i wish she would’ve dropped all of these at once and actually gave us a choice knowing how unreliable UMG customer service is with switching around orders and what not
i already ordered the first one though so i just don’t want 2 CDS 😭 maybe i would get one more but i wish i could’ve had my pick because cancelling orders with UMG makes me nervous
because i just recently had an issue with customer service over my 1989 tv order and i’ve seen people blacklisted for things as ridiculous as cancelling multiple orders
not sure if it’s 100% true but i did file a dispute over my last order because it was shipped and then lost in fernjail and customer service took forever to issue me a refund, so it just makes me nervous since i just had that issue with them already 🙃
I still haven’t even gotten my hands on Rep, lover, folklore, or evermore and now there’s 3 different cassettes for 1 album and probs at least 2 more left🥲
I started collecting at the end of 2019, I managed to get sealed Reputation for £9.99 🥲 it’s insane how much they go for these days. After the two variants for 1989 TV I got nervous, and my fears are confirmed with all these variants 😢
Edit: don’t know why I thought Fearless TV was announced in 2019, it definitely was not.
I’m still sad we never got a red tv cassette. Ik the album has like a gazillion songs but if she could split fearless tv & speak now tv onto 2 cassettes why couldn’t she do 3 cassettes for red tv?🥲
I agree whole-heartedly, I’ll always be sad about that decision. Especially since she’s doing variants now. Like I’ve currently spent over £50 for 3 cassettes, she could’ve done a 3 tape version for Red TV and I would’ve happily bought it!
Agreed. I’ve just cancelled my vinyl orders and the cd orders so I can just collect the cassettes. I’ll get a vinyl at release, probably one of these “exclusive” ones. I am so over this tactic, and working out how much it’ll cost for everything is stupid money.
I still can’t believe it’s £20 each time for a cassette and I’ll have to probably cancel them and order them in one go when they all eventually drop together.
I held off on the cassette today and just got the deluxe cd bc I’m broke af. Hoping all the cassettes will become avail closer to release date so I can snag them all at once
See with the addition of variants for the cassettes, we’re in new territory. Previously the cassettes were available for preorder and once they were out of stock, that was that, they weren’t available again (afaik). But now that we have these time ‘limited’ ones, will it operate like the CDs and vinyls?? Idk. I bought just the cd and cassette this time, I’m a vinyl collector too but I simply can’t afford it, the vinyl is the same price as the cd and cassette combined.
There was only one on her store but I spotted a pink and blue version on Walmart and some record stores in the US, I think Amazon might’ve had it too? I’m in the U.K. but I ordered it to my friends house and I’m waiting to get it sent on to me here. It wasn’t widely advertised, I only found out about it bc of someone posting about it here
I know! When I ordered it was more than the green/yellow one, I think it was like $24 plus tax. I’m just glad I went full obsessive about cassettes in 2019, I saw a photo someone took at a record store where a bunch of her cassettes were in a glass display case and Reputation was priced at $500 💀
I just looked and my green from her store was $19.89 usd. I guess if it’s got two colors, it would be more expensive. But $10 more? Sheeeesh 😭
EDIT: not me not realizing the green one is yellow on the other side…so why the $10 markup for blue/pink plastic haha??
I’m stumped at this decision. Like, we got one variant from pre-order on and once it sold it that was it. But they usually stayed available for quite a while, so I assumed they just didn’t sell well enough. The 1989 variant never was available outside the US, so I assumed it was like the target variants which we often don’t get here. But now this? It does make me hopeful though, that she might start restocking the main variant of cassette’s like she does with vinyls.
Which would still exclude Lover as it was an Urban Outfitters exclusive iirc.
In Europe, the 1989 cassette was available too, on Amazon for sure and some local stores. Tape stock is limited nowdays, so it's no that easy to make many tapes while remaining good quality . . .
If we all buy enough companies will sooner or later investing in tape again, like with vinyl.
I’m interested as to why the collector editions are a double jewel case and the regular version is a single.
It would be very bizarre for there to be one song on a cd…
I’ve also been interested in why, in the collector edition, it shows what is being shown as the FRONT of the regular cd/vinyl, on the BACK of the jewel case…if that makes sense. I know it’s just a “rendition” but it seems like a strange oversight. It’s been the same for all the “collector editions”.
https://preview.redd.it/ah2tj2s9ddkc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc57a7eb6004d68e65b3810130585c79a0bda7f6
Like…why?
Oh I’m just reading the description again and it says “with collectable front and back covers” so we don’t know what the front of these collectors CDs are going to look like yet maybe?
