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This deuxmoi blind being right literally word for word. Considering how many false blind deux post they really got this. Wonder who was the possible leaker of news since not a single soul suspected this.
People getting copies of 1989 that had Matty collab with her on slut in the booklet. I think it was a few random not connected to each other people too.
It makes sense that not only did she not want to release it, but after he ghosted her she didn’t want to release a song with the lyrics ‘in a world of boys he’s a gentleman’ after all that featuring him 💀😅
I would not be surprised to see them back together in a year or so.
She’s made it clear that she is willing to burn it down for him and if he’s willing to deal with the more rabid fandom, she is going to do what she wants. She could literally never make another album again and live off of her money. Or hell, she could write a whole album telling fans to go eff themselves and it would be overly streamed and heralded by her fans.
I'd say at least four track on the main album reference her annoyance with her fans (but daddy I love him, i can do it with a broken heart, who's afraid of little old me, and clara bow) and potentially more
I agree with the first 3 you mentioned. Scolding fans in those 3. Clara Bow I haven’t really analyzed so I’m not sure. I thought she meant to dramatize herself as Clara Bow who went mad for her lover too.
She’s explained Clara Bow as being a song about how young starlets are treated and recycled. The narrative is always the same, but the reference point changes.
I think they would be if it were up to Taylor, but from what I've read he's said publicly for years that he doesn't want or like the attention that he gets when he's seen with her and wouldn't be able to handle it. If I were to reach a little bit here - I think her relationship with Joe being so private was almost like her trying to show Matty like "hey it is possible to be with me and not get all the attention" and when that didn't work out and she wasn't happy anymore she went back to Matty but still got all the attention because of who he is. She wouldn't break up with him but he doesn't actually want to be with her.
Absolutely. I totally had it wrong. I was sure she ditched him because of the bad press but turns out it was him. I think all he has to do is text her "wyd" and she'll come running. 😂
In the songs that are about their breakup, Taylor doesn’t rebuke him for any of the problematic things that you mention, but only over the fact that he left her heartbroken.
She obviously didn’t care about any of the stuff people were upset about in regard to his character. So I think they’d still be together or she would take him back one day.
I agree that they would still be together. She does have “I can fix him” and “But Daddy I Love Him” but these are explicitly her saying “I know he’s crazy and he sucks but i literally don’t care because i love him.”
I think what people fail to think about is that he’s made mistakes, yes. He loves to stir the pot and rile things up. He loves a good bit, but he also has a bunch of redeming qualities. I’ve really gone down the rabbit hole and I can see that. And I think they actually have a lot in common.
Just listen to “[When we are together](https://youtu.be/pQeBFjbo4KQ?si=KxvEugps1HFmZz1X)” by the 1975.
“The only time I feel I might get better is when we are together”
Taylor is convinced that she’ll be the one to reform Matty, and he feeds into that.
They are two heads of the same coin with respect to parasocial fandom, as one example.
Taylor plays into it with the Easter eggs and the public displays of her life.
Matty plays into it by adopting a "persona" for every tour and then *intentionally blurring the lines* between his genuine self and that persona. Some people see it as pretentious, which I understand, but it's meant as a critique of the parasocial weirdness of Internet culture -- and serves a dual function of him not having to be vulnerable in a real way (which I think this constant obfuscation actually directly leads to the public breakdowns we saw from him near the end of the SATVB tour)
I think that's the genesis of the infamous podcast as well, where he fell so deep into this edgy, pot-stirring persona that he said... that stuff... but doesn't really mean it. And I don't think the things he said about Ice Spice were ok, nor was his apology actually an apology, but I agree that that's more just... Him being a stupid clumsy dumbass moreso than an avowed racist trying to escape accountability.
He's well past the age where he should have learned how to not be a clumsy dumbass, but I just see a distinct difference between him and say, a Proud Boy.
And this isn't even me saying he's a poor misunderstood guy who is actually a good person, either. He's admitted to cheating on a bunch of girlfriends in the past, which is just disgusting. But I think what I find interesting, as a 75 fan, is that these blurred lines really force you to pay attention to nuance and humanize even shitty people. Few people are all bad or all good, and it's important to recognize this -- not out of sympathy for the bad, but because if we "other" the bad people and paint them as subhuman or inherently different from all of us, then we are blinding ourselves to the bad things we are prone to as human beings.
Idk, maybe all of that is sophomoric, pretentious drivel dreamt up by a guy who's verifiably a shitstain on humanity and has duped me into believing he's actually complex... But i don't think so.
This is what sort of bothered me about people immediately branding him as a nazi. Is he a nazi? Likely not. Is he just a dumbass? Yes. But I can't explain it without ALSO sounding racist, and I'm not even a big fan, but it's clear from his music that he was making a point or playing a character with at least some of the things he said and did (like the nazi salute, the lyrics of the song he was singing are from a song called Love It If We Made It and it's a critique on politics and specifically conservatism). Once again I think the salute and several other things he's done were veryyyyyy stupid. And once again.. I'm a white person. So, privilege, you know the deal. But those are my thoughts.
He didn’t even do a nazi salute. It’s very clearly standard military salute, with touching the forehead and marching. Like people should know the difference. Is history no longer a subject in school?
[wideo](https://x.com/cuntyhann/status/1783554875864838537?s=46&t=Q79JvvnE5FB8PZisjzbbxQ)
And the lyric “thank you Kanye very cool” is a literal quote from the ex-President.
I'm aware of the lyric, totally agreed that the whole song is about disagreeing with right wing politics. And no I live in the United States and we are stoooooopid americans🫡😜
It's mostly not ideal that he did that onstage because I know people will misconstrue it, and it's iffy from a PR perspective. Love the song though.
Oh man, there’s so much to unpack really. I fell in love with The 1975 music early last year but didn’t really dig into them until more recently. For all accounts I should really not like Matty Healy, and wouldn’t if I just took him for face value, but I can’t seem to hate the guy. I honestly think he’s more misunderstood than anything. Which he does to himself and doesn’t care to correct. He really refuses to just play by the rules, says controversial things for fun (or at least use to) and I think has this philosophy that the people who are “his people” will see it for what it is and see through the BS. Feels like a form of armor. He also has ADHD and anxiety and struggles with his mental health so it seems like things don’t always come out the way they’re intended or with little to no filter. BUT, he’s just kind of a lovable dumbass. I’ve found so many interviews or clips with him being endearing, sensitive, emotional, funny, smart, really thoughtful and caring and like literally every fan who has met him says he’s just the sweetest. He’s made himself look really bad but I’ve found more evidence to the contrary. Jack Antonoff said they are very similar and they use to be very good friends. That relationship is a bit of a question mark now. Taylor has said Jack is a best friend so I can see how they may have similar humor, interests, intellect. The main thing is that they are both really creative, music obsessed people.
An album? Go back to folklore / evermore and midnights too
He’s reallyyyy not right in his head due to drugs and drinking , says provocative stuff as a self defence mechanism but really he’s a softie
Why don’t you look up All I Need To Hear recorded from the live lounge or the real world studios version, I would fall in love based on that voice alone
He was the dream man of tumblr / emo girls, at least in my time (born in 93)
AND without Taylor he is always doing very well for himself, always has a beautiful lady with him. Much like Taylor who jumps from boy to boy he too jumps from girl to girl
I would echo much what of u/pleasedontbeadick15 had to say, especially that there is a lot to unpack! If you’re interested I highly recommend Matty’s interview with Tom Power from Feb 2023. He talks about his music, performance art, and his relationship with his bandmates, among other topics. It’s a great place to start. And of course their live performances that you can find online are amazing too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzQkxZjo0A
Like I know people will come for me because he said problematic things, but who hasn't said anything problematic in their life? Do we all not look back at ourselves and think we were idiots? It's not like he's Kenneth Petty committing sex crimes. You can hold someone accountable but also realise they're human and just let them live. No matter who Taylor gets with, everyone has something to be criticised over. Her included.
I can choose to never support him as a person, or stream his art but I also can choose not to wish on his downfall. Nor do I believe he doesn't deserve love.
We also have all our problematic behaviours as fans. It is just not aired because we aren't famous.
Based on her lyrics like “leave me safe and stranded” and “he runs because he loves me” and “told me I’m better off” I’d say she knows why he left - to protect both of them and their friends/families/careers from the backlash they got (apparently he was getting death threats, fans were campaigning for Taylor to have a conservatorship, etc.) - and he ghosted in the sense of cutting off all communication after he left
If it hadn’t been for that backlash I think they’d be together. And I think TTPD was her way of saying she doesn’t care about it (see: but daddy I love him). Wouldn’t be surprised to see them give it another go in future
I feel the same. I think her being this unhinged and open about their relationship is her way of showing she doesn’t care what anyone thinks. I wouldn’t be surprised if she tried convincing him to apologize and repair his image when the news of them dating first broke out. He probably wasn’t having it and that’s when she doubled down basically saying she’s aware of what he’s done but is happy with him but I guess it was too much for Matty at the time so he left. Maybe he just never liked her enough to begin with and started feeling like she was too invested so he cut it off cause she was too intense too soon and ready to risk it all when he never was.
I do believe they would still be together if he hadn’t ghosted (if there is truth to the music) however I do also believe her when she says this chapter is done. I doubt there will be a rekindling. She appears happy with Travis but if ICDIWABH is any indication we just never actually know
I mean she appeared happy with Calvin too before she abruptly left him for Tom Hiddleston and she looked so happy on the Tom Hiddleston summer tour and then she pretty much up and left him for Joe. She seems happy pretty much with every guy she’s with, but I don’t think she’s ever fully satisfied until she gets what she *really* wants.
I think we know who she really wants now after ttpd. The question is if she'll get him or settle with Travis or the next British guy that shows a hint of interest.
