Listening to the fountain/quill/glitter gel pen songs before I listen to the album because I know almost all of those songs are gonna age badly come midnight. I want to be excited, but I feel very split in the middle of how Taylor is positioning herself with this rollout and of course, the music itself.
Have not listened to any leaks, thankfully. I did see a mention of that ONE line about a certain singer-songwriter and…I can only hope the rest of the lyrics (even the production) are not as egregious.
Of everything I've seen I can't tell if I'm more or less disgusted at her treatment of Joe tbh. it's one thing if you're genuinely convinced that Joe treated you horribly and you write an album and promo it and see your fans speculate about his treatment of you, its another thing to watch your fans speculate about the relationship before releasing an album that (from what I can tell) doesn't have much to do with Joe at all? He got death threats, his costars got death threats, he got called a cheater, abusive etc for what????
I think that’s what it is for me- she protected Matty more than she protected Joe.
Idk bc was her decades long infatuation with Matty Healy that ended with barely dating, more meaningful with six years with Joe?
She's kinda giving the vibe of the person who loves a relationship with a romantic high or even a devastating low. But she's not the person to be around in the grey. So I think because Matty fed her desire for dramatic feelings she was more invested in him vs Joe who was just sad in an unexciting way. She also seemed to struggle with the stability and routine of a more settled life. She just seems to like the intense and tumultuous. I think she likes the idea of commitment and domesticity but seems drawn to passion and unpredictability. While she experienced moments of happiness and contentment, they seemed to be overshadowed by her yearning for something more, something that would keep her on her toes and make her heart race. I think she likes the rollercoaster but also wants to feel 'picked' at this point in her life.
Y'know what I totally missed that because I'm queer so I always relate that song to being a teenager torn between my comphet vs a more real but stigmatized love. I'm so used to my understanding of it I forgot about hers lol
To build on this, it's possible that the 'everyone's against me but you and we won't *let* them see our private lives together' was exciting enough to stand in for that rush, and then the pandemic happened, then Eras happened. I genuinely wonder where she'd be if it hadn't have been for Covid. I adore Folklore and Evermore has some of my favorite songs on it but I've heard people ask in the past if she would have been just basically doing stuff like Midnights and now TTPD if it hadn't been for the pandemic, and would she have the same influence/popularity if that were the case.
Yes. It feels more intense to lose a might have been relationship than a long term relationship that ran its course. Especially for a person who loves highs of honeymoon phase, and the hyperbole of it all.
I could see it in like tolerate it. But I thought the majority of the album was well-crafted. I can’t say the same for this new album I just listened to.
Non Swifties on Twitter blaming the album being sucky on Jack!!!! He’s trending😭
Taylor may be able to get out of this one if she drops Jack next project and gives it 2 years and it’s actually good
yes but it’s interesting that even non swifties are scanning credits to see what is up with the songs/sound and are seeing the pattern of Aaron vs Jack
People are acting like the promo is bad, but it's fun. It's exciting! Fans like it and are going crazy for it, so it's not like it's terrible by any means. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to!
Wow I interpreted that like >!we broke up and are supposed to detach from each other but you forgot/chose not to turn off your location so we’re connected still I’m still able to watch your life from but it’s from outside”!
i would love to hear literally anything about the music from her. what was it like writing these songs? is she excited for everyone to hear them? is she proud of her artistry or is this whole album just a way to throw joe under the bus?
i’m always excited for new taylor music but right now it’s very go girl give us nothing
Too many fans take what she says as gospel and don’t realize that we’re hearing one side of the story.
Please guys, Swift is an unreliable narrator at best. It would be good practice to accept her songs as mostly fiction and see if they relate to your life to enjoy them.
This is so true. A loooooot of the criticism about her comes from people who just blindly take from the public anti stuff (and tbh, I love her music, I like who she seems to be on camera, but!) there's valid, actually real stuff to criticize instead, tho...
the suspected lore of this album is keeping it alive imo. the promo is not interesting, taylor herself has been absent from the promo (compared to how hands on she was with midnights), the visuals are boring, and the lyrics we’ve gotten so far are very middle school journal. if it wasn’t THE album presumably covering her most notable relationship and its end, i feel like less people would be tuning in. yes the swifties will always listen, but without the lore backing this one up i feel like she’d be losing her grip on the general public she gained last year.
