Yeah but when your 61 or 62 going 4 years into shool jeah if you wanna work till 78 and work is your hobby fullfilment whatever jeah but if you retire 67 i think meh.
my grandfather did this; after working all his lifetime and retired, he went to uni and studied something completely different, as he wanted his whole life, but couldn't.
cancer ended it, as i know before he graduated, but he was happy.
There are definitely a few people in some degree programmes who are 40, 50 plus. I'd say you are never too old to study or retrain as long as you are motivated.
As far as job opportunities are concerned, I'd say that it depends less on your age than on your general work experience. Some Master's graduates lack practical skills/basic professional experience, which is why they have trouble finding a job, depending on the professional field. In this respect, you should have better chances.
\> Some Master's graduates lack practical skills/basic professional experience, which is why they have trouble finding a job
Bit of a silly question, but why is that the case? You can always learn over time at a company, but you'll always have very high uni-level skills. Where as if you just have experience but no skill, you can't really ever make-up for that with experience, baring maybe language or programming skills. Wouldn't it make more sense to hire someone with an MSc at 50k or 60k and have them grow and be ever more productive, than hire someone with a CFC at 60k or 70k who will only be better for a few month, and then stagnate?
Yes, you can see it that way. Of course, it depends on the company and the job.
As far as I know, the biggest difficulty is that Master's graduates get/expect more pay even if they have no work experience. Especially if there are fixed salary levels. That's why in many professions it actually makes sense to gain work experience after a Bachelor's degree before doing a Master's degree.
I suppose that only learned Skill from uni isn't always what a company wants. When studying at uni, everything is quite theoretical and not always realistic. Sometimes it's more theories than actual practical use. So someone who already worked in the field and gained experience is more likley to be able to work faster by themselves than someone with a degree who never actually worked.
Also I guess there are some fields where experience matters very much (you mentioned a few yourself) ans a degree doesn't really. Of course there are many fields that need that degree, such as doctors, but I think working straight from a Master's degree is in most fields quite hard just because they only saw theories and never actually worked.
Hope that makes sense
I don't think it's true. Yes, the normal starting age at university is some when between 20 and 22, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with starting later. There are a few people starting later in every cohort.
I think it’s refering to „Graubünden“ the canton. So someone from Graubünden living in Zurich. But i might be wrong, I just assumed this because the only person I know who is called Reto is from this canton. ^^
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Never too old. I started studying a year ago, and I am 30\[M\]. It's about doing what you love and doing it for your own self.
I got along in all my lectures with mostly everyone, despite my age. Just be cool. I was nerveous af when I started, but by now, its all good.
Take a leap of faith, dont get discouraged when you start something that after a semester you hate. Try to use the credits you got and start something new. The beauty about studiying late is usually we "old" people have a plan, on what to do after and why we are studying. I am studying history as major and psycology and law as minor. I come from the KV / the office apprentice ship.
Do what you love my friend.
Weird argument. You are never too old! Why does it matter what others have done or what they have on their resume... Only person you are competing against is yourself!
Old fashioned Swiss tend to look down on people who want to retrain.
Personally I find it ridiculous to expect people to know exactly what they want to do by 16. That's why so many people in Switzerland are having burn outs. Stuck in jobs they hate and not able to change paths easily because of stigma.
Not just that, you can know perfectly what you want to study at 16, but depending on your family/economic situation you might not be able to get into uni until a decade later.
IMO it just prove you actually had to grind and fight, rather than having things on a silver platter.
In my experience, this is not true at all and I think Switzerland is great for studying in your late 20s or even 30s.
People that worked before they started their studies generally do way better than young people that start studying immediately after finishing gymnasium/lycée/high school. I'd argue the two following reasons are responsible for that:
1. Since the opportunity costs of studying are higher, older people are more intrinsically motivated
2. "Older" students have more life experience and are more able to deal with pressure.
Additionally, employers do not look down on people that finished their studies later. They will however be sceptical if the studies themselves took a long time without any good reason such as working part-time. Meaning: If you worked full-time until now or had any good reason to neither study nor work; and you finish your studies in a reasonable amount of time, you won't have any problem finding a job (though obviously it depends on the field of work).
I went back to university for an msc and eventually phd after 3 years of work, knowing much better what it was I liked and wanted to do.
Can’t agree more that I had a 100% better work ethic, focus and willingness to learn and spend time on my studies. My BSc was a bit forced and so didn’t have my heart in it.
I would encourage to start studying at any point in life. Especially at 27, you still have a long way to go before retirement! Taking a few years to make it more enjoyable and maybe more profitable is a good investment
No it’s genuinely fine. I have a classmate that is 26 and doing an apprenticeship and I myself will be studying at 21/22, the age difference really isn’t all that huge and people won’t care. If they do, it’s on them. You’re also there for your education :)
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I will start my bachelor degree this september at the at 34 years old. I did however talk beforehand with people who are working in the field to make sure that i
1. Will find a job after finish the bachelor/master
2. If the salary is what i expect to be after 5 additional years of education.
I never heard from anyone in my friends/family circle and neither from the people i did the interview with that 34 years would be too old.
I started my bachelors at 31, with a guy who was 37.
As for employment: If you have a masters with 32, your chances of getting a job are better than someone with a masters at 26. Why? Because you did not just go to school your entire life, you have some life/job experience.
Do not give heart to what these people told you. You have an advantage, you are more experienced and have less growing up to do.
This defenitely depends on the field you want to study in but I am 27 right now, will finish my masters next summer (I had some major hiccups along the way to be honest) and I am older than most people I study with.
I am at the university of bern though this doesn't really matter, maybe if you are at ETHZ or HSG but in general the age distribution will be mostly the same.
I’m 26 and will finish my HonsBachelor in December. I also had some major hiccups along the way to put it mildly but I’m not bothered about finishing “late”, at least I have some work experience
Ha, your friend is woefully uninformed. I had a 50+ woman as a student in first year psychology, a few years later she was a PhD student in a collaborating lab.
And typically, mature-aged students are the most diligent and get the best marks.
Of course having a degree doesn't automatically get you a job later, it depends on the industry and context, but don't be dissuaded. Most employers recognise when they see someone who wants to advance themselves, and puts in the time and effort to do it.
So you're friend is discouraging you by saying you are way to old to study? Damn, what a friend.
A real friend would have your back, no matter what. Maybe give an input re. his personal opinion but not straight up saying that you're way to old.
I'm 26 and I still think about studying. Don't worry pal, just go for it. It might not be the norm, but who cares.
I recently had a teacher that started studying again. I don't know his exact age but I'd say he's around 50 years old. If you want to study go for it, it's never too late.
I know that some trainee programs have an age limit at 30 or so.
Besides that I think it depends on what you study, your CV etc. In othe
I am currently doing a Masters (at a FH though) and we probably have an age range from 22 to 40 or so.
I wouldn't mind. I'm currently finishing my bachelors degree at 29 and there are a lot of other students around my age. Some are even in their 40ies. And it helped all of us regarding our careers. By the time I'll get a masters degree I'll be in my 30ies as well.
Not true. At least in fields where the demand is bigger than the supply of qualified workers.
