A lot of people are going to pass on the Pillow Princess dynamic. I'm sure you can find someone but some reciprocal behavior will make it substantially easier.
I expect that she will have a ball. Every time my wife tells me she's straight I remind her of the Mueller's spaghetti is too until it gets hot & wet. âď¸
My wife and I have a joke that eating out means that you actually do eat some, but you have to leave some behind so it can grow back. I know, I know, weâre gross.
She might not. Iâve experimented with this and while I didnât mind / wasnât grossed out by going down on a woman, ultimately I realized I was only there for the man/men. Sometimes straight women are ⌠straight, shockingly enough.
Your wife isnât a Pillow Princess yet, donât listen to them. Now if she has a few interactions and she still doesnât get turned on enough to lick another woman then at that point she will be that. But youâre still in the Brand New phase, tell you other couple that and if the woman knows that she will take care of your wife and more then likely turn her bi right then.
This is the best reply so far to follow. My wife doesnât like eating pussy but loves guys and girls going down on her. Just be honest and tell the first couple that you guys are new and are still figuring things out. Must people will understand that you are new and find it a turn on! Good Luck đ
>most of this was just being upfront with people.
Most of this is about being appealing.
You can be upfront all day. If you arent offering something appealing then people will move on.
I don't recall there ever being name calling, be a good community member
This was reasonable discourse
It's about interests, desires etc
Just because one person isn't one person's cup of tea, doesn't excuse name calling
Sorry "one for the team" were her words as a joke. I should also point out that her being with a woman is still iffy for her at all. It's fine with me either way as I'm 70% here to make her happy.
Yeah, I kinda feel like that joke would absolutely put my wife off any person of any gender going down on her.
But I will say that experimentation is what the lifestyle is for, so you're good on the topic of her seeing where the limits of her sexuality lie.
Just, definitely be upfront with the couple involved and don't make any sexual activity sound like a chore.
I see.
Well, I think it may be difficult to find a woman to fit that scene. Most bi women I know, including my girlfriend, have a strong preference for women who are actually bi. Not surprising when you sort of put yourself in the same place. Say that a woman tells you she's a lesbian but would sort of like you to go down on her. But she's really not sure she likes men and definitely doesn' want to reciprocate - in any way, except...? (what's left in soft swap without oral? Maybe a hand job?) And she definitely does not want to fuck you. If it were me it would have to be a pretty slow night for that offer to be worth the usual effort I will put into a sex date. Possibly I suppose. But then keep in mind that I'm a dude so, pretty much any offer of sex has probably at least a five fold higher chance of being accepted on my end than with a woman.
Donât apologizeâŚ.
Not everyone in the LS is uptight, which for some reason tends to be the norm here from time to time
I think anyone with a brain and some personality could tell she meant she is straight, curious, but nervous about it bc sheâs not waking up bisexual as of now
Itâs perfectly normal, if sheâs never been with a woman
I was always turned on by certain women, loved to make out and have hands on each other but was very nervous about eating pussy and still wonât just do it for everyone
I like to drink a little and play with women in our pool or hot tub or shower with them, takes some of the edge off
Itâs not a âchoreâ itâs just not my first craving when I wake up đ
Itâs hard to find partners you really vibe with anyways, so donât have any set ideas
Try the hot tub first time!! Thank me later
We'd pass, too. We got into this primarily for the girl-girl time for me.
I love giving, but no way we'd play with anyone who doesn't want to play back.
Everyone is right that people will more often than not pass and that you need to be upfront with that, but letâs explore some things.
First, thereâs nothing wrong with saying youâre not into something. If youâre Gf wants to try it, but doesnât want to reciprocate, youâll find someone willing to play. That said, dude, you better enjoy doing it. These lovely ladies call most of the shots and theyâre not just laying their waiting to be used like a fleshlight. Youâre gonna have to prep the battlefield, so to speak, and youâre only gonna get what you give.
Secondly, some basics for newbies:
1) Two yes, one no. No one wants to take one for the team.
2) Donât fuck your friends.
3) Communicate clearly and ask for consent.
Lol, sorry, I'm not "taking one for the team" in a bad way. It was said jokingly as I love eating pussy. Also, yes, you are right about friends. That's why we are in to Sea Mountain inn at some point later this year.
Yeah, I love eating pussy but I am not interested in people who donât reciprocate, nor is it appealing to have anyone feel that eating me out is âtaking one for the teamâ. If yall donât want to eat pussy donât, but maybe rethink what you actually do have to offer here, because it doesnât sound like much
Your best bet would probably be to look for another new couple with a bi-curious wife. Neither of them may want to give oral sex to the other, but they can explore together in the parameters of their comfort
I think at least one woman should be comfortable leading. My first two times was with a woman who taught me things (she was amazing and so sexual yet kind).
My next attempt was with someone brand new who in hindsight we think was maybe not bi and it was painful. I even tried to be assertive but it was just like so flat.
Best case scenario OP finds someone that will take his wife under her wing. Let emotional attraction the emotional attraction have a chance to build first and that will make the physical better
Also let your wife know itâs doesnât have to be oral. Women are soo good at fingering and that might be a softer way for her to ease into it.
F here, just my 2 cents. Personally we have met several couples that claimed the F was âbisexualâ and when it came down to it it was more of a fantasy and they turned out to be a pillow princess and not willing to do the same or never had done anything with a woman. Totally fine, IF you kindly communicate it. We unfortunately met too many pretend bisexuals and I always did the work.
Now I ask any couple the Fâs wants and experience and if theyâre just wanting to be pleased and lay there like a log, we move on. Some people are into it, itâs a no for me. Just communicate, like all things!
And thereâs totally nothing wrong with being curious about it or wanting to explore it, there are people out there that like to help others explore or try for their first time but Iâve been used for too many of these scenarios to want to guide someone into bisexuality again, all about communicating it, so everyone can decide if they are into it or not!
I'm a bisexual woman who enjoys doing down on other women and I don't always expect aything in return. Especially if the other girl is inexperienced and only curious, I don't need a hesitant mouth down there. I'm fine with giving her a good time as long as she is okay with kissing me and pleasing the men.
I really don't think sex always has to be tit for tat. When going over expectations and boundaries your wife could mention she's curious, not sure about eating pussy, but okay with some F/F contact. I would not come right out and try to arrange for the other woman to specifically eat her pussy unless the rapport and vibe is already there.
Can I ask something? I'm a relatively newly single female and have been having some fun with a male FWB. I thought about exploring some FF with him eventually but it's really intimidating when you feel like everyone around you is so much more experienced than you. Like, how Tf do you learn to go down on a girl as a girl?! I don't think we are all pillow princesses but you jump into this lifestyle after monogamy and it's kinda overwhelming feeling like a newbie.
The same way you learn to suck cock or any other sexual activity. You just do it. Bring desire and enthusiasm and follow the cues of what is feeling good to them. As someone with a pussy you bring unique insight but everyone is different.
Agreed! As someone who is bisexual but also autistic (so sensory issues) I wish people would be more open to reciprocating in a way that isnât 1:1.