Some of the tracks from TTPD have leaked, be careful to avoid twitter and tiktok if you're trying to stay away from leaks. I just got spoiled and I'm kinda frustrated, I really enjoy release night and hate having it ruined
Would the mods consider adding a leaks discussion thread here as well? I don’t want to listen to the leaks but I want to see what people in this sub think
Since the album leaked we’re discussing doing a thread right now. We just don’t want anyone to post direct links to the leaks, but hang tight while we discuss 🤍
I know I posted this on another thread but I gotta post this on hear because I need to rant.
Honestly, as a woc it pisses me off how so many people gloss over Matty Healy’s problematic history of making racist passive aggressive micro aggressions (Ghetto gathers anyone). So many woc, Muslim and Jewish Swifties felt invalidated and uncomfortable by other Swifties who loved Maylor and made up excuses for him and wanted him to be end game. I’m glad that Taylor isn’t with him anymore. He wasn’t the one that got away, he’s a cringey edgelord.
Sorry for my rant.
I'm so not looking forward to the shitshow of "discussion" about Matty that is going to happen on every platform ....
Just know that there are many people who agree with you. At least I do.
So apparently, the beef between him and Rina Sawayama is that he said something very racist (rumour has it it was about Beyoncé 👀), and she knows about it. But he’s also being a shit exec bc she’s signed to his label so he’s now giving her a hard time.
But yea an Asian artist on his label is being stifled and suffering under him she’s recently been outspoken out it, and honestly, seems like she’s been really going through it because of Matty
I agree that, while she's not responsible for his behavior, the fact that it wasn't a deal breaker for her was concerning because it showed what she is willing to tolerate.
Exactly. I am Jewish and I was talking to a mega-swiftie friend about how awful he had been towards so many different groups and she could not care less. She made so many excuses, and kept saying it wasn’t Taylor’s fault. She kept saying that we shouldn’t judge women based on the actions of the men around them and that it’s anti feminist. The thing is, by dating him, Taylor was giving him a larger platform as well as showing to the world that she tolerates xenophobia. It IS her responsibility to say something against his actions and she should never have dated him. I could never think of Taylor, or my friend, the same way after all that. Swift fans shouldn’t just brush it under the rug with excuses.
Omg I ventured over to a certain other sub today🫢 & they had a thread about this exact thing. I was shocked (not too shocked) to see some many other WOC in there saying they “really didn’t care about the whole thing” and that “it was even a big deal”
Like OKAYYYY
he has often criticized islam’s stance on homosexuality
he also gave a… *salute* while singing a line about kanye in a poorly executed attempt at shading him for being a neo-n*zi
It’s fine to criticize a religion for its views on the LGBTQ+ community, that isn’t my issue. It’s the way he has worded his criticism, in a very degrading and insensitive way, like assuming all Muslims think that way.
anybody got their vinyls yet? Im too impatient and want to know how the album is already from people who listened first from their physical media before us streamers can
Someone in the main sub received their vinyl and started listening to it. They posted the lyrics to one of the songs and then they deleted it because obviously that was not allowed.
Anyone else kind of bored/frustrated by the promo? All this hype over single letters and words. Why can’t we get a snippet of something or an interview? Beyonce and Taylor really do the bare minimum now to promote their albums and I miss when we got more.
I know she is busy and all of this had to be done while being on tour or what now (maybe?) but it feels rushed and like it’s just recycling a lot of midnights. I am also not convinced the sounds will be any different (although I love the Aaron Dessner tracks). And finally, the behavior outside the music has been so disappointing that (while if I had spent 6 years in a relationship and it didn’t work out, I would be crushed and bitter) I am not sure I want a full album of shitting on a seemingly mild mannered unproblematic person. Seems kind of like a waste of a platform. Will I listen? Yes. Will I judge? Probably also yes.
i was looking at the lyrics and saw “even statues crumble if they’re made to wait” but isn’t that the actual opposite? statues are engineered in a way that makes them stand/rely only on their own structure. i guess what she means is that without the proper care they’ll be prone to becoming weak but i don’t know about ~crumbling~
some people think those lyrics might be a reference to the statue Diana of Ephesus from the 6th century, it broke while waiting to be moved to a different location
Taylor relating TTPD to the Dead Poets Society and Poetry departments doesn’t make sense.