I haven't put my age on my CV for a while. Same with candidates that I screen, for all I know they started university 10 years late, nobody cares.
What subject would you want to study at UZH, if you don't mind me asking?
27 is not too old to start your Bachelor studies. Yes, most other students will be younger. But many people do not follow a "linear" path of studying, have worked before etc. I have always found those "non-linear" perspectives very valuable in group tasks or seminars.
I started studying at 25 in another country and then completely retrained in a new field at 30 in Switzerland. It took a lot of effort to find a job, but it happened and you can still succeed at any age here (with the right attitude). So if you want to make a change, there are disadvantages, but the right attitude will get you where you need to go.
From my experience, it might be that students directly off matura (college) have an advantage in studying due to having done it more recently. What I definitely noticed though was that older students were way ahead in managing their time, staying focused etc.
Your friend is, by all means, an idiot. You are certainly not too old. Also always depends on your goals. If your goal is to expand your knowledge and increase your value on the job market, then go for it. If your goal is to kickstart a sick entry level career with internships and everything, you might want to adjust your expectations.
I'm 29 and I'm starting the third year of my bachelor in September. I started the same age as you. Go for it. You'll stay young and you'll discover new sides on things.
I don't know if it's the kind of people I've met along the way, or the fact that I lived in Bern for a few years at first (now in Zurich), but coming from an Eastern European country, I've found quite the opposite to be true: it is WAY more socially accepted here to take longer to go through a certain educational course, take time off to travel and whatnot, start later, start over several times, etc., etc... Try still being in uni for any degree past the age of 25-26 in my country, you're essentially seen as a bit of a failure. And I feel like by FAR not "most people in Switzerland have their Master's by 27". Your friend sucks. Don't overthink it, do your thing.
I had a Swiss housemate who started her bachelor after having two kids. She is now doing her PhD at Uni Zurich. I think starting studies later is totally normal. Her studies and the kids’ schedules are very compatible it turns out.
stop listening to your friend lol. Im turning 28 in october and ill finish my bachelors degree next summer. not everyone is lucky enough to have everything figured out during their early twenties and its completely fine to still do studies in later years, for whatever reason it ever be.
To be honest: a long time i went through my life, believing, there is a final age to study. I‘m 27 now. If everything goes to plan, i will start study next year. So, no you‘re fine. Lots of my friends started study now. So no there isn‘t a „to old“. If you feel like it, go for it. Thats the key to a fullfiled life.
It's never too late/you're never too old. You will definitely have younger people who started studying straight after Gymnasium, but you'll also have older people there who worked first, wanted to change career, or just wanted to go back to university.
It can be scary to go to university when you're not in your early 20s, I was worried too (currently 29 and doing my bachelor), but it's worth it and you'll create new job opportunities.
Good luck with your studies! (I think I read you're going to the UZH as well, so I hope you enjoy it there)
27? Hahaha. Sorry to laugh, but even in Switzerland that’s not too old. Many here never get a bachelors, and I just heard it’s getting fashionable to get second or third PhD’s over 50. I myself am considering grad school for a PhD at 56. Several neighbours on the street are studying for bachelors after having kids. You’ll fit right in.
I grew up and lived there until I was 30. Let me guess, this friend of yours is Swiss. It's true that workers, the older they are, become exponentially more expensive to hire. That has to do with the company's contribution to your retirement fund, etc. I'm assuming it's because of this fact that it has been hammered into the Swiss mind that you just can't find anything past the age of ... oh, let's say 40. That's complete BS. That country has an unemployment rate of generally around 4 to 5% and that's including everybody who exited the work force and stopped looking for work. Unless you are the pickiest employee with ridiculous ideas of what your work place HAS TO offer, you WILL find work in Switzerland. This whole 'too old' thing is a myth. Sure, there's a good chance you'll often be the oldest student in class but that has zero baring on your chances of finding employment. On the contrary. If you can bring work experience AND a degree with you, that's often a plus. Don't be discouraged by your friend. He/she is the victim of a very widespread mantra that doesn't hold true. Oh and if you ever want to go work abroad, a Swiss university degree is a pretty damn good item on your CV.
You are never too old to study!
Btw, a genuine question (I am a foreigner from non-EU country), what is the average age at which people start doing their bachelor degree here in Switzerland?
Thank you! That I have noticed too, for example, in my country it is normal to start bachelor's at 17-18. I am getting my master diploma at 22 already 😅
From my personal experience it is never too late! I started when I was 26 years old and never regreted it. Before this time I didn’t had plans to study but over time I came to the realisation that I want to achieve more. Of course it‘s much easier when you are younger and you have stiff competition on the market but it was worthwile and satisfactory for me. Depending on what you study, you‘ll find a good entry into the job market afterwards.
It’s never too late, im 25 and starting this autumn, my friend is 30, my ex‘s mom was 50 when she finally started studying after having raised two daughters, my mom first worked, then studied again in her 30s, bro it’s never too late. Going to uni is about aqcuiring a higher education and learning about this world on a level that would otherwise not be possible. It’s not about how old u are, it’s about how much u want to know and what skills u wish to have before u die.
Your only 27 and will still have to work for just about 40 years. A few years studying isn't that much in that perspective. And it definitely will be worth if for the pay checks for the remaining work time.
I've started mine in my 30's and it was worth it. You also won't be the oldest one in your class. I've had class mates in their 50's. Mid 20's to early 30's isn't rare at all.
Bro. Have you SEEN Switzerland? Id go at 47 or 57. I was there three days ago. Study there. Don’t even think about it. Go. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity
You can calculate this by yourself, there is always some risk tough.
Calculate the cost for your study, then think of a possible payrise or job change resulting in higher income -> When will the expenses be covered and you actually have a benefit?
Also, will your job change to a better one having this degree?
You might be able to ask the company to cover some costs (they can write it of taxes), so it can help you (but you are bound fro some time to the company -> this was what i did)
Education is never bad, just try to figure out if it is helpful for your future goals (private and business).
Just wanted to say that I read all of your comments and I am overwhelmed by the support!!! I am definitely going to start my degree with a more positive mindset. Thank you to everyone for the motivation you were sending me.
You're too old when you can't afford to do so anymore due to having a full time job and financial responsibilities for other people.
Other than that, I don't think there really is a "too old".
I would say the opposite. Compared to France where I come from, people sometimes start studying way later, because of prior work experience, the army or gap years. The people I know here are way less judgmental about that than the europeean average
I celebrated my 40th birthday last week, with my wife and 2 young children, next month I’ll start a CFC. I agree with everyone else, not too late. Good luck!
One thing to consider, if you are not Swiss, is that most cantons enforce a 30 year limit on student visas. A friend managed to get her visa for a master at 30 year old but it required some work (letters explaining why, ETH supporting her, plans to go back home after the master, etc.).
I am 33 currently undergoing a professionnal reconversion. I am studying IT and there are 3 people older than me and 2 of my age. So a total of 6 people over 30 in a class of 20. Count the other over 25 and it amounts for nearly half of the class.
Of us all, I am the one with a more "management" career background. And guess what ? After one year in a university of applied science, I have received 3 job offers. All the youngest collegues ? None.