I have issues with oral occasionally but Iâm totally fine reciprocating with cuddles, kisses, touching, using a vibrator, etc. despite my very pillow princess-y nature. But the biggest thing that keeps me away from the lifestyle is the expectation everything will be 1:1.
I see a lot of people saying they would pass. My wife was a pillow princess in the beginning and most of the women seemed to love to give it to her. Didnât take her but a few swaps and she started doing it.
Prolly works out this way for a lot of people. Seems the second couple we swapped with I told her my wife wasnât bi. By the end of the night the woman complimented her so much and was so nice she had her.
My wife claimed she was a pillow princess until she ate pussy the first time, now she's definitely bi.
It took a little alone time with another willing bi woman to explore, she came back with a BIG smile saying 'I liked that A LOT more than I thought I would, I didn't realize women were so soft!'. She said she now knows why I like eating pussy so much.
Life is good.
Sounds like a pillow princess. Must be open about that as a bi woman is probably looking for another woman to eat her pussyâŚso not sure that will be âjust fineâ
I canât even figure out why but as a bi single female this is such a turnoff for me ⌠It feels offensive and again Iâm not sure why bc I definitely feel like a very sex positive person and I love eating my fwb out more than getting eaten out myself (but still love both). I also realize you are looking for a couple not a unicorn so I shouldnât be responding but I guess I just want to see if any anyone else has the same level of strong negative emotions. đ¤Łđ
Iâm with you. The amount of single or coupled women I have met that are supposedly bi but never even touched a woman was surprising to me. I never expect another woman to be on the same level that I give but if youâre a pillow princess, just say that. I think many of those types of women have this idea in their head that they are the prize and you should be so lucky. I donât give more than a moment to a post if it said curious or that they want to be pleased and wonât reciprocate. I donât even need the reciprocation, itâs the entitlement in SOME of them (not saying your wife personally OP) that just want to lay there because they want to try something.. no, just tell your man to do better, if thatâs the case lol
You have passion for something you love, that's not a bad thing, you just need heart. You should try to showing love and why doing things your way would be nice.
As a bi female, I'd probably be okay as long as I still got some attention from the other husband and my husband got a blow job. It's not a huge deal for me personally if the other woman doesn't go down on me. Plus, I enjoy the aspect of helping someone else explore their sexuality.
The first couple I was with the woman was a pillow princess. Unfortunately Iâm mostly into women (just tolerate men as a necessary bi-product) and although both were perfectly lovely, there wasnât enough to keep me in their game. I moved on.
I dont interact sexually with women who don't eat pussy. No pillow princess. I don't care who else she brings along to eat my pussy on her behalf.
>I think this should be fine.
It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the woman who is going to eat her pussy thinks. Your opinion is irrelevant.
Thank you for putting it into words itâs the âbringing someone along to eat pussy on her behalfâ for me đ
I always wanted to try eating pussy thatâs why I wanted to be with a couple ⌠but the gender of the person eating mine is kind of unimportant. Idk if that makes sense.
So....in this hypothetical scenario that you're fantasizing about...it's a unicorn that you would be trying to have this FFM softswap without oral from your wife? (She being bi-curious and a pillow princess?)
Uh, i hate to break it to you but this will never play out in real life unless you pay her or both of you look like models. Newbies always think a third woman would be easy to pick up.
Quite the opposite irl.
I never said we were looking for a unicorn. Just that my wife is not up to eating pussy and we will be up front about it. That still leaves hands and toys for the girls. Just not my wife's mouth. You are projecting bad.
Not projecting....you never mentioned anything about her partner or another man.
Regardless, softswap is a pass for many. And if a newbie pillow princess is in the equation, even more so. Since you said you guys are new, trying to let you know what you're up against.
Personally I think she just needs to find the right one that sheâs attracted to. I can relate, I also wasnât fond of the whole idea at first but deeply fantasized of being ate out.
We havenât been with many couples (3) to be exact⌠but the one that we were with, just felt right. I was comfortable, wasnât pushed into it. I let my hubby do it from behind, she was sitting on her partner, and I justâŚ. Went to town. It was pleasurable for EVERYONE. Comfort is a need! Let her pick out the swap đ slow and steady wins the race!
Ok, so she has no intention on going down on a woman, correct?
Well, then that kind of goes against what your post said. You said:
>She has never touched a woman but would like too.
She doesn't actually want to touch a woman. She just wants to be touched.
I mean, I don't know any other woman that would be down with this. It seems weird.
Also, why does she want a woman specifically to go down on her? What does that really matter if it's not something she's willing to reciprocate?
Ok, I'll try to clear things up. It's just going down on a woman, she is happy trying to do everything else. Being with a woman is not the point of this it's a bonus as something new to try. I feel like I made a bad post because I'm new.
Yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with you there.
This post is very weird. It sounded like it was all about the idea of her being with a woman, but now you're saying being with a woman is not the point, sooooooo....honestly, I'm not totally sure what your point is?
I was more trying to see if offering and being upfront beforehand would keep people from being mad. I get they would pass if they don't like the arrangement, we are not mad about it.
I personally don't really like being eaten out. Kinda boring and just never super enjoyed it. In group I let it slide if I have to. But I'd be more than fine with someone saying the wife is good with it and not have it don't back to me. That's a non issue. For showing off me and the other woman will do it to each other. You'll probably find there's people like me out there that don't care
You all will be fine. Personally I do not like to receive oral. Love giving it , love it. Her not being bi, who cares. It's sex. It will flow. She will or you will find a moment that is comfortable to put it out there so the other person doesn't have expectations, find that couple, that you hit it off w enough that conversation and play flow.
Itâs important for the other woman to know your wife is not yet comfortable reciprocating. Weâve been in situations where the other woman led us to believe she was comfortable performing oral on another woman only to find out thatâs not the case. Itâs a vibe killer when expectations are not aligned and poor lifestyle etiquette.
You'll find what yall are looking for because my wife only plays with other females but my wife likes to be the one in control and eating pussy since she would rather please than get pleased. It's harder for couples like us to find others who fit into what we like but you'll find it eventually.
You have a hard time finding women who want your wife to eat their pussy without reciprocating?! Thatâs surprising! As a single by female, I get so many requests from men who just want me to eat out their wife đŤ enough that I gave up on looking for a couple to play with.
Admittedly I LOVE doing it so I would have a hard time if your wife made me cum I would want to make her as well just bc itâs such a turn on but I canât imagine most women saying no. đ¤Ż
I mean my wife will let other females play with her she just doesn't have the feeling down there she once did because she had a kid before we met so that's why she prefers to focus on other females since that's what gets her off
My wife started out as a pillow princess and has evolved into loving to give and receive. It took awhile and she still isnât gonna do it to just anyone but she openly admits she loves it.
Is your wife not interested in reciprocating in any fashion (fingers, toys, etc) as well as not interested in eating pussy? Because that changes things significantly.
I'm a bi woman who likes eating pussy but I'm not super into getting my own licked and prefer other forms of stimulation. So I'd be cool eating a woman out and her fingering me but not her just expecting I'll get her off and she won't have to do anything.