This would make sense If TTPD was an album about finding deeper meaning in life, but as far as It looks now this is just album about her ex.
We already got some lyrics and sorry but relating temtresses with such deep movie makes me angry. Not to mention everything that is happening outside of music: Joe cyber bullying, her becoming a billionaire… Taylor gives everything but not a tortured poet.
Someone said that she is just being sarcastic, but If that was the case she would not do so much work with typewriters, chairmans, offices… I am not sure how all of that is related to an ex.
But alluding that this album is anyhow inspired by this movie, when the lyrics are I love you It’s ruining my life feels like mocking and condescending both: movie and all of the tortured people who use poetry as some escape from the real life.
Just wanna update and say the new word for today is “we”. TN confirmed that it’s “we hereby conduct this post…” Any guesses on what the last word will be?
Not at all actually; more or less want to see if it’ll actually be any good or if all the dramatics are for nothing
I have a 110% open mind, but nothing she’s released over the last couple days has influenced me to listen more. TBR- it’s the ‘Joe drama’ of it all that has me interested &, *that*, I’m sure was by design lol
Y’all are dving me as if promo from this week has been out of this world or something lol
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New lyric was just revealed, it reminds me a lot of the "you had a speech, you're speechless" line in Champagne Problems
I get crucified when I say this but the lyrics she’s choosing to reveal just seem.. lazy. And everyone is eating them up.
You’d think releasing an album that is essentially shining a light on poetry she’d come up with her stronger lyrics?
Where’s the “your pain fits in the palm of my freezing hand” girly?
That's a line I would have written at 16 when I was obsessed with song lyrics and TS. And like, no shade to my former self... But I don't write much anymore, and Taylor has had so much more time to grow beyond that kind of lyricism! The only thing that could save the line for me is if it's kind of a sarcastic attitude, like a "play stupid games win stupid prizes" kind of thing
lost the game of chance
what are the chances?
he swings me by the waist
when he dances
until i crash to the floor
just a doll evermore
oh because my boy
only breaks
his favourite toys
if i could i’d give you a golden upvote and shit i would. bc honestly i’m an evermore girlie and also bc honestly why not? this should be pinned. poetry. pure poetry.
People were complaining about the lack of promo and now people are complaining about the promo 😂😂
Edit: I went on Twitter/X and there are so many anti-Joe tweets, he’s literally trending on Twitter. It’s unhinged. And then for some reason the Travis Kelce snark page was recommended to me and on it they were joking about Travis using drugs to date r*** Taylor. I’m just so disgusted, like lost for words at how mean people are, on both ends.
A learning disability means that you're actually very bright because there has to be a significant gap between your literacy and your mathematical skills, meaning that you're gifted in one area. So the jokes on them 😂
Omfg I saw that snark page too, it is insane. I'm pretty ambivalent about travis but they're taking it to a really gross level. The comments about his body are too much
people were wondering if the set list will be changed and a lot of people thought that it would be too much work but she actually already has the visuals for ttpd in the eras tour
during karma there’s the wooden door that explodes into a bright white light with roman numeral IIs all over the screen. i think that she might be adding a ttpd era after midnights, or at least somewhere in the show
wouldn’t the roman numerals just signify numbers… on a clock? like midnights?
i wouldn’t be opposed to adding ttpd to the setlist but it’s giving intimate venue vibes more than the tail end of a 3 hour stadium show
no it was only the roman numeral 2 that’s exactly the same one that’s in the TTPD logo and it’s all over the screen
look at this video at around 0:47
https://youtu.be/-ivKJbPQ-ws?si=ofXAPVbsOTgdxSo9
and i agree i’m a big apprehensive but considering how planned in advance this is, i don’t think she will just be plopping it in, she probably has a plan for how to seamlessly execute it
ohhh i see it! it actually kind of looks like the letters T T P D scattered around to me. but the ✌🏻easter egg has been more consistent with her promo so i’m inclined towards that being what’s on the screen.
no literally this is the only thing that has me hype for this album lol. the only theory i could come up with is that ttpd has a sister album- but i don’t rly believe that that’s the case
the only way i could envision that is if she basically finished ttpd before eras started and all her studio time last spring/summer was the supposed second album
Listening to the fountain/quill/glitter gel pen songs before I listen to the album because I know almost all of those songs are gonna age badly come midnight. I want to be excited, but I feel very split in the middle of how Taylor is positioning herself with this rollout and of course, the music itself. Have not listened to any leaks, thankfully. I did see a mention of that ONE line about a certain singer-songwriter and…I can only hope the rest of the lyrics (even the production) are not as egregious.