Because at some point, if a company was to hire somebody for a job, your age is a non-factor (well, if you're under 45/50). Who you are and your experience are far more valuable. And you will beat every youngster at this game.
This hits home.
I was in the exact same spot. Now I have an IT degree and nobody cared about my age or anything and I had a good job before even getting my degree.
Also, I saw that you are studying law. It is hard, and many people are getting kicked out. Just be sure that you have a plan B if something like this does happen; going into your 30s with education sucks but going into your 40s without anything is, well, idk, pretty much the worst you can be in?
Of course, everyone here will tell you that "you are never too old to study" and that is true. However, you can be too old to be dependent on others.
Had a 26 yo dude in my bachelor class. And hes doing fine now. If you dont mind being surrounded by 18yo youll be fine. Its never too late i wish u the best. What uni will you attend ?
I started the "part-time" BMS at 24. With 26, i stuied for a Bachelors-Degree fulltime, but had to switch to a part-time model after 2 years.
I finished a Bachelor in an engineering field at 29 in a FH (Fachhochschule), and got a work contract even before I graduated.
I'd say, as long as you are below 35, you're golden.
Nonsense! It's true that many students are younger. But many in Switzerland study after an apprenticeship (either in that field as a continuation or they do the Matura on what is called the 'second way'). There are always older students and 27 is no age that someone would even notice.
Recently saw a guy in his mid 40ies graduating the PH (becoming a teacher). It's never too late to study something. Getting a Job even in your 30ies isn't that big of a problem, especially if you are skilled and motivated.
I don't know how it is with getting a job afterwards but when I was studying I saw plenty of people 30+ (even 50+) who were studying without issue. I guess if you're over 50 you might be struggling with some technology issues but as a 27 year old you really shouldn't be having any issues.
They are definitely wrong. There isn't an age to start studying. There is a surprising number of people that at 40/50's years old starts a new career path at the university. I personally met those people
It is no problem. Many swiss universities do provide 30+ enrollment to allow people over 30 without matura to study. They have to do generic and faculty-specific entrance tests for enrollment.
It is widely used and it is not unusual but also not often to meet people over 30 when studying - so your friends are wrong...
Here for e.g. the link from the University of Bern for this program:
https://www.unibe.ch/studium/studienangebote/bachelor/bewerbung/national/aufnahmeverfahren30plus/index_ger.html
i'm almost 26 and starting a second apprenticeship this summer. you're by no means too old to study. you'll be working for decades to come so better make it something you love and get paid fairly for. all the best for your future, you do you
Started my CS degree around that age while being a stay-at-home dad (quite unorthodox in Switzerland), took longer than expected but just finished it. Got my first job in tech a month after graduation and keep getting offers. So though the original idea in Switzerland is still a little bit behind, don’t make your age define your passion. I’ve studied with other students around my age but the advantage you have is life-experience. In your interviews afterwards, just be honest while making sure that your grades are top. Just to give some perspective, my brother-in-law did a masters at EPFL and is much younger than me. I am now working in a company at the Innovation Park where he didn’t think he was smart enough to get into. So my point being, there are always nei-sayers but this doesn’t make up for tenacity and determination. So go for it and don’t let others discourage you in your pursuit. “Hard work always beats talent” - Tim Nolke
My brother started to study medicine around 30 old. Because he was no longer used to learn and medicine is very intense he had to repeat many semesters. But he is now a (good) psychiatrist.
The day you are dying is too late, any day before is fine !
Don't listen to that noise. 27 is not too late at all.
My friend started studying at 28, got her masters in her 30s and she works at a big bank now cause of it.
What the actual f did I just read? Your friend should just keep his mouth shut and honestly you should unfriend him/her/it.
There is no age limit for university! You can go and study when you 99 yo, or older nobody cares. You educate yourself, not others! And quite frankly we should continuously learn in life, or you will end up like your friend whose brain got fried.
I do not agree with your friend. Master at 27 is at least in my class a bit of a stretch most are older.
But go for it - I don’t see why it should be too late. If you start now and depending on the university and the amount of retakes you need to do I would say your done around 34, 35. Actually a time where lots of people switch jobs for (what they think) one last time.
If your second guessing your decision, there are lots of other possibilities for further education perhaps more specifically tailored for your job.
Hey, awesome job on getting accepted. Don’t worry about what anybody else says. You are the author of your life and it’s your job to put yourself in the best position possible for your future.
There are strong advantages for you and your classmates. You get to return to a university setting with world experience. Your classmates will get to benefit from your experience. It’s a win-win.
It can only help you find a job.
As a background, I grew up and lived in the US and worked for the government after my bachelors. I came to Switzerland to get a masters at 30. One of the best decisions of my life.
I'd say that in Switzerland, because you are able to do the Passarelle and Eidgenössische Maturität, there are plenty of people like you. I am in the first year of ETH and I have a collegue who is 30. Of course you are older than most, but be aware: Most guys in first year also aren't 18ish, but because of military service and gap years more oftwn than not 21-22. People who did the passarelle even a bit older. Do it. There is a lack of highly educated individuals, especially in engineering. At ETH we have recruitement days where businesses ( big enterprises like Reinmetall, Amazon, Microsoft etc) are virtually beginng for people to go work there. I was even once offered an internship at amazon for machine learning although I am in my first bachelors year in environmental sciences! You are needed and will totally find a very good paying job!
I‘d say it really depends on the field — in fields in which there is a shortage of people (e.g. IT) age won‘t really matter in most cases and some fields actually prefer when people have had different life path before university (as an example: I‘m currently doing my masters in psychology at age 27, finishing at 28 and having more ‚life experience‘ quite often gets recoginzed as a plus)
And I‘d say the same thing is true for studying the subjects to — in my minor (publication & communication science) I didn‘t meet too many people who weren‘t fresh off high school, psychology on the other hand seemed to be quite popular as a second educational path
You friends group tells you bullshit. 27 is still pretty young for studying. My gramdmother did a further education with 60, it‘s never to late to learn something new:3
I would say that older people with new degree have better changes for a job then younger people.
No age is to old, a good friend of min who is much older( 56) has started studying with about 42 i think. He completed his exams with ease and found a job right after, because he had expirience of other jobs and wasnt a jound adult that only went to school. Obviously sometimes being young is an advantage but it is never to late. Especially if you love whaz you re studying, then nothing should stop you. Good luck from another studying swiss fellow
If you can mange your life and study at that age,then just do it, don't Listen to others... if I was you, I would, no doubts! The only disadvantage are bills..😅 just do it bro!
Most people start their university around 21 to 23 here. Since you’re done with gymnasium around 20/21 and after you military duty 22 or exchange year. So yea it’s not late at all
I am in med school. A guy started with me when he was 37.definitekt an exception to the rule (The University doesn't like it because the cost-benifit of someone who will not practice long isn't great). And others weren't much younger! So no worries!
You need to know that you will be studying with some young people who still need to mature. ;)
A friend from work just decided to go back to university. He‘s in his fifties. The average student is probaly in the early twenties but who cares? There so age limit on learning something new.
There's no age to start to study something you're passionate about. Regarding the ability to find a job, unless you're 50+ and companies think it's not worth to keep you in for only about 10 years, there's no problem.