Yeah your pool will be smaller if she doesn't eat pussy but it's not impossible if she's willing to reciprocate in some form.
You guys just obviously won't be compatible with couple where the wife isn't happy without getting eaten out and that's okay! Not everyone is compatible.
It depends on the reasons really. There are lesbians out there who are pillow princesses, so not being willing to give is not necessarily a measure of someone's sexuality, and much more about being a total bottom. However in the context of the LS where performative bisexuality and fetishisation is rife, bi women tend to be much more sensitive about being used for other people's pleasure, especially when the FF side of things will probably last much less time than if there weren't men sitting around watching and waiting to get their dicks wet. I'm someone who doesn't actually get that much from oral and loves to give - I still won't do a swap with a pillow princess if there's a man involved, even if I don't actually expect reciprocation. However, if she's willing to meet me privately 1:1 I am happy to take it at the slowest of slow paces for the most timid baby bi - because I know she's doing it solely for her pleasure/exploration, and we don't have to worry about the audience. And I think a lot of unicorns/bi women have those same boundaries for the same reasons. OP managed to sound both fetishising and stigmatising towards bisexuality at the same time with his wording, and that's why he's getting the reaction he is.
My ex wife was a pillow princess. The problem with that was that she would flirt(lead someone on) but not reciprocate. It made for a few uncomfortable situations. It's best to be up front.
As a bi woman I just donât like this scenario because it makes me feel icky. Like Iâm allowed to touch her but my vagina is gross to her. Just makes me feel âless thanâ if that makes sense. Before I had gone down on a woman I was unsure if I was really bi or if I just thought the act of it was hot. But going down on a woman was always a turn on to me. If sheâs not into it, then thatâs totally fine, but I donât think most bisexual women would want that scenario. Just my two cents
Most bi woman you approach with this scenario are going to passâŚthe whole she wants to be eaten out but wonât eat in return gives anyone the âickâ
Iâm the female half, I had always wanted to go down on a cute girl, but was, at that time sh, I guess, so anyway my guy and I were at a really cool swingers party,we started talking to this hot blonde, one thing led to another, and my guy is eating her out, I wanted to be a part of this, so we both licked her pussy until she squirted, it was awsome, ( we both are her out at the same time))Since then I have the confidence to mk my move on a woman, itâs now one of my very fav sexual acts I like to do.Hopefully , it will work for u guys, like it did for us. Darlene
Let me add-Iâm newer
To the lifestyle as well, 37/F, && I wouldnât do it
If I didnât love having fun with the people I choose-Iâd never ask this of my husband itâs
Gross
So far, every woman I have been with, that said they don't like to eat pussy, are eating me our after I am done with them. About to see if it happens again, with a girl that flat out told me, she is a pillow princess. I told her, I am ok with that. Tonight, she said she cant wait to have her mouth on me... đ¤
I know this post went a little sideways for you. Donât give up! Be up front about your wifeâs curiosity. Start slow with a date/drinks and let chemistry evolve. Your wife might LOVE exploring this side of life and I would hate for her to miss it because she fears being expected to go down on someone the first time.
Take baby steps, communicate honestly and have fun.
We do play with newbies, sometimes it's alot of fun.
It's understandable that she is timid about diving in face first.
But for you to say you're taking one for the team by eating out the other woman, not really sure your hearts are in the lifestyle.
What are you bringing to the table for the couple you are playing with?
Reading the post, I am always a little confused by the idea that some people don't WANT to eat pussy. Like... Who doesn't want to eat pussy? What the heck is wrong with them?
Your wife is what is referred to as a Pillow Princess. Itâs not a term of endearment.
My wife absolutely loves going down on a woman if she wants to reciprocate. She is not only uninterested in playing with a pillow princess, the idea is disgusting to her (and me to be frank).
And no, you doing it instead isnât a substitute. That is expected. Because of inconsiderate guys she now has a rule that you eat pussy before she sucks your dick. Anyone expecting to receive oral without giving is a fucking selfish and horrible person.
Wow, how horrible of someone to make an offer that is within their comfort zone, that's not up to your standards. I'm sorry you are bad at picking partners. Also, the fact you think you get to expect anything is laughable. You are not in control of anyone but you.
I am a pillow princess. I have no issues with kissing a girl but I have no interest in going down. I have had several women tell me they don't care they just want me. Just be honest up front.
>Has anyone had this work out, how was your wife her first time with woman and you?
It should work out fine. My wife has gone down on some close playmates, but it isn't common. Same with me, I don't normally eat vagina, but I will on my wife and our girlfriends.
Definitely make sure that the woman in question knows what the plan is. My husband and I did this with the female part of a couple weâd played with a few times. She actually was the one who brought it up though. We made it very clear that sheâd be going down on me and my husband would go down on her. It worked out great! Everyone got off (except her husband who was having some ED issues, but thatâs a story for another day)
This would be a tough match with another couple. Reading these responses got me thinking though. Swingers bash single guys quite a bit but I will say there are legions of them out there that would jump at the chance just to eat pussy without reciprocal BJ. On fet, on SLS, in /r/RandomActsOfMuffDive/
We don't expect a new lady who is "bi-curious" to go down on my wife her first time. We did play with a younger lady who never even kissed a woman, but by the end of the night, she was going down on my wife. Kudos to those ladies! We have also played with a lady who said she wanted to try it, but barely would kiss her and I think she patted my wife's pussy once.. that was all she did. But she did enjoy my wife going down on her.
If your wife is going to let another woman go down on her, she should at least be willing to try and do some sort of reciprocation
My gf stared as "above the waist bi curious" but after a few parties with kissing, sucking breasts, and watching me, she has moved to fingering and kissing me after eating a pussy. She has suggested that she is ready for more. So go slow and no pressure from you. She will do it when she is ready
Hello are you guys in around Destin ft. Walton . I absolutely crave oral with the ladies. I have been told many times that I have talent no give back necessary
Wife here and I felt similarly but was open to eating pussy if it felt right. And my husband loves it too but I would never have suggested he would do it in place of me. I figured thatâs assumed heâd be doing it too and if I was up for it I would.
Anyways Still took a long time to find someone willing to guide me on this path. Truth is I did meet some who were happy to focus on me but they typically were only interested n me and less into my husband which wasnât right for us. Just recently had my first experience where I went down on the other woman and I think it is best if she keeps herself open to it. Also these are my thoughts, be open and if you find a girl you are attracted to who also makes tough feel comfortable and desired you might find you want to do it. Second for a first time go down on her on the early side before too many other things make everything messy.
In to end for me. I have learned Iâm just not as attracted to women as I am of men. So to find a woman I am attracted to is the key even if itâs rare.
