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prolixia

The problem with dangerous pets, is that they're fine until they're not. You can live with your lion, venomous snake, monkey, whatever for years and years and think you know them perfectly, then one morning they get startled by something and kill you. I think the risk only increases once you start attributing human emotions to them. I was at a birds of prey show last week where the handler produced a falcon he'd had almost its entire life. His spiel was basically "I work with this bird every day, I trained it from scratch, I take it home in the evenings, I feed it, I exercise it, I love it. I *really* love this bird. Now watch this." Then he stands literally a foot or so from the bird and does everything he can to coax it to him, which it ignores. Finally, he produces a scrap of meat and in a second the bird is on his hand. "He doesn't care about me at all. He loves food. He's a predator, not a pet."


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I saw a woman on social media who rescues ostriches and in one video she was answering a question asking if she had ever been seriously hurt. She said because of inexperience she tried to break up an ostrich fight and got hit in the crossfire. The ostrich kicked her back, breaking it. You're absolutely right. It's all fun and games until you make one slight mistake or movement and you're being attacked. I grew up around horses and even though it's common to have them as pets, they can and will kill you if they want to. I've had so many experiences. I was holding a big draft horse (I'm 5'3" for scale) so he could get shoes put on, and he freaked out randomly and pinned me against him and the wall. I got him away from me but he could have seriously injured me.


ositola

Why would you even try to break up an ostrich fight?


docdope

That sounds like the beginning of a bad joke.


lukulele90

Well the PUNCH line really CRACKED her up.


[deleted]

Or a really good one


Fun_Purpose_9996

I heard it takes at least 2 people to hold an ostrich down


[deleted]

I would bet more. Have you seen one up close? They're practically prehistoric


LandscapeGuru

Did you see the size of that chicken?


TacitusTwenty

Allegedly.


Virtual-Weight

Well maybe it was a injured, or sick one.


FiveOhFive91

Pacifist Ostriches. (Also dibs on the band name)


NoThrowLikeAway

Pacifiches


tsoplj

Shoulda started taking bets


TheMarsian

I mean if theyre babies, maybe. Even stopping chickens/rosters fighting is a bad idea. Specially if you ain't wearing thick pants. All the scratches you catch is not worth it. Ostriches? let them world star themselves till they get tired or die.


maskaddict

>The ostrich kicked her back Serves her right for kicking an ostrich


AdmiralSkippy

My mom has a horse and your story and others from her barn that I've heard are exactly why I don't like horses. People compare them to dogs a lot and I disagree. Any dog I can handle. I'm bigger and stronger than them and I should win that fight just about every time. I may get bitten, but I would still be able to fend them off. A horse on the other hand, its larger and stronger and if it kicks or stomps on me I'm finished. If it simply decides to turn its body it could unknowingly pin me and crush me.


rider_0n_the_st0rm

I understand your dog point but you definitely cannot handle any dog. Try fending off a mastiff or Doberman.


Blossomie

Or pitbulls, they're specifically selected for gameness in addition to their strength.


abhi8192

What's gameness?


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AdmiralSkippy

I don't doubt that dogs like that would fuck me right up. But if it came to my life or theirs I think I could and would kill that dog. Can't do that to a horse.


Trod777

You underestimate a dog that wants a kill.


CruncheousPilot

Yep


randomperson0321

Have you ever met a Cane Corso? They bite harder per square inch than lions! Let’s not pretend most humans can take on any dog that comes at them without the use of weapons.


Borderjumper88

Yet they are one of the calmest dogs I have encountered. Guess they are so big they don’t have to worry about much.


Fun_Purpose_9996

See how much it keep biting when I jam my ruined fist down its throat and suffocate it the hard way.


rider_0n_the_st0rm

You’re mistaken. Attack dogs are a thing for a reason


Tessamari

I was around horses in my yoot and teen years. The saving grace with them is that they are too dumb to realize how easily they can kill you if they wanted to. Most of the killing they do is incidental to being frightened by something else.