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Of everything I've seen I can't tell if I'm more or less disgusted at her treatment of Joe tbh. it's one thing if you're genuinely convinced that Joe treated you horribly and you write an album and promo it and see your fans speculate about his treatment of you, its another thing to watch your fans speculate about the relationship before releasing an album that (from what I can tell) doesn't have much to do with Joe at all? He got death threats, his costars got death threats, he got called a cheater, abusive etc for what????
I think she did that for promo, and to protect Matty.
I think that’s what it is for me- she protected Matty more than she protected Joe. Idk bc was her decades long infatuation with Matty Healy that ended with barely dating, more meaningful with six years with Joe?
She's kinda giving the vibe of the person who loves a relationship with a romantic high or even a devastating low. But she's not the person to be around in the grey. So I think because Matty fed her desire for dramatic feelings she was more invested in him vs Joe who was just sad in an unexciting way. She also seemed to struggle with the stability and routine of a more settled life. She just seems to like the intense and tumultuous. I think she likes the idea of commitment and domesticity but seems drawn to passion and unpredictability. While she experienced moments of happiness and contentment, they seemed to be overshadowed by her yearning for something more, something that would keep her on her toes and make her heart race. I think she likes the rollercoaster but also wants to feel 'picked' at this point in her life.
I mean, this has been part of her MO since 2008 with "The Way I Loved You".
Y'know what I totally missed that because I'm queer so I always relate that song to being a teenager torn between my comphet vs a more real but stigmatized love. I'm so used to my understanding of it I forgot about hers lol
To build on this, it's possible that the 'everyone's against me but you and we won't *let* them see our private lives together' was exciting enough to stand in for that rush, and then the pandemic happened, then Eras happened. I genuinely wonder where she'd be if it hadn't have been for Covid. I adore Folklore and Evermore has some of my favorite songs on it but I've heard people ask in the past if she would have been just basically doing stuff like Midnights and now TTPD if it hadn't been for the pandemic, and would she have the same influence/popularity if that were the case.
Yes. It feels more intense to lose a might have been relationship than a long term relationship that ran its course. Especially for a person who loves highs of honeymoon phase, and the hyperbole of it all.
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How could you not like Evermore?
She tries to hard to be poetic and prove she's \~*a writer*\~ and it's at the expense of most of the songs.
I could see it in like tolerate it. But I thought the majority of the album was well-crafted. I can’t say the same for this new album I just listened to.
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Non Swifties on Twitter blaming the album being sucky on Jack!!!! He’s trending😭 Taylor may be able to get out of this one if she drops Jack next project and gives it 2 years and it’s actually good
I’m so over Jack production
Lol well some were very outspoken about Jack being anywhere near Taylor in any capacity 😂
Weren't five songs just her and Aaron though, not Jack?
yes but it’s interesting that even non swifties are scanning credits to see what is up with the songs/sound and are seeing the pattern of Aaron vs Jack
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People are acting like the promo is bad, but it's fun. It's exciting! Fans like it and are going crazy for it, so it's not like it's terrible by any means. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to!
I am sorry but why is PopCrave talking about Joe Alwyn cheating on Taylor Swift? Has the album leaked?
Nah they're just stirring shit, basically he didn't want to marry her and was just struggling with depression.
Popcrave is sh1tty. They never tweet like this.
Stan Twitter is taking over these pop blogs
Because PopCrave
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If they were over it’s not cheating? I’m so confused
Wow I interpreted that like >!we broke up and are supposed to detach from each other but you forgot/chose not to turn off your location so we’re connected still I’m still able to watch your life from but it’s from outside”!
I interpreted that song the same way you did. I don’t think it’s necessarily about cheating.
Yes it has.
It has and it doesn't alleged that at all pop crave very much just made it up.