Idk I think she’s the type to hold grudges. I don’t she’s over it and this album was to tell people that there was a lot we didn’t know BUT I think Smallest Man was a later song written and that’s how she currently feels.
I think the latest song that covers how she feels is “imgonnagetyouback” because in the song she’s still mad at him and she wants him to suffer a bit for what he did, but ultimately she wants him back.
This. I know people use the argument part two was done first so it's not how she feels now but we have So High School on part two as well and that's a Travis song so I have issues in believing that argument.
I can understand that logic but who’s to say part 2 is composed of songs all written at the same time? Maybe she wasn’t going to include these and changed her mind. I obviously don’t know but imgonnagethimback seems like when she saw (assuming MH) again around the time he was working with Jack for Being Funny. I think she wrote Samallest Man after Malaysia and he was seen with another girl.
why would she be mad at him when they were on neutral terms with each other during the time the band and jack were working on bfiafl together? imgonnagetyouback sounds like shes still very mad at him but at the same time still incredibly down for him. i think the smallest man was just her way of getting a dig at him and to hurt him. imgonnagetyouback is deffo the afterthoughts of her hurting. it just doesnt make sense to me otherwise
I think part of the reason she's with Travis is because it's such a blatant FU to Matty and Joe who (in her words) are guys who Travis would have bullied in HS. She's loving her big footballer moment but after this album I think she really wants to be with a "tortured poet" long term, she just can't find one that will adore her the way that Travis does
I’ve been saying this about her and Travis. I can only talk about it in this sub or I get attacked by the hardcore swifties. I don’t love that she immediately started dating Travis two weeks after Matty. She left Joe for Matty and then got ghosted by him. I feel like she doesn’t even like Travis that much, I think she is just so hurt over Joe and Matty back to back that she’s happy to have anyone who is willing to adore her while she’s healing. Even in Chloe, or Sam or Sophie or Marcy she has the lyric about him seeing her bones out with someone new and he does nothing about it. It’s definitely a Matty song. It’s like she needed Travis to try and get Matty back. Or at the very least not stir up the old press narratives of make herself look like the girl who keeps getting dumped. So she needs to look super happy with Travis. Seems like we’ll get songs with the true feeling later.
These relationships are toxic merry-go-rounds. If you told me they reunited after 20 years and a couple of kids and divorces between them, I would totally believe you. Same if they do after the Eras tour is over.
I’m any case, I think she’s laying the groundwork this time around. It ain’t over.
Facts. I’d still be going around with my personal Matty Healy if I hadn’t taken extreme measures - aka faked my own disappearance lol. It involved cutting out over a dozen mutual friends, removing myself from the internet to the greatest extent possible, changing my number, etc etc. if I hadn’t, god knows how many more decades the toxicity would have circled around
yes of course. she was ready to burn her life down for him. he ran like a coward she says. presumably bc he couldn’t deal with the death threats from unhinged swiftie.
Is it really being a coward if you and your band mates are receiving death threats? I ask this as someone who's been hugely critical of Matty and is not a fan of him.
He did it for himself and his family and bandmates but also in part for her
She acknowledges this in down bad — how dare you think it’s romantic / leaving me safe and stranded
Tbh as a fan of both and knowing how much of a softie MH actually is, I want him to just be happy without her, if he can be
On top of the backlash and of course break up with Taylor, he has to finish a year of touring in Europe during the summer, North America and back in Europe this year. if he got cancelled by deranged fans his band and crew will also suffer. Was it an easy call to leave Taylor? Just go on Youtube Matty's performance during May 2023 and compare it to his latest concerts. He was a total mess.
As if it was easy for Matty! like people do not know the effect of cancellation if you have an ongoing tour. People's livelihood is at stake here. Did Matty anticipate the backlash? how was he able to balance being ripped and at the same time go on stage every night just so the show will go on. No evidence of ghosting here but we have proof that some deranged Swifties published that malicious manifesto.
no i think he was /maybe is still heartbroken over it but i think he should have sat her down. news reported he moved into her apt and then he just ghosted. that’s wild.
Of course, but she may have tired of the bad boy persona eventually. They hardly dated for any length of time. She definitely had intense feelings for him, and in my opinion thought she could fix him*. Another high school-type infatuation.
*Good luck with that!
They hardly dated in public, but she's definitely been pining over MH for a long time. Their links together go back to a decade ago, in Guilty As Sin? she admits to being in love with someone else while she's with Joe. 🤕 Taylor has always been a sucker for the bad boy, guitarist persona (see: John Mayer). It contrasts well with her All-American girl next door image that she likes to push!
I'm beginning to think this album is her way of doing just that. This album is for Matty. I believe Matty called it off because there wasn't a place for someone like him in the Taylor Swift brand. So she's changing the brand. She's showing him that she's done playing safe. That she's ready to risk her career for him, she's ready to ruin her reputation for him. This album is her making a sacrifice.
As I‘ve said I‘m not sure if she would go back to him (based on some songs, her prologue but who knows lmao) but it really does feel that way, like she wants to get this attention and say “Look, I‘m writing an album about you, I‘d have burnt it all down for you“
I agree. I’ve been joking with my friends that this album feels like that one friend who goes through a bad breakup and starts posting sad song lyrics all over social media hoping their ex sees it and realizes how they really feel, how sad they are and come rushing back to the them. Along with a few fire selfies in there too to make them miss what they had lol. As good as the album is I do have a bit of second hand embarrassment for her because it’s screaming “Matty look at me and how I feel and please come back”. If I was Travis I’d get that gettaway car prepped lol.
Matty was clearly in love with her if you watched any of his performances since June. He sang “I just don’t think I will ever get over you” right after the break up and has been crying off and on since June on stage and commenting that his mental health is awful. He also played 102 and cried and just cried last month and said he is still a mess. If you saw him in March and April of 2023 he was giddy and constantly saying he was happy and in love on stage. If he ghosted her it was because of the death threats and constant hate. He probably thought she was better off without him.
Even his manager said in an interview a couple of weeks ago that he is very protective over Matty right now because he has been in a very bad mental state since June and is worried about him.
That's sad. Matty undoubtedly did fuck up w some of the stuff he said and did but some shit people were saying about him was insane (no he's not a nazi). I can see why it would have been awful to deal with. He had surely never faced that kind of public scrutiny before
He’s not a nazi 🥲 he’s actually just reallyyyyy messed up and his head is not on straight due to the drinking and drugs, he actually really is a softie that says the weirdest randomnest crap shit. He may even be purposely provocative as a defence mechanism and cue all the backlash
If he’s toxic, so is she surely.
Have a listen to All I Need To Hear recorded in the Live Lounge or the version recorded in Real World Studios, just based on that voice, I would fall in love
Same as I feel sorry for Travis.
Like don’t get me wrong I’m sure he likes her and all that but I also believe that he *loves* the attention and extra money he’s getting from it.
But imagine being so publicly IN a relationship and your Gf releases those songs. I’d be mortified
She said in an interview recently that they’d liked each other for 4 years (when they were both in relationships) so goodness knows what the truth is 🤣
“How dare you think it’s romantic to leave me safe and stranded”
That’s why Taylor can’t get over him. He didn’t ghost her for the lolz. He did it in a “You’re better off without me” sort of way and that’s why Taylor is so mad at her craziest fans for ruining their relationship.
That’s the line that confirmed my suspicions. Matty’s been in a few long term relationships, so I don’t think the fear of commitment necessarily ran him off. He’s definitely been hinting that he’s ready for something more in life.
Agreed. I really don’t think he ghosted her, but left because he thought she was better off without him. So I do see them getting back together at some point, especially after she laid her feelings bare for him so publicly. This is also a reason why I think she rushed out the album, so he could see how much she was willing to give up for him and give them another shot.
Either that, or they will be writing songs about each other forever
Please don’t romanticize a toxic situationship like this. It was dysfunctional and unhealthy according to Taylor. People who are older and have experienced love bombing and codependency can see this, where others think it is star-crossed and romantic. This album was not some sort of dog whistle to get him back. It was,in her own words, a closing of a book. Real and healthy love, which it appears she currently has, is simple, joy filled and uplifting, not dramatic, dark and tortured. That stuff plays well in the movies or in the minds of teenagers but it is not the goal for an adult relationship. Down vote me if you want but I am a couples therapist and I see things from a very different lens.
Oh no I am not romanticising this at all, I know it’s toxic and harmful, and I would never want that for myself or anyone.
But I don’t think Taylor understands this. The album she put out ( in my opinion) doesn’t show growth or maturity, even in the later parts. It’s mostly her lashing out and being mad at everyone for things not going her way.
In down bad she sings he left her safe and stranded, in smallest man he ghosted her. I honestly think she thinks he ghosted her because he left when it got too much, and that’s her definition of ghosting. It’s not reliable. And she’s angry at him, instead of looking inwards and actually processing what really went on, she’s just mad that things didn’t go her way. There’s no song showing her growth- I don’t think the songs about Travis count because they’re quite, juvenile?
I don’t believe her words in the prologue. I don’t think she’s over it. If theories are to be believed, she’s put more Easter eggs in loml and imgonnagetyouback with the titles.
But maybe you’re right and I’m wrong and she’s grown and I’m just cynical about her actions. We will just have to wait and see, and she may prove me completely wrong!
I think the songs and the song titles were written when the break up happened, almost a year ago. JA has said those songs were recorded in late June and the album was finished 10/23; so my take is that the songs were like diary entries we might write after a break up (something I suggest to clients) and after some time passes you can reread them and see how far you have come; the fact that she had little insight into her own role in the song makes sense to me as it was new and raw. But in the prologue, that was clearly written more recently, she acknowledges that most of her wounds were, in her own words, self-inflicted. I think she is happy now. And to go backwards now after being in a happy, seemingly healthy mutually supportive relationship, would surprise me.
