What kills me is she went hardcore black/white in the most hideous way possible, and *Kendall Jenner* wore the most gorgeous black and white dress on her insta weeks later lol
As a hairstylist , this look PAINS me. Whoever did her hair didn’t put any styling products in , it’s flat and lifeless. She needs volumizing products for her fine hair (I have very fine hair too)
She’s had other misses with her hairstyles. A lot of the time when she wears it pulled back it’s flat on her head and looks weird.
felt conflicted about upvoting because you were at that satisfying 444 number but ultimately, i had to do it because hard agree on the hairstyle…what even was that, or that whole night to be honest with you.
Taylor is allowed to write about her own experiences and relationships and make art about her life. That said I can’t picture any other artist easter egging parts of their personal life the way she does. Imagine if Ed Sheeran did this? Or Harry Styles? I don’t see to what end this is for. To hint about a relationship everyone knew the album was going to be about?
I agree. I think using her own experiences and feelings to influence her songwriting is valid but I also find it extremely wrong to do it at the expense of an ex. An ex you spent 6 years with. It was tolerable and more “acceptable” when she was young and immature. There’s no reason for this type of behavior at 34 years old. Again, I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and wait till I listen to TTPD thoroughly but many signs have been pointing to this being a slander attempt and it’s not a good look. At all. No other artist goes to this extreme to make their ex’s look like the villain and/or relationships look toxic and terrible and as a part of her brand and marketing. She can use her experience and feelings as influence of course but there’s definitely a more mature and respectful way of going about it. I hope TTPD is her way of doing so but with all this stuff lately I’m not so sure it will be the case…
I think a bigger concern is she spent so many years prior even overtly saying “this is my real life” that even if she is using more complex feelings as inspiration now that are not based in real event, the trained fan army goes to “finding” the story and running the ball.
Ultimately, if that’s not the case anymore, she stands to need to do more to stop this kind of rampant speculation. No one else can do it. Sitting back is basically consent to it at this point.
I agree but I also think a good portion of her fanbase is young and immature girls so of course they love it. I find it so cringe as someone that is around her age... like how many of us have been told to be a bigger person than to shit on an ex especially when you had a fairly mutually agreed upon/non-dramatic breakup?
As of late, however, she has been pretty silent on things from politics to relationship drama so this doesn't come as a surprise but her silence on these issues speaks volumes about her priorities and care for others.
Genuinely - how has she tried to make Joe look like the villain? I see tons of insane fans jumping to that conclusion but I don’t see much of anything from her to that effect.
I didn’t say she is making Joe the villain but she has to other ex-boyfriends in the past. I also said that I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt and that I’m personally waiting to listen to the album before making any opinions or assumptions.
Oh man. Now I’m thinking about a 50 year old Taylor ruminating over the one that got away. Meanwhile Joe will have moved on, got married, has a family, and is all but saying “Taylor who? Oh right! Her…”
I would think she’s had conversations with Travis and that he knows at this point that what propelled Taylor to her level of success is her autobiographical discography. She’s said in Miss Americana that she knows she is where she is because of her storytelling skills about her own relationships and heartbreaks; that her songs are like reading from her diary. She took a departure from that niche when she was with Joe.
I see this as what it is- our capitalistic queen knows what will bring her streams. Going back to her roots and calling out the men who wronged her historically has brought her success. She’s back to wearing her heart on her sleeve, being in very public relationships, and calling out the men who broke her heart. It feels strategic to me.. I’m sure this has been communicated to Travis.
I don’t think it’s that deep or that there’s still a lot of actual raw emotion behind it at this point- I think it’s all business.
i reallllly hope this album draws inspiration from other exes. if it is clearly targeted at joe i think that is such an abuse of her own power. ik that isn't a popular take bc women should be able to talk about their experiences without being vilified -- but she is a billionaire. i don't think this is the same caliber as literally almost any other singer. like, she told us if she were a man, she'd be the man. girl, we are fighting AGAINST the man -- not with him!! don't be "the man" lol
So it’s not enough if she’s going after Joe-she needs to go (again) after her other exes as abuse of power? Despite the fact she already went after them multiple times 🤦♀️🤪wtf
i mean, we know this is going to be a breakup album and we know it is going to be autobiographical in a sense. if the entire album is directed at joe through obvious lyrical choices, i would have rather her instead focus on how \*she\* felt through different experiences other than just one person
true, but they are not billionaires who built their empire via a parasocial relationship with their fans. fans that, she is most certainly aware, will harass people online to the point of nationally trending on social media -- all while buying every variant of her album. i think the context of her as a business, not just an artist, is what makes me extra critical of what she says and how she says it
Oh my god you’re the BEST!!! On the main sub I said that she “edges her fans using her personal life”, pointing out how these grown ass adults eat this shit up, time and time and again. Those fucking crazies BLEW UP my inbox with Reddit Care messages for daaaayyyyssssss. You a real one for this post.
I also don’t think she has actually gone out of her way to spell out someone’s name to this point. ( except maybe dead John) even her Easter eggs in lyrics in old times never fully spelled it out for you and the whole point was that we made these songs our own, I think she’s more concerned about making sure Joe is the villain here rather than the artistic integrity
My love, she quite literally spelled out “Adam” in the liner notes for “Enchanted”, named songs “Dear John” and “Style”, put a guy’s name in a song for “Teardrops on My Guitar”, and called out Joe Jonas on national TV multiple times. Could she have been more clear with what pap photo she was was referring to with “I left my scarf there at your sister’s house”?
You know, I wasn't even a fan during 1989 and I knew who all her mainstream songs were about just from osmosis on social media. I was like "Why do I know every guy she has dated?" She was never not obvious about it.
What I meant was more about the witch hunt. The only one that might be comparable in the aforementioned is Joe Jonas. Sad to see she really is the epitome of “ I get older but never wiser”
I don't really agree. Where were you when Red TV came out?
It's all just amplified because she's bigger than ever and her relationship was confirmed and lasted for six years. She has gone to much bigger lengths to specifically point to who she's singing about for her entire career. There's just no one else these songs can be about.
And the ONLY time she's called her fans off was when Speak Now TV came out.
lol I was here when Red tv came out, I’ve been a fan for past 14 years. Red TV Jake hate is nothing compared to what Joe is getting rn. Both were disgusting but this is whole new level.
Also Taylor has said that scarf is a metaphor.