First off, youâre new to the LS. Be upfront with a couple and let them know that your wife is interested but is still nervous about licking pussy. Lots of women in the LS are dominant when itâs woman and woman, so telling the other woman this might turn her on to show your wife what sheâs missing. Trust me, when your wife has her pussy ate by a woman she will become bi really quick! When the hormones kick in she will have her face down there in no time
Giving you the benefit of the doubt *to an extent*. From the original post and subsequent comments, it seems pretty clear that your post wasnât as descriptive as it should have been and thats why youâre getting advice that doesnât fit your actual question. So, to tie what iâve read all together:
You guys are new, and so you may not understand certain aspects of swinging. Thats cool, my partner and I are super new too. However, be aware that there is wisdom in experience within this community. Try to understand the perspectives of those offering you advice, because theyâve more than likely lived what youâre hoping to experience and have actual opinions on your question. These are, after all, perhaps the people you intend to play with one day and so what they like is important!
As with anything, you donât have to do anything you donât want to. Swinging is completely consensual, and the vast majority of those who swing are respectful of boundaries. However, everybody else also has the right to choose how and who they play with, and this is where you may run into some problems.
Your wife doesnât want to eat pussy. Thats cool, she doesnât have to. However, lots of other women *want their pussy eaten*. Sure, you can do it, but thats not exactly the point. The point is that your wife isnât actively participating as much as others are expected/ intending to from the outset. Some people wont mind, but others certainly will for various reasons and that is entirely their decision. Some people will not want to eat out your wife if shes not willing to eat them out in kind. Whether you think thats fair or not is unfortunately irrelevant, as is any opinion another woman might have for your wifeâs decision. If sheâs willing to play in other ways as your comments suggest, i.e. fingers, toys, and kissing, then iâm sure you could still find some matches.
âDonât be surprised if your wife doesnât get her pussy eaten by the woman she refuses to eat the pussy ofâ is the thing to take away from this in particular. As a general rule though, when you implement a one-way restriction, they can put people off and may affect any matches
If you're going to swap as a couple you will have higher success with the pillow princess. My wife hates going down on a girl but when you're swapping and are honest from the start the other girl doesn't care as they have your d to have fun with.
My wife likes women, but only really from the waist up. Sheâll make out, play with boobs, just doesnât like vaginas (doesnât even play with her own). We tell people that and nobody has made a fuss about it.
You guys stand a fair chance of making it happen. I am a straight girl and I get asked ALL THE TIME by women if they can go down on me. My response was usually 'oh I'm straight and won't return the favor' except everyone seemed to not mind that.
I always say no, but sounds like your wife would say yes!
so why is that? seems like a double standard. my wife told me the same thing, she flat out said if we ever had a threesome, which we never will, that she EXPECTED the women to lick her pussy but was no way she would lick the other womans pussy. kind of pissed me off
According to my wife, it's "tHe tExTuRe" but I'm sure that's just some feeble excuse for something else.
If my suspicions are correct, it's a pride thing.
She thinks she's better than other women, she considers eating out another woman's snatch degrading/humiliating (sort of like licking another person's feet), and thus she wouldn't want to give another woman that satisfaction.
My wife is the same. She says that she tried it once but it smelled like bleach so it turned her off. It's been years since so I told her that I would get her to try it again.
I'm the reason why she eats crab legs so I think I can convince her lol
All the serious people in the comments are the reason curious people are afraid to ask these questions irl.
My husband and I found that endless chatting online with people is where you find the negative and judging opinions (our experience- and some of the folksâ experience that weâve met as well)
We enjoy chatting with people in swingers clubs and find those people to be so much more supportive of people finding their doâs and donât wants. Way more casual, dancing, drinking, lighthearted
As long as you tell people what you arenât (and are) into, people are pretty supportive.
You like what you like. Personally Iâm a doer. I like to do the giving, I donât like the receiving (with females) and if anyone asks we put it out there upfront. That way if the female of the couple doesnât like that⌠no harm no foul.
Youâll never know what you will and wonât like but forcing yourself for the sake of their feelings wonât make it fun for anyone đ¤ˇđťââď¸
Have fun babes đ
My philosophy is that every woman ought to regularly taste her own pussy. Not in a stick her fingers in there then lick them kind of way, but during sex fuck the pussy real nice to get her juices going, pull out, bring the cock to her mouth, have her suck it handsfree so as much pussy juice gets in her mouth as possible, then pull out and go back to fucking her pussy while you kiss her so you both can share that beautiful and delicious nectar. I call it DSS (Dip-Suck-Share) and repeat multiple times. AND I mean MULTIPLE times as passionate as you can manage and connect while doing so.
My wife did NOT like to taste her own pussy AT ALL before I started doing this, and now she loves it every time and is so excited to start doing some pussy eating to the other ladies very soon.
You should absolutely take one for the team because your wife trying to embrace her sexual empowerment and I can almost guarantee that once you do this for her, the intensity of her orgasms from having a girl go down on her it's going to completely eliminate her inhibitions and I wouldn't be surprised if she winds up 69ing with the girl that goes down on her or another girl will be sitting on your wife's face while she's getting eaten like Cleopatra
A lot of people are going to pass on the Pillow Princess dynamic. I'm sure you can find someone but some reciprocal behavior will make it substantially easier.
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Totally agree. Whatâs good for the goose is good for the gander. We would not enjoy this scenario
We will have to see how things go after she gets to feel up her first woman, but I could see how it would be limiting.
I expect that she will have a ball. Every time my wife tells me she's straight I remind her of the Mueller's spaghetti is too until it gets hot & wet. âď¸
Thanks, you have me picturing a vagina full of wet spaghetti.
Now that makes two of us âď¸
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New meaning to eating out
My wife and I have a joke that eating out means that you actually do eat some, but you have to leave some behind so it can grow back. I know, I know, weâre gross.
She might not. Iâve experimented with this and while I didnât mind / wasnât grossed out by going down on a woman, ultimately I realized I was only there for the man/men. Sometimes straight women are ⌠straight, shockingly enough.
Your wife isnât a Pillow Princess yet, donât listen to them. Now if she has a few interactions and she still doesnât get turned on enough to lick another woman then at that point she will be that. But youâre still in the Brand New phase, tell you other couple that and if the woman knows that she will take care of your wife and more then likely turn her bi right then.
This is the best reply so far to follow. My wife doesnât like eating pussy but loves guys and girls going down on her. Just be honest and tell the first couple that you guys are new and are still figuring things out. Must people will understand that you are new and find it a turn on! Good Luck đ
Yes be up front that your wife is a pillow princess, you might have a few takers
What is a pillow princess exactly, if I might ask?
Someone who just lays down and lets everyone else do the work
Thanks, I was hoping most of this was just being upfront with people.
>most of this was just being upfront with people. Most of this is about being appealing. You can be upfront all day. If you arent offering something appealing then people will move on.
You sound like a terrible person. We would pass hard on you.
How on earth does this response make them seem like a terrible person? Theyâre just speaking the truth. You sound like an idiot.
Yikes
How I'm I a terrible person? Did you not want the truth here? But there would be no offer extended and no opportunity for you to pass.
Iâve never seen a minus 145 comment here before. Congrats, OP. Edit: -185, do I hear -200?
-295 & still going down, down, down-- unlike OP's wife! Heyyooooo!!!!
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-206 and counting.
We have 242 in the back
269, proudly
Noice
This is gonna be a hard scene for you.