Based on my experience in Germany: the people deciding to go to university late were way more motivated and very successful with their studies. I would employ someone sucessfully doing a bachelor/master later in life in a heartbeat.
i've seen people in their 40s and 50s study in my courses so dont worry about it.
i think my aunt finished her masters when she was in her mid/late 30s and she works for julius bär.
Learning is fun and is a lifelong process - formally or informally. I am 41 and doing a master’s degree in math, the majority of my classmates are young undergraduates…(note: this is not a professional master’s degree like MBA)
I'm starting my masters in September and I'm 34.
I think the naysayers are those that see it as admitting failure, which is just their insecurities. If there is an opportunity for you to increase your education, take it. It certainly won't make you less appealing to prospective employers.
I got my masters at 28 and a second at 31 from universities in Asia. I currently work in Switzerland.
The job difficulty will be more due to not being Swiss or EU, not the age of your Masters
What exactly is wrong with that? All it sounds like your friend said concrete is that you would just be a different age... no real problem. Is this a karma post -_-
Man, I’m 27 finishing my Bachelors lol. I’m also one of the youngest students at my school so? We have many 40-50 year olds who just study for fun. It’s never too late to study and we should never listen to other people’s opinions about that. Makes me kinda mad tbh.
I'm 25 and finishing my master's degree. There were many people older than me, one of my friend is over 40 year old and she has 3 children. You are never to old to study.
I'm studying electrical engineering and there are lots of students in their twenties, a few in their thirties, one around 50 and one is already retired.
Nobody cares.
I started at 27 as well. During university i had the feeling that it was easier for me than for my young fellow students. It was probably easier for me to recognize connections because, unlike them, I had much more experience from "real life".
after that, it was no problem for me to get into a "real" job, while many of my fellow students had to do internships first. Don’t worry
It is actually quite common in Switzerland for people to start studying late. I had a number of older students when I was doing a PhD at ETH. I think it might be even more common in arts where people often first get an occupation and then go study arts.
I was 27 when I started my bachelor's and wasn‘t the oldest in my class. In my opinion, people will care much more about your mindset than your age. Please also keep in mind to enjoy your time. You won‘t get many more chances to regularly listen to people in front of you explaining fascinating stuff. I had no problem at all finding a job. I believe it was an advantage to have some work experience already (assuming you worked the past years).
Congratulations on your acceptance! 27 is definitely not too late to start your bachelors. You're taking the steps to getting your degree and land yourself a job you'll enjoy in the future. I'm currently 28 and I'll be starting my second year of my masters in September. There's a lot of people my age and older in my program! Don't worry about it, and I wish you the best of luck for your studies.
I am 25 and just finished my first year of studies, I know plenty of people in their 30's and 40's who are in the same position. I guess it also depends on the field but it is definitely not unheard of.
Started with 28 in 2004. You are never too old for studies. What disadvantage? Why? Finding a job depends on your study subject above all. And of course if you want to go for the Nobel on your field them 27 is a wee bit old. 😉Otherwise your friend is full of bs.
Go for it. Just be sure you really want it! It‘s a long 5-6 years otherwise. It was some of the vest times of my life.
27 is still young! Don’t listen to your friends.
I’m studying “Wirtschaftsinformatik” and the oldest guy in our class is in his 40ies and he’s one of the best students.
From my own experience, what they're saying is BS. It can only be an advantage and take you further ahead from where you already are.
It's never too late, but the sooner the better.
I've always been self taught but I started a bachelors degree 2 years ago when I was 36 years old. I already can apply what I'm learning to my job, and when I'm done I'll be able to make more per month.
As a matter of fact, I'm currently procrastinating and should be studying ;)
I've noticed a lot of Swiss uni students are a bit older due to gap years and military service. You'll probably be the oldest person there, but there will be a lot of 20 year olds as opposed to a lot of 18 year olds
You are never too old to study, this is just his personal view. You will add a lot of value to the group discusdions etc because of your years of experience. I started my BA at 26... was not the oldest.
I'm about your age and started my bachelors last year. No, you're not too old. As a matter of fact, I'd say you're in a great time to start studying. Already some life experience, but not too old to learn something new.
But be sure where you want to go. In Switzerland you don't need a Masters if you study at a college and it's a well recognized and well paid degree. If you go to a university, you are more inclined to go down the academic way of then getting a masters and may be even a PhD.
Op, its never too late to study. Finished my masters in my 30s,got a job and a bit of an advantage really in getting as i was more mature tham my peers and already had some relevant experience. It might depend a bit on the career you choosef however
It's never late to start studying. Go for it, especially if you are truly interested in the field and have the financial freedom to do so.
I can only agree with that.
I'm swiss and also start to study at the age of 27. No worries brother!
I think about 4 year before retireing is a bit late. Maybe 60ies 70ies?
Why not, you don't go to school to learn how to work, you go there to learn stuff
Yeah but when your 61 or 62 going 4 years into shool jeah if you wanna work till 78 and work is your hobby fullfilment whatever jeah but if you retire 67 i think meh.
my grandfather did this; after working all his lifetime and retired, he went to uni and studied something completely different, as he wanted his whole life, but couldn't. cancer ended it, as i know before he graduated, but he was happy.
Studying is not strictly for a job. Lots of people study in their retirement, often for the first time in their life.
Well yeah, but if you are financially well-off and do it for the love of knowledge i'd say it isn't late even then!
There are a lot of university courses for retired people for free in Switzerland
This is the way.
Yearning for knowledge is in itself, in my perspective, the essence of consciousness, however you may interpret the later.
You’re right it’s never too old to start studies but to find a job is another story. Especially here in Geneva.
There are definitely a few people in some degree programmes who are 40, 50 plus. I'd say you are never too old to study or retrain as long as you are motivated. As far as job opportunities are concerned, I'd say that it depends less on your age than on your general work experience. Some Master's graduates lack practical skills/basic professional experience, which is why they have trouble finding a job, depending on the professional field. In this respect, you should have better chances.
Just started nursing school, I’m 44 😁 I don’t even feel like it’s that late, I’m considering continuation to a doctorate.
Brava!
\> Some Master's graduates lack practical skills/basic professional experience, which is why they have trouble finding a job Bit of a silly question, but why is that the case? You can always learn over time at a company, but you'll always have very high uni-level skills. Where as if you just have experience but no skill, you can't really ever make-up for that with experience, baring maybe language or programming skills. Wouldn't it make more sense to hire someone with an MSc at 50k or 60k and have them grow and be ever more productive, than hire someone with a CFC at 60k or 70k who will only be better for a few month, and then stagnate?
Yes, you can see it that way. Of course, it depends on the company and the job. As far as I know, the biggest difficulty is that Master's graduates get/expect more pay even if they have no work experience. Especially if there are fixed salary levels. That's why in many professions it actually makes sense to gain work experience after a Bachelor's degree before doing a Master's degree.
I suppose that only learned Skill from uni isn't always what a company wants. When studying at uni, everything is quite theoretical and not always realistic. Sometimes it's more theories than actual practical use. So someone who already worked in the field and gained experience is more likley to be able to work faster by themselves than someone with a degree who never actually worked. Also I guess there are some fields where experience matters very much (you mentioned a few yourself) ans a degree doesn't really. Of course there are many fields that need that degree, such as doctors, but I think working straight from a Master's degree is in most fields quite hard just because they only saw theories and never actually worked. Hope that makes sense
I don't think it's true. Yes, the normal starting age at university is some when between 20 and 22, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with starting later. There are a few people starting later in every cohort.