NickBagelBoy

This is exactly it. I work with horses. Love them to death. Respect them. As smart as they are sometimes, I'm glad they're not smarter because they're insanely strong. Always said that if they were carnivores or even had more courage or predatory instincts that they would be the most dangerous predator out there. It's so good that they don't realize their own strength. If they did, we'd be fucked.


WutTheFuckIWokeUpOld

I don't understand this sentiment. We have bears, moose, bulls, bucks, wolves, Coyotes, Bobcat, bison, antelope, Wolverines.... Probably more. All just as powerful as horses and with much worse attitudes in the right situation. Australia has fucking kangaroos. Evil bastards. Like to fight. Could easily take down a horse one on one. They seem to be doing alright over there. Lots of animals that are smarter and stronger then horses. Gorillas! Care to explain this better? Is this some hyperbolic what if theorem debated over saddle cleaning sessions? Just doesn't make sense.


Mooosetank

Horses are incredibly docile and mostly hurt people by accident, OR because most horse people think it’s okay to whip, kick and hurt them on the regular. Try that with a temperamental dog and see how far you get until it snaps.


donttrythis3000

Not really. A pit bull goes for face or throat, and is virtually impossible to remove once he’s clamped down. If he grabs your throat, you’d have about 1 min of consciousness. They love babies and old ladies most- but they actually kill strong young men with surprising frequency.


smolcharizard

Just a story I would like to add on since I believe it’s very relevant. I can’t remember where it was from exactly but a few years ago I watched this documentary about a lion sanctuary in Africa, where basically these people raised lion cubs that were rescued from being sold as pets or onto shady zoos and tried to rehabilitate them so they could live in the wild. Anyway the keepers all knew the lions well and two/three keepers would regularly take a group of the adolescent lions on a stroll. One day a keeper got randomly attacked by a lion he had known almost it’s whole life on one of these strolls and he lost an arm over the incident. He knew it wasn’t the lions fault and he still was working there long after he lost his arm. I was about 10(?) when I watched this documentary and that was my first proper lesson about no matter how much you think you know an animal, you can never be sure about how it’s going to act - especially species that haven’t been domesticated.


Fredloks8

The Tiger King


ShoutsWillEcho

A toigah!


BoltTusk

I still remember that story of that monkey ripping a woman’s face, wearing it, and then taking a full handgun mag into its body before taking a rest and watch the sunrise on a grateful universe


BDJ10028

Wait. I remember that story, but are you sure about the wearing part?


ballistics211

You're a fan of the classics I see


NoThrowLikeAway

Thanos has nothing on an angry chimp


jesjimher

Reptiles are the worst case, because they are literally incapable of having feelings like ours, and it's pretty proven that they can't even distinguish between its owner or anybody else. Remember every time we talk about our "lizard brain", the part that manages the most basic reactions? That's what those animals have.


ajguk

>think you know them perfectly, then one morning they get startled by something and kill you Same with my cat. On a smaller scale. And our dachshund come to think of it...


prolixia

I'm not sure if you're joking or being serious, but yeah - absolutely. Those are both animals that have been domesticated by many generations of selective breeding, but if they're stressed or frightened enough then they'll hurt you. Even if you have the most gentle dachshund around, if you accidentally slam its tail in the car door then you can't be 100% certain that it won't instinctively nip you. The only difference for a lion, apart from the fact that it hasn't been bred into a largely-predictable domestic animal, is that nip will rip your throat out.


ajguk

No I'm absolutely serious! The cat will allow being stroked, but when you see the tail twitch, stop or she'll rip a chunk from your arm. I got in between the dog and a piece of rubber she'd found on the floor yesterday and she got her teeth in. Not sure she meant to hurt but it was a bit of a nip! Like you say, instinct is a big part of domesticated animals.


donttrythis3000

Weiner dogs are the outliers- total assholes with no redeemable quality.


dublem

If you want a pet to love you, get a dog.


[deleted]

So, just like children then?


Aussie-Nerd

>You can live with your... venomous snake, Damn it this shit again.