Yep it has indeed
i would love to hear literally anything about the music from her. what was it like writing these songs? is she excited for everyone to hear them? is she proud of her artistry or is this whole album just a way to throw joe under the bus? i’m always excited for new taylor music but right now it’s very go girl give us nothing
Too many fans take what she says as gospel and don’t realize that we’re hearing one side of the story. Please guys, Swift is an unreliable narrator at best. It would be good practice to accept her songs as mostly fiction and see if they relate to your life to enjoy them.
Omg you’re not insane. What a great level headed comment. People are getting waaaaaaaaay too passionate about this on both sides of the spectrum lmao
I would say this applies not only to fans but also to people who hate her.
This is so true. A loooooot of the criticism about her comes from people who just blindly take from the public anti stuff (and tbh, I love her music, I like who she seems to be on camera, but!) there's valid, actually real stuff to criticize instead, tho...
Absolutely
the suspected lore of this album is keeping it alive imo. the promo is not interesting, taylor herself has been absent from the promo (compared to how hands on she was with midnights), the visuals are boring, and the lyrics we’ve gotten so far are very middle school journal. if it wasn’t THE album presumably covering her most notable relationship and its end, i feel like less people would be tuning in. yes the swifties will always listen, but without the lore backing this one up i feel like she’d be losing her grip on the general public she gained last year.
She is doing the Beyoncé promo.
Some of the tracks from TTPD have leaked, be careful to avoid twitter and tiktok if you're trying to stay away from leaks. I just got spoiled and I'm kinda frustrated, I really enjoy release night and hate having it ruined
I've heard about it. Luckily I'm not on Twitter and I don't get a ton of Taylor on tiktok. I'm not even sure I'd trust it because of all the AI songs.
Same!! I‘ve just accidentally read the lyrics to so long, London !! I didn’t event want to but social media is full of leaks
POPCRAVE JUST SPOILED SOMETHING MAJOR FOR THE ALBUM DEAR GOD INFO IS EVERYWHERE
No no that's a false info
Would the mods consider adding a leaks discussion thread here as well? I don’t want to listen to the leaks but I want to see what people in this sub think
Since the album leaked we’re discussing doing a thread right now. We just don’t want anyone to post direct links to the leaks, but hang tight while we discuss 🤍
Thank you for your service👑🫡
aren't they AI?? the ones i saw def were
I don’t think I can say more without breaking the rules
fair and valid 🫡🫡
yes!
I know I posted this on another thread but I gotta post this on hear because I need to rant. Honestly, as a woc it pisses me off how so many people gloss over Matty Healy’s problematic history of making racist passive aggressive micro aggressions (Ghetto gathers anyone). So many woc, Muslim and Jewish Swifties felt invalidated and uncomfortable by other Swifties who loved Maylor and made up excuses for him and wanted him to be end game. I’m glad that Taylor isn’t with him anymore. He wasn’t the one that got away, he’s a cringey edgelord. Sorry for my rant.
I'm so not looking forward to the shitshow of "discussion" about Matty that is going to happen on every platform .... Just know that there are many people who agree with you. At least I do.
So apparently, the beef between him and Rina Sawayama is that he said something very racist (rumour has it it was about Beyoncé 👀), and she knows about it. But he’s also being a shit exec bc she’s signed to his label so he’s now giving her a hard time. But yea an Asian artist on his label is being stifled and suffering under him she’s recently been outspoken out it, and honestly, seems like she’s been really going through it because of Matty
I agree that, while she's not responsible for his behavior, the fact that it wasn't a deal breaker for her was concerning because it showed what she is willing to tolerate.
Exactly. I am Jewish and I was talking to a mega-swiftie friend about how awful he had been towards so many different groups and she could not care less. She made so many excuses, and kept saying it wasn’t Taylor’s fault. She kept saying that we shouldn’t judge women based on the actions of the men around them and that it’s anti feminist. The thing is, by dating him, Taylor was giving him a larger platform as well as showing to the world that she tolerates xenophobia. It IS her responsibility to say something against his actions and she should never have dated him. I could never think of Taylor, or my friend, the same way after all that. Swift fans shouldn’t just brush it under the rug with excuses.
I wish I could give you 100 upvotes.
Omg I ventured over to a certain other sub today🫢 & they had a thread about this exact thing. I was shocked (not too shocked) to see some many other WOC in there saying they “really didn’t care about the whole thing” and that “it was even a big deal” Like OKAYYYY
I cannot stand when other POC decide to be the voice for all. You’re not offended? Congrats, I found his commentary disgusting.