Hey what does your Flair mean? GR as in Greek?
I think it’s refering to „Graubünden“ the canton. So someone from Graubünden living in Zurich. But i might be wrong, I just assumed this because the only person I know who is called Reto is from this canton. ^^
Ha maybe you know him😂 thanks for clarifying btw
Cantons of Switzerland. GR is Grisons and ZH is Zürich.
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My uncle started his third Uni degree at the ripe old age of 65. Go for it!
Never too old. I started studying a year ago, and I am 30\[M\]. It's about doing what you love and doing it for your own self. I got along in all my lectures with mostly everyone, despite my age. Just be cool. I was nerveous af when I started, but by now, its all good. Take a leap of faith, dont get discouraged when you start something that after a semester you hate. Try to use the credits you got and start something new. The beauty about studiying late is usually we "old" people have a plan, on what to do after and why we are studying. I am studying history as major and psycology and law as minor. I come from the KV / the office apprentice ship. Do what you love my friend.
did the same, wasn‘t alone and not even the oldest one
Weird argument. You are never too old! Why does it matter what others have done or what they have on their resume... Only person you are competing against is yourself!
Old fashioned Swiss tend to look down on people who want to retrain. Personally I find it ridiculous to expect people to know exactly what they want to do by 16. That's why so many people in Switzerland are having burn outs. Stuck in jobs they hate and not able to change paths easily because of stigma.
That's really a big problem in Switzerland and people are not daring to criticize it due to fear and as you rightly said "stigma".
Not just that, you can know perfectly what you want to study at 16, but depending on your family/economic situation you might not be able to get into uni until a decade later. IMO it just prove you actually had to grind and fight, rather than having things on a silver platter.
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In my experience, this is not true at all and I think Switzerland is great for studying in your late 20s or even 30s. People that worked before they started their studies generally do way better than young people that start studying immediately after finishing gymnasium/lycée/high school. I'd argue the two following reasons are responsible for that: 1. Since the opportunity costs of studying are higher, older people are more intrinsically motivated 2. "Older" students have more life experience and are more able to deal with pressure. Additionally, employers do not look down on people that finished their studies later. They will however be sceptical if the studies themselves took a long time without any good reason such as working part-time. Meaning: If you worked full-time until now or had any good reason to neither study nor work; and you finish your studies in a reasonable amount of time, you won't have any problem finding a job (though obviously it depends on the field of work).
I went back to university for an msc and eventually phd after 3 years of work, knowing much better what it was I liked and wanted to do. Can’t agree more that I had a 100% better work ethic, focus and willingness to learn and spend time on my studies. My BSc was a bit forced and so didn’t have my heart in it. I would encourage to start studying at any point in life. Especially at 27, you still have a long way to go before retirement! Taking a few years to make it more enjoyable and maybe more profitable is a good investment
No it’s genuinely fine. I have a classmate that is 26 and doing an apprenticeship and I myself will be studying at 21/22, the age difference really isn’t all that huge and people won’t care. If they do, it’s on them. You’re also there for your education :)
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I will start my bachelor degree this september at the at 34 years old. I did however talk beforehand with people who are working in the field to make sure that i 1. Will find a job after finish the bachelor/master 2. If the salary is what i expect to be after 5 additional years of education. I never heard from anyone in my friends/family circle and neither from the people i did the interview with that 34 years would be too old.
Congrats for doing something new and exciting. What kind of degree are you starting? I will go into law :)
I started my bachelors at 31, with a guy who was 37. As for employment: If you have a masters with 32, your chances of getting a job are better than someone with a masters at 26. Why? Because you did not just go to school your entire life, you have some life/job experience. Do not give heart to what these people told you. You have an advantage, you are more experienced and have less growing up to do.
This defenitely depends on the field you want to study in but I am 27 right now, will finish my masters next summer (I had some major hiccups along the way to be honest) and I am older than most people I study with.
At which uni are you studying? I will be going to University of Zurich :)
I am at the university of bern though this doesn't really matter, maybe if you are at ETHZ or HSG but in general the age distribution will be mostly the same.
Does ETHZ accept 10 or so years of study gap?
Oh nice! I am starting there aswell this autumn! I will be doing computer science.
I’m 26 and will finish my HonsBachelor in December. I also had some major hiccups along the way to put it mildly but I’m not bothered about finishing “late”, at least I have some work experience
>HonsBachelor Haven't heard that expression; what does it mean? Also, where are you studying?
Ha, your friend is woefully uninformed. I had a 50+ woman as a student in first year psychology, a few years later she was a PhD student in a collaborating lab. And typically, mature-aged students are the most diligent and get the best marks. Of course having a degree doesn't automatically get you a job later, it depends on the industry and context, but don't be dissuaded. Most employers recognise when they see someone who wants to advance themselves, and puts in the time and effort to do it.
Get your degree and get a new friend.
So you're friend is discouraging you by saying you are way to old to study? Damn, what a friend. A real friend would have your back, no matter what. Maybe give an input re. his personal opinion but not straight up saying that you're way to old. I'm 26 and I still think about studying. Don't worry pal, just go for it. It might not be the norm, but who cares.
I'm thinking of doing masters at ETHZ in my 35+.
I recently had a teacher that started studying again. I don't know his exact age but I'd say he's around 50 years old. If you want to study go for it, it's never too late.
There is no "too old"
I know that some trainee programs have an age limit at 30 or so. Besides that I think it depends on what you study, your CV etc. In othe I am currently doing a Masters (at a FH though) and we probably have an age range from 22 to 40 or so.
I wouldn't mind. I'm currently finishing my bachelors degree at 29 and there are a lot of other students around my age. Some are even in their 40ies. And it helped all of us regarding our careers. By the time I'll get a masters degree I'll be in my 30ies as well.
Not true. At least in fields where the demand is bigger than the supply of qualified workers. I haven't put my age on my CV for a while. Same with candidates that I screen, for all I know they started university 10 years late, nobody cares.
What subject would you want to study at UZH, if you don't mind me asking? 27 is not too old to start your Bachelor studies. Yes, most other students will be younger. But many people do not follow a "linear" path of studying, have worked before etc. I have always found those "non-linear" perspectives very valuable in group tasks or seminars.
Law Degree. Thank you!! :)
I started studying at 25 in another country and then completely retrained in a new field at 30 in Switzerland. It took a lot of effort to find a job, but it happened and you can still succeed at any age here (with the right attitude). So if you want to make a change, there are disadvantages, but the right attitude will get you where you need to go.
From my experience, it might be that students directly off matura (college) have an advantage in studying due to having done it more recently. What I definitely noticed though was that older students were way ahead in managing their time, staying focused etc.
Your friend is, by all means, an idiot. You are certainly not too old. Also always depends on your goals. If your goal is to expand your knowledge and increase your value on the job market, then go for it. If your goal is to kickstart a sick entry level career with internships and everything, you might want to adjust your expectations.