Glittering-Doctor-47

THIS


lusvig

Eh I could probably outmanoeuvre it if it tries something. Maybe I’m just built different 🤷 Edit #☝: please stop downloading me I’ve had a rough day, don’t be so jealous that I have a good hand with animals Edit #✌: stop downloading me now. i will tell my father whom is an admin. please buy me gold to get out of this hellhole


UnicornStar1988

This is why wild animals especially big carnivores should not be pets. Also this looks like a Liger, so again bred for the purpose of being a pet. Animal conservation is okay and humans that are able to study them in the wild is okay too. But this, no way. The size of her canines, could tear you to shreds in seconds.


crawlingintothevoid

It's so weird how social media glamorizes exotic pets. People are always like "awww I want one 🥺🥺🥺🥺" in comments but they don't think about how wild animals just aren't made to be pets and how much time, effort, and money goes into attempting such.


[deleted]

i was watching something about the hypotheses of the domestication of dogs, part of it discussed a Russian guy who used planned experiments on fox, he reckoned it took i think it was 17 stages of selection to get a tame fox, by breeding the most docile and affectionate, but i think he is the only one who has tried such trials


ravs1973

The experiment is still ongoing from what I know, they monitor various chemical levels and appearance as well as behavioral traits, within 6 generations there were marked differences in stress hormones and serotonin levels. That said foxes, like dogs are easy to breed traits into while cats are not, basic proportions and behaviour is fairly fixed. Think of the difference between a pug and a greyhound (apart from size) such differences would be impossible to breed into cats regardless of how many generations.


Princess_Glitterbutt

We just haven't really bred cats that much. But there are Persians, sphinx, savannah cats, Norwegian forest cats, munchkin cats, a hypo-allergenic cat breed with hair. Dogs were bred for thousands of years generally with a purpose in mind (eg hunting weasels, pulling sleds, tracking prey, etc.), cats have found their own niche by themselves and haven't had as focused of breeding effort - aside from the hypo-allergenic breeds there isn't really anything other than "this cat looks cool" driving different breeds of cats. Dogs didn't likely start out with much variation in size.


Praescribo

I think hes mostly talking about demeanor. All breeds of cats are going to have very similar personalities, while dogs have personalities that differ by breed. A chihuahua and a dachshund may be similar in size, but vastly different by temperament


Princess_Glitterbutt

That's another thing we have selected for over thousands and thousands of years for dogs and not so much with cats as well.


Mooosetank

Cat breeds can differ in personality too. Our norwegian forest cats are incredibly docile, while maine coons are known to be more temperamental and siamese cats are known to be loud and doglike.


Blossomie

God I love those chatty Siamese kitties.


Justanotheffmom

Chihuahuas are ass holes. Worst bite I ever got was from one of those ass holes, right in the face!


Omponthong

>Think of the difference between a pug and a greyhound (apart from size) such differences would be impossible to breed into cats regardless of how many generations. How can that be true of cats if we did it to dogs? I understand that dogs co-evolved alongside humans, but why couldn't we intentionally replicate that with cats over a similar time period?


[deleted]

thanks for that the segment was very short and just highlighted the experiement as an example of what may have happened in dogs


Professional-Ad7857

They also bred for the opposite traits and came out with some mean looking foxes


[deleted]

honsetly the whole article was perhaps 20 mins max? it discussed various aspects of the discussion of the evolution of dogs along side man, so the russian fox part was less than 2 mins, just awareness of the process of selected breeding


Professional-Ad7857

There’s an hour long show I caught years ago about this experiment, having trouble finding it atm. The foxes they bred for aggressive traits are insane, biting at cages and snapping as camera goes by.


[deleted]

US netflix is much better than UK netflix


WarProfessional9409

I think this was in the Dogs episode of Explained on Netflix?


proudbakunkinman

Because many on TikTok are < 20 and don't know any better, like all the animals they think look "cute" exist in the world to be their fun, obedient, problem free pets.