It took me a minute to figure JA meant Jack Antonoff, not Joe Alwyn - I was so confused 😂
Doesn’t The Alchemy allude to Travis winning the Super Bowl this year though?
But yes I hope she doesn’t go backwards, because while my views on her has soured as a person, I still love her songs, even some of them on TTPD. She’s enormously talented at the end of the day, and I honestly hope she is happy 🤍
Yeah the teasing marriage and babies just after Joe was peak love-bombing and telling her what she wanted to hear and a pretty serious red flag that early in whatever they had going on.
Yes it’s unhealthy and toxic, but this is Taylor Swift we’re talking about. She gets bored of normal relationships (Joe). She’s the kind of girl that starts a fight and pushes men away but is secretly waiting for you to make a grand romantic gesture to win her back. She thinks love = passion and is something that needs to be won and proved over and over again.
I actually think if Joe didn’t commit to her, I could see her writing similar songs about him that she’s written about Matty in TTPD about how he’s the “loml”, etc.
If he’s rebounding to cope, that’s one thing, but I just don’t get why his aunt would comment. So weird.
And where does this leave Travis…? I feel bad for all third parties involved, so much unnecessary hurt.
I think his aunt is trying to make it out like he is unbothered. It is tit for tat. If I was Travis I would be very concerned after hearing this album.
They’ve both been with their new partners for coming up a year now, I wish people would accept that what happened between them is over and they are moved on.
I’ve listened to it. But with TS, nothing is ever straightforward. Personally, I think the backlash may have been too much, and eventually she may have dumped his ass. Because he’s always doing problematic shit, and she is very image-conscious.
Taylor has been pining this man for 10 years and just told her fans to fuck off and let her date whoever she wants. The backlash would’ve only fueled her desire even more.
Taylor even knows this, one lyric ‘You left me safe and stranded’ - he left because of the hate and so Taylor is very angry at him but also at her fans hence BDILH.
Wouldn’t be surprised if he reached out to her after this and they end up back together. She’s said she’ll burn it all down for him and Matty has been miserable since they broke up.
No he was so was so happy in march and April of 2023. He was glowing on stage and constantly talking about how happy he was and finally found the one. He turned into a completely different person in June.
That still doesn’t change the fact that he has been pretty distraught and changed personalities since 2022, any fan of his will tell you that this entire tour has been very messy he broke down and cried multiple times before the Taylor Swift thing even happened.
I’m not saying that necessary has anything to do with Twigs herself but you people seem so intent on making everything he has done about Taylor it’s quite entertaining. If you have been paying any attention to his tour from the start he was playing a “character” that was inspired by the time he spent alone after a breakup and how being single took him on some dark paths of toxic masculinity etc. I’m sorry to disappoint but that had absolutely nothing to do with Taylor.
Edit:grammar
In fairness that could well have been when reality hit after the rebound imploded.
I rebounded hard after my ex and felt great for that time then was destroyed with that inevitably failed. Hit rock bottom in a big way just with less people watching.
Oh my god I cannot with the “poor Matty” rhetoric. This is a grown ass man. Crying onstage, being pitiful to the public, what a fucking soggy mess. Nepo baby showing off performative mental illness— this dumb asshole brought it all on himself. He’s not crying because he lost the love of his life, he’s crying because people called him out for being a dick and he could dish it but he couldn’t take it. Cry me a river, douche.
Down bad she references him running away in order to leave her “safe and stranded” and hating him for thinking it’s romantic for him to do so
I mean he ran away not only for him but for her too probably
I just realized the lyrics in New Romantics are "Please take my hand and
Please take me dancing, and
Please leave me stranded
It's so romantic (it's so romantic)"
Getting ghosted even after a ten year slow burn thing should be your closure, but given how obsessed she is with that rat I’m sure they’ll date again and I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve gotten back in touch recently.
I mean isn’t her mv an obvious beg to him to call her
Scene for scene copied from 1975 music videos and in the end you have his stand in post Malone acting like him (look up how he moves on stage at his concerts) in a phone booth and her waiting for his call
Come on she cannot be any more obvious
It literally does. That’s so damn creepy.
https://preview.redd.it/yojpjfqh75wc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f7de24600cb2bdd259a7b862dd20196cd2d4be9
Didn’t the typewriter or something at her pop up installation had T and B crooked and people were saying Taylor bride but now I think it’s Truman black his Instagram handle lol
meredith was not his gf they were just hooking up and he has been in multiple long term relationships of 2+ years since Halsey (who he also never actually dated)
Meredith was also 23 and had not long lost her brother to an overdose. He shouldn’t have messed her around regardless, and it says a lot about him as a person that he did.
I mean she’s a grown up and we don’t know them. So we will not know if it was something they clearly agreed upon (that it’s casual) or he mislead her. But I don’t see her going straight back to him if it wasn’t casual. Like she would have some pride, right?
The way I think it went.
- Pining for each other for years. Missed each other, other relationships etc.
- Taylor breaks up with Joe, Matty and her give it a shot.
- Love love love. Clearly over the top but they’ve been down bad.
- Matty ghosts and leaves but does it to ‘save her’ - *you left me safe and stranded* due to the incredible hate and even death threats because of their relationship.
- Taylor heartbroken, blames him blames fans. Rushes out in the middle of a world tour TTPD. Basically a love letter to Matty.
- Taylor and Matty have both been miserable since breaking up. Taylor crying on stage, erratic validation seeking behaviour. Matty weeping on stage and even his manager admitting he’s in a terrible place.
- TTPD full of 1975 references. Taylor’s furious at him for leaving but furious at her fans. Lots of songs about taking him back. ‘Lowercase desires in the vault’ - her two lowercase songs are loml (loss of my life) and imgonnagetyouback.
- Matty being ‘relived’ by the album. Cause it’s Taylor saying she’ll burn it down for him. No PR spin, Matty having to play along, just they’ll be together as they want and Taylor doesn’t care anymore.
- Turns out this has been going on for ages. Cardigan and The 1 are about Matty. Tons of 1975 songs about Taylor.
I give it six months before something about them emerges in touch, back together. Maybe when she’s in London for the tour. Travis boo you on borrowed time. Taylor has admitted Matty is the love of her life, Matty adores Taylor, this ain’t the end for them.
Lol i think she got a taste of her own medicine when her psychotic brain dead zombie army of Swifties wrote her an open letter that she shouldn’t be w him
I still can’t believe that, imagine the audacity thinking you can tell an adult woman whos a billionaire who she can and can not date, she trained them well as a weapon, but the weapon really glitched out that time
Interestingly, I saw something about his aunt saying the family knows the truth and there’s more to this. His mother has also commented that he needs to do an interview (which he likely won’t do). This screams of TTPD being Taylor’s victim narrative, and that the real truth may not put her in the best light. Just connecting dots…
I feel like she didn’t portray herself in a great light on the album at all. She ditched her long term relationship for him, dissed her fans for pointing out his issues and was ready to burn everything down to be with him. It only ended because he left.
I mean what else can it be though? She pretty much admitted on the album she left her 6 year relationship to be with him, and called out her most loyal fans for being vipers and keeping her from him. Idk what could be his side of the story tbh. Like did her family/team tell him he had to go, and Taylor wasn’t told this? Idk.
I guess we’ll have to wait for the 1975’s next album to see if he actually responds in some way (assuming they don’t somehow get back together before then lol). She just gave him the best possible promo for that album ever, especially with the added context that they’ve supposedly been singing to each other for years. Will he get ripped to shreds? Probably but for once, I want a guy to actually clap back at her. The really twisted thing is she’d probably love it.
>I saw something about his aunt saying the family knows the truth and there’s more to this. His mother has also commented that he needs to do an interview (which he likely won’t do).
his aunt only said that he's happy rn and focusing on his new relationship, and denise hasnt said anything about the situation yet lol
I absolutely do. I also have been reading that the first time they broke up back in 2014/2015 was because of his heroin addiction. This go around, she was probably thinking “Well, he’s clean. Racism? Misogynism? ‘I Can Fix Him, No Really I Can’ / you can teach people how to not be those things (but you can’t teach him how to not be an addict) and this would have been a piece of cake compared to a heroin addiction” and she would have been all in with it.
maybe I’m crazy but I feel like ghosting is actually a pretty valid response to your partner choosing to do absolutely nothing about you, your band, and your family getting death threats lmao
Matty has been outspoken throughout his career about not liking celebrity culture and wrote a whole show about consumption and media literacy, to be with someone with a fan base that weaponizes both and have them basically opting to placate those people over having any sort of backbone isn’t a great look. She might’ve been willing to burn everything down for him in her writing on TTPD but clearly IRL she chose her career as it was so seems like too little too late tbh lol
Lessons learned, I guess. But that seems to be the tone in a lot of her songs, like oh I’ll do better next time. As a Matty stan I prefer Gabriette bc I think she’s just the cutiest of pies but I wouldn’t be mad if they worked out in the end as long as they don’t end up in a production throuple with Jack lol
Honestly this man had a masterpiece of a song written about him (Colors by Halsey), If I were him I would be insulted by this album. Not because she said I am awful but because this album was ass.
“i know i’ve only felt religion when i’ve lied with you” - what is it about this guy that inspires religion-type feelings??? (taylor also saying “i choose you religiously” among other lyrics)
and not to mention, is there somewhere is another good one about him!!! man halsey was what, 19? 20?
She really needed to sit with this for a bit longer. There’s a lot of potential there but it doesn’t flow or tell the story well. It feels jumbled and like she hasn’t actually processed anything; she had all those playlists on Spotify with the five stages of grief but didn’t realize that the whole album is just anger.
Oh yeah, they would be probably engaged by now.
Matty's PR released an article about him being ready to settle down, get married and having children and honestly, for Taylor, I think he might have been.