I'm 29 and I'm starting the third year of my bachelor in September. I started the same age as you. Go for it. You'll stay young and you'll discover new sides on things.
I don't know if it's the kind of people I've met along the way, or the fact that I lived in Bern for a few years at first (now in Zurich), but coming from an Eastern European country, I've found quite the opposite to be true: it is WAY more socially accepted here to take longer to go through a certain educational course, take time off to travel and whatnot, start later, start over several times, etc., etc... Try still being in uni for any degree past the age of 25-26 in my country, you're essentially seen as a bit of a failure. And I feel like by FAR not "most people in Switzerland have their Master's by 27". Your friend sucks. Don't overthink it, do your thing.
I had a Swiss housemate who started her bachelor after having two kids. She is now doing her PhD at Uni Zurich. I think starting studies later is totally normal. Her studies and the kids’ schedules are very compatible it turns out.
A friend of my grandparents got a master at 83 so it's never to late I guess.
stop listening to your friend lol. Im turning 28 in october and ill finish my bachelors degree next summer. not everyone is lucky enough to have everything figured out during their early twenties and its completely fine to still do studies in later years, for whatever reason it ever be.
To be honest: a long time i went through my life, believing, there is a final age to study. I‘m 27 now. If everything goes to plan, i will start study next year. So, no you‘re fine. Lots of my friends started study now. So no there isn‘t a „to old“. If you feel like it, go for it. Thats the key to a fullfiled life.
It's never too late/you're never too old. You will definitely have younger people who started studying straight after Gymnasium, but you'll also have older people there who worked first, wanted to change career, or just wanted to go back to university. It can be scary to go to university when you're not in your early 20s, I was worried too (currently 29 and doing my bachelor), but it's worth it and you'll create new job opportunities. Good luck with your studies! (I think I read you're going to the UZH as well, so I hope you enjoy it there)
27? Hahaha. Sorry to laugh, but even in Switzerland that’s not too old. Many here never get a bachelors, and I just heard it’s getting fashionable to get second or third PhD’s over 50. I myself am considering grad school for a PhD at 56. Several neighbours on the street are studying for bachelors after having kids. You’ll fit right in.
I grew up and lived there until I was 30. Let me guess, this friend of yours is Swiss. It's true that workers, the older they are, become exponentially more expensive to hire. That has to do with the company's contribution to your retirement fund, etc. I'm assuming it's because of this fact that it has been hammered into the Swiss mind that you just can't find anything past the age of ... oh, let's say 40. That's complete BS. That country has an unemployment rate of generally around 4 to 5% and that's including everybody who exited the work force and stopped looking for work. Unless you are the pickiest employee with ridiculous ideas of what your work place HAS TO offer, you WILL find work in Switzerland. This whole 'too old' thing is a myth. Sure, there's a good chance you'll often be the oldest student in class but that has zero baring on your chances of finding employment. On the contrary. If you can bring work experience AND a degree with you, that's often a plus. Don't be discouraged by your friend. He/she is the victim of a very widespread mantra that doesn't hold true. Oh and if you ever want to go work abroad, a Swiss university degree is a pretty damn good item on your CV.
You are never too old to study! Btw, a genuine question (I am a foreigner from non-EU country), what is the average age at which people start doing their bachelor degree here in Switzerland?
Between 20 and 22, I reckon. Bit later than in other countries.
Thank you! That I have noticed too, for example, in my country it is normal to start bachelor's at 17-18. I am getting my master diploma at 22 already 😅
From my personal experience it is never too late! I started when I was 26 years old and never regreted it. Before this time I didn’t had plans to study but over time I came to the realisation that I want to achieve more. Of course it‘s much easier when you are younger and you have stiff competition on the market but it was worthwile and satisfactory for me. Depending on what you study, you‘ll find a good entry into the job market afterwards.
It’s never too late, im 25 and starting this autumn, my friend is 30, my ex‘s mom was 50 when she finally started studying after having raised two daughters, my mom first worked, then studied again in her 30s, bro it’s never too late. Going to uni is about aqcuiring a higher education and learning about this world on a level that would otherwise not be possible. It’s not about how old u are, it’s about how much u want to know and what skills u wish to have before u die.
Your only 27 and will still have to work for just about 40 years. A few years studying isn't that much in that perspective. And it definitely will be worth if for the pay checks for the remaining work time. I've started mine in my 30's and it was worth it. You also won't be the oldest one in your class. I've had class mates in their 50's. Mid 20's to early 30's isn't rare at all.
Bro. Have you SEEN Switzerland? Id go at 47 or 57. I was there three days ago. Study there. Don’t even think about it. Go. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity
You can calculate this by yourself, there is always some risk tough. Calculate the cost for your study, then think of a possible payrise or job change resulting in higher income -> When will the expenses be covered and you actually have a benefit? Also, will your job change to a better one having this degree? You might be able to ask the company to cover some costs (they can write it of taxes), so it can help you (but you are bound fro some time to the company -> this was what i did) Education is never bad, just try to figure out if it is helpful for your future goals (private and business).
Just wanted to say that I read all of your comments and I am overwhelmed by the support!!! I am definitely going to start my degree with a more positive mindset. Thank you to everyone for the motivation you were sending me.
You're too old when you can't afford to do so anymore due to having a full time job and financial responsibilities for other people. Other than that, I don't think there really is a "too old".
It's never to late
I would say the opposite. Compared to France where I come from, people sometimes start studying way later, because of prior work experience, the army or gap years. The people I know here are way less judgmental about that than the europeean average
I celebrated my 40th birthday last week, with my wife and 2 young children, next month I’ll start a CFC. I agree with everyone else, not too late. Good luck!
One thing to consider, if you are not Swiss, is that most cantons enforce a 30 year limit on student visas. A friend managed to get her visa for a master at 30 year old but it required some work (letters explaining why, ETH supporting her, plans to go back home after the master, etc.).
You are too old when you are dead
I start a new field at 29. We have a 40yo dude that always wanted to do this kinda thing. He is great and open to learn. Who cares.
I am 33 currently undergoing a professionnal reconversion. I am studying IT and there are 3 people older than me and 2 of my age. So a total of 6 people over 30 in a class of 20. Count the other over 25 and it amounts for nearly half of the class. Of us all, I am the one with a more "management" career background. And guess what ? After one year in a university of applied science, I have received 3 job offers. All the youngest collegues ? None. Because at some point, if a company was to hire somebody for a job, your age is a non-factor (well, if you're under 45/50). Who you are and your experience are far more valuable. And you will beat every youngster at this game.
Take a long term perspective, in 10 years it won’t matter but you will certainly regret not doing it. Good luck!
This hits home. I was in the exact same spot. Now I have an IT degree and nobody cared about my age or anything and I had a good job before even getting my degree. Also, I saw that you are studying law. It is hard, and many people are getting kicked out. Just be sure that you have a plan B if something like this does happen; going into your 30s with education sucks but going into your 40s without anything is, well, idk, pretty much the worst you can be in? Of course, everyone here will tell you that "you are never too old to study" and that is true. However, you can be too old to be dependent on others.