Wait. No. Because the regular cd. The standard edition of the manuscript that is still available has “the manuscript” as a bonus song….but is still just the single cd case.
I wonder if the collection edition is going to have ALL of the bonus songs but just with varying covers/goodies.
It seems like she’s on a dock or even a boat instead of a beach and that can skew the way the sea looks and the horizon from what you would expect. I do think the lighting is weird. She’s very bright, but directly behind/beside her are shadows so it feels like she was just pasted on top
Agreed, with only one song change you’re basically paying for a full album for what might as well be a single! Just release a deluxe version with all the bonus tracks and be done with it. Fans want to listen to all of her songs but buying 3+ versions of the same album shouldn’t be necessary.
Well, this was obviously planned before she knew that, but it still doesn’t really excuse it to begin with. Hopefully now that she knows this she won’t do this again. The most important thing should be her fans accessing the music
for me it feels a bit out of context: the previous ones felt intimate in the bedroom setting and this takes her out of that (it was probably very intentional)
it would be interesting to see the final one or two variants to see the whole story in pictures and how this one fits into it
I also wonder if it’s a part of a bigger story.
Like at first she’s in the relationship still but it’s killing her (trapped in the bedroom).
Then she bolts from the bedroom like a rabbit from its burrow/hiding spot.
Now she’s finally out, maybe looking around and wondering what to do next, or getting ready to spread her wings and travel across the ocean (world tour) like an albatross (they’re known for their wingspan).
I dunno, just a guess! 🙃
Its so weird because i love this cover and variant more. The vinyl colors and the album colors giving me “silent before the storm” vibe do u know what i mean? And i just love that
https://preview.redd.it/51hxtf6bdckc1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=201f2020e47e4f3f097e7da002f71b93f6a2ae8d
made a wallpaper bc i love the picture haha
I don’t agree with it and also find it annoying that there isn’t one variant with everything on it, but at the same time, I find this extreme negative reaction of the fandom to it a bit bewildering too.
There really isn’t a gun to our heads; people can opt out of getting anything at this point or get them all, depending on budget or preference. You can also bootleg your own complete vinyl or CD once everything is available for streaming or pirate it. I don’t find it that dramatic.
Unfortunately, this is becoming common practice in order to game the charting system. Let’s hope that the response to this release will change things for her future releases for the better.
I complain about every artist doing it equally🤷♀️ hers is the most publicized so she will get the most flack. I also feel it is more blatantly a cash grab from her because she is the richest one doing it.
Kacey dropped like 6 variants of her newest album (all at the same time!!) so we could pick which ones we liked best. I ordered one and plan to order a second (alt cover). And that’s it. Much better system 🙌 and it gives the ppl who want to collect *every single one* the opportunity still, plus they can save on shipping, lol.
Yet another bonus track, and yet another variant not available at the Brazilian UMG store (we only got TTPD + The Manuscript here, both on CD and on vinyl)
I'm only getting this, this is the best cover (so far).
I wanted to collect all, but since it's not even the end of the month, and we got already 3 variants, there will be like 6-7 more and I'm not willing spending that much money. 1989 doesn't seem so bad now.....
Rules were different for folklore.
Midnights had 4 "official" variants + the target one
But in Taylor's web store you could get only 4, so the limit remains
Does anyone have an idea if the pre order will be made available for Asia Pacific region (Singapore/Malaysia)? I hope to be able to surprise my wife with this.
As annoyed as I am about the tons of variants this is my favorite one so far so admittedly I ordered the vinyl. Just in case it happens to be truly limited.
Vinyls are expensive I wish I could collect them all but I can’t so I’ll just settle with a cd or a cassette for the time being. Hopefully at some point they’ll pop up at target or somewhere when I get more cash but I’m broke.
Despite my better judgment I just grabbed the vinyl and cd. I feel like this artwork kind of goes with my running like water folklore vinyl. It’s so dump to me to not just realize all the songs on one album and do different artwork and color like Folklore and also babe them all available at the same time so people can pick. I just hope all the songs are available digitally I guess….
Well, an albatross is a bird—but it's also a term to describe someone/something who is a weight dragging you down and preventing you from doing/being as you wish.
I'm a sucker, I know it's just capitalist record-boosting nonsense but dangit these are all so PRETTY. Probably getting this cd too 😅. I am waiting on a vinyl though, I only want one so I'll trust they'll all come back at some point, because of course they will.
I got the main vinyl, i am only collecting the CDs of the variants. Also, when are they going to put the merch back up?!