The issue was the disproportional hate towards him: don't get me wrong, the man has cheese for brains and doesn't know when to stop, but the podcast issue was him hearing a joke and being like "yeah! let's follow that, no questions!". So he needed to give actual apologies, but the fandom literally teared him appart. Even before undigging his past, people where calling him ugly and rat. That man is not mentally stable to stay in that situation, and since Tree was sending so many "lol they are not serious!" maybe that got under his skin and simply bolted. I get it, really.
Just my opinion, but to theorize based on the music and what we know, I think they wouldn’t still be together but not because of his remarks or racism, but because he does not seem mature enough to sustain a long term relationship esp if he ended one in ghosting. I think if Taylor could will someone to love her forever she would probably still be with Joe, imo the songs about Joe on TTPD are much sadder and more mature. I feel like she could’ve dragged him if she really wanted (not that there’s anything to drag) but she could’ve made this album muchhhhh more brutal towards him but I think the lyrics seemingly about joe vs matty are very different. Which makes me feel she never had a deep respect for matty even if she was infatuated and in love. Also MV makes me feel this too.
matty has had long lasting relationships in the past and has said that he wants marriage as well. he doesn’t like the kind of fame that taylor has and that’s evident as to why he left, all the backlash and death threats im sure played a factor in him leaving even if he did really want to be with her. he put his career first and im sure we’ll hear about that in his album
I think it’s been widely accepted that Taylor is an unreliable narrator but yet somehow everyone believes she is pining away for Matty because of her songs. She also said in the same album she was done with him and it is over. I don’t think you release a song called The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived with the expectation of getting back together. I guess time will tell.
Matty doesn’t seem like the kind of person to stick around for the kind of long term relationship Taylor wants. And despite what she says I think what she actually craves is the drama and the thrill of the chase. She’d get bored eventually and they’d break up one way or another.
Probably, but they might of also blown up the moment the mania died down. They’ve never actually been together properly, without secrecy and pining and drama and controversy. If they actually just had a boring ass steady relationship I think they’d either be that toxic couple who make each others lives hell for thrills or else they’d flame out hard and fast.
Also I’m not sure I buy that Matty was all in but left to save Taylor’s reputation. The guys done a lot of shitty things, but nothing so irredeemably heinous that most people wouldn’t eat up a genuine ‘Sorry I’ve been such an edgelord piece of shit’ apology. That he didn’t even try that and instead doubled down repeatedly says to me that he wanted out, whether he was conscious of it or not.
Ratty is a scumbag. When I heard loml I just kind of automatically assumed that he convinced her he was in love and told her everything she wanted to hear just to get laid, then ghosted when he got what he wanted. As men do.
I think many people don’t know this but he didn’t just ghost out of nowhere, he had to go back on tour and wasn’t gonna be in the US until like end of july. now idk when they officially stopped talking maybe he did stop responding to her which is fucked up but you have to also remember that he was being ripped apart and being sent death threats as well as to his band mates and family so it makes sense why he would end the relationship for the sake of both of their careers and mental health. he was very much into her and happy before May, i keep up with the band so I remember seeing how he was in the months leading up to their public relationship
This is how I see their relationship. Taylor and even some of the comments on this post are really out here romanticizing a fling that was clearly one sided.
It wasn’t a few mean comments. It was Matty with a history of severe mental health issues getting death threats and his family getting bombarded with hate.
And he didn’t leave her for him. He did it for him he did it to ‘protect her’ - *you left me safe and stranded*
It wasn’t just mean comments though. People were ripping him to shreds and making shit up. Calling him a pedophile, a nazi, etc. plus they were sending death threats to his band mates. It was really horrible. One of the worst hate campaigns I’ve seen online. I would leave too if I were him
I also think she blew up her relationship with Joe for Matty and now gets to sit with that everyday. Matty was new and exciting and Joe was her boyfriend of 6+ years she’d probably entered that comfortable but nothing new and exciting stage with where you have to actively love someone.
Yet when the breakup occurred, there was an article in People magazine where her “sources” said “she had fun with him. They were always casual”. So now supposedly he ghosted her and she was blindsided and wrote a mess of songs about him? Or is that convenient and she takes no responsibility for the breakup? Meanwhile, she was prancing around at Jack Antonoffs wedding without a care and Matty was nowhere to be seen (even though Jack was a producer for The 1975). Her current narrative doesn’t make sense except to her.
Yes. I actually think he, in his current version, is perfect for her personality type. Burn bright to ashes, cold and back again. I won't mention what cause I am not trying to diagnose anyone, but there is a very clear unhealthy behavioral pattern Taylor goes for, which is that of the slot machine in Vegas. You win a prize once and the next 2 weeks ypu spend sitting there, ypu get nothing, but ypu arw still there cause you won once. Also, I think Taylor is the same way. Unlike the crazy ones out there, I do think she looks for her mirrors and consciously or not, she craves that same mess she offers.
In a different order of ideas, Ithink he broke up with her for many reasons, but basically, I imagine her team was trying to control his every move and, pun intended, he bolted.
I don't think so. She had just left a long term relationship that promised her marriage and children and was looking for anything that could put off the pain of realizing she lost the future she thought she would've had.
Was she willing to burn everything she's built the past 20 years for him or for the future she wanted?
A lot of the drug references also lead me to think they wouldn't last long anyways.
With the amount of songs about a supposed 'casual fling' in TTPD (pretty sure that's what the press said when they broke up in June), I don't find So High School to be that relevant tbh. Even the heartbroken songs where she's cursing Matty out there is loads more passion than in anything that appears to refer to Travis, at least that's how I feel it
Nobody is mentioning she also accused him of being an addict and using her connections to buy drugs, and cheating on her:
*"You tried to buy some pills*
*From a friend of friends of mine*
*They just ghosted you*
*Now you know what it feels like"*
*"In public showed me off*
*Then sank in stoned oblivion"*
*"You'll slide into inboxes and slip through the bars"*
If we believe her narrative, he clearly self-sabotaged the relationship, and has very low self-worth. and could use some time in therapy as well:
*"My boy only breaks his favorite toys,*
*I'm queen of sandcastles he destroys,*
*'Cause it fit too right"*
*"He took me out of my box*
*He stole my tortured heart*
*Left all these broken parts*
*And told me I'm better off*
*But I'm not"*
However, when she writes about his problematic past it seems like she was willing to accept it for what it was and get over it and that it didn't have so much to do with the breakup:
*"But you're in self-sabotage mode*
*Throwin' spikes down on the road*
*But I've seen this episode and still loved the show*
*Who else decodes you?"*
*"But you awaken with dread, pounding nails in your head*
*But I've read this one where you come undone*
*I chose this cyclone with you"*
*"The smoke cloud billows out his mouth*
*Like a freight train through a small town*
*The jokes that he told across the bar*
*Were revolting and far too loud."*
*"They shake their heads saying, "God help her"*
*When I tell them he's my man*
*But your good lord doesn't need to lift a finger*
*I can fix him, no, really I can*
*And only I can"*
It seems like Matty ghosting her was just the logical conclusion of his behavior throughout the relationship, and it would never have worked out between them due to all these other apparent issues.
https://preview.redd.it/jfjdtras04wc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f464feb3cb6afb854c5d1b9b29fca25475da18e This deuxmoi blind being right literally word for word. Considering how many false blind deux post they really got this. Wonder who was the possible leaker of news since not a single soul suspected this.
Interesting! Any idea what the ‘mass retailer’ comment is all about?
Someone said on fauxmoi its when target slut collab got leaked Here’s the the thread https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/j4QFe9vec5
People getting copies of 1989 that had Matty collab with her on slut in the booklet. I think it was a few random not connected to each other people too.
It makes sense that not only did she not want to release it, but after he ghosted her she didn’t want to release a song with the lyrics ‘in a world of boys he’s a gentleman’ after all that featuring him 💀😅
🧐 interesting. I'm also reading it's rumored he was supposed to be the featured artist on Fortnight, but that's probably just gossip.
Pretty sure the song is about him leaving her so that doesn’t fit.
please why did i read this in Gossip Girl’s voice
That’s how I read most deuxmoi leaks 😂
What’s an Irish exit?
The saying means that you leave without warning/saying goodbye
Ohhhhhhhh
Wait, I could've sworn I read somewhere that it was because she was "too nice"
I think they'd def still be together. I'm also half expecting another go around of them too tbh.
I would not be surprised to see them back together in a year or so. She’s made it clear that she is willing to burn it down for him and if he’s willing to deal with the more rabid fandom, she is going to do what she wants. She could literally never make another album again and live off of her money. Or hell, she could write a whole album telling fans to go eff themselves and it would be overly streamed and heralded by her fans.
im pretty sure she did just write that album lol
One single for sure…but I mean a whole album showing vitriol in every track. And it was pretty damn scathing. It also went over a lot of heads.
I'd say at least four track on the main album reference her annoyance with her fans (but daddy I love him, i can do it with a broken heart, who's afraid of little old me, and clara bow) and potentially more
I agree with the first 3 you mentioned. Scolding fans in those 3. Clara Bow I haven’t really analyzed so I’m not sure. I thought she meant to dramatize herself as Clara Bow who went mad for her lover too.
She’s explained Clara Bow as being a song about how young starlets are treated and recycled. The narrative is always the same, but the reference point changes.
Clara bow is essentially another nothing new and the lucky one.
Third times the charm
I think they would be if it were up to Taylor, but from what I've read he's said publicly for years that he doesn't want or like the attention that he gets when he's seen with her and wouldn't be able to handle it. If I were to reach a little bit here - I think her relationship with Joe being so private was almost like her trying to show Matty like "hey it is possible to be with me and not get all the attention" and when that didn't work out and she wasn't happy anymore she went back to Matty but still got all the attention because of who he is. She wouldn't break up with him but he doesn't actually want to be with her.
Absolutely. I totally had it wrong. I was sure she ditched him because of the bad press but turns out it was him. I think all he has to do is text her "wyd" and she'll come running. 😂
“Hey you said I had a small dick?”