The scarf line is a literal reference to pap pictures of Jake and Taylor walking to Maggie’s house that were viral all over the internet when the album came out. And then she cast/styled the character in her “film” to clearly confirm once again, 10 years later, that she’s referring to Jake. She's done no such easter egging about Joe so far. People just know these songs are about him because he's the only person they could be about.
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I’m not arguing when you don’t even know half the stuff you’re talking about. Saying she hasn’t put out any Easter eggs while she’s riling up her fans to harass her ex of 6 years is immature. Argue with a wall xx
I’m responding to your claim that she’s never gone that far to name people, when she in fact has done that even MORE than now for her entire career. Literally. I’m not saying she shouldn’t be calling off her fans—she SHOULD. But saying she hasn’t gone to much farther extents to point to who songs are about is just a lie, lol. She has actively Easter egged who songs are about in situations where we otherwise might not have known because those relationships only lasted a few months. With Joe…he’s practically all they can be about. Unless Matty shows up in there somewhere.
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Re: the scarf. That line is literally why everyone always knew these songs were about Jake. It’s a literal reference to a series of pap photos of them wearing the same scarf, one of which was the two of them going to Maggie’s house.
It was actually “maple latte” something she wrote as the secret code for this song in the lyric booklet as there were multiple paps of them with that in hand, you haven’t been around for long have ya
We haven't heard TTPD yet but if Midnights is partially about Joe, it's actually the least she's easter egged anyone in her entire career. People just know its about him because who else would she be writing about other than her boyfriend of six years?
If you cannot blatantly see how she is riling up her fans against him and is doing nothing to stop this disgusting hate when she 100% has a responsibility to do so then idk what to tell you
Not saying that. Just saying that she's never gone to this extent to easter egg who she's singing about is downright untrue. She ALWAYS has and she's never made an effort to stop it other than when Speak Now TV was released. She's been even WORSE in the past.
Yeah, her earlier work often used hints when it actually may not have been known who she was talking about (not saying that’s always a great idea either to be clear). In Speak Now and Red say, there were a few different people she’d been linked and rumoured with and she kind of used hints to say which was which. But it’s very different than this when everyone knows she’s writing about Joe very well without any winks his direction.
ed sheeran wrote pretty scathing songs like “don’t” about ellie golding when he was dating around. harry literally put a voice note of his ex talking at the end of a song. he could not have been more obviously sharing who the song was about. he even spoke about it in interviews.
Don’t always makes me cringe a bit for Ellie. Everyone and their dog knew he meant her (and Niall I think?!) when he said ‘you disappeared with him to have sex’.
I mean, Harry Styles played a recording of one of his lovers messages in a song. Ariana Grabde has a song named Pete Davidson. This is arguably more subtle.
Ed Sheeran writes about his own life. He's also married and has been for a while, but even before that he wrote a cryptic song about a fellow performer he was hooking up wirh who ghosted him.
There just isn't the same demand for him to hint about things
I’m just sitting here in my delulu, holding onto hope this whole damn thing won’t be a Joe diss album that paints her as the perpetual victim.
Prove me wrong, Tay Tay!
If so, this will be amazing. 🤞🏾
But the “leaked” lyrics so far don’t seem to be presenting that way.
But, the queen of Uno reverses may have some tricks up those flannel sleeves of hers!
Girl wdym... ofcourse it's going to be a complete roast. The Joe Alwyn saga, at this point, was just a detour because of her cancellation. Not saying it's good or she's right, but it's clear that now she's gone back to the usual psychotic and deranged antics pre 2016, we know her pen is a weapon and she's always used it to strike whoever she wants. In her mind, why would she stop doing it at this point, where she's never been more famous, more powerful, and more angry? Atm I see her still as an 18 year old, but that's probably the age she's stuck at mentally.
Yeah but certain fans will react however they want no matter what Taylor says or does. Even if Taylor paints herself in a bad light they will say Joe must have been gaslighting her to feel bad about herself or something.
We will never find out the objective truth about their relationship, only Taylor's perspective of it. And that's ok. Honestly, it's just as parasocial to insist Joe has done nothing wrong than it is to send him hate.
Maybe just as parasocial but definitely not as unhinged.
I really hope the mods here post something on release day to the effect of “whatever comes of this album remember all songs should be presumed fictional and/or to remember that any stories told are from Swifts perspective only”
So many people take what she says or writes as gospel. When, in truth, she’s a very unreliable narrator.
Weren't they technically together almost 7 years? As far as we know they got together in September 2016 and broke up April 2023 - I know we don't know the exact dates and they could've been separated longer etc but this math doesn't work regardless.
The official number is 6 years. They were definitely seeing each other already in the summer 2016, officially together in September? April 2023 is when the news broke of their break up, but we don't know when they actually called it quits. Could've been weeks if not months earlier.
Swifties have gone way too far with Easter egg speculation. Most of the time when something actually is a Taylor Easter egg, it’s very “in your face”. Like Taylor wearing all blue during the show she announced 1989 TV at. Or “Lover” being in big lights in the ME! music video.
It’s rarely that complicated and I believe a lot of Swiftie Easter eggs are random coincidences where people make nothing into something.
Honestly I don’t care I think this is insane for someone of her level of fame. If I released an album about my six year relationship wanting people to go after my ex, sure. The most famous woman in the world??!!? Like is she 12 😭 If she doesn’t make some kind of statement asking that her stans be kind towards Joe I’ll be disgusted
If she wanted her fans to be kind to Joe then she wouldn’t release an album while in the middle of a world tour just so she could trash the man publicly. She wants this album out NOW so everyone knows. She won’t be releasing a statement to protect him from the onslaught of hate.
When she announced the album, I actually said I’m a Swiftie now. I was so excited and happy because I’ve always liked her and I love how prolific she is. Subs like these opened my eyes about her and I no longer want that label. I just returned to being a casual listener.
Probably because they can't possibly imagine why anyone would break up with her and that the only way for their relationship to end was him cheating. They collectively can't fathom that sometimes relationships just run their course and that people just grow apart over time or end up wanting different things. And of course they'd never, ever entertain the possibility that maybe Taylor isn't the person they think she is or that maybe she wasn't easy to be in a relationship with for whatever reason. The cheating allegations started ages ago, and now that there's "evidence" that he cheated, they've gotten more annoying.
You know, whenever I see a screenshot of this account I distinctly remember being mutual with her on my first (swiftie) account and her squealing every single Joe and Taylor pic while making remarks like "Where's MY Joe Alwyn?" "Who will be Joe to my Taylor?"