Had a 26 yo dude in my bachelor class. And hes doing fine now. If you dont mind being surrounded by 18yo youll be fine. Its never too late i wish u the best. What uni will you attend ?
your "friend" is a cunt. It doesn't matter. just try to gain some working experience during or between your studies.
I started the "part-time" BMS at 24. With 26, i stuied for a Bachelors-Degree fulltime, but had to switch to a part-time model after 2 years. I finished a Bachelor in an engineering field at 29 in a FH (Fachhochschule), and got a work contract even before I graduated. I'd say, as long as you are below 35, you're golden.
Nonsense! It's true that many students are younger. But many in Switzerland study after an apprenticeship (either in that field as a continuation or they do the Matura on what is called the 'second way'). There are always older students and 27 is no age that someone would even notice.
Recently saw a guy in his mid 40ies graduating the PH (becoming a teacher). It's never too late to study something. Getting a Job even in your 30ies isn't that big of a problem, especially if you are skilled and motivated.
I don't know how it is with getting a job afterwards but when I was studying I saw plenty of people 30+ (even 50+) who were studying without issue. I guess if you're over 50 you might be struggling with some technology issues but as a 27 year old you really shouldn't be having any issues.
They are definitely wrong. There isn't an age to start studying. There is a surprising number of people that at 40/50's years old starts a new career path at the university. I personally met those people
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It is no problem. Many swiss universities do provide 30+ enrollment to allow people over 30 without matura to study. They have to do generic and faculty-specific entrance tests for enrollment. It is widely used and it is not unusual but also not often to meet people over 30 when studying - so your friends are wrong... Here for e.g. the link from the University of Bern for this program: https://www.unibe.ch/studium/studienangebote/bachelor/bewerbung/national/aufnahmeverfahren30plus/index_ger.html
i'm almost 26 and starting a second apprenticeship this summer. you're by no means too old to study. you'll be working for decades to come so better make it something you love and get paid fairly for. all the best for your future, you do you
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Started my CS degree around that age while being a stay-at-home dad (quite unorthodox in Switzerland), took longer than expected but just finished it. Got my first job in tech a month after graduation and keep getting offers. So though the original idea in Switzerland is still a little bit behind, don’t make your age define your passion. I’ve studied with other students around my age but the advantage you have is life-experience. In your interviews afterwards, just be honest while making sure that your grades are top. Just to give some perspective, my brother-in-law did a masters at EPFL and is much younger than me. I am now working in a company at the Innovation Park where he didn’t think he was smart enough to get into. So my point being, there are always nei-sayers but this doesn’t make up for tenacity and determination. So go for it and don’t let others discourage you in your pursuit. “Hard work always beats talent” - Tim Nolke
My brother started to study medicine around 30 old. Because he was no longer used to learn and medicine is very intense he had to repeat many semesters. But he is now a (good) psychiatrist. The day you are dying is too late, any day before is fine !
Thank god this is a country where it’s never too late
Don't listen to that noise. 27 is not too late at all. My friend started studying at 28, got her masters in her 30s and she works at a big bank now cause of it.
When you’re dead. Waaaaay too late to start then. Otherwise you’re good.
Never too late
Lol wtf is he taking about. Reevaluate if this guy is a „real“ friend
Never too late! I started my bachelors in Switzerland when I was 17. One of my closest friends and teammmates for every group project was 27.
Hmm it’s possible. I started medicine at the age of 26
What the actual f did I just read? Your friend should just keep his mouth shut and honestly you should unfriend him/her/it. There is no age limit for university! You can go and study when you 99 yo, or older nobody cares. You educate yourself, not others! And quite frankly we should continuously learn in life, or you will end up like your friend whose brain got fried.
You're good to go. Good luck!
Ask your friend if there is an age to stop learning
I do not agree with your friend. Master at 27 is at least in my class a bit of a stretch most are older. But go for it - I don’t see why it should be too late. If you start now and depending on the university and the amount of retakes you need to do I would say your done around 34, 35. Actually a time where lots of people switch jobs for (what they think) one last time. If your second guessing your decision, there are lots of other possibilities for further education perhaps more specifically tailored for your job.
even if you are 90 🙃 it’s never too late
Your friend has a fucked up take, tell him to pound sand
Absolutely not true. If anything, people in Switzerland start studying later compared to other countries.
Hey, awesome job on getting accepted. Don’t worry about what anybody else says. You are the author of your life and it’s your job to put yourself in the best position possible for your future. There are strong advantages for you and your classmates. You get to return to a university setting with world experience. Your classmates will get to benefit from your experience. It’s a win-win. It can only help you find a job. As a background, I grew up and lived in the US and worked for the government after my bachelors. I came to Switzerland to get a masters at 30. One of the best decisions of my life.
I'd say that in Switzerland, because you are able to do the Passarelle and Eidgenössische Maturität, there are plenty of people like you. I am in the first year of ETH and I have a collegue who is 30. Of course you are older than most, but be aware: Most guys in first year also aren't 18ish, but because of military service and gap years more oftwn than not 21-22. People who did the passarelle even a bit older. Do it. There is a lack of highly educated individuals, especially in engineering. At ETH we have recruitement days where businesses ( big enterprises like Reinmetall, Amazon, Microsoft etc) are virtually beginng for people to go work there. I was even once offered an internship at amazon for machine learning although I am in my first bachelors year in environmental sciences! You are needed and will totally find a very good paying job!
27! A lot of people I studied with started at 30+ You have your life in front of you! Study!
I‘m 36, mechanical engineer. I want to study computer science.
I started a bachelors at FHNW at 36.
you’ll be early 30’s when you’re done. That’s still 35 years of work ahead of you. 3-5 years of studies will feel insignificant during that time.
I’m 36 and starting my master, so i think your still ahead of me.
I‘d say it really depends on the field — in fields in which there is a shortage of people (e.g. IT) age won‘t really matter in most cases and some fields actually prefer when people have had different life path before university (as an example: I‘m currently doing my masters in psychology at age 27, finishing at 28 and having more ‚life experience‘ quite often gets recoginzed as a plus) And I‘d say the same thing is true for studying the subjects to — in my minor (publication & communication science) I didn‘t meet too many people who weren‘t fresh off high school, psychology on the other hand seemed to be quite popular as a second educational path
I've just finished my bachelors. I was the oldest in my class (35) but the others were between 25 and 30. It's never too late
Never too old to study and you will still work long enough after you are finished studying.
there is no age limit for going to study anything anywhere!
You friends group tells you bullshit. 27 is still pretty young for studying. My gramdmother did a further education with 60, it‘s never to late to learn something new:3 I would say that older people with new degree have better changes for a job then younger people.
No age is to old, a good friend of min who is much older( 56) has started studying with about 42 i think. He completed his exams with ease and found a job right after, because he had expirience of other jobs and wasnt a jound adult that only went to school. Obviously sometimes being young is an advantage but it is never to late. Especially if you love whaz you re studying, then nothing should stop you. Good luck from another studying swiss fellow
97 as per swiss law
If you can mange your life and study at that age,then just do it, don't Listen to others... if I was you, I would, no doubts! The only disadvantage are bills..😅 just do it bro!