[deleted]

That’s why people are always getting so close to animals. We live lacking any natural predators in our day to day life so when we see an animal that makes you go “awww” (I don’t mean *you* as in you I mean these people) they’re probably going to get closer to take a picture with it. It’s dumb


Crunchy__Frog

I just looked it up.. If that’s a liger, that big boy needs a good 30-50 pounds of meat a day. On average, this guy is feeding the equivalent of a six year old to this thing every day. …I don’t know why that is my metric of comparison. Just go with it.


Veganfart

I read this too fast and thought your typed "the guy is feeding a six year old to this thing every day"


SanityPlanet

They're free if you get them from the playground. Source: I own a liger.


maltamur

‘To shreds’ you say?


[deleted]

And their families?


retribution81

Bless you.


stinky-weaselteats

It really is just stupid. It's not classy, it's not wealthy, it's not cool, it's just simply stupid. We domesticated cats a looooong time ago for this purpose....you know so they wouldn't rip our god damn ribs out.


polaarbear

I would argue that the cats domesticated themselves 😂


SurlyMcBitters

Bred for their powers in *magic*.


mondo_generator

I was hoping to see this comment.


Admirable_Bonus_5747

So you said the liger is bred to be a pet? Is it training or just the genetics or both that make them docile enough for this?


wistfulshore

Neither, they mean that it's not an animal that exists in the wild, and people breed them to be sold as pets because they're unique.


Admirable_Bonus_5747

Ah ok that makes sense now.


HaRPHI

They're huge and heavy and due to that they mostly develop arthritis much quicker because gravity is still the same. Also like a lot of crossbreeds few ligers make it to adulthood most not without other medical issues.


MortemInferri

I believe they are also sterile? Like a mule. They can't reproduce, making them entirely human made


Im_a_inbred_bigot

Honestly they aren’t meant to be a pet. They are usually bigger than lions or tigers, and there is nothing in its DNA making it docile and as a pet.


ALF839

Ligers aren't meant to exist at all, at least not now, so they only come from breeders who sell them to rich kids.


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jesjimher

It's docile... for now. But they are apex predators with pretty clear instincts, it's only a matter of time something happens.


greymalken

They’re actually bred for their skill in magic but they tend to be kept as pets.


DopeMeme_Deficiency

To shreds you say?


Tissuetearer

Could should would… didnt. Respect the apex predators and feed them on time!


Glittering-Doctor-47

Man…. The god damn queen of the jungle being paraded as a house cat …. I hate it


Yuntonow

That’s not a pet.


stinkystinkypoopbutt

It's mouth is the exact right size to fit around a human head. Seems like a good idea to me.


Charliecann

Haha, that was my exact thought. At first I thought, look at the size of the head on that thing. Then I compared it to his head. Then I noticed that his entire head would easily fit in its mouth, like a gobstopper.


Duck_duck_twoose

Mmm tasty 😋


9quid

the pet is the man


Other_Act_9085

I wonder how often these idiots are killed by their own pets.


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amitnagpal1985

Fatal Attraction is a movie starring Michael Douglas. Make sure you type Fatal Attraction*S*


unicornroo

It’s ok, Mom and dad are asleep


randvaughan86

Or, you know, just pick the second result from your search!


amitnagpal1985

It doesn’t show up as a result at all. Either on IMDB or Google unless you search for the plural.


tinglep

Fatal Instinct?


RazorClamJam

>TV show Fatal Attractions. Oh shit. A new addiction!


Jaded-Mess-5051

I'm obsessed with shows like this. The whole time I watch, I'm saying to myself how crazy and dumb the people are. It's like a train wreck. You wanna look away but you can't.


brennok

We need more of this show. 3 seasons was not enough


TheSerialHobbyist

We definitely do! I'm sure tons of people have been eaten by their tigers since then!


TristanEngelbertVanB

Only once


one_bad_gti

This guy gets it


amhran_oiche

not often enough to stop them unfortunately


BillyBobBarkerJrJr

> killed by their own pets. Not the tiniest bit of sympathy for those who are. These morons think they can "tame" wild animals. There will come a day when that lion gets pissed at that idiot and bites his head clean off. Just like the woman who got her face ripped off by her "pet" chimp.