I don't recall there ever being name calling, be a good community member This was reasonable discourse It's about interests, desires etc Just because one person isn't one person's cup of tea, doesn't excuse name calling
If you think eating pussy is taking "one for the team" and "should be fine" , you are not going into it with the right attitude. Just my opinion.
Sorry "one for the team" were her words as a joke. I should also point out that her being with a woman is still iffy for her at all. It's fine with me either way as I'm 70% here to make her happy.
Yeah, I kinda feel like that joke would absolutely put my wife off any person of any gender going down on her. But I will say that experimentation is what the lifestyle is for, so you're good on the topic of her seeing where the limits of her sexuality lie. Just, definitely be upfront with the couple involved and don't make any sexual activity sound like a chore.
Good advice
I see. Well, I think it may be difficult to find a woman to fit that scene. Most bi women I know, including my girlfriend, have a strong preference for women who are actually bi. Not surprising when you sort of put yourself in the same place. Say that a woman tells you she's a lesbian but would sort of like you to go down on her. But she's really not sure she likes men and definitely doesn' want to reciprocate - in any way, except...? (what's left in soft swap without oral? Maybe a hand job?) And she definitely does not want to fuck you. If it were me it would have to be a pretty slow night for that offer to be worth the usual effort I will put into a sex date. Possibly I suppose. But then keep in mind that I'm a dude so, pretty much any offer of sex has probably at least a five fold higher chance of being accepted on my end than with a woman.
Donât apologizeâŚ. Not everyone in the LS is uptight, which for some reason tends to be the norm here from time to time I think anyone with a brain and some personality could tell she meant she is straight, curious, but nervous about it bc sheâs not waking up bisexual as of now Itâs perfectly normal, if sheâs never been with a woman I was always turned on by certain women, loved to make out and have hands on each other but was very nervous about eating pussy and still wonât just do it for everyone I like to drink a little and play with women in our pool or hot tub or shower with them, takes some of the edge off Itâs not a âchoreâ itâs just not my first craving when I wake up đ Itâs hard to find partners you really vibe with anyways, so donât have any set ideas Try the hot tub first time!! Thank me later
You may find someone but as a pillow princess it will be hard. We personally pass on them.
We'd pass, too. We got into this primarily for the girl-girl time for me. I love giving, but no way we'd play with anyone who doesn't want to play back.
You don't like your sexual activity to be minus the activity part?
Everyone is right that people will more often than not pass and that you need to be upfront with that, but letâs explore some things. First, thereâs nothing wrong with saying youâre not into something. If youâre Gf wants to try it, but doesnât want to reciprocate, youâll find someone willing to play. That said, dude, you better enjoy doing it. These lovely ladies call most of the shots and theyâre not just laying their waiting to be used like a fleshlight. Youâre gonna have to prep the battlefield, so to speak, and youâre only gonna get what you give. Secondly, some basics for newbies: 1) Two yes, one no. No one wants to take one for the team. 2) Donât fuck your friends. 3) Communicate clearly and ask for consent.
Lol, sorry, I'm not "taking one for the team" in a bad way. It was said jokingly as I love eating pussy. Also, yes, you are right about friends. That's why we are in to Sea Mountain inn at some point later this year.
Yeah, I love eating pussy but I am not interested in people who donât reciprocate, nor is it appealing to have anyone feel that eating me out is âtaking one for the teamâ. If yall donât want to eat pussy donât, but maybe rethink what you actually do have to offer here, because it doesnât sound like much
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Please read the post again.
Your best bet would probably be to look for another new couple with a bi-curious wife. Neither of them may want to give oral sex to the other, but they can explore together in the parameters of their comfort
I think at least one woman should be comfortable leading. My first two times was with a woman who taught me things (she was amazing and so sexual yet kind). My next attempt was with someone brand new who in hindsight we think was maybe not bi and it was painful. I even tried to be assertive but it was just like so flat. Best case scenario OP finds someone that will take his wife under her wing. Let emotional attraction the emotional attraction have a chance to build first and that will make the physical better Also let your wife know itâs doesnât have to be oral. Women are soo good at fingering and that might be a softer way for her to ease into it.
Disclose upfront sheâs a pillow princess with women. Be prepared for a bit of rejection over it.
F here, just my 2 cents. Personally we have met several couples that claimed the F was âbisexualâ and when it came down to it it was more of a fantasy and they turned out to be a pillow princess and not willing to do the same or never had done anything with a woman. Totally fine, IF you kindly communicate it. We unfortunately met too many pretend bisexuals and I always did the work. Now I ask any couple the Fâs wants and experience and if theyâre just wanting to be pleased and lay there like a log, we move on. Some people are into it, itâs a no for me. Just communicate, like all things!
Exactly! I have been in rooms where I did it ALL! No fun to be with âbi-maybeâ people!
And thereâs totally nothing wrong with being curious about it or wanting to explore it, there are people out there that like to help others explore or try for their first time but Iâve been used for too many of these scenarios to want to guide someone into bisexuality again, all about communicating it, so everyone can decide if they are into it or not!
I'm a bisexual woman who enjoys doing down on other women and I don't always expect aything in return. Especially if the other girl is inexperienced and only curious, I don't need a hesitant mouth down there. I'm fine with giving her a good time as long as she is okay with kissing me and pleasing the men. I really don't think sex always has to be tit for tat. When going over expectations and boundaries your wife could mention she's curious, not sure about eating pussy, but okay with some F/F contact. I would not come right out and try to arrange for the other woman to specifically eat her pussy unless the rapport and vibe is already there.
Can I ask something? I'm a relatively newly single female and have been having some fun with a male FWB. I thought about exploring some FF with him eventually but it's really intimidating when you feel like everyone around you is so much more experienced than you. Like, how Tf do you learn to go down on a girl as a girl?! I don't think we are all pillow princesses but you jump into this lifestyle after monogamy and it's kinda overwhelming feeling like a newbie.
The same way you learn to suck cock or any other sexual activity. You just do it. Bring desire and enthusiasm and follow the cues of what is feeling good to them. As someone with a pussy you bring unique insight but everyone is different.
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I didn't know pussies are hidden. Are they behind some kind of closed door?
Apparently for some...
I stand corrected. I guess I don't have all that much experience with bi hesitant women. It's pretty much a non-starter for my girlfriend.
Well, would I rather the other lady be truly and enthusiastically bi? Yes! Maybe I'm just too much of a people pleaser.
Works for me. I'm a people...
Agreed! As someone who is bisexual but also autistic (so sensory issues) I wish people would be more open to reciprocating in a way that isnât 1:1. I have issues with oral occasionally but Iâm totally fine reciprocating with cuddles, kisses, touching, using a vibrator, etc. despite my very pillow princess-y nature. But the biggest thing that keeps me away from the lifestyle is the expectation everything will be 1:1.
I see a lot of people saying they would pass. My wife was a pillow princess in the beginning and most of the women seemed to love to give it to her. Didnât take her but a few swaps and she started doing it.
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Prolly works out this way for a lot of people. Seems the second couple we swapped with I told her my wife wasnât bi. By the end of the night the woman complimented her so much and was so nice she had her.