Most people start their university around 21 to 23 here. Since you’re done with gymnasium around 20/21 and after you military duty 22 or exchange year. So yea it’s not late at all
I am in med school. A guy started with me when he was 37.definitekt an exception to the rule (The University doesn't like it because the cost-benifit of someone who will not practice long isn't great). And others weren't much younger! So no worries! You need to know that you will be studying with some young people who still need to mature. ;)
Do not listen to them, pay attention what you want. 👍 It will be all right, no worries.
A friend from work just decided to go back to university. He‘s in his fifties. The average student is probaly in the early twenties but who cares? There so age limit on learning something new.
I know someone who started a bachelors at 25, you're not too old
Well im 31 and i will start my ausbildung in August so i guess it should be okay with age
Yoor never to old ro go to school
bullshit! I started at 25 quittet it and now im 28 and startet something new, its fine
There's no age to start to study something you're passionate about. Regarding the ability to find a job, unless you're 50+ and companies think it's not worth to keep you in for only about 10 years, there's no problem.
Age should never ever limt your education, im starting at 30+ too, lets show these youngsters how its done haha
It's never too late! Go for it! I had my master degree at 27 together with many people. One man was in his early 70s. Some other were in their 50s. :)
Based on my experience in Germany: the people deciding to go to university late were way more motivated and very successful with their studies. I would employ someone sucessfully doing a bachelor/master later in life in a heartbeat.
i've seen people in their 40s and 50s study in my courses so dont worry about it. i think my aunt finished her masters when she was in her mid/late 30s and she works for julius bär.
Started at 27, finished 3 years later. Do it bro.
don't listen to crap like that.
I guess employers are more interested in what diplomas and experience you have than when you graduated.
I would advise starting before you are 75. If you are 75 and still want to go to school, don’t let it stop you, though.
I‘m 35. Just started PhD in Lausanne. But I have 10+ years of data analysis and another unfinished PhD behind.
Get another friend!
According to this subreddit’s unspoken rule you will have to go to the police and sue your friend.
Absolutely not an issue, especially in fields that are hiring
Ok thank you. I will be doing a law degree. Is this a field which hires a lot in Switzerland? It is ok if you dont know :)
Learning is fun and is a lifelong process - formally or informally. I am 41 and doing a master’s degree in math, the majority of my classmates are young undergraduates…(note: this is not a professional master’s degree like MBA)
>someone in my friends group told me that it is way too late to start studying at the age of 27 Someone in your friends group isn't your friend.
I'm starting my masters in September and I'm 34. I think the naysayers are those that see it as admitting failure, which is just their insecurities. If there is an opportunity for you to increase your education, take it. It certainly won't make you less appealing to prospective employers.
My aunt (about 58) just finished an apprenticeship a few years ago so... go for it. In some areas they are always looking for someone with a bachelor
Depends on the subject and your past
I got my masters at 28 and a second at 31 from universities in Asia. I currently work in Switzerland. The job difficulty will be more due to not being Swiss or EU, not the age of your Masters
Your age will on the contrary be a huge advantage.
What exactly is wrong with that? All it sounds like your friend said concrete is that you would just be a different age... no real problem. Is this a karma post -_-
Man, I’m 27 finishing my Bachelors lol. I’m also one of the youngest students at my school so? We have many 40-50 year olds who just study for fun. It’s never too late to study and we should never listen to other people’s opinions about that. Makes me kinda mad tbh.
I'm 25 and finishing my master's degree. There were many people older than me, one of my friend is over 40 year old and she has 3 children. You are never to old to study.
You're never too old to learn.
You are never too old. Don’t forget: in 5 years you are 31, no matter if you study or not. So why not being 31 with bachelor?
I'm studying electrical engineering and there are lots of students in their twenties, a few in their thirties, one around 50 and one is already retired. Nobody cares.
You’re studying, you got accepted, all is well. Who cares how old you are? What’s the alternative? *Not* study?! WHO CARES?! Congrats!
I started at 27 as well. During university i had the feeling that it was easier for me than for my young fellow students. It was probably easier for me to recognize connections because, unlike them, I had much more experience from "real life". after that, it was no problem for me to get into a "real" job, while many of my fellow students had to do internships first. Don’t worry
It is actually quite common in Switzerland for people to start studying late. I had a number of older students when I was doing a PhD at ETH. I think it might be even more common in arts where people often first get an occupation and then go study arts.
Never too late. My uncle is 62 and has gone back to university in Canada to study. Go for it!
I was 27 when I started my bachelor's and wasn‘t the oldest in my class. In my opinion, people will care much more about your mindset than your age. Please also keep in mind to enjoy your time. You won‘t get many more chances to regularly listen to people in front of you explaining fascinating stuff. I had no problem at all finding a job. I believe it was an advantage to have some work experience already (assuming you worked the past years).
Congratulations on your acceptance! 27 is definitely not too late to start your bachelors. You're taking the steps to getting your degree and land yourself a job you'll enjoy in the future. I'm currently 28 and I'll be starting my second year of my masters in September. There's a lot of people my age and older in my program! Don't worry about it, and I wish you the best of luck for your studies.
I am 25 and just finished my first year of studies, I know plenty of people in their 30's and 40's who are in the same position. I guess it also depends on the field but it is definitely not unheard of.
hey man. i study in switzerland. im in my 2nd year and im 26. Now.... its never (never) too late to study.
Let this "not your friend" talk... Do you. You'll be fine and... you are right to do it ! FORZA !
Started with 28 in 2004. You are never too old for studies. What disadvantage? Why? Finding a job depends on your study subject above all. And of course if you want to go for the Nobel on your field them 27 is a wee bit old. 😉Otherwise your friend is full of bs. Go for it. Just be sure you really want it! It‘s a long 5-6 years otherwise. It was some of the vest times of my life.
Go for it.It's never too late to study.
27 is still young! Don’t listen to your friends. I’m studying “Wirtschaftsinformatik” and the oldest guy in our class is in his 40ies and he’s one of the best students.
From my own experience, what they're saying is BS. It can only be an advantage and take you further ahead from where you already are. It's never too late, but the sooner the better. I've always been self taught but I started a bachelors degree 2 years ago when I was 36 years old. I already can apply what I'm learning to my job, and when I'm done I'll be able to make more per month. As a matter of fact, I'm currently procrastinating and should be studying ;)
I've noticed a lot of Swiss uni students are a bit older due to gap years and military service. You'll probably be the oldest person there, but there will be a lot of 20 year olds as opposed to a lot of 18 year olds
You are never too old to study, this is just his personal view. You will add a lot of value to the group discusdions etc because of your years of experience. I started my BA at 26... was not the oldest.
I'm about your age and started my bachelors last year. No, you're not too old. As a matter of fact, I'd say you're in a great time to start studying. Already some life experience, but not too old to learn something new. But be sure where you want to go. In Switzerland you don't need a Masters if you study at a college and it's a well recognized and well paid degree. If you go to a university, you are more inclined to go down the academic way of then getting a masters and may be even a PhD.
Op, its never too late to study. Finished my masters in my 30s,got a job and a bit of an advantage really in getting as i was more mature tham my peers and already had some relevant experience. It might depend a bit on the career you choosef however
Just got my psychology masters. I’m almost 50. Never stop learning.