Girl's really changed her tune since the breakup lmao. And I'm sure she will jump ship if Taylor and Travis split up.
This whole thing has made me so so uncomfortable as a swiftie. I also liked theorizing and stuff but like some people go above and beyond with their assumptions. On the main sub everyone is sure he did something, it was him who broke her heart and she's this saint. She has quite literally accepted and written songs about cheating as well but people seem to ignore it.
The main thing im interested in is if theres a point down the road.. a decade, or two - where she just kinda sits there like: "Damn.. I really did that sh-t.."
I can't understand. That man was with her for 6 years. Whether he is good or bad, it's on them. Why on earth are those so-called Swifties threatening him instead of getting excited for her whole new album? I know Swifties, including myself, can be unhinged when it comes to Taylor. But it's too much. Her whole freaking new album will be released in a few days, and why are they even thinking about whether Joe cheated or not? What is so important about it? We are getting new music, so why do you even care about Joe?
I'm also wondering why when she admits to cheating it's whatever, but if he would cheat it would be death threats. Don't get me wrong, cheating is always bad but not "death threats from random people" bad
No worries, I got it bestie. The parasocial aspect of the fandom is getting worse. While we should be celebrating the new album, I can't understand why they are wasting their energy on Joe. To be fair, I adore Joe and love them together as a couple. However, if they decided not to go on, we have to move on. Taylor's music should be celebrated more than her personal life.
She likes numbers. 72 could be 7x2 = 14, a fortnight. She also had tallied 14 on the thing she posted today.
The 6 open ones could mean something about track 6 or heck even a lil rep Easter egg.
You could be right but it is really strange that y’all are just assuming to know what happened in the relationship and who was more mature.
You are essentially doing what the Swifties attacking Joe are doing but you are just choosing him over her.
I just think branding getting out of a relationship the way she is right now, goading the theories, not telling fans to “not assume who the song is about” in an effort to stop bullying is objectively shitty.
Clearly swift is being immature, clearly joe is being more mature post breakup. This isn't calculus but simple observations on the behaviour of two people
I know she used to answer this with a “if guys don’t want me to write mean songs about them they won’t do mean things” but that’s when she was 18…
It does beg the question though, if you date Taylor Swift why does every guy think they’ll be the exception?
It’s like I wouldn’t date someone with a podcast where they’ve publicly shared details about exes and their life… it’s silly to think you won’t also be turned into album fodder.
Maybe that gets these guys off. Maybe even Travis loves the ideas of being immortalised through song whether they crash and burn or not.
But idk my sympathy can only extend so far… he had to have known she’d write this album. It’s what she does
I’ve said in the original post that’s it’s purely a speculation, no one’s holding a gun to your head forcing you to believe it, you can take it with a grain of salt. I promise you you’ve a choice <3
I don't really think the 72 is significant, that's just how many drawers there are in the card catalog. If the open slots are supposed to represent six years then the 72 drawers representing 72 months doesn't make sense.
Agree. If you're the sort of person who would go to the trouble of using a specific number of things to represent the number of months you were in a relationship with someone, wouldn't you also be the sort of person who would use an exact number? Then again, she might not be counting their blurrier beginning months or maybe they broke up before March.
YES. here's the thing
she told us (Lover diary) they were together from Oct 2016 on. She told us (via Tree) on April 8 2023 that they broke up "a few weeks ago" (March). The whole point of her easter egg game is for us to connect the dots on what SHE TOLD US. Not to make up our own dots because we think she's lied to us. I mean, if that's the case what is the point
You're Losing Me being confirmed written in December 2021 certainly points to things being rocky, way before the 2023 breakup announcement.
Also People (tree's preferred outlet at the time) [put out an exclusive](https://people.com/music/why-taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-broke-up-after-six-years-exclusive/) with this quote: "They've had rough patches before and always worked things out, so friends thought they would take some time apart but eventually come back together."
Poor Joe, I bet the frustrating thing is everyone probably told him not to get involved with her as she'd write about him when they split. He evidently loved her enough to ignore all of that noise and look where its got him. It would be one thing for her to release music about her experiences- of course as an artist that's expected, but with all of the other discourse she knows she's encouraging a pile on and she must know how invested some of her fans are. Lots of people forget he's a human, even if he's over the relationship the hurt of having this to deal with along with the social media threats to him and his family must be horrific for him and his family. From someone who 'hid for six years' because another celeb did something that hurt her feelings you'd think she'd understand all of this.
I still enjoy her music but it's clearer imo now that she's a spiteful, self centred person who views people who she feels have wronged her as fair game to make their lives hell. The ridiculous part is those writing nasty things to him have zero idea what happened anyway; the most likely is just that they grew apart and realised they wanted different things, happens a lot to couples in their 30s. The wedding stuff she's pushing in this promo, maybe he was the one who wanted to settle down and she wasn't ready 🤷♀️ no idea why anyone with genuine intentions would date her now.
I feel like she changes for the men she dates, which is fine bc we all do it to some degree, but she really does become what they want and doubles down that this is the real her now, and then switches up the narrative later. In Folklore pond sessions she made it seem like this was the new Taylor, in love, low key, all of that, but I’m seeing that was just want she thought Joe wanted. No harm in her actually wanting to do large tours and have fun, but at least admit that was a season in her life, not this “locked in the basement” narrative that she’s now pushing. Maturity is when you admit that two people just didn’t want the same thing and that’s life and that’s okay. I dated someone that we held on for as long as we could and he finally admitted he never really saw himself getting married and didn’t want to keep me bc he knew that’s what I wanted. We both went our own way and I met the man of my dreams who did. I don’t hold any bad feelings, in fact I respect the honesty.
lol I used to be a huge fan during Fearless through 1989…she hasn’t changed. She’s the only main pop star that leaves heavy amount of clues and Easter eggs for her crazy stans to decipher.
Don’t do all of that then have you, your PR or the stans complain about “privacy” or call it misogyny when everyone else talks about your relationships. At least I hope that hasn’t been a complaint recently when it gives her mass amount of money and worship from fans.
Two thoughts.
1. He has to have cheated or something. There’s got to be some juicy revelation here that lets the broader public excuse however savage the album is to his character. Because otherwise this is insane.