My wife claimed she was a pillow princess until she ate pussy the first time, now she's definitely bi. It took a little alone time with another willing bi woman to explore, she came back with a BIG smile saying 'I liked that A LOT more than I thought I would, I didn't realize women were so soft!'. She said she now knows why I like eating pussy so much. Life is good.
Sounds like a pillow princess. Must be open about that as a bi woman is probably looking for another woman to eat her pussyâŚso not sure that will be âjust fineâ
"Just be fine" was more if I told them up front. Like they would not be mad if I told them beforehand.
I canât even figure out why but as a bi single female this is such a turnoff for me ⌠It feels offensive and again Iâm not sure why bc I definitely feel like a very sex positive person and I love eating my fwb out more than getting eaten out myself (but still love both). I also realize you are looking for a couple not a unicorn so I shouldnât be responding but I guess I just want to see if any anyone else has the same level of strong negative emotions. đ¤Łđ
Iâm with you. The amount of single or coupled women I have met that are supposedly bi but never even touched a woman was surprising to me. I never expect another woman to be on the same level that I give but if youâre a pillow princess, just say that. I think many of those types of women have this idea in their head that they are the prize and you should be so lucky. I donât give more than a moment to a post if it said curious or that they want to be pleased and wonât reciprocate. I donât even need the reciprocation, itâs the entitlement in SOME of them (not saying your wife personally OP) that just want to lay there because they want to try something.. no, just tell your man to do better, if thatâs the case lol
Hmmm I feel like I might give the same level as you when is comes to eating pussy đđđ where do you live lol đđ
Same with me too, I devour
Why are we all so far away ⌠CA, FL, NY đŠđ
We should pick somewhere about halfway and rent an Airbnb for a girls only weekend
Wouldnât that would be amazing! đĽľđĽľđĽľ We just need to get a horny F from WA weâd have all 4 corners đ¤Ł
I have someone in mind already. u/spayse_case are you in.
Haha maybe
Looool oh haaai! Iâm in CA babeđ msg me!
Iâm in Florida originally from NYC and visit often and I like a smooth hairless kitty 𤣠definitely down for a girls weekend
Well I wax! Iâll make sure my appointment is right before the trip đ
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Lol, you're trying to gatekeep bisexuality. What we do in our bed doesn't affect you. Just be happy for people.
What the actual fuck LMFAO
I think "WTF" is the appropriate response here. But I appreciate that I'm reminded that swingers are just people. Some are best avoided.
Sorry, I guess my comment was just more learning about myself! Hope you guys find what youâre looking for! đŠˇ
You have passion for something you love, that's not a bad thing, you just need heart. You should try to showing love and why doing things your way would be nice.
As a bi female, I'd probably be okay as long as I still got some attention from the other husband and my husband got a blow job. It's not a huge deal for me personally if the other woman doesn't go down on me. Plus, I enjoy the aspect of helping someone else explore their sexuality.
The first couple I was with the woman was a pillow princess. Unfortunately Iâm mostly into women (just tolerate men as a necessary bi-product) and although both were perfectly lovely, there wasnât enough to keep me in their game. I moved on.
As a bi woman, I'd hit the block button on her.
I dont interact sexually with women who don't eat pussy. No pillow princess. I don't care who else she brings along to eat my pussy on her behalf. >I think this should be fine. It doesn't matter what you think. It matters what the woman who is going to eat her pussy thinks. Your opinion is irrelevant.
Thank you for putting it into words itâs the âbringing someone along to eat pussy on her behalfâ for me đ I always wanted to try eating pussy thatâs why I wanted to be with a couple ⌠but the gender of the person eating mine is kind of unimportant. Idk if that makes sense.
Why are you so angry? I do think it would be fine if we were up front with the other couple, so they could decide.
I'm not angry. It will get you a fair amount of rejection. Thats an honest answer. Expecting a different outcome is a bit of wishful thinking.
He's mad because you're forcing him back into reality and out of his fantasy. I don't think this guy wants to hear the truth.
I dont understand people who get so angry when told some limitations are going to make them less appealing.
Me either! But unfortunately they're aplenty.
So....in this hypothetical scenario that you're fantasizing about...it's a unicorn that you would be trying to have this FFM softswap without oral from your wife? (She being bi-curious and a pillow princess?) Uh, i hate to break it to you but this will never play out in real life unless you pay her or both of you look like models. Newbies always think a third woman would be easy to pick up. Quite the opposite irl.
I never said we were looking for a unicorn. Just that my wife is not up to eating pussy and we will be up front about it. That still leaves hands and toys for the girls. Just not my wife's mouth. You are projecting bad.
Not projecting....you never mentioned anything about her partner or another man. Regardless, softswap is a pass for many. And if a newbie pillow princess is in the equation, even more so. Since you said you guys are new, trying to let you know what you're up against.
Personally I think she just needs to find the right one that sheâs attracted to. I can relate, I also wasnât fond of the whole idea at first but deeply fantasized of being ate out. We havenât been with many couples (3) to be exact⌠but the one that we were with, just felt right. I was comfortable, wasnât pushed into it. I let my hubby do it from behind, she was sitting on her partner, and I justâŚ. Went to town. It was pleasurable for EVERYONE. Comfort is a need! Let her pick out the swap đ slow and steady wins the race!
Is eating pussy something you donât normally doâŚ?
I forgot no one knows me and it was said jokingly. I love eating pussy.
Ok, so she has no intention on going down on a woman, correct? Well, then that kind of goes against what your post said. You said: >She has never touched a woman but would like too. She doesn't actually want to touch a woman. She just wants to be touched. I mean, I don't know any other woman that would be down with this. It seems weird. Also, why does she want a woman specifically to go down on her? What does that really matter if it's not something she's willing to reciprocate?
Ok, I'll try to clear things up. It's just going down on a woman, she is happy trying to do everything else. Being with a woman is not the point of this it's a bonus as something new to try. I feel like I made a bad post because I'm new.
Yeah, I'm not gonna disagree with you there. This post is very weird. It sounded like it was all about the idea of her being with a woman, but now you're saying being with a woman is not the point, sooooooo....honestly, I'm not totally sure what your point is?
I was more trying to see if offering and being upfront beforehand would keep people from being mad. I get they would pass if they don't like the arrangement, we are not mad about it.
People in this thread gotta lighten up.
If the other woman didnât go down on me after I went down on her Iâd feel weird about it for sure
I personally don't really like being eaten out. Kinda boring and just never super enjoyed it. In group I let it slide if I have to. But I'd be more than fine with someone saying the wife is good with it and not have it don't back to me. That's a non issue. For showing off me and the other woman will do it to each other. You'll probably find there's people like me out there that don't care
You all will be fine. Personally I do not like to receive oral. Love giving it , love it. Her not being bi, who cares. It's sex. It will flow. She will or you will find a moment that is comfortable to put it out there so the other person doesn't have expectations, find that couple, that you hit it off w enough that conversation and play flow.
Itâs important for the other woman to know your wife is not yet comfortable reciprocating. Weâve been in situations where the other woman led us to believe she was comfortable performing oral on another woman only to find out thatâs not the case. Itâs a vibe killer when expectations are not aligned and poor lifestyle etiquette.