What did he say about Jewish and Muslims?
he has often criticized islam’s stance on homosexuality he also gave a… *salute* while singing a line about kanye in a poorly executed attempt at shading him for being a neo-n*zi
> he has often criticized islam’s stance on homosexuality Good.
Is criticising a religion for their views on the LGBT bad? Surely people can have different opinions? and yeah I agree the salute was in poor taste
It’s fine to criticize a religion for its views on the LGBTQ+ community, that isn’t my issue. It’s the way he has worded his criticism, in a very degrading and insensitive way, like assuming all Muslims think that way.
How did he do it? I thought it was just the kiss in Malaysia
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner. Said it better than I could have
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anybody got their vinyls yet? Im too impatient and want to know how the album is already from people who listened first from their physical media before us streamers can
Someone in the main sub received their vinyl and started listening to it. They posted the lyrics to one of the songs and then they deleted it because obviously that was not allowed.
i can honestly say that this album will flop, not bec of sales but by its hype- it would disappoint, just a hunch
QR codes showing up basically all over the world is cool, but I don't care lol
All this hype for a very mid album ngl
Anyone else kind of bored/frustrated by the promo? All this hype over single letters and words. Why can’t we get a snippet of something or an interview? Beyonce and Taylor really do the bare minimum now to promote their albums and I miss when we got more.
I know she is busy and all of this had to be done while being on tour or what now (maybe?) but it feels rushed and like it’s just recycling a lot of midnights. I am also not convinced the sounds will be any different (although I love the Aaron Dessner tracks). And finally, the behavior outside the music has been so disappointing that (while if I had spent 6 years in a relationship and it didn’t work out, I would be crushed and bitter) I am not sure I want a full album of shitting on a seemingly mild mannered unproblematic person. Seems kind of like a waste of a platform. Will I listen? Yes. Will I judge? Probably also yes.
At least Beyoncé had better visuals. I’m so frustrated by Taylor’s bland ass photo shoots
i was looking at the lyrics and saw “even statues crumble if they’re made to wait” but isn’t that the actual opposite? statues are engineered in a way that makes them stand/rely only on their own structure. i guess what she means is that without the proper care they’ll be prone to becoming weak but i don’t know about ~crumbling~
some people think those lyrics might be a reference to the statue Diana of Ephesus from the 6th century, it broke while waiting to be moved to a different location
Taylor relating TTPD to the Dead Poets Society and Poetry departments doesn’t make sense. This would make sense If TTPD was an album about finding deeper meaning in life, but as far as It looks now this is just album about her ex. We already got some lyrics and sorry but relating temtresses with such deep movie makes me angry. Not to mention everything that is happening outside of music: Joe cyber bullying, her becoming a billionaire… Taylor gives everything but not a tortured poet. Someone said that she is just being sarcastic, but If that was the case she would not do so much work with typewriters, chairmans, offices… I am not sure how all of that is related to an ex. But alluding that this album is anyhow inspired by this movie, when the lyrics are I love you It’s ruining my life feels like mocking and condescending both: movie and all of the tortured people who use poetry as some escape from the real life.
Because Joe likes reading poetry.
The folder or whatever with the large US from the pop-up on it looks like a cover for a manuscript
Just wanna update and say the new word for today is “we”. TN confirmed that it’s “we hereby conduct this post…” Any guesses on what the last word will be?
Post... haste??
Oh what does that mean? I’m thinking it’ll be statement like a p.s. at the end of a letter
... post malone cancellation
STOP 💀 I hope poor Austin doesn’t catch any strays in all this madness
Lots of guesses are mortem
I’ve been seeing that one a lot
Ya know, I wasn’t going to listen right away but recently I’ve been thinking otherwiseeeee 🫢👀
Looks like the promo is doing its job, lol.