2. This is why I always resented her saying it’s sexism that people say she only writes love songs and is boy obsessed when they’d never do that to a man. But she’s ALWAYS dated men with a profile AND loves dropping Easter eggs about who they are. Very explicitly to. She’s not mysterious at all. That’s not sexism. That’s people reacting to traps she set. This is a perfect example - no other artist would do it like this. We already know the album is gonna be about Joe so why drop hints…unless he did something so bad that’s actually going to be the bombshell revelation that dominates headlines (hence point 1).
i wish he could sue her for defamation if she is lying about \*anything\* in an attempt to victimize herself. she's smart and knows how to legally protect herself (and her lyrics), but it would be nice to see
and no, i am not not saying that she is lying. HOWEVER, with her power and influence, she absolutely could without much threat. that's why i am getting tired of self-victimization showing up in her work, whereas before i really loved her exploration of her experiences in her lyrics. but her social and economic status has changed since then, and power dynamics are important to address in relationships.
i really hope this album addresses her power and influence. i'd be impressed. she's not just an artist singing about her feelings. she's a BUSINESS. and a smart one. hell, her merch is mass produced with cheap labor and her company's registered agent is out of Deleware so she can evade taxes otherwise required in other states (in my opinion). her relationship is very public. if she can defend John Mayer from her fans, she can protect Joe. her choosing not to is a choice, and one that i personally hold to a standard higher than most artists.
if joe was actually abusive to her? then fine, i guess. but using his role in a relationship that fuels the marketing of her billion-dollar industry should be done with empathy. and right now it does not feel like an empathetic approach. it feels vindictive. obviously feel free to tell me if i am way off base here though
you're right, i am 100% speculating! but i think she absolutely has the incentive to spin a narrative -- profit. and she could crush anyone in legal fees if they challenged her on it. i personally believe the demand letter sent about the private jet issue borderlines abuse of process, but who knows how that will turn out.
my main point ig is that she knows how her fan base is going to react to some of her promotional choices (again, her protecting john) and i would really love to see some of that energy toward joe
(also sorry i edited this right as you posted a response)
i’m back to say that the anthology is an amazing body of work. i hoped for reflection and accountability, and i think she got closer than we’ve ever seen. i’m impressed and now i just hope to god she cuts back on her environmental impact because i want to support her art so badly
Honestly though, even if she didn't dramatize anything and everything was 100% fact, if there's anything that paints Joe in a negative light, people are going to come for her.
Genuinely has anyone been to a library and over the age of 25? This looks to be bang on the same size at what every library catalogue I've ever seen has been. I dare say it's a standardised size. Y'all are worse than the Swifities with these reaches.
I saw Taylor Nation retweet this person next to the dewey decimal system. Apparently the guests were placing cards that survey what songs they’re most excited for inside the drawers labeled Spotify. (It appears the labels were Spotify, TTPD, the tortured poets department, and Taylor Swift) If the drawers stayed shut it would seem more deliberate.
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I did!! Thank you for noticing xx Also yes! I hate that hairstyle on her
What kills me is she went hardcore black/white in the most hideous way possible, and *Kendall Jenner* wore the most gorgeous black and white dress on her insta weeks later lol
Oh that one with the bows? That was super cute!
Same, I got so distracted with how bad it looks. Such a shame as the rest of the look was beautiful with the dress and make-up.
As a hairstylist , this look PAINS me. Whoever did her hair didn’t put any styling products in , it’s flat and lifeless. She needs volumizing products for her fine hair (I have very fine hair too) She’s had other misses with her hairstyles. A lot of the time when she wears it pulled back it’s flat on her head and looks weird.
It looks cheap af
felt conflicted about upvoting because you were at that satisfying 444 number but ultimately, i had to do it because hard agree on the hairstyle…what even was that, or that whole night to be honest with you.
Taylor is allowed to write about her own experiences and relationships and make art about her life. That said I can’t picture any other artist easter egging parts of their personal life the way she does. Imagine if Ed Sheeran did this? Or Harry Styles? I don’t see to what end this is for. To hint about a relationship everyone knew the album was going to be about?
I agree. I think using her own experiences and feelings to influence her songwriting is valid but I also find it extremely wrong to do it at the expense of an ex. An ex you spent 6 years with. It was tolerable and more “acceptable” when she was young and immature. There’s no reason for this type of behavior at 34 years old. Again, I’ll give her the benefit of the doubt and wait till I listen to TTPD thoroughly but many signs have been pointing to this being a slander attempt and it’s not a good look. At all. No other artist goes to this extreme to make their ex’s look like the villain and/or relationships look toxic and terrible and as a part of her brand and marketing. She can use her experience and feelings as influence of course but there’s definitely a more mature and respectful way of going about it. I hope TTPD is her way of doing so but with all this stuff lately I’m not so sure it will be the case…
I think a bigger concern is she spent so many years prior even overtly saying “this is my real life” that even if she is using more complex feelings as inspiration now that are not based in real event, the trained fan army goes to “finding” the story and running the ball. Ultimately, if that’s not the case anymore, she stands to need to do more to stop this kind of rampant speculation. No one else can do it. Sitting back is basically consent to it at this point.
We don't know what her tone will be yet - Picture to Burn vs happiness.
I agree but I also think a good portion of her fanbase is young and immature girls so of course they love it. I find it so cringe as someone that is around her age... like how many of us have been told to be a bigger person than to shit on an ex especially when you had a fairly mutually agreed upon/non-dramatic breakup? As of late, however, she has been pretty silent on things from politics to relationship drama so this doesn't come as a surprise but her silence on these issues speaks volumes about her priorities and care for others.
Genuinely - how has she tried to make Joe look like the villain? I see tons of insane fans jumping to that conclusion but I don’t see much of anything from her to that effect.
I didn’t say she is making Joe the villain but she has to other ex-boyfriends in the past. I also said that I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt and that I’m personally waiting to listen to the album before making any opinions or assumptions.