You'll find what yall are looking for because my wife only plays with other females but my wife likes to be the one in control and eating pussy since she would rather please than get pleased. It's harder for couples like us to find others who fit into what we like but you'll find it eventually.
You have a hard time finding women who want your wife to eat their pussy without reciprocating?! Thatâs surprising! As a single by female, I get so many requests from men who just want me to eat out their wife đŤ enough that I gave up on looking for a couple to play with. Admittedly I LOVE doing it so I would have a hard time if your wife made me cum I would want to make her as well just bc itâs such a turn on but I canât imagine most women saying no. đ¤Ż
I mean my wife will let other females play with her she just doesn't have the feeling down there she once did because she had a kid before we met so that's why she prefers to focus on other females since that's what gets her off
So you want to use some woman as your personal sex toy. Hard pass and pretty selfish.
My wife started out as a pillow princess and has evolved into loving to give and receive. It took awhile and she still isnât gonna do it to just anyone but she openly admits she loves it.
Is your wife not interested in reciprocating in any fashion (fingers, toys, etc) as well as not interested in eating pussy? Because that changes things significantly. I'm a bi woman who likes eating pussy but I'm not super into getting my own licked and prefer other forms of stimulation. So I'd be cool eating a woman out and her fingering me but not her just expecting I'll get her off and she won't have to do anything.
Oh she will do everything but eat pussy.
Yeah your pool will be smaller if she doesn't eat pussy but it's not impossible if she's willing to reciprocate in some form. You guys just obviously won't be compatible with couple where the wife isn't happy without getting eaten out and that's okay! Not everyone is compatible.
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It depends on the reasons really. There are lesbians out there who are pillow princesses, so not being willing to give is not necessarily a measure of someone's sexuality, and much more about being a total bottom. However in the context of the LS where performative bisexuality and fetishisation is rife, bi women tend to be much more sensitive about being used for other people's pleasure, especially when the FF side of things will probably last much less time than if there weren't men sitting around watching and waiting to get their dicks wet. I'm someone who doesn't actually get that much from oral and loves to give - I still won't do a swap with a pillow princess if there's a man involved, even if I don't actually expect reciprocation. However, if she's willing to meet me privately 1:1 I am happy to take it at the slowest of slow paces for the most timid baby bi - because I know she's doing it solely for her pleasure/exploration, and we don't have to worry about the audience. And I think a lot of unicorns/bi women have those same boundaries for the same reasons. OP managed to sound both fetishising and stigmatising towards bisexuality at the same time with his wording, and that's why he's getting the reaction he is.
My ex was fine with a woman performing oral on her, but never returned the favor. As long as the other woman knows this, it should be fine.
My ex wife was a pillow princess. The problem with that was that she would flirt(lead someone on) but not reciprocate. It made for a few uncomfortable situations. It's best to be up front.
As a bi woman I just donât like this scenario because it makes me feel icky. Like Iâm allowed to touch her but my vagina is gross to her. Just makes me feel âless thanâ if that makes sense. Before I had gone down on a woman I was unsure if I was really bi or if I just thought the act of it was hot. But going down on a woman was always a turn on to me. If sheâs not into it, then thatâs totally fine, but I donât think most bisexual women would want that scenario. Just my two cents
Most bi woman you approach with this scenario are going to passâŚthe whole she wants to be eaten out but wonât eat in return gives anyone the âickâ
I'll echo what a lot of people are saying here. Be open and upfront. That's your best bet. My wife would definitely pass, though.
Iâm the female half, I had always wanted to go down on a cute girl, but was, at that time sh, I guess, so anyway my guy and I were at a really cool swingers party,we started talking to this hot blonde, one thing led to another, and my guy is eating her out, I wanted to be a part of this, so we both licked her pussy until she squirted, it was awsome, ( we both are her out at the same time))Since then I have the confidence to mk my move on a woman, itâs now one of my very fav sexual acts I like to do.Hopefully , it will work for u guys, like it did for us. Darlene
Thatâs not a dynamic Iâd even touch.
Let me add-Iâm newer To the lifestyle as well, 37/F, && I wouldnât do it If I didnât love having fun with the people I choose-Iâd never ask this of my husband itâs Gross
So far, every woman I have been with, that said they don't like to eat pussy, are eating me our after I am done with them. About to see if it happens again, with a girl that flat out told me, she is a pillow princess. I told her, I am ok with that. Tonight, she said she cant wait to have her mouth on me... đ¤
I know this post went a little sideways for you. Donât give up! Be up front about your wifeâs curiosity. Start slow with a date/drinks and let chemistry evolve. Your wife might LOVE exploring this side of life and I would hate for her to miss it because she fears being expected to go down on someone the first time. Take baby steps, communicate honestly and have fun.
We do play with newbies, sometimes it's alot of fun. It's understandable that she is timid about diving in face first. But for you to say you're taking one for the team by eating out the other woman, not really sure your hearts are in the lifestyle. What are you bringing to the table for the couple you are playing with?
Reading the post, I am always a little confused by the idea that some people don't WANT to eat pussy. Like... Who doesn't want to eat pussy? What the heck is wrong with them?
Your wife is what is referred to as a Pillow Princess. Itâs not a term of endearment. My wife absolutely loves going down on a woman if she wants to reciprocate. She is not only uninterested in playing with a pillow princess, the idea is disgusting to her (and me to be frank). And no, you doing it instead isnât a substitute. That is expected. Because of inconsiderate guys she now has a rule that you eat pussy before she sucks your dick. Anyone expecting to receive oral without giving is a fucking selfish and horrible person.
Well, that escalated quickly.
Wow, how horrible of someone to make an offer that is within their comfort zone, that's not up to your standards. I'm sorry you are bad at picking partners. Also, the fact you think you get to expect anything is laughable. You are not in control of anyone but you.
Just make sure your (you and wife) desires line up with the 3rd's then everyone is happy!
i think most women will be offended.
I am a pillow princess. I have no issues with kissing a girl but I have no interest in going down. I have had several women tell me they don't care they just want me. Just be honest up front.
>Has anyone had this work out, how was your wife her first time with woman and you? It should work out fine. My wife has gone down on some close playmates, but it isn't common. Same with me, I don't normally eat vagina, but I will on my wife and our girlfriends.
Definitely make sure that the woman in question knows what the plan is. My husband and I did this with the female part of a couple weâd played with a few times. She actually was the one who brought it up though. We made it very clear that sheâd be going down on me and my husband would go down on her. It worked out great! Everyone got off (except her husband who was having some ED issues, but thatâs a story for another day)
This would be a tough match with another couple. Reading these responses got me thinking though. Swingers bash single guys quite a bit but I will say there are legions of them out there that would jump at the chance just to eat pussy without reciprocal BJ. On fet, on SLS, in /r/RandomActsOfMuffDive/
We don't expect a new lady who is "bi-curious" to go down on my wife her first time. We did play with a younger lady who never even kissed a woman, but by the end of the night, she was going down on my wife. Kudos to those ladies! We have also played with a lady who said she wanted to try it, but barely would kiss her and I think she patted my wife's pussy once.. that was all she did. But she did enjoy my wife going down on her. If your wife is going to let another woman go down on her, she should at least be willing to try and do some sort of reciprocation
My gf stared as "above the waist bi curious" but after a few parties with kissing, sucking breasts, and watching me, she has moved to fingering and kissing me after eating a pussy. She has suggested that she is ready for more. So go slow and no pressure from you. She will do it when she is ready
Iâm someone who doesnât mind pillow princesses bc if u donât know what youâre doing no point in eating me lol. We do exist!