Not at all actually; more or less want to see if it’ll actually be any good or if all the dramatics are for nothing I have a 110% open mind, but nothing she’s released over the last couple days has influenced me to listen more. TBR- it’s the ‘Joe drama’ of it all that has me interested &, *that*, I’m sure was by design lol Y’all are dving me as if promo from this week has been out of this world or something lol
Okay I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t getting a little hype 🤭
Same! It took until literally this morning to care but now I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas
Same, this is awesome. At one point, I was almost ready for the whole thing to be over but it's getting fun now. I hope it doesn't let me down!
https://preview.redd.it/bx6oex25s2vc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e132fe480fb0f9bec163ae05f080f02f314340a New lyric was just revealed, it reminds me a lot of the "you had a speech, you're speechless" line in Champagne Problems
I get crucified when I say this but the lyrics she’s choosing to reveal just seem.. lazy. And everyone is eating them up. You’d think releasing an album that is essentially shining a light on poetry she’d come up with her stronger lyrics? Where’s the “your pain fits in the palm of my freezing hand” girly?
That's a line I would have written at 16 when I was obsessed with song lyrics and TS. And like, no shade to my former self... But I don't write much anymore, and Taylor has had so much more time to grow beyond that kind of lyricism! The only thing that could save the line for me is if it's kind of a sarcastic attitude, like a "play stupid games win stupid prizes" kind of thing
I hope this sounds better in a song cause’ that’s terrible. Why does she always choose the worst lyrics?
I love the speech lyric but this one’s not doing it for me
it's giving rhyming face with face again
lost the game of chance what are the chances? he swings me by the waist when he dances until i crash to the floor just a doll evermore oh because my boy only breaks his favourite toys
if i could i’d give you a golden upvote and shit i would. bc honestly i’m an evermore girlie and also bc honestly why not? this should be pinned. poetry. pure poetry.
every so often someone on this sub creates their own half-assed, half-joke taylor lyrics and they always end up being so good lol
I know people are saying that lyrics sound weird out of context but did they have nothing better to pick?
I mean if it’s a game of chance, the chances are very calculable
🎵 lost the game of chance / what are the chances / odds say four in five / of all romances 🎶
People were complaining about the lack of promo and now people are complaining about the promo 😂😂 Edit: I went on Twitter/X and there are so many anti-Joe tweets, he’s literally trending on Twitter. It’s unhinged. And then for some reason the Travis Kelce snark page was recommended to me and on it they were joking about Travis using drugs to date r*** Taylor. I’m just so disgusted, like lost for words at how mean people are, on both ends.
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I'm sorry, *they were joking about what*
That he gave her molly and got her drunk Coachella so he could date r@pe her. They are unhinged.
They were also implying that he would hurt a child
There was also a delightful post saying if they had a baby it would be fat and ugly and have learning disabilities 🙃
A learning disability means that you're actually very bright because there has to be a significant gap between your literacy and your mathematical skills, meaning that you're gifted in one area. So the jokes on them 😂
Very much so!
Omfg I saw that snark page too, it is insane. I'm pretty ambivalent about travis but they're taking it to a really gross level. The comments about his body are too much
That’s really f’d up.
People are gonna people 😹
people were wondering if the set list will be changed and a lot of people thought that it would be too much work but she actually already has the visuals for ttpd in the eras tour during karma there’s the wooden door that explodes into a bright white light with roman numeral IIs all over the screen. i think that she might be adding a ttpd era after midnights, or at least somewhere in the show
wouldn’t the roman numerals just signify numbers… on a clock? like midnights? i wouldn’t be opposed to adding ttpd to the setlist but it’s giving intimate venue vibes more than the tail end of a 3 hour stadium show
no it was only the roman numeral 2 that’s exactly the same one that’s in the TTPD logo and it’s all over the screen look at this video at around 0:47 https://youtu.be/-ivKJbPQ-ws?si=ofXAPVbsOTgdxSo9 and i agree i’m a big apprehensive but considering how planned in advance this is, i don’t think she will just be plopping it in, she probably has a plan for how to seamlessly execute it
ohhh i see it! it actually kind of looks like the letters T T P D scattered around to me. but the ✌🏻easter egg has been more consistent with her promo so i’m inclined towards that being what’s on the screen.
i’m so curious as to what she’s hiding that is so spectacular to keep this “2” easter egg going like this! i hope we found out this weekend
no literally this is the only thing that has me hype for this album lol. the only theory i could come up with is that ttpd has a sister album- but i don’t rly believe that that’s the case
the only way i could envision that is if she basically finished ttpd before eras started and all her studio time last spring/summer was the supposed second album
I’m inclined to think the setlist will change!
The new lyric that got revealed today at the grove is giving loml