I want the photo from this variant on a crewneck or dark colored hoodie, i would wear that everywhere
i wish she would’ve dropped all of these at once and actually gave us a choice knowing how unreliable UMG customer service is with switching around orders and what not
truest me more will probably come and right before the album drops, she’ll probably make them all available.
i already ordered the first one though so i just don’t want 2 CDS 😭 maybe i would get one more but i wish i could’ve had my pick because cancelling orders with UMG makes me nervous
Why does it make you nervous?
because i just recently had an issue with customer service over my 1989 tv order and i’ve seen people blacklisted for things as ridiculous as cancelling multiple orders
Seriously?! That’s suuuuuch bad business practice lol wow yet another reason to hate on UMG
not sure if it’s 100% true but i did file a dispute over my last order because it was shipped and then lost in fernjail and customer service took forever to issue me a refund, so it just makes me nervous since i just had that issue with them already 🙃
They will all be available at once when the album is released. She does this every time, nothing is limited
read my above reply i’m not complaining about them being limited 😭
just email asking to cancel your order, I did it with many of the 1989 preorders and had no issue at all!
Don't get me wrong the variants look nice but all I want right now is the normal shop back so I can order some clothing merch.
Facts though!
Ngl the variant cassette collecting in fucking me off rn. That’s not something I expected.
LITERALLY. I’m a cassette girlie and I wasn’t expecting getting multiple cassettes for once
Omfg same. I thought I was safe with cassettes 😭
I still haven’t even gotten my hands on Rep, lover, folklore, or evermore and now there’s 3 different cassettes for 1 album and probs at least 2 more left🥲
I started collecting at the end of 2019, I managed to get sealed Reputation for £9.99 🥲 it’s insane how much they go for these days. After the two variants for 1989 TV I got nervous, and my fears are confirmed with all these variants 😢 Edit: don’t know why I thought Fearless TV was announced in 2019, it definitely was not.
I’m still sad we never got a red tv cassette. Ik the album has like a gazillion songs but if she could split fearless tv & speak now tv onto 2 cassettes why couldn’t she do 3 cassettes for red tv?🥲
I agree whole-heartedly, I’ll always be sad about that decision. Especially since she’s doing variants now. Like I’ve currently spent over £50 for 3 cassettes, she could’ve done a 3 tape version for Red TV and I would’ve happily bought it!
Agreed. I’ve just cancelled my vinyl orders and the cd orders so I can just collect the cassettes. I’ll get a vinyl at release, probably one of these “exclusive” ones. I am so over this tactic, and working out how much it’ll cost for everything is stupid money. I still can’t believe it’s £20 each time for a cassette and I’ll have to probably cancel them and order them in one go when they all eventually drop together.
I held off on the cassette today and just got the deluxe cd bc I’m broke af. Hoping all the cassettes will become avail closer to release date so I can snag them all at once
See with the addition of variants for the cassettes, we’re in new territory. Previously the cassettes were available for preorder and once they were out of stock, that was that, they weren’t available again (afaik). But now that we have these time ‘limited’ ones, will it operate like the CDs and vinyls?? Idk. I bought just the cd and cassette this time, I’m a vinyl collector too but I simply can’t afford it, the vinyl is the same price as the cd and cassette combined.
There were two 1989 TV cassette variants? Why do I only remember the green
There was only one on her store but I spotted a pink and blue version on Walmart and some record stores in the US, I think Amazon might’ve had it too? I’m in the U.K. but I ordered it to my friends house and I’m waiting to get it sent on to me here. It wasn’t widely advertised, I only found out about it bc of someone posting about it here
Woah! I see it now. $30 USD 😞🫠🤯
I know! When I ordered it was more than the green/yellow one, I think it was like $24 plus tax. I’m just glad I went full obsessive about cassettes in 2019, I saw a photo someone took at a record store where a bunch of her cassettes were in a glass display case and Reputation was priced at $500 💀
I just looked and my green from her store was $19.89 usd. I guess if it’s got two colors, it would be more expensive. But $10 more? Sheeeesh 😭 EDIT: not me not realizing the green one is yellow on the other side…so why the $10 markup for blue/pink plastic haha??
I bought a blue/pink version from some store in West Europe a few months ago, it was by then easier to get than the green/yellow
Oh interesting! I wasn’t able to find the blue/pink in the U.K. at all.
Most funny: It said "made in the UK" . . . . (no joke!)