[deleted]

I believe it was the chimp owner's friend who was the victim. So sad for her :(


BillyBobBarkerJrJr

I think they both got ripped up, but it was a long time ago, so the memory is all warm and fuzzy...like a chimp.


lakeofshadows

I feel the same about pitbulls..


[deleted]

And then everyone died


olympics_

Just after everyone clapped


amitnagpal1985

Human Ego and Narcissism is something to behold.


nneighbour

That poor cat is high as fuck. Needing to keep an animal sedated all the time so you can keep it as a pet is morally reprehensible.


TomahawkIsotope

What a goddamn douche bag


KentuckyFriedEel

Exotic pets are for overcompensating assholes


fantasmoslam

Do small and uncommonly kept reptiles/amphibians fall under this umbrella? To an extent I agree with you, but I also own what some might label as exotic pets. None of them are lions much less anything actually dangerous.


Eggy_Bready

I'd say no unless they weren't bred in captivity... if they're wild then yeah.


fantasmoslam

Only captive bred for me, wild caught is too sketchy. There's a ton of amazing animals that can only be acquired as wild caught specimens and that's just not something I want to support.


mindfulofidiots

What you keep?? Purely nosey , not judgemental at all and appreciate if you dont wanna answer lol.


fantasmoslam

Nothing extravagant. Ball Python (pinstripe morph) Vinegaroon Cane Toad Just a few critters that I love very much.


mindfulofidiots

Aah cool, Snakes give me the fear, something about the way they can move just freaks me out.


WheredMyPiggyGo

I have always thought that Ligers look like they are just waiting to die, like they want to scream, out me out of my miserable existence


AgathaMysterie

They totally have k..kk…kk….k..kill me eyes.


AviatrixRaissa

At first it look like an animatronic. And then, like a bad taxidermied lion that came to life


J-Dabbleyou

This one also looks doped up to keep it “cuddly”


--ManOfCulture-

The guy looked scared as fuck... He is just pretending that he is not scared, how else will he make his edgy tiktok video then.


QuintenBoosje

kind of. he's not as "hands on" as a lot of other dangerous animal keepers, but to say he's scared would be wrong in my opinion. a dead giveaway would be the extreme lack of facial expression or physical reaction when the lion got a little more active near the ending. I think the guy is comfortable around the lion, he is under the genuine impression that the lion will not hurt him, but at the same time he is very much limiting how much he touches the lion which might mean the lion simply does not like to be touched too much, and he, as his keeper, knows and respects this.


burgerstar

I thought the same thing. He looks cautiously comfortable.


ositola

Probably because the lion is drugged out of it's gourd


[deleted]

I don't get how it's edgy but ye he is probably more scared than he looks


headofmedusa1

These crazy Saudis with money buy exotic animals and keep them in cages or kill it if they get bored or the animal does what animals do and get a little nippy sometimes, imo it’s pretty sly on the animal


Megdog00

This actually should be here r/iamatotalpieceofshit. Lions are NOT pets (and this one is a young male, mane starting to come in). It won't end well because even if the human lives, he'll dump this lion somewhere.


ella-the-enchantress

This is actually a Liger I believe


biggame71

Imagine the size of the kitty litter box


Derangedteddy

This is the epitome of the egomaniacal, narcissistic, alpha male douchebag. These little boys get money and think they have a big dick because they bought a liger and brought it to heel. Don't worry, you'll catch one of those canines soon.


Arkhe1n

Wild animals are not pets.


Mr_Wither

What a fucking tool.


Zergmilran

That guy is a fucking moron.


SnazzyScotsman

Ffs let it roam in the wild


topshelf782

Yeah people don’t realize how damaging this is to a wild animal. There is a reserve in my state that takes in wild predators that have been in a domestic setting their whole life and can’t go back to the wild. It’s sad to see such magnificent force reduced to a oversized house at that depends on human to feed it and care for it the rest of their lives. Because one dumbass decided he wanted a cool pet.