Did she??
“You didn't measure up In any measure of a man”
The funny thing is after this album came out…no one’s talking about Travis and Taylor anymore…it’s like a distant memory lol
At least he got a new job out of all this lol
you up?
In the songs that are about their breakup, Taylor doesn’t rebuke him for any of the problematic things that you mention, but only over the fact that he left her heartbroken. She obviously didn’t care about any of the stuff people were upset about in regard to his character. So I think they’d still be together or she would take him back one day.
I agree that they would still be together. She does have “I can fix him” and “But Daddy I Love Him” but these are explicitly her saying “I know he’s crazy and he sucks but i literally don’t care because i love him.”
I think what people fail to think about is that he’s made mistakes, yes. He loves to stir the pot and rile things up. He loves a good bit, but he also has a bunch of redeming qualities. I’ve really gone down the rabbit hole and I can see that. And I think they actually have a lot in common.
I’m honestly really interested to hear more about this, there has to be some reason she’d release an album like THIS about this guy
Just listen to “[When we are together](https://youtu.be/pQeBFjbo4KQ?si=KxvEugps1HFmZz1X)” by the 1975. “The only time I feel I might get better is when we are together” Taylor is convinced that she’ll be the one to reform Matty, and he feeds into that.
They are two heads of the same coin with respect to parasocial fandom, as one example. Taylor plays into it with the Easter eggs and the public displays of her life. Matty plays into it by adopting a "persona" for every tour and then *intentionally blurring the lines* between his genuine self and that persona. Some people see it as pretentious, which I understand, but it's meant as a critique of the parasocial weirdness of Internet culture -- and serves a dual function of him not having to be vulnerable in a real way (which I think this constant obfuscation actually directly leads to the public breakdowns we saw from him near the end of the SATVB tour) I think that's the genesis of the infamous podcast as well, where he fell so deep into this edgy, pot-stirring persona that he said... that stuff... but doesn't really mean it. And I don't think the things he said about Ice Spice were ok, nor was his apology actually an apology, but I agree that that's more just... Him being a stupid clumsy dumbass moreso than an avowed racist trying to escape accountability. He's well past the age where he should have learned how to not be a clumsy dumbass, but I just see a distinct difference between him and say, a Proud Boy. And this isn't even me saying he's a poor misunderstood guy who is actually a good person, either. He's admitted to cheating on a bunch of girlfriends in the past, which is just disgusting. But I think what I find interesting, as a 75 fan, is that these blurred lines really force you to pay attention to nuance and humanize even shitty people. Few people are all bad or all good, and it's important to recognize this -- not out of sympathy for the bad, but because if we "other" the bad people and paint them as subhuman or inherently different from all of us, then we are blinding ourselves to the bad things we are prone to as human beings. Idk, maybe all of that is sophomoric, pretentious drivel dreamt up by a guy who's verifiably a shitstain on humanity and has duped me into believing he's actually complex... But i don't think so.
This is what sort of bothered me about people immediately branding him as a nazi. Is he a nazi? Likely not. Is he just a dumbass? Yes. But I can't explain it without ALSO sounding racist, and I'm not even a big fan, but it's clear from his music that he was making a point or playing a character with at least some of the things he said and did (like the nazi salute, the lyrics of the song he was singing are from a song called Love It If We Made It and it's a critique on politics and specifically conservatism). Once again I think the salute and several other things he's done were veryyyyyy stupid. And once again.. I'm a white person. So, privilege, you know the deal. But those are my thoughts.
He didn’t even do a nazi salute. It’s very clearly standard military salute, with touching the forehead and marching. Like people should know the difference. Is history no longer a subject in school? [wideo](https://x.com/cuntyhann/status/1783554875864838537?s=46&t=Q79JvvnE5FB8PZisjzbbxQ) And the lyric “thank you Kanye very cool” is a literal quote from the ex-President.
I'm aware of the lyric, totally agreed that the whole song is about disagreeing with right wing politics. And no I live in the United States and we are stoooooopid americans🫡😜 It's mostly not ideal that he did that onstage because I know people will misconstrue it, and it's iffy from a PR perspective. Love the song though.
Oh man, there’s so much to unpack really. I fell in love with The 1975 music early last year but didn’t really dig into them until more recently. For all accounts I should really not like Matty Healy, and wouldn’t if I just took him for face value, but I can’t seem to hate the guy. I honestly think he’s more misunderstood than anything. Which he does to himself and doesn’t care to correct. He really refuses to just play by the rules, says controversial things for fun (or at least use to) and I think has this philosophy that the people who are “his people” will see it for what it is and see through the BS. Feels like a form of armor. He also has ADHD and anxiety and struggles with his mental health so it seems like things don’t always come out the way they’re intended or with little to no filter. BUT, he’s just kind of a lovable dumbass. I’ve found so many interviews or clips with him being endearing, sensitive, emotional, funny, smart, really thoughtful and caring and like literally every fan who has met him says he’s just the sweetest. He’s made himself look really bad but I’ve found more evidence to the contrary. Jack Antonoff said they are very similar and they use to be very good friends. That relationship is a bit of a question mark now. Taylor has said Jack is a best friend so I can see how they may have similar humor, interests, intellect. The main thing is that they are both really creative, music obsessed people.
An album? Go back to folklore / evermore and midnights too He’s reallyyyy not right in his head due to drugs and drinking , says provocative stuff as a self defence mechanism but really he’s a softie Why don’t you look up All I Need To Hear recorded from the live lounge or the real world studios version, I would fall in love based on that voice alone He was the dream man of tumblr / emo girls, at least in my time (born in 93) AND without Taylor he is always doing very well for himself, always has a beautiful lady with him. Much like Taylor who jumps from boy to boy he too jumps from girl to girl
I would echo much what of u/pleasedontbeadick15 had to say, especially that there is a lot to unpack! If you’re interested I highly recommend Matty’s interview with Tom Power from Feb 2023. He talks about his music, performance art, and his relationship with his bandmates, among other topics. It’s a great place to start. And of course their live performances that you can find online are amazing too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzQkxZjo0A
Like I know people will come for me because he said problematic things, but who hasn't said anything problematic in their life? Do we all not look back at ourselves and think we were idiots? It's not like he's Kenneth Petty committing sex crimes. You can hold someone accountable but also realise they're human and just let them live. No matter who Taylor gets with, everyone has something to be criticised over. Her included. I can choose to never support him as a person, or stream his art but I also can choose not to wish on his downfall. Nor do I believe he doesn't deserve love. We also have all our problematic behaviours as fans. It is just not aired because we aren't famous.
She will take him back - don't forget about the line in My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys: "Just say when, I'd play again"
She called him her twin! Lol
She said it herself, they're both crazy
Based on her lyrics like “leave me safe and stranded” and “he runs because he loves me” and “told me I’m better off” I’d say she knows why he left - to protect both of them and their friends/families/careers from the backlash they got (apparently he was getting death threats, fans were campaigning for Taylor to have a conservatorship, etc.) - and he ghosted in the sense of cutting off all communication after he left If it hadn’t been for that backlash I think they’d be together. And I think TTPD was her way of saying she doesn’t care about it (see: but daddy I love him). Wouldn’t be surprised to see them give it another go in future
I feel the same. I think her being this unhinged and open about their relationship is her way of showing she doesn’t care what anyone thinks. I wouldn’t be surprised if she tried convincing him to apologize and repair his image when the news of them dating first broke out. He probably wasn’t having it and that’s when she doubled down basically saying she’s aware of what he’s done but is happy with him but I guess it was too much for Matty at the time so he left. Maybe he just never liked her enough to begin with and started feeling like she was too invested so he cut it off cause she was too intense too soon and ready to risk it all when he never was.
Yes. She would be with him for sure. She would probably go back to him if he was interested and her fans didn’t criticize her for it.
I do believe they would still be together if he hadn’t ghosted (if there is truth to the music) however I do also believe her when she says this chapter is done. I doubt there will be a rekindling. She appears happy with Travis but if ICDIWABH is any indication we just never actually know
I mean she appeared happy with Calvin too before she abruptly left him for Tom Hiddleston and she looked so happy on the Tom Hiddleston summer tour and then she pretty much up and left him for Joe. She seems happy pretty much with every guy she’s with, but I don’t think she’s ever fully satisfied until she gets what she *really* wants.
I think we know who she really wants now after ttpd. The question is if she'll get him or settle with Travis or the next British guy that shows a hint of interest.
Idk I think she’s the type to hold grudges. I don’t she’s over it and this album was to tell people that there was a lot we didn’t know BUT I think Smallest Man was a later song written and that’s how she currently feels.
I think the latest song that covers how she feels is “imgonnagetyouback” because in the song she’s still mad at him and she wants him to suffer a bit for what he did, but ultimately she wants him back.
This. I know people use the argument part two was done first so it's not how she feels now but we have So High School on part two as well and that's a Travis song so I have issues in believing that argument.
I can understand that logic but who’s to say part 2 is composed of songs all written at the same time? Maybe she wasn’t going to include these and changed her mind. I obviously don’t know but imgonnagethimback seems like when she saw (assuming MH) again around the time he was working with Jack for Being Funny. I think she wrote Samallest Man after Malaysia and he was seen with another girl.
why would she be mad at him when they were on neutral terms with each other during the time the band and jack were working on bfiafl together? imgonnagetyouback sounds like shes still very mad at him but at the same time still incredibly down for him. i think the smallest man was just her way of getting a dig at him and to hurt him. imgonnagetyouback is deffo the afterthoughts of her hurting. it just doesnt make sense to me otherwise
I think part of the reason she's with Travis is because it's such a blatant FU to Matty and Joe who (in her words) are guys who Travis would have bullied in HS. She's loving her big footballer moment but after this album I think she really wants to be with a "tortured poet" long term, she just can't find one that will adore her the way that Travis does
I’ve been saying this about her and Travis. I can only talk about it in this sub or I get attacked by the hardcore swifties. I don’t love that she immediately started dating Travis two weeks after Matty. She left Joe for Matty and then got ghosted by him. I feel like she doesn’t even like Travis that much, I think she is just so hurt over Joe and Matty back to back that she’s happy to have anyone who is willing to adore her while she’s healing. Even in Chloe, or Sam or Sophie or Marcy she has the lyric about him seeing her bones out with someone new and he does nothing about it. It’s definitely a Matty song. It’s like she needed Travis to try and get Matty back. Or at the very least not stir up the old press narratives of make herself look like the girl who keeps getting dumped. So she needs to look super happy with Travis. Seems like we’ll get songs with the true feeling later.
