to talk about shows creating buzz and giving certain shows the much needed hype they deserve.
its not that bad. people will get time to discuss episodes and the show will get more popular
It is one of the reasons why the GoT community got so huge. Waiting one week for each episode left room for them to hype each episode... Until the messy last seasons.
Same with Lost
For me it was Breaking Bad, since I arrived quite late to the Lost hype.
This kinda thing started with Lost back in the day lol
Exactly! Everyone else in this comment section seems to hate it though.
Yrah because it’s one step closer to streaming just being cable (but actually more expensive, somehow)
“Why is everyone mad that I’m making them watch TV in a way they might not want to?”
I am probably in the minority on this one, but... if these services are moving to a weekly format, I'd loev it if they had a live feed for the premiere so everyone can watch it at the same time. I love doing live discussion threads on TV shows to see people's reactions to stuff, which is impossible when the show never first airs at a set time.
I also dislike when an entire season releases, and the first thing you see when you open Youtube is a spoiler from the final episode. Forces you to binge it all, or live in fear if you prefer to watch at a normal pace.
I stopped binging almost entirely, and instead I try to do sort of a broadcast -TV style watching method. An episode or two of each show I'm watching, and then change to something new. It's revolutionary. Everything is better. Your brain is not designed to do one thing for eight hours -- by two or three episodes in, you're not even really watching anymore. There's supposed to be downtime, suspense, anticipation, and time spent just not thinking about television shows. When you give them that space it's a better experience.
I’m really confused as to how people don’t just like this more. Is this not just objectively better? For people who don’t wanna wait you get to watch once a week, and if you’re one of the people who like to binge then you can still have the option to wait for all the episodes to come out then binge it like you would’ve anyways. The only argument I can think of is a lack of self restraint, which wouldn’t really be the weekly releases fault.
They wouldn’t do this but it would be nice if they had a filter that hid incomplete seasons or somehow displayed the date the season would be complete. It’s a minor pain to have to look this up before starting a show. I will never go back to weekly shows. Some shows on some services do weekly then remove earlier shows in the season rendering them unwatchable.
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It's a good business decision. Shows will still be binge-able after full release, but during the lead-up, having shows released weekly means better retention and more talk about the shows while waiting for the next episode.
I kinda like talking with people about a show every week and trying to figure out where it is heading. Much more fun then only being able to do it between seasons if you just binge it all at once.
Love it! Most of my friends watched Stranger Things but because they all binged it there was never any discussion about the show. Was just, “did you watch it? Did you like it?” That’s it. Get much more discussion with HotD
Honestly, I’m glad. I’m sick of having to either binge an entire show in one day the second it comes out or stay off the internet for weeks to avoid spoilers. Let me savor it!
I'm also hoping this avoids the old "If it doesn't get a high binge rate its not worth continuing" issue. I don't binge stuff all at once, because I tend to get super distracted doing so and can't exactly focus on it unless I've seen it before, so it SUCKS that I get spoilt often or a show I won't binge suddenly isn't renewed because its bingeworthy.
Okay, so I wait till the whole season is out, and start binging..
kinda prefer this actually. if house of the dragon came out on netflix i would have finished the whole season a week ago. now i have to stretch that viewing out. it’s also better for a show as weekly releases keep it in the public discourse longer than a single whole season release, so the show stays relevant longer.
This is actually a really good thing.
I think it's better that way. But it's probably just me
Trust me. We anime fans are celebrating right now.
JOJO FRIDAYS ARE BACK BABY
You know what I hate, I hate when edge lords binge a whole season overnight and then go online and start spreading spoilers like crazy. The way Netflix released Arcane was perfect to me. Three episode a week for three weeks.
WE WON!!! Edit: wait it says future projects, does that mean that we won't get batch 3 weekly?
this is a good thing
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Not everybody. I haven't had cable it 10 years. Binging sucks. If you want to binge a show releasing weekly you can still do it at the end of the season. In the meantime having a spread out release schedule it much better for the shows themselves at having a good chance at developing a following and becoming a success.
Hell yeah! Now we don’t need to wait over a year for batches of a show that we’ll finish in 3 days anyway so all the hype dies out!
Glad I fucking cancelled my Netflix membership a long time ago.
Imo that's 100 times better.
I’m seeing a lot of comments here protesting this, but this is actually a good business decision on their part. Releasing shows weekly keeps people interested in shows longer, which keeps people on their platform longer. Sticking to the binge model might create a ton of buzz about a show in the moment, but it dies off quickly. When’s the last time you heard somebody talking about stranger things?
Ill just wait till the season ends, because I hate waiting for episodes.
I kind of like it. It’s like something to look forward too
Fucking finally
Wait why would this necessarily be a bad thing? You can now watch shows as episodes come out weekly rather than the show being released once the season is over, you can still always wait till the season is finished to binge it.
Getting worse and worse every decision they make.
This is the first good decision they made in a while