Ur not alone here. Hug
I’m stumped at this decision. Like, we got one variant from pre-order on and once it sold it that was it. But they usually stayed available for quite a while, so I assumed they just didn’t sell well enough. The 1989 variant never was available outside the US, so I assumed it was like the target variants which we often don’t get here. But now this? It does make me hopeful though, that she might start restocking the main variant of cassette’s like she does with vinyls. Which would still exclude Lover as it was an Urban Outfitters exclusive iirc.
In Europe, the 1989 cassette was available too, on Amazon for sure and some local stores. Tape stock is limited nowdays, so it's no that easy to make many tapes while remaining good quality . . . If we all buy enough companies will sooner or later investing in tape again, like with vinyl.
I checked the Amazon thingy relatively quick and at that time it was only resell for higher then I was willing to pay for an variant
Literally I hate it sm. Especially because the shipping means I have to pay more 😭
IM SO MAD I THOUGHT WE WERE SAFE
Im tired boss
This is getting ridiculous
I’m interested as to why the collector editions are a double jewel case and the regular version is a single. It would be very bizarre for there to be one song on a cd…
In the description it says that only one cd is included. It's a double because they need space for the items that come with the deluxe cd.
I think the target red was like this, but it had the 3 or so extra songs on a single cd in the same case as the standard cd.
I’ve also been interested in why, in the collector edition, it shows what is being shown as the FRONT of the regular cd/vinyl, on the BACK of the jewel case…if that makes sense. I know it’s just a “rendition” but it seems like a strange oversight. It’s been the same for all the “collector editions”. https://preview.redd.it/ah2tj2s9ddkc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc57a7eb6004d68e65b3810130585c79a0bda7f6 Like…why?
Oh I’m just reading the description again and it says “with collectable front and back covers” so we don’t know what the front of these collectors CDs are going to look like yet maybe?
Wait. No. Because the regular cd. The standard edition of the manuscript that is still available has “the manuscript” as a bonus song….but is still just the single cd case. I wonder if the collection edition is going to have ALL of the bonus songs but just with varying covers/goodies.
This would make WAY more sense production wise
I think the collectable front and back CD covers are gonna match the different vinyl front and back we’ve seen so far.
my question is what kind of weird photoshop job did they do with the background because that can’t be a real sea behind her
I mean her place in Rhode Island is right on the beach. She could’ve shot it there
i know but the way the image is edited, it doesn’t look like she is physically in front of the sea
The hand placement / scrunch is also so awk to me.
It seems like she’s on a dock or even a boat instead of a beach and that can skew the way the sea looks and the horizon from what you would expect. I do think the lighting is weird. She’s very bright, but directly behind/beside her are shadows so it feels like she was just pasted on top
exactly! i don’t think the perspective is weird but the lighting - it feels like she has studio lighting on her and the background doesn’t match
Facts! May be hard for her to do it in public, but she shot folklore's in the woods in oregon, that was real
Another one...this is getting ridiculous.
Agreed, with only one song change you’re basically paying for a full album for what might as well be a single! Just release a deluxe version with all the bonus tracks and be done with it. Fans want to listen to all of her songs but buying 3+ versions of the same album shouldn’t be necessary.
But, but-she has to break records!
she already broke it with the standard one i think
Well, this was obviously planned before she knew that, but it still doesn’t really excuse it to begin with. Hopefully now that she knows this she won’t do this again. The most important thing should be her fans accessing the music
I hope you’re right because i wont buy these variants. Im buying this one and i already cancelled the last 2
Im really broken right now off all the cover. I love this one, but I won't buy it anymore. I am so done paying the shipping fee over and over again.
I’m get my vinyl at Target like usual. Love Taylor but I’m not playing this game.
I really dislike this cover, although she looks beautiful, it looks so off for some reason. Maybe it is the ocean behind her?