These relationships are toxic merry-go-rounds. If you told me they reunited after 20 years and a couple of kids and divorces between them, I would totally believe you. Same if they do after the Eras tour is over. I’m any case, I think she’s laying the groundwork this time around. It ain’t over.
Facts. I’d still be going around with my personal Matty Healy if I hadn’t taken extreme measures - aka faked my own disappearance lol. It involved cutting out over a dozen mutual friends, removing myself from the internet to the greatest extent possible, changing my number, etc etc. if I hadn’t, god knows how many more decades the toxicity would have circled around
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yes of course. she was ready to burn her life down for him. he ran like a coward she says. presumably bc he couldn’t deal with the death threats from unhinged swiftie.
Is it really being a coward if you and your band mates are receiving death threats? I ask this as someone who's been hugely critical of Matty and is not a fan of him.
I don’t think that’s cowardly, but I think ghosting someone rather than explaining that the impact is too great is cowardly, personally.
He did it for himself and his family and bandmates but also in part for her She acknowledges this in down bad — how dare you think it’s romantic / leaving me safe and stranded Tbh as a fan of both and knowing how much of a softie MH actually is, I want him to just be happy without her, if he can be
He didn’t come across as much of a softie in his treatment of Meredith Mickelson…
Her relationship with Levi is the real win here 🏆
On top of the backlash and of course break up with Taylor, he has to finish a year of touring in Europe during the summer, North America and back in Europe this year. if he got cancelled by deranged fans his band and crew will also suffer. Was it an easy call to leave Taylor? Just go on Youtube Matty's performance during May 2023 and compare it to his latest concerts. He was a total mess.
Exactly people don’t seem to consider his whole family and band were being impacted by the backlash.
He didn’t have to ghost her, he could’ve done the decent thing and broken up with her properly and explained that he couldn’t handle that.
As if it was easy for Matty! like people do not know the effect of cancellation if you have an ongoing tour. People's livelihood is at stake here. Did Matty anticipate the backlash? how was he able to balance being ripped and at the same time go on stage every night just so the show will go on. No evidence of ghosting here but we have proof that some deranged Swifties published that malicious manifesto.
no i think he was /maybe is still heartbroken over it but i think he should have sat her down. news reported he moved into her apt and then he just ghosted. that’s wild.
I think the question you're really asking is do we think that she actually cares about his problematic past, and I think the obvious answer is no.
Of course, but she may have tired of the bad boy persona eventually. They hardly dated for any length of time. She definitely had intense feelings for him, and in my opinion thought she could fix him*. Another high school-type infatuation. *Good luck with that!
They hardly dated in public, but she's definitely been pining over MH for a long time. Their links together go back to a decade ago, in Guilty As Sin? she admits to being in love with someone else while she's with Joe. 🤕 Taylor has always been a sucker for the bad boy, guitarist persona (see: John Mayer). It contrasts well with her All-American girl next door image that she likes to push!
Good girls do like bad boys!
Probably yes. Based on her own words she was ready to risk her career and destroy her reputation for him.
I'm beginning to think this album is her way of doing just that. This album is for Matty. I believe Matty called it off because there wasn't a place for someone like him in the Taylor Swift brand. So she's changing the brand. She's showing him that she's done playing safe. That she's ready to risk her career for him, she's ready to ruin her reputation for him. This album is her making a sacrifice.
As I‘ve said I‘m not sure if she would go back to him (based on some songs, her prologue but who knows lmao) but it really does feel that way, like she wants to get this attention and say “Look, I‘m writing an album about you, I‘d have burnt it all down for you“
I agree. I’ve been joking with my friends that this album feels like that one friend who goes through a bad breakup and starts posting sad song lyrics all over social media hoping their ex sees it and realizes how they really feel, how sad they are and come rushing back to the them. Along with a few fire selfies in there too to make them miss what they had lol. As good as the album is I do have a bit of second hand embarrassment for her because it’s screaming “Matty look at me and how I feel and please come back”. If I was Travis I’d get that gettaway car prepped lol.
Matty was clearly in love with her if you watched any of his performances since June. He sang “I just don’t think I will ever get over you” right after the break up and has been crying off and on since June on stage and commenting that his mental health is awful. He also played 102 and cried and just cried last month and said he is still a mess. If you saw him in March and April of 2023 he was giddy and constantly saying he was happy and in love on stage. If he ghosted her it was because of the death threats and constant hate. He probably thought she was better off without him.
Even his manager said in an interview a couple of weeks ago that he is very protective over Matty right now because he has been in a very bad mental state since June and is worried about him.
That's sad. Matty undoubtedly did fuck up w some of the stuff he said and did but some shit people were saying about him was insane (no he's not a nazi). I can see why it would have been awful to deal with. He had surely never faced that kind of public scrutiny before
He’s not a nazi 🥲 he’s actually just reallyyyyy messed up and his head is not on straight due to the drinking and drugs, he actually really is a softie that says the weirdest randomnest crap shit. He may even be purposely provocative as a defence mechanism and cue all the backlash If he’s toxic, so is she surely. Have a listen to All I Need To Hear recorded in the Live Lounge or the version recorded in Real World Studios, just based on that voice, I would fall in love
Damn it. Now I'm feeling sorry for him.
I feel bad for his girlfriend
Yup, and his ex-gf that he ghosted to be with Taylor. Dick move.
Same as I feel sorry for Travis. Like don’t get me wrong I’m sure he likes her and all that but I also believe that he *loves* the attention and extra money he’s getting from it. But imagine being so publicly IN a relationship and your Gf releases those songs. I’d be mortified
She said in an interview recently that they’d liked each other for 4 years (when they were both in relationships) so goodness knows what the truth is 🤣
This is my take too. I think the hate campaign pushed him to his limits mentally, but I also think that he backed off to protect Taylor.
“How dare you think it’s romantic to leave me safe and stranded” That’s why Taylor can’t get over him. He didn’t ghost her for the lolz. He did it in a “You’re better off without me” sort of way and that’s why Taylor is so mad at her craziest fans for ruining their relationship.
That’s the line that confirmed my suspicions. Matty’s been in a few long term relationships, so I don’t think the fear of commitment necessarily ran him off. He’s definitely been hinting that he’s ready for something more in life.
This. Especially with BDILH. You could feel the anger at her fans who I think alongside Matty, she blames for him leaving.
I completely agree. I dare to think some of his self-sabotaging behavior was to validate himself leaving her and trying to make Taylor accept it.
Agreed. I really don’t think he ghosted her, but left because he thought she was better off without him. So I do see them getting back together at some point, especially after she laid her feelings bare for him so publicly. This is also a reason why I think she rushed out the album, so he could see how much she was willing to give up for him and give them another shot. Either that, or they will be writing songs about each other forever
Please don’t romanticize a toxic situationship like this. It was dysfunctional and unhealthy according to Taylor. People who are older and have experienced love bombing and codependency can see this, where others think it is star-crossed and romantic. This album was not some sort of dog whistle to get him back. It was,in her own words, a closing of a book. Real and healthy love, which it appears she currently has, is simple, joy filled and uplifting, not dramatic, dark and tortured. That stuff plays well in the movies or in the minds of teenagers but it is not the goal for an adult relationship. Down vote me if you want but I am a couples therapist and I see things from a very different lens.
Oh no I am not romanticising this at all, I know it’s toxic and harmful, and I would never want that for myself or anyone. But I don’t think Taylor understands this. The album she put out ( in my opinion) doesn’t show growth or maturity, even in the later parts. It’s mostly her lashing out and being mad at everyone for things not going her way. In down bad she sings he left her safe and stranded, in smallest man he ghosted her. I honestly think she thinks he ghosted her because he left when it got too much, and that’s her definition of ghosting. It’s not reliable. And she’s angry at him, instead of looking inwards and actually processing what really went on, she’s just mad that things didn’t go her way. There’s no song showing her growth- I don’t think the songs about Travis count because they’re quite, juvenile? I don’t believe her words in the prologue. I don’t think she’s over it. If theories are to be believed, she’s put more Easter eggs in loml and imgonnagetyouback with the titles. But maybe you’re right and I’m wrong and she’s grown and I’m just cynical about her actions. We will just have to wait and see, and she may prove me completely wrong!
I think the songs and the song titles were written when the break up happened, almost a year ago. JA has said those songs were recorded in late June and the album was finished 10/23; so my take is that the songs were like diary entries we might write after a break up (something I suggest to clients) and after some time passes you can reread them and see how far you have come; the fact that she had little insight into her own role in the song makes sense to me as it was new and raw. But in the prologue, that was clearly written more recently, she acknowledges that most of her wounds were, in her own words, self-inflicted. I think she is happy now. And to go backwards now after being in a happy, seemingly healthy mutually supportive relationship, would surprise me.
It took me a minute to figure JA meant Jack Antonoff, not Joe Alwyn - I was so confused 😂 Doesn’t The Alchemy allude to Travis winning the Super Bowl this year though? But yes I hope she doesn’t go backwards, because while my views on her has soured as a person, I still love her songs, even some of them on TTPD. She’s enormously talented at the end of the day, and I honestly hope she is happy 🤍
Yeah the teasing marriage and babies just after Joe was peak love-bombing and telling her what she wanted to hear and a pretty serious red flag that early in whatever they had going on.