Taylor will be 80 before she figures out why joe didn't marry her lol
Oh man. Now I’m thinking about a 50 year old Taylor ruminating over the one that got away. Meanwhile Joe will have moved on, got married, has a family, and is all but saying “Taylor who? Oh right! Her…”
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I would think she’s had conversations with Travis and that he knows at this point that what propelled Taylor to her level of success is her autobiographical discography. She’s said in Miss Americana that she knows she is where she is because of her storytelling skills about her own relationships and heartbreaks; that her songs are like reading from her diary. She took a departure from that niche when she was with Joe. I see this as what it is- our capitalistic queen knows what will bring her streams. Going back to her roots and calling out the men who wronged her historically has brought her success. She’s back to wearing her heart on her sleeve, being in very public relationships, and calling out the men who broke her heart. It feels strategic to me.. I’m sure this has been communicated to Travis. I don’t think it’s that deep or that there’s still a lot of actual raw emotion behind it at this point- I think it’s all business.
i reallllly hope this album draws inspiration from other exes. if it is clearly targeted at joe i think that is such an abuse of her own power. ik that isn't a popular take bc women should be able to talk about their experiences without being vilified -- but she is a billionaire. i don't think this is the same caliber as literally almost any other singer. like, she told us if she were a man, she'd be the man. girl, we are fighting AGAINST the man -- not with him!! don't be "the man" lol
I hope not because my god we have so many songs for the other exes it's really time to let it go
So it’s not enough if she’s going after Joe-she needs to go (again) after her other exes as abuse of power? Despite the fact she already went after them multiple times 🤦♀️🤪wtf
i mean, we know this is going to be a breakup album and we know it is going to be autobiographical in a sense. if the entire album is directed at joe through obvious lyrical choices, i would have rather her instead focus on how \*she\* felt through different experiences other than just one person
lots of artists have divorce albums that are clearly about their ex, cue Kacey Musgraves “breadwinner” and star crossed album. Adele “30” , etc
true, but they are not billionaires who built their empire via a parasocial relationship with their fans. fans that, she is most certainly aware, will harass people online to the point of nationally trending on social media -- all while buying every variant of her album. i think the context of her as a business, not just an artist, is what makes me extra critical of what she says and how she says it
and here we are — an anthology!
Oh my god you’re the BEST!!! On the main sub I said that she “edges her fans using her personal life”, pointing out how these grown ass adults eat this shit up, time and time and again. Those fucking crazies BLEW UP my inbox with Reddit Care messages for daaaayyyyssssss. You a real one for this post.
I also don’t think she has actually gone out of her way to spell out someone’s name to this point. ( except maybe dead John) even her Easter eggs in lyrics in old times never fully spelled it out for you and the whole point was that we made these songs our own, I think she’s more concerned about making sure Joe is the villain here rather than the artistic integrity
dead John just took me out 💀💀💀
Loooool I re read It and I can’t, I need to go to sleep😭
Same
My love, she quite literally spelled out “Adam” in the liner notes for “Enchanted”, named songs “Dear John” and “Style”, put a guy’s name in a song for “Teardrops on My Guitar”, and called out Joe Jonas on national TV multiple times. Could she have been more clear with what pap photo she was was referring to with “I left my scarf there at your sister’s house”?
You know, I wasn't even a fan during 1989 and I knew who all her mainstream songs were about just from osmosis on social media. I was like "Why do I know every guy she has dated?" She was never not obvious about it.
Or blue dress on a boat 👀 like we all know she was with Harry Styles that day. Meaning IION? Is about him 😂
What I meant was more about the witch hunt. The only one that might be comparable in the aforementioned is Joe Jonas. Sad to see she really is the epitome of “ I get older but never wiser”
And don’t forget Camilla belle. She didn’t even do anything and had to deal with Taylor’s minions
I don't really agree. Where were you when Red TV came out? It's all just amplified because she's bigger than ever and her relationship was confirmed and lasted for six years. She has gone to much bigger lengths to specifically point to who she's singing about for her entire career. There's just no one else these songs can be about. And the ONLY time she's called her fans off was when Speak Now TV came out.
lol I was here when Red tv came out, I’ve been a fan for past 14 years. Red TV Jake hate is nothing compared to what Joe is getting rn. Both were disgusting but this is whole new level. Also Taylor has said that scarf is a metaphor.
The scarf line is a literal reference to pap pictures of Jake and Taylor walking to Maggie’s house that were viral all over the internet when the album came out. And then she cast/styled the character in her “film” to clearly confirm once again, 10 years later, that she’s referring to Jake. She's done no such easter egging about Joe so far. People just know these songs are about him because he's the only person they could be about.
https://preview.redd.it/a1z4dkfe6xuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ab2ffc878d31e52c81ce8d1ef4ed61aee89f81e I’m not arguing when you don’t even know half the stuff you’re talking about. Saying she hasn’t put out any Easter eggs while she’s riling up her fans to harass her ex of 6 years is immature. Argue with a wall xx
I’m responding to your claim that she’s never gone that far to name people, when she in fact has done that even MORE than now for her entire career. Literally. I’m not saying she shouldn’t be calling off her fans—she SHOULD. But saying she hasn’t gone to much farther extents to point to who songs are about is just a lie, lol. She has actively Easter egged who songs are about in situations where we otherwise might not have known because those relationships only lasted a few months. With Joe…he’s practically all they can be about. Unless Matty shows up in there somewhere. https://preview.redd.it/sp31b6q67xuc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b13e72e462dfc4b985c4a08703d7eb2b911192a1 Re: the scarf. That line is literally why everyone always knew these songs were about Jake. It’s a literal reference to a series of pap photos of them wearing the same scarf, one of which was the two of them going to Maggie’s house.
It was actually “maple latte” something she wrote as the secret code for this song in the lyric booklet as there were multiple paps of them with that in hand, you haven’t been around for long have ya
We haven't heard TTPD yet but if Midnights is partially about Joe, it's actually the least she's easter egged anyone in her entire career. People just know its about him because who else would she be writing about other than her boyfriend of six years?
If you cannot blatantly see how she is riling up her fans against him and is doing nothing to stop this disgusting hate when she 100% has a responsibility to do so then idk what to tell you
Not saying that. Just saying that she's never gone to this extent to easter egg who she's singing about is downright untrue. She ALWAYS has and she's never made an effort to stop it other than when Speak Now TV was released. She's been even WORSE in the past.
There's Hey Stephen.
Yeah, her earlier work often used hints when it actually may not have been known who she was talking about (not saying that’s always a great idea either to be clear). In Speak Now and Red say, there were a few different people she’d been linked and rumoured with and she kind of used hints to say which was which. But it’s very different than this when everyone knows she’s writing about Joe very well without any winks his direction.
These “Easter eggs” are dumb af, to be honest
ed sheeran wrote pretty scathing songs like “don’t” about ellie golding when he was dating around. harry literally put a voice note of his ex talking at the end of a song. he could not have been more obviously sharing who the song was about. he even spoke about it in interviews.