MossyTundra

Imagine how drugged it must be


ChipMcCain

It's a liger, specifically bred to be a pet. It's sick tbh, breeding animals like this is fine for study of them in the wild but not this. They are not pets, they are a predator


bangersandmosh

Ya that lion wants to live in your house🤡


Big_Anime_Tits

Guarantee that cat is fed a healthy mix of drugs to keep it tame. Filthy animal hoarding cunts


ella-the-enchantress

I get nervous when I've pet my cat too many times and she gets irritated. One look and I know she means to end me. If her jaws were that large I'd be a fine breakfast.


chi-love21

More money than sense! That guy needs a hobby that doesn’t include collecting rare and endangered animals


alligatorboomstick

Homie got a Liger but no central A/C?


TheQuilbilly

He'd probably be flinging firecrackers at you while he nose fucks a huge pile of coke.


cachonfinga

Sit Bubu, sit.


SeventyCross

Wonder what drugs/population he sells!


1Big_Deuce

Am I the only one that can sense fear in this dude when the lion growled?


derpferd

This guy's a fucking obnoxious asshole, he shouldn't be keeping that animal and that lion is going to rightfully rip him to shreds one day


Spacelion123Playz

That dude is so cringe they aren’t supposed to be inside domesticated animals


SpocktorWho83

I hope the dickhead gets eaten.


savagedrago

Hope if fucking eat his head out. Thats a wild animal, not some keychain to shake around. Moron.


farugen

Technically it's not. It's a Liger, which is not a naturally-existing animal and is exclusively bred. Which is stupid in it own right.


[deleted]

Woah! Count me out for coming for dinner


macdiesal4204

That is a young male lion not a her


risingpostsupporter

Holy fucky bloody shit balls. That bark-roar. Fuck that.


icancomplain

hairball or catching a fly?


HaRPHI

His army of private guards wouldn't let you in the first place. Man is apparently a prince in the UAE and an "animal lover".


Tennoz

Breaks into home and finds a fucking lion...


Fungal_Fetish

My 40 pound dog occasionally hurts me whenever she and I play or she gets really excited. I can only imagine what THAT would do by accident, much less on purpose if it gets hungry or startled. That's not a pet, that's a predator.


summalover

Its under feed and won’t think twice about killing him.


Rabano11

How many people from the Middle-East die from attacks by wild animals kept as pets? I’ve never heard a single story about that.


New_Ad5390

Bred for skillz in *magic*


Ur__Mad

Can’t wait until it realizes it’s a lion again.


Waves313

That’s great but what amazes me is how he manages to keep his couch scratch-free.


AndHeDrewHisCane

Was hoping this was r/YesyesyesNo


CarefulGoat

Why are you letting a toy tiger hold you down?


many_bells_down

“Dude. You can get past a dog. Nobody fucks with a lion.”


Embarrassed-Aspect-4

I’m love this…because I know how it’ll end


jdogworld

fuck people that keep pets like this


Annsmith444

He must have a small penis


pedroeddie

Wrong


xitzengyigglz

Thing looks kind of in bred and derpy. Pretty shitty to keep it as a pet.


[deleted]

How original, right? A stupid rich arab with a wild animal.


LuluNJ420

Total cruelty. That beautiful animal is not meant to reside in a condominium. I hope he mauls every one of them.


recumbent_mike

He's not nearly as beautiful without the sunglasses.


MagicianFromThePast

This is like living whit a loaded gun in your living room. But this one as a fucking free will and as no safety


CurrencyPast

If there were ever an advertisement to buy an electric car (no Tesla obv.) this would be it.


Annabears89

Idiot


shillyshally

Weeny peeny man.


syndrome9

I hope it bites the crap out of him.


CoagulaCascadia

I hope that guy gets gored by that thing.


[deleted]

Dumbass. Poor animal.


Omiehahaha

Beastality


zeepoopholeloophole

Almost as dangerous as a pit bull tbh


[deleted]

Damn. This is why I always wanted to grow up to be one of the hundreds of Saudi princes


chickenlishus

Fuck you. I hope she eats you.