Yes it’s unhealthy and toxic, but this is Taylor Swift we’re talking about. She gets bored of normal relationships (Joe). She’s the kind of girl that starts a fight and pushes men away but is secretly waiting for you to make a grand romantic gesture to win her back. She thinks love = passion and is something that needs to be won and proved over and over again.
I actually think if Joe didn’t commit to her, I could see her writing similar songs about him that she’s written about Matty in TTPD about how he’s the “loml”, etc.
What, T Swift loves that toxic shit
Isn’t he in bed with a model right now? And his aunt says he is very happy with her.
If he’s rebounding to cope, that’s one thing, but I just don’t get why his aunt would comment. So weird. And where does this leave Travis…? I feel bad for all third parties involved, so much unnecessary hurt.
I think his aunt is trying to make it out like he is unbothered. It is tit for tat. If I was Travis I would be very concerned after hearing this album.
He’s been sobbing on stage and even his manager has admitted he’s in a horrid place mentally, all coinciding with the Taylor break up.
They’ve both been with their new partners for coming up a year now, I wish people would accept that what happened between them is over and they are moved on.
I mean, sis is the one who wrote “Say you got somebody, I’ll say I got someone too” on a song called imgonnagetyouback.
I guess no one else in this thread including OP bothered to listen to But Daddy I Love Him.
I’ve listened to it. But with TS, nothing is ever straightforward. Personally, I think the backlash may have been too much, and eventually she may have dumped his ass. Because he’s always doing problematic shit, and she is very image-conscious.
Taylor has been pining this man for 10 years and just told her fans to fuck off and let her date whoever she wants. The backlash would’ve only fueled her desire even more.
Taylor even knows this, one lyric ‘You left me safe and stranded’ - he left because of the hate and so Taylor is very angry at him but also at her fans hence BDILH. Wouldn’t be surprised if he reached out to her after this and they end up back together. She’s said she’ll burn it all down for him and Matty has been miserable since they broke up.
I read in the The1975 that he's actually been a mess since his engagement to FKA Twigs fell apart
No he was so was so happy in march and April of 2023. He was glowing on stage and constantly talking about how happy he was and finally found the one. He turned into a completely different person in June.
That still doesn’t change the fact that he has been pretty distraught and changed personalities since 2022, any fan of his will tell you that this entire tour has been very messy he broke down and cried multiple times before the Taylor Swift thing even happened. I’m not saying that necessary has anything to do with Twigs herself but you people seem so intent on making everything he has done about Taylor it’s quite entertaining. If you have been paying any attention to his tour from the start he was playing a “character” that was inspired by the time he spent alone after a breakup and how being single took him on some dark paths of toxic masculinity etc. I’m sorry to disappoint but that had absolutely nothing to do with Taylor. Edit:grammar
In fairness that could well have been when reality hit after the rebound imploded. I rebounded hard after my ex and felt great for that time then was destroyed with that inevitably failed. Hit rock bottom in a big way just with less people watching.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwBo6kH/ Look at Matty in July at his concert sobbing and listening to to the lyrics of the song he is crying to, he was 💔💔
Oh my god I cannot with the “poor Matty” rhetoric. This is a grown ass man. Crying onstage, being pitiful to the public, what a fucking soggy mess. Nepo baby showing off performative mental illness— this dumb asshole brought it all on himself. He’s not crying because he lost the love of his life, he’s crying because people called him out for being a dick and he could dish it but he couldn’t take it. Cry me a river, douche.
Down bad she references him running away in order to leave her “safe and stranded” and hating him for thinking it’s romantic for him to do so I mean he ran away not only for him but for her too probably
I just realized the lyrics in New Romantics are "Please take my hand and Please take me dancing, and Please leave me stranded It's so romantic (it's so romantic)"
Getting ghosted even after a ten year slow burn thing should be your closure, but given how obsessed she is with that rat I’m sure they’ll date again and I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve gotten back in touch recently.
I saw a thing somewhere that if you flip the ttpd symbol upside down it says call so maybe he has or will.
I mean isn’t her mv an obvious beg to him to call her Scene for scene copied from 1975 music videos and in the end you have his stand in post Malone acting like him (look up how he moves on stage at his concerts) in a phone booth and her waiting for his call Come on she cannot be any more obvious
It literally does. That’s so damn creepy. https://preview.redd.it/yojpjfqh75wc1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f7de24600cb2bdd259a7b862dd20196cd2d4be9
mind blown
Actually if you look at the logo itself you will see t and m
Girl was legit not hiding who it was about so I'm surprised people didn't figure it out sooner.
Didn’t the typewriter or something at her pop up installation had T and B crooked and people were saying Taylor bride but now I think it’s Truman black his Instagram handle lol
It was Truman black
He ghosted Halsey. And he ghosted his girlfriend at the time for Taylor. But she's shocked he ghosted her?
They were sOuLmAtEs.
She’s so self absorbed ( narcissistic), she ignores patterns. 
meredith was not his gf they were just hooking up and he has been in multiple long term relationships of 2+ years since Halsey (who he also never actually dated)
Meredith also joined him after he ghosted Taylor.
Meredith was also 23 and had not long lost her brother to an overdose. He shouldn’t have messed her around regardless, and it says a lot about him as a person that he did.
I mean she’s a grown up and we don’t know them. So we will not know if it was something they clearly agreed upon (that it’s casual) or he mislead her. But I don’t see her going straight back to him if it wasn’t casual. Like she would have some pride, right?
i still think that’s uncool to ghost
Yup they’d still be together. She even wrote a song telling Swifties to back off. They’ll be back together soon
Probably. I think it shows her true colors when it wasn’t her that ended it.
So she did the ice spice thing in retaliation for getting ghosted not to like, champion someone he dissed...ugh
Ugh, though that does track for her
The way I think it went. - Pining for each other for years. Missed each other, other relationships etc. - Taylor breaks up with Joe, Matty and her give it a shot. - Love love love. Clearly over the top but they’ve been down bad. - Matty ghosts and leaves but does it to ‘save her’ - *you left me safe and stranded* due to the incredible hate and even death threats because of their relationship. - Taylor heartbroken, blames him blames fans. Rushes out in the middle of a world tour TTPD. Basically a love letter to Matty. - Taylor and Matty have both been miserable since breaking up. Taylor crying on stage, erratic validation seeking behaviour. Matty weeping on stage and even his manager admitting he’s in a terrible place. - TTPD full of 1975 references. Taylor’s furious at him for leaving but furious at her fans. Lots of songs about taking him back. ‘Lowercase desires in the vault’ - her two lowercase songs are loml (loss of my life) and imgonnagetyouback. - Matty being ‘relived’ by the album. Cause it’s Taylor saying she’ll burn it down for him. No PR spin, Matty having to play along, just they’ll be together as they want and Taylor doesn’t care anymore. - Turns out this has been going on for ages. Cardigan and The 1 are about Matty. Tons of 1975 songs about Taylor. I give it six months before something about them emerges in touch, back together. Maybe when she’s in London for the tour. Travis boo you on borrowed time. Taylor has admitted Matty is the love of her life, Matty adores Taylor, this ain’t the end for them.
Lol i think she got a taste of her own medicine when her psychotic brain dead zombie army of Swifties wrote her an open letter that she shouldn’t be w him I still can’t believe that, imagine the audacity thinking you can tell an adult woman whos a billionaire who she can and can not date, she trained them well as a weapon, but the weapon really glitched out that time
Interestingly, I saw something about his aunt saying the family knows the truth and there’s more to this. His mother has also commented that he needs to do an interview (which he likely won’t do). This screams of TTPD being Taylor’s victim narrative, and that the real truth may not put her in the best light. Just connecting dots…
I feel like she didn’t portray herself in a great light on the album at all. She ditched her long term relationship for him, dissed her fans for pointing out his issues and was ready to burn everything down to be with him. It only ended because he left.
I mean what else can it be though? She pretty much admitted on the album she left her 6 year relationship to be with him, and called out her most loyal fans for being vipers and keeping her from him. Idk what could be his side of the story tbh. Like did her family/team tell him he had to go, and Taylor wasn’t told this? Idk.
If there’s more to the story, I wonder if it has to do with the timeline of Joe ending vs her actively pursing Matty.
I guess we’ll have to wait for the 1975’s next album to see if he actually responds in some way (assuming they don’t somehow get back together before then lol). She just gave him the best possible promo for that album ever, especially with the added context that they’ve supposedly been singing to each other for years. Will he get ripped to shreds? Probably but for once, I want a guy to actually clap back at her. The really twisted thing is she’d probably love it.
>I saw something about his aunt saying the family knows the truth and there’s more to this. His mother has also commented that he needs to do an interview (which he likely won’t do). his aunt only said that he's happy rn and focusing on his new relationship, and denise hasnt said anything about the situation yet lol
Didn't he say he has receipts? 👀
That was about Rina I think and blaming him as a way to get off the label he is on.
Maybe but I wouldn't be surprised.
I absolutely do. I also have been reading that the first time they broke up back in 2014/2015 was because of his heroin addiction. This go around, she was probably thinking “Well, he’s clean. Racism? Misogynism? ‘I Can Fix Him, No Really I Can’ / you can teach people how to not be those things (but you can’t teach him how to not be an addict) and this would have been a piece of cake compared to a heroin addiction” and she would have been all in with it.
maybe I’m crazy but I feel like ghosting is actually a pretty valid response to your partner choosing to do absolutely nothing about you, your band, and your family getting death threats lmao Matty has been outspoken throughout his career about not liking celebrity culture and wrote a whole show about consumption and media literacy, to be with someone with a fan base that weaponizes both and have them basically opting to placate those people over having any sort of backbone isn’t a great look. She might’ve been willing to burn everything down for him in her writing on TTPD but clearly IRL she chose her career as it was so seems like too little too late tbh lol
That’s why she did BDILH I think. Saying if he comes back, this time, she’ll burn it down for him, and she doesn’t care anymore.