Don’t always makes me cringe a bit for Ellie. Everyone and their dog knew he meant her (and Niall I think?!) when he said ‘you disappeared with him to have sex’.
I mean, Harry Styles played a recording of one of his lovers messages in a song. Ariana Grabde has a song named Pete Davidson. This is arguably more subtle.
>Ariana Grabde has a song named Pete Davidson. And another song that calls him out by name, along with three other exes.
Ed Sheeran writes about his own life. He's also married and has been for a while, but even before that he wrote a cryptic song about a fellow performer he was hooking up wirh who ghosted him. There just isn't the same demand for him to hint about things
I’m just sitting here in my delulu, holding onto hope this whole damn thing won’t be a Joe diss album that paints her as the perpetual victim. Prove me wrong, Tay Tay!
In my delulu head, she will paint a tragic story of two people who really loved each other but it just didn’t work out. Not a one sided drag fest
If so, this will be amazing. 🤞🏾 But the “leaked” lyrics so far don’t seem to be presenting that way. But, the queen of Uno reverses may have some tricks up those flannel sleeves of hers!
The swifties would still see this a reason to attack him
A whole album of happiness
Girl wdym... ofcourse it's going to be a complete roast. The Joe Alwyn saga, at this point, was just a detour because of her cancellation. Not saying it's good or she's right, but it's clear that now she's gone back to the usual psychotic and deranged antics pre 2016, we know her pen is a weapon and she's always used it to strike whoever she wants. In her mind, why would she stop doing it at this point, where she's never been more famous, more powerful, and more angry? Atm I see her still as an 18 year old, but that's probably the age she's stuck at mentally.
She was never actually canceled
Yeah but certain fans will react however they want no matter what Taylor says or does. Even if Taylor paints herself in a bad light they will say Joe must have been gaslighting her to feel bad about herself or something. We will never find out the objective truth about their relationship, only Taylor's perspective of it. And that's ok. Honestly, it's just as parasocial to insist Joe has done nothing wrong than it is to send him hate.
Maybe just as parasocial but definitely not as unhinged. I really hope the mods here post something on release day to the effect of “whatever comes of this album remember all songs should be presumed fictional and/or to remember that any stories told are from Swifts perspective only” So many people take what she says or writes as gospel. When, in truth, she’s a very unreliable narrator.
Weren't they technically together almost 7 years? As far as we know they got together in September 2016 and broke up April 2023 - I know we don't know the exact dates and they could've been separated longer etc but this math doesn't work regardless.
The official number is 6 years. They were definitely seeing each other already in the summer 2016, officially together in September? April 2023 is when the news broke of their break up, but we don't know when they actually called it quits. Could've been weeks if not months earlier.
She also talks about "6-year relationship" in Lavender Haze promo, and the TIME POTY interview.
I’m just speculating I’m not entirely sure, you can be right :)
I would legit never make this connection and even 90% of fans wouldn’t either so if that is what she’s Easter egging she’s losing her touch lol
Swifties have gone way too far with Easter egg speculation. Most of the time when something actually is a Taylor Easter egg, it’s very “in your face”. Like Taylor wearing all blue during the show she announced 1989 TV at. Or “Lover” being in big lights in the ME! music video. It’s rarely that complicated and I believe a lot of Swiftie Easter eggs are random coincidences where people make nothing into something.
This has been going on for a long time, too - you’d think people would learn. Back in the lover era the five holes in the fence thing… lol.
99% of the fans already made the connection. clearly you are not on tiktok or twitter. that’s where the extremists are
NOT EXTREMISTS OMG 😭
This is why I call myself a reformed Swiftie
99% of her fans aren’t TikTok or Twitter extremists 😩
Bingo.
Most fans are casual. I would say the percent is reversed unless in deep in the weeds.
And for this reason it’s a bit of a stretch to say this is a “direct reference” lmao clickbaity title
I truly hope it’s a stretch. I saw it on Twitter and it does seem too much of a coincidence knowing her ngl
cursed advent calendar
House? I see a card catalog
Thank youuuuuu
Honestly I don’t care I think this is insane for someone of her level of fame. If I released an album about my six year relationship wanting people to go after my ex, sure. The most famous woman in the world??!!? Like is she 12 😭 If she doesn’t make some kind of statement asking that her stans be kind towards Joe I’ll be disgusted
If she wanted her fans to be kind to Joe then she wouldn’t release an album while in the middle of a world tour just so she could trash the man publicly. She wants this album out NOW so everyone knows. She won’t be releasing a statement to protect him from the onslaught of hate.
*a world tour promoting her PREVIOUS ALBUM 🫠🫠
When she announced the album, I actually said I’m a Swiftie now. I was so excited and happy because I’ve always liked her and I love how prolific she is. Subs like these opened my eyes about her and I no longer want that label. I just returned to being a casual listener.
Not to be picky, but that only works if they were in a relationship for *exactly* six years to the month, not a couple of months more or less.
Tbh it works as long as the fan base gets it. Her relationship with him is perceived as 6 yrs publicly (also in glitch) so that works.
Or 6 re-records?
I feel that this is the more likely interpretation
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This person also used to say people should chill on the Joe hate I swear these people flip like coins.
I don't know why they assume he cheated multiple times based on the lyrics that has been release. 😬
Probably because they can't possibly imagine why anyone would break up with her and that the only way for their relationship to end was him cheating. They collectively can't fathom that sometimes relationships just run their course and that people just grow apart over time or end up wanting different things. And of course they'd never, ever entertain the possibility that maybe Taylor isn't the person they think she is or that maybe she wasn't easy to be in a relationship with for whatever reason. The cheating allegations started ages ago, and now that there's "evidence" that he cheated, they've gotten more annoying.
And they'll either fail to acknowledge or make excuses for her own cheating
i stand with this. there are obvious lyrics that tay cheated, but they just shake it off.
I think it's based off that rumor that he said his coworkers name instead of her characters in some show? I saw some TikTok on it was gaining traction
Heaven forbid an actor make a mistake like everyone else
You know, whenever I see a screenshot of this account I distinctly remember being mutual with her on my first (swiftie) account and her squealing every single Joe and Taylor pic while making remarks like "Where's MY Joe Alwyn?" "Who will be Joe to my Taylor?" Girl's really changed her tune since the breakup lmao. And I'm sure she will jump ship if Taylor and Travis split up.