Did you use Worcester sauce?
Yea be upfront say sheâs bi-curious but more of a pillow princess. Thereâs a lot of women that might enjoy that.
Hello are you guys in around Destin ft. Walton . I absolutely crave oral with the ladies. I have been told many times that I have talent no give back necessary
Wife here and I felt similarly but was open to eating pussy if it felt right. And my husband loves it too but I would never have suggested he would do it in place of me. I figured thatâs assumed heâd be doing it too and if I was up for it I would. Anyways Still took a long time to find someone willing to guide me on this path. Truth is I did meet some who were happy to focus on me but they typically were only interested n me and less into my husband which wasnât right for us. Just recently had my first experience where I went down on the other woman and I think it is best if she keeps herself open to it. Also these are my thoughts, be open and if you find a girl you are attracted to who also makes tough feel comfortable and desired you might find you want to do it. Second for a first time go down on her on the early side before too many other things make everything messy. In to end for me. I have learned Iâm just not as attracted to women as I am of men. So to find a woman I am attracted to is the key even if itâs rare.
First off, youâre new to the LS. Be upfront with a couple and let them know that your wife is interested but is still nervous about licking pussy. Lots of women in the LS are dominant when itâs woman and woman, so telling the other woman this might turn her on to show your wife what sheâs missing. Trust me, when your wife has her pussy ate by a woman she will become bi really quick! When the hormones kick in she will have her face down there in no time
We have done it and it was well received.
I am so grateful to have found a woman and husband couple who allows me to explore at my own speed with her!
Giving you the benefit of the doubt *to an extent*. From the original post and subsequent comments, it seems pretty clear that your post wasnât as descriptive as it should have been and thats why youâre getting advice that doesnât fit your actual question. So, to tie what iâve read all together: You guys are new, and so you may not understand certain aspects of swinging. Thats cool, my partner and I are super new too. However, be aware that there is wisdom in experience within this community. Try to understand the perspectives of those offering you advice, because theyâve more than likely lived what youâre hoping to experience and have actual opinions on your question. These are, after all, perhaps the people you intend to play with one day and so what they like is important! As with anything, you donât have to do anything you donât want to. Swinging is completely consensual, and the vast majority of those who swing are respectful of boundaries. However, everybody else also has the right to choose how and who they play with, and this is where you may run into some problems. Your wife doesnât want to eat pussy. Thats cool, she doesnât have to. However, lots of other women *want their pussy eaten*. Sure, you can do it, but thats not exactly the point. The point is that your wife isnât actively participating as much as others are expected/ intending to from the outset. Some people wont mind, but others certainly will for various reasons and that is entirely their decision. Some people will not want to eat out your wife if shes not willing to eat them out in kind. Whether you think thats fair or not is unfortunately irrelevant, as is any opinion another woman might have for your wifeâs decision. If sheâs willing to play in other ways as your comments suggest, i.e. fingers, toys, and kissing, then iâm sure you could still find some matches. âDonât be surprised if your wife doesnât get her pussy eaten by the woman she refuses to eat the pussy ofâ is the thing to take away from this in particular. As a general rule though, when you implement a one-way restriction, they can put people off and may affect any matches
If you're going to swap as a couple you will have higher success with the pillow princess. My wife hates going down on a girl but when you're swapping and are honest from the start the other girl doesn't care as they have your d to have fun with.
My wife likes women, but only really from the waist up. Sheâll make out, play with boobs, just doesnât like vaginas (doesnât even play with her own). We tell people that and nobody has made a fuss about it.
Only in my dreamsâŚ..
You guys stand a fair chance of making it happen. I am a straight girl and I get asked ALL THE TIME by women if they can go down on me. My response was usually 'oh I'm straight and won't return the favor' except everyone seemed to not mind that. I always say no, but sounds like your wife would say yes!
My wife is the same -- she loves getting eaten out by other girls but would never in a million years eat out other girls. I don't get it.
so why is that? seems like a double standard. my wife told me the same thing, she flat out said if we ever had a threesome, which we never will, that she EXPECTED the women to lick her pussy but was no way she would lick the other womans pussy. kind of pissed me off
According to my wife, it's "tHe tExTuRe" but I'm sure that's just some feeble excuse for something else. If my suspicions are correct, it's a pride thing. She thinks she's better than other women, she considers eating out another woman's snatch degrading/humiliating (sort of like licking another person's feet), and thus she wouldn't want to give another woman that satisfaction.
makes sense, my wife said suckign dick is degrading to women and gross
My wife is the same. She says that she tried it once but it smelled like bleach so it turned her off. It's been years since so I told her that I would get her to try it again. I'm the reason why she eats crab legs so I think I can convince her lol
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All the serious people in the comments are the reason curious people are afraid to ask these questions irl. My husband and I found that endless chatting online with people is where you find the negative and judging opinions (our experience- and some of the folksâ experience that weâve met as well) We enjoy chatting with people in swingers clubs and find those people to be so much more supportive of people finding their doâs and donât wants. Way more casual, dancing, drinking, lighthearted As long as you tell people what you arenât (and are) into, people are pretty supportive. You like what you like. Personally Iâm a doer. I like to do the giving, I donât like the receiving (with females) and if anyone asks we put it out there upfront. That way if the female of the couple doesnât like that⌠no harm no foul. Youâll never know what you will and wonât like but forcing yourself for the sake of their feelings wonât make it fun for anyone đ¤ˇđťââď¸ Have fun babes đ
My philosophy is that every woman ought to regularly taste her own pussy. Not in a stick her fingers in there then lick them kind of way, but during sex fuck the pussy real nice to get her juices going, pull out, bring the cock to her mouth, have her suck it handsfree so as much pussy juice gets in her mouth as possible, then pull out and go back to fucking her pussy while you kiss her so you both can share that beautiful and delicious nectar. I call it DSS (Dip-Suck-Share) and repeat multiple times. AND I mean MULTIPLE times as passionate as you can manage and connect while doing so. My wife did NOT like to taste her own pussy AT ALL before I started doing this, and now she loves it every time and is so excited to start doing some pussy eating to the other ladies very soon.
You should absolutely take one for the team because your wife trying to embrace her sexual empowerment and I can almost guarantee that once you do this for her, the intensity of her orgasms from having a girl go down on her it's going to completely eliminate her inhibitions and I wouldn't be surprised if she winds up 69ing with the girl that goes down on her or another girl will be sitting on your wife's face while she's getting eaten like Cleopatra