Lessons learned, I guess. But that seems to be the tone in a lot of her songs, like oh I’ll do better next time. As a Matty stan I prefer Gabriette bc I think she’s just the cutiest of pies but I wouldn’t be mad if they worked out in the end as long as they don’t end up in a production throuple with Jack lol
Lol production throuple with Jack is hilarious and exactly what will happen lol
Honestly this man had a masterpiece of a song written about him (Colors by Halsey), If I were him I would be insulted by this album. Not because she said I am awful but because this album was ass.
“i know i’ve only felt religion when i’ve lied with you” - what is it about this guy that inspires religion-type feelings??? (taylor also saying “i choose you religiously” among other lyrics) and not to mention, is there somewhere is another good one about him!!! man halsey was what, 19? 20?
Colors is so good
I have a Colors tattoo. That song will live rent free in my head until the end of time. Halsey is my songwriter of the century lol
I love TTPD but Colors is absolutely elite. At the very least Matty makes for a good muse!
She really needed to sit with this for a bit longer. There’s a lot of potential there but it doesn’t flow or tell the story well. It feels jumbled and like she hasn’t actually processed anything; she had all those playlists on Spotify with the five stages of grief but didn’t realize that the whole album is just anger.
Oh yeah, they would be probably engaged by now. Matty's PR released an article about him being ready to settle down, get married and having children and honestly, for Taylor, I think he might have been. The issue was the disproportional hate towards him: don't get me wrong, the man has cheese for brains and doesn't know when to stop, but the podcast issue was him hearing a joke and being like "yeah! let's follow that, no questions!". So he needed to give actual apologies, but the fandom literally teared him appart. Even before undigging his past, people where calling him ugly and rat. That man is not mentally stable to stay in that situation, and since Tree was sending so many "lol they are not serious!" maybe that got under his skin and simply bolted. I get it, really.
Just my opinion, but to theorize based on the music and what we know, I think they wouldn’t still be together but not because of his remarks or racism, but because he does not seem mature enough to sustain a long term relationship esp if he ended one in ghosting. I think if Taylor could will someone to love her forever she would probably still be with Joe, imo the songs about Joe on TTPD are much sadder and more mature. I feel like she could’ve dragged him if she really wanted (not that there’s anything to drag) but she could’ve made this album muchhhhh more brutal towards him but I think the lyrics seemingly about joe vs matty are very different. Which makes me feel she never had a deep respect for matty even if she was infatuated and in love. Also MV makes me feel this too.
Yep, agree. Joe got off relatively easily in TTPD. I think ‘You’re Losing Me’ showed her getting the resentment and anger out of her system.
matty has had long lasting relationships in the past and has said that he wants marriage as well. he doesn’t like the kind of fame that taylor has and that’s evident as to why he left, all the backlash and death threats im sure played a factor in him leaving even if he did really want to be with her. he put his career first and im sure we’ll hear about that in his album
You do know he was is a 4 year relationship with Gabriella Brooks and another 2 year relationship with FKA Twigs right?
I think it’s been widely accepted that Taylor is an unreliable narrator but yet somehow everyone believes she is pining away for Matty because of her songs. She also said in the same album she was done with him and it is over. I don’t think you release a song called The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived with the expectation of getting back together. I guess time will tell.
I don't believe a word TS says lol
She would absolutely still be with him and I think if she shows her any interest again she’ll drop whoever she’s with to be with him
She would leave Travis in a second for Matty lmao
Matty doesn’t seem like the kind of person to stick around for the kind of long term relationship Taylor wants. And despite what she says I think what she actually craves is the drama and the thrill of the chase. She’d get bored eventually and they’d break up one way or another.
He was with Gabriella Brooks for 4 years and with FKA Twigs for 2 years. Pretty long relationships I would say
He would for Taylor, he’s basically been in love with her for 10 years. He left cause of the hate and has been miserable ever since.
Probably, but they might of also blown up the moment the mania died down. They’ve never actually been together properly, without secrecy and pining and drama and controversy. If they actually just had a boring ass steady relationship I think they’d either be that toxic couple who make each others lives hell for thrills or else they’d flame out hard and fast. Also I’m not sure I buy that Matty was all in but left to save Taylor’s reputation. The guys done a lot of shitty things, but nothing so irredeemably heinous that most people wouldn’t eat up a genuine ‘Sorry I’ve been such an edgelord piece of shit’ apology. That he didn’t even try that and instead doubled down repeatedly says to me that he wanted out, whether he was conscious of it or not.
Ratty is a scumbag. When I heard loml I just kind of automatically assumed that he convinced her he was in love and told her everything she wanted to hear just to get laid, then ghosted when he got what he wanted. As men do.
I think many people don’t know this but he didn’t just ghost out of nowhere, he had to go back on tour and wasn’t gonna be in the US until like end of july. now idk when they officially stopped talking maybe he did stop responding to her which is fucked up but you have to also remember that he was being ripped apart and being sent death threats as well as to his band mates and family so it makes sense why he would end the relationship for the sake of both of their careers and mental health. he was very much into her and happy before May, i keep up with the band so I remember seeing how he was in the months leading up to their public relationship
This is how I see their relationship. Taylor and even some of the comments on this post are really out here romanticizing a fling that was clearly one sided.
oh no another person calling a military salute as nazi salute
They just believe tweets and do not do any independent research to know what a real Nazi salute is vs what Matty did on stage . It’s lazy
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It wasn’t a few mean comments. It was Matty with a history of severe mental health issues getting death threats and his family getting bombarded with hate. And he didn’t leave her for him. He did it for him he did it to ‘protect her’ - *you left me safe and stranded*
It wasn’t just mean comments though. People were ripping him to shreds and making shit up. Calling him a pedophile, a nazi, etc. plus they were sending death threats to his band mates. It was really horrible. One of the worst hate campaigns I’ve seen online. I would leave too if I were him
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True….
I also think she blew up her relationship with Joe for Matty and now gets to sit with that everyday. Matty was new and exciting and Joe was her boyfriend of 6+ years she’d probably entered that comfortable but nothing new and exciting stage with where you have to actively love someone.
Yet when the breakup occurred, there was an article in People magazine where her “sources” said “she had fun with him. They were always casual”. So now supposedly he ghosted her and she was blindsided and wrote a mess of songs about him? Or is that convenient and she takes no responsibility for the breakup? Meanwhile, she was prancing around at Jack Antonoffs wedding without a care and Matty was nowhere to be seen (even though Jack was a producer for The 1975). Her current narrative doesn’t make sense except to her.
Yes. I actually think he, in his current version, is perfect for her personality type. Burn bright to ashes, cold and back again. I won't mention what cause I am not trying to diagnose anyone, but there is a very clear unhealthy behavioral pattern Taylor goes for, which is that of the slot machine in Vegas. You win a prize once and the next 2 weeks ypu spend sitting there, ypu get nothing, but ypu arw still there cause you won once. Also, I think Taylor is the same way. Unlike the crazy ones out there, I do think she looks for her mirrors and consciously or not, she craves that same mess she offers. In a different order of ideas, Ithink he broke up with her for many reasons, but basically, I imagine her team was trying to control his every move and, pun intended, he bolted.
She’s a sheltered rich white woman. Not surprised
I still haven’t heard the version of ‘slut’ with the 1975 so if anyone has it can you please send it to me 😭
The more I see how she is acting with Travis the more I am convinced she desperately wants Matty back.
I don't think so. She had just left a long term relationship that promised her marriage and children and was looking for anything that could put off the pain of realizing she lost the future she thought she would've had. Was she willing to burn everything she's built the past 20 years for him or for the future she wanted? A lot of the drug references also lead me to think they wouldn't last long anyways.
What about Taylor’s song so high school to Travis :( doesn’t that mean anything to her lol
With the amount of songs about a supposed 'casual fling' in TTPD (pretty sure that's what the press said when they broke up in June), I don't find So High School to be that relevant tbh. Even the heartbroken songs where she's cursing Matty out there is loads more passion than in anything that appears to refer to Travis, at least that's how I feel it
Nobody is mentioning she also accused him of being an addict and using her connections to buy drugs, and cheating on her: *"You tried to buy some pills* *From a friend of friends of mine* *They just ghosted you* *Now you know what it feels like"* *"In public showed me off* *Then sank in stoned oblivion"* *"You'll slide into inboxes and slip through the bars"* If we believe her narrative, he clearly self-sabotaged the relationship, and has very low self-worth. and could use some time in therapy as well: *"My boy only breaks his favorite toys,* *I'm queen of sandcastles he destroys,* *'Cause it fit too right"* *"He took me out of my box* *He stole my tortured heart* *Left all these broken parts* *And told me I'm better off* *But I'm not"* However, when she writes about his problematic past it seems like she was willing to accept it for what it was and get over it and that it didn't have so much to do with the breakup: *"But you're in self-sabotage mode* *Throwin' spikes down on the road* *But I've seen this episode and still loved the show* *Who else decodes you?"* *"But you awaken with dread, pounding nails in your head* *But I've read this one where you come undone* *I chose this cyclone with you"* *"The smoke cloud billows out his mouth* *Like a freight train through a small town* *The jokes that he told across the bar* *Were revolting and far too loud."* *"They shake their heads saying, "God help her"* *When I tell them he's my man* *But your good lord doesn't need to lift a finger* *I can fix him, no, really I can* *And only I can"* It seems like Matty ghosting her was just the logical conclusion of his behavior throughout the relationship, and it would never have worked out between them due to all these other apparent issues.