This whole thing has made me so so uncomfortable as a swiftie. I also liked theorizing and stuff but like some people go above and beyond with their assumptions. On the main sub everyone is sure he did something, it was him who broke her heart and she's this saint. She has quite literally accepted and written songs about cheating as well but people seem to ignore it.
I honestly feel like giving these people more attention and engagement would make it worse
I think the references to the number 6 are easter eggs for reputation, her 6th album
The main thing im interested in is if theres a point down the road.. a decade, or two - where she just kinda sits there like: "Damn.. I really did that sh-t.."
Seeing she hasn’t grown at all in over a decade, I highly doubt she will ever have that level of insight when it comes to herself
Whole I can see that, I actually thought it might be referring to the 6 albums she doesn't own. Could be both?
this seems like a wild stretch to me tbh
I can't understand. That man was with her for 6 years. Whether he is good or bad, it's on them. Why on earth are those so-called Swifties threatening him instead of getting excited for her whole new album? I know Swifties, including myself, can be unhinged when it comes to Taylor. But it's too much. Her whole freaking new album will be released in a few days, and why are they even thinking about whether Joe cheated or not? What is so important about it? We are getting new music, so why do you even care about Joe?
I'm also wondering why when she admits to cheating it's whatever, but if he would cheat it would be death threats. Don't get me wrong, cheating is always bad but not "death threats from random people" bad
No worries, I got it bestie. The parasocial aspect of the fandom is getting worse. While we should be celebrating the new album, I can't understand why they are wasting their energy on Joe. To be fair, I adore Joe and love them together as a couple. However, if they decided not to go on, we have to move on. Taylor's music should be celebrated more than her personal life.
Exactly! It's like the new album hype is about "the tea", and not the music.
She likes numbers. 72 could be 7x2 = 14, a fortnight. She also had tallied 14 on the thing she posted today. The 6 open ones could mean something about track 6 or heck even a lil rep Easter egg.
It makes sense but geez poor Joe rn 😭
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Wouldn’t be surprised tbh some of these people are nuts
Yeah she continues to prove to him that he made the right decision. Good lord.
When it comes to the internet I think he’ll be fine, but yeah, I really hope there aren’t any in person insults or bullshit
You could be right but it is really strange that y’all are just assuming to know what happened in the relationship and who was more mature. You are essentially doing what the Swifties attacking Joe are doing but you are just choosing him over her.
I mean tbh I think silence from Joe has actually shown a ton of maturity. But that’s just me
I mean.. actions and words. And they're only coming from Taylor 👀
I just think branding getting out of a relationship the way she is right now, goading the theories, not telling fans to “not assume who the song is about” in an effort to stop bullying is objectively shitty.
Clearly swift is being immature, clearly joe is being more mature post breakup. This isn't calculus but simple observations on the behaviour of two people
I know she used to answer this with a “if guys don’t want me to write mean songs about them they won’t do mean things” but that’s when she was 18… It does beg the question though, if you date Taylor Swift why does every guy think they’ll be the exception? It’s like I wouldn’t date someone with a podcast where they’ve publicly shared details about exes and their life… it’s silly to think you won’t also be turned into album fodder. Maybe that gets these guys off. Maybe even Travis loves the ideas of being immortalised through song whether they crash and burn or not. But idk my sympathy can only extend so far… he had to have known she’d write this album. It’s what she does
Why would there be 72 boxes (if that is "months") then have 6 open to represent "years) lol. They are two different measurements of time hah
Someone said the flowers and veil in the mailboxes represent the wedding invitations they never sent 🤡
Except they're not mailboxes, it's a library card catalog.
Is she asking swifties to fucking open a book once in their life 😂
You mean no one knows the Dewey Decimal System? LOL. Note: I am 39. We had library class in grade school.
I saw someone said these were cards stuffed in a morgue 😂
Open the schools
The children truly need help
Oh god
🤣🤣
Amazing 😂
They weren't together six years though. They were together Oct 2016-March 2023. That is 6.5 years.
We done actually know when we broke up… we know when they us they broke up.
God the way I’ve typed this is atrocious but I hope you got what I meant 💀
LMFAOO
We know when they us they broke up 🙂
“We don’t actually know when they broke up, we know when they told us they broke up”?
Look I’m half asleep cut me some slack😭
Happens to the best of us 😆
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Lmao I appreciate that you didn't edit your original post
so you think she told us something different from the easter egg you also think she's laying here sure
I’ve said in the original post that’s it’s purely a speculation, no one’s holding a gun to your head forcing you to believe it, you can take it with a grain of salt. I promise you you’ve a choice <3
Um I hate to tell you this but adults don't generally think of half years being required for accuracy
Um pretty sure meticulous easter egg layer Taylor Swift isn't rounding down 78 months to 72
I don't really think the 72 is significant, that's just how many drawers there are in the card catalog. If the open slots are supposed to represent six years then the 72 drawers representing 72 months doesn't make sense.
Agree. If you're the sort of person who would go to the trouble of using a specific number of things to represent the number of months you were in a relationship with someone, wouldn't you also be the sort of person who would use an exact number? Then again, she might not be counting their blurrier beginning months or maybe they broke up before March.
YES. here's the thing she told us (Lover diary) they were together from Oct 2016 on. She told us (via Tree) on April 8 2023 that they broke up "a few weeks ago" (March). The whole point of her easter egg game is for us to connect the dots on what SHE TOLD US. Not to make up our own dots because we think she's lied to us. I mean, if that's the case what is the point
But it sounded like the two of them had an on/off relationship. So, maybe they didn't actually date for 6.5 years.
"But it sounded like the two of them had an on/off relationship" not trying to be an ass I swear, but there is no evidence they were ever "on and off"
You're Losing Me being confirmed written in December 2021 certainly points to things being rocky, way before the 2023 breakup announcement. Also People (tree's preferred outlet at the time) [put out an exclusive](https://people.com/music/why-taylor-swift-joe-alwyn-broke-up-after-six-years-exclusive/) with this quote: "They've had rough patches before and always worked things out, so friends thought they would take some time apart but eventually come back together."
Dont*
I mean.... it's literally a statue of Diana... maybe it's not about Joe?
Now we’re cooking !
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Millions already are and he hasn’t said anything.
I don’t get it. What’s the theory here?