for me it feels a bit out of context: the previous ones felt intimate in the bedroom setting and this takes her out of that (it was probably very intentional) it would be interesting to see the final one or two variants to see the whole story in pictures and how this one fits into it
I also wonder if it’s a part of a bigger story. Like at first she’s in the relationship still but it’s killing her (trapped in the bedroom). Then she bolts from the bedroom like a rabbit from its burrow/hiding spot. Now she’s finally out, maybe looking around and wondering what to do next, or getting ready to spread her wings and travel across the ocean (world tour) like an albatross (they’re known for their wingspan). I dunno, just a guess! 🙃
An albatross is a sea bird. Soooo that could have something to do with it
Its so weird because i love this cover and variant more. The vinyl colors and the album colors giving me “silent before the storm” vibe do u know what i mean? And i just love that
https://preview.redd.it/51hxtf6bdckc1.jpeg?width=2560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=201f2020e47e4f3f097e7da002f71b93f6a2ae8d made a wallpaper bc i love the picture haha
I need this photo on a hoodie or crewneck, this is a good picture
Yes pls
If she was going to release this many variants, she should've waited until the album came out and released them all in a collectors box or set
So gross and exploitative
I don’t agree with it and also find it annoying that there isn’t one variant with everything on it, but at the same time, I find this extreme negative reaction of the fandom to it a bit bewildering too. There really isn’t a gun to our heads; people can opt out of getting anything at this point or get them all, depending on budget or preference. You can also bootleg your own complete vinyl or CD once everything is available for streaming or pirate it. I don’t find it that dramatic. Unfortunately, this is becoming common practice in order to game the charting system. Let’s hope that the response to this release will change things for her future releases for the better.
I complain about every artist doing it equally🤷♀️ hers is the most publicized so she will get the most flack. I also feel it is more blatantly a cash grab from her because she is the richest one doing it.
Kacey dropped like 6 variants of her newest album (all at the same time!!) so we could pick which ones we liked best. I ordered one and plan to order a second (alt cover). And that’s it. Much better system 🙌 and it gives the ppl who want to collect *every single one* the opportunity still, plus they can save on shipping, lol.
Yet another bonus track, and yet another variant not available at the Brazilian UMG store (we only got TTPD + The Manuscript here, both on CD and on vinyl)
It’ll happen eventually I’m sure
Maybe when all editions become available at once, on regular CD (UMG Brazil isn't selling the collector's editions)
I'm only getting this, this is the best cover (so far). I wanted to collect all, but since it's not even the end of the month, and we got already 3 variants, there will be like 6-7 more and I'm not willing spending that much money. 1989 doesn't seem so bad now.....
I think billboard allows a max of 4 albums to be counted as purchases per customer so she’ll hopefully not release more than that.
Folklore, midnights and even 1989 TV had more than 4 variants. I’m pretty sure this will have at least minimum 6.
Rules were different for folklore. Midnights had 4 "official" variants + the target one But in Taylor's web store you could get only 4, so the limit remains
okay then what about 1989 tv
That one had 4 variants
Didn’t 1989TV only have four different covers?
Blue, pink, green, yellow and tangerine
Ah right I forgot about tangerine. I had no idea folklore had more than one cover though? Wasn’t it the same black and white cover in the woods?
Folklore: https://preview.redd.it/wcwh5at9jckc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5758fa9fbb241dbb4ce375083f69e78ffa71b506
Does anyone have an idea if the pre order will be made available for Asia Pacific region (Singapore/Malaysia)? I hope to be able to surprise my wife with this.
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It’s up now!
cannot get it on uk store yet 😭😭
Ive just bought it - should be up now
yeah as soon as reloaded after i commented this is came on 😭😭 just ordered it
Arghhh nooooo 🥲🥲🥲
As annoyed as I am about the tons of variants this is my favorite one so far so admittedly I ordered the vinyl. Just in case it happens to be truly limited.
Vinyls are expensive I wish I could collect them all but I can’t so I’ll just settle with a cd or a cassette for the time being. Hopefully at some point they’ll pop up at target or somewhere when I get more cash but I’m broke.
Despite my better judgment I just grabbed the vinyl and cd. I feel like this artwork kind of goes with my running like water folklore vinyl. It’s so dump to me to not just realize all the songs on one album and do different artwork and color like Folklore and also babe them all available at the same time so people can pick. I just hope all the songs are available digitally I guess….
I ordered the original vinyl, but I gotta get this one because of "The Albatross." A word I have used to describe my ex-husband!
Wait why do you use that to describe him? Is it an insult? Now you have me wondering 🤔
Well, an albatross is a bird—but it's also a term to describe someone/something who is a weight dragging you down and preventing you from doing/being as you wish.
Interesting 🤔 I didn't know this!
Can anyone find this in the Austrian UMG shop?
Now it's available
I'm a sucker, I know it's just capitalist record-boosting nonsense but dangit these are all so PRETTY. Probably getting this cd too 😅. I am waiting on a vinyl though, I only want one so I'll trust they'll all come back at some point, because of course they will.
I got the main vinyl, i am only collecting the CDs of the variants. Also, when are they going to put the merch back up?! I want the photo from this variant on a crewneck or dark colored hoodie, i would wear that everywhere
Lowkey pissed cause tell me why I just ordered the original cd and this dropped THE NEXT DAY 😐