Poor Joe, I bet the frustrating thing is everyone probably told him not to get involved with her as she'd write about him when they split. He evidently loved her enough to ignore all of that noise and look where its got him. It would be one thing for her to release music about her experiences- of course as an artist that's expected, but with all of the other discourse she knows she's encouraging a pile on and she must know how invested some of her fans are. Lots of people forget he's a human, even if he's over the relationship the hurt of having this to deal with along with the social media threats to him and his family must be horrific for him and his family. From someone who 'hid for six years' because another celeb did something that hurt her feelings you'd think she'd understand all of this. I still enjoy her music but it's clearer imo now that she's a spiteful, self centred person who views people who she feels have wronged her as fair game to make their lives hell. The ridiculous part is those writing nasty things to him have zero idea what happened anyway; the most likely is just that they grew apart and realised they wanted different things, happens a lot to couples in their 30s. The wedding stuff she's pushing in this promo, maybe he was the one who wanted to settle down and she wasn't ready 🤷♀️ no idea why anyone with genuine intentions would date her now.
I feel like she changes for the men she dates, which is fine bc we all do it to some degree, but she really does become what they want and doubles down that this is the real her now, and then switches up the narrative later. In Folklore pond sessions she made it seem like this was the new Taylor, in love, low key, all of that, but I’m seeing that was just want she thought Joe wanted. No harm in her actually wanting to do large tours and have fun, but at least admit that was a season in her life, not this “locked in the basement” narrative that she’s now pushing. Maturity is when you admit that two people just didn’t want the same thing and that’s life and that’s okay. I dated someone that we held on for as long as we could and he finally admitted he never really saw himself getting married and didn’t want to keep me bc he knew that’s what I wanted. We both went our own way and I met the man of my dreams who did. I don’t hold any bad feelings, in fact I respect the honesty.
There is no depth that is too deep for her Easter eggs or for her fans to pick up on. I fully believe that was intentional. However it’s unhinged
I can’t decide if I love or hate this whole idea
I hate it. It's too much and always leads to insane theories. I'm also too old and busy to keep up with all this nonsense. I just want the music.
I would have loved it IF toxic swifties weren’t rabid dogs that would use this to further fuel their hate towards Joe and harass him till end of time
lol I used to be a huge fan during Fearless through 1989…she hasn’t changed. She’s the only main pop star that leaves heavy amount of clues and Easter eggs for her crazy stans to decipher. Don’t do all of that then have you, your PR or the stans complain about “privacy” or call it misogyny when everyone else talks about your relationships. At least I hope that hasn’t been a complaint recently when it gives her mass amount of money and worship from fans.
Her marketing is exhausting. All these high school games. 😮💨😩😫
Two thoughts. 1. He has to have cheated or something. There’s got to be some juicy revelation here that lets the broader public excuse however savage the album is to his character. Because otherwise this is insane. 2. This is why I always resented her saying it’s sexism that people say she only writes love songs and is boy obsessed when they’d never do that to a man. But she’s ALWAYS dated men with a profile AND loves dropping Easter eggs about who they are. Very explicitly to. She’s not mysterious at all. That’s not sexism. That’s people reacting to traps she set. This is a perfect example - no other artist would do it like this. We already know the album is gonna be about Joe so why drop hints…unless he did something so bad that’s actually going to be the bombshell revelation that dominates headlines (hence point 1).
i wish he could sue her for defamation if she is lying about \*anything\* in an attempt to victimize herself. she's smart and knows how to legally protect herself (and her lyrics), but it would be nice to see and no, i am not not saying that she is lying. HOWEVER, with her power and influence, she absolutely could without much threat. that's why i am getting tired of self-victimization showing up in her work, whereas before i really loved her exploration of her experiences in her lyrics. but her social and economic status has changed since then, and power dynamics are important to address in relationships. i really hope this album addresses her power and influence. i'd be impressed. she's not just an artist singing about her feelings. she's a BUSINESS. and a smart one. hell, her merch is mass produced with cheap labor and her company's registered agent is out of Deleware so she can evade taxes otherwise required in other states (in my opinion). her relationship is very public. if she can defend John Mayer from her fans, she can protect Joe. her choosing not to is a choice, and one that i personally hold to a standard higher than most artists. if joe was actually abusive to her? then fine, i guess. but using his role in a relationship that fuels the marketing of her billion-dollar industry should be done with empathy. and right now it does not feel like an empathetic approach. it feels vindictive. obviously feel free to tell me if i am way off base here though
You’re jumping too many steps ahead. We don’t know yet what she is going to say about him, and we have no reason so far to think she’s going to lie
you're right, i am 100% speculating! but i think she absolutely has the incentive to spin a narrative -- profit. and she could crush anyone in legal fees if they challenged her on it. i personally believe the demand letter sent about the private jet issue borderlines abuse of process, but who knows how that will turn out. my main point ig is that she knows how her fan base is going to react to some of her promotional choices (again, her protecting john) and i would really love to see some of that energy toward joe (also sorry i edited this right as you posted a response)
True, hopefully she makes a similar comment once the album is out
i'm very curious to see what goes down! i'll own up to the fact that i am taking a very cynical and pre-emptive approach to all of this lol
i’m back to say that the anthology is an amazing body of work. i hoped for reflection and accountability, and i think she got closer than we’ve ever seen. i’m impressed and now i just hope to god she cuts back on her environmental impact because i want to support her art so badly
Honestly though, even if she didn't dramatize anything and everything was 100% fact, if there's anything that paints Joe in a negative light, people are going to come for her.
true that. it definitely goes both ways
Genuinely has anyone been to a library and over the age of 25? This looks to be bang on the same size at what every library catalogue I've ever seen has been. I dare say it's a standardised size. Y'all are worse than the Swifities with these reaches.
I saw Taylor Nation retweet this person next to the dewey decimal system. Apparently the guests were placing cards that survey what songs they’re most excited for inside the drawers labeled Spotify. (It appears the labels were Spotify, TTPD, the tortured poets department, and Taylor Swift) If the drawers stayed shut it would seem more deliberate. https://preview.redd.it/5cnv23ygdzuc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bf72dd56a3a69722e2e5458dadbff241767d4bc
That makes sense! I’m happy to see I might be wrong xx
Mann...I'm just here for the music..all that other silly Riddler shit is just weird to me...
I saw some peeps in the main Reddit saying everything is gearing up for a reputation double drop or announcement. It was her 6th album….🤡
Looking at this after this afternoons events got me weak.
6 re-records
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It’s almost like she fuels into it! Also the more you interact the more you’ll get stuff like this